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Chyeahhh!!!
01-02-2016, 07:39 AM
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99 prolems and Ether won

uh-oh
01-02-2016, 08:31 AM
Boo

Witty
01-02-2016, 09:16 AM
Nas won the battle (it was close tho, super ugly went in) but Jay won the war.

Chyeahhh!!!
01-02-2016, 09:21 AM
Jay won what war?


this dude basically swagger jacked his way to the upper echelon of the business and hoodwinked many any the process. Dude is a clone of everyone he encountered

ill nik-A
01-02-2016, 09:30 AM
Nas fell off bad

He wishes he was Jay

Chyeahhh!!!
01-02-2016, 10:10 AM
lmao this dude is like the only irrelevant cat from the golden era to still be relevant and original and still kills it on the mic. Dude had like 3 or 4 fire features just last year alone and killed every last one.

fluck outta here i

ill nik-A
01-02-2016, 10:18 AM
Nas still raps? Roflzzzzz

He must be MC Elenin

Witty
01-02-2016, 10:20 AM
Jay won what war?


this dude basically swagger jacked his way to the upper echelon of the business and hoodwinked many any the process. Dude is a clone of everyone he encountered

I mean, he sold way more records and made way more money.

He has more classic albums.

They're both all time greats tho.

its faggot zelph
01-02-2016, 10:20 AM
I have never liked jay z I'm more of the tech n9ne fan

Witty
01-02-2016, 10:22 AM
I have never liked jay z I'm more of the tech n9ne fan

This won't end well for you here.

I may be one the only people here who think tech is crazy with it.

Jay's just maybe the most naturally gifted rapper ever imo in terms of flow, he was born to rap, it takes 0 effort to him. The only person maybe more naturally gifted is Royce.

its faggot zelph
01-02-2016, 10:24 AM
Maybe even Plies

Witty
01-02-2016, 10:24 AM
You lost me.

Greed
01-02-2016, 10:38 AM
Get that royce bullshit out of here.

Nas decommissioned jay with ether. It took a lot of snake moves but jay managed to fuck nas girl and then write an opera about it with his future wife effectively winning the war.

And ill tell you what tech nine problem is. He switches his style up so much per song that it becomes repetitive and expected. Thats why he could never fully break into mainstream all his songs damn near sound the same.

its faggot zelph
01-02-2016, 10:39 AM
Get that royce bullshit out of here.

Nas decommissioned jay with ether. It took a lot of snake moves but jay managed to fuck nas girl and then write an opera about it with his future wife effectively winning the war.

And ill tell you what tech nine problem is. He switches his style up so much per song that it becomes repetitive and expected. Thats why he could never fully break into mainstream all his songs damn near sound the same.

He comes out with so many albums and tapes each year including the collabos thing I can't keep up

Sugawoogalollylollylolly

Witty
01-02-2016, 10:51 AM
Get that royce bullshit out of here.

Lol dead.

I didn't read the rest of your post.

ill nik-A
01-02-2016, 11:07 AM
Do u listen to music or do u just skim through it - Jay Z

U niggaz hip hop knowledge and taste is wack af

Mr. J
01-02-2016, 12:29 PM
Takeover didn't fully focus on Nas though so...






plus Ether could have been written by Saigon when he did Underachiever

ill nik-A
01-02-2016, 12:57 PM
Quotable vs quotable

Tell me who wrote better

~RustyGunZ~
01-02-2016, 02:20 PM
Quotable vs quotable

Tell me who wrote better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLipqNjQr6A

Certain
01-02-2016, 02:35 PM
I still listen to "Takeover" and "Ether" on a regular basis. Not many diss tracks I can say that about.

Destroyer
01-02-2016, 02:45 PM
<Nas

ill nik-A
01-02-2016, 03:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLipqNjQr6A

LOL

Diode
01-02-2016, 03:30 PM
Nas > Jay

.. but I realize that's a minority opinion. Some of it probably has to do with age, but Jay never put anything out that can even remotely touch Illmatic. I'd take Lost Tapes over most of his catalog. Something about making a career out of flipping other people's (better) lines rubs me the wrong way. I've also never really been a fan of his voice either. Plus, his fake street gangster bravado is hollow as fuck. I know everybody does it but his threat-line raps are so lol. He grew up in Marcy back when it was shitty but the dude was just an average high school kid and then got out quickly.

Also, Nas is a god tier storyteller, which is my soft spot for rappers.

Greed
01-02-2016, 04:03 PM
This is preference i suppose. Illmatic stillmatic and life is good were dope to me but so was reasonable doubt American gangster and holy grail. Jay sells game and nas is a storyteller. This is song cry vs. Undying love. Nas is very remorseful in his raps while jay preaches doing it right. Im a huge fan of both but i do not put on nas when im entertaining. He can be a bit of a downer.

Certain
01-02-2016, 04:05 PM
My thing with Nas is that he has no musical sense. He let Salaam Remi, a garbage producer with a dated style, dominate a decade of his career. Those awesome songs on The Lost Tapes? He ditched them in favor of the crap he used as filler on I Am ... and Stillmatic. He spent a decade trying to make a club banger even though that's not in his stylistic wheelhouse at all.

Nas probably is more talented at rapping than Jay Z. Certainly, it's very close. But his career disappoints me for that reason. He tried to be trendy, while Jay Z was making the trends. He tried to be popular, while Jay Z was redefining what popularity meant for rappers. But more than anything, he picked bad producers to stick with, while Jay Z went with Kanye West and Just Blaze, then picked out select times to use the biggest names around.

Eŋg
01-02-2016, 04:34 PM
Nas still raps? Roflzzzzz

He must be MC Elenin

it's good to see the wit with which you compose verse bleeds into your posting.

Jay's just maybe the most naturally gifted rapper ever imo in terms of flow, he was born to rap, it takes 0 effort to him. The only person maybe more naturally gifted is Royce.

that's an unimaginably bad opinion.

Witty
01-02-2016, 04:44 PM
How does it feel being wrong on such a regular basis @eng?

Eŋg
01-02-2016, 04:52 PM
it doesn't (because i'm not). feeble attempt at a loaded question. at least your folly is consistent.

Witty
01-02-2016, 04:56 PM
I'll put my folly in your anus.

Eŋg
01-02-2016, 05:03 PM
no thanks, i'm not dagel.

Witty
01-02-2016, 05:57 PM
Yes you are.

TYSON
01-02-2016, 06:51 PM
Jay-Z is the better entertainer and nas is the better lyricist. Ether killed the battle. Why is this even still in debate?

Razah
01-02-2016, 06:58 PM
the black album.

ill nik-A
01-02-2016, 06:59 PM
Whoever created this thread must be a faggot

uh-oh
01-02-2016, 07:03 PM
Jay also put on alot of producers like 9th for example.

Illmatic is the best album of all time probably. I put reasonable doubt right up there though and 9 other jay albums that are all leaps and bounds ahead of everything else nas ever made. Nas is good for 2 songs an album. Jay was good for 10. Nowadays i care less for either tho.

But as it stands today id rather hear a new nas track than a jay track. Mainly because you know what your getting with nas. Hes gonna come like he always does. The only thing thats gonna make or break it is rhe beat. Jay on the other hand even ruins good beats nowadays.

That said jay is so far ahead of nas it isnt even fair to discuss.

its faggot zelph
01-02-2016, 07:32 PM
9th

Chyeahhh!!!
01-03-2016, 07:38 AM
I mean, he sold way more records and made way more money.

He has more classic albums.

They're both all time greats tho.

that's what it all boils down to. Records and Money. So if that's whats most important and thats what makes on MC better than the next then Vanilla Ice is better the Pharoah Monch

Chyeahhh!!!
01-03-2016, 07:40 AM
Jay also put on alot of producers like 9th for example.

Illmatic is the best album of all time probably. I put reasonable doubt right up there though and 9 other jay albums that are all leaps and bounds ahead of everything else nas ever made. Nas is good for 2 songs an album. Jay was good for 10. Nowadays i care less for either tho.

But as it stands today id rather hear a new nas track than a jay track. Mainly because you know what your getting with nas. Hes gonna come like he always does. The only thing thats gonna make or break it is rhe beat. Jay on the other hand even ruins good beats nowadays.

That said jay is so far ahead of nas it isnt even fair to discuss.

nigga name 10 Jay Z songs that will stand the test of time as far as lyrics and MC ability goes

I won't hold my breath

dude has mainstream appeal, that's it. In My Lifetime Vol 2 is Jays best album to me

ill nik-A
01-03-2016, 08:11 AM
nigga name 10 Jay Z songs that will stand the test of time as far as lyrics and MC ability goes

I won't hold my breath

dude has mainstream appeal, that's it. In My Lifetime Vol 2 is Jays best album to me

And this is why your taste sucks

Chyeahhh!!!
01-03-2016, 08:45 AM
you only like the nigga cause you're as old as him

Chyeahhh!!!
01-03-2016, 08:46 AM
name your top 10 nika, bet mine would shit all over yours lyrically

Chyeahhh!!!
01-03-2016, 08:46 AM
nigga prolly got Rico Suave in his top 10, fluck outta here

TYSON
01-03-2016, 08:47 AM
Lol^^^

Witty
01-03-2016, 09:35 AM
that's what it all boils down to. Records and Money. So if that's whats most important and thats what makes on MC better than the next then Vanilla Ice is better the Pharoah Monch

I'm not saying he's a better emcee, I'm just saying when it boils down to it the only way to decide who wins that doesn't come down to opinion is by going by numbers and success.

Ghost1
01-03-2016, 09:42 AM
Mc is master of ceremonies

Nas ain't mcing shit over jigga wen he's performing gods son singles for a crowd of 3 in Beyonds basement.

Destroyer
01-03-2016, 09:54 AM
who am I?
the MC

Razah
01-03-2016, 10:05 AM
you only like the nigga cause you're as old as him

lmao.

ill nik-A
01-03-2016, 10:58 AM
name your top 10 nika, bet mine would shit all over yours lyrically

wtf is a lyrically, this is music, nerd

see that's the difference, u don't even know what u're listening to

that's noob behavior lol wow

Inno
01-03-2016, 11:12 AM
Jay z fucked nas' babies moms in a Acura yo

Left cum stains on the baby sit.

Jay wins

Chyeahhh!!!
01-03-2016, 11:23 AM
wtf is a lyrically, this is music, nerd

see that's the difference, u don't even know what u're listening to

that's noob behavior lol wow

everyone is a noob to the oldest man on the board

oh wise elderly man please school me in the ways of your musical taste and how Jay-z is musically better than Nas?

que the violins and harp notes

ill nik-A
01-03-2016, 12:10 PM
Much better musically by a lot

If u wanna depict the artist by lyrics and not music, I don't know what to tell u

Chyeahhh!!!
01-03-2016, 12:22 PM
Bags your critique is poppycock nigga. stick to your camron allergy.flow and wack vids with Heatmakerz and them murder she wrote drapes in the background you


you dead nigga

Schadenfreude
01-03-2016, 03:22 PM
'PERSONALLY' Hovah is my #1 favorite MC of all time.

But taste is subjective, so Idgaf about anyone else's opinion of him.

THEREFORE THIS ENTIRE DEBATE/ARGUMENT'S POINTLESS...

..each individual will always see shit differently...

Besides Nas is one of my favorites as well.