Track review: "Every Day" by Infinity Tha rellik

[Certain]

https://soundcloud.com/isaac-meyer-3/every-day

Hello, Infinity Tha rellik. Let’s start with presentation. Who do you think your audience is? That little pubic patch covering your triple chin doesn’t make you look good. You should consider removing your image from your rap to get a more fair shake from strangers on Soundcloud.

Song comes up. First thing, you don’t know how to mix your vocals. But I get it; you’re doing this on the cheap. That’s why the beat is so simple and also needs to be mixed. The first sign of a total amateur is that tinny sound that dominates these drums.

Then you start rapping. First, let’s look at the lyrics:

“I’m a motherfucking beast on the microphone.
You could all run and hide and then die alone.
Think the Lord’s showing favor, you might be wrong.
I can get you anywhere, even inside your home.”

Honestly, I thought this was a bad hook until you kept going. It’s so simplistic that it made me think you were starting with your garbage hook, something that could be repeated, rather than an actual verse attempting to brag. First, you know how you had to speed up awkwardly at the end of the last line? That’s because you needed to balance your syllables. That wasn’t Ludacris dropping a quick double-time. That was “Oh, shit, this line is two syllables too long for the beat” as though you never realized it in the 85 times you practiced this shit in the mirror before grabbing your iPhone headset to record it. A more glaring point where this happen is when you say “That’s why rap is easy and I’m deadly as cancer.” Along with that line not making any sense, it actually would have flowed properly if you had changed it to “rap’s easy” instead of “rap is easy.” They mean the same thing.

As far as your delivery, it improves as the track goes. You sound like a feeble little bitch to start, like you’re sweating at community college rec center open mic night having never performed before. But you start to figure out how to be a little confident, which is unjustified because the lyrics and flow continue to be bad.

For a song with the attempted quasi-hook of “I do it for the city every day,” you really don’t seem to be putting on for your city at all. Young Jeezy did a song with a similar theme. His song not only was 931 times better than yours, but it also embodied Atlanta rap. That’s his city. He showed us, rather than just telling us.

But the biggest thing here is all this bravado. To use Jeezy as an example again, his delivery really makes you believe him. He swaggers. Even when your delivery perks up, you sound like you might be able to pass if your lyrics were smart. Instead, it’s a lot of very nonspecific tough talk that is neither clever nor original in any way. No one believes you. Actually, I take that back. Someone believes you. You said it yourself, though:

“If it’s just me, then it makes it even sadder.”

[PancakeBrah]

Nessys respects the sacrifice you made in enduring this.

Not going to listen but I cannot say I enjoyed the lyrics you quoted much at all. I respect your critical opinion and thus cosign the review sight unseen.

Stay hustling relic.

We're all going to make it someday.

[Hearder Hearder]

Solid analysis. Going to fuck off for a little awhile. Need a breather.

[Diode]

RIP.

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[Hush]

Solid work

[oats]

repped for the public service

[Finnydot]

Lol..I can't be mad. Someone actually listened. Thanks for the peep.

I'd actually like to know what you thought about Number One also.

[Finnydot]

RIP.

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I've heard much worse and still haven't quit.
Plus, I know you're not gonna listen and formulate your own opinion.

[Ghost1]

read certains review. I believe him. shocker fin wack. move along people nothing to see here./

[~RustyGunZ~]

Really solid thread here certain

[Mr. J]

figured Id humor myself and listen....


the hook was kind of goofy for me, the mic work sounds real computer spit verses.
the hats throughout the song feel very soulless & so does the belief in your voice.
then that random mumble of more money made me laugh because...what?!?!
it reminds me of the locals around here that make these real hype tracks to a bass that should smoothed over.
maybe if you didnt spit your verses so fast I could see the appeal in what you created.
crafted a different intro do something different in acapella and let the beat ride in.
not sure how long you been doing this but its much better than what Ive had the opportunity of listening to with such...Im not sure what word Id use here...Im thinking amateurish but above that a few notches.
anyway you should change your name to Oscar, Isaac...
you got the drive bwoi





even if it is standard...ba dum tss

[2tripple0]

Might give a listen tomorrow.... Either way keep creatingand doing you Infinity Tha rellik don't worry about what others say just keep doing you bro.....I've done a couple audios and peeps wasn't feeling it but ya can't let others stop ya vision just keep reaching for the top you will find someone or something that moves you

[Certain]

Please tell me this man did not ask me to listen to a second track of his.

[Diode]

Please tell me this man did not ask me to listen to a second track of his.

never underestimate his ignorance and lack of civility

[Finnydot]

Please tell me this man did not ask me to listen to a second track of his.

You took the time to listen to one. I didn't sit here and get all in my feelings and tell you "you don't know what you're talking about" and I respected your opinion, did I not?

But if I've got 2 new songs, it kind of irked me I didn't get an opinion on the second when I thought that was actually a superior song.

Just sayin tho...

And appreciate the other feedback from Mr. J.

Think it's hilarious that just because of y'all's opinion of me, 13 posts and only 2 people checked it.

I thought y'all were hip hop heads?

[Certain]

Let me first ask you if you think you are a better rapper than Kendrick Lamar.

[Finnydot]

Let me first ask you if you think you are a better rapper than Kendrick Lamar.

Honestly, when you asked me this question originally I didn't know how to reply. If I came off too braggadocios then I knew I was gonna get shitted on. But I also didn't feel like I could totally dismiss the question either. I actually thought about it a lot.

Realistically, I can't say I am because I don't make any money off this shit.

But Kendrick doesn't make his own beats. So am I a better producer than him? Absolutely. As a dual threat, I'd say there's no one in my city fucking with me.

I got a couple homies that I'm working on a project with that are better MC's than me lyrically. But when it comes to polish, I've just been doing this for too long not to be.

I recorded this shit in less than an hour and mixed it even quicker. This is what happens when I'm without a mic for a while.

"The Eulogy"
https://soundcloud.com/isaac-meyer-3/the-eulogy

You hate on this song, you hate Hip Hop. You hate me? You will never expect me to come like this.

Best beat I've ever made, best all around song I've ever written and it's the realest shit I've ever spoke on record. This is my 9th Symphony. This is my instant classic. This shit got my head so big right now it doesn't even matter what anyone says anymore because it's all right here.

There's literally NOTHING you can say about this shit that's bad. And if you do, I know you're lying. I'm THAT confident in this song. You don't even know what's about to happen.

3 minutes, 36 seconds isn't that long to take out of your day. You don't even listen and say some stupid shit just makes you a ultimate faggot.

I am the best MC on this board. I'm the best MC/Producer in my city. And if this gets out there's no one on God's green Earth that can deny what I felt when I wrote this.

[The Dead Poet]

^beat is decent. I could tweak it in a few places to make it pop more....but it's pretty dope. You just aren't a good rapper though. And your pen game is real lazy...even with the style your going for. Which is a style I mostly listen to.

[Finnydot]

I appreciate the look Poet. I know you're never gonna like my rapping so I just take it when you say I made a good beat. LOL

[The Dead Poet]

its a good beat, it just sounds basic for what it is. I'd put some sort of breakdown/intro/outro with a LP or HP filter with the exact same sounds/sample you used and do a change up with the bass at somepoint and bring is some sort of pad synth and your straight hahaha. But for real....it's a good beat. Good shit.

[boof]

i think its cool man the drums are kinda wack and the overall sound is a little generic but if you had 1 verse and then the other 2 were more interesting rappers i think people would listen to it, spice the hook up a little

[uh-oh]

i fuck with it, hooks dope, i dig the beat. your best track for sure. good shit fin

[oats]

improvement of any craft is two-fold. First, you have to not suck. Second, you have to be good. These are distinct things. This track doesn't suck, but it's not good. With some production polish and cleaner audio, I could see it as a filler track on a mixtape.

I'm sure it's your best track so far, but that's an empty accomplishment. I just watched a documentary where a young Eminem was convinced he couldn't record anything better than Infinite. Obviously, that's stupid. Did Eminem improve as an MC after Infinite? A little, but mostly he improved as an artist because he realized his style. You haven't realized yours.

[Finnydot]

I appreciate all the listens. It means a lot.

[uh-oh]

Eminem didnt record anything better than infinite. Although rock bottom was pretty dope and probably could be seen as better. Post infinite was the commercialised clown around em that dre created. It was always in him, he had humorous bars, but so did plenty of people. But word

Finny your biggest hurdle is your ego. Thats literally the reason you get hate and people not as good as you dont. Even posting that track i understand all the feelings you go through, when i make something worth posting its basically the greatest shit in the world at the time, unless i mention yea this is some quick rough shit or something. But ill try and keep my ego under wraps because people who post on the internet are miserable in general and if they see someone feeling themselves its the extra incentive for them to pick it apart know what im saying. If you post undeniable heat you wont have to sell it as undeniable heat. Itll stand on its own. But word good shit man, and look at this post as a positive since its critiquing how you post, not what you post. Keep banging out

[Finnydot]

Eminem didnt record anything better than infinite. Although rock bottom was pretty dope and probably could be seen as better. Post infinite was the commercialised clown around em that dre created. It was always in him, he had humorous bars, but so did plenty of people. But word

Finny your biggest hurdle is your ego. Thats literally the reason you get hate and people not as good as you dont. Even posting that track i understand all the feelings you go through, when i make something worth posting its basically the greatest shit in the world at the time, unless i mention yea this is some quick rough shit or something. But ill try and keep my ego under wraps because people who post on the internet are miserable in general and if they see someone feeling themselves its the extra incentive for them to pick it apart know what im saying. If you post undeniable heat you wont have to sell it as undeniable heat. Itll stand on its own. But word good shit man, and look at this post as a positive since its critiquing how you post, not what you post. Keep banging out


I hear you bro, all I was saying is that anything negative I wasn't gonna pay no attention. And I'm pretty surprised there really wasn't even anything that terrible said. LOL

But yeah, I got some other shit coming too just gotta get it recorded.

[Witty]

You should pay more attention to the negatives than the positives, that's how you get better. Positive comments are nice but ultimately worthless.

[Diode]

lol

[Finnydot]

You should pay more attention to the negatives than the positives, that's how you get better. Positive comments are nice but ultimately worthless.



The funny thing about music is that's it's art. It's open to criticism for sure, but if it's used primarily for expression then there's really nothing you can say negative about it.

[Diode]

The funny thing about music is that's it's art. It's open to criticism for sure, but if it's used primarily for expression then there's really nothing you can say negative about it.

THEN MAYBE DON'T POST IT ASKING FOR PEOPLE'S OPINIONS IDK GUY

[Witty]

The funny thing about music is that's it's art. It's open to criticism for sure, but if it's used primarily for expression then there's really nothing you can say negative about it.

Art still has a technical aspect which can be measured and critiqued. There's always room to improve, no matter how good you are.

[oats]

The funny thing about music is that's it's art. It's open to criticism for sure, but if it's used primarily for expression then there's really nothing you can say negative about it.

for fuck's sake

[boof]

Did Eminem improve as an MC after Infinite? A little, but mostly he improved as an artist because he realized his style. You haven't realized yours.

*clap emojis*

[Razah]

what are you recording with?

[Finnydot]

I'm just using a shitty stage mic right now. Once I get the whole album hammered out as far as what I want to do, I'm gonna go to a real studio and re-record it.

At least, that's the plan.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Fucking sucks

You'll never realize your style cus you don't have one faggot

[Diode]

Fucking sucks

You'll never realize your style cus you don't have one faggot

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[Finnydot]

Oh well then.. I guess diode and the random dollar sign infested guy with a gun gif as an avatar didn't like it. I'm going to go blow my brains out now.

It's been almost 20 years and I've heard every bad thing imaginable about me and my music.

At some point people just need to realize my "style" is what it is.

Don't like it? That's fine. I'm still going to keep doing it because I enjoy it.

Thx tho.

[Diode]

Didn't even listen to it bc I know your "style" thx girl

[Finnydot]

Didn't even listen to it bc I know your "style" thx girl

Take 3 1/2 minutes out of your day to at least give credence to your bashing.

"Wow, this guy is the worst rapper ever, he sucks. But I don't know for sure because I was too chicken shit to even listen."

Lol what a loser. Dude so scared he might actually like a song of mine he can't even listen and give an honest opinion.

I'd rather be a hated and despised individual for wanting to be creative and take a plunge than sit there and boo from the sideline. Wait... Not even the guys who go to the game to boo are as bad as you. They at least went to the game.

[Diode]

Take 3 1/2 minutes out of your day to at least give credence to your bashing.

"Wow, this guy is the worst rapper ever, he sucks. But I don't know for sure because I was too chicken shit to even listen."

Lol what a loser. Dude so scared he might actually like a song of mine he can't even listen and give an honest opinion.

I'd rather be a hated and despised individual for wanting to be creative and take a plunge than sit there and boo from the sideline. Wait... Not even the guys who go to the game to boo are as bad as you. They at least went to the game.

i'm sorry i don't speak white trash can you pls translate now that Strikta is gone we don't have a native speaker

[uh-oh]

the diode/finny dynamic is one i'll never understand.

diode goes out of his way to be a miserable cunt to him, and finny goes out of his way to engage him and try and sway him.

why either of you engage with eachother makes no sense to me lol

[Diode]

the diode/finny dynamic is one i'll never understand.

diode goes out of his way to be a miserable cunt to him, and finny goes out of his way to engage him and try and sway him.

why either of you engage with eachother makes no sense to me lol

white man problems

:(

[Finnydot]

It's literally a case of under privileged vs over privileged. Diode wishes so bad he had half my talent and charm. Instead he's got gobs of money and he's miserable.

Whereas I'm broke as shit and just hate everyone who thinks they got it better than me.

[Diode]

It's literally a case of under privileged vs over privileged. Diode wishes so bad he had half my talent and charm. Instead he's got gobs of money and he's miserable.

Whereas I'm broke as shit and just hate everyone who thinks they got it better than me.

lol af @ you having talent, charm, or success

YES SO MISERABLE I WISH I WAS FINNY WAHHHHHH

[Finnydot]

lol af @ you having talent, charm, or success

YES SO MISERABLE I WISH I WAS FINNY WAHHHHHH

Obv.

[Diode]

hey man get any new mugshots lately

[Finnydot]

Oh yeah, creepy mother fucker went and found my last arrest record.

You're so weird man.

[Diode]

Oh yeah, creepy mother fucker went and found my last arrest record.

You're so weird man.

just trying to live the dirt life vicariously through you boo

[Finnydot]

just trying to live the dirt life vicariously through you boo

Like I said, obv.

[Diode]

Like I said, obv.

12/13/16

subject has become selfaware

[millz]

It's literally a case of under privileged vs over privileged. Diode wishes so bad he had half my talent and charm. Instead he's got gobs of money and he's miserable.

Whereas I'm broke as shit and just hate everyone who thinks they got it better than me.

I think this is part of your problem fin. Youre framing this in a way to make you feel better about yourself. This is not a question of privilege. It's a case study in decision making. Every time you are faced with decisions you make shit choices. Diode, for every bit of northeast jersey shore douche he can be, made better life decisions and is now reaping the benefits. And that bothers you because he rubs it in your face. And youre pissed because you come from the same place and grew up together (on the internet) Except now he has a good job, a nice house, a wife, and all the fixings of the American dream. And youre still in community college aspiring to be a Taco Bell manager with a life time of regret in your relationship and life decisions.

[Finnydot]

I think this is part of your problem fin. Youre framing this in a way to make you feel better about yourself. This is not a question of privilege. It's a case study in decision making. Every time you are faced with decisions you make shit choices. Diode, for every bit of northeast jersey shore douche he can be, made better life decisions and is now reaping the benefits. And that bothers you because he rubs it in your face. And youre pissed because you come from the same place and grew up together (on the internet) Except now he has a good job, a nice house, a wife, and all the fixings of the American dream. And youre still in community college aspiring to be a Taco Bell manager with a life time of regret in your relationship and life decisions.

Lol

OK dr Phil.

Or maybe I just hate my situation, period. And diode is literally one of 7 billion other people who have it better off than me.

Don't give diode too much credit, he doesn't deserve it.

Funny thing is, I know I'm a loser. I've admitted it for the entirety of our shared knowledge of existence of each other. I'm 30 and in no better position than I was when i was 19. I've been up, I've been really down. And what I've come to find is that music went from super pipe dream to complete catharsis but yet i get the same reaction from strangers on the internet who try to hold my personality defects against my art. I get it, but even when the subject matter is self degradation what's the point on trying to throw a couple more lumps at me?

Honestly, you guys have been telling me to write like this since you've known me. Annoying as I've been to everyone around me in my personal life, I seem to agitate you guys exponentially worse.

Therefore, I've pigeon holed myself into "I hate my life, I should do something about it so I'm going to write and hope I feel better." And your guys response has been consistent "kill yourself for making hip hop".

At some point, I just gotta figure you're all full of shit and I've been doing what I needed to all along.

[Diode]

i don't deserve things because i worked hard for them

but you deserve things because reasons

that's cool

[Diode]

also tbh kiddo nobody here actually cares

like seriously that is the premise of disc

only Bags cared

i miss Bags

rip Bags

[Finnydot]

Lol

You don't care but jump in said thread about music to NOT listen to said music and instead help instigate me or further my depression?

I get it, you don't wanna come off as less of an asshole as you normally do. You can say you're scared to like my music.

[uh-oh]

i don't deserve things because i worked hard for them

but you deserve things because reasons

that's cool

Hes saying you dont deserve credit for being better off than him because everyone is in his eyes.

But while we can all pretend that society matters deep down we all know it doesnt. Finny procreated. His purpose is done.

Diode is on his way.

While diodes social standing makes his offspring more likely to succeed, i would bet on little fin dawg. Diodes kid is coming up priveleged without a worry in the world where as finnys kid has the backing of the government and hardships to sharpen him. Diodes kid may rebel and throw his life away like alot of rich kids like my pops, where as the latter has nowhere to go but up

So in essence you are the same to me. A couple of dudes who havent realized that existence means less than nothing, so how others existing view your existence means nothing

Do what you have to do to enjoy this stage so it goes by quick and can be forgotten

[Diode]

Lol

You don't care but jump in said thread about music to NOT listen to said music and instead help instigate me or further my depression?

I get it, you don't wanna come off as less of an asshole as you normally do. You can say you're scared to like my music.

i didnt do anything in your thread but post flame emjois in response to knuck and your vagina got all swollen and infected

not my problem

[Finnydot]

Hes saying you dont deserve credit for being better off than him because everyone is in his eyes.

But while we can all pretend that society matters deep down we all know it doesnt. Finny procreated. His purpose is done.

Diode is on his way.

While diodes social standing makes his offspring more likely to succeed, i would bet on little fin dawg. Diodes kid is coming up priveleged without a worry in the world where as finnys kid has the backing of the government and hardships to sharpen him. Diodes kid may rebel and throw his life away like alot of rich kids like my pops, where as the latter has nowhere to go but up

So in essence you are the same to me. A couple of dudes who havent realized that existence means less than nothing, so how others existing view your existence means nothing

Do what you have to do to enjoy this stage so it goes by quick and can be forgotten

My son knows I love him and that's what matters. Diode has to hide his emotions under a fake bravado facade he uses on the internet. I can't imagine how he is in real life trying to raise a child. I'm financially unequipped to raise him, he's emotionally unequipped. I'm sure when my son is my age hell prefer the former.

I just do what I've always ever done. People are gonna hate it, that's why I said I won't focus on the negative. But 2 times over this thread went from criticism to personal attacks. As with just about every other thread I've ever made, that's probably why I can't make threads anymore.

Point is, if dude doesn't like me he's not going to listen to my music, let alone tell me I did a good job. Instead, he insists on trying to tear me down still a decade later.

Dude owns a site about hip hop, yet discourages probably one of his most consistently decent contributors. Say whatever the fuck you want about be personally, there's no denying I've gotten better. Funny thing about my production is I've used the same program for over a decade, yet my shit sounds considerably better. I've even gone down in terms of equipment, but my shit sounds better. I've been through hell and back, but I've progressed musically.

I can hear it, you've heard it uh oh. And even on one of my most self revealing songs since probably the one I wrote your beat, this dude comes in trying to bait me. It worked, and guess what? Imma use it. Just like I've used all the negativity over the years.

[Diode]

Hes saying you dont deserve credit for being better off than him because everyone is in his eyes.

But while we can all pretend that society matters deep down we all know it doesnt. Finny procreated. His purpose is done.

Diode is on his way.

While diodes social standing makes his offspring more likely to succeed, i would bet on little fin dawg. Diodes kid is coming up priveleged without a worry in the world where as finnys kid has the backing of the government and hardships to sharpen him. Diodes kid may rebel and throw his life away like alot of rich kids like my pops, where as the latter has nowhere to go but up

So in essence you are the same to me. A couple of dudes who havent realized that existence means less than nothing, so how others existing view your existence means nothing

Do what you have to do to enjoy this stage so it goes by quick and can be forgotten

your nihilism is adorbz

also pls stop thinking im rich

[Diode]

Dude owns a site about hip hop, yet discourages probably one of his most consistently decent contributors.

have a lol

[Diode]

My son knows I love him and that's what matters. Diode has to hide his emotions under a fake bravado facade he uses on the internet. I can't imagine how he is in real life trying to raise a child. I'm financially unequipped to raise him, he's emotionally unequipped. I'm sure when my son is my age hell prefer the former.


your kid is def gonna appreciate you getting arrested and publicly harassing his mom on the internet

totally

[Finnydot]

your nihilism is adorbz

also pls stop thinking im rich

30k a year is rich to me and uhoh and that's lower middle class to you.

50k+ you're set in the hood. Set for life. Lol

[Diode]

30k a year is rich to me and uhoh and that's lower middle class to you.

50k+ you're set in the hood. Set for life. Lol

pls stop referring to the hood

thank you.

also i'd hire uhoh 10/10 over you any day. at least he's a hard worker and emotionally stable (if stunted)

[Finnydot]

E 68th Terrace

https://goo.gl/maps/D1LHE7ukhT52

I didn't do my exact address because I know how creepy you are. Either send the cops to my house or order a bunch of shit I don't want. But use your little Google maps and look at these houses. There's 3 condemned houses on this block. And that's just my street. Funny thing is, this is the same house I've lived in for most of the past decade. I have had 2 white neighbors in the last 10 years and their whole household were meth heads and got kicked out both times.

This isn't even a bad neighborhood is what's the real kicker. I came home from work (when I had a job) and some kids were getting arrested for letting of an ak-47 in broad daylight and at a park. They were 13 years old.

I go 20 blocks north of where I live after dark and I may not make it home. That's probably why I don't go down there.

It's cool tho. You don't have to believe me. I'm in it.

[Diode]

I GOT BLACK NEIGHBORS U DONT EVEN KNOW

[Finnydot]

And you have mostly white neighbors, don't you?

Kinda signifies the suburbs when everyone around you is white.

[Witty]

When did living in a nice area become a bad thing?

[Finnydot]

No, I was stating where I lived. Diode thinks he knows better than me. Once again.

[Diode]

hey man bet you won't reply to this post

[oats]

all my neighbors are Korean

[Diode]

all my neighbors are Korean

all my rowdy friends have settled down

[Finnydot]

You have friends?

I don't see how. Who wants to be friends with a giant sphincter running around shitting on everyone?

[Diode]

You have friends?

I don't see how. Who wants to be friends with a giant sphincter running around shitting on everyone?
you're so fucking dumb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct8V4nF9oOI

[Finnydot]

Ain't nobody gonna listen to that cracker ass honkey tonk, wtf?

You own a hip hop site but post Hank Williams gtfoh.

[Diode]

Ain't nobody gonna listen to that cracker ass honkey tonk, wtf?

You own a hip hop site but post Hank Williams gtfoh.

what if i told you no?

[Finnydot]

Another track for everyone to hate on.

"Just Ain't Good Enough"
https://soundcloud.com/isaac-meyer-3/just-aint-good-enough

[millz]

Being honest the thing that makes your music hard for me to listen to is the fact that your voice and presence is very monotonous. There is nothing dynamic about it so it gets completely lost. The beat almost always dominates your vocals. And your flow and cadence is almost 100% on repeat for the entire song. There is no change up or veering off the same structured schemes. Unless you have an extra syllable or two and you rush them in awkwardly to stay on beat.

[Finnydot]

So by that rationale you don't like rakim. Not a comparison lyrically or even sheer talent but definitely an influence mine. That man could make whole songs with the same flow and same scheme and has repeatedly over the years and killed it.

Once again I'm not directly comparing in skill but by your criticism it sounds like you wouldn't be a fan.

Although it's not a complaint I hear often, I guess the specific reason I had an issue with this one is the fact that I was literally going for that. I generally don't like to keep the same scheme going as long as i did in specific parts of this song strictly for emphasis. Take the first verse as an example. When I end with "I know you thick headed but the problem isn't difficult" I immediately went to a COMPLETELY different set of rhymes and flow for the second half of the verse and carried that to the end. I thought it added a decent effect as in a crescendo I hadn't been able to pull off in a while.

Whereas the cadence was intentional as well since I didn't want to come off as angry, instead more calm and cool. As if to give the impression I had already moved on.

I don't take offense to anything anyone says anymore, so don't take this rebuttal for anything other than it is, that in this SPECIFIC song your complaints are legitimate but they were intentional.

As always, i appreciate the listen.

[uh-oh]

finny the songs ok.

i just typed a long winded reply and deleted it because its just frustrating at this point. im not a fan of you as a rapper. but my only advice i can give comes from my own experiences, and thats in the beatmaking world. i thought the beat was ok but the song was just boring. but my main thing when im making music is to be more critical of myself, than anyone else is going to be. so if i feel like what i made is good enough to share, than its probably good enough for people to hear.

i'm not critical in the sense like well this should be good enough for peoples expectations. my expectations are higher than anyone elses. so even if i'm wrong and it isnt as good as i think. its still good enough to garner respect from the common jabroni.

so basically stop loving your own music so much lol. be like me and hate what you make. so when you do make something you enjoy, its that much better. if that makes sense?

thats really the only constructive criticism i can give you, to help you get to a point where people wholeheartedly enjoy your music.

be a bigger critic of yourself, than anyone else is going to be and you'll get better. you're writing is getting better. but rapping is just as broad of a pursuit as making beats. and you already know how varied that approach can be. writing is just like drum programming. you still gotta be able to play shit out, chop samples, arrange songs etc. your cadence is how you choose to ride the beat, you always ride beats the same. you're delivery is how you choose to come off, meaning like if your hype or mad, or cool and calm etc. but word cadence/flow is the same shit.

you know all this. in essence be harder on yourself and you will get better

[Witty]

Your refusal to listen to constructive criticism will stop you improving.

[Witty]

And like Uh-Oh said, be your own biggest critic.

I hate nearly everything I've ever written, but others seem to like what I write.

[Finnydot]

I also has a long winded response. Typed it all on my phone too and now I'm on my PC, this is so much easier.

Basically I was saying yet again that millz complaint was a legitimate complaint, but I dismissed it because what he was complaining about was the actual style I was going for. But like I always, I read his response and tried to respond without dismissing his advice, but rather regurgitating what he said as confirmation I understood his complaint and attempted to show gratitude for him even giving me a listen.

I literally tried to squeeze everything positive I could out of his post. Assimilate and process, move on was the entire thought process in that post.

As far as you go...

You know I hear everything you say. You're the only one who hasn't dogged me to death over the years and always attempt to give me some sort of pat on the back even tho you don't necessarily care for all my shit.

I'm 30 years old now. I'm passed the point of feeling like I should hang it up, or quit just because some kids on the internet don't like it. I actually stopped for about 4-5 years because a number of reasons... Had a kid, depression, lack of an audience, that whole thing.

What I've come to find is that I'm not worried about success at this point. It's straight catharsis for me. Now, in the back of my head there is still the part of me that wants to impress, or get some sort of positive feedback because that's the GOOD, right? That's a BONUS if you will to me sitting back and saying "you know... that's actually kinda decent."

My argument to the whole "if I don't listen to anyone I'm never going to get better" is I've been listening to people online for over 15 years and if I'm not "better" by now then I'm probably never going to be. In my opinion, it feels like half the people that post in my threads don't even care to listen, they just wanna throw some shit at me.

So the people who DO listen, I try to say shit like "thanks man, I appreciate the listen" and take some cliff notes, stick'em in the back of my head and hope the next time I do something they think it's an improvement. However, once you work the same equation over and over and over and over and you keep getting the same sum, at some point you gotta change the equation.

If I've stagnated, or regressed, or I just plain flat out am just going to suck at this the rest of my life, then what is the goal I'm trying to achieve? Peace in my heart, man. That's it.

If you haven't noticed my writing has gotten much more personal over the past even few months then I don't know what to tell you.

I'm never going to be Talib and have the back packers dissecting every line trying to figure out what i REALLY meant, and I'm not going to be a jay-z that can do it off the top of his head and sell millions. I just try to write for myself and if people enjoy it, that's fine.

Expect the worst and if you get a halfway decent comment then that's why you do it.

I've always been the guy lacking a filter from my brain to the keys, so you know any post about my music is going to be long and detailed. Which gives the impression that I'm salty or that I'm trying too hard to convince someone else and it comes across as contrived or forced.

Essentially, I know who I am now. I'm trying to learn to be okay with that.

If you don't like this one, maybe next one might be decent.

[Finnydot]

And like Uh-Oh said, be your own biggest critic.

I hate nearly everything I've ever written, but others seem to like what I write.

I'm too big a critic of myself in every other aspect of my life that it paralyzes me. If you knew me longer you'd know exactly what I mean. I'm socially awkward, I'm not a hard worker. Hell, I'm not even as smart as I used to think I was. I understand my short comings, but it's been an impossible task for me to rise above my personality defects and lead a normal life. That's why when I write something, I write till I'm satisfied. Maybe that's the dichotomy that's been holding me back the longest. Idk, I'm not a psychologist.

Self analysis and attempting to improve oneself financially, emotionally, and even spiritually are all just causes. However, when I've failed at every single one of those and my coping mechanism is recording? You tend to roll with what you put out. As stated, if someone likes it or considers it an improvement on the last one, all you can do is appreciate it even more.

[Diode]

nothing ever changes.

"your critique isn't wrong, but let me tell you why it's wrong JUST IN THIS INSTANCE OK"

does it ever get old for you?

[Finnydot]

nothing ever changes.

"your critique isn't wrong, but let me tell you why it's wrong JUST IN THIS INSTANCE OK"

does it ever get old for you?

No, what does get old is your constant ridicule and the total lack of respect for an art form that your site is SUPPOSED to support. You now own 2 different websites where you've single handedly driven your active members away from your stone casting. You wanna throw everyone else under the bus for creating but you don't create anything yourself. You're literally a drain on something you pay the bills for.

Lemme ask you a legit question. When was the last time you checked anyone's music here, let alone my own?

Why don't you do something productive with your opportunities? You have enough knowledge of hosting, security, and basic design you could have done something like host a Ben Grimm album on PR as an exclusive. Or had an actual tournament to promote the culture of what these text clowns try to imitate?

The one difference between me and everyone else is regardless of what people say I still serve it up. You may hate the chef, hate his meal, but you're sitting on prime real estate, yet not providing someone else the opportunity to capitalize on your resources.

Instead of putting me down the last decade plus, you could have contributed in my development in some sort of positive light. Say my songs are terrrrrrrrrribble, whatever. Doesn't change the fact a lot of people have liked my beats over the years. Why not have an embedded plug in for either PR or here and market me and uh oh beats?

Do SOMETHING instead of running people off or talking shit at people who are actual contributers?
You're contribution to hip hop has been 2 failed hip hop sites.

My contributions have been 15 years of CREATING.

[Diode]

No, what does get old is your constant ridicule and the total lack of respect for an art form that your site is SUPPOSED to support. You now own 2 different websites where you've single handedly driven your active members away from your stone casting. You wanna throw everyone else under the bus for creating but you don't create anything yourself. You're literally a drain on something you pay the bills for.

Lemme ask you a legit question. When was the last time you checked anyone's music here, let alone my own?

Why don't you do something productive with your opportunities? You have enough knowledge of hosting, security, and basic design you could have done something like host a Ben Grimm album on PR as an exclusive. Or had an actual tournament to promote the culture of what these text clowns try to imitate?

The one difference between me and everyone else is regardless of what people say I still serve it up. You may hate the chef, hate his meal, but you're sitting on prime real estate, yet not providing someone else the opportunity to capitalize on your resources.

Instead of putting me down the last decade plus, you could have contributed in my development in some sort of positive light. Say my songs are terrrrrrrrrribble, whatever. Doesn't change the fact a lot of people have liked my beats over the years. Why not have an embedded plug in for either PR or here and market me and uh oh beats?

Do SOMETHING instead of running people off or talking shit at people who are actual contributers?
You're contribution to hip hop has been 2 failed hip hop sites.

My contributions have been 15 years of CREATING.

i ran PR from 2005 forward. lithix literally set up vb and bailed.

you're a moron who thinks the next great rap star is coming from an antiquated internet forum

stahp

just

stahp

what killed forums? social media.

moron.

[Finnydot]

I'm not saying I am or anyone else is going to "blow up" but you could contribute SOMETHING other than tearing people down all the time.

I can admit I'm a worthless piece of shit, but you can't even admit to yourself your an asshole.

[Stayt]

Having an outlet is good, for the most part, but you've been pretty bad at rap for decades now. I think there is a much better use of your time. Not even hating. The image doesn't work for you. The rapping doesn't work. I mean.. I haven't been on the boards in forever, but it always seemed that you'd do much better by giving up rap and going a different route.

[Finnydot]

Having an outlet is good, for the most part, but you've been pretty bad at rap for decades now. I think there is a much better use of your time. Not even hating. The image doesn't work for you. The rapping doesn't work. I mean.. I haven't been on the boards in forever, but it always seemed that you'd do much better by giving up rap and going a different route.

It's just funny to me because the internet kids all hate my shit but all of my 10-20 friends i still have in the real world all tell me to keep focusing on what I want to do and are actually supportive.

I'm not the most popular person even in the real world, but everyone I know says to keep it up.

If I listened to everyone here I woulda put a gun in my mouth a long time ago.

[uh-oh]

yea you don't gotta take the negatives to heart

all i was saying is if you want to continue to get better you can't be content with where you are already at. you gotta pick apart your own music for flaws that you can see, and moving forward make music with that in mind. constantly work to be better. nothing is more embarrassing to me than listening to something i made in 08 for example. there is so much shit i wouldn't let slide now.

my problem is i peaked in 2012 lol. i havent really gotten better. i've made beats i like more than beats i made then, but skillwise i'm stagnant

but word i'd never tell you to stop. i'm not a fan of your rapping, but i'm not a fan of the vast majority of rappers. thats preferential shit. your good though keep banging out

[Finnydot]

yea you don't gotta take the negatives to heart

all i was saying is if you want to continue to get better you can't be content with where you are already at. you gotta pick apart your own music for flaws that you can see, and moving forward make music with that in mind. constantly work to be better. nothing is more embarrassing to me than listening to something i made in 08 for example. there is so much shit i wouldn't let slide now.

my problem is i peaked in 2012 lol. i havent really gotten better. i've made beats i like more than beats i made then, but skillwise i'm stagnant

but word i'd never tell you to stop. i'm not a fan of your rapping, but i'm not a fan of the vast majority of rappers. thats preferential shit. your good though keep banging out

I hear you...

But no one hears me. LOL

specifically in the LAST SONG i posted i started the second verse STRICTLY talking about this SPECIFIC subject.

Turns out you were right about everything/
Can't hold a job down, can't do anything/
Tried to do the rap thing, still ain't made a dollar/
What a fuckin tragedy, guess it had to be the product like...
The beats are fine, you're voice OK/
But wit every single line have some shit to say/

ALL THAT SHIT IS SUPER SIMPLE, RIGHT?!

ABC rhymes, wack shit.

But then I go into..

So this track's dedicated to the homies and the ladies/
Wit a goal of getting faded for a whole new situation/
I know I'm kinda crazy, I don't need another baby/
I just wanna get to know you have a little conversation/
Maybe later we could ride like, nowhere in particular/
I'm tired of acting smart, I ain't always this articulate/
Seems so ridiculous, specially if I ain't hittin it/
I ain't trynna argue, just tell me if you interested/
My name's Finny if you wit it come on/
There's just only one rule... no fallin in love.

Like, I get it that I'm not the most wittiest dude of all time with punch lines and shit, but to say I'm the worst rapper ever is just ignorant and I can tell people jump in this shit just to rag on me.

Out of the last 10 people to reply to this thread, I only had 7 listens on that track and I think at least 2 of them were me.

So that's just proof, people don't even listen or care to listen.

What I've been talking about the last 2 songs is getting that self awareness out there that I FULLY UNDERSTAND I'M A PIECE OF SHIT. Probably DON'T have any reason making rap music anymore. But guess what? It's the ONLY thing I have right now to make me feel better.

And like I said... if people like it it's a bonus, it doesn't mean that I'm looking for it. Regardless, I had fun making the beat and writing and recording that song.

Truthfully, if I get laid once from a chick who hears that song and likes it then that's worth 100 "shit's dope" replies.

[Finnydot]

Either which way, I got some shit i gotta record for y'all.

I've been holding off on it because I was thinking about writing a 3rd verse but I got y'all. I got every god damn hater's number on this next one. For sure.

[sral]

I'm not saying I am or anyone else is going to "blow up" but you could contribute SOMETHING other than tearing people down all the time.

I can admit I'm a worthless piece of shit, but you can't even admit to yourself your an asshole.

you're*

[sral]

It's just funny to me because the internet kids all hate my shit but all of my 10-20 friends i still have in the real world all tell me to keep focusing on what I want to do and are actually supportive.

of course they do. they think its what you want to hear.

the question you really need to be asking yourself here then is "are they real friends if they would lie to my face like that, and tell me to pursue something that they can clearly see I'm inept at?"

you need a critical ear, and ppl here have lent you one

we have no obligation to tell you you're the next best thing, we aren't here to stroke your ego, and regardless of positive/negative reception from us you have to accept that and move on

we have kept it real with you

a real friend would straight up tell you its not working out for you and to go a different route

know your lane, Finny

this clearly isn't it

[Finnydot]

you're*

Was on my phone, auto correct.

[sral]

TBH I haven't listened to it but I take Certain at his word

[sral]

Was on my phone, auto correct.

just tryna help is all bro

[Finnydot]

TBH I haven't listened to it but I take Certain at his word

Case in point.

Way to be a conformist.

[Diode]

Case in point.

Way to be a conformist.

KYS