Most Underrated NBA player... Ever

[Bash]

Legit just had an hour long debate about Paul Pierce (my all time favorite). Noone gives this dude enough credit. Idk why though...

I told my homie in his prime, Pierce would obliterate a prime T mac.

Am i trippin?

[veritas]

John stockton

[Bash]

John stockton

He's a top 5 pg... Dont think he's too under rated...

He personality wise just doesnt stand out so he isnt talked about as much...

Quiet n fundamental

[Hearder Hearder]

Isiah Thomas the old one

[Aero]

Oscar Robertson

[Blanco Bishop]

I disregard any old player who played before the league was fully integrated.


IMO Duncan will never get his due props.

[Chamber]

Legit just had an hour long debate about Paul Pierce (my all time favorite). Noone gives this dude enough credit. Idk why though...

I told my homie in his prime, Pierce would obliterate a prime T mac.

Am i trippin?

Yes ur more than trippin ur falling into the grand canyon, Gtfo w/ pierce better than prime t mac. Smh.

[Zen]

Hakeem is the most underrated player ever, easily. He's top 5 all time, and no one seems to remember him.

[Bash]

Yes ur more than trippin ur falling into the grand canyon, Gtfo w/ pierce better than prime t mac. Smh.

You havent thought it through yet

[Bash]

Ask your friends, they'll agree

[veritas]

John stockton is the greatest point guard. See you are under rating him right now!

[Chamber]

You havent thought it through yet

I thought it through & still no.

[PancakeBrah]

Prime McGrady shits on Pierce. McGrady's best year was a Top 10 All Time Year. Like, at absolute peaks of their talent and skill, Pierce is not in his orbit. At all. Remotely.

Pierce is good though.

[Bash]

John stockton is the greatest point guard. See you are under rating him right now!

Magic Johnson bruva

[Bash]

I think yall just hate the way he plays lol. Maybe cause he's slow and very unathletic.

Best of 5? Pierce 3-2

T mac cant guard that step back... Nobody can

[Chamber]

Prime McGrady shits on Pierce. McGrady's best year was a Top 10 All Time Year. Like, at absolute peaks of their talent and skill, Pierce is not in his orbit. At all. Remotely.

Pierce is good though.

Fact's.

[Chamber]

I think yall just hate the way he plays lol. Maybe cause he's slow and very unathletic.

Best of 5? Pierce 3-2

T mac cant guard that step back... Nobody can


Lol keep tellin urself that.

[veritas]

Magic Johnson bruva


No. Stockton. Think about it.

[Bash]

No. Stockton. Think about it.

I did, i couldnt think of one reason why Stockton is better lol

[Bash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-YMn3UFy8w

Greatness...

[El Muffin]

Underrated. All y'all are naming hofers lol


Umm Drazan Petrovic much

[El Muffin]

But if naming hofers I'm picking Pistol Pete Maravich

Craftiest whiteboy ever

King of the floater

Most effective technique for non athletic niggas

N if u master it..all u need is a decent/powerfulfirst step

[Chamber]

Jamal crawford is dumb underrated.

[Zen]

Underrated. All y'all are naming hofers lol


Umm Drazan Petrovic much

Drazen is a hall of famer.

[El Muffin]

He takes dumb amounts of shots

[El Muffin]

Drazan is a hall of famer.

Yeah under the whole serb/Croat thing

And how he's the progenitor of eastern European bball

Think yao Ming to China

U know statistically he wouldn't be in hof

Guess what I meant were household names

I mean shit..homie rode the bench till he went to the nets

But I think he was probably one of the best shooters I've seen

Unconventional too. Loved his game

[Hush]

Prime penny

[Bash]

Never thought of Crawford as being underrated.

S'like you cant look at him n say superstar ya know?

Just great role player with superstar tendencies...

Brandon Roy at his peak was underrated...

Kyle Lowry... Imo is also underrated

[veritas]

John stockton is the all time leader in assists and steals. All time. Of the evers. Plus he is top 50 in scoring.

Can I at least get that he is the greatest point guard of all time?

[Bash]

Prime penny

Thats a good pick. I fucks with his kicks too

[Bash]

John stockton is the all time leader in assists and steals. All time. Of the evers. Plus he is top 50 in scoring.

Can I at least get that he is the greatest point guard of all time?
No rings bruh... Cant do it

[El Muffin]

Never thought of Crawford as being underrated.

S'like you cant look at him n say superstar ya know?

Just great role player with superstar tendencies...

Brandon Roy at his peak was underrated...

Kyle Lowry... Imo is also underrated

What's that old nigga from the jazz that used to avg 30pts

I remember not being aware of him ..doing research then being blown away

Bernard king like

[El Muffin]

Adrian Dantley son

Adrian Dantley

[Chamber]

Lol Kyle lowery was on the allstar team, i dont think he's underrated.
He's right where he deserves.

Jamel Mashburn was underrated af.

[Bash]

What's that old nigga from the jazz that used to avg 30pts

I remember not being aware of him ..doing research then being blown away

Bernard king like

Cant think of the name but i think i know who your talking about... White guy? SG/SF?

[El Muffin]

Dave Debuscherre lmao

Take it baaackk

Hella underrated

[Blanco Bishop]

Shawn Kemp

[El Muffin]

Lol Kyle lowery was on the allstar team, i dont think he's underrated.
He's right where he deserves.

Jamel Mashburn was underrated af.

Word at Mashburn.

Another nigga like that is Kendall Gill

Shit ..maybe Glen Rice

[El Muffin]

Or my cousin

Eddie Jones

[Bash]

Irl my games like Rondo... Nobody guarding me though

[Chamber]

Yea Glen Rice was the truth had a sick shot.

Jimmie jackson at one point.

Always thought Nick Van exel was dope.

[El Muffin]

Yeah ur jumper broke like his too ole and 1 headband wearing ass nigga

[Chamber]

Rod Strickland FTW.

[Chamber]

Yeah ur jumper broke like his too ole and 1 headband wearing ass nigga

Lol.

[Bash]

Kawhi fuckin Leonard

[El Muffin]

Yea Glen Rice was the truth had a sick shot.

Jimmie jackson at one point.

Always thought Nick Van exel was dope.



We have a winner

/thread

He made so many fullcourt buxzerbeaters

[Bash]

Yeah ur jumper broke like his too ole and 1 headband wearing ass nigga

Least i can get to the rack...

[veritas]

No rings bruh... Cant do it


LOL wut? So by your standards bill cartwright is more under rated than Charles Barkley?

So rings make you under rated?

I am saying that John stockton may be the greatest player to ever play the game. And I could make a strong case. Even though he had no rings. If he had rings he would be the greatest no doubt.

Fair?

[Bash]

Antwan Jamison

[El Muffin]

Least i can get to the rack...

Then u do a finger roll over the backboard like Javale Mcgee

[Bash]

LOL wut? So by your standards bill cartwright is more under rated than Charles Barkley?

So rings make you under rated?

I am saying that John stockton may be the greatest player to ever play the game. And I could make a strong case. Even though he had no rings. If he had rings he would be the greatest no doubt.

Fair?

Im confused, i said Stockton wasnt under rated, he's good where he's at (top 5). I was saying becuase he doesnt have rings i cant put him ahead of Magic.

If he had 1 though then the arguement could be made

[Bash]

Then u do a finger roll over the backboard like Javale Mcgee

Yo carlos boozer form havin ass

[veritas]

Im confused, i said Stockton wasnt under rated, he's good where he's at (top 5). I was saying becuase he doesnt have rings i cant put him ahead of Magic.

If he had 1 though then the arguement could be made



So a ring which involves a team....is criteria to consider an individual under or over rated?

Stat wise stockton is greatest pg. Ever. The fact you say no allows me to say that he is to you under rated.

I would even go as far as to say that he was top 5 greatest OF ALL TIME. and the fact that you disagree means that he is under rated.

Can any one co sign stockton as top 5 greatest?

Or are you all Hating bc he is white and you are racist?

[El Muffin]

Yo carlos boozer form havin ass

LMAO. Dead

Bitch u look like John Salmons n Tony Snell did a fusion dance

[El Muffin]

So a ring which involves a team....is criteria to consider an individual under or over rated?

Stat wise stockton is greatest pg. Ever. The fact you say no allows me to say that he is to you under rated.

I would even go as far as to say that he was top 5 greatest OF ALL TIME. and the fact that you disagree means that he is under rated.

Can any one co sign stockton as top 5 greatest?

Or are you all Hating bc he is white and you are racist?

Top 5 pgs?

Sure.

I wouldn't say top 5 of all time any position

Longevity/health/consistent ly playing full seasons contributed to his career. He didn't shoot an amazing percentage. He's a step above Gary Payton but not on dame plane as Magic or Oscar imo

[veritas]

Top 5 pgs?

Sure.


How about all tine?

[Bash]

So a ring which involves a team....is criteria to consider an individual under or over rated?

Stat wise stockton is greatest pg. Ever. The fact you say no allows me to say that he is to you under rated.

I would even go as far as to say that he was top 5 greatest OF ALL TIME. and the fact that you disagree means that he is under rated.

Can any one co sign stockton as top 5 greatest?

Or are you all Hating bc he is white and you are racist?

I never disagreed... Even in my quote i said Top 5

[veritas]

Top 5 all time?

[El Muffin]

How about all tine?

I don't know atm

That's a hard one

[Bash]

Magic Johnson
John Stockton
Oscar Robertson
Tony Parker
Andre Miller

[El Muffin]

Oh hell naw

[veritas]

I don't know atm

That's a hard one

Why?

[veritas]

How do you not have Jason kidd on there? Omg c'mon man.

[Chamber]

LOL andre miler this nigga bash is cut.

[Bash]

How do you not have Jason kidd on there? Omg c'mon man.

I'll swop him in for Miller lmao

[GUDELJ]

Sam Cassell

[El Muffin]

This nigga said Andre Miller

No Cp3

Or any of the older dudes who were better like Jason kidd
Terry Porter
Dennis Johnson ..

Etcetc

Bash u funny but leave the hard alone

[veritas]

Bash is out.


People....John stockton is top point guard of all time and top 5 all time.

Fair?

[veritas]

Dead.

[Bash]

In all seriousness though... When i do a top 5 list my criteria goes

All around game, rings, and where that person ranked among the other top ppl in their position.

[El Muffin]

LOL andre miler this nigga bash is cut.

Yo that shit leaned me

It's like niggas talking centers

Bash wud be like


Shaq
Wilt
Bill
Jabbar


GHEORGE MURESAN

[veritas]

Stockton was better than magic in stats. Had less rings and had better all around game. Pure point guard. Steal the ball and pass it for the assist.

John stockton ftw.

[Bash]

Had Jordan not convinced whomever not to let Isiah Thomas on the team, he'd probably had came off the bench tbh

[Chamber]

This nigga bash loves un-athletic ppl cuz he plays the same.

[Bash]

This nigga bash loves un-athletic ppl cuz he plays the same.

Cant say shit cause its true... I get buckets though...

You dont want this work Allen

[Chamber]

I'd break ur ankles & wait till u got up an do it again.

[Bash]

Bash vs Allen

S'like Pierce vs McGrady...

Dont do it...

[El Muffin]

Allen look like a skinny Gustavo ayon

:)

[El Muffin]

Bash vs Allen

S'like Pierce vs McGrady...

Dont do it...

More like Tyrone Hill vs Rudy Fernandez

[Bash]

Allen look like a skinny Gustavo ayon

:)

That mexican center? Rotfl

[El Muffin]

Here go Allen enthusiastically hoping niggss miss layups

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZoegrOZRUZXXYgOWik9kWyH1OOwh7s Rlw3C6t-Qdv7XpIMxbrAUCpF38

[Chamber]

Bash vs Allen

S'like Pierce vs McGrady...

Dont do it...

Ur the only one on this planet thinks thats a close match up LOL.

Tmac would wash pierce.

[Chamber]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EGNwRNGXZVA/UvkpOQVgReI/AAAAAAAABDU/ZrBnmxCDtII/s1600/Tracy+McGrady+Self+Alley-Oop+2002.gif

Neva forget.

[veritas]

John stockton top 5 if all time.
yes or no?

[Mr. J]

^^^^^in PGs its possible..



I still think people slept on KIdd though

[Inno]

Jason Williams

[veritas]

^^^^^in PGs its possible..



I still think people slept on KIdd though

How can you say it's possible like it's not possible lol?

I mean what is the job of a point guard? And who did that job best.

Stockton.

Y'all area just being racist and I find it legit offensive

[Mr. J]

lol @ being racist by bringing up Kidd

[Inno]

Hold up nigga the greatest point guard ever


Is


Jerry west


Stfu

[veritas]

lol @ being racist by bringing up Kidd

No.

Go back in this thread. I BROUGHT UP KIDD FIRST.

I am saying you are racist by not putting over stockton as the goat.

Fair?

Or maybe you are just ignorant...may I break down for you why stockton is the goat pg?

[Bash]

No.

Go back in this thread. I BROUGHT UP KIDD FIRST.

I am saying you are racist by not putting over stockton as the goat.

Fair?

Or maybe you are just ignorant...may I break down for you why stockton is the goat pg?

Bunch of nice stats with an "eh" legacy

[veritas]

Umm....being the ALL TIME LEADER IN TWO CATEGORIES is a nice legacy. Fair?

[Blanco Bishop]

Stockton def top five underated.

Dude just wasn't athletic at all.

He was like the Duncan of pgs without the rings.

[Bash]

Umm....being the ALL TIME LEADER IN TWO CATEGORIES is a nice legacy. Fair?

Stats help to a degree. He's one of the goat no doubt but besides what he did personally you have to look at the team he led as well. In his era the Jazz were about on the same level as the Clippers now.

This is a ring defining game.

Thats why i said he's one of the greats but 1 trip to the finals your whole career? Legacy is eh

[Blanco Bishop]

Stats help to a degree. He's one of the goat no doubt but besides what he did personally you have to look at the team he led as well. In his era the Jazz were about on the same level as the Clippers now.

This is a ring defining game.

Thats why i said he's one of the greats but 1 trip to the finals your whole career? Legacy is eh


Can't really argue legacies if u don't know ur history.

Jazz in 97 n 98 finals

[Bash]

Can't really argue legacies if u don't know ur history.

Jazz in 97 n 98 finals

Which year was the push off game winner from jordan?

[Inno]

Jerry west u stupid fuckimg fagots

[Mr. J]

No.

Go back in this thread. I BROUGHT UP KIDD FIRST.

Well that is a childish approach to the necessity of mentioning Kidd
and no I will not go back

Payton
Thomas
Kidd
Johnson
Nash

Stockton is respectable but you are tripping young man

[veritas]

So I am debating against one person who doesn't know history.


At any rate.....I am glad we can finally agree that stockton is under rated and tip 5. Thank you.

[uh-oh]

DAN MAJERLE

[veritas]

We are talking underrated.

I am saying stockon is goat pg and top 5 all time.

You say he isn't and that means he is under rated.

Fair?

[Blanco Bishop]

Which year was the push off game winner from jordan?

Game six. 98.

[PancakeBrah]

Veritas doing his lame meta-troll that he thinks no one truly understands but him. But everyone gets it.

Stockton was the second best player on his team for the majority of his career. So, if Stockton is Top 5 All Time, then Malone is Top 4 All Time. Steals are an empty stat, and mean nothing unless buoyed by better defensive statistics. Magic Johnson is a better point guard than Stockton. Isaiah Thomas is a better point guard than Stockton. Chris Paul is a better point guard than Stockton. To name a few. Your argument against the "RINGZ" argument is correct. You need to look closely at how similar your flimsy surface stats argument is to that same argument you disregard, correctly. Fail troll.

[veritas]

Veritas doing his lame meta-troll that he thinks no one truly understands but him. But everyone gets it.

your perception is amazing!



Stockton was the second best player on his team for the majority of his career.

how do you define best?

So, if Stockton is Top 5 All Time, then Malone is Top 4 All Time.

depends on how you answer the previous question, Daniel.

Steals are an empty stat, and mean nothing unless buoyed by better defensive statistics.

Umm what? What other defensive statistics could buoy them? rebounds? steals are the forced fumbles of the NBA. A steal is a free possession for your offense. In addition, steals are far more difficult to accomplish than any other defensive stat that would buoy them. So.......your argument is invalid and nonsensical. I am beginning to doubt your perception.

Magic Johnson is a better point guard than Stockton. Isaiah Thomas is a better point guard than Stockton. Chris Paul is a better point guard than Stockton. To name a few.

Based upon what criteria? Rings or stats or character?

Your argument against the "RINGZ" argument is correct.

Ok thank you for making enough progress in life to be able to realize how agreeing with me will help you....while also eliminating the idea of rings from your argument...so then if it is stats, Stocktons stats were better than all those you mentioned....sooooo.......what is left>? Your racism because he is white>?

You need to look closely at how similar your flimsy surface stats argument is to that same argument you disregard, correctly. Fail troll.

Well...before I do that, I need to look closely at this statement, because the way you worded it reeks of junior college night classes, and that stench of "I browsed Spinoza for a few minutes at Barnes and Nobles one Sunday afternoon". Unless you are trolling by saying I am trolling when I am not, which makes you the fail troll. OR if you are not trolling, then you are just wrong. Either works for me.

Stockton goat pg. Top 5 all time.

[Sharp]

Can't speak on all time cause I don't follow sports history but of active nba players I feel like Ryan Anderson is an elite role player who always got traded as either a deal sweetener or for nothing. Injuries don't help either. He'll do well with the rockets though


And I love Paul Pierce but Tmac is just better. No shame in that tho

[Allen Knight]

Can't speak on all time cause I don't follow sports history but of active nba players I feel like Ryan Anderson is an elite role player who always got traded as either a deal sweetener or for nothing. Injuries don't help either. He'll do well with the rockets though


And I love Paul Pierce but Tmac is just better. No shame in that tho

http://media3.giphy.com/media/Ph05xuYgrX5te/giphy.gif

[veritas]

Stockton.

[El Muffin]

Lol v