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oats
01-17-2016, 10:07 PM
anyone watching? I just started streaming it at work. I got Browne, Pettis and Dillashaw, though I'm secretly rooting for Cruz. don't care that much about Trinaldo-Pearson, but I'm leaning Trinaldo.

Allen Knight
01-17-2016, 10:29 PM
watching.

Fart
01-17-2016, 10:40 PM
Cruz needs to lose and retire. Fragile pussy

Diode
01-17-2016, 11:12 PM
Honda's BF/Womanbeater ate supersize Uhohs lunch.

Fart
01-17-2016, 11:45 PM
Well Pettis lost.

oats
01-18-2016, 12:12 AM
man, Pettis' wrestling is such a monumental flaw. Alvarez completely shut him down against the fence, dos Anjos would still clobber him. That being said, there's a lot of people who scored that for Pettis, close fight.

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:14 AM
Unghhh this match is fight porn!

Cruz's tank ain't what it used to be though

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:17 AM
Oats.. Obv not a pure boxer, but CRUZ vs Floyd would be stupid interesting or stupid boring, agree?

oats
01-18-2016, 12:18 AM
dude. Cruz' defense is beautiful. didn't think he'd be this sharp coming off injuries/layoff

oats
01-18-2016, 12:19 AM
Oats.. Obv not a pure boxer, but CRUZ vs Floyd would be stupid interesting or stupid boring, agree?

very much so. I lean toward interesting, but it would be boring in the sense that it would not have much in the way of offensive action

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:20 AM
dude. Cruz' defense is beautiful. didn't think he'd be this sharp coming off injuries/layoff

His pattern recognition and reaction time are pretty much hacks.

Fart
01-18-2016, 12:20 AM
Yeah but zero offense apart from takedowns

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:21 AM
Holy crap.. Goldie just said TJ has less than a 30% strike hit rate. One of the most active guys in the history of the UFC. That is insane.

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:23 AM
Yeah but zero offense apart from takedowns

Waiting him out til the champ rounds.

TJ is off his game now. It's working if Cruz's tank holds up, which is what I worry about. Punching out your opponent is only useful if you can take advantage afterward.

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:23 AM
Ohhhhhh tjs whizzer was sick

Fart
01-18-2016, 12:25 AM
I spoke too soon lol

oats
01-18-2016, 12:25 AM
this has been a beautiful fight, and I don't say that about fights often. the scrambles, the exchanges, everything.

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:26 AM
Cruz is to footwork what Marcelo is to guard retention.

Just not fair.

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:27 AM
this has been a beautiful fight, and I don't say that about fights often. the scrambles, the exchanges, everything.

Fight bonerrrrr

Amazing fight in the opposite way of Arlovski/Mir

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:29 AM
TJs whizzer again tho. So good.

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:30 AM
Herb Dean stupid strict on the fence grab. Odd.

Fart
01-18-2016, 12:32 AM
Tj obviously doing more damage. Cruz dances pretty tho

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:35 AM
Cruz needs to push pace and steal Rd. 5 due to champ voting tendencies.

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:36 AM
Dom getting sloppy.

TJ will get it due to champ status.

oats
01-18-2016, 12:38 AM
haha Arlovski Mir is among the worst fights I've ever seen. that gif of them bobbing their heads at each other is hilarious

Fart
01-18-2016, 12:38 AM
Man that's such a close fight I would be surprised if either guy won

oats
01-18-2016, 12:39 AM
TJ picked it up in championship rounds. Cruz got 2 and 3, rd. 1 is up for grabs tho. I score it 3-2 for Cruz but it was close as fuck

Fart
01-18-2016, 12:39 AM
Damn his leg is fucked

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:39 AM
haha Arlovski Mir is among the worst fights I've ever seen. that gif of them bobbing their heads at each other is hilarious

It's like The Room or Manos, so bad yet so good you secretly love it.

Uhoh legit thinks that's the best fight of all time lol

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:40 AM
TJ picked it up in championship rounds. Cruz got 2 and 3, rd. 1 is up for grabs tho. I score it 3-2 for Cruz but it was close as fuck

If you have the strap and win 4 and 5, any toss ups tend to go your way.

I think TJ keeps it.

Allen Knight
01-18-2016, 12:40 AM
good fight. i think cruz will get the dis

Allen Knight
01-18-2016, 12:41 AM
niceee.

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:41 AM
WHAT THE FUCK AT THAT SCORING

HOLY SHIT

REMATCH ASAP

Fart
01-18-2016, 12:41 AM
49 to 46 tho lol

Allen Knight
01-18-2016, 12:42 AM
lol, yea wtf.

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:43 AM
Rematch ASAP. Further proof boxing style scoring is garbage.

Fart
01-18-2016, 12:45 AM
Yeah cruz, those leg kicks didn't do anything to fuck your leg up...right

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:45 AM
LOOOOOOOOOOOL @ the Florian jab

jilti
01-18-2016, 12:50 AM
What is a whizzer?

Diode
01-18-2016, 12:53 AM
What is a whizzer?

Defensive overhook in a sprawl or back control attempt. Stops the shooting or sweeping guy from taking your base out. Can also then be used to reverse or transition to an offensive e position. Wrestlers are extremely adept at it.

The Dead Poet
01-18-2016, 12:55 AM
I had dillashaw winning that.

he cotrolled the center and pushed the pace. those cruz takedowns didnt amount to anything, tj got right back up immediately

jilti
01-18-2016, 12:55 AM
Defensive overhook in a sprawl or back control attempt. Stops the shooting or sweeping guy from taking your base out. Can also then be used to reverse or transition to an offensive e position. Wrestlers are extremely adept at it.

good expo

oats
01-18-2016, 01:18 AM
it's tough, not a robbery but I can see people saying Dillashaw won. I had Cruz with the first 3 rounds, Dillashaw with 4 and 5. Super close, though. both judges who had it 49-46 are dumb imo

oats
01-18-2016, 01:20 AM
I love that Cruz called out Florian. I legit lost respect for him because of that. Scrub move.

Diode
01-18-2016, 01:27 AM
Cruz's attitude is so obnoxious though. He's real life Dennis from Always Sunny. The desk interview he just gave on FS1 was so fucking childish.

oats
01-18-2016, 01:38 AM
Cruz's attitude is so obnoxious though. He's real life Dennis from Always Sunny. The desk interview he just gave on FS1 was so fucking childish.

I didn't see it cuz I have students now, but I don't doubt it. He's obnoxious, but at least he's honest about it. I prefer characters to librarians.

Pinot Grij
01-18-2016, 02:22 AM
Ayo. That decision is fucked. Cruz looked otherworldly with his defence - but you don't win a fight by dodging punches. I still think Dillashaw landed more significant shots even if at a lower percentage than usual for him - and the leg kicks and knees on the cage seemed to take a toll on Cruz. It was a close fight, but close in Dillashaw's favour almost completely. I have no idea how Cruz wins 4 rounds in this fight - I can easily see how he lost 4 rounds though. Them scorecards are fucked up - and I'm not buying that "it was just that close" shit. The UFC must really need a superstar pretty bad. And I say all this as a Cruz fan.

Bottom line. Cruz frustrated Dillashaw, but never really capitalized on it, imo.

Diode quaker oats break me off with some of that sensei shit.

oats
01-18-2016, 02:40 AM
here's how I took it. I gave first 3 to Cruz, last 2 to Dillashaw. How I saw it, most of Dillashaw's early strikes were not really landing. What I mean is, they were either blocked, or Cruz was moving away when they landed and they didn't do much. I think that changed in the championship rounds though. Cruz was pot-shotting well, and even though he's not a heavy hitter, he was landing the cleaner shots and dictating the pace of the fight, even as the non-aggressor. I just felt his counterpunching was more effective than Dillashaw's pressure fighting. Plus, he got the better of the few grappling exchanges.

That being said, I only watched it once, live. A lot of analysts whom I respect had it for Dillashaw, even as much as 49-46. But on my first watch, I felt like Cruz got the better of the exchanges. I'll def rewatch it once it's on FightPass and see how I feel about it. I do think it was close as fuck though. Too close to be considered a robbery.

uh-oh
01-18-2016, 07:44 AM
Rip meatheads orbital

ill nik-A
01-18-2016, 08:35 AM
Rip meatheads orbital

Yea that eye was crazy

Useless
01-18-2016, 10:34 PM
Tj got robbed.


Lol @ the leg kick didn't affect him, it was a previous foot injury. So what the leg kick just aggitated ur foot injury foh I can't stand Cruz.


I thought Pettis won too. And I'm an Alvarez fan, just not when he fights like that.

Fart
01-18-2016, 11:57 PM
How can you possibly think Pettis won lol

oats
01-19-2016, 05:55 AM
a lot of people thought Pettis won - including one of the judges. The swing round was that first round, where Alvarez pressed him against the fence for a lot of the time, but he didn't do any meaningful damage and Pettis cracked him with body shots every time he came in. Rd. 2 was clear Pettis, rd. 3 was clearly Alvarez and the most dominant round of the fight. It should have been 5 rounds tbh.

Useless
01-19-2016, 09:15 AM
Def shoulda been 5. I couldnt believe they were doing it as 3.

All Alvarez did was wall n stall in the first and second. He landed nothing meaningful and had no submission attempts. Pettis was hitting Alvarez quite a bit.

Fart
01-19-2016, 10:49 AM
Alvarez controlled the entire fight and didn't allow Pettis to do anything besides sone body shots. Completely took him out of the fight he wanted to fight. Clearly one sided.

ill nik-A
01-19-2016, 12:26 PM
Alvarez did nothing

Those weak little take downs

I'd never pay to watch that bore fight

Eŋg
01-19-2016, 02:48 PM
forcing a stalemate =/= controlling the fight.

push a man up against a fence and doing little else is hardly winning. i can see the decision for alvarez (i've seen worse), thought pettis won by a sliver.

also thought dillashaw edged cruz, and i say that with a clear cruz bias. i saw it as close, and thought the split would have to be dillashaw's with those scores but idk. would need to rewatch. cruz fought a great fight all things considered, mad respect.

The Dead Poet
01-21-2016, 07:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzxFgVYyMcE

Fart
01-22-2016, 02:04 AM
Yes it does when Pettis had zero answers for his wrestling. Casual fans