Racism is a mental illness

[uh-oh]

But being transgender isnt.

Thats enough internet for the day.

[Geno]

Lol

[Inno]

why is that hard to believe?

You don't learn to be a transgender bro. You just are.

Racism is 100% taught as learned.

It's not inherently human. It isn't something genetic.

It's a disease. Bruce Jenner has every right my guy.

[Destroyer]

Racism is not a mental disease
It’s ignorance realized

[Ghost1]

can we just have one thread called

Social Media

instead of a new one everytime someone farts on ur fb newsfeed

[Destroyer]

No, we are facebookcees now
Go read a book and stfu

;)

[Ghost1]

NO I HATE IT ZDLKNFW[EOIJF]2-239R 23J

[~RustyGunZ~]

People just need to stop calling things mental illnesses

Whether you're born a racist or learn to be racist you're a bad hombre

Not really all that important

[Inno]

Well tbh it's in context.

Are your stating this? Or asking a questions?

And if asking.

What are you really confessing? @uh oh

[Dope girl]

I see where you getting at
heart matter

[Diode]

got 2 more nazis fired from their jobs today

feels good man

[~RustyGunZ~]

got 2 more nazis fired from their jobs today

feels good man

Do tell

Actual Nazis or dumb semi racist people posting garbage on fb?

[Finnydot]

Most people are just stupid. Individuals can be smart, but people as a whole are dumb. Law of averages. For every nun who goes to Africa to save children and really make a difference providing medicine, there's a million southerners with pitch forks.

[uh-oh]

Well tbh it's in context.

Are your stating this? Or asking a questions?

And if asking.

What are you really confessing? @uh oh

that america has lost its gourd

i read articles about how racism is a mental illness that needs treatment, yet these same people will tell you that being transgender ISN'T a mental illness

i just think everyone is dumb tbh

[Witty]

Most people are just stupid. Individuals can be smart, but people as a whole are dumb. Law of averages. For every nun who goes to Africa to save children and really make a difference providing medicine, there's a million southerners with pitch forks.

Nuns go to Africa and order people, by threat of eternal fire, not to use contraception. Encouraging the spread of aids, killing millions. Not a great example Bro.

[Objective]

Racism is not a mental disease
It’s ignorance realized

I think that depends on context tbh. I've met racists that hates everything about immigration, my father and me due to something that have happened to them a couple of times. One I spoke to ended up in hospital for a few days after getting beaten, robbed etc. by some somali people.

This kinda shit can lead some people to anxiety attacks when presented with similar situations or when white people see a group of blacks for example. That coupled with fear can lead to hatred which is deep rooted in one incident that changed their view of the world completely.

It's funny though because dude cool with me until I egged him on about what he hated about immigration and so on, then when I dropped the bomb about my father being an immigrant himself and a part of the people he hated with a passion he resorted to just hating him/my family, not me for some reason because ''I was one of the nice ones''. Dude was smart too, in the sense that he knew politics, science and human brain and so on but when it came to that he turned to a complete retard and I believe it is rooted in mental illness from a couple incidents he has experienced leading to PTSD-like symptoms and not necessarily because he's a racist at heart, because he wasn't racist until after a little while after he had been in hospital and felt he needed protection.

[uh-oh]

the main point of the thread is, if being "racist" is a mental illness, than being trans is too lol. we can't just pick and choose make believe illnesses.

but really i was just annoyed because of how broad the spectrum of racist is nowadays.

basically if you don't devote your entire existence to uplifting minorities you are racist. you might not be actual nazi racist, but its like saying you are still depressed, you just ain't suicidal.

like oh you believe we're all equal? thats actually a racist statement because that discounts that minorities have it more difficult and blah blah. you can't win

all i know is if you plan to swing the pendulum, swing it hard enough to break it and pray to god you don't fall short.

[Diode]

Do tell

Actual Nazis or dumb semi racist people posting garbage on fb?

yeah actual nazis.

[Paytience]

why is that hard to believe?

You don't learn to be a transgender bro. You just are.

Racism is 100% taught as learned.

It's not inherently human. It isn't something genetic.

It's a disease. Bruce Jenner has every right my guy.

Except gender dysphoria is an actual mental illness and racism isn't...

[Paytience]

that america has lost its gourd

i read articles about how racism is a mental illness that needs treatment, yet these same people will tell you that being transgender ISN'T a mental illness

i just think everyone is dumb tbh

Those people are racists or howling bigots who hate transexuals. Classifying racism as mental illness makes them feel better about themselves, and saying transexuals are not experiencing a mental illness allows them to subtly continue their own discriminations.

[boof]

^nobody that is racist is classifying themselves as mentally ill what the fuck are you talking about
uh-oh can you respond to Innovator s first post?

[Paytience]

^nobody that is racist is classifying themselves as mentally ill what the fuck are you talking about
uh-oh can you respond to Innovator s first post?

That went over your head huh?

[boof]

maybe, your post is worded pretty poorly

[uh-oh]

^nobody that is racist is classifying themselves as mentally ill what the fuck are you talking about
uh-oh can you respond to Innovator s first post?


why is that hard to believe?

You don't learn to be a transgender bro. You just are.

Racism is 100% taught as learned.

It's not inherently human. It isn't something genetic.

It's a disease. Bruce Jenner has every right my guy.

i didn't address this because i don't care if you are trans, or racist. i just don't think a certain way of thinking that isn't harmful to yourself is a mental illness. we can all disagree with the pattern of thinking. but that doesn't make that pattern of thinking a mental illness

is it a mental illness to be a conspiracy theorist? is it a mental illness to hate a sports team? is it a mental illness to subscribe to certain political beliefs?

im just not with the thought police culture

if being transgender is natural, then it somehow surpasses a simple way of thinking. being racist at the end of the day is a decision. being trans isn't .

if you don't have control over the decision, and your chemistry makes it for you that should be a pretty big deciding factor

no one wants to be depressed. no one wants to catch the flu. people want to be racist.

[WRATH]

Been arguing this off and on for the last 28 hours. I'll come back to this.

[WRATH]

Oh this is something else.

[WRATH]

the main point of the thread is, if being "racist" is a mental illness, than being trans is too lol. we can't just pick and choose make believe illnesses.

but really i was just annoyed because of how broad the spectrum of racist is nowadays.

basically if you don't devote your entire existence to uplifting minorities you are racist. you might not be actual nazi racist, but its like saying you are still depressed, you just ain't suicidal.

like oh you believe we're all equal? thats actually a racist statement because that discounts that minorities have it more difficult and blah blah. you can't win

all i know is if you plan to swing the pendulum, swing it hard enough to break it and pray to god you don't fall short.

There is a lot of wrong in this post big dog. It sounds like you were arguing with someone pro trans or actually trans, which is weird that you entertained that perspective anyways.

But all humans are equal being a racist statement is so out of line i dont know where to start. Its the racism that actually 'seperates' us into these sub categories when in reality its the dumbest fucking thing to care about even a little bit.

But you have to be careful as a white man stating an opinion of neutrality on this cause it comes off as deflection. Like, you see there's a difference but cant be bothered with it. If you want to stand on the sidelines thats cool but to state you 'dont care' or 'its not my problem' is belittling a serious problem. Its as bad as saying 'get over it', like you weren't negatively impacted from jump so of course you can move on smoothly.

Its not 1965 anymore really we're probably closer then we've ever been to actually seeing past skin color, thats why these things like statues being taken down seem petty, but its not.

Lee was thee confederate hero why was he even allowed a statue. Its anti american and super fucking racist leave him in the damn history books.

[uh-oh]

you basically reiterated my point, if you aren't beating people over the head with how you are personally helping uplift minorities it can be racist. it wasn't an argument but an article shared by people. it was on medium, but a few people shared it on twitter and facebook so i took the bait and read it and left disgusted

i don't care about confederate statues. tear em down. put em in museums, burn em who gives a shit.

but if we're going off topic

i support EVERYONE'S right to free speech, even if i disagree completely with that speech.

i see people saying "nazi's aren't allowed to speak!" uhh yes they are. there are consequences to free speech, but you can say whatever you want. there are diodes in the world who will get you fired. thats a consequence of your free speech. losing your job, getting ostracized, etc. getting punched in the face like richard spencer, however while its funny, and i enjoy a white nationalist getting punched, thats assault.

but you can't defend a persons freedoms without being lumped in as defending their viewpoint. and that is gross.

i'll defend the black israelites who claim white people are cavemen dog fuckers, i'll defend a racists right to say racist shit, i'll defend a social justice warriors right to say whatever. where ever you fall in the spectrum of speech, i support your right to it. whether we agree or disagree.

the main problem i see is people are trying to STOP peoples right to free speech because they disagree with their message, which i wholeheartedly disagree with.

[WRATH]

Nah im not saying that they cant say what they want.

They walk the streets with assault rifles and physically oppressing people. The only group of people in america that do shit like this. Its homegrown terrorism and its bullshit.

My thing is that to openly be neutral on this, when you sort of dont have a choice what side you start on, will get negative reactions from the opposite side. I mean idc personally but if you see a white guy simply saying im not racist dont be mad at me and he still gets labeled a racist its because he chose to defend an angle, no matter how passive it might have been. Legit just explaining in case there was a question.

[Inno]

i didn't address this because i don't care if you are trans, or racist. i just don't think a certain way of thinking that isn't harmful to yourself is a mental illness. we can all disagree with the pattern of thinking. but that doesn't make that pattern of thinking a mental illness

is it a mental illness to be a conspiracy theorist? is it a mental illness to hate a sports team? is it a mental illness to subscribe to certain political beliefs?

im just not with the thought police culture

if being transgender is natural, then it somehow surpasses a simple way of thinking. being racist at the end of the day is a decision. being trans isn't .

if you don't have control over the decision, and your chemistry makes it for you that should be a pretty big deciding factor

no one wants to be depressed. no one wants to catch the flu. people want to be racist.

That part I'm lost with lol. But to the rest of your post.

So you agree racism is not a disease but a choice?

So can you compare being trans to racist? I don't get it?

If a person can't help but feel trans, how is that a disease?

Are u saying that because of that fact....it is in fact a disease?

Elab my nigga

[Amen]

can we just have one thread called

Social Media

instead of a new one everytime someone farts on ur fb newsfeed

Word lol.

[uh-oh]

That part I'm lost with lol. But to the rest of your post.

So you agree racism is not a disease but a choice?

So can you compare being trans to racist? I don't get it?

If a person can't help but feel trans, how is that a disease?

Are u saying that because of that fact....it is in fact a disease?

Elab my nigga

the part you bolded was me listing other ways of thinking, like people being racist. if being racist is a mental illness, whats next type of deal

as for trannyism. im not saying it is or isnt a mental disease, but the people who definitively say it ISN'T argue that racism IS. which was goofy to me. hence the thread

[WRATH]

I think its being gay gone wrong. Crossed wires if you will.

[Destroyer]

Bro, what you “think” could not mean fucking less
You have credentials? A doctorate? Study psychology of human sexuality?

Thought so

[~RustyGunZ~]

Bro, what you “think” could not mean fucking less
You have credentials? A doctorate? Study psychology of human sexuality?

Thought so

None of that applies to you either

Also any stance you have that's backed up by someone with credentials is also refuted by someone with credentials

Were a society that's allowed to have opinions and debate. The only facts in life are numbers and raw data.

Either contribute to a conversation with something interesting for once or keep your snide shit to yourself/your Facebook page only people that think exactly like you interact with

[uh-oh]

schein in here spouting hate facts

im triggered

[Destroyer]

I’m also not in here making statements about transgenders and how that they should be classified.
Since I’m not making blanket assertions, I don’t need to support what I am saying with credentials
So, go back on your fb page and keep talking about how monuments are our history, faggot

[~RustyGunZ~]

I’m also not in here making statements about transgenders and how that they should be classified.
Since I’m not making blanket assertions, I don’t need to support what I am saying with credentials
So, go back on your fb page and keep talking about how monuments are our history, faggot

Now you're making assumptions I'm on the opposite side of you becuase I called you out on being a fucking ass hat.

If you don't like what uh oh says debate him. Otherwise stfu.

[Destroyer]

Bro, I’m not karaoke
I’ll lose my job and not give a fuck

[~RustyGunZ~]

Bro, I’m not karaoke
I’ll lose my job and not give a fuck

I mean

You have a shitty job with a ged requirement so no shit?

What are you getting at though?

[Destroyer]

what do you have to gain by attacking me for pointing out ignorance?
I don’t have the wherewithal to discuss the subject, so I’m not
It doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to call out stupid shit like “I think blah blah blah” because no fucking reason.

[Destroyer]

My base pay is $67k before commission, so props on you if you are doing better financially
If the last few months are any inclination, I think it’s safe to say that personal income does not guarantee intelligence about any subject

[~RustyGunZ~]

He has his reasons

You just don't agree with them

So move on if you don't want to have a real conversation

You are aware you don't need to put your worthless snarky whip on every thread made right?

[Destroyer]

Are you?

[~RustyGunZ~]

My base pay is $67k before commission, so props on you if you are doing better financially
If the last few months are any inclination, I think it’s safe to say that personal income does not guarantee intelligence about any subject

Are you slow? Why are you arguing random points I am not slightly bringing up lmao

I never said your income makes you dumb I said its an easily replaceable job if you wanted to lose it for whatever reason you said you'd be willing to lose it

[Destroyer]

Knuck, you’ve been in my presence for at least 10 years now.
Do I strike you as slow?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Are you?

https://media.tenor.com/images/d42511cbbbdbc3a8302f30b79d7cbbbb/tenor.gif

[~RustyGunZ~]

Knuck, you’ve been in my presence for at least 10 years now.
Do I strike you as slow?

No I was being flamboyant

You do say stupid shit when your triggered though

You literally argue against things I'm against while attacking me for it 99% of the time

[Destroyer]

I just question our ability to solve the transgender conundrum on a forum where we regularly call each other faggots

[Destroyer]

You literally argue against things I'm against while attacking me for it 99% of the time

This I can’t argue with. But the blame lies with my mother.

[uh-oh]

props on the salary des

i thought i was ballinggggggg, on pace for around 43k this year

i don't know what to do with it.

in other news i watched a tranny porn and was extremely conflicted. there was a sexy normal woman, like an actual woman who was born with a vagina. getting plowed out by a "woman" with a penis. but it looked like a woman. not a great looking woman. but you get what im saying. not a dude named ted in a wig.

it was weird. it wasn't the vid i nutted to, but it was in the rotation that session

murica

[Destroyer]

Lmao
Never change, bro

[Eŋg]

intelligence is not correlative to moral integrity.

i earn less and am smarter than destro.

being trans is a choice. virtually everything is, to argue against that is to argue against an individual's accountability - doing that removes culpability. that's a disturbing rhetoric to pursue if you give it an ounce of thought. this ain't fucking milgram.

p.s. everyone's also mentally ill. discriminate evenly.

[Destroyer]

When did you choose to be straight, eng?

[uh-oh]

intelligence is not correlative to moral integrity.

i earn less and am smarter than destro.

being trans is a choice. virtually everything is, to argue against that is to argue against an individual's accountability - doing that removes culpability. that's a disturbing rhetoric to pursue if you give it an ounce of thought. this ain't fucking milgram.

p.s. everyone's also mentally ill. discriminate evenly.

OH YEA?

SAYS YOU.

[uh-oh]

When did you choose to be straight, eng?

just an fyi for when your in a SJW meeting, you shouldn't equate trans people with gay people, its frowned upon since its not a sexual preference. you could be labeled a nazi for it.

[Destroyer]

I didn’t equate anyone with anyone else
I asked him a simple question
He said everything is a choice, so I’d like to know when he chose his sexual preference

[Eŋg]

When did you choose to be straight, eng?

why are you bringing sexuality into a gender discussion?

you know uncle bob who touches the kids sometimes didn't choose to do that, either.

[Destroyer]

Ok, when did you choose your gender, then?

[uh-oh]

word i can't help but troll when i lose interest in a topic.

to answer the question you asked him

i chose to be straight when i was around 8. whenever cooties stopped being a thing and going to the skating rink became a thing

might even be closer to 10

i guess thats a lie though because one of my earliest memories is rubbing my knub to my dads porn mags and getting beat for it.

i had to be like 4 or 5

i sometimes wonder if i got molested and don't remember because i've always been a deviant and i literally used to beat off all the time before i could even nut. i remember legit trying to fuck my "girlfriend" in like 4th grade

one of my moms friends blew me or something. i wish i had the memory to wack it too.

[Destroyer]

So you were kicking around with being gay or straight before that?

[Destroyer]

Believing someone would choose to be a part of a minority is like believing a white guy would choose to be black if given the option.
People make choices to do what seems easiest. Inviting hatred upon you when you could simply “choose” the other option makes no sense at all.

[Witty]

intelligence is not correlative to moral integrity.

i earn less and am smarter than destro.

being trans is a choice. virtually everything is, to argue against that is to argue against an individual's accountability - doing that removes culpability. that's a disturbing rhetoric to pursue if you give it an ounce of thought. this ain't fucking milgram.

p.s. everyone's also mentally ill. discriminate evenly.

The choice is acting upon the feeling. The feeling is not. Surely.

For example, if I feel I am a woman trapped in a man's body, I didn't choose to feel that way, the choice is whether to get an operation to make me that gender physically. Whether or not it's mental illness is another matter, I think nature sometimes just throws curve balls.

[Eŋg]

bro, white folks try and be black all the time.

male, female, intersex. three biological genders - not a matter of choice. if you want to identify as a woman, ok, but don't compel me to entertain your self-image.

inviting hatred upon yourself makes perfect masochistic sense. how many of us already self-loathe? either that or it's just fashionable.

[Destroyer]

White folks try to act black
If given a legitimate choice to become black, I think we’d see quite a bit of backpedaling

[uh-oh]

Believing someone would choose to be a part of a minority is like believing a white guy would choose to be black if given the option.
People make choices to do what seems easiest. Inviting hatred upon you when you could simply “choose” the other option makes no sense at all.

while i agree

we live in a society of victims. being the victim gets you rewarded and you get social points.

its the same reason dummies like baked alaska maces himself in the face and says antifa threw acid on him.

he wants to be a victim to garner sympathy and strengthen his cause.

im not saying everyone does it, im sure its a super minority. but it happens.

[Eŋg]

The choice is acting upon the feeling. The feeling is not. Surely.

For example, if I feel I am a woman trapped in a man's body, I didn't choose to feel that way, the choice is whether to get an operation to make me that gender physically. Whether or not it's mental illness is another matter, I think nature sometimes just throws curve balls.

the last trans person i sat down and spoke to was raped and molested between ages 7 to 11 by their elder brother. is on HRT but hates their own face in the mirror to the point of self-harm because they aren't ostensibly female. wants to be a 'sissy fuckhole'. doesn't see these things as causal. thinks the rape just sort of happened and is unrelated to the gender dysmorphia.

is unfamiliar with cognitive dissonance.

destro, you don't think people just want to belong?

[Destroyer]

Anecdotes aren’t data

[Eŋg]

u rite.

i'm just gonna throw my dick everywhere while i identify as an otherkin because none of this is a choice for me. i'm just a passenger to the inexorable will of the cosmos.

[Witty]

the last trans person i sat down and spoke to was raped and molested between ages 7 to 11 by their elder brother. is on HRT but hates their own face in the mirror to the point of self-harm because they aren't ostensibly female. wants to be a 'sissy fuckhole'. doesn't see these things as causal. thinks the rape just sort of happened and is unrelated to the gender dysmorphia.

is unfamiliar with cognitive dissonance.

Ok, and this may be the case for many trans people, I personally think this may also be a reason people become gay. I'm not saying it's from birth in all cases, I honestly don't know...but how these people feel leaves them with no choice, in their own minds, whether it's due to abuse, whether it's from birth, whatever...they ARE female, or male in their minds, through no conscious choice.

Also, your point here was conjecture, it may have something to do with it, but it also may not. It's speculation.

I'm not saying I particularly disagree with you though, I just think there's going to be more than one reason people do things like this....abuse, attention, a curve ball of nature which would mean SOME people genuinely ARE the wrong gender...there is never going to be one reason or one answer to this question.

I don't even understand why people care about this shit. Fuck do I care if a dude wanna be a female? I don't, not one bit.

[Eŋg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLYbzYZ4t50

don't assume my gender, age, or race bruh.

Witty, i have no problem with a man wanting to be a woman, or a woman a man, if they so wish. intersex occurs in nature. i'm not with the gender fluid shit though, nor compelled pronouns, or the rhetoric positing there is no choice involved in the matter, because that's dangerous for reasons i don't need to outline.

[WRATH]

I mean a nigga cant think Destroyer how tf should i know why a mf wants to switch genders

[Destroyer]

You shouldn’t know why
And you have to be comfortable with that

[Diode]

Anecdotes aren’t data

once more WITH FEELING

[boof]

uh-oh people argue that being trans isnt a mental illness because its a physical feeling from birth. like homosexuality. people argue that racism is a mental illness because it's a mental perspective learned from others. that is why it's not both or neither. they're on different planes in most people's mind including mine.

[uh-oh]

you don't have to be comfortable with anything

[Destroyer]

I can see why you’d think that, after seeing your spot

[WRATH]

Believing someone would choose to be a part of a minority is like believing a white guy would choose to be black if given the option.
People make choices to do what seems easiest. Inviting hatred upon you when you could simply “choose” the other option makes no sense at all.

You are a fool if you dont think people choose to stand out for whatever reason. Especially in todays everyones a youtube star days. Hatred means nothing all publicity is good publicity depending on how you rock 'your thing'.

[uh-oh]

uh-oh people argue that being trans isnt a mental illness because its a physical feeling from birth. like homosexuality. people argue that racism is a mental illness because it's a mental perspective learned from others. that is why it's not both or neither. they're on different planes in most people's mind including mine.

yea i just think thats a goofy idea. hence the thread. is every learned mental perspective an illness?

[WRATH]

Be whatever you want i guess seen a bitch turn into a snake thing so its like whatever idc. But that shit is a choice, and if not then why is my crossed wires line off?

[boof]

while i agree

we live in a society of victims. being the victim gets you rewarded and you get social points.

its the same reason dummies like baked alaska maces himself in the face and says antifa threw acid on him.

he wants to be a victim to garner sympathy and strengthen his cause.

im not saying everyone does it, im sure its a super minority. but it happens.

if you agree, and concede it's only a super minority, then you agree in a high majority of instances it's not a choice. correct?

[Eŋg]

uh-oh people argue that being trans isnt a mental illness because its a physical feeling from birth. like homosexuality. people argue that racism is a mental illness because it's a mental perspective learned from others. that is why it's not both or neither. they're on different planes in most people's mind including mine.

bruh

you don't remember a fucking thing from birth.

neither do i.

Anecdotes aren’t data

reply to the thing that wasn't a response to you. 10/10 selective hearing at your age.

[PancakeBrah]

Alright guys turn the tv's off, turn the phone off, if you're accessing this topic through your phone switch to a computer (desktop preferred), get some water and ritz crackers, turn the lights off, and turn up some Godspeed! You Black Emperor because

We're getting to the bottom of this.




Tonight.

[boof]

yea i just think thats a goofy idea. hence the thread. is every learned mental perspective an illness?

semantics playa. if the mental perspective goes as far as to confirm with yourself that you are superior than other beings on this planet simply because of arbitrary things like skin color, we as a society consider it an illness.

haven't you ever heard any former racists or ex-clansmen talk about why they used to be the way they were?

[boof]

bruh

you don't remember a fucking thing from birth.

neither do i.

but my point is that trans people in all instances that i've heard talk about their realization refer to a time when they knew they were the gender opposite of what they were told to be as young children, soon after the age of when our first memories begin

unless you're claiming they can learn to feel like the opposite gender for the rest of their lives at an age prior to having memories

[Eŋg]

i wouldn't feel right getting into infant psychology without veritas here.

[Destroyer]

Or TYSON

[uh-oh]

if you agree, and concede it's only a super minority, then you agree in a high majority of instances it's not a choice. correct?

absolutely.

semantics playa. if the mental perspective goes as far as to confirm with yourself that you are superior than other beings on this planet simply because of arbitrary things like skin color, we as a society consider it an illness.

haven't you ever heard any former racists or ex-clansmen talk about why they used to be the way they were?

the problem i have with that statement is "we as a society", who is the we in that? i didn't hear this racism is a mental illness talk until literally the other day. when did "we" decide this?

as for the question, no i havent heard former racists or ex-clansmen talk about why they were racist. were they prescribed some medicine by big pharma that cured them? or did they just change their mind one day after an epiphany? maybe one day i'll get an epiphany and my "depression" will go away.

[PancakeBrah]

Lol yo, dawgs, what if a trans was racist

[Destroyer]

What if someone was only racist when it came to black trannies?

[uh-oh]

Lol yo, dawgs, what if a trans was racist

HOW DARE YOU assign a mental illness to a human who doesn't accept the gender they were scientifically born with

[PancakeBrah]

Still reeling from Wasim spoiling GoT just posting off desperation

[boof]

if you agree it's not a choice do you also believe racism isn't a choice? if not, do you see why the two don't have to go hand in hand in diagnosing mental illness?


the problem i have with that statement is "we as a society", who is the we in that? i didn't hear this racism is a mental illness talk until literally the other day. when did "we" decide this?

as for the question, no i havent heard former racists or ex-clansmen talk about why they were racist. were they prescribed some medicine by big pharma that cured them? or did they just change their mind one day after an epiphany? maybe one day i'll get an epiphany and my "depression" will go away.

i understand your problem with that, i guess i can only claim reference to americans who disagree with racism but don't let our disagreement of racism interfere with our diagnosis of where it is coming from. if you exclude racists and centrists, the only reactions to racists seem to be punch them in the face and/or extinguish them from our society, or sit down and educate/introduce them to members of other races to dissipate what they've previously been conditioned to feel.

as far as your last two questions, the answer is neither. they came to realize that their prejudice was rooted in self-loathing, insecurity, lack of experience, and fear projected as hate and anger. i believe some of those symptoms are the common denominator in all forms of prejudice as in gender or class.

[uh-oh]

Still reeling from Wasim spoiling GoT just posting off desperation

lmao word man. i tried to put the point across a couple times to wait till sunday to discuss it. he did it with the first leak too (episode 4) commenting that "the battle was dope!!" or whatever in reference to the dragon/lannister battle.

i feel blame for letting everyone know it leaked. i just would want to know if an episode leaked and tried to do right by my fellow ncg's.

at this point you might as well watch it lol.

[Witty]

I'm eating wine gums and they say 'made with natural colours' but there's black ones lol wot.

[Destroyer]

I mean, it’s your choice uh-oh

[uh-oh]

if you agree it's not a choice do you also believe racism isn't a choice? if not, do you see why the two don't have to go hand in hand in diagnosing mental illness?
i never said they did. i was just pointing out something i saw as ridiculous. if either were a mental illness, it would obviously be being transgender. i would be more apt to agree that racism is a mental illness, if being transgender is was. but thats just my opinion at the end of the day. its far more loony to me to want to cut off your dick and grow tits

i understand your problem with that, i guess i can only claim reference to americans who disagree with racism but don't let our disagreement of racism interfere with our diagnosis of where it is coming from. if you exclude racists and centrists, the only reactions to racists seem to be punch them in the face and/or extinguish them from our society, or sit down and educate/introduce them to members of other races to dissipate what they've previously been conditioned to feel.

as far as your last two questions, the answer is neither. they came to realize that their prejudice was rooted in self-loathing, insecurity, lack of experience, and fear projected as hate and anger. which i believe is the common denominator in all forms of prejudice as in gender or class.

the main reaction to racists is to ignore them. their were 500 people at the unite the right rally for example. 500. they drove in from all over the country, that country with a population of what 350,000,000. 500. meeting them with violence gets that violence returned. you're not going to be able to reason with idiots.

just ignore them, they're buffoons. if they become violent, we have a justice system in place to deal with them, or anyone else who breaks the law.

i just don't see the giant problem everyone else does. but in saying that, i'm racist for not acknowledging the brewing storm of nazi-ism set to overtake america

[Destroyer]

Just so you know, I agree with 100% of what you just wrote under that second boof quote

[boof]

i never said they did. i was just pointing out something i saw as ridiculous. if either were a mental illness, it would obviously be being transgender. i would be more apt to agree that racism is a mental illness, if being transgender is was. but thats just my opinion at the end of the day. its far more loony to me to want to cut off your dick and grow tits

i feel like you're ignoring the point i already made. if we agree transgender is an involuntary physical feeling then how is it obviously a mental illness? and if racism is learned and can be un-learned how is it not the one more appropriately labeled a sickness of the mind?



the main reaction to racists is to ignore them. their were 500 people at the unite the right rally for example. 500. they drove in from all over the country, that country with a population of what 350,000,000. 500. meeting them with violence gets that violence returned. you're not going to be able to reason with idiots.

just ignore them, they're buffoons. if they become violent, we have a justice system in place to deal with them, or anyone else who breaks the law.

i just don't see the giant problem everyone else does. but in saying that, i'm racist for not acknowledging the brewing storm of nazi-ism set to overtake america

no, you're not racist, you're just uninformed. i don't know where in god's green earth you got the number 500 from but it's about 400x less than the number i read and i'm fairly certain it's at least 12x less than the lowest number i saw from any source. there's been a huge increase in public appearances by neo-nazi's and white nationalists, speaking conferences, rallies, media appearances, etc. and it's not because of counter protests, but because of trump's campaign and election. if you don't know about the rise in hate crimes since the end of last year, specifically against jews and muslims then you should catch up before forming your opinion. suggesting we have a justice system that will take care of nazi's and racists is another uninformed statement. our justice system employs plenty of racists. alternatively who in their right fucking mind trusts the justice system to deal with anything appropriately? there's 9 people with active warrants for taking down the confederate statue in north carolina and there are zero people with active warrants for the hate crime of collectively jumping and beating a 20 year old black man with clubs at the unite the right rally the day before.

[uh-oh]

i feel like you're ignoring the point i already made. if we agree transgender is an involuntary physical feeling then how is it obviously a mental illness? and if racism is learned and can be un-learned how is it not the one more appropriately labeled a sickness of the mind?





no, you're not racist, you're just uninformed. i don't know where in god's green earth you got the number 500 from but it's about 400x less than the number i read and i'm fairly certain it's at least 12x less than the lowest number i saw from any source. there's been a huge increase in public appearances by neo-nazi's and white nationalists, speaking conferences, rallies, media appearances, etc. and it's not because of counter protests, but because of trump's campaign and election. if you don't know about the rise in hate crimes since the end of last year, specifically against jews and muslims then you should catch up before forming your opinion. suggesting we have a justice system that will take care of nazi's and racists is another uninformed statement. our justice system employs plenty of racists. alternatively who in their right fucking mind trusts the justice system to deal with anything appropriately? there's 9 people with active warrants for taking down the confederate statue in north carolina and there are zero people with active warrants for the hate crime of collectively jumping and beating a 20 year old black man with clubs at the unite the right rally the day before.
i read the number 500 from some conservative or libertarian comedian i follow on twitter. i just spewed it out. if the number is much less thats a good thing lol.

the problem with saying there is a huge increase in public appearances by neo nazi's and white nationalists is alot of people who aren't those things get labeled it. those same miniscule number tend to try to attend normal conservative pro trump events, which gets the whole event labeled as nazis by shit like the antifa. why, because richard spencer showed up?

and its shitty they don't have any warrants out on the people who beat that dude, i saw the clips and all that, and everyone sharing the faces of the alleged dudes and etc. but we can go back and forth on each little skirmish from every one of these events and nit pick to build a narrative that suits our agenda.

its all fucked man

[Inno]

We should of never segregated.

Archie was right

[boof]

i read the number 500 from some conservative or libertarian comedian i follow on twitter. i just spewed it out. if the number is much less thats a good thing lol.

the problem with saying there is a huge increase in public appearances by neo nazi's and white nationalists is alot of people who aren't those things get labeled it. those same miniscule number tend to try to attend normal conservative pro trump events, which gets the whole event labeled as nazis by shit like the antifa. why, because richard spencer showed up?

and its shitty they don't have any warrants out on the people who beat that dude, i saw the clips and all that, and everyone sharing the faces of the alleged dudes and etc. but we can go back and forth on each little skirmish from every one of these events and nit pick to build a narrative that suits our agenda.

its all fucked man

no brother

i said your number is that many times less than the real number. if you saw any of the clips you'd know that 500 sounds ridiculous. every number i saw was between 6k and 20k. just so you know, in america right now, 20k is an outrageous number for any rally that isn't the women's march or the cavs championship parade.

the people i'm referring to are not being mislabeled. i know you aren't following closely so i also know you're giving people the benefit of the doubt because you're assuming there can't possibly be that many nazi's and nationalists. if you can find me one example of a prominent figure in the right movement that is being mislabeled i will concede this point

i agree that we shouldn't lump everyone at rallies into one group but follow me here playa because you have a misinformed view of what the rally looked like


people attended the rally either to protest the taking down of a statue depicting the leader of the confederacy that brought up arms to fight the rest of the USA, or to "unite the right"

white supremacists showed up
white nationalists showed up
neo-nazi's showed up
a private militia with more weapons than the police showed up

now lets pretend there are people that showed up as nothing more than conservatives genuinely interested in progressing the republican party (everyone knew who was showing up btw) and once they got there, all the aforementioned groups are chanting "blood and soil" and "one race, one nation, end immigration" and "jews won't replace us" and "david duke" and you STICK AROUND or CONTINUE TO MARCH or ALSO CHANT you are clearly allowed to be labeled under the same umbrella. to anyone that left when that happened, i rescind all my prior statements. i challenge you to find one video of that happening. and furthermore, i challenge you to find one video of the people attending not engaging in the rhetoric of those hate groups.

the justice system didn't do a fucking thing about an armed militia at the bundy ranch, they don't do anything about police involved homocides, and they don't do much about racism or hate crimes committed by whites. so don't pretend.

they've been emboldened, and they've decided to show off and further their agenda's. and there are too many of them. that's not disputable at this point.

[boof]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg

[boof]

"we're starting to slowly unveil a little bit of our power level"

and just so you get an idea of who these new cats are outside of those aged over 40 who are obviously not new and just seasoned racist veterans with a new voice, the bulk of them are (not joking) white gamers who were previously unrooted in politics and i don't know if you know anything about steve bannon but his former company made millions of dollars off of whatever the fuck gold farming is but i know he incentivized WoW nerds and whatever other games people played a decade ago to steal shit and sell it back to the gamers and once he realized how easy they were to control he rolled it over into breitbart in the last few years and let memes and anti-white rhetoric recruit millions of little basement trolls on 4chan and /b/ and reddit into the new alt-right (even though he himself think's they're "clowns/losers/goobers") and once trump got going they organized and showed up more effectively than any other current political group. they have a lot of momentum. and its increasing. this is why it's a big deal. just fyi

[boof]

also this bullshit

i've watched too many blm protests with 3' neutral zone's and police assault the fuck out of hundreds of protesters anyways

natives protest = national guard water cannons dog attacks
blacks protest = militarized pd automatic rounds of rubber bullets assault
whites protest = cops do this bullshit


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYFCaQ6SdAQ

[PancakeBrah]

Boof is so fucking stupid.

[WRATH]

now lets pretend there are people that showed up as nothing more than conservatives genuinely interested in progressing the republican party (everyone knew who was showing up btw) and once they got there, all the aforementioned groups are chanting "blood and soil" and "one race, one nation, end immigration" and "jews won't replace us" and "david duke" and you STICK AROUND or CONTINUE TO MARCH or ALSO CHANT you are clearly allowed to be labeled under the same umbrella. to anyone that left when that happened, i rescind all my prior statements. i challenge you to find one video of that happening. and furthermore, i challenge you to find one video of the people attending not engaging in the rhetoric of those hate groups.

Without question

[uh-oh]

booth i watched the vice video when it came out, where are you finding this 6k-20k figure? ive been trying to find out how many attended since it started and i've only seen the 500 number. the night before with tiki torches was only 100 people, your telling me 20k showed up the next day?

also are you seriously asking who is being mislabled as a nazi? i'm the one whose misinformed? lol. where do i start. milo, gavin mcinnes, anne coulter, jordan peterson, bret weinstein

literally anyone who disagrees with anything the left perpetuates, whether they are on the right, or they are actual progressives who just disagree with the faggotry

but basically the disconnect here is you are very very left, and im a right leaning libertariatard. you are going to take anything that fits your narrative as gospel, and im going to pretend to be centrist while espousing alot of the rights viewpoints

so yo

let me ask you this.

do you agree that the nazis/white supremacists/white nationalists/kektards have the right as american citizens to receive permits to lawfully assemble and exercise their first amendment right?

because i do. you don't have to agree with their message, but they are allowed to say it. thats america.

just like the counterprotests, are allowed to protest it.

the problem is you have to do it peacefully.

can you say with a clean conscious that antifa/blm/and the left in general have protested peacefully in any of these instances? can you say that they respect the first amendment? cmonson

[Paytience]

intelligence is not correlative to moral integrity.

i earn less and am smarter than destro.

being trans is a choice. virtually everything is, to argue against that is to argue against an individual's accountability - doing that removes culpability. that's a disturbing rhetoric to pursue if you give it an ounce of thought. this ain't fucking milgram.
Not it's not...not an open choice. It is a lifestyle influenced almost entirely by mental illness. Point blank fucking period. The fact people on this site are arguing something that scientist have already established is bloody ridiculous.

Google motherfuckers.

[Paytience]

booth i watched the vice video when it came out, where are you finding this 6k-20k figure? ive been trying to find out how many attended since it started and i've only seen the 500 number. the night before with tiki torches was only 100 people, your telling me 20k showed up the next day?

also are you seriously asking who is being mislabled as a nazi? i'm the one whose misinformed? lol. where do i start. milo, gavin mcinnes, anne coulter, jordan peterson, bret weinstein

literally anyone who disagrees with anything the left perpetuates, whether they are on the right, or they are actual progressives who just disagree with the faggotry

but basically the disconnect here is you are very very left, and im a right leaning libertariatard. you are going to take anything that fits your narrative as gospel, and im going to pretend to be centrist while espousing alot of the rights viewpoints

so yo

let me ask you this.

do you agree that the nazis/white supremacists/white nationalists/kektards have the right as american citizens to receive permits to lawfully assemble and exercise their first amendment right?

because i do. you don't have to agree with their message, but they are allowed to say it. thats america.

just like the counterprotests, are allowed to protest it.

the problem is you have to do it peacefully.

can you say with a clean conscious that antifa/blm/and the left in general have protested peacefully in any of these instances? can you say that they respect the first amendment? cmonson

No, the bloded isn't true Uh-Oh. When Free Speech is used to push a narrative of bigotry and to incite violence it no longer becomes free speech, pure and simple. It becomes hate speech,
You are granted the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness so long as it does not interfere with others just right to the same. You right to "free speech" extends only as far as my own right to life and liberty.

When your speech and demonstrations violate that, you LOSE the right to them.

[uh-oh]

you are emphatically incorrect sir

[uh-oh]

Just to elaborate and save you time googling "is hate speech protected by the first amendment"

It is only illegal when directed personally at a person or persons basically.

Which is why a judge can rule and allow them a permit. You are allowed to express any opinion you want in america

Now if a nazi was yelling directly at you, and threatening you personally, that is illegal.

Antifa doesnt understand this.

You dont have to agree with a law for it to be lawful.

[Diode]

Just to elaborate and save you time googling "is hate speech protected by the first amendment"

It is only illegal when directed personally at a person or persons basically.

Which is why a judge can rule and allow them a permit. You are allowed to express any opinion you want in america

Now if a nazi was yelling directly at you, and threatening you personally, that is illegal.

Antifa doesnt understand this.

You dont have to agree with a law for it to be lawful.

Incitement is a thing with plenty of case law precedent Counselor Google, JD.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Did you go to law school diode?

[Diode]

Did you go to law school diode?

No, IANAL.

Had to take a bunch of pre-law to satisfy credit requirements of double major (history and political science). Given the two, I have a lot of background on this subject, but feel free to disqualify me as one of those evil librul coastal elites if you want.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Oh don't worry I'd never consider you a liberal elite lol

[Paytience]

Just to elaborate and save you time googling "is hate speech protected by the first amendment"

It is only illegal when directed personally at a person or persons basically.

Which is why a judge can rule and allow them a permit. You are allowed to express any opinion you want in america

Now if a nazi was yelling directly at you, and threatening you personally, that is illegal.

Antifa doesnt understand this.

You dont have to agree with a law for it to be lawful.

You understand how wrong you are on this right?

[uh-oh]

No.

Simply look into it.

If anyone is reading this series of posts, just fucking look into it.

I cant express how explicitly wrong pay and diode are.

I can link to government rulings and all that when i get off work. From nazis marching with swastikas through jewish villages to racist band names being upheld etc.

All of it is explicitly protected by the first amendment, and defended time and time again in court.

[uh-oh]

But dont take my word for it. Take diodes, i mean sure hes a burgeoning jiu jitsu expert and constitutional law professional and all. Im just a dirtbag with google

[Paytience]

But dont take my word for it. Take diodes, i mean sure hes a burgeoning jiu jitsu expert and constitutional law professional and all. Im just a dirtbag with google

It's called incitement to lawlessness and incitement to riot Uh-Oh. Should we show the video of a woman being murdered again, so you understand crimes were committed...that a murder was committed? In all honesty, the fact that cops were not out in tanks and head to toe assault gear whereas unarmed blacks and natives get burned down no question. Get tased, gassed and beaten. No question.

That should tell you all need to know about racism in this country Uh-Oh.
You are arguing that groups which identify themselves as "neonazi" and "white nationalist" are NOT Nazi's or white nationalists. Should tell you everything you need to know about yourself on the issue. GTFOutta here bro.

[Paytience]

...

[uh-oh]

It's called incitement to lawlessness and incitement to riot Uh-Oh. Should we show the video of a woman being murdered again, so you understand crimes were committed...that a murder was committed? In all honesty, the fact that cops were not out in tanks and head to toe assault gear whereas unarmed blacks and natives get burned down no question. Get tased, gassed and beaten. No question.

That should tell you all need to know about racism in this country Uh-Oh.
You are arguing that groups which identify themselves as "neonazi" and "white nationalist" are NOT Nazi's or white nationalists. Should tell you everything you need to know about yourself on the issue. GTFOutta here bro.

You are being blinded by emotion like a woman. Never once did i say they werent nazis. I am defneding those nazis right to free speecb.

I will defend anyones right to free speech like ive already stated. Its not because i agree with their message. The first amendment isnt in place to protect speech everyone agrees with.

[Eŋg]

no one took the bail on that trans-age thing?

sorry i'm late.

[WRATH]

Black people protest wrong. White guy drives through 20 people on some terrorist shit but its not terrorism. White people marching with AR's through town on some race purity shit is not terrorism. It's not a 'different opinion' its physical oppression of race.

[Paytience]

You are being blinded by emotion like a woman. Never once did i say they werent nazis. I am defneding those nazis right to free speecb.

I will defend anyones right to free speech like ive already stated. Its not because i agree with their message. The first amendment isnt in place to protect speech everyone agrees with.
Yeah, well as someone who actually raised their right hand to do just that...you're doing it wrong.

[Paytience]

Black people protest wrong. White guy drives through 20 people on some terrorist shit but its not terrorism. White people marching with AR's through town on some race purity shit is not terrorism. It's not a 'different opinion' its physical oppression of race.

^^^This Uh-Oh.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Yeah, well as someone who actually raised their right hand to do just that...you're doing it wrong.

What'd you do in the military?

[Warthog Lite]

Bags is racist against real life, fat fuck will never understand it.

[Witty]

lol good one!

[boof]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg

uh-oh can we just clear something up real quick

at 00:54 there are literally at least 500 people right there, closer to 1000. how can you possibly think that's 100 people? lol.

[uh-oh]

lmao word, i think a problem, is where i'm seeing numbers posted

id like a link to how many were actually there though just for clarification, because i can't find actual numbers anywhere

but yo pay, it was supposed to be a "peaceful assembly", you can open carry there, that isn't illegal. it could be argued they were incited to violence when antifa began throwing eggs, and water bottles filled with concrete. im not excusing anyone of murder. but the same way you talk about past protests, you don't seem to understand why they would have to show up with shields and clubs in the first place.

the far lefts playbook to remove peoples right to free speech is to show up, make an event violent, then the police and local officials have to shut it down. its happened time and time again. the counter protesters don't just show up and peacefully protest.

this is all an escalation, it just happened with actual nazis this time, who are more apt to returning that violence then normal fat faced maga trucker hat types.

[boof]

uh-oh make your best educated guess on what you believe the demographics of the event attendees were

excluding the protesters and private militia

nonracist conservatives -
white nationalists -
white supremacists -
neo nazi's -

[boof]

but the same way you talk about past protests, you don't seem to understand why they would have to show up with shields and clubs in the first place.

the far lefts playbook to remove peoples right to free speech is to show up, make an event violent, then the police and local officials have to shut it down. its happened time and time again. the counter protesters don't just show up and peacefully protest.

this is all an escalation, it just happened with actual nazis this time, who are more apt to returning that violence then normal fat faced maga trucker hat types.

and about this, who is "they" that had to show up with shields and clubs? and what is the reason?

and elaborate on your idea of the far left wanting to remove anyones right to free speech? (besides people with hateful ideologies) because that's not what the far left is trying to do. the far left protests issue's all the time and they are always peaceful. they only haven't been peaceful in the last 6 months, due to their realization of the rise of racists.

[uh-oh]

and about this, who is "they" that had to show up with shields and clubs? and what is the reason?

and elaborate on your idea of the far left wanting to remove anyones right to free speech? (besides people with hateful ideologies) because that's not what the far left is trying to do. the far left protests issue's all the time and they are always peaceful. they only haven't been peaceful in the last 6 months, due to their realization of the rise of racists.

"they" that had to show up with shields and clubs in this instance, were the neo nazis/white supremacists/and confederates. the reason they have to is because of the antifa's trend of turning to violence to shut down those they disagree with.

to elaborate on the far left wanting to remove peoples rights to free speech look at the boston free speech rally yesterday lol. the boston PD actually tweeted "please don't throw bottles of urine on our officers? kthx"

https://twitter.com/bostonpolice/status/898991076157136898

followed by rocks

https://twitter.com/bostonpolice/status/898995186155626496

heres a list of those arrested

http://bpdnews.com/news/2017/8/19/nwez3w61jv5rm1ub2siyofkbizrvki

reads like a bunch of nazis (sarcasm).

even the left is finally starting to distance themselves from the antifa. it will be interesting to see if they are successful. no matter how much normal right leaning politics condemns and disavows white supremacists and nationalist organizations they still get lumped in. pro trump rallies are continually viewed as "hateful" and all that horseshit

but word here is a CNN article on antifa today.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html

in the video they literally tell you their tactic is to bring violence to shut down others rights to free speech lmao. on cnn. this isn't right wing propaganda. when they come ready and willing to throw rocks, urine and feces, to engage with clubs mace and pepper spray, the far right will be ready to meet them in kind and want to. so they will show up with shields and clubs to fight back

you can't look at me with a straight face and tell me the far left is peaceful. thats nonsense. you can say the left in general can be peaceful, but the far left themselves don't consider themselves peaceful

like i've said before, i'm for everyones right to free speech, whether they have a hateful ideology or not. you throw that in like its an excuse for violence, which its not. there is no law against thinking anything. there are laws against assault.

[WRATH]

Ya'll so good at tracking down muslim terrorist but cant find an issue with nazis ready to go to war on american soil against fellow americans.

True.

[uh-oh]

i found some hilarious twitter exchanges yesterday too

some broad tweeted jake tapper like "do you disavow antifa and their use of violence like you do nazis and white nationalists?" as it was going down, to which he responded "of course, i have repeatedly. learn to google" so she was like "oh word, like donald trump disavowed both sides then..." lmao bodied

[uh-oh]

bald white guy with opposing views? must be a nazi. punch him.

https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/898992622420807680

oh more death to cops rhetoric? sure why not

https://twitter.com/therealcornett/status/898966575373484032

"all my heroes kill cops"

https://twitter.com/PeckPolitics/status/899001746416119808

cnn changing headlines, to the article i linked earlier lmao

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/899104472961622017

good old calls to violence

https://twitter.com/UniteTheRightX/status/898180478364250113

it goes on and on and on.

its been happening since before trump was elected, and definitely ramped up after he was elected. the media has no one to blame but themselves, they are the ones pushing that trump supports white supremacists, how many times should he disavow them? oh he pointed out that the more violent and dangerous side is bad too, so that somehow negates that he said nazis are terrible and there is no place for them? how dare he speak sense. quick cnn, msnbc, every form of media lets blow this out of proportion and continue to throw fuel onto the fire we created from nothing!

[WRATH]

Cnn has definitely been instigating things i caught that real quick. Regardless there is a problem with promoting racial purity through intimidation and violence. You could say the blm is causing violence too, in just as skewed scenarios as the white supremacist, but the overall goal is equality, not superiority.

Violence may not be the answer but to claim superiority over other humans should be outlawed, when it comes to actually rallying together to promote hate, especially in a public setting.

[boof]

bro antifa is not an organization. it's just the political stance of being anti-fascism. if you are anti-fascism, you are antifa. the people in all black fucking shit up are black bloc protesters, they are more often than not paid provocateurs. nobody on the left is anti-free speech, they are only anti-hate speech/racism. if somebody is spreading a message of exterminating people based on race, do you stand around and respect their right to free speech or do you stop them. it's pretty simple.

[boof]

we need to leave the media out of conversations like this. they are profit machines based on ratings and they are puppets given stories to divide and conquer. we all know this. lets just stick to what's happening on the ground.

they did not show up to charlottesville with AR'S and private militia's because they were afraid of fucking eggs and water bottles.

[boof]

blacks and natives show up to protests UNARMED knowing the opposition will be heavily armed, and still get attacked for actually protesting peacefully. showing up armed to the core is not peaceful regardless of what you think the other side might show up with.

[uh-oh]

well this site is dead as shit so i guess we can keep this going lol.

bro antifa is not an organization. it's just the political stance of being anti-fascism. if you are anti-fascism, you are antifa. the people in all black fucking shit up are black bloc protesters, they are more often than not paid provocateurs. nobody on the left is anti-free speech, they are only anti-hate speech/racism. if somebody is spreading a message of exterminating people based on race, do you stand around and respect their right to free speech or do you stop them. it's pretty simple.
you respect their RIGHT to free speech. because thats all it is, speech. the moment it becomes more than that, it isn't their "right" anymore. you can't pick and choose what speech you are free to use as an american. its all protected.
we need to leave the media out of conversations like this. they are profit machines based on ratings and they are puppets given stories to divide and conquer. we all know this. lets just stick to what's happening on the ground.

they did not show up to charlottesville with AR'S and private militia's because they were afraid of fucking eggs and water bottles.
they showed up with AR's because its their 2nd amendment right to bear arms. are you against when the left open carries? because they've open carried AR's at their PEACEFUL protests. i'm 100 percent fine with it. i'm not for limiting ANYONES rights. the left want to pick and choose who has their rights. its a slippery slope bro.

blacks and natives show up to protests UNARMED knowing the opposition will be heavily armed, and still get attacked for actually protesting peacefully. showing up armed to the core is not peaceful regardless of what you think the other side might show up with.
again, the left has shown up armed to their peaceful protests plenty of times. whether with rifles or their shields and sticks. anyone who is lawfully protesting doesn't deserve to be met with violence.

but like i've already stated we can nitpick each protest, skirmish, rally to support our views.

the main difference we have is you believe its ok to "stop" peoples right to free speech because you disagree with their message. i disagree with their message as well, but they have a right to espouse it. when you try to limit peoples rights you are only helping their cause by making them out to be the victim