Boycotting Kanye (All the black users should agree)

[Aero]

Boycotting this man for saying 400 years of slavery is a choice. He owes my ancestors an apology.



http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/apple/video.php?v=wshhf6CuB8lKwHY12zZ7

[Amen]

Agreed. Any nigga that chooses to get fat sucked out of him via a women’s procedure rather then hit the gym should just change sex while they are at it, like his father in law.

All because he doesn’t want to be teased like his brother in law LMAO.

[Aero]

Agreed. Any nigga that chooses to get fat sucked out of him via a women’s procedure rather then hit the gym should just change sex while they are at it, like his father in law.

All because he doesn’t want to be teased like his brother in law LMAO.



That man is still fat. Are you saying he got nip tuck or lipo?

[boof]

he doesn't know history

that's basically it.

kanye never been an accurate dude logically. just an idea guy

he's just tryna conjure up new dialogue while simultaneously hyping himself up for an album release and probably an actual presidential run next year as a republican. he's on alex jones today

[El Muffin]

All good

I haven't been peepin his shit anyway

I hear of his antics n I'm like nopenopenopenope ion want to hear it

Moving along

[Aero]

he doesn't know history

that's basically it.

kanye never been an accurate dude logically. just an idea guy

he's just tryna conjure up new dialogue while simultaneously hyping himself up for an album release and probably an actual presidential run next year as a republican. he's on alex jones today


This about sums it up.


Mods.

[Amen]

That man is still fat. Are you saying he got nip tuck or lipo?

Got LIPO, smh...

[Aero]

Alright I'm done with the nigga.

[Eŋg]

i don't know what he said but i'll agree with him.

[Ghost1]

conservatives everywhere face palming after slavery comment smh

"how can we market this house nigger now!?!"

[Schadenfreude]

He's trolling, but I been thought he was out of his mind.

Fool had a full psychological break after his Mom died.

[Moe Jetts]

If you guys listen Kanye will save black folks. The slave comment is obviously takken out of context. You guys can’t be that stupid. The fact that you guys allow yourselves to still enslaved at this point when you are obviously free and have every opportunity in the world to do something with your life is what he’s talking about. And the fact that he is being bullied for having a different opinion proves his point. You are taught to think like a slave by liberal media and place blame at everyone but yourselves. Taught to believe that you are down before you even think about getting up. In three years Kanye will be a hero to black folks if they just listen to what he’s saying. Not to follow him or believe what he believes but to listen and become a free thinker. Think for yourself. Figure out what you believe in. Not what they tell you to believe in. I’m getting a kanye tattoo in his MAGA hat. That man is a breath of fresh air in a world of scared white liberals and sheep black people.

[boof]

conservatives everywhere face palming after slavery comment smh

"how can we market this house nigger now!?!"


naaa bro conservatives drooling rn, a black dude telling other black ppl its their fault for not escaping slavery? they're all about the bootstrap bullshit

this why he's gonna run as a republican and this why i think high ranking republicans are gonna be fine with it. higher ups gonna put him on a pedestal. let him run a muck. screw shit up even more. he's basically gonna run the same path as trump. media & social media will never shut up about him(they already don't), he'll have all the publicity needed. turning point usa & rebuilding america now gonna fund the shit out of him. very possible if thats where he's tryna take it

[boof]

If you guys listen Kanye will save black folks. The slave comment is obviously takken out of context. You guys can’t be that stupid. The fact that you guys allow yourselves to still enslaved at this point when you are obviously free and have every opportunity in the world to do something with your life is what he’s talking about. And the fact that he is being bullied for having a different opinion proves his point. You are taught to think like a slave by liberal media and place blame at everyone but yourselves. Taught to believe that you are down before you even think about getting up. In three years Kanye will be a hero to black folks if they just listen to what he’s saying. Not to follow him or believe what he believes but to listen and become a free thinker. Think for yourself. Figure out what you believe in. Not what they tell you to believe in. I’m getting a kanye tattoo in his MAGA hat. That man is a breath of fresh air in a world of scared white liberals and sheep black people.

you're halfway right for how satirical you're trying to be

[Chyeahhh!!!]

I've said before once a celebrity dyes there hair they go crazy. All this dude is here to do now is distract people, seems it's working.

[Chyeahhh!!!]

he's been fully MKULTRA'd

[boof]

if he has i think he's trying to resist it like crazy and overcompensating. why u think he's so obsessed with feeling like he's a free thinker? because he's feeling like he's not. he already talked about how he thought docs were gonna kill him in the hospital after his breakdown he begged his friends to stay in the room and shit.

[uh-oh]

i like how we're all pretending we didn't know kanye is insane

i love his wild swings of emotion and thought. also booth he said 2024.

he's going to have the trump campaign with bernie sanders' principles. good luck with that lmao


but its been hilarious watching the conservatives embrace him, then he tweets that emma gonzalez is his hero and they're like uhhh wut. he's an entertaining troll at best, but in reality he is a dude with a talented ear and a good mind for marketing that has been surrounded by yes men and people who tell him he is great so much that he drank all the kool aid being given to him until he was sick from it, and he doesn't know what or who he is and he's surrounded by a family that destroys black men.

only tristan thompson is coming out unscathed so far. finger blasting instagram ho's in hotel lobbies like a god damn gentleman

[Flow]

Kanye is an idiot an has way too much ego so struggles to articulate his points an probably doubts he needs to. I work with special people for a living an so I think I get his point, or what he was trying to say, but hes just a fucking idiot for making it. Everyone needs to treat him like the mentally challanged guy he is an stop taking offence. I dont believe its been done with the malicious intent some claim an tbh its his opinon an hes entitled to it. Fucking dumbass though

[WRATH]

I'll go with the intentions of explaining mental enslavement, expressed through a whitewashed lifestyle.

[Aero]

I'll go with the intentions of explaining mental enslavement, expressed through a whitewashed lifestyle.

Yea kinda like that. As a black textcee you should vote on that Muff vs Aero battle or at least give your thoughts.

And uh-oh I finally agree with you that's whatsup.

[Geno]

Lol. Man. I couls go into this. But kanye da god.

He did admit to lipo tho. And addiction to opiates after which hence yhe breakdown.

Anyway. Listen close to kanye. He aint dumb as you think

[Aero]

Lol. Man. I couls go into this. But kanye da god.

He did admit to lipo tho. And addiction to opiates after which hence yhe breakdown.

Anyway. Listen close to kanye. He aint dumb as you think


Kanye isn't dumb at all he's highly intelligent it's just that his big ego can be popped instantly. Like why are you getting lipo? Just hit the gym. His wife's ex the football player I forget his name was chiseled. Kanye will never be. No homo but I think Ray J has a bigger phallus than Kanye and he made a video starring Kanye's now wife. This big ego is just a cover up. I say that to say he uses controversy for relevance. Relevance feeds Kanye's ego but to disrespect his ancestors by saying they had a choice with physical slavery is appalling even for him. Kanye wouldn't last a day 300 years ago and he wouldn't have the platform for his fragile ego neither.

[Geno]

I feel you dog.
And it probably is disrespectful. Idk. I mean im not blk so i cant rly sit here and talk like i understand how that shit feels.

Kanye up to something. Thats all ik. And i appreciate that in a guy. He knows how.to win. Even when hes losing. Weve seen it before. Well see it again.

I do think he needs to tread lightly.though. daz dillinger put a crip alert on his ass lmao. Told all crips to bang on sight in this video i peeped.. Lmao He aint safe.in cali. Lmfao. Hes plucking nerves man. And i think he could get himslef. Hurt. Not that id be effected other than losing a great artist whos work i rly appreciate and look forward to. Cant say as much for what he does outside the music. But i can say there is always a certain hidden point to his insanity. A method if you will. Idk. Good luck with him though my blk amaericans. Smh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXzqR7fSUBc


This could all be a big co-op though for record sales. Idk. Wouldnt be surprised no more

[boof]

he's going to have the trump campaign with bernie sanders' principles. good luck with that lmao


lmao this sounds unbeatable tho

but i disagree with the yes man thing. he constantly brings in people way different from him literally just to challenge his ideas. this is a big part of the reason i like him. aint u see him in the tmz office? that one cat called him out right away. pretty beautifully might i add. and kanye went over and apologized. u seen the convo with ti? same thing right. ti calls him out on his bullshit. kanye invited him there to do that.

[Ghost1]

naaa bro conservatives drooling rn, a black dude telling other black ppl its their fault for not escaping slavery? they're all about the bootstrap bullshit

this why he's gonna run as a republican and this why i think high ranking republicans are gonna be fine with it. higher ups gonna put him on a pedestal. let him run a muck. screw shit up even more. he's basically gonna run the same path as trump. media & social media will never shut up about him(they already don't), he'll have all the publicity needed. turning point usa & rebuilding america now gonna fund the shit out of him. very possible if thats where he's tryna take it



If you guys listen Kanye will save black folks. The slave comment is obviously takken out of context. You guys can’t be that stupid. The fact that you guys allow yourselves to still enslaved at this point when you are obviously free and have every opportunity in the world to do something with your life is what he’s talking about. And the fact that he is being bullied for having a different opinion proves his point. You are taught to think like a slave by liberal media and place blame at everyone but yourselves. Taught to believe that you are down before you even think about getting up. In three years Kanye will be a hero to black folks if they just listen to what he’s saying. Not to follow him or believe what he believes but to listen and become a free thinker. Think for yourself. Figure out what you believe in. Not what they tell you to believe in. I’m getting a kanye tattoo in his MAGA hat. That man is a breath of fresh air in a world of scared white liberals and sheep black people.


Lol touché to boofs point

[Flow]

It says alot about your country tbh that kanye is even being discussed regarding politics. Not that i have any reason to doubt any americans intellect i have conversed eith, . Just says alot about your majority that i have no doubts the dude could end up as president. After Trump I got no expectations

[Ghost1]

STFU NIGGA

I will only tolerate Americans critisizing America

WE WILL LET BAHD BAHBIE RUN FOR.PRESIDENT IF WE FUCKING FEEL SO INCLINED

fucking nuke u mongrels until ur children have eyes growing on their hands.

[uh-oh]

lmao this sounds unbeatable tho

but i disagree with the yes man thing. he constantly brings in people way different from him literally just to challenge his ideas. this is a big part of the reason i like him. aint u see him in the tmz office? that one cat called him out right away. pretty beautifully might i add. and kanye went over and apologized. u seen the convo with ti? same thing right. ti calls him out on his bullshit. kanye invited him there to do that.

there is a big difference between media appearances and everyday life.

also the same thing kanye ignores in his love of trump is what got trump elected. everyone on the left seemed to ignore it. it was his actual policies. anti illegal immigration, cutting taxes, the second amendment, repealing obamacare etc. etc.

i don't know how bernies socialism will fly with the majority of america, espescially after 8 years of the opposite which people are actually benefitting from.

the dummies i know who voted for trump actually saw a president go through with campaign promises and actually stick to most of them

people like me, a retarded libertarian, dislike him for passing that retardedly bloated budget and his pension for allowing the warmongers to monger lol. but the majority of right leaning people still love him anyways

maybe if the dems don't steal the primary for an old vapid cunt again some ancient form of bernie will try again, and we will see how it flies in an actual election though

the pendulum tends to swing eh

[Aero]

STFU NIGGA

I will only tolerate Americans critisizing America

WE WILL LET BAHD BAHBIE RUN FOR.PRESIDENT IF WE FUCKING FEEL SO INCLINED

fucking nuke u mongrels until ur children have eyes growing on their hands.


Bhad Bahbie Gucci Flip Flop song is growing on me. Pull up if you think differently.

[WRATH]

She had potential since these heauxs. She snatched up whoa vicky how you gonna deny her thug.

[Geno]

Moe Jetts
That was a really good point/view and i agree 1000000%. Thankmyou for conveying something i was having a hard time conveying here for forever. Adieu

And..
Im just saying.. bahd bahbie can get this bihg cohck. Shes a dihck chahrmer

[Enbombz]

Guys a clown.

It's mad how many famous mentally unstable people have a lot of say over there.

[Amen]

Bhad Bahbie Gucci Flip Flop song is growing on me. Pull up if you think differently.

Lmao, bro.

[Amen]

Moe Jetts
That was a really good point/view and i agree 1000000%. Thankmyou for conveying something i was having a hard time conveying here for forever. Adieu

And..
Im just saying.. bahd bahbie can get this bihg cohck. Shes a dihck chahrmer

She's like 15, bro.

[Geno]

Oh.
@muff then
Lls

[Amen]

This nigga Kanye causing the great division between blacks over his comment LMAO.

I'm watching black people on facebook go at one another over this faggot nigga logic.

Low key enjoy it lol...

Wakanda about to split.

[Diode]

If you guys listen Kanye will save black folks. The slave comment is obviously takken out of context. You guys can’t be that stupid. The fact that you guys allow yourselves to still enslaved at this point when you are obviously free and have every opportunity in the world to do something with your life is what he’s talking about. And the fact that he is being bullied for having a different opinion proves his point. You are taught to think like a slave by liberal media and place blame at everyone but yourselves. Taught to believe that you are down before you even think about getting up. In three years Kanye will be a hero to black folks if they just listen to what he’s saying. Not to follow him or believe what he believes but to listen and become a free thinker. Think for yourself. Figure out what you believe in. Not what they tell you to believe in. I’m getting a kanye tattoo in his MAGA hat. That man is a breath of fresh air in a world of scared white liberals and sheep black people.

stormfront is that way ->>>>>>>>>>

have a good time

[uh-oh]

How does that make metts a stormfront white supremacist?

Thats some of that weirdo leftie logic at its best

[Diode]

lol @ you think a black person has "every opportunity in the world"

lol

can't catch my breath i'm laughing so hard

[Diode]

also double lol @ a white dude talking down black people and saying they are taught to think like a slave and that's the source of their problems, not a society literally built to suppress them

hahahahaha

SIT DOWN AND STFU BOTH OF YOU

[uh-oh]

Yea i dunno. There are plenty of black people who would say exactly what metts said. But they are labeled uncle toms because they expose the veil of victimhood the left hides them under.

No one has every opportunity but this narrative of society being built solely to oppress black people is goofy.

[Diode]

the veil of victimhood the left hides them under.


oh just fuck off dude

[~RustyGunZ~]

Moe Jetts
That was a really good point/view and i agree 1000000%. Thankmyou for conveying something i was having a hard time conveying here for forever. Adieu

And..
Im just saying.. bahd bahbie can get this bihg cohck. Shes a dihck chahrmer

Hush and TYSON already smashed bruh

[~RustyGunZ~]

Also uh oh beats diode currently in their back and forth. You can’t call for inclusion and then call someone a white supremacist over a nitpicked exaggeration. He obviously meant what uh oh said, and means that they aren’t disadvantaged any further.

Can you back your views up with facts? Or are you trolling?

I wrote an academic paper on political correctness recently and learned a lot, you should analyze how the movement contradicts itself and hurts people more than it helps in its current form.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Yea i dunno. There are plenty of black people who would say exactly what metts said. But they are labeled uncle toms because they expose the veil of victimhood the left hides them under.

No one has every opportunity but this narrative of society being built solely to oppress black people is goofy.


The narrative of it being built isn’t goofy, the narrative that it hasn’t been repaired close to as far as it can be is though. Don’t be so black and white. Don’t sit in the middle, sit in the other field.

[Diode]

Also uh oh beats diode currently in their back and forth. You can’t call for inclusion and then call someone a white supremacist over a nitpicked exaggeration. He obviously meant what uh oh said, and means that they aren’t disadvantaged any further.

Can you back your views up with facts? Or are you trolling?

I wrote an academic paper on political correctness recently and learned a lot, you should analyze how the movement contradicts itself and hurts people more than it helps in its current form.

Echoing literal Stormfront talking points is why I made the comment of where to find it. The claims that black people have all the opportunity in the world and it's their own fault, they enslave themselves by listening to the media, white liberals, blah blah blah.

You're creating a false dichotomy, btw. Being in favor of inclusion has its limits, to the effect where someone who is advocating against the best interests of an entire class of people have no seat at the table. Stop the slippery slope in its tracks. It's a favorite talking point of the neo-cons "well you should include everyone, even hate groups!" - no, there is no discussion there. Sorry.

What views of mine are you asking for facts on? The systemic oppression of minorities in this country? Do you seriously have the inability to acknowledge and do a simple search? It's not like it's a difficult subject to find empirical evidence on these days.

Political correctness has nothing to do with anything we are discussing here, by the way, unless basic fucking decency is considered the "PC Boogeyman" to you, in which case - again - this conversation is a non-starter.

[Moe Jetts]

Diode is the type of white person blacks don’t need thinking for them lol privileged and unaware of the real world. But word. I’m a racist because I believe a different thought process could be more helpful than hand outs and pity from every white person that is scared to not be accepted by everyone. Black people in some cases may start in a little deeper hole than white folks but the climb out is achievable. Problem is if they are told they can’t climb out from a young age then they don’t even attempt and we have areas like Chicago and Baltimore city.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Echoing literal Stormfront talking points is why I made the comment of where to find it. The claims that black people have all the opportunity in the world and it's their own fault, they enslave themselves by listening to the media, white liberals, blah blah blah.

You're creating a false dichotomy, btw. Being in favor of inclusion has its limits, to the effect where someone who is advocating against the best interests of an entire class of people have no seat at the table. Stop the slippery slope in its tracks. It's a favorite talking point of the neo-cons "well you should include everyone, even hate groups!" - no, there is no discussion there. Sorry.

What views of mine are you asking for facts on? The systemic oppression of minorities in this country? Do you seriously have the inability to acknowledge and do a simple search? It's not like it's a difficult subject to find empirical evidence on these days.

Political correctness has nothing to do with anything we are discussing here, by the way, unless basic fucking decency is considered the "PC Boogeyman" to you, in which case - again - this conversation is a non-starter.

It’s crazy how you have all the best opinions that no one can refute so why bother

What a blessed soul you are to have facts as opinions on everything in life.

You’re being a dumb and moody bitch.

Techniques to cook chicken aren’t relevant to cooking pork because chicken isn’t pork

Why talk about how I keep my zucchini growing well when you ask for advice on how to garden carrots!

Bet you taste your own semen ala muff but the curiosity wandered years ago

Pompous cunt

[Diode]

Diode is the type of white person blacks don’t need thinking for them lol privileged and unaware of the real world. But word. I’m a racist because I believe a different thought process could be more helpful than hand outs and pity from every white person that is scared to not be accepted by everyone. Black people in some cases may start in a little deeper hole than white folks but the climb out is achievable. Problem is if they are told they can’t climb out from a young age then they don’t even attempt and we have areas like Chicago and Baltimore city.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha you are literally a breitbart article generator

love it

[Diode]

It’s crazy how you have all the best opinions that no one can refute so why bother

What a blessed soul you are to have facts as opinions on everything in life.

You’re being a dumb and moody bitch.

Techniques to cook chicken aren’t relevant to cooking pork because chicken isn’t pork

Why talk about how I keep my zucchini growing well when you ask for advice on how to garden carrots!

Bet you taste your own semen ala muff but the curiosity wandered years ago

Pompous cunt

Cool we're bringing this character back.

What the fuck do I know about politics, history, and race? I don't have degrees and shelves full of books on the subject. Please educate me, internet man©

[boof]

oh i thought metts was being sarcastic.

he is half right though.

and diode you are half right as well.

and this is where it's important to give & take but it never happens

[Moe Jetts]

Andrew Da God

[~RustyGunZ~]

Cool we're bringing this character back.

What the fuck do I know about politics, history, and race? I don't have degrees and shelves full of books on the subject. Please educate me, internet man©


What character? One that doesn’t think your gods gift to man? Who plus that character lmao?

So educate others that have opposing views? Why bother learning all of that just so you can tell people they’re idiots and wrong about anything you disagree with? You realize there are hundreds of thousands of people that have as much and more knowledge than you. Why are you special?

If you have an opinion than back it up. You’re not a respected figure in the field, just saying because you say so isn’t sufficient. Since you have hundreds of books and all this knowledge use examples to back your views up. Convince people you’re right.

[Diode]

What character? One that doesn’t think your gods gift to man? Who plus that character lmao?

So educate others that have opposing views? Why bother learning all of that just so you can tell people they’re idiots and wrong about anything you disagree with? You realize hundreds of thousands of people that have as much and more knowledge than you. Why are you special?

If you have an opinion than back it up. You’re not a respected figure in the field, just saying because you say so isn’t sufficient. Since you have hundreds of books and all this knowledge use examples to back your views up. Convince people you’re right.

I responded to every one of your points in a clear manner. I do not begin debates off of logical fallacies, for which you used several, as there is no point in discussing a premise that was constructed out of thin air. When you want to come to the table with legitimate or specific questions, I will be happy to engage. Not interested in ad hominem attacks and slippery slopes and straw men.

[~RustyGunZ~]

I responded to every one of your points in a clear manner. I do not begin debates off of logical fallacies, for which you used several, as there is no point in discussing a premise that was constructed out of thin air. When you want to come to the table with legitimate or specific questions, I will be happy to engage. Not interested in ad hominem attacks and slippery slopes and straw men.

Lmao you’re such a fucking faggot dude

No one thinks you’re anywhere near the level of importance that you think you’re at. And you’re going to continue to be a middle of the road loser and burns out into nothing if you continue to think you’re the best version of you (or as it seems with you,best version of a human).

Can’t wait to see you fail. Done trying to hope you’re just a little stuck up. You’re a full blown egomaniac.

[Diode]

Lmao you’re such a fucking faggot dude

No one thinks you’re anywhere near the level of importance that you think you’re at. And you’re going to continue to be a middle of the road loser and burns out into nothing if you continue to think you’re the best version of you (or as it seems with you,best version of a human).

Can’t wait to see you fail. Done trying to hope you’re just a little stuck up. You’re a full blown egomaniac.

You seem upset. Notice I didn't attack you anywhere, just asked for you to offer specific questions. Apparently this was an egregious request.

Have fun trolling the internet, brotato chip. Take a xanax. Relax.

[~RustyGunZ~]

You seem upset. Notice I didn't attack you anywhere, just asked for you to offer specific questions. Apparently this was an egregious request.

Have fun trolling the internet, brotato chip. Take a xanax. Relax.

I’m not trolling. You’re a legit cancer. You attacked me by assuming your opinion was greater than mine because you went to college like the rest of us. I asked many specific questions that you lack the gumption and free will to answer. Keep being a puppet to your left agenda.

[Diode]

I’m not trolling. You’re a legit cancer. You attacked me by assuming your opinion was greater than mine because you went to college like the rest of us. I asked many specific questions that you lack the gumption and free will to answer. Keep being a puppet to your left agenda.

I never attacked you? You questioned my legitimacy and I responded in kind. Was it a bit ascerbic? Sure, but you've been a dick throughout the thread.

"Puppet to your left agenda"

And now the truth comes out. Have a good one fighting that good fight for the poor, overburdened white folks.

[~RustyGunZ~]

I never attacked you? You questioned my legitimacy and I responded in kind. Was it a bit ascerbic? Sure, but you've been a dick throughout the thread.

"Puppet to your left agenda"

And now the truth comes out. Have a good one fighting that good fight for the poor, overburdened white folks.

So I don’t agree with extreme leftist, therefore I’m right wing?

You’re so logical and advanced no wonder you got yourself dat degree man. Truly a great addition to our society.

[Diode]

So I don’t agree with extreme leftist, therefore I’m right wing?

You’re so logical and advanced no wonder you got yourself dat degree man. Truly a great addition to our society.

There's that slippery slope again. Back to sociology 101 for you.

Did I say you were right wing? I said good luck fighting the good fight for poor, overburdened white folks.

Gone @ extreme leftist. I'm a left-leaning moderate at best and boy, if you think I'm extreme, do I have news for you. Hahaha.

Have a good one.

[Amen]

Kanye even got white people going at one another.

[~RustyGunZ~]

There's that slippery slope again. Back to sociology 101 for you.

Did I say you were right wing? I said good luck fighting the good fight for poor, overburdened white folks.

Gone @ extreme leftist. I'm a left-leaning moderate at best and boy, if you think I'm extreme, do I have news for you. Hahaha.

Have a good one.

So if you strongly imply something it shouldn’t be implied? What about anything I’ve said supports the idea that I think whites people are overburdened?

Inb4 “ not a question”

[Diode]

So if you strongly imply something it shouldn’t be implied? What about anything I’ve said supports the idea that I think whites people are overburdened?

Inb4 “ not a question”

You've literally argued on this forum that poor white people have it just as bad as minorities in this country. I'm sorry if you decide to turn Seth on and off and that wasn't your actual opinion, in which case, please clarify - but I can only work with what you've posted in the past.

[~RustyGunZ~]

You've literally argued on this forum that poor white people have it just as bad as minorities in this country. I'm sorry if you decide to turn Seth on and off and that wasn't your actual opinion, in which case, please clarify - but I can only work with what you've posted in the past.

That was Scheinberg lol

Sorry thought that was clear in my thread before.

[Ghost1]

Also uh oh beats diode currently in their back and forth. You can’t call for inclusion and then call someone a white supremacist over a nitpicked exaggeration. He obviously meant what uh oh said, and means that they aren’t disadvantaged any further.

Can you back your views up with facts? Or are you trolling?

I wrote an academic paper on political correctness recently and learned a lot, you should analyze how the movement contradicts itself and hurts people more than it helps in its current form.

was this scheinberg?

[~RustyGunZ~]

was this scheinberg?

Seems you made one area big and another bold

Which are you referring to? If the bolded bit, clarify

[Amen]

Don't you fucking back peddle now, Knuck - stand your ground.

[Ghost1]

Seems you made one area big and another bold

Which are you referring to? If the bolded bit, clarify

the first part indicating you thought that diode was losing the argument...the 2nd part explaining uh ohs side of the argument....the 3rd part advising diode to research information supporting uh ohs argument, seemed to me to say that you pretty clearly agreed with uh oh............and uh is clearly saying that there is no longer an excuse for black poverty and that they are responsible for their own low class status.........which is exactly what diode is saying that you said.

so I guess that is where im confused when you just said that's not what you are currently saying.......I think diode would agree


if you were just sayng that diode argues like a child ....which is why you thought he was losing the argument.....despite the validity of his position....then say that.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Don't you fucking back peddle now, Knuck - stand your ground.

Where am I back peddling?

[Ghost1]

so heres my view on his dialogue overall

free thought in the face of biased media propaganda and unconditional love are worthwhile talking points.................. but who the fuck didn't already know about them? and you cant completely eradicate existing socioeconomic disparity and unequal distribution of extreme poverty amongst specific demographics just to make that position work. its really as simple as the fact that kanyes perspective on poverty in America is laughable at best. the fact that hes living a façade and struggling to identify with his target audience almost as much as hes struggling to find base in his own reality should be glaring indicators as to why the information he is offering is so grossly out of touch.

[~RustyGunZ~]

the first part indicating you thought that diode was losing the argument...the 2nd part explaining uh ohs side of the argument....the 3rd part advising diode to research information supporting uh ohs argument, seemed to me to say that you pretty clearly agreed with uh oh............and uh is clearly saying that there is no longer an excuse for black poverty and that they are responsible for their own low class status.........which is exactly what diode is saying that you said.

so I guess that is where im confused when you just said that's not what you are currently saying.......I think diode would agree


if you were just sayng that diode argues like a child ....which is why you thought he was losing the argument.....despite the validity of his position....then say that.

Reread it. Nothing points to me explicitly siding with uh oh. It actually defends joe and not uh oh. And I was pretty obviously, in my opinion, defending his right to have a view on something relating to minorities and not be a white supremicist. Being that cut and dry about opposing views is nonsense and beyond childish. Children don’t have the thought process to go out of their way to ignore anything they don’t like.

Really solid post by me that I haven’t seen anyone refute yet. Just yelling nonsense on a Golden soap box made of diamonds.

[Diode]

Really solid post by me that I haven’t seen anyone refute yet. Just yelling nonsense on a Golden soap box made of diamonds.

The cognitive dissonance is remarkable.

veritas

[Ghost1]

uh oh/joe same thing. their views are one and the same. but word.....that was my other thought that you just meant diode was arguing like a child.......but you could see how that could be misunderstood by what you said....and also why you and diode argued about it afterwards for 2 pages lol

[~RustyGunZ~]

The cognitive dissonance is remarkable.

veritas

How so? Please give examples

If you’re confused by that request like you have been with everything anyone has said to you, I am asking you to provide evidence of your claims. Evidence is something you use to support your opinions and arguments.

I can get some some definitions if you need. As Mr Internet, I am great with googling.

[~RustyGunZ~]

uh oh/joe same thing. their views are one and the same. but word.....that was my other thought that you just meant diode was arguing like a child.......but you could see how that could be misunderstood by what you said....and also why you and diode argued about it afterwards for 2 pages lol

I was pretty clear after too. Brought up political correctness obviously going against his need to censor anything he finds offensive. He dismissed it. I did 2 pages of throwing peebles at an angry dog trying to make it stop barking. There were no arguments, since diode had none.

[Diode]

How so? Please give examples

If you’re confused by that request like you have been with everything anyone has said to you, I am asking you to provide evidence of your claims. Evidence is something you use to support your opinions and arguments.

I can get some some definitions if you need. As Mr Internet, I am great with googling.

I'm not debating with a child.

But I will clue you in - you go on a rant about how nobody can refute you and you're superior while at the same time calling me out for my ivory tower elitism.

PRETTY GOOD JOKE.

Anyway, I'm done with you, so please enjoy the next few posts of Bags exposing you.

[Ghost1]

lol I was just trying to get clarification.


what is your position on what kanye said knuck?

[~RustyGunZ~]

I'm not debating with a child.

But I will clue you in - you go on a rant about how nobody can refute you and you're superior while at the same time calling me out for my ivory tower elitism.

PRETTY GOOD JOKE.

Anyway, I'm done with you, so please enjoy the next few posts of Bags exposing you.

Where did I say no one can refute me? You didn’t try to! Lmao come on man.

I actually didn’t really say much to refute, I was just trying to get you to back up your arugemnrt against uh oh or joe so they could have a fair rebuttal back. Bags doesn’t seem to be trying to attack me. Definitely it exposing anything? I think you need an internet break.

[~RustyGunZ~]

lol I was just trying to get clarification.


what is your position on what kanye said knuck?

Honestly man, I really dislike the guy lol. So I haven’t looked to deep into it. Can’t get myself to waste the time watching him rant at tmz. Sounds painful.

Overall I guess my position is he has the right to say what he wants, and he has the responsibility to deal with the consequences of his words. If he starts losing sponsors/business deals or something I might look more into it. He did what he wanted though. Which is to get hype around some new hot booty juice music.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Also not 100% sure what the deal is with his slavery comments. Seen things that it was awful and others that it was waayy out of context.

[Moe Jetts]

Kanye is literally the sanest he’s ever been at this point in his life lol this is the weird brainwashing I’m talking about. Same people that praised that Katy perry cunt for apologizing she wore corn rows are the same people destroying this country. We live in a place where we can’t have a differing opinion without being called a name. The far left are like school children that make up a rumor about a kid having coodies and everyone believes it because if they don’t the far left will say they have coodies. We live in that world. It is insane. Grown people should be able to have a discussion. Push their agenda. Say their argument. And walk away shaking hands and respecting each other for having a opinion. Not worried about being called racist or insane or crazy or whatever.

[Ghost1]

word, idk if id go as far as saying its worth listening to....but it was interesting and hes a good speaker lol.

[~RustyGunZ~]

word, idk if id go as far as saying its worth listening to....but it was interesting and hes a good speaker lol.

How long is it? I’ll peep later most likely.

[Ghost1]

How long is it? I’ll peep later most likely.

12minutes give or take

[Moe Jetts]

Also not 100% sure what the deal is with his slavery comments. Seen things that it was awful and others that it was waayy out of context.

Literally all he was saying was that he shouldn’t be bullied for being a republican and Black people shouldn’t feel obligated to be a Democrat. Which they do feel that way. He wasn’t even pushing a republican agenda. It was more like a think for yourself speech.

[Aero]

Literally all he was saying was that he shouldn’t be bullied for being a republican and Black people shouldn’t feel obligated to be a Democrat. Which they do feel that way. He wasn’t even pushing a republican agenda. It was more like a think for yourself speech.

I only had a problem with the slavery was a choice comment. The thread is about slavery was a choice comment and you guys made it into something it wasn't. Don't speak on what the black community needs to do you don't have the mental capacity.

[~RustyGunZ~]

12minutes give or take

Oof. Will get some whiskey in me first.

[~RustyGunZ~]

I only had a problem with the slavery was a choice comment. The thread is about slavery was a choice comment and you guys made it into something it wasn't. Don't speak on what the black community needs to do you don't have the mental capacity.

You don’t think it was out of context?or was the context still shit if it was.?

[Moe Jetts]

I only had a problem with the slavery was a choice comment. The thread is about slavery was a choice comment and you guys made it into something it wasn't. Don't speak on what the black community needs to do you don't have the mental capacity.

Yea well I’m white and from Baltimore so I’d say I can speak a little bit on black people. And I addressed that comment if you would of read the thread. The same way you probably didn’t listen to Kanye and read the bait headline that has you playing Malcolm X on a hip hop site owned by a country club cracker.

[Diode]

We live in a place where we can’t have a differing opinion without being called a name / The far left are like school children

lol

[Diode]

Yea well I’m white and from Baltimore so I’d say I can speak a little bit on black people. And I addressed that comment if you would of read the thread. The same way you probably didn’t listen to Kanye and read the bait headline that has you playing Malcolm X on a hip hop site owned by a country club cracker.

i wish i had country club money

all i do is pay the bills for this thing. i stepped out of the day to day forever ago.

[Ghost1]

Literally all he was saying was that he shouldn’t be bullied for being a republican and Black people shouldn’t feel obligated to be a Democrat. Which they do feel that way. He wasn’t even pushing a republican agenda. It was more like a think for yourself speech.

ehhh he said a little more than that

if we are all agreeing that his slavery comment was to have been an analogy for black peoples present economic hardship........then he was saying that their distinct disadvantages are irrelevant when placed against determination and sheer will.

theres a lot of implications in that mentality that are just wrong. obviously there are people in that demographic doing everything they possibly can with their means and are still unable to overcome the economic disparity they are dealt.

hes implying that those people don't exist.....and I personally find that really fucking hard to believe.


yo....u can dispute this if u want but the equivalent of what kanye said is this.... black people are lazy fuckin idiots.


like I said there is a lot of merit to free thought in the face of media based propaganda and enduring love for mankind ..... but he said more than that ....we cannot pretend he didn't.

[Ghost1]

I only had a problem with the slavery was a choice comment. The thread is about slavery was a choice comment and you guys made it into something it wasn't. Don't speak on what the black community needs to do you don't have the mental capacity.

waiting for you to say something intelligent in this thread. youre embarrassing wakanda/

[Moe Jetts]

lol

All that education and you are still reaching. Expected more Ms. Daisy.

[Aero]

You don’t think it was out of context?or was the context still shit if it was.?

He said 400 years of slavery was a choice. He owes my ancestors an apology. He wouldn't survive a week in real slavery with how mentally fragile he is.

Moe Jetts take some time out and speak on how the white middle class is being squeezed out, moping & complaining. You talk bad on a group of people but never having real dialogue in your area I don't care if you're from BMore you're not voicing these opinions to people in the hood I know that.

[Aero]

waiting for you to say something intelligent in this thread. youre embarrassing wakanda/

Lol not about to have a dialogue with a bunch of white textcees on a subject like this. Not worth my typing.

[Moe Jetts]

Yea and why are black people lazy fucking idiots because of the white people that tell them society is designed to keep them down and they are doomed. Which white people are those? I wonder. Maybe a change in thought process is in order. Idk. Kanye probably just hates blacks.

[Diode]

Yea and why are black people lazy fucking idiots because of the white people that tell them society is designed to keep them down and they are doomed. Which white people are those? I wonder. Maybe a change in thought process is in order. Idk. Kanye probably just hates blacks.

legit question - are you of the opinion systemic oppression of minorities in the US is an illusion and a grand scheme by the "far left" to get votes? that this grand conspiracy by the evil libs is the only thing keeping black people from being treated equally in the US?

is this what you believe and if not, please correct the above to what your belief is. i really want to hear this. no hyperbole.

[Moe Jetts]

He said 400 years of slavery was a choice. He owes my ancestors an apology. He wouldn't survive a week in real slavery with how mentally fragile he is.

Moe Jetts take some time out and speak on how the white middle class is being squeezed out, moping & complaining. You talk bad on a group of people but never having real dialogue in your area I don't care if you're from BMore you're not voicing these opinions to people in the hood I know that.


I certainly am lol my people know my character and they know racist is the last thing I am. I don’t have to prove that to them or watch my mouth. I believe they are called real niggas. You wouldn’t relate. You are fake angry because you were born with a darker skin color. Man you are so down homie.

[Aero]

Yea and why are black people lazy fucking idiots because of the white people that tell them society is designed to keep them down and they are doomed. Which white people are those? I wonder. Maybe a change in thought process is in order. Idk. Kanye probably just hates blacks.

Whites are prone to pedophelia, beastiality and shooting up schools, malls, churches and Jason Aldean concerts lol. You probably live in the hood which why you're fed up with blacks. Get your money up.

[Ghost1]

I don't think a change in thought process is the ONLY thing that's in order though which I feel like again is what he said....whether he meant to or not....although I honestly do think in his out of touch perspective he s of a mind that this change of thought patterning in lower income districts would completely fix the issue.

[Moe Jetts]

legit question - are you of the opinion systemic oppression of minorities in the US is an illusion and a grand scheme by the "far left" to get votes? that this grand conspiracy by the evil libs is the only thing keeping black people from being treated equally in the US?

is this what you believe and if not, please correct the above to what your belief is. i really want to hear this. no hyperbole.

Yea I mean it’s not like master plan lol but both parties obviously want black support. And both should have it. Somehow democrats have landed the majority of minority’s just by saying conservatives are racist and black people just being like yea alright fuck them then. Is it not concerning that Democrats run on free shit for black people and tell them how bad they have it and black folks run to them. And republicans generally run on jobs for black people (African American unemployment at an all time low) and nobody cares lol but it is all about the black vote. That’s not debated is it? On both sides.

[Moe Jetts]

Whites are prone to pedophelia, beastiality and shooting up schools, malls, churches and Jason Aldean concerts lol. You probably live in the hood which why you're fed up with blacks. Get your money up.

And blacks are prone to killing each other.


Let’s all work on it.

[Moe Jetts]

Whites are prone to pedophelia, beastiality and shooting up schools, malls, churches and Jason Aldean concerts lol. You probably live in the hood which why you're fed up with blacks. Get your money up.

And I’m a director at a human services company. My money is fine.

A lot of hard work. Wink wink.

[Diode]

Yea I mean it’s not like master plan lol but both parties obviously want black support. And both should have it. Somehow democrats have landed the majority of minority’s just by saying conservatives are racist and black people just being like yea alright fuck them then. Is it not concerning that Democrats run on free shit for black people and tell them how bad they have it and black folks run to them. And republicans generally run on jobs for black people (African American unemployment at an all time low) and nobody cares lol but it is all about the black vote. That’s not debated is it? On both sides.

I want to make sure I understand you accurately (and this is not a dig/insult/etc):

You believe that Democrats have the majority of minority support because they tell them that Republicans are racist and run on a platform of telling minorities they deserve free things.

Is this correct? And if so, what is your level of familiarity with Reconstruction, the Jim Crow era, Dixiecrats and the Civil Rights movement, Reaganomics and the Crack Epidemic, etc? Again, honest questions because I think there is a learning opportunity here.

I'd like to be clear that my references to those things do not preclude your conclusion and I understand that they were in the past.

[boof]

black people have a lot of disadvantages in modern day society and it is a symptom of decades of targeted policies including law enforcement, real estate, gerrymandering, mandatory minimums, bail, school funding, obviously the war on drugs, etc. and it is not a coincidence that the people that disagree usually live the type of life uh-oh lives(staying in one concentrated area, no extended experiences trying to understand minority perspectives). a lot of it is socioeconomic, which if you remove empathy and understanding you can attempt to blame on individuals, which is what apparently gets uh-oh's dick hard at all times. but a substantial amount of the social inequalities are still because of the image media has portrayed concerning skin color for the last couple decades which is why it's so disgustingly unfair for things to still be as regressive as it is in 2018 for minorities in a lot of situations especially post-trump.

old lady in kuaui put it like this for me; if you've never taken a flight anywhere in your lifetime, and all you've ever seen about planes on the news is footage and stories of the ones that crash, you are going to think they're dangerous. i think this rings true for a high majority of the uniformly white areas of america. i think this is why cops shoot first around minorities.

but it is true that letting that mentality engulf your actions through out life will often times turn out counterproductive, as metts said. although the mentality is for good reason, and those reasons are true. like diode said.

it is understandable to have that mentality when dealing with all of these things whether it's because you've been told it since day 1 or because big or little, shit adds up as the years go on.

but demonizing each other about this first baby step of a long dialogue is going to get us nowhere. so compromise is completely necessary right out of the gate on both sides in order to get to the actual point of the conversation kanye tryna have us have anyways.

which is,

have we really tried defeating hate with overwhelming love? is there any practical way to make this work in current society. why can't an influential hip hop artist show unconditional love to a person in the most powerful position in america despite them being surrounded by people that are presumably racist at some level(or high levels). does this have to make him an uncle tom or can it do more by showing that minorities won't allow themselves to be effected negatively by racists. have we seen accidental courtesy? i know it's a controversial approach, which street activists don't take kindly to for good reason. but effectiveness is effectiveness regardless. and i think daryl davis in his micro contributions is as important as what street activists have been doing and unfortunately in the last decade what street activists do has been less effective because of numbers & stamina but also because the law makers in this country just don't at all give a shit about empathy. especially regarding minorities. they don't even give a shit about kids learning. about schools being funded. or any basic shit we all think would be something to consider in legislation. but face to face dialogue has a much better chance of creating empathy and understanding in the oppressors. and that's why i like what kanye is doing.

but i am white af so my opinion probably DUN'T MATTA

[Moe Jetts]

legit question - are you of the opinion systemic oppression of minorities in the US is an illusion and a grand scheme by the "far left" to get votes? that this grand conspiracy by the evil libs is the only thing keeping black people from being treated equally in the US?

is this what you believe and if not, please correct the above to what your belief is. i really want to hear this. no hyperbole.

And to the 2nd part. No. I’m saying black people keep black people from being treated equally with this slave mentality that the great grand wizard kanye was speaking on.

[boof]

dammit like 15 posts happened in the time it took me to post that let me catch up

[Inno]

that Kanye album gon be fiyah!!!

[Moe Jetts]

I want to make sure I understand you accurately (and this is not a dig/insult/etc):

You believe that Democrats have the majority of minority support because they tell them that Republicans are racist and run on a platform of telling minorities they deserve free things.

Is this correct? And if so, what is your level of familiarity with Reconstruction, the Jim Crow era, Dixiecrats and the Civil Rights movement, Reaganomics and the Crack Epidemic, etc? Again, honest questions because I think there is a learning opportunity here.

I'd like to be clear that my references to those things do not preclude your conclusion and I understand that they were in the past.


You’re not speaking to one of these dirt people boarders that play a character on message boards. Don’t disrespect me like this. If you are as smart as you like to tell everyone you are then you know exactly what I’m saying and what I’m familiar with.

[Moe Jetts]

black people have a lot of disadvantages in modern day society and it is a symptom of decades of targeted policies including law enforcement, real estate, gerrymandering, mandatory minimums, bail, school funding, obviously the war on drugs, etc. and it is not a coincidence that the people that disagree usually live the type of life uh-oh lives(staying in one concentrated area, no extended experiences trying to understand minority perspectives). a lot of it is socioeconomic, which if you remove empathy and understanding you can attempt to blame on individuals, which is what apparently gets uh-oh's dick hard at all times. but a substantial amount of the social inequalities are still because of the image media has portrayed concerning skin color for the last couple decades which is why it's so disgustingly unfair for things to still be as regressive as it is in 2018 for minorities in a lot of situations especially post
old lady in kuaui put it like this for me; if you've never taken a flight anywhere in your lifetime, and all you've ever seen about planes on the news is footage and stories of the ones that crash, you are going to think they're dangerous. i think this rings true for a high majority of the uniformly white areas of america. i think this is why cops shoot first around minorities.

but it is true that letting that mentality engulf your actions through out life will often times turn out counterproductive, as metts said. although the mentality is for good reason, and those reasons are true. like diode said.

it is understandable to have that mentality when dealing with all of these things whether it's because you've been told it since day 1 or because big or little, shit adds up as the years go on.

but demonizing each other about this first baby step of a long dialogue is going to get us nowhere. so compromise is completely necessary right out of the gate on both sides in order to get to the actual point of the conversation kanye tryna have us have anyways.

which is,

have we really tried defeating hate with overwhelming love? is there any practical way to make this work in current society. why can't an influential hip hop artist show unconditional love to a person in the most powerful position in america despite them being surrounded by people that are presumably racist at some level(or high levels). does this have to make him an uncle tom or can it do more by showing that minorities won't allow themselves to be effected negatively by racists. have we seen accidental courtesy? i know it's a controversial approach, which street activists don't take kindly to for good reason. but effectiveness is effectiveness regardless. and i think daryl davis in his micro contributions is as important as what street activists have been doing and unfortunately in the last decade what street activists do has been less effective because of numbers & stamina but also because the law makers in this country just don't at all give a shit about empathy. especially regarding minorities. they don't even give a shit about kids learning. about schools being funded. or any basic shit we all think would be something to consider in legislation. but face to face dialogue has a much better chance of creating empathy and understanding in the oppressors. and that's why i like what kanye is doing.

but i am white af so my opinion probably DUN'T MATTA


Kanye started the convo. That’s huge.

[Ghost1]

see that's my other issue.......kanye did not start the convo ....not among people actually educated on the topic

...and im not saying anyone in this conversation isn't educated on the topic......what im saying is that a lot of people that this is going to reach based on kanyes unique platform of influence (our youth) ARE uneducated on the matter so if this is the only info they are getting on the case and hes jumbling the fucking message and information it will do more harm than good.

[boof]

Yea and why are black people lazy fucking idiots because of the white people that tell them society is designed to keep them down and they are doomed.


i've never understood how pointing out designed truths in the system can be confused with trying to keep people down psychologically

the shit's real, explaining it loudly is to help & increase awareness of the obstacles in place, not to say you are inevitably doomed

[Moe Jetts]

see that's my other issue.......kanye did not start the convo ....not among people actually educated on the topic

...and im not saying anyone in this conversation isn't educated on the topic......what im saying is that a lot of people that this is going to reach based on kanyes unique platform of influence (our youth) ARE uneducated on the matter so if this is the only info they are getting on the case and hes jumbling the fucking message and information it will do more harm than good.

Well he’s one of the first big time black culture influencers that has a differing opinion. We live in a celebrity driven world unfortunately.

[boof]

see that's my other issue.......kanye did not start the convo ....not among people actually educated on the topic

...and im not saying anyone in this conversation isn't educated on the topic......what im saying is that a lot of people that this is going to reach based on kanyes unique platform of influence (our youth) ARE uneducated on the matter so if this is the only info they are getting on the case and hes jumbling the fucking message and information it will do more harm than good.

but as you just pointed out this conversation didn't exist to a lot of the people it's reaching and i think the whole country is in agreeance that he doesn't really know what he's talking about so doesn't that create a unique opportunity to 1, correct kanye at a specific time where he seems to be receptive to all opposing views which can 2, use his platform to teach it correctly?

[Ghost1]

fingers crossed

[Aero]

Boof, repped.

[Amen]

Kanye a faggot who got lipo because he doesn't want to be made fun of.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Lmao vintage Amen.

You don’t wanna be an expert today?

[Inno]

Amens a fagot without Lipo and he’s still made fun of

[~RustyGunZ~]

Boof, repped.

As opposed to quoting the long post and making the bread harder to scroll through I’ll just quote this as a head nod

[boof]

Yea I mean it’s not like master plan lol but both parties obviously want black support. And both should have it. Somehow democrats have landed the majority of minority’s just by saying conservatives are racist and black people just being like yea alright fuck them then. Is it not concerning that Democrats run on free shit for black people and tell them how bad they have it and black folks run to them. And republicans generally run on jobs for black people (African American unemployment at an all time low) and nobody cares lol but it is all about the black vote. That’s not debated is it? On both sides.

yes but just because dem's use the realities of the system for talking points as an ingenuine way to ensure the black vote doesn't mean the realities of the system are any less real

[Amen]

Amens a fagot without Lipo and he’s still made fun of

Negative, pussy.

Why the fuck does it matter what Knaye West says or thinks?

You all arguing about it as of you truly understand what he meant. As if you are him. Shut the fuck up, you mother fuckers are what is wrong with society.

Taking a fucking hip hop artists statements to heart.

Fuck that nigga...

[Amen]

Lmao vintage Amen.

You don’t wanna be an expert today?

Honestly don't care for him nor give a fuck about his thoughts and logic, bro.

He will still be him and rich and I will still be me and some what rich - just not on his level of money lol at the end of the day.

[Clout]

Kanye is trash now so he has to do something for attention he has a whore to feed and a daughter to look after Aero

[uh-oh]

hey watsup guys. i see things have spiraled a bit since i was bored posting on my lunch break.

seemed to me to say that you pretty clearly agreed with uh oh............and uh is clearly saying that there is no longer an excuse for black poverty and that they are responsible for their own low class status.........which is exactly what diode is saying that you said.

im not saying that at all, i don't think metts is saying that either. thats the problem with this whole discussion, is its all or nothing.

im assuming that diode and booth are coming from the vantage point of blacks are helpless victims, the same way they are assuming that i think they have 0 obstacles out of poverty.

both sides are much more to the center of those extremes, its just where you lean. metts probably leans a little more to the right than me but im leaning that way as well.

i think the narrative of black people in 2018 being victims, that the deck is completely stacked against them, hurts them more than helps them. there is absolutely opportunity (again in saying that i guess i have to say not as much opportunity as the average white person, even though i figured its implied but i guess not), and a whole lot less of it in generationally run democratic shitholes like detroit/philly/baltimore though because there are too many people for the opportunities that are there, and the systematic roadblocks from the past contributed to the situation now. in regards to where black people could actually move in and etc.

and it is not a coincidence that the people that disagree usually live the type of life uh-oh lives(staying in one concentrated area, no extended experiences trying to understand minority perspectives). a lot of it is socioeconomic, which if you remove empathy and understanding you can attempt to blame on individuals, which is what apparently gets uh-oh's dick hard at all times.

and this line of thinking is just nonsense. that might apply to your buddies back home, i don't know what madison is like, but to pretend i've lived a sheltered upbringing not exposed to minorities is a ridiculous reach to try and make sense of someone with a differing viewpoint

if anything me an metts are much closer to the actual people you guys want to label victims. i hate having to say it because it makes me feel like a fucking nerd on some "i have black friends" tip but i mean cmonson. i grew up in the hell holes and went to the black schools and all that shit. ive only recently got myself out of it and into that actual suburb life. everyone i've been around my entire life are these minorities i apparently don't know about.

again the whole thing spirals out of control because we argue in absolutes

i've stated before in these threads that the average black person doesn't have it as easy as the average white person, and all i ever say is to pretend that they are helpless victims is a giant disservice to themselves, espescially when they regurgitate those talking points as the reason they are downtrodden. its an excuse to be a victim.

its harder for a fat guy to climb a rope, but to pretend that he can't work to get himself in a position to climb it, is retarded. its also retarded to pretend there is a simple answer or fix. but telling him its the ropes fault helps no one. them skinny fuckers just shimmy up the rope.

[boof]

^ i fuck with most of that. reasonable response imo

i didnt mean you were sheltered though, madison is way whiter than where you have been in ohio, i just meant that you've only experienced minorities in a small concentrated area, and i am assuming you probably have never really had in depth conversations with minorities about their perspective on the differences growing up a minority. i assume you had minority acquaintances that you got fucked up with or bullshitted with at school or work, but mostly surface level & never "share with me the negative experiences you've gone through that are solely race based because i would like to understand"

[boof]

but also i said what i said under the impression bags had as well. it is usually how you come off. glad to know that is not what you believe.

[Aero]

^ i fuck with most of that. reasonable response imo

i didnt mean you were sheltered though, madison is way whiter than where you have been in ohio, i just meant that you've only experienced minorities in a small concentrated area, and i am assuming you probably have never really had in depth conversations with minorities about their perspective on the differences growing up a minority. i assume you had minority acquaintances that you got fucked up with or bullshitted with at school or work, but mostly surface level & never "share with me the negative experiences you've gone through that are solely race based because i would like to understand"

You live in Madison?

[boof]

madison ohio

is where i grew up

super small town east of cleveland

[Mediocrity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21gbLE2USJ0

[Elemental P]

Kanye is hot dumpster sauce in music and as a fucking human being.

[Aero]

Chill Phill what are your thoughts?