What defines a textcee as one of the GOATs?

[sral]

For me, personally, it’s all about longevity – and consistency over an extended period – the ability to beat and compete among the very best there are.

You’ll find several dominant textcees who remained at the pinnacle through their eras. The likes of Aloe, Fracture, Resin etc in the battle world. The likes of Richard Corey, Tali Rodriguez and ThaTalent in the topical realm.

It’s all subjective, of course, but the likes of those named are generally thrown around when the topic gets brought up. I think it’s largely due to their longevity in the game, and their styles being so well honed, that makes me think of these as some of the GOATs in their fields.

Yes, some have beaten them, but in a one-off battle I honestly believe anyone can beat anyone on their day providing they’ve done this a short while enough to understand what works. This doesn’t mean you’re also a great. And here we head back to my initial point about consistency. These guys have beat and competed against the very best, consistently, over a number of years and come out on top. These are the elite of the elite tier. The best of the best. And that, to me, makes them join the GOAT tier.

Who the very best are is another subjective thread for another time, but that’s how I define my GOATs. Of course, some have done this 10+ years and still suck. There’s no hope for them if they’ve deluded themselves this long.

No shade thrown, just opinion.

[Strikta]

Here to say I agree that anyone can beat anyone provided they have the experience to know what works. It's all about effort, & being free from distractions imo.. in the battle game anyway.

I've beaten some of the best & lost to some fucking no names(not often tho).

Even a blind squirrel gets a nut some day.

Consistency is definitely the measure when talking GOATs tho, obviously.

[Diode]

Of course, some have done this 10+ years and still suck. There’s no hope for them if they’ve deluded themselves this long.

No shade thrown, just opinion.

mean.

[sral]

Here to say I agree that anyone can beat anyone provided they have the experience to know what works. It's all about effort, & being free from distractions imo.. in the battle game anyway.

I've beaten some of the best & lost to some fucking no names(not often tho).

Even a blind squirrel gets a nut some day.

Consistency is definitely the measure when talking GOATs tho, obviously.

I have a few notable (to me) wins against Sephiroth, Serge and the good Metts brother. I would freely admit to not being the text battler those guys are/were at their primes though.

I was always more a topical head, especially over the course of the last 7-8 years.

In my younger, naive, RapBattles/RipTheMic days I was predominantly a text battler (albeit not a very good one).

TL;DR: I am one of the topical GOATs. Even @deadman ducked a battle vs me this week. Pent uP has ducked me twice now in significant tourneys here. I beat Certain, beat Vulgar, beat @unbornbuddah, beat Adonis, beat @Mr.j, beat Objective, beat Frank beat MMLP, BEAT Nigma with a verse I keyed on short notice after he got noshowed, I posted the same day and won, beat timeless, beat Innovator Who do I need to beat to finally solidify my spot with gorillas, huh?

[sral]

lmao infact here is the current AOWL roster:

Week 1: Adonis (0-0) vs. Mr. J (0-0) - Beat both these guys already. Mr. J got that 7-0 shutout treatment in the tourney finals. Ooooooosht!

Week 1: Legion (0-0) vs. Frank (0-0) - Already beat Frank to be crowned a champ. Legion was never signed in until just now. He can get this work.

Week 1: MMLP (0-0) vs. 2tripple0 (0-0) - Beat both these guys already. No interest in a rematch. MMLP my boy but he got Brian Bryan'd 13-0.

Week 1: Jesodist (0-0) vs. Timeless (0-0) - Beat Timeless already like 3-4 times, we've battled at PR also and I won there too. Pretty sure I beat Jesodist already but he can catch this work a second time if i'm mistaken?

Legion JESODIST if either of you want it, LETS FUCKING GO

[sral]

nvm jesodist got 8-0'd too, just checked

http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=123111&highlight=jesodist

[MMLP]

Frank v Diablo. .. make it happen

[~RustyGunZ~]

Cherry vs diablo

[Diablo]

already beat him tbh, 7-0 victory

http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=120842&highlight=Lars+frank

zero interest

nothing to gain from it

[~RustyGunZ~]

You never beat me

No one enters the hall until they slay the dragon

[Diablo]

lmao you don't want that work

[~RustyGunZ~]

That loss looking lonely homegirl

[Diablo]

lmao if you can sign in and go 3-0, I'll give you a shot at a legend how about that?

we already discussed longevity and consistency at the start of this thread and you've neither

why would you think you're worthy?

I should make you battle diode first before even entertaining the thought

[~RustyGunZ~]

Lol I've stayed above .750 over a decade even with all my no shows only the great have beat me

[Diablo]

you a good guy Seth

but you not 64 line verses every week for the last 15 years good

[~RustyGunZ~]

Rican done wrote a minimum of 80 lines a week since nam boi

Foh with that bullshit

[Diode]

I should make you battle diode first before even entertaining the thought

i only upset topical heroes

[Diablo]

lmao is this even a battle the site wanna see, NC?

i think of myself as a good judge on what the ppl want to see and this has absolutely zero interest outside of this thread imho

[Diablo]

i only upset topical heroes

lmao even diode wiping his hand of you schnozzberg


for shame

[Witty]

Have we battled sraL?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Shook

I'd son you freal

[Enbombz]

It's all about the check in/

[Finnydot]

lol...

Being the best textcee in the world is like being the most popular kid in the AV club.

It's not really something you could use as a conversation starter with a chick at the bar, or even in a normal conversation.

I'd rather be the most hated MC on the internet than be the most popular textcee, IMO.

[Strikta]

^Stfu pussy.

U think we don't know that shit already?

[Strikta]

It's all about the check in/

Dead.

[Diablo]

Have we battled sraL?

lmao you no showed, as ever

[Diablo]

Shook

I'd son you freal

prove it

beat someone worth me taking note of then I'll face you

[Diablo]

lol...

Being the best textcee in the world is like being the most popular kid in the AV club.

It's not really something you could use as a conversation starter with a chick at the bar, or even in a normal conversation.

I'd rather be the most hated MC on the internet than be the most popular textcee, IMO.

why are you even here?

[Schadenfreude]

sraL Who is/was Aloe? I've seen that name thrown around a lot.

Specifically has he battled on BBoys, RB and/or here?

[Legion Of Cocks in my mouth]

lmao infact here is the current AOWL roster:

Week 1: Adonis (0-0) vs. Mr. J (0-0) - Beat both these guys already. Mr. J got that 7-0 shutout treatment in the tourney finals. Ooooooosht!

Week 1: Legion (0-0) vs. Frank (0-0) - Already beat Frank to be crowned a champ. Legion was never signed in until just now. He can get this work.

Week 1: MMLP (0-0) vs. 2tripple0 (0-0) - Beat both these guys already. No interest in a rematch. MMLP my boy but he got Brian Bryan'd 13-0.

Week 1: Jesodist (0-0) vs. Timeless (0-0) - Beat Timeless already like 3-4 times, we've battled at PR also and I won there too. Pretty sure I beat Jesodist already but he can catch this work a second time if i'm mistaken?

Legion JESODIST if either of you want it, LETS FUCKING GO

Sign in AOWL !

[Strikta]

sraL Who is/was Aloe? I've seen that name thrown around a lot.

Specifically has he battled on BBoys, RB and/or here?

Prowlers/UPN heavy hitter.

Used to body cats in a major way in the young 2000s.

[Schadenfreude]

Oh OK, good shit Strikta.

[Aero]

Oh OK, good shit Strikta.

Hey hun. You about ready for takedown?

and Aloe was dope, in my top 10.

[Schadenfreude]

Hey hun. You about ready for takedown?

and Aloe was dope, in my top 10.

Just drop homo.

[Aero]

Just drop homo.


lol I will... Should be good.

[Inno]

I have a few notable (to me) wins against Sephiroth, Serge and the good Metts brother. I would freely admit to not being the text battler those guys are/were at their primes though.

I was always more a topical head, especially over the course of the last 7-8 years.

In my younger, naive, RapBattles/RipTheMic days I was predominantly a text battler (albeit not a very good one).

TL;DR: I am one of the topical GOATs. Even @deadman ducked a battle vs me this week. Pent uP has ducked me twice now in significant tourneys here. I beat Certain, beat Vulgar, beat @unbornbuddah, beat Adonis, beat @Mr.j, beat Objective, beat Frank beat MMLP, BEAT Nigma with a verse I keyed on short notice after he got noshowed, I posted the same day and won, beat timeless, beat Innovator Who do I need to beat to finally solidify my spot with gorillas, huh?


I don't think we have topical battled yet. Tbh I look forward to it

[Stayt]

I mean, I'm triple OG vet status, but it's like... I come back, and people don't know me or don't show the auto respect I deserve. Pretty fucked up tbh. Like. Yo. U ain't remember when Loot and I tagged up and too down RC and Severe? You don't remember my tropicals merking all? Was 2003 just a dream and I didn't revlutionice the text game?!?!

[uh-oh]

watsup you sexy PRICK

[Stayt]

What up jumbo? How's Ohio?
Shoot me a link so I can hear the latest jams yo.

[uh-oh]

https://soundcloud.com/jameshalton/sets/past-10-years

yooooo. ohio is good. i busted my ass when i stepped off my porch this morning, slipping on pure ice in my driveway. no one was around to see though so i shook it off like a champ. WINTER. but yea things good out here, same old same old. how's san diego? still 70 and sunny year round?

[Stayt]

Fuck ice. Unless it's the crushed shit you get at chick fil a.

Sd is good. Still the dopest weather possible and full of fine white and Latina women for me. Losing our gay ass football team tho. Fuck the owners. And fuck the idiots in sd for not approving a stadium.
Everything else is dope. Got into the truck game, so I've been working on that and taking trips to stay busy. You get another blazer yet??

[uh-oh]

NAH

still thuggin in the bronco. still running strong, just rustier than it was. this is my third winter in it, and the salt on the roads up here is terrible for cars. i can spend 1000 and fully repair it basically, get new fenders, weld new quarter panels on it, new rocker panels, and basically make it look clean again, but i'm a bum. im making decent money now and probably should, but i think i'm just gonna wait till it starts running a little funky, than fix everything, and have it painted at work before selling it to someone else lol. then put that money with something else to upgrade

i dig it though, and might just get another one but get like an eddie bauer kenny powers one with the leather seats and chrome. mines kinda barebones

what kind of truck did you get?

[Stayt]

Dope. I love Broncos. Is it the OJ version? Or Bronco 2?

I got a 4runner. Did up the wheels, tires, suspension, and cb radio. Got a bunch of work to do next year too, but I love this fucking thing.

Leave the ugly panels. Just make sure it drives well. ...and yeah, maybe fix that up before you sell it.

[Stayt]

Oh. Shit.

Forgot to mention.

I have this on the way

http://i65.tinypic.com/oua4a9.jpg

[uh-oh]

lmao dope

and yea i got the OJ type bronco, the bigger ones. his was like a 92 or whatever though i got the 96, and he had all the extras, leather, chrome, running boards and shit where mine is barebones.

but good shit. i was gonna get new wheels and shit but i was going to do that when i fixed and painted everything and never got around to it. i got some flowmaster exhaust ready to be put on too just sitting in my locker at work lol. every time i've had the money to do it i just blow it on bullshit like a G. lol.

but yea the truck life is where its at

[Diablo]

you have Adam Bomb as your avatar

you cool as fuck in my book

[oats]

I think longevity is one thing, but I also think actual ability is as important. You do this long enough and you'll add up accomplishments and beat notable names etc, and that's good, but a 10 year B to B+ level text run isn't as impressive to me as a 2 year A+ run nah mean.
sraL is definitely top 5 all time topical imo, not just cuz of longevity but also talent. I'd put myself top 15-20 due to lack of longevity, but skill-wise I'll shit on the majority of the people who are ranked above me 9/10.

[uh-oh]

we all know i'm an all time great text battler

by lars' logic though, ill nik-a is an all time great

he's been battling literally my entire forum existence, and hes always battled the top guys, and he even wins some times.

[Diablo]

lmao nik-A been a legend tho

no need to throw shade on him like that

[Diablo]

Sign in AOWL !

you dont really want that

[Diode]

Dead af @ he even wins sometimes
quaker oats what is wrong with a b+ guy?

YES! YES! YES!

[oats]

veiled Diego reference, Diode? nothing's wrong with B+ folk. they're quite necessary; they help bring out the best in us A+ folk ;)

[sral]

lmao was 10+ years B aimed at me?

I didn't even catch that if so hahaha

I'm at least an A in the game surely

[oats]

it wasn't aimed at anyone sraL, more of a general statement. I said you're easily top 5 all time. STILL DUCKIN ME THO

[sral]

lmao I aint never ducked nobody

you don't get as many accolades or champ as much shit as me by not being willing to compete

I can safely say I have one of the highest never-no showing records on this entire site

I think the last battle I 'noshowed' was vs KungFuGrip when my dad was taken into hospital with a heart attack years ago

I am forever a man of my word

you crew though oats, crew don't really battle crew

ive always said that's how i got down unless it was for a tourney or league

im old skool in that respect i guess

ive no interest in battling a crew member

we're crew because we have a mutual respect

[Diode]

veiled Diego reference, Diode? nothing's wrong with B+ folk. they're quite necessary; they help bring out the best in us A+ folk ;)

was a daniel bryan reference

for shame, oatey. for shame.

[Diode]

imma b+ tho

[Strikta]

Kung woulda beat that ass. sraL

[oats]

lol I know, you da man sraL.

I was never really a fan of wrestling Diode. closest I ever came to it is when I got my DVD copy of The Marine signed by John Cena.

[sral]

lmao no way in hell diode a B+ tier writer though

I like you diode, but text is the one thing in life you just cant buy yourself to the top of

[Finnydot]

imma b+ tho

You definitely are a bitch+.

WORDPLAYZ.

[Diode]

lmao no way in hell diode a B+ tier writer though

I like you diode, but text is the one thing in life you just cant buy yourself to the top of

i know you get very upset over this, but half the writers on your annual top whatever list have been beaten by me

every topical tournament on this site i've made it to the semis for with "upsets" all the way. the below is just my ncs record. stars next to consensus contenders year in/out

wins (no shows not included):

vulgar*
mike wrecka
thisisdam
fresh (lolololol but seriously lol)
just write
zygote*
neutral*
razah
nycspitz*
copypat*

losses (no shows not included)

l: oats 10-0 (worst loss but it was short verse tourney)
l: adonis 9-7 (OT)
l: pent 5-4 (OT)


i'm sorry you don't like my writing but facts is facts breznev

[Diode]

You definitely are a bitch+.

WORDPLAYZ.

this is why you dont get to post topics

[Finnydot]

this is why you dont get to post topics

Because you get to talk shit, but I don't?

[Diode]

Because you get to talk shit, but I don't?

exactly.

fyi certain is the one who banned you from making threads jjajajajajajajaja

[Finnydot]

exactly.

fyi certain is the one who banned you from making threads jjajajajajajajaja

So...

You'd rather be viewed as an asshole, view yourself as an asshole, act like an asshole, than hit a goddamn button.

Ok.

[Diablo]

lmao neutral got a star by his name?

I don't even know if that guy posts here

roflzzz

[Destroyer]

Here's what defines it

Not considering topical writers as greats

[Destroyer]

Except for black d
That dude went hard as fuck

[Diode]

lmao neutral got a star by his name?

I don't even know if that guy posts here

roflzzz

Alias. Winter Tourney IIRC.

[Barcotic]

Here's what defines it

Not considering topical writers as greats

[uh-oh]

topical writers>

[Adonis]

I mean, I'm triple OG vet status, but it's like... I come back, and people don't know me or don't show the auto respect I deserve. Pretty fucked up tbh. Like. Yo. U ain't remember when Loot and I tagged up and too down RC and Severe? You don't remember my tropicals merking all? Was 2003 just a dream and I didn't revlutionice the text game?!?!



Stayt of mind? If so, I still remember being destroyed by a sick verse you wrote about origami. I never lost so bad

[Adonis]

I'm just here to say I beat Lars and diode


Obviously I'm the greatest thing ever right?

[Strikta]

If u can't write a good topical u shouldn't even be doing text imo.

[Destroyer]

This is the part where I like to point out that I beat pent up in my first ever topical match

[Destroyer]

Flawlessly

[Barcotic]

only done 3 topicals
2 of 3 made hof

v/battlers point

[Destroyer]

Battlers have to do so much more then topical writers to stay consistently successful over a long period of time. All the topical writer has to do to remain successful, is be a good writer. A battler has to know who he's battling change his style up based on who that is learn personal shit to use and have an all-around knowledge of what is popular in battle rhymes at any given moment

[uh-oh]

also lack the ability to write anything that remotely flows

but honestly you have to be good at both obviously to be a goat

i don't know who barcotic is and i doubt i've ever read a destroyer verse but i think its safe to say neither of you are close to great. unless barcotic is someone or something

[Destroyer]

Well I have read every one of your verses and I think it's safe to say that you are a great
So fuck you

[uh-oh]

i take that back

destroyer is an all time GREAT

[Legion Of Cocks in my mouth]

Text was more fun when there were crews and beef

[Destroyer]

Now we're talking...

[Diablo]

Battlers have to do so much more then topical writers to stay consistently successful over a long period of time. All the topical writer has to do to remain successful, is be a good writer. A battler has to know who he's battling change his style up based on who that is learn personal shit to use and have an all-around knowledge of what is popular in battle rhymes at any given moment

In the Winter Topical tourney, I sent all of my opponents a list of their positives/negatives in writing (to me) and told them how I intended to exploit that during my verse to win. I use the same style, but the approach and execution differs from opponent to opponent depending on who I'm facing, knowing your opponent and how they're likely to play their game works well for me. I can surprise them by coming with something left field to capitalise.

There's more to this than writing a story to win.

[oats]

lol "all a topical writer has to do is be a good writer"

[oats]

also, I haven't read many of Diode's verses, but from what I've seen he's legit.

[UnbornBuddha]

This thread was a good read. I definitely still have ways to improve, but I have reached semi-finals to finals in most of the leagues and tournaments I have competed in. Particularly AWOL 4-6, I wasn't around before then. But not bad, considering I'm fairly new to this. Hope this still exists ten years from now. Fingers crossed.

[Witty]

also lack the ability to write anything that remotely flows

Hi, have you met Witty?

[Useless]

Hi, have you met Witty?

Yeah, he's a fgt

[Legion Of Cocks in my mouth]

Yeah, he's a fgt

true

[Stayt]

In the Winter Topical tourney, I sent all of my opponents a list of their positives/negatives in writing (to me) and told them how I intended to exploit that during my verse to win.

Not sure if serious....?

I'm going to assume your serious, and reserve this space to laugh at you.

[Diablo]

I won the tourney

So I can't have been far wrong with my predictions of how they would write and what i needed to do to beat them, can I?

[Witty]

Yeah, he's a fgt

true

[Stayt]

I won the tourney

So I can't have been far wrong with my predictions of how they would write and what i needed to do to beat them, can I?

Yeahhhhhh. Kewl. Still one of the nerdier things I've read.

[Diablo]

lmao lot of hate in here from people that have never beat me, tbh

you can't argue with my linguistic breakdown of each opponent

[Enbombz]

Battlers have to do so much more then topical writers to stay consistently successful over a long period of time. All the topical writer has to do to remain successful, is be a good writer. A battler has to know who he's battling change his style up based on who that is learn personal shit to use and have an all-around knowledge of what is popular in battle rhymes at any given moment

Word.

[Tha Pastor Reach Yeah]

Diablo dude, you need to come back.

[Diode]

Diablo dude, you need to come back.

.. that's just one of sraL's many aliases.

[Tha Pastor Reach Yeah]

.. that's just one of sraL's many aliases.

Oh. Then forget it. Lol

[Geno]

Adonis. you sure the origami verse wasnt written by me? thought used that for you? could be wrong, might be thinking of an OM but thought i used it in battle. pic battle?

[sral]

Oh. Then forget it. Lol

lmao I just love how serious people think I'm being when I post bullshit like I did earlier in this thread

pancake putting up walls of text (all be it sarcastically) in response

got 'em

[Tha Pastor Reach Yeah]

lmao I just love how serious people think I'm being when I post bullshit like I did earlier in this thread

pancake putting up walls of text (all be it sarcastically) in response

got 'em

Lol tbh I thought it was kinda funny if it was true, kinda funny if not!

[Frank]

http://media4.giphy.com/media/Er3QVX48nt5ok/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47p8qlo4taeikjr1yzg8fdiaxux8rl sgk6k2y85owh&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Frank]

bump