Poetry Association Official Chat! Hawthorne

[Vulgar]

Welcome.

[Inno]

The revolution will be streamed live.

[El Muffin]

If I didn't absolutely adore vulgar I'd sign in n have opening lines like

Ohhhhh my balls.


My bad

[Destroyer]

this is a topical league, right?
or are we legit writing poetry?
I'm cool either way

[Inno]

Its both des. Its both

[Razah]

Is it?

Isn't that the point of the other league?

Anddd, wouldn't it be kind of hard to judge two verses when one was more "poetic" than another that rhymed a lot?

:/

[Inno]

Razah i was being sarcastic. Its poetry league you got me bro

[Witty]

Yeah, I'm still gonna rhyme tbh.

I'll tone it down tho.

[PancakeBrah]

ruff ryders anthem every morning @ 6

[Eŋg]

this is a topical league, right?
or are we legit writing poetry?
I'm cool either way

you're an idiot.

[Destroyer]

bitch u ain't shit
put me up against this faggot for poem vs poem week 1

[Destroyer]

and maybe yeah I just now read the rules and shit and noticed that there's already a topical league

that doesn't mean my poem game isn't fierce

[Eŋg]

a fifty year old balding white suburbanite talmbout weed that's 'fire' and ham-handedly suggesting poetry's a genre distinct from 'topicals' or battle verse wants to see me in a 'competitive poetry' battle?

i don't like writing competitively (because i suck lol!) and have a life. i bet you'll write something amazingly bland/generic though. i only said you were stupid, which you are. stay frosty.

[Destroyer]

I can't tell if that was negative or positive!
so, stay frosty also! or hot!
and ok!

[Eŋg]

satirical poetic prose tbh.

[Destroyer]

when you say stupid, you mean stupid fresh?

[Eŋg]

http://i.imgur.com/cBljAlt.gif

[Destroyer]

hahaha
peeped that last week. dude played creepy excellently

[Inno]

Good start. Even in poems theres beef

Let these feels push your pens fellAs

[fraze]

poetry to me is whatever you want it to be. whatever you make it. i think you can judge any two pieces side by side as long as there is some sort of rubric for comparison.

just need to decide what this league values in a piece. as long as everybody knows what to judge on, people can just write to their strengths and see what happens.

[Vulgar]

Go and check out RB's Poet's Society. It's going to be exactly like that, tbh.

[Inno]

Vulgar

Ill have topics tonight

[Split Eight]

Can we discuss the unfortunate closeness of the League's acronym (LGPA) to the Ladies Professional Golf Association?

[Witty]

How 'bout write a poem about it faggot.

<3

[Inno]

Can we discuss the unfortunate closeness of the League's acronym (LGPA) to the Ladies Professional Golf Association?

Lmao

[Vulgar]

Can we discuss the unfortunate closeness of the League's acronym (LGPA) to the Ladies Professional Golf Association?

Nothing wrong with lesbian grade point averages.

[Objective]

Vulgar: Is there only going to be topic/quote-rounds and not set form-rounds such as haikus/sonnettes/etc? I'm thinking a lot of shit that has to do with poetry gets lost in translation without some of these rounds as well, specially for those that don't even know what poetry is may end up just writing some topical shit without being challenged in poetry with strict rules and regulations. Take a look here for what I'm thinking: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/learning/glossary-terms?category=forms-and-types

[Inno]

Vulgar: Is there only going to be topic/quote-rounds and not set form-rounds such as haikus/sonnettes/etc? I'm thinking a lot of shit that has to do with poetry gets lost in translation without some of these rounds as well, specially for those that don't even know what poetry is may end up just writing some topical shit without being challenged in poetry with strict rules and regulations. Take a look here for what I'm thinking: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/learning/glossary-terms?category=forms-and-types

I was think the same thing. But i also think we should let this season pan out. Let the activity flow in. Then easily introduce these other formats into the weeks ahead. Ofcourse vulgar has the ultimate say.

[Vulgar]

Objective

Yeah I think we should definitely experiment with different forms of poetry and introduce some non-poetry writers to it as well. Or perhaps we could have a recurring themed week where you have the choice to use whichever format you choose off of that specific page, or other similar pages with a wide variety.

Good idea.

Let's give it a try in a couple of weeks, as Innovator said.

[ribbit]

Im not completely positive I know what my poetry should look like but I'll try to write depending on all the criteria and whatever barricades the league defends.. I'm just going to try to enhance my ability as a writer on netcees

[Inno]

Im not completely positive I know what my poetry should look like but I'll try to write depending on all the criteria and whatever barricades the league defends.. I'm just going to try to enhance my ability as a writer on netcees

There is no set criteria as to how to how to write poetry.
Or atleast not im this league. Write how you see fit.

[ribbit]

Cheers when does next week start

[ribbit]

Forget it I just read the rules /laziness

I'll definitely be here for next week

[Inno]

Good to here feel free to vote

[ribbit]

Cool bro I'll get to that like a dolphin with crazy fiveforty flips

[ribbit]

Just realized that there's a three way... Depending on battlers would u like to sub me in for this week and I'll drop something for this week up to u guys

[Vulgar]

Just realized that there's a three way... Depending on battlers would u like to sub me in for this week and I'll drop something for this week up to u guys

Okay, I can do that. I'll plug you a battle now.

Thanks.

[ribbit]

Cheers

[Inno]

I lik th swift movement

[Vulgar]

Cheers.

ribbit

No line limit.

[Witty]

Vulgar wouldn't it be better to add another battle and therefore do away with the need for two three way battles....or is there a reason I'm missing that means it can't be done?

[Inno]

Witty finna no show smh

[Witty]

No Sir, I can't guarantee it will be top quality, but I will show.

[Vulgar]

Witty, I was gonna do that until ribbit checked in faster than expected.

[Inno]

Witty Objective fraze ribbit Destroyer Mr. J Dr Dog


Matches are tomorrow, just a quick reminder fellas

[Witty]

I'm on it already :)

[Inno]

The fox is wise beyond his tail length

[Split Eight]

Think I'm posting tonight

[ribbit]

My bad for checking in so quickly regardless will b dropping soon as I can

[Inno]

Sn00p forgot to mention you

Man poems due tonight

[Objective]

Appreciate the mention even though this time around I remembered it.

[fraze]

Excited about this league.

Just dropped Objective

[Objective]

Word, I just peeped it and repped you for it. Dope shit fraze.

[Inno]

Good shit peeps

I think ama post later tonight

[Vulgar]

Good shit folks. Agreed.

[Destroyer]

had a sudden burst of creativity Innovator
you can still have the ext if you need it of course

[Inno]

Destroyer

Posted

Thanks for showing bro

[Destroyer]

yup
now we'll see if we get any votes...

[Inno]

Lol hopefuly its just a mole to climb

[Split Eight]

Destroyer dope piece man

[Split Eight]

Vulgar want assistance on the mag? Gonna be writing the OM one as well, got my adderall, caffeinated beverages, whiskey & beer all ready

[Inno]

Dr Dog

I was going to work on that this sunday

Pm me for the details my nigga

[Objective]

I talked to Vulgar about writing some too. I did start on something which I got too high to finish. If you need any help or any content give me a shout and I'll see what I can do as well Innovator. Maybe I can drop by with something next week or something if Dr Dog got some shit this time around as to not make the mag too long or whatever.

[Witty]

I posted.

It is terrible, it sucks donkey dick, and it was a very quick key, but I posted nonetheless.

If I get any votes in that battle you should all be killed tbh.

props @dr. dog and Vulgar - you both had great poems, i'm sorry mine was not so great.

[Inno]

Someone left the liquor cabinet open

Sn00p Mr. J you folk fittin to post?

[Objective]

Magstuff sent Innovator.

[Inno]

Nice

[Split Eight]

Magstuff sent Innovator.

Dope my dude

[Objective]

No probs, just hope you/people will enjoy the read though, hah. If not then at least I gave it a try.

[Sn00p]

i know i'm hella late ribbit, so u definitely take the ns win if u want. i'd understand

[ribbit]

Ugh I hate being like that but its cool u willing to back out

[Inno]

Voting tomorrow. Good turn out folk.

Off to the pool!!!

[ribbit]

Aye I'll have my votes tomorrow as well

[Inno]

Lets go bitches!!!

[Vulgar]

Cool stuff!

http://discovermagazine.com/galleries/2015/march/underwater-art

[Witty]

Actually disgusted with myself for posting that poem, nearly considering just taking the loss and letting split and vulg duke it out, I want to erase that piece from my memory lol.

Would this be acceptable Vulgar Innovator? I hate knowing it's up there and is not anywhere near the level I expect from myself...it's like an itch I can't scratch.

Autism sucks.

I'll still vote tho.

Edit: my bad im an ass

Peeps already dropped votes mang.

But uhmm your piece was dope da fuck you talking aboutlol

[Inno]

Vulgar can probably do that for you

[ribbit]

That verse wasn't that bad just needed a concept here and there I wouldn't worry bout it witt

[ribbit]

Thot snoop backed out of our battle becuz he was too late..not throw in a tantrum just thought he gave me the win

[Inno]

lol didn't you say you didnt want to win like that?

[ribbit]

Just thot he said it'd be alrite to take win becuz he was so late...just a thot

[Inno]

Word.

The battles stayed open in the spirit of competition

Hope you understand

[ribbit]

Aye its okay I guess I should have been clearer in my post

[sral]

lmao I hit up a few matches with votes to try and help out

Witty I thought your verse was good bro

I know nothing about poetry but I enjoyed the read lol

[Inno]

sraL


Thanks for voting brah

Sign up

[Witty]

The writing, I think, was good enough...but I hate it mainly because there was so much more I could have done with the concept, but didn't and took the easy route.

I guess sometimes the writer is the only person who thinks it sucks cuz they know what it could have been.

[Objective]

fraze got this
it's just better
some of the voting in this league is just like what?
like punctuation does not mean shit
some dude told me my punctuation was lacking
like seriously? aren't we writing poems here?
anyway, fraze showed a mastery of the language and weaved an intricate template of rhyme and symbolism.
I don't understand where objective got rain out of the picture, but hey

v/fraze

A bit salty, are we? Yes, I told you I thought your punctuation was wack, I've told others as well. It's like reading an extremely long sentence. This isn't the fucking Ulysses man. If that was your intention it's not for me, sorry. I like the language and grammar etc. in poetry to be well thought out, refined and polished. Yes, I lack in that department as well but I'd rather someone point it out and say it if they feel it detracts from the piece. I don't leave things be if I think it draws away the pleasure for me when I'm reading something. Also; there's things about the voting against my verse as well I feel people are missing out on, or I don't feel is right but it is right to them and that's what counts. If you don't like that I don't vote like everyone else and put what I find important highly when I place it that is YOUR problem, there's no reason to cry about it and give a half assed vote back in return as if it's the worst thing that could ever happen in your life. But it's whatevz, I don't care and as far as I'm concerned your vote counts, do your thing but I'd recommend you to leave emotions out of it and if you got a problem with something (like my vote) take it up with me in a PM, thread or in the chat instead of angle shooting in a vote like that.

And if you don't understand where I got ''rain'' from then maybe you should stick to the NBL. That said; if you're actually curious I can tell you in a PM when next round starts.

[Destroyer]

singing in the rain? it was in the movie, but was it in the picture?
nah

I'm signed out anyway bro
enjoy reading your punctuated and grammatically correct shit

[Split Eight]

damn, why'd the battles close early? Vulgar

[Objective]

singing in the rain? it was in the movie, but was it in the picture?
nah

I wasn't referencing the movie, book, title or anything at all. It has nothing to do with A Clockwork Orange as I only went by the character on the cover, dope af movie tho'. I thought about it as ''rainy days'', bad weather is often associated with a depressive mood so that's what I played off of (clichéd to death or not) and the main character losing face and feeling out of it (hence where the topic comes in and who I had in mind while writing it) and I also end it with the guy shooting off half his face seeing the blast go off which was what I trying to connect with the picture. You don't necessarily die from it but I thought fuck it and let it be. I was more hooked on the ''sunshine'' as a simile for the blast he saw getting a millisecond of sense that things are finally getting better before he died or whatever when I wrote it.

Keep in mind I was high af when I wrote it so I probably made a lot of connections that doesn't make as much sense sober, or to anyone at all, hah, but there's thought behind it. I'm not satisfied by the piece and I didn't have time to do the ''write high, edit sober''-thing either but that's my explanation.

As far as things I felt what people missed out on was that the middle stanza got a ABCDDCBA rhymescheme but I kind of expected that. Thanks for giving me an opportunity to put it to light, I seldom get to do that with what I write.

[Vulgar]

damn, why'd the battles close early? Vulgar

So next week can start.

[Inno]

Vulgar

What do you think about an annotation thread?

[Vulgar]

Sounds cool, but what is it?

[Inno]

Sounds cool, but what is it?

Basically a thread peeps can come in to and explain there poems.

But i guess its more entertaining other wise lol

[Split Eight]

it's better known by its colloquial name, "The Weekly Butthurt", where writers of all ages but one specific mental age can congregate to defend their poems integrity against the incessant assault set upon them by their own viciously self-serving mediocrity

[Inno]

Yes if you wanna get technical lol

[Split Eight]

Lmao I'm just pulling your leg man Innovator

[Inno]

Yo let whos posting the mag? Just so i know lol

[Split Eight]

You or Vulgar can post, send me what your have and I'll send you whatever I can to help (most of the things in that Pm)

[fraze]

I wasn't referencing the movie, book, title or anything at all. It has nothing to do with A Clockwork Orange as I only went by the character on the cover, dope af movie tho'. I thought about it as ''rainy days'', bad weather is often associated with a depressive mood so that's what I played off of (clichéd to death or not) and the main character losing face and feeling out of it (hence where the topic comes in and who I had in mind while writing it) and I also end it with the guy shooting off half his face seeing the blast go off which was what I trying to connect with the picture. You don't necessarily die from it but I thought fuck it and let it be. I was more hooked on the ''sunshine'' as a simile for the blast he saw getting a millisecond of sense that things are finally getting better before he died or whatever when I wrote it.

Keep in mind I was high af when I wrote it so I probably made a lot of connections that doesn't make as much sense sober, or to anyone at all, hah, but there's thought behind it. I'm not satisfied by the piece and I didn't have time to do the ''write high, edit sober''-thing either but that's my explanation.

As far as things I felt what people missed out on was that the middle stanza got a ABCDDCBA rhymescheme but I kind of expected that. Thanks for giving me an opportunity to put it to light, I seldom get to do that with what I write.

nice explanation. I was finding new readings every time I read your piece. it was poetically dense even tho it was a shorter verse. I need to do more playing with diff rhyme schemes.

[Destroyer]

I'm gonna expound on this at a later date. Consider this a first installment.
I'll take the L with a smile. But let's be honest with each other. This is some remedial shit happening here in this league. I'll sign back in if voting gets better and you topical guys stop sucking each other off in each thread. The picture that Inno and I used was of a child playing a trumpet, with another child playing a trumpet into his ear and a bird flying around behind him. From that, Inno crafts a nice piece about a juke joint. And then I have people telling me I didn't utilize the picture well enough? There's two fucking children in the picture and he wrote about cigar smoke and whiskey and people are telling me I didn't use the fucking picture properly? I got Objective telling me that my fucking punctuation is not good enough, like I even use punctuation on the regular. Step your pen game up gentlemen, and stop voting for names because it's not a good look for the poetry league.

[Split Eight]

I got Objective telling me that my fucking punctuation is not good enough, like I even use punctuation on the regular

gone

sorry to lose you for now Des. I liked your poem

[Objective]

Destroyer: I could give less of a fuck whether I voted for you or Innovator. I do not plan on changing my ways of voting so it suits you or anyone else unless there is a valid reason to do so, at the moment I don't see it. The voting and criteria in a poetry league shouldn't be the same as in a topical or any other battle and I'm going to continue to put certain things higher than others (such as punctuation in this particular league whereas I could give less of a fuck in a topical and even non-existent in a battle) and put shit to light if I think there's places the piece could be improved.

[Split Eight]

AND THUS

the first Elements subject shall be: punctuation
@Vugar Innovator : working on my part for the mag now

[Vulgar]

lol

Destroyer

Taking an L in the poetry league is not really that bad at all. The "mood" of wins and losses over at RB's poet's society was not anything serious. I guess that'll catch on eventually, with time here.

Innovator That thread concept is a good idea, but yes, less entertainin'

Intro & Power Ranks will be written and sent by today.

[Witty]

I'm gonna expound on this at a later date. Consider this a first installment.
I'll take the L with a smile. But let's be honest with each other. This is some remedial shit happening here in this league. I'll sign back in if voting gets better and you topical guys stop sucking each other off in each thread. The picture that Inno and I used was of a child playing a trumpet, with another child playing a trumpet into his ear and a bird flying around behind him. From that, Inno crafts a nice piece about a juke joint. And then I have people telling me I didn't utilize the picture well enough? There's two fucking children in the picture and he wrote about cigar smoke and whiskey and people are telling me I didn't use the fucking picture properly? I got Objective telling me that my fucking punctuation is not good enough, like I even use punctuation on the regular. Step your pen game up gentlemen, and stop voting for names because it's not a good look for the poetry league.

The topic is just used for inspiration, it does not have to be followed exactly, though it can be if you choose to do so.

As long as something in the piece shows it was inspired by the given topic, you did your job.

I'm pretty sure I said you followed the topic well tho, SO YOU AIN'T TALM BOUT ME RIGHT???

[fraze]

Nah he was talking about me i think. I honestly could have went either way with my vote, it was close. I originally was going to vote Destroyer because he had a strong technical piece imo. But after a couple rereads my opinion changed bc Innovator used a lot of imagery that made certain scenes stick in my mind more. I just enjoyed it more.

poetry battles are hard to judge. there aren't really established criteria for good and bad so it comes down to feeling a lot of time. you had a dope piece but more people liked the other dude so you lost. don't have an ego about it. you're still a dope writer but we all catch ls sometimes.

[Witty]

I knew an L was coming my way before I even hit submit.

I don't catch many (when I show) so those I do catch, I take like a gent.

Also, I lost to two of the best poetic type guys on this site, so I'M GOOD.

[Objective]

nice explanation. I was finding new readings every time I read your piece. it was poetically dense even tho it was a shorter verse. I need to do more playing with diff rhyme schemes.

Just noticed this now, thanks man. Word, I feel like fucking around with ALL kinds of structures and rhymeschemes is perfect for a league like this, the creative freedom and challenges it gives the writers is what I'm most excited to see tbh.

[Hush]

A bit salty, are we? Yes, I told you I thought your punctuation was wack, I've told others as well. It's like reading an extremely long sentence. This isn't the fucking Ulysses man. If that was your intention it's not for me, sorry. I like the language and grammar etc. in poetry to be well thought out, refined and polished. Yes, I lack in that department as well but I'd rather someone point it out and say it if they feel it detracts from the piece. I don't leave things be if I think it draws away the pleasure for me when I'm reading something. Also; there's things about the voting against my verse as well I feel people are missing out on, or I don't feel is right but it is right to them and that's what counts. If you don't like that I don't vote like everyone else and put what I find important highly when I place it that is YOUR problem, there's no reason to cry about it and give a half assed vote back in return as if it's the worst thing that could ever happen in your life. But it's whatevz, I don't care and as far as I'm concerned your vote counts, do your thing but I'd recommend you to leave emotions out of it and if you got a problem with something (like my vote) take it up with me in a PM, thread or in the chat instead of angle shooting in a vote like that.

And if you don't understand where I got ''rain'' from then maybe you should stick to the NBL. That said; if you're actually curious I can tell you in a PM when next round starts.


too long didnt read

if this pretentious faggotry is what is to be expected here sign me out off the rip

[Objective]

too long didnt read

It wasn't aimed at you either. Seriously though, if someone is having an issue with difference in personality OR way of looking at things shit's laughable. If I am wrong in anything, my vote is wack or doesn't count (explain it if it was) I am willing to change my ways and say that I'm at fault and apologize if I fucked up. But as of now I'm having a hard to time to see how I'm in the wrong. Maybe I'm just blind, and if I am; enlighten me.

[Split Eight]

Objective: it's gonna be okay. Des gonna Des

too long didnt read

if this pretentious faggotry is what is to be expected here sign me out off the rip
you in my dude?

[Split Eight]

It wasn't aimed at you either. Seriously though, if someone is having an issue with difference in personality OR way of looking at things shit's laughable. If I am wrong in anything, my vote is wack or doesn't count (explain it if it was) I am willing to change my ways and say that I'm at fault and apologize if I fucked up. But as of now I'm having a hard to time to see how I'm in the wrong. Maybe I'm just blind, and if I am; enlighten me.

I don't think Destroyer was calling you out. He was saying that it seemed suspect that he wrote about the picture, directly, and even then people justified their vote by saying he didn't use the picture well enough- when Innovator didn't follow the picture as much to a T

Then he quoted punctuation as another ridiculous thing to be voted against for (which in this case I'd agree it shouldn't be a determining factor in this particular battle, but you might've just been providing feedback)

Basically he's saying people aren't justifying votes sufficiently and obviously as someone who doesn't compete in topicals, it's frustrating to not be told the details of why you caught a loss, because how else can you get better?

You just got caught in the crossfire

[Objective]

Aaah, word Dr Dog, thanks for clearing it up. Ye, thought Hush was calling me out, hah. And I definitely do not let punctuation be a determining factor unless the battle is so incredibly close I have to nitpick on the smallest of things just to find something where someone might have an edge over the other. In this case it was just feedback and sort of a heads up that it might cost someone ''points'' in the future from me in situations like that. I try to let my votes be as to the point and harsh as possible because nowadays a lot of people have reached a certain level the nitpicking is almost (or close to) the only things left they can improve on that I can add some feedback on as I know my level isn't up to par compared to a lot of these cats in other areas. I also do it for myself as I'm not a native speaker/writer in the English language, so in order to get better myself it helps to correct and be a bitch to others, hah.

[Witty]

Yo but an annotation thread is a good idea imo, put it up after battles are closed, give people a chance to explain what they meant to communicate with their piece, what they felt people looked over, answer questions from voters, etc.

[Clutbuck]

lmao I got love for Objective he's the Norwegian brethren but I legit LOL'd at Destroyers post

[Inno]

I'm gonna expound on this at a later date. Consider this a first installment.
I'll take the L with a smile. But let's be honest with each other. This is some remedial shit happening here in this league. I'll sign back in if voting gets better and you topical guys stop sucking each other off in each thread. The picture that Inno and I used was of a child playing a trumpet, with another child playing a trumpet into his ear and a bird flying around behind him. From that, Inno crafts a nice piece about a juke joint. And then I have people telling me I didn't utilize the picture well enough? There's two fucking children in the picture and he wrote about cigar smoke and whiskey and people are telling me I didn't use the fucking picture properly? I got Objective telling me that my fucking punctuation is not good enough, like I even use punctuation on the regular. Step your pen game up gentlemen, and stop voting for names because it's not a good look for the poetry league.


But des i love you but.

That shole voting for a name this is inaccurate simply because you are more known here on NC than i am. Shit you are a certified NCG. I dont think im there yet. So that argument goes right out the window. Now topical guys sucking each other off. Lol come on guy thats a bit of a stretch.

Im gonna be completely honest with you i thought i was losing that. You came strong and dropped some dope shit. This though, this is unbecoming of you des.

Edit.

Also we need a voting criteria here Dr Dog Vulgar

maybe add that in the mag

Des has good points like the grammar issue but objective also has good points.

Poetry is subjective people. Not every will vote the same and its ok.

Look at hushes vote for example

what other voted like and voted for me for, he didnt

Does that make his vote wrong? Ofcourse not its his opinion lol

Abc's fellas

[Clutbuck]

Fucking GONE @ "The Weekly Butthurt" though ahahahahahahahha

[Inno]

i tell you what the vibe here is kicking, i like it

[Destroyer]

Clearly I need to let Dr Dog just explain what I'm thinking from now on as he does it much more eloquently than I did. Innovator, ur cool, and I have no ill will toward you. The voting for the name thing wasn't referring to our battle, it was just a feeling I got looking at some of the other pieces. Bottom line though, judging poetry is entirely objective, so I have no real reason to get upset other than the fact that I thought my piece was more powerful, but hey, it's just a poem battle. I'll probably sign in before next week battles go up anyway, I'm known to get upset, cry, run away for like a day and then return.
I think this league shows promise, so apologies to anyone I offended.

[Inno]

Destroyer

If your still in let vulgar know cuz i think hes posting new battles tonight

[Vulgar]

Clearly I need to let Dr Dog just explain what I'm thinking from now on as he does it much more eloquently than I did. Innovator, ur cool, and I have no ill will toward you. The voting for the name thing wasn't referring to our battle, it was just a feeling I got looking at some of the other pieces. Bottom line though, judging poetry is entirely objective, so I have no real reason to get upset other than the fact that I thought my piece was more powerful, but hey, it's just a poem battle. I'll probably sign in before next week battles go up anyway, I'm known to get upset, cry, run away for like a day and then return.
I think this league shows promise, so apologies to anyone I offended.

Take a week off.

YOU'LL BE INSTITUTIONALIZED BEFORE IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE!

jk

[Destroyer]

they put me in an institution
said it was the only solution

[Vulgar]

I'll put you in this week
may it bring the victory you seek

[Inno]

lol

[Vulgar]

Week II is up. Your topic was assigned from the topic thread which is stickied, courtesy of Inno.

Match ups:

Dr Dog (1-0) vs. Zen (0-0)
Innovator (1-0) vs. fraze (0-0)
Vulgar (0-1) vs. ribbit (0-1)
Witty (0-1) vs. Objective (0-1)
UnbornBuddha (0-0) vs. Razah (0-0)
Hush (0-0) vs. Destroyer (0-1)

[Inno]

I hope you niggas like the topics

[Vulgar]

I hope you niggas like the topics

http://www.picgifs.com/clip-art/cartoons/snoopy/clip-art-snoopy-124159.jpg

[Split Eight]

Glad that worked out smoothly bros

Vulgar Innovator

Just got back from picking my girl up from Logan so I'm back in the middle of doing work for the magazine. Will send when I'm done

Sharp I didn't forget the NBL mag feature either :)

[Split Eight]

when you hit the backspace button and you havent saved your work for like 10 minutes

-_-

[ribbit]

One of those gaping mouth moments

[Objective]

when you hit the backspace button and you havent saved your work for like 10 minutes

-_-

Then you control+z that shit.

[Split Eight]

Then you control+z that shit.

Yea for some reason the stuff in the text box when I pressed back was from when I had last clicked "Preview Post" and not the most recent edit in the text box itself.

[Objective]

Yea for some reason the stuff in the text box when I pressed back was from when I had last clicked "Preview Post" and not the most recent edit in the text box itself.

Not sure I get how you work with this. Do you write the mag in the text box and not in a text document? Or did this happen when you compiled work from others and about to finish it up? I tend to work with stuff like that in a text document in case something happens like the electricity goes out, PC overheats/shuts off or any other thing you can't control.

[Split Eight]

Not sure I get how you work with this. Do you write the mag in the text box and not in a text document? Or did this happen when you compiled work from others and about to finish it up? I tend to work with stuff like that in a text document in case something happens like the electricity goes out, PC overheats/shuts off or any other thing you can't control.

I click 'Post New Thread' and then do all the writing, formatting as I write

Idk vbulletin code shit by heart so I gotta use the editor on a site

Plus you can click 'preview' and see how it looks so far

[Inno]

Hey Dr Dog i dont see the mod lounge lol

[Objective]

I click 'Post New Thread' and then do all the writing, formatting as I write

Idk vbulletin code shit by heart so I gotta use the editor on a site

Plus you can click 'preview' and see how it looks so far

Word, I can see that. But most of the shit you can do in a text document you can do in a vbulletin code such as font size etc. To get a general view of how it'll look just use bold/underline/italic shit on the text/titles etc., center everything and whatnot as a sketch. It'll give you a great general view of how it'll look.
You can also create a folder with docs to each category in the mag so you'll have even better overview when writing on it and who has submitted what. It sounds like a lot unnecessary work but it isn't as it goes really fast after the second or third time. As far as it goes to images/videos I just center the text and place the link. Once you put everything on NC's all you have to do is highlight the text, fix the bold shit and sizes which is done in a minute along with the URL's without having to be afraid of fucking shit up or have to do everything over if something should happen to the site, browser or the thread get lost in a different way. You can also fuck around a lot more with hotkeys and other shit that'll make writing articles or whatever for the mag faster and more efficient.

That's how I do it at least but people got different ways of doing things that works the best and is the most effective to them so do what you feel is best. Just thought I'd put it out there just in case its of help to you or anyone.

[Inno]

Q&A for the mag


who wants to answer some Q's
fraze Objective Destroyer ribbit Dr Dog Vulgar Witty
@urbanbuddha Razah

[Objective]

Sure, hit me up Innovator. Can't answer straight away though.

[Inno]

no worries its not alot of questions

[Zen]

no worries its not alot of questions

First, you don't give me a shoutout. Then you don't feed my poem in the Open Mic, and now you skip over me when it comes to the Q&A?

Damn, bro...

[Inno]

First, you don't give me a shoutout. Then you don't feed my poem in the Open Mic, and now you skip over me when it comes to the Q&A?

Damn, bro...

lol my bad man youve gone so loong

i got you tho

[Witty]

Innovator I can answer some too if u still need me,

[Witty]

Got you in an hour.

Anything else needed for the mag Innovator?

Codiene makes me feel warm, it drives me and helps me forget that I'm depressed as fuck, and when I forget that, I can do anything.

It also makes me honest to the point of discomfort for the person I am speaking to.

[Razah]

I just noticed there wasn't a sign outs thread.

Not that I'm signing out, buttt, are you forcing everybody to stay in the league? Lol

[Inno]

Got you in an hour.

Anything else needed for the mag Innovator?

Codiene makes me feel warm, it drives me and helps me forget that I'm depressed as fuck, and when I forget that, I can do anything.

It also makes me honest to the point of discomfort for the person I am speaking to.

Nah we good lol thanks bro. Takevyour drugs in piece

[Inno]

I just noticed there wasn't a sign outs thread.

Not that I'm signing out, buttt, are you forcing everybody to stay in the league? Lol

Will you atleast show this week?

[Witty]

DONE.

[Witty]

I just noticed there wasn't a sign outs thread.

Not that I'm signing out, buttt, are you forcing everybody to stay in the league? Lol

Just post in here, mention Vulgar or Inno and let them know you want out.

[Inno]

Dr Dog Witty


thanks for participating.

much love to you fucks.

now as i have nothing left to do..


im getting high.

[Witty]

Any time my friend, I enjoyed questions you asked.

Lol as for getting high, I normally don't smoke weed til i'm finished work, but on friday i was like 'fuck it' got high as fuck and ended up being THIS close to chopping my hand off with an electric saw, so never doing that again lol

Enjoy bro.

[Inno]

Vulgar

if you dont mind im going to add Witty Objective Zen

in the Q&A as they sent me stuff after you posted...

hope you dnt mind

[Vulgar]

Not at all. I wish my power ranks wouldn't have gotten deleted. Not motivated enough to redo them :/

Next week I will. (or whenever there's a mag next, I don't think we should do them every week. We'll get burnt out.)

[Inno]

ofcourse not...fuck that shit i got three kids man i wish i had the energy Dr Dog has...that nigga worked on 2 mags and possibly a third lmao


but how many weeks is this league? 12? we could do 3 total mags if so

16? possible 4

1 now...another towards the middle...and the end of the season mag...which could be a bit bigger....

also a playoff mag...sorta like a preview to the playoffs...


i got ambitions for this league guys...

[Split Eight]

I'll make a mag every week

[Objective]

I'll make a mag every week

I'll be happy to help with anything and it seems others (like Witty?) are motivated to help as well.

[Witty]

Yessir.

[Split Eight]

Perfect

I can contribute one portion regularly, if other members can commit to that I mean I think a brief summary every week with a more in depth one every couple weeks is a good formula

[Inno]

Perfect

I can contribute one portion regularly, if other members can commit to that I mean I think a brief summary every week with a more in depth one every couple weeks is a good formula

Ok so your on board

Witty
Objective

You all states to work on weekly mag.

I saw @snoop wanted to add a feature and so does Zen

I will ofcourse help aswell.

So when do we start working on the next one lol?

[Razah]

Will you atleast show this week?

Yup.

[Inno]

Everyone forgot

[Objective]

I will ofcourse help aswell.

So when do we start working on the next one lol?

Important question, hah. When are mags usually up? How about starting with a deadline and go from there? I've never really helped with a mag like this before so I don't know how y'all usually do things.

[ribbit]

What's the deal with vulgar anyone know? Didn't expect him that noshow what with him being mod and all

[Inno]

ribbit battles are extended to tonight midnight.
Vulgar
Objective

We can do mags every 4 weeks. So next mag should be up in 2 weeks

[ribbit]

Cheers I hope vulgar knows this

[Vulgar]

Yes

[Split Eight]

Can I just write an abbreviated Reviews and Predictions every week and leave the full ones to you two?

Word that sounds dope.

Next mag going up after week 3 is done.

[Vulgar]

No doubt. Whatever's possible. No obligations.

[ribbit]

Lol welcome back vulgar

[Inno]

Can I just write an abbreviated Reviews and Predictions every week and leave the full ones to you two?

Word that sounds dope.

Next mag going up after week 3 is done.

I gotta get used to being a mod fuck me

[Split Eight]

I gotta get used to being a mod fuck me

Lmao

Can you see the mod lounge?

[Inno]

Dr Dog

Noope

[Vulgar]

Lol welcome back vulgar

Props,

posted,

you dog, you.

[ribbit]

Lol word to the pup master

Gl vulgar

[Split Eight]

The Midwest Tinder game is UNREAL bros

[Razah]

Can I just write an abbreviated Reviews and Predictions every week and leave the full ones to you two?

Word that sounds dope.

Next mag going up after week 3 is done.

Sounds like a good idea.

What's this whole, 1 mag a month thing??

:/

[Inno]

Sounds like a good idea.

What's this whole, 1 mag a month thing??

:/

What ever do u mean sir, would you like to help with said mag?

[Destroyer]

ribbit, no hate but you have like a third grade reading level
please don't vote on any of my battles anymore

[ribbit]

Lol just voted from who I thought won IMO don't take it yo heart maybe others will agree with u

[ribbit]

In my opinion that battle could have gone either way but fuck it if u want to be a sore winner just cuz one vote doesn't go your way especially when u both dropped the same similar shit...I hate cats like that when something doesn't go your way and I've been one of the few cats to get shit thrown in my face for years now whatever fuck it

[Destroyer]

yeah my bad man
I wasn't really upset at you
my wife was all drunk last night and I had to deal w/that and on top of it I didn't get any crazy drunk sex
that caused me to awake in a bad mood
no worries man keep doing you

[ribbit]

Lol be happy bro at least u got a wife lol ribbit camt even pull no bitches lol

[Split Eight]

ribbit, no hate but you have like a third grade reading level
please don't vote on any of my battles anymore

way gone

[ribbit]

Exsqueeze me?

[Hush]

Ribbit a real nigga
He know my poem had heart

[Inno]

Lmao ribbits is cool peeps yo

[ribbit]

Fecism...oh I know I'm dope biscuits

[fraze]

I think we should have a max line limit for this league. Poetry is about maximizing the content conveyed by your words. I think I line limit would encourage more editing and more creativity to express ideas in a constrained space.

Thought about this after looking at Hush vs. Destroyer. Both dropped good pieces in a short format. This might also be something that can distinguish the poetry league from the topical league where max lines is sort of the goal.

[ribbit]

Lol not to be bitch er nothing but doesn't voting end on Sunday whybare these battles still open ???

[Objective]

Sorry Witty. :(

[Inno]

Objective Witty Hush Destroyer

Hey fellas can we get some votes, i lnow husj already
Voted on one.

[Inno]

Lol not to be bitch er nothing but doesn't voting end on Sunday whybare these battles still open ???

Correct but some battles need more votes.

I thinl your battle is tied. Would you like a tie?


Edit:

Just saw frazez vote. Vulgar should close battle later today, hopefully peeps get there votes in

[Destroyer]

my bad on the lack of voting gentlemen
I will remedy next week

[Vulgar]

Lol not to be bitch er nothing but doesn't voting end on Sunday whybare these battles still open ???

This is an internet league, buddy. C'mon now.

fraze, this is a valid point. I don't see why a line limit would encourage or discourage conciseness though. For me, personally, a line limit is daunting because it interferes with my stream of thoughts. If there is no wall in the distance, I won't be worried about going beyond limitations/parameters. I'd rather poetry have ultimate freedom of expression/length/etc.

[Razah]

What ever do u mean sir, would you like to help with said mag?

I would love to, but I can't.

:/

[Razah]

This is an internet league, buddy. C'mon now.

fraze, this is a valid point. I don't see why a line limit would encourage or discourage conciseness though. For me, personally, a line limit is daunting because it interferes with my stream of thoughts. If there is no wall in the distance, I won't be worried about going beyond limitations/parameters. I'd rather poetry have ultimate freedom of expression/length/etc.

I feel you, but on the other hand, that shit can work against you.

For example, if someone posted a short verse, say, 8 bars, and that shit was done perfectly; it's a super solid well written verse, flawless.

Then, the other person post like 64 lines, unless that person is ass cheeks, you're bound to come up with enough material to kind of make it seem like that verse was better than the 8 bar verse.

Nahmean!?

[Inno]

I feel you, but on the other hand, that shit can work against you.

For example, if someone posted a short verse, say, 8 bars, and that shit was done perfectly; it's a super solid well written verse, flawless.

Then, the other person post like 64 lines, unless that person is ass cheeks, you're bound to come up with enough material to kind of make it seem like that verse was better than the 8 bar verse.

Nahmean!?


I feel you on this but tbh it go either way i mean you posted a short verse againts a long verse. Some peeps voted for you some didnt. All im saying theres really no reall way to know shich works better unless we try it.

plus i think we are holding off on the line limit because eventually in the coming weeks we will try to introduce different poetry styles ie HAIKUS, SONNETS and so on. Most of if not all of those styles have a strict format that needs to be follwed to even be considered a haiku or sonnet.

Think of these no limit weeks as a chance to go off. No restrictions.
Plus ive run poetry leagues with line limits and the arguement is always
Opposite of what we are discussing here.

So.....

[Razah]

Yeah, its one of those; Damned if you do, damned if you don't situations.

[Inno]

Word i dont see why we cant try it though.

Your input is noted and thank you for showing interest in the league.

Please fellas feel free to voice your opinion on anything about this league.

[Witty]

sraL I keyed that up in a few mins when I knew objective wasn't showing, thnx for the belief and the kick up the ass tho. I needed it.

[fraze]

Vulgar - I feel you on not wanted to have restrictions, but I think we need to have some sort of guideline that makes it easier to compare pieces. It's not really fair to compare pieces with dramatically different line lengths, and we already have a topical league for longer format drops.

Maybe we could try an opt-out line limit? If both writers agree, the restriction can be dropped, but it would be enforced by default. Line limits are a restriction but I think they would promote more creativity and selective word choice to be effective in fewer lines. I think this would also help with vote quality / consistency because it is easier to give detailed feed on shorter pieces.

[Vulgar]

Vulgar - I feel you on not wanted to have restrictions, but I think we need to have some sort of guideline that makes it easier to compare pieces. It's not really fair to compare pieces with dramatically different line lengths, and we already have a topical league for longer format drops.

Maybe we could try an opt-out line limit? If both writers agree, the restriction can be dropped, but it would be enforced by default. Line limits are a restriction but I think they would promote more creativity and selective word choice to be effective in fewer lines. I think this would also help with vote quality / consistency because it is easier to give detailed feed on shorter pieces.

Nice idea. Innovator

The 'both writers agree' clause can extend to pretty much anything. Negotiate your own restrictions and conditions on battles! I like it. General rules will remain the same though, but creating exceptions on an individual basis is legit.

[fraze]

Yeah I guess that can work. Agree on a line limit at check in. That's basically what they do in the NBL.

I still think it would be nice to have a recommended length (even if its a range) but this is a step in the right direction at least.

[Inno]

Line limit agreement before on check in sounds good to me

[sral]

sraL I keyed that up in a few mins when I knew objective wasn't showing, thnx for the belief and the kick up the ass tho. I needed it.

You're my boy. Show these faggots why WP were so reknowned. I'm like 15 years deep at this text shit and still write with that hunger like it's my first title shot...

I'm nothing if not consistent as fuck

[Witty]

You're my boy. Show these faggots why WP were so reknowned. I'm like 15 years deep at this text shit and still write with that hunger like it's my first title shot...

I'm nothing if not consistent as fuck

We forever run shit.

Except nothing but the highest quality from here on out.

[Inno]

I got much to say about this

[Inno]

Vulgar topic sent.

let me know if you need me to post it.

shits gonna be dope.

[Witty]

*expect.

[Vulgar]

Battles are up. Let me and Inno know what you think, peoples.

I think I'll start the contender's match/champ match at Week 5. This allows for records to grow a bit more. A championship adds more motivation to excel at this medium :) although I hope it will not be its undoing.

[Inno]

I say you give everyone a copy of what dreams may come.

Keeps its poetic

[Zen]

Eh, haikus? Yeah, count me out this week.

[Destroyer]

me and vulg ready for votes

[Inno]

Jesus lol

Edit:

Who the fuck is Gina

And im assuming its VAgina?

Lol

[sral]

some rap-royalty lame tbh

[Objective]

Yeah, its one of those; Damned if you do, damned if you don't situations.

I see your points clearly and somewhat agree with some of them but I'm not sure if I agree with you all the way through though. A 8 line perfect poem is better than a 64 line poem that got 48 perfect lines. Not to mention that hard work should be praised as well. A half assed 64 line poem takes more dedication than a half assed 8 line poem, it boils down to work and dedication in the end no matter how many lines you write. Quantity vs. quality and all that jazz. Not to mention that long pieces can get tiresome to read and bore readers making the complete feel of said poem lose points if the theme is dragged out and tired, feel me?

I agree with the no limit thing we got going (unless other rules are specified for that week) based on the points above but it's ultimately Inno and Vulgar's decision. Just dropping my 2 cents.

I apologize for the lack of votes from me this week as well. I tried to see if I could get some time for it by voting on the phone and when I went by my home to get some stuff but it proved to be difficult. :/

[ribbit]

Uhh where's my battle for this week??

[Destroyer]

Hush

don't look at it as being stuck inside of a box
look at it like you are standing on a beach with a million beautiful shells as far as the eye can see
but you can only fit like 5 in the box you are holding
which 5 do you pick?

that's a haiku

[Hush]

lmao are u flirting with me nigga?

[Destroyer]

lmfao
uhhhh... always...

[ribbit]

Innovator Vulgar

Yo I didn't get a battle this week. Whats going on?

[Hush]

I did my 3

[ribbit]

Your three what?

[Vulgar]

I'll put you in the Witty battle, my bad. ribbit

[ribbit]

Cheers vulgar

[Inno]

Lmao at haikus by jews

[Objective]

Objective vs. Hush - OPEN FOR VOTES.

[Witty]

Why do I always get the 3 way battles? Lmao

Not that I care tho, I'm slaughtering all who stand in my way.

[Gina]

Innovator I'm Gina.

I'm the female who is going to slaughter all of you in battles. Good luck. :)

[ribbit]

Ohh lol I get it your three lol good werk bud Hush

[Sharp]

Vulgar

you guys have these contribute to records? just wondering, I can help with that

[Vulgar]

It's up to the hegemons of the site. Allen Knight Hush

[Allen Knight]

It's up to the hegemons of the site. Allen Knight Hush

its ur league bro, u think they should count, then they can.
up to u.

[Vulgar]

its ur league bro, u think they should count, then they can.
up to u.

Yes.

[Vulgar]

Just as an FYI, all weeks following this one won't be a special haiku-type round. You will have the freedom to write whatever you want, with no line limits. I feel like this is the best way to run this league, considering how easy it was to write three haikus this week, lol.

[Inno]

Just as an FYI, all weeks following this one won't be a special haiku-type round. You will have the freedom to write whatever you want, with no line limits. I feel like this is the best way to run this league, considering how easy it was to write three haikus this week, lol.

Word lol. Yo highenginecheif said je will check out the sige later today.

[Sharp]

Silver's haikus broke me

good god

[Objective]

Word Sharp, might be her best work as of now, haha.

[Sharp]

Yes.

So do you have any spot where you keep records? Or can you let me know when all battles are closed and separate each week? Or even just send me a weekly win loss list?

[Split Eight]

Just as an FYI, all weeks following this one won't be a special haiku-type round. You will have the freedom to write whatever you want, with no line limits. I feel like this is the best way to run this league, considering how easy it was to write three haikus this week, lol.

Did you do the sestina week in the poetry league at RIA?

Probably my favorite writing challenge of all time

[Vulgar]

So do you have any spot where you keep records? Or can you let me know when all battles are closed and separate each week? Or even just send me a weekly win loss list?

This is the records thread so far. I will update it every week after closing battles. To make it easier, I say just wait until the season's over, and then factor in records?

http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=119154

Dr Dog I can't remember if I did that one, but I do remember doing sonnets. Interesting though.

[Sharp]

This is the records thread so far. I will update it every week after closing battles. To make it easier, I say just wait until the season's over, and then factor in records?

http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=119154

Dr Dog I can't remember if I did that one, but I do remember doing sonnets. Interesting though.

Up to you. End of season would be easy but time consuming. I'll do week to week since it's no problem, if your guys want their wins after each week (tbh I would as a battler but y'all are more patient than me)

[Destroyer]

do female votes even count?

[Woke]

I fucked up this week. Won't say how, but it's minor. Yet so important. Not sure how that happened


Side note, haikus suck

[Destroyer]

look assholes
haikus don't have to be 5,7,5
they can be a lot of things
so do t fucking vote against someone because the syllables aren't 5,7,5
those votes shouldn't count

[Destroyer]

my favorite haiku of all time is 7,6,5

her hair is winter fire
January embers
my heart burns there, too

[Witty]

look assholes
haikus don't have to be 5,7,5
they can be a lot of things
so do t fucking vote against someone because the syllables aren't 5,7,5
those votes shouldn't count

This is true tbh.

[Objective]

look assholes
haikus don't have to be 5,7,5
they can be a lot of things
so do t fucking vote against someone because the syllables aren't 5,7,5
those votes shouldn't count

Traditional haikus got a syllable count of 17 in total. Although modern haikus are increasingly not following it (source: Wiki). However;

In 1973, the Haiku Society of America noted that the norm for writers of haiku in English was to use 17 syllables, but they also noted a trend toward shorter haiku.[12]

They don't speak of syllables going beyond 17, only shorter. I might be wrong so feel free to correct me.

But as of now; due to this I can see why it would be off-putting and a huge minus to someone when it goes beyond the 17 syllables to the degree it's worth to point out and maybe even rule out as a complete haiku.

[Objective]

Nevermind, I was wrong. Found a better source that goes in depth on Haiku's: http://www.hsa-haiku.org/archives/HSA_Definitions_2004.html

Though 17 syllables is still [in 1973] the norm in English language haiku, it is more and more common for a haiku to consist of fewer syllables. Rarely is a haiku [in English] longer than 17 syllables.
Destroyer is right, it can be longer than 17 syllables although it rarely happens. I don't think the vote should count either.

It seems like it's more important that the Haiku is atmospheric and in style that makes it different to other forms of poetry. It's just that the 5,7,5 thing is the most common adaptation of Japanese Haiku. Today I learned. ^^

Gina should read this as well (imo) and maybe reconsider deleting her vote and start over unless she can counter these sources. Ultimately it's up to the mods of this league tho' but Destro got a strong point about voting. I didn't mean to single you out or anything but I noticed your vote and Destro got a solid point.

[Vulgar]

Up to you. End of season would be easy but time consuming. I'll do week to week since it's no problem, if your guys want their wins after each week (tbh I would as a battler but y'all are more patient than me)

Wouldn't end of season be easier tho?

I'd send you for ex:

Vulgar 7 wins 5 losses

EZ

Concerning haiku length/syllable count, you guys all right. There are a lot of variations to haikus. I'd definitely say, let it go, and we'll move onto bigger and better things in this league. Singled out poem-styles is a little on the close-minded side. I want to keep things free, open, and fresh.