Is rhyme writing a skill that translate into other forms of writing?

[Vulgar]

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[Witty]

I probably write more non-rhyming stuff these days than vice versa but honestly other than the story telling techniques (if you are writing a novel or short story) I'm not sure this form of writing we do here is very transferrable at all.

[Witty]

Essay writing is a great way to train yourself for academic or non fiction writing in general. Just pick a subject and write an essay on it, do it in your spare time and focus on a wide variety of subjects, it trains your mind to think and write in a critical fashion.

[Frank]

I got A's in all my English courses/classes

why didn't you @ me?

Get @ me!!!!!!

[dead man]

i think it's probably more vice versa.

[dull boy]

I'd say no if you're asking specifically about rhyming.

[dull boy]

i think it's probably more vice versa.

[sral]

I find I'm able to write quickly, faster than I ever could in fact, over the past two years or so. I put that down to the league deadlines etc being 5 days (or shorter, often) so I feel that helps me tremendously.

I've learned not to obsess on finding one perfect rhyming word and if it doesn't come naturally, it probably is best to just move past it and keep writing rather than obsess over finding that one word that rhymes perfectly before I continue. That's probably just a personal perfectionist problem of mine, but I've learned how to overcome it and feel better for it. Here, and outside of here.

I'm definitely more fluent in my writing than I ever was. It comes so easy to me nowadays. Especially on tracks etc this works well for me.

[sral]

I'm not sure tracks is exactly what you were looking for, but I'd say even for live battles - the writing time is shortened for me from having done this years. It gives more time to work on delivery/performance etc

[Vulgar]

Good examples from all, I like the sound of the essay approach. I read books and articles frequently, so I'm sure it'll translate to high level formal writing eventually.

[PancakeBrah]

Maybe in the sense that you have to think of different phrasings to sound natural while rhyming. You could argue that you're expanding your ability to construct certain thoughts so they rhyme while still sounding like normal speech. So maybe a little boost to wording in general when not rhyming. That's the only connection, I think. The whole purpose of rhyming is to show how well you can write with a restriction so it doesn't cross over much.

[uh-oh]

just look at how hard it is for people who started out writing text rhymes, to write actual hip hop rhymes

i'm a firm believer that text is the worst form of writing there is. it hinders your abilities elsewhere for sure.

the only thing it is probably good for is expanding your vocabulary lol

but actual writing mechanics it HAS to hurt, i can't see a benefit

[Vulgar]

Good assessments..

Yeah I'd have to say it's crazy how much more time it takes to write a really good short story vs. writing a really good rhymed verse. Although when I write a verse, the goal is to construct a world or create something with vibrance that speaks to readers. A story is a whole new ball game, because those characters, environments, and the story as a whole requires more attention. Taking away the rhyming can also feel awkward for awhile.

One thing I think translates well is our ability to let the language "flow" because we develop an acuity at manipulating the sounds and streams of language that have momentum. We thrive at aggressive streams of thought, which could translate to more realistic and passionate dialogue from genuine characters in a story. When trying to write a "page turner" we sort of complement that process, because we write "bar turners."

Or I'm just reaching.

[Sharp]

My wording of general things is a lil more effective than it was before tbh

dont know if this is text related, personal growth, or a lil bit of each but I did very little writing outside of this since then

[Sn00p]

One thing I think translates well is our ability to let the language "flow" because we develop an acuity at manipulating the sounds and streams of language that have momentum. We thrive at aggressive streams of thought, which could translate to more realistic and passionate dialogue from genuine characters in a story. When trying to write a "page turner" we sort of complement that process, because we write "bar turners."

I agree with this.

And there are other things I've learnt from text with regards to writing. In text, e.g., you have to be very concise. And that actually applies to other forms of writing as well. At one point in my text career I realized that I need to re-read my sentences and take out every unnecessary word. I do the same with essays now. I think it helps when you try to be clear and concise.

[oats]

I'll get back to this today, it's something I've given a lot of thought. short version: kinda sorta not really.

[veritas]

I just finished my 70k + word novel and am very happy with it. All netcees did was serve as a distraction.


Writing verses helps with trusting your instinct amd just flowing the story. At least for me.

[uh-oh]

yo v

let me read it

that goes for ALL OF YOU

let me read your shit. as it stands the best writer i've met on text forums was richard corey. he let me read some shit dude was nice

[veritas]

I a scared that you will steal it jim. When it is published I will send you an autographed copy.

[uh-oh]

I a scared that you will steal it jim. When it is published I will send you an autographed copy.

i am both offended and honored. i wish you luck in your journey of getting it published.

if publishers turn you down, you can always sell it on amazon and other digital media platforms. a program like scrivener can even save it in every format thinkable, and since its already written, you can also plug it in copy and paste style. it will split your chapters up, put the proper margins etc. all that. and you can use it for free for like 40 days or some shit before you buy it, but since the book is written you don't even need the full 40. just copy and paste and save it as an ebook, pdf, everything

sell it on the amazon kindle store yourself and tell publishers to suck your balls

but word thats if publishers sleep

congrats THO

i never made it out of the outline phase for my epic fantasy saga

[veritas]

Here is my secret sir and thank you.

Wake up an hour early every day and write 1000 words.

2 months you got a novel.

[PancakeBrah]

Here is my secret sir and thank you.

Wake up an hour early every day and write 1000 words.

2 months you got a novel.

Writing a good 1,000 words in an hour.

Likely.

[veritas]

It is. I am proof

[PancakeBrah]

lol troll game vicious

[veritas]

No troll. I legit wrote a novel in 2.5 months. Legit. Glory unto God for blessing me with the ability.

It is arguably top 5 greatest achievements of my life.

[PancakeBrah]

Yeah, but is it any good? I harbor doubts. Good on you, though.

I just finished 'Purity' by Franzen. It's pretty chic, on the internet, to hate him but I thought it was excellent.

[oats]

as far as specific skills, no, I don't think much transfers over from writing rhymes into any other medium, because it's a restriction that is specific to this format. for me personally, I can say that topical writing has helped me develop a couple bad habits, though I don't know if that's native to the form or just the nature of writing for voters. probably somewhere in the middle. I also think topical storytelling fucks with my concept of proper pacing. maybe if you're writing flash fiction, or short stories less than 1000 words, the pace of the story will be somewhat similar, but in any standard fiction writing, it doesn't apply.

the benefit of it in my mind, is that it's fun for me. probably the most purely fun way to write. the enjoyment of it, and the way that the restriction of rhyming (and complex rhyming, at that) can funnel your creativity into original descriptiveness, is pretty unique. and transferable.

more so than writing and experimenting a lot, which is also important, writing improves by reading good writing. instead of just enjoying a good novel/short story/essay/article, reading it to understand why it's successful will you help you maneuver ideas into print more effectively.

or, as Faulkner said: "Read, read, read. Read everything - trash, classics, good and bad, and see how they do it."

[veritas]

I think it is great. I cried at the end. So has everyone else who read it, all real dudes and chicks who keep it real with feedback.

[Eŋg]

it helps me notice internal rhyme when i write (which is of no benefit).

[Neighbor]

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball

[Ghost1]

Was that a sophisticated wolf dick tag that wouldn't fit?

[PancakeBrah]

as far as specific skills, no, I don't think much transfers over from writing rhymes into any other medium, because it's a restriction that is specific to this format. for me personally, I can say that topical writing has helped me develop a couple bad habits, though I don't know if that's native to the form or just the nature of writing for voters. probably somewhere in the middle. I also think topical storytelling fucks with my concept of proper pacing. maybe if you're writing flash fiction, or short stories less than 1000 words, the pace of the story will be somewhat similar, but in any standard fiction writing, it doesn't apply.

the benefit of it in my mind, is that it's fun for me. probably the most purely fun way to write. the enjoyment of it, and the way that the restriction of rhyming (and complex rhyming, at that) can funnel your creativity into original descriptiveness, is pretty unique. and transferable.

more so than writing and experimenting a lot, which is also important, writing improves by reading good writing. instead of just enjoying a good novel/short story/essay/article, reading it to understand why it's successful will you help you maneuver ideas into print more effectively.

or, as Faulkner said: "Read, read, read. Read everything - trash, classics, good and bad, and see how they do it."

I agree with this, heavy. Especially the first paragraph, more specifically the voter and storytelling points. As someone who does character sketches in topicals, I find the rhyming aspect especially restricting. There's really no way to create a three dimensional character in 30-40 "lines" while rhyming. I've had some success with it, in terms of this site, but that's more due to the fact I'm simply dope.

As for the voter thing, I think taking criticism from most voters/feeders on this site is pretty bad if you're looking to write normal prose in the future. It's all engineered to a predetermined simple baseline set by OG's of topical writing who stopped this hobby years ago. Real, true, innovative topical writing isn't a thing. That's the reason why I really enjoy brokenhalo open mics, it's different and still good. And the dull boy/bb/bwhaha/etc. group.

I still think it can help wording and thinking of different types of phrases, but overall it's a bad habit.