someone convince me

[uh-oh]

that black thought doesn't have the best pen in the history of hip hop.

good luck.

[Fart]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLdAIyC6hYc

[Blue Bayou]

fair point

especially when u factor in longevity

[uh-oh]

word, i hate when i make threads like this. my logic was basically, i heard the same funk flex free again because it came up on youtube again. i thoroughly enjoyed it again and was like yea he's the goat of just lyricism and fire bars. i wonder if anyone is close. and i rack my brain thats been addled by drugs from my youth and pull blanks. so i say let me make an inflammatory thread on NC's. they'll post a bunch of dope shit from other rappers i can't think of at the moment.

but then i post the thread and 8 youtube vids later im watching standup comedy clips and im completely out of the zone i was when this thread was made

the internet is satan.

[Amen]

Pun one of the GOATS.

[Blue Bayou]

^^good argument

[BodySnatcher]

Nas maybe?

[The Dead Poet]

I agree. But to play devils advocate I submit AZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhfk2Db_lS0

[The Dead Poet]

also holocaust

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0pd71ujKto

[Destroyer]

Black thought easily the most underrated MC
Likely because he’s not a solo act
That freestyle solidified his place among the greats

[Destroyer]

My personal favorite with the pen is GZA though

[Geno]

Ya man. Black thought never ever fucking ceases to amaze and be brilliant. Lol. Hes been so underrated. Alept on. The least talked about ever in my entire hiphop loving remembrance of speaches. Why

[Geno]

For one. Holocaust is wack. That bobby digital travk is THE ONLYYYYY SHIY hes dope on. Ever.

AZ is a beast. But he lacks consistancy to me. Hes hit or miss in a big way and i mean the big way leaning more towards the misses. Love az on the firm album. Love him in features. But his own work is very low ranking and ive NEVER bought and az album because of this. Ever. Ive listened cause my brother has bought them and did not like at all.

Black though to.. I have never ever listened to a thoigh verse and been dissapointed. Ever. Someone give me some thought albums. Cause ive never heard one

[Kill Spree]

that black thought doesn't have the best pen in the history of hip hop.

good luck.

Been sayin this

[Schadenfreude]

..no need to, Thought's a genius.

[Elemental P]

I started listening to people like...
Copywrite, Diabolic, dzk, Styles P and Jada, Meth and Red. Pun and Pac etc. But I never really listen to black thought. Also bump some Kool Keith

[The Dead Poet]

For one. Holocaust is wack. That bobby digital travk is THE ONLYYYYY SHIY hes dope on. Ever.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZQiZB6QDV0

[Ghost1]

wtf !? liquid swords is a top 5 wu album & a top 50 classic hip hop album period

smh this site triggering me today

[BodySnatcher]

wtf !? liquid swords is a top 5 wu album & a top 50 classic hip hop album period



FACTS


for me...

1. 36 Chambers
2. Cuban Linx
3. Liquid
4. Fishscale or Supreme
5. Tical or Forever

Indecisive

[Ghost1]

hm yea supreme clientelle ranks really high for me......and I feel like you almost have to separate solo projects from group efforts in order to fairly compile a list

a couple sophomore efforts have me questioning preference also like...tical vs t2000 & 36 vs forever

damn ill have to come back to this

[BodySnatcher]

36 over Forever...
Bobby over Digital Bullet.....Bobby blows out Bullet & Bobby album is overrated
Liquid over Beneath Surface
Return to 36 over Nigga Please
Tical over Judgement Day....really close though.
Cuban Linx over Immobilarity

Ghostface solo efforts only got better from Ironman to Supreme to Fishscale. I feel the first solo efforts from the rest were there best. Not saying what they drop after was wack because it was good just not as good as the first LP.

[GUDELJ]

Very debatable. I think drag-on

[El Muffin]

Canibus

Rip the jacker

[Chyeahhh!!!]

oh shit good mention on Holocaust, beast.



far as black thought goes, besides his pen, if you factor in, performance, voice projection, breath control, timing, word placement, flow, lyrical prowness, freestyle, an what his peers say about him.......and all types of other shit, he's the best and I have to say that. Being a writer myself and noticing all the intricate shit that gets missed by your average listener, dissecting his style, you really can appreciate just how profound this dude is, and pulls it off effortlessly it sounds. ..He's probably better than anyone.

His story is pretty crazy too, super fucked up childhood and had every excuse in the book to be yah average in jail super thugged out nigga. Instead he's a family man, super humble dude, member of one of the best hip hop band and if he boasted like the others he'd have the sauce to back it up, but he's just super chill.

I remember back in like 98 niggas was talking about him being top 10, I was like hell no, I mean I didn't really check for him outside the regular singles on TV and shit, then the Big Pun feature, thought he held his own comfortably.

I consider myself a true hip hop head but almost felt like I knew nothing when Black Thought dropped that freestyle on Funk Flex. I said a few years back I thought he had verse of the year on Prhyme's Wishin II. I almost thank god I slept on this dude for almost 20 years because in this day and age of lyrical bullshit it was like I was supposed to sleep on this dude so I'd have an endless supply of untapped greatness to enjoy in a time where it's needed most.

[uh-oh]

I slept on him a stupid long time too. It wasnt til the roots album from like 2010 when i actually paid attention. Maybe 2012 i know it wasnt that long ago. When i get home i can link some shit off the album that had me pay attention

But word he bodies everything ridiculously. I consider timing word placement and flow in with the penmamship as well though because its written with all that in mind, but word

[The Dead Poet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_iSUmnccSc

[trap]

i also agree.
but my devils advocates are percee p and pharoahe monch.
i thoroughly enjoy them just as much as thought.

[~RustyGunZ~]

He’s one of the best. I don’t think there’s really one person that sticks out as significantly better than anyone regardless of preference, so wouldn’t say you can claim one single person as the overall best.

His cypher verses make my kid stop crying so he’s the GOAT in my book.

[Flow]

Tical over judge everyday