don't sleep on the new star wars

[Destroyer]

shit is great
saw it at 10 am
going again at 9

[Objective]

Just getting on the hype no actually. Guess I'm a late bloomer as I'm not really into sci-fi. The story and the work that's been put into it is what brings me towards it. III is the only movie I haven't seen yet, and after that I'm watch the newest with some friends between Christmas Day and New years eve, looking forward to it.

[uh-oh]

These never did anything for me. I want to get into them but they do nothing for me. I downloaded all the other ones and will eventually watch them. By then a quality screener or something will be out

[TYSON]

Good to hear someones personal review of it. Been wanting to know if it was worth watching with all the controversy behind the movie. May go watch it. Not a star wars fanatic but love my sci Fi.

[ill nik-A]

Never been into Star Wars

[TYSON]

Nobody's notice that this is the nerd era? I fucks with it tho cause I have my nerdish ways too.

[Ghost1]

Nerd Era or not star wars sells movie tickets in any Era

Hype for this shit.

[Bash]

Goin sunday morning. I assume the theater wont be as full

[TYSON]

I'm not denying the relevance of stars wars on a consistent level but if you look around you, nerd is in. Back in the 90's different story. Just saying

[Ghost1]

Nah u right. I dig it. Nerd bitches r hot. Or maybe this current nerd era has TRICKED my small mind into thinking this....but I like them.

[...the Nagger]

Good I hope so my girls dad got us all going. I ain't never watched a Star Wars movie before lol. I don't wanna go she didn't even ask me

I went to see creed last week that shit was ill. Way better than that captain Phillips bullshit @aero

[Fart]

I can wait
uh-oh if there was a screener it would of been out before the world premiers lol but word i can wait the 2-3 months for the HD downloads

[Certain]

Even if you never liked the first six and ESPECIALLY if you liked the first two or three but hated the prequels, this movie is great. You don't need to watch the prequel trilogy, but knowing the original trilogy is somewhat important.

[Nameflip]

My dudes nephew cried 3 times while we watched the movie, shit was embarrassing. Hes 21. Lmao

[Batty]

Saw it yesterday, felt like a Star Wars videogame or something. Not feeling it as much as everybody else is tbh. I liked some of it but hated a lot of it.

Guardians of the Galaxy does space adventure right.

[Destroyer]

yeah... you're dumb

[Batty]

yeah... you're dumb


Lolololol drive your remote control bb8 into ur butthole.

If you're a legit fan of Star Wars, you already know random niggas don't just pick up lightsabers and fuck up Sith. You gotta train and shit tho.

Yo, answer this... how do you go from thinking the Jedi are a myth to automatically knowing how to do jedi mind tricks and willing your lightsaber into your hand lolololol

[Destroyer]

she was obv seriously force sensitive
same way anakin could pod race as a human child
don't start up with me Batty
I did find it odd that Han had never fired Chewy's bowcaster in their entire history
didn't like snoke's design
but overall, shit was bonkers

[Destroyer]

dude wasn't sith either
he was an INJURED darth Vader fanboy

[veritas]

Batman,

You are currently engaging with a 45yr old child who still spends his part time job money on shoes and relies on cannabis to numb the pain of his existence. The fool is strong with this one.


at any rate, F this movie. The more I think about it, the worse it gets. Totally underwhelming. Kylo Ren is J.P. from Grandma's boy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ltORkYAdVk

RAGE QUIT

[Destroyer]

lmao
dude I seriously thought of JP while watching kylo

I can't even argue with anything you said

[Batty]

I swear I thought the same thing about Han and Chewie with the bowcaster. These niggas are life partners and shit, prolly been kicking it for like 50 years and this nigga just shit his boy's glock.

Naw son.

Also was feeling cheated by Yoda 2.0 who kept the OG lightsaber in Jack Sparrow's toolbox for some reason (cause movie). Lookin like a Psychonaut and shit.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MUYu8TSGJVM/TPWbpc8koVI/AAAAAAAAABA/Pj8TV1kKfBQ/s1600/psychonauts_raz.png

[Chyeahhh!!!]

yep, saw it lastnight going again tonight

[Chyeahhh!!!]

Kylo Ren is J.P. from Grandma's boy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ltORkYAdVk

RAGE QUIT

totally thought the same thing lmao

[Certain]

Spoilers everywhere.

Kylo Ren is not at all tapped into his powers. He is trying to feed his energy through the Dark Side but lacks both proper training and proper connection. That — plus his injury — is why they allowed Finn to hang with him. He really is a lot like J.P., not only in terms of how he looks. He's a wanna-be posing as something much more. He is decidedly not Darth Vader.

Rey is almost certainly the daughter of Luke Skywalker, the more I think about it. And there is a good chance she is aware of it to some degree but unwilling to discuss it because her mother's death/disappearance scarred her emotionally. That makes her likely far more Force-sensitive than Ben and possibly very quick to understand her power.

[Batty]

The reason why the whole "Ren is just a Sith fanboy" concept doesn't work for me, is the fact the he is clearly using force choke, mind reading and is stopping laser blasts better than Vader did in ESB lolololol

[Destroyer]

the laser blast thing, while awesome, was probably too much for what kylo should have been able to do

[Batty]

http://i2.wp.com/memecollection.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/GOTGSTARWARS.jpg

[Certain]

the laser blast thing, while awesome, was probably too much for what kylo should have been able to do

Agreed. But I think his greatest fault is his lack of confidence and concentration. So in a scenario where he clearly can feel powerful, he will perform much better than one where he is worried or emotionally confused. He had killed his father minutes before the lightsaber battle.

[veritas]

Well, I am glad that all of you have stopped drinking the disney kool aid and have come to reason.

IT will probably better than the new fast and furious coming out. I mean Star Trek.

[veritas]

Real talk...if in the next two movies that come out, if Kylo Ren gets robot legs for any reason....just know....VERITAS WINS lolzozlzljeokja;lkjlkgjaw

cuz movie.

dead at psychonaut.

[Batty]

Real creative with the names too, JJ.

REN BEN FINN REY POE

sounds like warm-ups for choir practice.

Also he named a X-WING Pilot after the Beastie Boys and made a bootleg Porkins.

[El Muffin]

Lol she was force sensitive tho!


Stfu des u look like one of the musicians in the Mos Eisley cantina

[Ghost1]

Lmao. Not eve a clue about that reference

VINTAGE MUFF

[Allen Knight]

im goin tonight to see it, shit looks dope.

[El Muffin]

AK u look like wedge antilles foh

[TYSON]

Fucked up Finn ain't become the Jedi. Jedis are only white I guess lol. Just playing and serious

[veritas]

Fucked up Finn ain't become the Jedi. Jedis are only white I guess lol. Just playing and serious



Mace Windu 2 thread.

[Allen Knight]

AK u look like wedge antilles foh

idk who that is.
but u look like a grape snow cone covered w/ pubic hair foh.

[TYSON]

The movie is pretty good tho.

[Junto]

hope you get Aurora'd on your sixth time watching in theatres you fuckin faggot

Destroyer

[El Muffin]

idk who that is.
but u look like a grape snow cone covered w/ pubic hair foh.


U look like one of the students from the movie "187"

[Destroyer]

hope you get Aurora'd on your sixth time watching in theatres you fuckin faggot

Destroyer

right back at u alias scum

[veritas]

THE MORE I THINK ON IT, THE MORE THIS MOVIE SUCKED. AND WITH MY LOVE OF THE ORIGINALS IT MADE IT SUCK EVEN MORE.

YOUR MOVE NEW STAR TREK.

[Destroyer]

your troll game is worse than the prequels

[Hush]

Prolly won't see it

[veritas]

your troll game is worse than the prequels

Is this addressed to me?

[Destroyer]

who else?

[Destroyer]

hush, you have permission to sleep on everything but when behind the wheel...

[Certain]

The four flaws that I still am thinking about (extreme nerd post about to happen in this thread), in reverse order:

4. Han Solo never used Chewbacca's bowcaster.

This struck me as odd right away, and I'm glad someone brought it up here. But whatever. It was trivial.

3. Kylo Ren's power.

This one may be explicable if you ascribe to the importance of focus when using the Force, though that still does not explain why he was using the Force at Darth Sidious levels. But it contributes to a larger issue that the First Order is not nearly as threatening as the Empire, Snoke is not nearly as threatening as Emperor Palpatine and Kylo Ren is not nearly as threatening as Darth Vader. The bad guys are going to have to seriously up the ante in the next one.

2. Rey.

She probably is Luke's daughter. Get ready for that predictable twist. And that makes her entire plot line in this movie very contrived. You're telling me Luke Skywalker's daughter just happens to be an immensely Force-sensitive poor girl on the exact planet where BB-8 gets lost while holding a piece of a map to Luke Skywalker? You could argue the Force drew her to BB-8 since it works in mysterious ways, but that still seems like a pretty major contrivance. Other elements of her power do manifest themselves before she realizes she has the Force —for instance, she's a great fighter and pilot. I don't mind her having such a complete "awakening" and being able to use the Force so early on because we obviously are to interpret her as an enormously powerful future Jedi. But I do hope they avoid making her Rey Skywalker. We don't need that.

1. Finn's transformation.

God, this one is getting to me more and more. They brushed his turn from stormtrooper to resistance leader off as though it were nothing for him. If we are to believe that stormtroopers now are kidnapped at birth and trained for their whole lives to serve the First Order, why is Finn so charismatic? How would he have developed such an interesting personality? Furthermore, if stormtroopers are slaves and also the people Finn grew up with, why is he so OK with murdering them? In his very first battle, he kills stormtroopers with no hesitation. Wasn't murder the reason he was running?

With all of that said, it still was a very good movie. And there still is plenty of time —at least two more movies with this cast —to resolve three of those issues. I am looking forward to the next one.

[veritas]

who else?

How do want me to make you feel tonight?

[Batty]

YOUR MOVE NEW STAR TREK.

You already know. There's not really much difference between the 2 now. Everybody is an over the top action star now and Lens flares

[Destroyer]

sexy @Veritas

[Ghost1]

Lol

[veritas]

sexy @Veritas

Ok. Put your wife on the phone. I will coach her. Fair?

[veritas]

You already know. There's not really much difference between the 2 now. Everybody is an over the top action star now and Lens flares

HIGHLY ILLOGICAL.

[Diode]

Lolololol drive your remote control bb8 into ur butthole.

If you're a legit fan of Star Wars, you already know random niggas don't just pick up lightsabers and fuck up Sith. You gotta train and shit tho.

Yo, answer this... how do you go from thinking the Jedi are a myth to automatically knowing how to do jedi mind tricks and willing your lightsaber into your hand lolololol

Han used a light saber

Also, Rey is Luke's daughter

[Geno]

Peeped in 3d
Han solo son is a whore though. Anyone else notice that but me? Stay getting chumped

Nostalgic to say the least. I was hype way more than expected during movie

[Geno]

Oh.. and. It was when she touched the sabre and got the visions. Thats when the force took over. She got a pep talk from pink whooopi goldberg and when she had no other choice.. she tried it and it worked. U have to remember. Even solo son said the force was strong with her before she even knew it. He jive tipped her off and she ki d of followed suit and did what he performed on her rite bak. Yea.. to me more training is necessary to defeat an already trained dark side jedi.. so that was ki d of meh. But it was still dope

[Geno]

Also.. i gotta admit. I was really confused aboug who vader/solo son was. Didnt even know solo had a son and thought itg was just a new vader mask. Espescially was like wtf when the original vader mask was shown while solo son was asking it for guidance i was like yo.. wtf is going on. This guy isnt vader? So i finally realized after thinking vader was solo son that i was so fuckibg wrong. Solo son and vader were two diff peeps. Its just crazy to me how the whole relationship thing worked out.. lume is vader son. Solo is lume bestvfriend. Solo son is vader prodigy.. and luke daughter is now his lifelong enemy ( solo son ). Fuckjbg crazy twist of events imo. Obviously i have to go back and watvh the 70-80s movies over to see whT the fuck i cant remember and how i lost ao muvh info over the years. The newer three to me are meaningless. But i will be watvhing them also cause dug force awakens so much. Just glad thT they killed harrison off. Cause he looking old as fuck and aint got many movie appearances left in him. At least luke lookin youbg enough to be in a few more and train his daughter before they kill him off.

[Diode]

#dirtreviews

[Batty]

Han used a light saber

Also, Rey is Luke's daughter



Han cut a dead space goat up with a lightsaber, he didn't cut Darth Maul in half lolololol.

[Diode]

Han cut a dead space goat up with a lightsaber, he didn't cut Darth Maul in half lolololol.

Ijs anyone who is a friend of the force even if not a Jedi seems to be able to use one

[Batty]

I'm sure an average nigga could light a Newport with a lightsaber, I'm just saying this Ren dude is clearly trained and shouldn't be getting schooled by newbs lol.

[veritas]

Don't sweat him Roy, it's just the steak of loneliness talking.

[Diode]

http://io9.gizmodo.com/33-questions-we-desperately-want-answered-after-star-wa-1748953034

everything answered for the most part.

[Flow]

Just seen it. Was awful

[Ghost1]

3 pages of Roy an veritas, cringe.

[veritas]

Your mother hates you.

[Destroyer]

lol if flo real hated it it's safe to say it was spectacular
dude is the legit worst voter on here

[veritas]

Let's go back to anthony throwing shade....Anthony will you apologize?

[Allen Knight]

Lolololol drive your remote control bb8 into ur butthole.

If you're a legit fan of Star Wars, you already know random niggas don't just pick up lightsabers and fuck up Sith. You gotta train and shit tho.


yea thats the one part that made me go wtf tbh.

almost ruined me liking the whole movie, till the end....that made up for it.

[Batty]

3 pages of Roy an veritas, cringe.



Fr???How you gone do your boy like that tho, Bagsworth

I saw you was one of the xwing pilots in this jump, so imma let you make it tho.

Repped.

[Ghost1]

I like u batty. On ur own. Veritas...on his own can be good also....

But u know when u mix to really awesome things.... (well...when u mix an acne riddled man child w a bald trekkie in this case) and things just don't work out as well as ud of originally assumed?

Nahmean?

[veritas]

apologize to your elders.

[Batty]

I like u batty. On ur own. Veritas...on his own can be good also....

But u know when u mix to really awesome things.... (well...when u mix an acne riddled man child w a bald trekkie in this case) and things just don't work out as well as ud of originally assumed?

Nahmean?


I can not argue with this.

Me and V were in a psychology meeting once and ate all of the donuts. True story.

[veritas]

The cat ladies were mad pissed. Ole sassy tye duck like no they didnt.

At any rate.....Anthony yoy need to apologize for your hurtful words. Not because they hurt us, but because they shamed you.

[veritas]

i found this on my computer Anthony. Thought I would share bro


Anthony Colavito, aged 29 years old had finally realized it. He was going to die. His death would not be heroic, or meteoric, nay even memorable. Anthony knew he would die alone, miserable and afraid. This epiphany was realized as Anthony pushed his 2001 brown Pontiac Sunfire through yet another Harrisburg rush hour. Work had sucked today, and to be honest, work sucked every day. He had to deal with assholes all day long on the phones, and quite frankly, he had to take it. Sometimes he imagined that he was able to just say whatever he wanted to these people, these people in a figurative sense, because to Anthony these were sub-human dirt people who should all be sodomized and shot. Or at least tortured. Anthony would often look down at the phone and tune out. He would imagine stabbing voices, and then, as usual, when the voice on the other end got quiet he would say: “mmmhmm” and the voice would continue….As would Anthony.
The day that led to this rush hour revelation was filled with imaginary murders of subhumans and Anthony was feeling rather crunchy already as his Sunfire had to stop because the cars in front of him had decided to do their best parking lot impression. Anthony lit a Seneca up and rolled down the window. “Hope you niggaz sleep” by Notorious B.i.g feat. Cash Money was prominent, all tweeters, all 6X9’s. “I know you bitches know that I aint to be played with” Stated Turk emphatically. Anthony put on his sunglasses, as the sun was burning his face and increasing its oil output. Anthony looked to his left at the car next to him…and it started: The car to his left was a later model Honda Accord and the man was talking and the woman next to him was turned towards him on the seat. She was listening to him, and Anthony realized that she was a good woman and that he would never have that. Anthony exhaled smoke and looked to his right. He saw a woman driving a van and there were 3 kids bouncing around in the back and the dad was sitting shotgun laughing out loud. Anthony’s brow furrowed as he realized he would never have this either. Anthony looked in the rearview and saw a bald man wearing sun glasses with a beard in a champagne cadillac looking directly at him looking at him. A chill went down Anthony’s spine.
Anthony looked at the car in front of him, it was an older man, middle aged, grey just now touching his temples and he was smoking what looked like, from at this distance, to be a quality cigar and his nice suit seemed to respond willingly to the air moving around him as his convertible Benz stood still in the gridlock. Anthony thought again that he would never have that. He looked up into his rearview mirror and he saw the man smiling. “I WILL NEVER MATTER, TO ANYONE, TO MYSELF, TO HISTORY…I DON’T MATTER.” The voice rang through Anthony’s head and caused the sharpest pain, as if someone was trying to stick mechanical pencil lead directly into his urethra. Luckily the traffic started moving again and Anthony flicked his Seneca out and rode to his home. It started raining as soon as he pulled up to it.
…….

[Ghost1]

I'm pretty sure ur the only one that ever got anything out if that post.....esp since uve posted it repeatedly

8ve honestly never even read past the first couple sentences :/

U writing fan fiction about my life.......pull it together

[Hush]

Damn near 3 yrs later same shit from fat wife

[Ghost1]

It's kindve like when a little kid doesn't know when the game/jokes over.......and they just keep on with it to the point where the other person or adult has to be like.........alright....knock it the fuck off idiot we are done with that.....................but it just doesn't sink in to the kid

[veritas]

Huth does not matter nor will I ever give him permission to.

Anthony: the irony is strong. Your analogy is exactly what is going on here....just reversed. You thinkING this is about an old message board beef is the exact point of the issue. This is about me being the adult and trying to get you to leave that mode of thought. You are also an easy target bc you are a bully. We need to stop that.

[Ghost1]

Nah....No1 said anything about that but u. Still. Ur projecting. D9 something new.or Stfu cornball.

[veritas]

Wrong. I do not give your permission to take that tone with me. I have always been and will always be your disgruntled guardian angel. You know this. The one who needs to change is you.

I don't care about doing new. Just like you don't. Fair?

[veritas]

Jut apologize as we will be square, cool?

[Diode]

Lol

[veritas]

Lol

Soon it will be your turn. Why do you resist making contact with me?

[PancakeBrah]

Read the first page of the thread. Assume the rest is normal Netcees stuff.

spoilers, i suppose

I liked it. Thought Kylo Ren was a good villain. The choice to subvert the expected and have him casually take off his helmet when confronted about it was good. Thought the Han death was well done if not telegraphed. The homages to A New Hope was a bit much but on balance this was an enjoyable film.

The moment when Rey out-forced Kylo for the lightsaber, with the Star Wars theme building into it, gave me some chills. Other than that nothing too crazy. Definitely an improvement from the prequels. Rian Johnson should do well with VIII. He's better than Abrams.

[PancakeBrah]

2. Rey.

She probably is Luke's daughter. Get ready for that predictable twist. And that makes her entire plot line in this movie very contrived. You're telling me Luke Skywalker's daughter just happens to be an immensely Force-sensitive poor girl on the exact planet where BB-8 gets lost while holding a piece of a map to Luke Skywalker? You could argue the Force drew her to BB-8 since it works in mysterious ways, but that still seems like a pretty major contrivance. Other elements of her power do manifest themselves before she realizes she has the Force —for instance, she's a great fighter and pilot. I don't mind her having such a complete "awakening" and being able to use the Force so early on because we obviously are to interpret her as an enormously powerful future Jedi. But I do hope they avoid making her Rey Skywalker. We don't need that.

1. Finn's transformation.

God, this one is getting to me more and more. They brushed his turn from stormtrooper to resistance leader off as though it were nothing for him. If we are to believe that stormtroopers now are kidnapped at birth and trained for their whole lives to serve the First Order, why is Finn so charismatic? How would he have developed such an interesting personality? Furthermore, if stormtroopers are slaves and also the people Finn grew up with, why is he so OK with murdering them? In his very first battle, he kills stormtroopers with no hesitation. Wasn't murder the reason he was running?

With all of that said, it still was a very good movie. And there still is plenty of time —at least two more movies with this cast —to resolve three of those issues. I am looking forward to the next one.

With #2, it's already very contrived whether or not Rey is Luke's daughter, which I think is a red herring.

1. The old brah with the map to Luke is on Jakku
2. Rey's on Jakku (whether she's Luke's daughter or just a random Super Jedi Brah is basically the same for contrivance purposes)
3. Finn & Poe crash within walking distance to Rey's camp on Jakku after being shot out of space.
4. Finn randomly guesses a direction that leads him to Rey and BB-8.

I think the ship/mechanic aspect of her character can be attributed to her scavenging work. She's been doing this for 20~ years, liable to pick up some know how. Know how to the extent of shutting off the Millenium Falcon mid-flight with such precision as to aim a broken turret? Probably not. As for her force powers, it beggars belief. But if we assume that she's immensely gifted, coupled with the fact that she only uses the force after seeing Kylo Ren using it (on her no less) a couple times, it sort of works.

2. Cold blooded murder of townfolk is different than battling with a purpose, with your friends lives at stake and knowing the opposing side is "bad". Stormtroopers in the film showed some personality; the two that u-turned during Ren's temper tantrum. Also, if we accept the fact that he can have a personality, I don't find his arc that unbelievable. He wasn't put into a leadership position with the Resistance; he was a unique perspective and subject matter expert for the specific mission that was going down. His input would be valued if his allegiance wasn't suspect, which it wasn't since he was co-signed by Han, Chewie, and Rey.

The biggest fuck up, besides the stretch of belief I listed above, is R2D2 just randomly waking up. Unless I missed something about that.

[Bash]

Didnt like how they easily used the light saber with no practice. Other than that it was dope imo

[Certain]

The biggest fuck up, besides the stretch of belief I listed above, is R2D2 just randomly waking up. Unless I missed something about that.

J.J. Abrams explained that. He says R2D2 was in low-power mode and took a while to restart after BB-8 contacted it to tell it about the map.

[Useless]

Didnt like how they easily used the light saber with no practice. Other than that it was dope imo

The popular theory is that Rey was trained as Jedi then somehow had her mind wiped so she has no memory of it.

[Geno]

whos theory?

[Useless]

I don't remember who's


But that's why she had visions/flashbacks or whatev when she touched the light saber.


I don't really care. Not a big star wars fan tbh. I'm waiting on Superman vs batman, civil war, xmen apocolypse and deadpool.

[Ghost1]

U mother fuckers needing out hard.......as though u know better then the mother fucker that made the shit



OH HOW COMEZ SHE IS LIGHTSABER

CUZ FUCKING GEORGE LUCAS SAID SO

over\

[Diode]

U mother fuckers needing out hard.......as though u know better then the mother fucker that made the shit



OH HOW COMEZ SHE IS LIGHTSABER

CUZ FUCKING GEORGE LUCAS SAID SO

over\

george lucas had zero involvement in this film

like none

whatsoever

which is why it didn't suck and there was no jar jar and no mention of GODDAMNED FUCKING MIDICHLORIANS

[Useless]

'Zactly


Bag's fail

[Greed]

It was pretty good.

[Ghost1]

My point remains lol

[PancakeBrah]

Nah you are the nerd, brah.

[Ghost1]

Et tu, caké?

[Fart]

this movie was good
zero weak points except some casting and
SPOILER
the first order's super weapon, and probably the first order overall being weak itself

[Ghost1]

This was dope lol

[Mr. J]

Obviously Leias daughter though...

[MMLP]

The movie is brilliant, a definite 9/10. They focused on the realism and characters and it worked a treat, set a good basis to build on now.

Certain made some good points, I will say though, I think kylo Ren isn't meant to be as threatening and menacing as vader, hes a lot more humanised, comes across younger, not fully matured and far less trained up which was deliberate. Snoke goes on to say 'ill complete his training'.

I dunno why he said 'thank you' after killing his dad???

They've built a good character and it will interesting to see how he develops and Rey now shes gonna harness the force n become a jedi.

tbf on the finn point, if somebody is shooting ya, ur not gonna stand by n do nothing, ur gonna have to shoot them back. So finn becoming an overnight 'killer' is more self defence rather than cold-blooded, viable!

I wish JJ Abram's was still involved, hopefully it doesn't suffer.

[Ghost1]

Before he kills his dad he says....I need u to help me

Prior to that he admittedly was having trouble staying committed to the dark side

He says Thank u...because killing his father brought him closer to the dark side



Least that's how I interpreted it

Also am hoping the chick is not related to any1 an is just a new jedi

[MMLP]

Yer seems right tbf, he was torn between both sides throughout the chat.

LOL @ the 'han solong' tag!!!!!!!!

[Plot]

To fully become Sith you must sacrifice someone you love.
its like dark side initiation or some shit...
Vader wasn't turned yet till he strangled Princess Armdamdmanda
And Its why the emperor was so keen on seeing Luke kill Vader.