View Full Version : Fuck police.
Certain
07-07-2016, 01:54 AM
In Minneapolis, this time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDRSDvZxkPA
uh-oh
07-07-2016, 06:27 AM
whats the solution though? because we need police. disarming them? it isn't really feasible here because our populace is armed.
these are fucked up, espescially when we don't know any of the facts. like in this case for sure, this is the first im seeing it. but it aint recording until he is already shot.
and the alton sterling one in both videos you don't see what led up to it, and you can't see if he is reaching
either way both could be proven to be excessive for sure
its just maddening because what course of action can actually be taken?
also i hate the fact my brain plays the contrarian constantly lol. but its like you see people on facebook and twitter, granted i havent seen anything about this one, just the alton sterling one, posting gun laws in louisiana like you don't need to be licensed/have a permit to own a gun, but they ignore the fact that the guy was a felon, so he isn't legally allowed to own one, permitted or not. then they blame the media like OH well why you putting his record out there!!! it doesn't matter he was murdered! and dumbass memes like man killed by police, police record put online, white man rapes girl, swimtimes put online. white kid didnt have a record lol wtf
but yea its all a shame. i have no answers to any of it. this one could clearly be way worse than the alton sterling one, because if even its remotely close to the story the woman is saying than thats a bad one, unavoidable by the person killed. he wouldve followed the letter of the law, letting the officer know he was licensed and it was on him etc, where as alton sterling may not have deserved to be shot, he was still a felon carrying a firearm which is illegal, and he was resisting arrest.
whats the answer to all this?
uh-oh that's a legitimate question, and I don't think anyone is under the illusion that there's a simple fix to police brutality. I'm by no means an expert, but one thing I've noticed is that the best interactions I've had with cops is when they are actually from the community they're policing. they have greater investment into the wellbeing of the populace than some war vet who gets placed at some random county and may or may not give two shits about the community. having more community outreach efforts in general wouldn't hurt, either. it's hard to see people as the enemy - which POs often do - when you actually know them (or people like them).
how to incentivize people to become police officers in their home towns is open to discussion and debate, but I think that's a really good start. word on the contrarian bit, though. I find myself despising a lot of people who share common values with me because of their social media emphasis on social injustices. like dude, blowing up my timeline with memes doesn't make you an activist.
https://twitter.com/lizcollin/status/750931755004145666
ban white people from being cops
Ha!
Chill Phil
07-07-2016, 08:45 AM
whats the solution though? because we need police. disarming them? it isn't really feasible here because our populace is armed.
these are fucked up, espescially when we don't know any of the facts. like in this case for sure, this is the first im seeing it. but it aint recording until he is already shot.
and the alton sterling one in both videos you don't see what led up to it, and you can't see if he is reaching
either way both could be proven to be excessive for sure
its just maddening because what course of action can actually be taken?
also i hate the fact my brain plays the contrarian constantly lol. but its like you see people on facebook and twitter, granted i havent seen anything about this one, just the alton sterling one, posting gun laws in louisiana like you don't need to be licensed/have a permit to own a gun, but they ignore the fact that the guy was a felon, so he isn't legally allowed to own one, permitted or not. then they blame the media like OH well why you putting his record out there!!! it doesn't matter he was murdered! and dumbass memes like man killed by police, police record put online, white man rapes girl, swimtimes put online. white kid didnt have a record lol wtf
but yea its all a shame. i have no answers to any of it. this one could clearly be way worse than the alton sterling one, because if even its remotely close to the story the woman is saying than thats a bad one, unavoidable by the person killed. he wouldve followed the letter of the law, letting the officer know he was licensed and it was on him etc, where as alton sterling may not have deserved to be shot, he was still a felon carrying a firearm which is illegal, and he was resisting arrest.
whats the answer to all this?
I saw the Alton Sterling videos, and like all the other videos, all I can see are the results of a reaction made by a person or persons who are terrified or greatly agitated. These cops are overreacting because they're scared/angry, and have held onto that fear or anger so long it finally erupted at the worst possible time. Of course those cops need to be tried for murder, as they would try me if I'd done what they did. But, what really REALLY needs to be done though, is getting a really massive amount of competent psychiatric doctors on-site at all police departments, and help these guys deal with their issues BEFORE they go viral for snapping and contributing to the Helter Skelter the media wants us to believe is occurring. We see soldiers and Marines come back from war...snap and then kill someone and/or themselves; something tells me a lot of cops are suffering from similar neurological conditions and because it's "just their job," they're not dealing with caustic dilemmas within them. Again...that was definitely murder, and though I don't understand why it happened, I do understand that there's probably a long list of reasons why, which was certainly years in the making.
Mike Wrecka
07-07-2016, 10:47 AM
As a New Yorker the idea that regular people can legally carry guns on their waist is very foreign to me. Here you need a real legitimate reason like being a security guard or something along those lines. Ive actually never seen or heard of someone legally carrying a hand gun in public. I think people should have as many firearms as they want inside their home but once you bring them out into the community it's a recipe for disaster if you ask me.
Dude wanted to live by the gun. He died by the gun. Facts
Certain
07-07-2016, 11:15 AM
As a New Yorker the idea that regular people can legally carry guns on their waist is very foreign to me. Here you need a real legitimate reason like being a security guard or something along those lines. Ive actually never seen or heard of someone legally carrying a hand gun in public. I think people should have as many firearms as they want inside their home but once you bring them out into the community it's a recipe for disaster if you ask me.
Dude wanted to live by the gun. He died by the gun. Facts
Licensed concealed carry is legal in New York.
Diode
07-07-2016, 11:16 AM
Dude wanted to live by the gun. He died by the gun. Facts
Daily reminder that you're a fucking moron.
Certain
07-07-2016, 11:28 AM
whats the solution though? because we need police. disarming them? it isn't really feasible here because our populace is armed.
these are fucked up, espescially when we don't know any of the facts. like in this case for sure, this is the first im seeing it. but it aint recording until he is already shot.
It speaks volumes that the policeman is clearly freaking out and not at all denying what the woman says. It's the voice of someone who realizes they made a mistake. Obviously, this is circumstantial. My guess is that when Philando Castile told the police officer that he was carrying, the police officer immediately pulled his gun and became worried. Even though Castile did exactly what he was expected to do.
and the alton sterling one in both videos you don't see what led up to it, and you can't see if he is reaching
You actually do see exactly what happened before the shooting in the first video. Sterling was tasered, fell to the ground with two policemen holding guns on him and continued shaking ... because he was tasered.
Mike Wrecka
07-07-2016, 12:59 PM
Licensed concealed carry is legal in New York.
Very difficult to get licensed concealed.
Licensed concealed carry is legal in New York.
It is, but a lot harder to obtain if you live in NYC (Any of the 5 Boroughs). Outside of the city, it isn't THAT hard to get.
State Police are even out of Jurisdiction in NYC and they are NYS/New York STATE Police!
Certain
07-07-2016, 01:08 PM
Diode, please ban Trademark.
PancakeBrah
07-07-2016, 01:30 PM
The store security cam footage of the Alton shooting is pretty damn conclusive. They murdered that man. No two ways about it.
Blanco Bishop
07-07-2016, 02:40 PM
Honestly whats more concerning is that this broad is relatively non chalant about the whole thing. She's more concerned with taking the video then actually getting her man medical aid.
Chyeahhh!!!
07-07-2016, 02:49 PM
dude she recorded everything and could not tend to him because there was a weapon in the car and had she moved she could have been deemed a threat and could have been fired upon, that's why she remained super calm. Cop was shaking and shit, he was distraught. she was smart
Certain
07-07-2016, 02:54 PM
Not often that we get to say this, but Chyeahhh!!! is correct.
Split Eight
07-07-2016, 02:57 PM
I swear to god if I see one more #BlueLivesMatter post I'm going to fling my car into a ravine
Fair warning, I'm drunk. But
I find it hilarious in the "I don't know what else to do so I laugh" kind of way that the same people sayin fuck the FBI and the justice department cuz of Hillary's emails are adamantly condemning people who say fuck cops for killing civilians. What a world, man. but rest assured there are always those who are eager to defend the empowered and speak up for those whose voices echo through loudspeakers. I hate Facebook, all it does is reveal to me the people in my life who subscribe to a worldview that I find repulsive and idiotic. Anyway I'm gonna go to bed and wake up to watch people punch each other. It's a fitting distraction and somehow it helps.
Ghost1
07-07-2016, 08:05 PM
Fair warning, I'm drunk. But
I find it hilarious in the "I don't know what else to do so I laugh" kind of way that the same people sayin fuck the FBI and the justice department cuz of Hillary's emails are adamantly condemning people who say fuck cops for killing civilians. What a world, man. but rest assured there are always those who are eager to defend the empowered and speak up for those whose voices echo through loudspeakers. I hate Facebook, all it does is reveal to me the people in my life who subscribe to a worldview that I find repulsive and idiotic. Anyway I'm gonna go to bed and wake up to watch people punch each other. It's a fitting distraction and somehow it helps.
Hey u little bitch did u write my fucking text battler article? I shit that pm out on 3 hrs sleep. Show sum class oatmeal. For crying out loud.
Hey u little bitch did u write my fucking text battler article? I shit that pm out on 3 hrs sleep. Show sum class oatmeal. For crying out loud.
dead man
I'm planning on writing it while on vacation next week.
PancakeBrah
07-07-2016, 11:18 PM
Two police shot at BLM protest in Dallas.
big baby
07-07-2016, 11:36 PM
y were they in dull boy
uh-oh
07-08-2016, 03:26 AM
5 cops dead. not sure if its still going on or not.
fuck police though, right ?
black people on facebook hashtagging "blackmilitia" and fist emoji's
smh
Witty
07-08-2016, 06:04 AM
It was always going to get to this point...RIP to the cops killed.
It was to be expected, policing will never work while the community are afraid of the police and the police are afraid of the community...you need people from within those communities to police them...people who are known and trusted by both law enforcement and civilians...until a point is reached when members of the community no longer feel opressed rather than protected this problem will only get worse.
Just an outsiders perspective.
~RustyGunZ~
07-08-2016, 06:39 AM
Blm are a bunch of thugs making things worse for black lives
Certain
07-08-2016, 07:27 AM
5 cops dead. not sure if its still going on or not.
fuck police though, right ?
black people on facebook hashtagging "blackmilitia" and fist emoji's
smh
Hey, I don't like anyone who kills people. It just so happens that police officers kill a whole lot more people than snipers.
Fuck snipers, too, though.
TYSON
07-08-2016, 08:13 AM
Blm are a bunch of thugs making things worse for black lives
Blm has been working hand and hand with the police of Dallas. This was not a blm shooting this was a more extreme group looking to use a protest as a ambush. This shot is getting out of hand. All my family is out there and I don't know what they are going to be wrapped up in in the later days because of anger and confusion.
~RustyGunZ~
07-08-2016, 08:19 AM
Keep telling yourself that
There are always good and bad people in every movement but as a whole blm is looking like the new Nazis
TYSON
07-08-2016, 08:23 AM
And the cops that's freely killing unarmed men ain't? If you gonna give your opinion be sure to be able to see all sides of the spectrum
veritas
07-08-2016, 08:24 AM
I have much to say about this.
Wake up.
TYSON
07-08-2016, 08:25 AM
im not an activist but to sit and point your finger at one extreme of the situation and not the other is bigotry
veritas
07-08-2016, 08:29 AM
The murdering cops as well as the cop murderers are part of the grand evil design. Eventually it would come down to the chicken and egg scenario we have now which causes cognitive dissonance which makes us easier to control.
Furthermore, this will also enflame the racial divide gUn control and militarized police/martial law agendas.
Wake up. Love good people hate evil ones. Regardless of their color.
I have much to say about this.
veritas
07-08-2016, 08:31 AM
im not an activist but to sit and point your finger at one extreme of the situation and not the other is bigotry
I was not Tyson. Unless this wasn't for me.
TYSON
07-08-2016, 08:31 AM
All of it is fucking ridiculous!
TYSON
07-08-2016, 08:31 AM
I was not Tyson. Unless this wasn't for me.
Not you. You are good bro
veritas
07-08-2016, 08:37 AM
Fe sir.
We need to see the big picture here. The *sniper* who killed himself said *the end is near*.
This is all part of the plan to enslave us.
Wake up.
TYSON
07-08-2016, 09:11 AM
He said he was acting alone but I doubt it. Just so we clear I do not support killing of cops. If you gonna kill a cop why not go after the ones who are actually guilty of killing unarmed black men stop being stupid and grouping together the actions of a few to justify killing innocent cops. That's the big problem that is going on in a America. Everybody is going off the actions of a few to fuel their outlook of the majority. That's blacks, whites, Latinos, cops and even people of the Muslim faith. That's the real problem because it fuels this type of behavior.
~RustyGunZ~
07-08-2016, 09:13 AM
There are bad cops
There are bad black people
No group of good people should be killed because of bad people that align with their belief/race/occupation
Destroyer
07-08-2016, 09:23 AM
The murdering cops as well as the cop murderers are part of the grand evil design. Eventually it would come down to the chicken and egg scenario we have now which causes cognitive dissonance which makes us easier to control.
Furthermore, this will also enflame the racial divide gUn control and militarized police/martial law agendas.
Wake up. Love good people hate evil ones. Regardless of their color.
I have much to say about this.
Hate evil ones? Where did jesus say that, V?
veritas
07-08-2016, 09:25 AM
They want us divided, unarmed, and dominated.
See the big picture.
All it will take is for 4 or 5 of these events to happen at one time and it will be martial law.
See?
veritas
07-08-2016, 09:26 AM
Hate evil ones? Where did jesus say that, V?
So you want to know if Jesus hated anyone? Let alone evil?
This is so obvious folks. Its the push towards gov. verse the people. Enter fema.
@chyeahhh
They want us divided, unarmed, and dominated.
See the big picture.
All it will take is for 4 or 5 of these events to happen at one time and it will be martial law.
See?
This.. pretty much.
veritas
07-08-2016, 09:36 AM
Romans 12:9
Letlove be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
Psalm 97 10
10Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
And here is jesus saying he hates the nicolatieans....revelation 2:6
But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
I could cite tons more.....but you won't listen. You won't see. Your foolishness knows no limits. I pray for you.
veritas
07-08-2016, 09:37 AM
Thanks for seeing Geno. Word.
Witty
07-08-2016, 10:15 AM
The murdering cops as well as the cop murderers are part of the grand evil design. Eventually it would come down to the chicken and egg scenario we have now which causes cognitive dissonance which makes us easier to control.
Furthermore, this will also enflame the racial divide gUn control and militarized police/martial law agendas.
Wake up. Love good people hate evil ones. Regardless of their color.
I have much to say about this.
Lots of truth here.
Will rep when not mobile.
Witty
07-08-2016, 10:16 AM
So you want to know if Jesus hated anyone? Let alone evil?
Righteous hatred...yes?
Destroyer
07-08-2016, 10:17 AM
Romans 12:9
Letlove be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
Psalm 97 10
10Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
And here is jesus saying he hates the nicolatieans....revelation 2:6
But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
I could cite tons more.....but you won't listen. You won't see. Your foolishness knows no limits. I pray for you.
Jesus was in the old testament? Oh ok
share the quote where jesus tells you to hate, moron
Diode
07-08-2016, 10:20 AM
Jesus was in the old testament? Oh ok
share the quote where jesus tells you to hate, moron
lol this
TYSON
07-08-2016, 10:20 AM
I agree with destroyer Jesus was the very opposite of hate.
TYSON
07-08-2016, 10:20 AM
I guarantee the government is watching this convo....
veritas
07-08-2016, 10:28 AM
So you missed the revelation verse jude?
veritas
07-08-2016, 10:28 AM
Dead at how you don't even read my posts.
Diode
07-08-2016, 10:46 AM
So you missed the revelation verse jude?
Other than the fact that Revelations was tacked on a long while after the original ending, please provide quote and verse in which your messiah advocates hatred.
Destroyer
07-08-2016, 10:47 AM
Other than the fact that Revelations was tacked on a long while after the original ending, please provide quote and verse in which your messiah advocates hatred.
Lol this
veritas
07-08-2016, 11:00 AM
So I give you a verse and you say it doesn't count lol. You are a fool as well. You are blind. Your ego is your god and it is nothing more than a false idol.
You err in the scriptures. This is what always ends up happening. Do you want to go ahead and skip to the part where you ban me, diode?
veritas
07-08-2016, 11:03 AM
Love good and hate evil is morally right and a common sense approach.
Jude....do you love evil?
Are you happy innocent people white and black were murdered? How about you diode? Do we not all three agree in this matter?
Evil means to purposefully hurt. How much more so the innocent?
Are we all not in agreement? Or are you advocating that it was good that those two men and those cops were murdered?
Diode
07-08-2016, 11:03 AM
So I give you a verse and you say it doesn't count lol. You are a fool as well. You are blind. Your ego is your god and it is nothing more than a false idol.
You err in the scriptures. This is what always ends up happening. Do you want to go ahead and skip to the part where you ban me, diode?
Fun fact:
I've never banned you.
How's that for a revelation!!??!
veritas
07-08-2016, 11:04 AM
Are you for the murder of innocents? Or do you agree that we should love good and hate evil?
veritas
07-08-2016, 11:04 AM
I meant jail me. Semantics.
Chyeahhh!!!
07-08-2016, 11:42 AM
This is so obvious folks. Its the push towards gov. verse the people. Enter fema.
@chyeahhh
somewhat, always a bigger picture tho. Think if this were a distraction. Being this distraction is at the cost of human lives, the thing they're distracting us from would have to be pretty damn big.
There will be no election
veritas
07-08-2016, 11:57 AM
Elab on no election.
Destroyer
07-08-2016, 11:59 AM
What i or you believe isnt relevant in the argument, V
You were challenged to provide scripture verse in which jesus advocates hatred.
Still waiting to see that...
Witty
07-08-2016, 11:59 AM
I should say tho that I believe BLM to be an important movement...of course it will attract extremists and it's up to the real members to stand up to them...it may be a cliche and it may seem like a rose tinted view but violence really isn't the answer to violence.
King Karaoke
07-08-2016, 12:07 PM
Keep telling yourself that
There are always good and bad people in every movement but as a whole blm is looking like the new Nazis
Imaginary ivy league schools must have horrible curriculum
veritas
07-08-2016, 12:14 PM
What i or you believe isnt relevant in the argument, V
You were challenged to provide scripture verse in which jesus advocates hatred.
Still waiting to see that...
Wrong. I made a point which you turned into a nonsensical belief system game. I played it aND gave you proof. Which you didn't see nc you didn't even read it lol.
Now then....accept that you lost that stage. Moving on:
The statement love good people and hate evil people....do you agree with that or not?
NYCSPITZ
07-08-2016, 12:14 PM
Imaginary ivy league schools must have horrible curriculum
lol
NYCSPITZ
07-08-2016, 12:15 PM
What i or you believe isnt relevant in the argument, V
You were challenged to provide scripture verse in which jesus advocates hatred.
Still waiting to see that...
lmao!!!! Ve3ritas loses!!!!
~RustyGunZ~
07-08-2016, 12:17 PM
Imaginary ivy league schools must have horrible curriculum
Go back in your hole demon
veritas
07-08-2016, 12:35 PM
Wrong. I made a point which you turned into a nonsensical belief system game. I played it aND gave you proof. Which you didn't see nc you didn't even read it lol.
Now then....accept that you lost that stage. Moving on:
The statement love good people and hate evil people....do you agree with that or not?
veritas
07-08-2016, 12:39 PM
lmao!!!! Ve3ritas loses!!!!
Oh what's up, stan?
uh-oh
07-08-2016, 12:40 PM
Hey, I don't like anyone who kills people. It just so happens that police officers kill a whole lot more people than snipers.
Fuck snipers, too, though.
You are above this type of logic. It'd be like me responding to you by saying, black people kill more people than police, and forming it into a metaphor to prove you wrong without saying it outright to sound like i mean it.
But obviously were all intelligent enough to know the common sense stuff being said in this thread involving good/bad people in all groups. Which is why a blanket statement like fuck police is out of order.
NYCSPITZ
07-08-2016, 12:46 PM
Oh what's up, stan?
LOL hi dumbass!!! Omg I'm ur stan l-ll0l0l0l0l0l0l
Ego!!!
veritas
07-08-2016, 12:58 PM
You are above this type of logic. It'd be like me responding to you by saying, black people kill more people than police, and forming it into a metaphor to prove you wrong without saying it outright to sound like i mean it.
But obviously were all intelligent enough to know the common sense stuff being said in this thread involving good/bad people in all groups. Which is why a blanket statement like fuck police is out of order.
A solid retort for uhoh.
veritas
07-08-2016, 12:59 PM
LOL hi dumbass!!! Omg I'm ur stan l-ll0l0l0l0l0l0l
Ego!!!
Lol oh so lol so stan lol
PancakeBrah
07-08-2016, 01:01 PM
Holy shit @ blm as new nazis.
Fucking wew, lad. Might need to take a breather.
NYCSPITZ
07-08-2016, 01:04 PM
Lol oh so lol so stan lol
EGO
veritas
07-08-2016, 01:07 PM
When your whole boarding prescription is to only say what a guy says to others....you a clone.
veritas
07-08-2016, 01:11 PM
I wouldn't call the blm nazis. I would say that they are unintentionally spawning the exact thing they are supposed to be chamoons against....violent racists.
Perhaps the violent racists is where he drew the comparison?
NYCSPITZ
07-08-2016, 01:12 PM
Yo U A CLONE FAM
I'M A LOW IQ REDNECK FAGGOT I USE HIP HOP LINGO I'M A WALKING PARADOX
YOUS A CLONE *BUMPS 8 MILE TO THERAPY SESSION TO CONSOLE INCEST PERSON*
YOU A CLONE
PRESCRIPTION LOL YTO I'M SMART FAMZ I LUV HIP HOP BIBLE BELT HOMIE I'M NOT A REDNECK
TYSON
07-08-2016, 01:26 PM
I wouldn't call the blm nazis. I would say that they are unintentionally spawning the exact thing they are supposed to be chamoons against....violent racists.
Perhaps the violent racists is where he drew the comparison?
Which strengthens my point of a few symbolizing the majority. Don't worry I preach this exact point to my black people too.
veritas
07-08-2016, 01:42 PM
That's cool. Well done.
We got to realize the agendas.....we have to come together. Good people. Not juse talj about politically correct bull crap. People are dying.
veritas
07-08-2016, 01:43 PM
Yo U A CLONE FAM
I'M A LOW IQ REDNECK FAGGOT I USE HIP HOP LINGO I'M A WALKING PARADOX
YOUS A CLONE *BUMPS 8 MILE TO THERAPY SESSION TO CONSOLE INCEST PERSON*
YOU A CLONE
PRESCRIPTION LOL YTO I'M SMART FAMZ I LUV HIP HOP BIBLE BELT HOMIE I'M NOT A REDNECK
Now you are acting like a clone of multiple boarders. Which is paradoxically better and worse simultaneously. I would explain the paradox but you are both too stoopid to grasp it as well as being in love with me which is gay and weird.
~RustyGunZ~
07-08-2016, 01:53 PM
I stand by my statement
I already said that no one group should be killed for the actions of a few but those few want all whites and cops to die
Even reasonable people I know are posting violent and hateful things about the police because of the action of a few and spreading evil agendas
veritas
07-08-2016, 01:57 PM
Evil = to purposefully harm
Evil people use good causes to promote their agenda. Look at the Catholic church charging Indulgences, or the Inquisition. Look at isis. Look at politicians turning dead bodies into gun control. Fair?
Diode
07-08-2016, 01:57 PM
where's the quote from jesus tho
still waiting
NYCSPITZ
07-08-2016, 01:59 PM
Jesus will save us all I swear it's not cuz I'm a fat idiot born in the bible belt and can't think 4 mys3lf so I adopted the beliefs of my region I swear every1 Jesus gonna save us he built an ark that was 50,000 miles long and there was a cabin for each animal L00000000000L 5 illion species brah I got this I'm smart so I believe this lololol
veritas
07-08-2016, 02:00 PM
Already quoted it. Just because you choose to say what counts or not does not negate it. You are now just being a fool for fools sake.
Where is my answer to if you are for against loving good people and hating evil people?
veritas
07-08-2016, 02:01 PM
So it seems like once again I get to main event a thread where I take on uneven odds and win.
NYC you sound drunk off of butthurt. Put the feelz down.
veritas
07-08-2016, 02:02 PM
Dead at you saying I can't think for myself when you used diodes play of calling me fat which he only started in response to me calling him fat. You are all wrong and not a challenge.
NYCSPITZ
07-08-2016, 02:03 PM
nah yo i'm drunk off the mississippi moonshine they got on my ark. I found it next to the amoeba cabin on level 7,993,221 of my ark man. It's about to rain i suggest u buy some umbrellas cuz this is gonna be katrina x 8 trillion. Since this is feasible holler @ some yuenling from da likor store I like it more
~RustyGunZ~
07-08-2016, 02:13 PM
NYC and veritas are the reason this hate is growing
TYSON
07-08-2016, 02:14 PM
I stand by my statement
I already said that no one group should be killed for the actions of a few but those few want all whites and cops to die
Even reasonable people I know are posting violent and hateful things about the police because of the action of a few and spreading evil agendas
Don't forget the shooting at the North Carolina church. I'm pretty sure his group and his affiliations gave him ample support.
TYSON
07-08-2016, 02:16 PM
Just so you know I am not backing them just giving perspective on a problem that needs to be fixed in this country. And showing the flaws fall on multiple fronts
~RustyGunZ~
07-08-2016, 02:19 PM
I also never said I was against fighting violence with violence it just needs to be done right
Not killing random innocent cops with families and such but a revolution against the state is key. But race needs to stop keeping tge people from fighting the real enemy
Charles Manson called this
veritas
07-08-2016, 03:13 PM
Yes. We have to come together and have honest dialogue. We have to be able to take the results of it into our communities as an antidote to the agendas poison.
Witty
07-08-2016, 04:17 PM
where's the quote from jesus tho
still waiting
Tha Pastor Reach Yeah
07-08-2016, 04:19 PM
where's the quote from jesus tho
still waiting
O rly.
Witty
07-08-2016, 04:19 PM
where's the quote from jesus tho
still waiting
I'm surprised you're pushing this tbh I have openly disagreed with veritas on many occasions but he seems on the money to me itt I would have thought you'd have a similar outlook.
Tha Pastor Reach Yeah
07-08-2016, 04:21 PM
I'm surprised you're pushing this tbh I have openly disagreed with veritas on many occasions but he seems on the money to me itt I would have thought you'd have a similar outlook.
Diode knows nothing. NOTHING I tell you.
Witty
07-08-2016, 04:21 PM
Stupid fucking phone.
That first quote was unintentional.
Diode
07-08-2016, 04:22 PM
O rly.
rly
looking for jesus quotes preaching hate
it's cool, take your time.
Tha Pastor Reach Yeah
07-08-2016, 04:25 PM
Ok I think I need to read the whole convo but I don't want to so I'll go along with what you say.
Witty
07-08-2016, 04:26 PM
Diode knows nothing. NOTHING I tell you.
I mean, he probably makes triple what I do in a year...so I doubt that.
Only little babies know nothing...not big baby because he is a big baby, not a little one.
Diode
07-08-2016, 04:27 PM
I mean, he probably makes triple what I do in a year...so I doubt that.
Only little babies know nothing...not big baby because he is a big baby, not a little one.
bb da bb
witty da fox
it is known
Diode
07-08-2016, 04:28 PM
11 police killed, 4 dead.
you want to try that again y/n
Tha Pastor Reach Yeah
07-08-2016, 04:28 PM
I mean, he probably makes triple what I do in a year...so I doubt that.
Only little babies know nothing...not big baby because he is a big baby, not a little one.
You're joking right? The last little baby I saw winked at me and gave me a kind of thumbs up so I'm guessing that little babies know A LOT.
PancakeBrah
07-08-2016, 06:48 PM
Not to derail but Zelph is legit the unfunniest human I've ever seen. And I know what he's trying to do. Just fucking terrible at it.
Witty
07-08-2016, 07:18 PM
Not to derail but Zelph is legit the unfunniest human I've ever seen. And I know what he's trying to do. Just fucking terrible at it.
Wanna do a half assed topical collab which will probably never happen?
PancakeBrah
07-08-2016, 07:37 PM
Sure
Blanco Bishop
07-08-2016, 08:42 PM
Alex Jones is looking looking real prophetic right about now.
Mike Wrecka
07-09-2016, 12:17 AM
http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t570/mikewrecka247/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshdhjpeve.jpeg (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/mikewrecka247/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshdhjpeve.jpeg.html)
There's Alton Sterling
Clearly a father of the year candidate and an obv pillar of the community.
Passing on thug life to his lil nig and hoe (son and daughter)
Wanna be a gangsta and reach towards a gun when a cop tells you not to move. Get shot.
Why is this a problem?
Diode
07-09-2016, 12:22 AM
http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t570/mikewrecka247/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshdhjpeve.jpeg (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/mikewrecka247/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshdhjpeve.jpeg.html)
There's Alton Sterling
Clearly a father of the year candidate and an obv pillar of the community.
Passing on thug life to his lil nig and hoe (son and daughter)
Wanna be a gangsta and reach towards a gun when a cop tells you not to move. Get shot.
Why is this a problem?
Yawn.
Doesn't deserve to die over doing nothing but selling CDs.
It's not for police to decide if he should die, sorry breh. Try again?
Reaching towards a gun? Did you just blatantly ignore the second video y/n?
Dumb as fuck. Daily reminder. Two days running! Congrats.
Zinc 2 Yourself
07-09-2016, 01:03 AM
Mike wrecka you're a fuckin idiot
Clearly the cop had the hands in crol
I agree with diode $100%
~RustyGunZ~
07-09-2016, 01:58 AM
Idk man it's tricky
Junto
07-09-2016, 03:50 AM
it's all misdirection
Witty
07-09-2016, 09:31 AM
http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t570/mikewrecka247/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshdhjpeve.jpeg (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/mikewrecka247/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshdhjpeve.jpeg.html)
There's Alton Sterling
Clearly a father of the year candidate and an obv pillar of the community.
Passing on thug life to his lil nig and hoe (son and daughter)
Wanna be a gangsta and reach towards a gun when a cop tells you not to move. Get shot.
Why is this a problem?
You're a fucking moron.
TYSON
07-09-2016, 10:24 AM
Fair warning, I'm drunk. But
I find it hilarious in the "I don't know what else to do so I laugh" kind of way that the same people sayin fuck the FBI and the justice department cuz of Hillary's emails are adamantly condemning people who say fuck cops for killing civilians. What a world, man. but rest assured there are always those who are eager to defend the empowered and speak up for those whose voices echo through loudspeakers. I hate Facebook, all it does is reveal to me the people in my life who subscribe to a worldview that I find repulsive and idiotic. Anyway I'm gonna go to bed and wake up to watch people punch each other. It's a fitting distraction and somehow it helps.
MMMy nigga...
Certain
07-09-2016, 11:50 AM
http://i.imgur.com/OBh4Zkq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jDLrQWm.png
http://i.imgur.com/qulhsDS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gO0xDn8.jpg
Chyeahhh!!!
07-09-2016, 12:05 PM
you have certainly achieved this rep Certain
uh-oh
07-09-2016, 02:28 PM
when we talk about the second video, we're talking about the one the store owner took correct? i seen cake mention surveillance footage earlier but i haven't seen that, think it was referring to this.
you can't see what his right hand is doing, stop it. im not saying it was doing something worthy of shots to the chest, but i feel you guys are letting your emotions cloud your judgements. certains talking about him shaking i don't see that either, he's not being tazed while they are on him, they would effectively be tazing themselves because they are on him. electricity 101 guys. he is struggling, and again you dont see his right hand, after the shots when they are off him they immediately go in his right pocket, i don't see them pull out a gun, but the store owner also reiterated he had a gun.
all i'm saying is there is no video evidence of him not reaching into his pockets with his right hand, we can't see his right hand, we don't know what it was doing.
try and remove your emotions from your arguments
we all know if anything i'd be on sterlings side as people like bags like to point out i'm a white black loving "uncle tom". i have no real love for cops. i just happen to be somewhat of an emotionless sociopath if its people i don't know and haven't met. i can look at it like its not real life and remove myself and my feelings from it and try and look at it like that.
if there is footage i havent seen i'd be interested in seeing it. and again i'm not saying the police were in the right to open up on him, but please don't claim you see him not reaching when you literally cannot see if he is reaching or not.
There is 2 videos of the Sterling incident.
1 - where you can see everything, until shots are fired and the phone is kind of tucked, due to the person recording probably ducked when the shots were fired and the - 2nd video behind the car - he was slammed on the ground and again, the video cuts out a split second before the shooting because the person moved and tucked immediately after the shots were fired.
PancakeBrah
07-09-2016, 03:55 PM
when we talk about the second video, we're talking about the one the store owner took correct? i seen cake mention surveillance footage earlier but i haven't seen that, think it was referring to this.
you can't see what his right hand is doing, stop it. im not saying it was doing something worthy of shots to the chest, but i feel you guys are letting your emotions cloud your judgements. certains talking about him shaking i don't see that either, he's not being tazed while they are on him, they would effectively be tazing themselves because they are on him. electricity 101 guys. he is struggling, and again you dont see his right hand, after the shots when they are off him they immediately go in his right pocket, i don't see them pull out a gun, but the store owner also reiterated he had a gun.
all i'm saying is there is no video evidence of him not reaching into his pockets with his right hand, we can't see his right hand, we don't know what it was doing.
try and remove your emotions from your arguments
we all know if anything i'd be on sterlings side as people like bags like to point out i'm a white black loving "uncle tom". i have no real love for cops. i just happen to be somewhat of an emotionless sociopath if its people i don't know and haven't met. i can look at it like its not real life and remove myself and my feelings from it and try and look at it like that.
if there is footage i havent seen i'd be interested in seeing it. and again i'm not saying the police were in the right to open up on him, but please don't claim you see him not reaching when you literally cannot see if he is reaching or not.
You're either blind or dumb.
veritas
07-09-2016, 04:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GjFOW_UuJg
uh-oh
07-09-2016, 06:26 PM
You're either blind or dumb.
i must be dumb brah.
i just watched it again, you see his left arm pinned, his right arm is being wrestled with and you can't see his hand, he's very clearly moving that arm, but what he's doing hand wise is out of the picture, shots ring, when the camera gets back on them, he's bloody, and a cop goes in his pocket and grabs something, i can't tell from the vid but it could be a little pistol like its been reported.
thats what i can see. maybe with your superior vision and intellect you see him putting his hands behind his back and them pulling a comb out of his pocket.
The old "but what's his right hand doing, huh?!" Well, there are two dudes on top of him, tasering him with a gun in his face, his left hand is underneath a knee and it's cocked upwards in a clear motion of surrender, his back is flat and hips are not moving - but sure, we can't see his right hand so maybe he was reaching for his gun. Ok.
The mental gymnastics required to justify this cop behavior are incredible. Just count the seconds between "move and I swear to god I'll shoot!" and them actually shooting him. And remember all the details above. It's plain as day unless you think he's the craftiest, most sinister person alive.
Anyway, face punch time.
uh-oh
07-09-2016, 06:38 PM
The old "but what's his right hand doing, huh?!" Well, there are two dudes on top of him, tasering him with a gun in his face, his left hand is underneath a knee and it's cocked upwards in a clear motion of surrender, his back is flat and hips are not moving - but sure, we can't see his right hand so maybe he was reaching for his gun. Ok.
The mental gymnastics required to justify this cop behavior are incredible. Just count the seconds between "move and I swear to god I'll shoot!" and them actually shooting him. And remember all the details above. It's plain as day unless you think he's the craftiest, most sinister person alive.
Anyway, face punch time.
1, he's not being tasered while they are on him.
2, i've said i'm not justifying the cops behavior
i'm simply pointing out that people are ignoring the fact that the guy could be reaching into his pockets with his right hand. alot of you guys are throwing that out the window like its an impossibility.
thats literally all i'm saying, we can't see it, but yet i get responses like "your blind"
yall got magical sight that allows you to see through things i guess.
Certain
07-09-2016, 06:47 PM
Have you seen someone be tasered, uh-oh? I have, once. The guy did not stop twitching for at least a couple minutes after they had stopped.
Junto
07-09-2016, 07:39 PM
uh-oh
you disgust me
either the best troll to date or your brain is just a worthless puddle of noodles
Allen Knight
07-09-2016, 07:47 PM
Lol.
big baby
07-09-2016, 07:59 PM
y u idiyotes surispise? he frum ohio no tetef and untrimmed beard jesu fua ucka christ stoopid lmao
I SO OFFENDED
y? he redneck duh lmao
OH UHHOH HOW COUD U ?? NEVER KNEW U WERE LIKE TIHS....................NOT LKE UR IDIOCIY AND TRUMPONIAN RHETORIC ISNT RECORDED HERE AT EVERY EFFORT AND CHECKPOINT..BUT WOW U REALLY THINK THER WAS JSUTIFICATION IN THAT?!?! HOW?!?! HOW COULD U THINK THAT?!!!!!!!!!!!?!
*uh oh earlier this month/week/year*
BUYING A THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR GUN WITH MY INCOME TAX MONEY AND NOT PAYING RENT TIHS MONTH
lmqo! wow
Witty
07-09-2016, 07:59 PM
Uh-Oh is not dumb at all, he questions things, and I respect that about him...I think he reaches the wrong conclusion at times, but tbh a lot of that comes from living a different life, forming a different outlook on the world.
I'm disappointed at how America deals with these issues, I see America as the greatest country in the world, but when it comes to social issues, you guys are so frustrating. A bastion of liberty should not even be having these discussions. For one, the failure to deal with this issue as a systemic problem is embarassing, instead, you like to argue the little details, when really you should be looking at the numbers and figuring out what the hell you can do to lower them, and do it by any means.
TYSON
07-09-2016, 08:12 PM
Uh-Oh is not dumb at all, he questions things, and I respect that about him...I think he reaches the wrong conclusion at times, but tbh a lot of that comes from living a different life, forming a different outlook on the world.
I'm disappointed at how America deals with these issues, I see America as the greatest country in the world, but when it comes to social issues, you guys are so frustrating. A bastion of liberty should not even be having these discussions. For one, the failure to deal with this issue as a systemic problem is embarassing, instead, you like to argue the little details, when really you should be looking at the numbers and figuring out what the hell you can do to lower them, and do it by any means.
I'd vote for you....
TYSON
07-09-2016, 08:17 PM
My pops just kinda pissed me off about this shit. Took a post with two pics associated with each other about a racial situation of a white man holding a sign and the other showing a woman sign talking about him and his sign. He separated them to only share one picture of the man with the sign. I addressed Him respectfully about but I really feel like being very disrespectful to the nigga right now
uh-oh
07-09-2016, 08:54 PM
Uh-Oh is not dumb at all, he questions things, and I respect that about him...I think he reaches the wrong conclusion at times, but tbh a lot of that comes from living a different life, forming a different outlook on the world.
the problem is i come into these discussions with valid viewpoints, and instead of debating it like a rational human and expressing the opposing viewpoint, they just say lol urdumb, in essence.
take Junto for instance. i apparently disgust him. what disgusts you junto? the fact i'm not justifying the cops use of lethal force because i can't tell if it was needed? or the fact you adamantly KNOW it was unnecessary force without being able to tell if it was needed?
i'm sorry for not taking a hardline stance on something when all of the facts aren't presented.
The thing is uh-oh is that "pointing that out as a possibility" is justifying their actions, even if that's not your intention. And yes there is a blind spot on the video, but the surrounding information we have pretty much rules it out as a possibility. In order to reach for his gun and fire in that position he:
-would have had to be completely unaffected by the taser or the intensity of having two dudes on top of him with a gun in his face
-have explosive hips to extend his arm like that with two other men on top of him
-And be able to sell surrender with one side of his body while simultaneously acting a completely different way with the other side of his body. For emphasis' sake, I'll remind you: two dudes are on top of him with a gun in his face.
Try this: get tackled, tasered, have two men on top of you with a gun in your face and in a split second rub your stomach and pat your head with perfect execution. Throw the video of it up on YouTube and I'll take your point seriously. Until then, that kind of argument defies all logic and provides a ridiculous rationalization of their behavior, regardless of whether or not that's your intention.
uh-oh
07-09-2016, 09:40 PM
The thing is uh-oh is that "pointing that out as a possibility" is justifying their actions, even if that's not your intention. And yes there is a blind spot on the video, but the surrounding information we have pretty much rules it out as a possibility. In order to reach for his gun and fire in that position he:
-would have had to be completely unaffected by the taser or the intensity of having two dudes on top of him with a gun in his face
-have explosive hips to extend his arm like that with two other men on top of him
-And be able to sell surrender with one side of his body while simultaneously acting a completely different way with the other side of his body. For emphasis' sake, I'll remind you: two dudes are on top of him with a gun in his face.
Try this: get tackled, tasered, have two men on top of you with a gun in your face and in a split second rub your stomach and pat your head with perfect execution. Throw the video of it up on YouTube and I'll take your point seriously. Until then, that kind of argument defies all logic and provides a ridiculous rationalization of their behavior, regardless of whether or not that's your intention.
you are attaching extra parameters to it like somehow if he reaches his gun he has to miraculously aim it directly into each of their faces as well. all he has to do is get his hand in his pocket, and pull it out. thats it. that would be justifiable enough, with his hand offscreen he could be reaching that pocket.
look at it from the cops point of view, if you and another man have tackled, tasered and wrestled this man to the point of both of you on top of him, and you lose control of his free hand that is going towards the pocket where you know he has a gun. should you further endanger yourself and others, and keep wrestling him? or does your police training kick in and you neutralize the threat?
literally all i'm saying is taking a stance one way or another is ridiculous, i can see both viewpoints, you and others refuse to. to the point that i have to spell out the other viewpoint, to the point where it seems like that is my sole viewpoint lol.
either way now i just keep arguing the same points so there is no point to this. my buzz is kicking in and the main cards starting soon. i'm over this futile debate.
Witty
07-09-2016, 09:51 PM
Again tho, you guys are talking about this on an individual basis...this is not the correct conversation.
Junto
07-09-2016, 10:12 PM
the problem is i come into these discussions with valid viewpoints, and instead of debating it like a rational human and expressing the opposing viewpoint, they just say lol urdumb, in essence.
take Junto for instance. i apparently disgust him. what disgusts you junto? the fact i'm not justifying the cops use of lethal force because i can't tell if it was needed? or the fact you adamantly KNOW it was unnecessary force without being able to tell if it was needed?
i'm sorry for not taking a hardline stance on something when all of the facts aren't presented.
I'm sayin FUCK U & UR VIEWPOINTS wasn't lookin for a goddamn debate about it bitch
Greed
07-09-2016, 11:08 PM
Whoa, let me read a couple pages.
Nah uh-oh it's not that I'm refusing to hear that argument, it's that I've heard it, considered it, and found it without merit. You're doing the "I'm just saying" dance when the video makes it evident that the "right hand reaching" theory is ridiculous.
I agree with Witty that this is the wrong conversation, but that's what happens - Instead of looking at the big picture of police brutality against minorities, every time one is caught on tape there are those who try to discredit it or make it enough of a wash to give it some justification. And those are ironically the same people who say that "good Muslims have to decry the terrorists!" Yet how many good cops are speaking out about the bad ones?
Whatever, we see it differently. This has been a dope fight card.
Greed
07-10-2016, 12:05 AM
What make it so bad is i was gonna give the police a break on alton for the simple fact they were responding to a call about a man with a gun so they were already coming in hot. Philando on the other hand was too much, that was blatant racism. Not ku klux klan white power racism but he black so i already dont trust him racism.
White people been fucking up with everyone lately. Whats that about.
veritas
07-10-2016, 01:36 AM
Lol at whites fn up with everyone lately. How is that diff than blacks?
I mean since we are complete generalizing here right?
Greed
07-10-2016, 02:10 AM
Yeah bro i am generalizing since in each incident a white persons actions have led people to basically martyring themselves in retaliation. Bush got us into a decade long war with various terror factions, trump saying fuck mexicans, and white police still shooting black men in cold blood all these years later.
So i ask you white man, who is the instigator.
uh-oh
07-10-2016, 06:43 AM
I'm sayin FUCK U & UR VIEWPOINTS wasn't lookin for a goddamn debate about it bitch
oh i see. solid showing. thanks for proving a point, throwing all intelligence to the wind to be an emotional woman. the classic liberal, when presented with facts that don't correspond with your silly outlook on the world you throw a temper tantrum.
Nah @uh-oh it's not that I'm refusing to hear that argument, it's that I've heard it, considered it, and found it without merit. You're doing the "I'm just saying" dance when the video makes it evident that the "right hand reaching" theory is ridiculous.
I agree with @Witty that this is the wrong conversation, but that's what happens - Instead of looking at the big picture of police brutality against minorities, every time one is caught on tape there are those who try to discredit it or make it enough of a wash to give it some justification. And those are ironically the same people who say that "good Muslims have to decry the terrorists!" Yet how many good cops are speaking out about the bad ones?
i feel you, i just disagree its all good.
the main thing in all this, and what i found the least vomit worthy among the memes passed around and most poignant, was the "hey cops how does it feel to be profiled/judged on the whole by the actions of a few" ones. because in essence thats what this is. there are something like 750,000 police officers, i don't know if that includes sheriffs and other branches or if thats just city police. but they all get the hate in these instances and they all get the criticism from some ignorant people in our society, while the 40 million or so black people get hate for the bad apples in there society by the ignorant as well. its just human nature i guess.
King Karaoke
07-10-2016, 08:37 AM
while the 40 million or so black people get hate for the bad apples in there society by the ignorant as well. its just human nature i guess.
Hi...
smh, thats not why black people get hate...
thats just the excuse racists give...
Not saying youre racist but that part was pretty ignorant...
Bye...
Destroyer
07-10-2016, 08:53 AM
When newt gingrich comes out and says white people don't understand the discrimination blacks face and how it affects their overall safety and well-being, you have to admit there is a problem.
I was a fan of obama for the most part, but i dont like that he hasn't pointed out the issue of cops killing innocents.
This isnt a new thing, everybody just has cameras now.
My issue with this stuff is that groups like BLM automatically jump to the conclusion of "guilty" on these police shootings even before evidence has been released. Obama pretty much does the same thing, and when he's wrong, like with Darren Wilson in that Michael Brown shooting, he doesn't apologize.
It's pretty obvious that racism does exist in police forces on some level, but assuming all cops are racist, or that every instance of a police shooting is racism, ends up damaging the credibility of BLM supporters.
Greed
07-10-2016, 11:20 AM
The number of questionable shootings is too high someone needs to be held accountable. Obama didnt pull the trigger who should we be angry at?
King Karaoke
07-10-2016, 11:50 AM
My issue with this stuff is that groups like BLM automatically jump to the conclusion of "guilty" on these police shootings even before evidence has been released. Obama pretty much does the same thing, and when he's wrong, like with Darren Wilson in that Michael Brown shooting, he doesn't apologize.
It's pretty obvious that racism does exist in police forces on some level, but assuming all cops are racist, or that every instance of a police shooting is racism, ends up damaging the credibility of BLM supporters.
Hi...
Nah, not everyone jumps to conclusions...
Every time I hear a story about the police shooting a black person after he points a gun at them, I think "Well, hes stupid for pointing a gun at them"...
My friend got killed by the police 6 years ago...
He had a gun on him...
The police say allegedly he pointed it at them...
I knew him and I dont think he did it but theres no footage/witnesses to prove it...
But these dudes are get slaughtered on camera while theyre unarmed...
thats a problem...
Even if they have a gun on them, it doesnt mean that they have to be killed...
Black dudes are not walking around with the quick draw perk from call of duty...
Philando Castile got shot while he was sitting in a car...
No gun in his hand...
Do you really think he intended to use it on a cop?...
Bye...
Diode
07-10-2016, 12:00 PM
Lol @ being wrong about wilson
veritas
07-10-2016, 01:37 PM
Soooo.......all white cops are racist?
Sooooo........all white people are racist?
Sooo......are black people never racist?
These are the generalizations we are going with right guys?
Certain
07-10-2016, 01:41 PM
All people have racial biases. Those racial biases become more dangerous in the hands of government-empowered killers.
veritas
07-10-2016, 01:44 PM
Soooo.....we should not have a military?
Destroyer
07-10-2016, 01:54 PM
Of course ultimately no one should
Certain
07-10-2016, 01:59 PM
Soooo.....we should not have a military?
No, we should have armies and we should have police officers. But we need to make sure they are properly regulated and kept in check.
Greed
07-10-2016, 02:02 PM
Soooo.......all white cops are racist?
Sooooo........all white people are racist?
Sooo......are black people never racist?
These are the generalizations we are going with right guys?
Ah shut the hell up with that black racism isnt killing innocent white anericans.
the fact that Veritas pointed out how militarized the police are is a noteworthy troll backfire.
veritas
07-10-2016, 02:42 PM
No, we should have armies and we should have police officers. But we need to make sure they are properly regulated and kept in check.
By not hiring any white people as policemen right?
veritas
07-10-2016, 02:47 PM
the fact that Veritas pointed out how militarized the police are is a noteworthy troll backfire.
Wrong. That was my whole point. That all this is going to lead to militarized police and martial law. That if we can't realize that not ALL white cops are racist and want to use a badge to kill blacks then we will never have nice things.
Also....we need to remember definitions. How they differ from racism to prejudice to bias to stereotypes.
The Dallas killer was a racist. You cannot say that about any of the cops who killed the men. Fact.
It is unfortunate that some blacks are allowing these tragedies to make them worse than the very thing they are supposedly fighting for. Additionally is sad that race trumps truth and right.
Certain I am dissapointed in you right now. Yiu are better than this. Conversely look at greeds rhetoric in this thread. He is useless. A pawn. Certain you are able to think and yet choose the racial agenda....and go from a king to a pawn.
veritas
07-10-2016, 02:57 PM
Let me make one final point before I go to church to legitimately pray for this county.
You err if you believe ALL are like ONE. That is rasisct
The very title of this thread should be *Fuck THOSE police*
Your sense of justice is eschew. Killing cops at random is not justice. Nor is making anyone guilty before the investigation.
If we look at statistics black men make up a small percentage of the population and yet a disproportionate amount of the homicides. Conversely the percentage of white cops active with the percentage who have killed an INNOCENT black man is WAY less.
Logic in hand, explain now how we can say ALL WHITE COPS but not ALL BLACK MEN?
THIS IS THE AGENDA THAT IS BLINDING YOU. WRONG AND RIGHT. NOT BLACK AND WHITE.
Zytorg out.
Wrong. That was my whole point. That all this is going to lead to militarized police and martial law. That if we can't realize that not ALL white cops are racist and want to use a badge to kill blacks then we will never have nice things.
I'm just going to make this part boldface and let you figure out where you went wrong. If you can't do that...........ego.
veritas
07-10-2016, 03:06 PM
Certain...show me you are a man of reason and logic. Concerned with what is true and good. Admit Yiu were frustrated and emotional when you made this thread and apologize. Change the title to fuck those police. Fair?
veritas
07-10-2016, 03:07 PM
I'm just going to make this part boldface and let you figure out where you went wrong. If you can't do that...........ego.
Wrong. Don't play games. That would be like me saying your analogy about complainING about fbi and police is contradictory is in itself contradictory.
Greed
07-10-2016, 03:29 PM
If we look at statistics black men make up a small percentage of the population and yet a disproportionate amount of the homicides. Conversely the percentage of white cops active with the percentage who have killed an INNOCENT black man is WAY less.
So what you are saying is, black people are a hostile breed and should be treated as such? Its that white privileged attititude that is the cause of all of this in the first place.
The dallas killer wasnt a racist and if he was a racist it was after the fact racism against his oppressors. And those cops were racist. Its like 'oh well its only cause everyone has cameras' . How many times do we have to show you they are KILLING us for you to believe it?
The badge shouldnt be a license to kill, and if it is who will hold the police to a higher standard? They don the uniform to protect us but they are afraid of the very thing they are protecting.
Destroyer
07-10-2016, 03:38 PM
Wow veritas ignorant as fuck
They make up a proportionate amount of homicides because of how they are treated for being black, not as a cause of being black.
not playing games, veritas, and it is definitely contradictory of people to hate part of the government that exonerates one party and protects another when both parties have demonstrably broken the law.
that the police force has been militarized already - by the very definition of the word - is not an opinion. It's the legal reality. Don't pray for the country, V. Pray for yourself, so that you may become the change that this country needs. Otherwise..........
.............#ego.
veritas
07-10-2016, 05:45 PM
So what you are saying is, black people are a hostile breed and should be treated as such? Its that white privileged attititude that is the cause of all of this in the first place.
The dallas killer wasnt a racist and if he was a racist it was after the fact racism against his oppressors. And those cops were racist. Its like 'oh well its only cause everyone has cameras' . How many times do we have to show you they are KILLING us for you to believe it?
The badge shouldnt be a license to kill, and if it is who will hold the police to a higher standard? They don the uniform to protect us but they are afraid of the very thing they are protecting.
Soooo.....saying I want to kill all white people is not racist? What if a white man said he wanted to kill all black people?
This is lunacy
Edit: please see greeds mind. This is the thinkING that is the definition of hypocrisy and is the problem.
veritas
07-10-2016, 05:46 PM
Wow veritas ignorant as fuck
They make up a proportionate amount of homicides because of how they are treated for being black, not as a cause of being black.
So correlation equals causation? Or do you just continue to not be smart enough to understand my words?
veritas
07-10-2016, 05:52 PM
not playing games, veritas, and it is definitely contradictory of people to hate part of the government that exonerates one party and protects another when both parties have demonstrably broken the law.
that the police force has been militarized already - by the very definition of the word - is not an opinion. It's the legal reality. Don't pray for the country, V. Pray for yourself, so that you may become the change that this country needs. Otherwise..........
.............#ego.
1. It is apples to oranges. Being upset that the fbi did not indite a politician is totally diff from saying we should kill cops as justice for a handful of cops who violated. Please promise me you see that. Trust me, your point sounded good and legit at first but upon analysis it was not legit.
2. Your point is not a point because you mistook thr premise I was making. You did this because you have an agenda which my words contradict so you jump when you think you have something. Going as far as to say that I am wrong. The military is government sanctioned protectors and killers. Just as the police. Certain was saying that all cops have racial biases and so we didn't need to have that Enobled by giving them authority to kill. So I simply said so we should do with the military? Go back to my first posts on this where I clearly said that thsee tragedies unfortunately spark the militarization of police forces which is not good. And too wake up.
Greed
07-10-2016, 05:59 PM
Im not condoning his actions. I am however saying how many marches and vigils have to be had before everyone is treated equal. Stop killing us.
veritas
07-10-2016, 06:15 PM
Wait....did I kill you or yall? You mean: take measures to prevent things like this happening or at least lessen it right?
Also....the statistics are clear.....can we not say stop killing yourselves? As that is what is far more common? Fair?
Witty
07-10-2016, 08:28 PM
veritas I agreed with your first statement...your second statement is irrelevant to the conversation, of course that is another problem and another discussion but they are separate issues.
Greed
07-10-2016, 08:54 PM
No v, i am not blaming you in particular, although your second statement proves that the mindset of white americans is that it is unequivocally black peoples fault. You speak matter-of-factly when you dont have all the facts yourself. You argue police lives matter with black lives matter quotables, which is why people are split now. You have already chosen a life over another.
You do not know oppression and should not speak on it unless you have a solution that results in unity.
veritas your dedication to mischaracterizing arguments is strong here, and I commend you for it. The way you "summed up" my argument is so wildly off-base that you're either that dumb or that committed to the corner you've backed yourself into. The ego is strong.
I didn't mistake the premise, just pointed out that you saying the police would "one day become militarized" is dumb because it already has. And yes, the military and police should play different roles. You're playing a basic "all or nothing" rhetorical game here, which is why 90% of your responses are questions that completely misrepresent the arguments you're quoting. Or, if I were you, I'd just say:
Sooooooo, racism doesn't exist right? Soooooo police officers are incapable of wrong now? Sooooo what you're saying is nothing in life could possibly interconnected with other things, fair?
Notice how I sounded authoritative while simultaneously completely missing the point at all levels? Trust that your schtick is noted and you're fooling no one. Do pray for yourself, V. I fear you have been consumed by your desires. This country needs people like you to change. Arise from the ashes of your former self and exceed the limitations of your narrow worldview. Fair?
big baby
07-10-2016, 10:05 PM
what's funny is that this is how v actually thinks. And this isn't his typical troll. Well it goes hand in hand, it's like a win/win cause this is what he hopes to achieve as a troll, but is doing it with his natural beliefs.
Junto
07-11-2016, 01:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtyGIzw-hAA
Dallas shootings later that night washes this right out the headlines
& instead it'll be a bigger more militant police force at protests against killer cops, & prolly anti-Trump movements too
plus back to the talks that no one should have high-powered weapons or please more domestic surveillance
Junto
07-11-2016, 01:29 AM
and fuck you again uh-oh
Useless
07-11-2016, 02:01 AM
All people have racial biases. Those racial biases become more dangerous in the hands of government-empowered killers.
By ur logic white people should police white neighborhoods and black people should police black neighborhoods. So ur an advocate for segregation?
veritas
07-11-2016, 05:50 AM
No v, i am not blaming you in particular, although your second statement proves that the mindset of white americans is that it is unequivocally black peoples fault. You speak matter-of-factly when you dont have all the facts yourself. You argue police lives matter with black lives matter quotables, which is why people are split now. You have already chosen a life over another.
You do not know oppression and should not speak on it unless you have a solution that results in unity.
Glad that you simmered down. So no...I was just using your own type of logic against you. The stats are stats. Not an opinion. You say that *we need to stop killing yall* ok fine. But what about the fact that statistically black men kill black men at a much higher rate than anyone else. Real talk. This has nothing to do with race for me. I want star trek. The best man for the job regardless if they white black alien whatever. You are trying to spin my words but you cant. I hope you see my very clear words here about my stance and you see how wrong you are.
This ties in because one of the first steps is that white people have to be able to speak about black peoples lives. If we want things to get better.
veritas
07-11-2016, 05:54 AM
veritas your dedication to mischaracterizing arguments is strong here, and I commend you for it. The way you "summed up" my argument is so wildly off-base that you're either that dumb or that committed to the corner you've backed yourself into. The ego is strong.
I didn't mistake the premise, just pointed out that you saying the police would "one day become militarized" is dumb because it already has. And yes, the military and police should play different roles. You're playing a basic "all or nothing" rhetorical game here, which is why 90% of your responses are questions that completely misrepresent the arguments you're quoting. Or, if I were you, I'd just say:
Sooooooo, racism doesn't exist right? Soooooo police officers are incapable of wrong now? Sooooo what you're saying is nothing in life could possibly interconnected with other things, fair?
Notice how I sounded authoritative while simultaneously completely missing the point at all levels? Trust that your schtick is noted and you're fooling no one. Do pray for yourself, V. I fear you have been consumed by your desires. This country needs people like you to change. Arise from the ashes of your former self and exceed the limitations of your narrow worldview. Fair?
Lol wut? That convoluted discourse I would expect from destroyer but not you. Your argument about my argument is not only wrong but far from the point I am making.
No duh that the police is already militarized. These events keep that process moving forward and thus these events fuel the agenda. Read my first posts silly. Don't talk to me about ego when your mind has been consumed with trying to bend my intellect to your will by accusing me of not making a point I already made. Silly.
don't be obtuse, veritas. I was commenting on your several incorrect rephrasing of arguments in here instead of addressing them. it's lazy and self-serving. let go of the ego.
the idea that further militarization will happen because of this type of stuff is historically inaccurate, since it started long before Black Lives Matters was a thing, and never showed any signs of stopping or slowing down. Your arguments are lazy attempts at low-hanging fruit. The idea that it's weird to hold people who are paid through tax dollars to a higher standard than criminals and gangs deserves no recognition; it's stupid on the face. Nobody denies black-on-black crime, but the issue here is police brutality that disproportionately affects minorities. Gang violence and the like is not pertinent to that discussion, especially since a great deal of effort across the country has gone towards addressing those problems, whereas large demographics (mainly conservative whites) refuse to consider that police brutality is even an issue to begin with.
yes, killing cops is bad, but it is not a mutually exclusive belief to think that cops killing civilians is also bad.
veritas
07-11-2016, 07:08 AM
Who said it was bro? Not me? I think you should adress the opposite with people like greed who said the dallas shooter was not a racist...but if he was it was only cuz he was oppressed. Or that whites need to stop killing blacks when blacks kill blacks and whites far more than white cops kill blacks. See?
My penultimate point was that all these shootings riots etc will lead to martial law and that would be ideal for the agenda. You speak of ego then presume I need to arise like a phoenix from your missing me with convoluted logic and assumptions about my personal beliefs. Look at you go!
you're obfuscating the issue of police brutality with extraneous info about other stuff. is the other stuff worth talking about separately? sure. but it has nothing to do with police killing black people on a regular basis. don't know how else I can say this. the very fact that you continue to compare police actions and that of criminal murderers etc is exactly why it's a problem. only difference is, my taxes don't pay the salaries of gang members, and nobody denies that those issues are serious problems. just repeating myself now. if you don't get it by now, not sure what else it will take.
.......ego. arise from out of its shadow that consumes your mind. believe in yourself, you can do it. I'm here to help. become your potential, V!
veritas
07-11-2016, 08:05 AM
How regular is regular?
What if the gang members are on wellfare?
There is no difference between police killing blacks and the fbi investigating a politician...but there is a difference between white cops killing blacks and blacks killing blacks? How? At least my example both deals with homicide. Lololol look at you go.
I loved your elaborate tap out. Here is some face I will let you save.
you seem to be the reason that analogies were taken off the SAT. clearly they are difficult for you to understand. I was referring to people's reactions, not to the actions themselves, especially since they come from the same #BigGovSux crowd who get offended when you condemn cops for killing civilians but think it's perfectly OK to condemn another government agency for not indicting a criminal. come on, you're not even trying anymore.
even if my tax dollars are going to welfare recipients responsible for violent crime, it's not the same, because cops exist to "serve and protect." the fact that there are very strong similarities between street criminals and police officers is EXACTLY the problem. read that sentence over and over again, please.
to carry your comparison, lol@you for getting knocked out, coming to and thinking you tapped me out. I would say look at you go, but really you're too embarrassing for anyone to look at.
anyway, this is me bowing out of this discussion. I'm sure you will consider it a win, because...
.....ego.
Destroyer
07-11-2016, 09:03 AM
This must be what pissing into the wind is like
veritas
07-11-2016, 09:40 AM
you seem to be the reason that analogies were taken off the SAT. clearly they are difficult for you to understand. I was referring to people's reactions, not to the actions themselves, especially since they come from the same #BigGovSux crowd who get offended when you condemn cops for killing civilians but think it's perfectly OK to condemn another government agency for not indicting a criminal. come on, you're not even trying anymore.
even if my tax dollars are going to welfare recipients responsible for violent crime, it's not the same, because cops exist to "serve and protect." the fact that there are very strong similarities between street criminals and police officers is EXACTLY the problem. read that sentence over and over again, please.
to carry your comparison, lol@you for getting knocked out, coming to and thinking you tapped me out. I would say look at you go, but really you're too embarrassing for anyone to look at.
anyway, this is me bowing out of this discussion. I'm sure you will consider it a win, because...
.....ego.
Very strong similarities between street criminals and police officers? Lol wut? So less than one percent of all criminals are criminals? Orrrrrrr is 100 percent of cops criminals?
Orrrrrrr how very strong is very strong quantitatively? Orrrrrrr is this just your busted opinion fueled by the agenda disguised as truth.
veritas
07-11-2016, 09:42 AM
This must be what pissing into the wind is like
Yeah bro! Totes!
NYCSPITZ
07-11-2016, 01:47 PM
Articulate english korean teacher vs sub-human low-iq fucknut
lolz omg guys the bible is accurate verbatim cuz I'm an idiot I come from da bible belt with avg 70iq incest cousins and sermons on big floods BIG BIG FLOODS
veritas
07-11-2016, 03:15 PM
Articulate english korean teacher vs sub-human low-iq fucknut
lolz omg guys the bible is accurate verbatim cuz I'm an idiot I come from da bible belt with avg 70iq incest cousins and sermons on big floods BIG BIG FLOODS
Soooooooo........Hey stan.
NYCSPITZ
07-11-2016, 03:16 PM
Soooooooo........Hey stan.
it would be stan except im better than u @ life u lose
Oatsmeal just decimated u
STFU
NYCSPITZ
07-11-2016, 03:36 PM
yo I bet Veritas jerks off to Preacher on AMC
"AYE THER YAWLL U SEEN DAT THERE RENDITION OF GOOD N EVIL WHAT A GREAT SHOW HURRRR"
LOL...LOL...LOL...
"Very strong similarites between Stans in the eminem video with blonde hair vs really with bleached ahir?? Orrrrrrrr are you just talking about how my mother made me eat lead chips as a child vs quanitative amount of lead per househould in areas surrounded crawfish swamps??? "
LMFAOOOOOO
veritas
07-11-2016, 04:31 PM
Everyone loves your new boarding gimmick! And you are really great!
NYCSPITZ
07-11-2016, 04:51 PM
Everyone loves your new boarding gimmick! And you are really great!
LOL EGO
veritas
07-11-2016, 05:10 PM
I swear, what with all these lil stans running around here jocking my gimmicks, that I should stop boarding. IT aint right.
NYCSPITZ
07-11-2016, 05:13 PM
I swear, what with all these low iq psychologists employed within the demarcations of incest country in the south, we should burn them all alive, it ain't right.
some of these cops are straight psychopaths. also, have we seen the baton rouge video? shit is getting extremely frightening
By ur logic white people should police white neighborhoods and black people should police black neighborhoods. So ur an advocate for segregation?
police forces should shift towards reflecting the demographics of the area they patrol to decrease the amount of racial bias. that doesn't mean segregation. that means turning situations where its 5 white cops called to the scene of 1 black guy to 2 black cops 2 white cops 1 latino cop who would theoretically be less likely to use unlawful aggression tactics and be more patient and tactful as a group.
veritas
07-11-2016, 05:40 PM
NYC hearts V though for real.
veritas
07-11-2016, 05:41 PM
police forces should shift towards reflecting the demographics of the area they patrol to decrease the amount of racial bias. that doesn't mean segregation. that means turning situations where its 5 white cops called to the scene of 1 black guy to 2 black cops 2 white cops 1 latino cop who would theoretically be less likely to use unlawful aggression tactics and be more patient and tactful as a group.
how would you implement this?
police forces should shift towards reflecting the demographics of the area they patrol to decrease the amount of racial bias. that doesn't mean segregation. that means turning situations where its 5 white cops called to the scene of 1 black guy to 2 black cops 2 white cops 1 latino cop who would theoretically be less likely to use unlawful aggression tactics and be more patient and tactful as a group.
It's more complicated than that. Cities like Baltimore already have a diverse police force, as well as politicians in city council and the city is still a dump. It's going to sound corny as hell but the only way to solve this stuff is for black people and the police to work together. As long as both distrust the other one, things aren't going to improve. That means work from both sides though, cops have to be A LOT more fair with arrests and black people have to put in much more effort into keeping their neighborhoods safe and fighting to keep crime out of their communities.
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