Is there actual logic behind apple vs pc/android

[uh-oh]

Without being a person who sides with one or the other can it be explained logically?

Ive messed with macs and pcs, never had an iphone tho but there is the misconception of it being because its a price thing which never made sense to me, but i usually always get the stupid expensive android. It was never a non conformist type thing tho on some fuck iphones it was just at the time the note had a giant screen, so i stayed with those a few generations. Then i got the LG because it came with a free 49" tv and a google home lol

But word is it just preference or is there actual specs and shit that make one better

Cuz i look at like 2800 dollar macs that are 2 generations behind in everything but somehow theyre perceived as workhorses that shit on everything. But lets say its all equal, like you build a pc for 1300 with the same everything

Is the apple product better or is it just marketing and our desire to be part of a team

[uh-oh]

Basically asking cuz im probably going to get an iphone so i can get the laughable app

and im thinking of building a dedicated studio outside of my gaming/office so im not distracted when i want to make beats

And that was like the go to as a kid in high school on some oh your building a studio you need a mac mannnn

So is there truth to it or what

[Finnydot]

There is truth with the music, but not the phones.

[Twodrop]

once I found out apple doesn't support fruity loops... I went full pc/android.

As far as the OS goes, Android >

[~RustyGunZ~]

Big and little differences. Mostly in exclusive hardware and software.

Like Macs are great because you can have an iPad and iPhone and HomePod all linked together and be part of the “apple ecosystem”. iMessage throughout them etc.

If you do music or video editing macs have logic and Final Cut Pro.

But they’re overpriced for those features. Technically speaking they aren’t that much more expensive hardware wise they just use hardware a lot of people don’t justify. A big piece of their prices involve their 5k displays.

PC and android give you the ability to create your own ecosystem but there isn’t a combination that works as fluid as having all apple products. You have a wide price range and style choices. Can custom build. Semi open source. It’s not any better permfocmance wise just a bit more free. But like with most things freedom means little hiccups and rough edges.

People buying apple products to seem elitist has been dead (or at least in the eye of an outsider) for a long time lol. Aside from the X the flagships have all been in line with Samsung/Google/LG and are all pretty similar.

I use an iPhone X and OG Pixel. My PC has 3 480gb SSDs that house a hackintosh build, windows 10 and Linux. I use everything and like what they offer.

There’s more but that’s as brief as I felt I could be

[Twodrop]

Big and little differences. Mostly in exclusive hardware and software.

Like Macs are great because you can have an iPad and iPhone and HomePod all linked together and be part of the “apple ecosystem”. iMessage throughout them etc.

If you do music or video editing macs have logic and Final Cut Pro.

But they’re overpriced for those features. Technically speaking they aren’t that much more expensive hardware wise they just use hardware a lot of people don’t justify. A big piece of their prices involve their 5k displays.

PC and android give you the ability to create your own ecosystem but there isn’t a combination that works as fluid as having all apple products. You have a wide price range and style choices. Can custom build. Semi open source. It’s not any better permfocmance wise just a bit more free. But like with most things freedom means little hiccups and rough edges.

People buying apple products to seem elitist has been dead (or at least in the eye of an outsider) for a long time lol. Aside from the X the flagships have all been in line with Samsung/Google/LG and are all pretty similar.

I use an iPhone X and OG Pixel. My PC has 3 480gb SSDs that house a hackintosh build, windows 10 and Linux. I use everything and like what they offer.

There’s more but that’s as brief as I felt I could be

what do u do for work?

[WRATH]

You buy a mac for business purposes. You buy PC for everything else.

[Exis]

^^Word...

[~RustyGunZ~]

You buy a mac for business purposes. You buy PC for everything else.

^^Word...

Inaccurate to great depths lmao

You buy a Mac for work at a company that uses Final Cut or Logic/develops for iOS

Or if you just like MacBooks. But there is no reason other than personal preference to buy a Mac other than those reasons.

Actual computer scientist (coders/developers yada yada) mostly work with Linux. Some will use MacBooks since it is Unix based but 99% of people I know that work in tech use a generic branded laptop with a linux distro

[Twodrop]

Inaccurate to great depths lmao

You buy a Mac for work at a company that uses Final Cut or Logic/develops for iOS

Or if you just like MacBooks. But there is no reason other than personal preference to buy a Mac other than those reasons.

Actual computer scientist (coders/developers yada yada) mostly work with Linux. Some will use MacBooks since it is Unix based but 99% of people I know that work in tech use a generic branded laptop with a linux distro

Can I bounce my new C++ algorithm off u?

[Incredible]

Well and I believe MACs are known for being much harder to hack into. Feel like its a security thing for a lot of people. But also what finny said about the music side the quality/programs/again security being better on the mac. Only thing I really know.

[~RustyGunZ~]

what do u do for work?

I quit my job to make video games

I do freelance python and ruby coding for ez money every once in awhile when I want to buy a new toy/get myself in random debt

[Twodrop]

I quit my job to make video games

I do freelance python and ruby coding for ez money every once in awhile when I want to buy a new toy/get myself in random debt

I strive to be there one day

You fuk w/ Steam games? What type of games are you coding?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Well and I believe MACs are known for being much harder to hack into. Feel like its a security thing for a lot of people. But also what finny said about the music side the quality/programs/again security being better on the mac. Only thing I really know.

Common misconception. It's not more difficult to break, people just don't try to break MacOS usually. Most "hacking" is just people reusing public code to get access to peoples computers through spam/torrents. There is no magic code that would be effective on a PC and Mac, so since the vast majority of computer users are on Windows, those "hackers" use code that works with Windows.

On top of usage, the people that DO use MacOS usually can afford pretty much any music/software they want and are not the type to get viruses anyway

[~RustyGunZ~]

I strive to be there one day

You fuk w/ Steam games? What type of games are you coding?

I use Steam to play games

I code C# in Unity for game dev. I'm working on a little mobile game myself, and am doing a 2D top down civ/rpg with a friend and some other outsiders here and there.

It's not for everyone, but pretty much if you can get over the hurdle of learning moderate coding you will snowball into more complicated stuff. A looott of people fall on their faces thinking coding is easy and a nice new way to make lots of money.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Can I bounce my new C++ algorithm off u?

What's it for?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Basically asking cuz im probably going to get an iphone so i can get the laughable app

and im thinking of building a dedicated studio outside of my gaming/office so im not distracted when i want to make beats

And that was like the go to as a kid in high school on some oh your building a studio you need a mac mannnn

So is there truth to it or what

Do you want to use Logic or Adobe software?

If not, it is not worth the money IMO. A lot of music heads would probably disagree, but a lot of them don't understand the tech and use Dr Dre headphones soyaknowman

[Twodrop]

What's it for?

I was thinking of something clever to say,

but I struggle Alphabetizing arrays...

My bro just got his Bach in comp science from UCI(cali)

...he tries to tell me about C#... goes over my head.

[~RustyGunZ~]

I was thinking of something clever to say,

but I struggle Alphabetizing arrays...

My bro just got his Bach in comp science from UCI(cali)

...he tries to tell me about C#... goes over my head.

so you wanna take an array and turn it into an alphabetized list basically? is that your algorithm or something you're struggling with within it?

[Twodrop]

No, that was a final project for a C++ class I took at community college.

Aced it.

[~RustyGunZ~]

I’m confused, was it supposed to be a joke?

[Twodrop]

I’m confused, was it supposed to be a joke?

Just letting u know where I'm at coding wise...

Haven't taken it serious enough to even talk w/ u about it.

Give me a year.

[Twodrop]

I'm sure there are many people here, that have an interest in what you're doing...

Can you tell us/me why python and ruby are so current? Why C# is what u use for gaming? I get these are deep concepts, but maybe just brush over them for the laymen that may be interested

[~RustyGunZ~]

I'm sure there are many people here, that have an interest in what you're doing...

Can you tell us/me why python and ruby are so current? Why C# is what u use for gaming? I get these are deep concepts, but maybe just brush over them for the laymen that may be interested

I wouldn’t say they’re more current than other languages, they just show up in easy money situations for me. Python is used in a lot of business cases and Ruby is equally simple and for some reason wicked popular with web apps so a lot of tech wannabes get freelance help with ruby. Basically those two cover simple projects for old and young clientele. I know java and SQL too pretty well but those jobs are usually more involved than I want to be.


I use C# because I like unity. Otherwise I’d prefer Java. They’re basically the same though.

[WRATH]

Inaccurate to great depths lmao

You buy a Mac for work at a company that uses Final Cut or Logic/develops for iOS

Or if you just like MacBooks. But there is no reason other than personal preference to buy a Mac other than those reasons.

Actual computer scientist (coders/developers yada yada) mostly work with Linux. Some will use MacBooks since it is Unix based but 99% of people I know that work in tech use a generic branded laptop with a linux distro

Well we weren't talking about linux nerd

[WRATH]

Do you want to use Logic or Adobe software?

If not, it is not worth the money IMO. A lot of music heads would probably disagree, but a lot of them don't understand the tech and use Dr Dre headphones soyaknowman

I use logic and am buying Adobe here coming up. I use dre headphones too lucky guess. They're nice but they aren't good for working. Mac is good for casual serious work I wouldn't Download a bunch of bullshit on it.

[Twodrop]

BOSE the goat

[Fart]

As a user of all 3 platforms, iPhone is the best OS on a mobile. Android phones never last me more than 12-18 months (no physical damage done) I’ve had iPhone for almost 3 years now and it still runs like day 1
Mac is great for any media editing
PC stomps mac in everything else including price

[uh-oh]

so basically the mac isn't magically better because it costs more?

i know its the industry standard or was for video/audio editing, i just didn't understand why considering the specs are limited to what generation of mac you are buying. like video editing or rendering work has to be faster on pc when you can load in tons of top of the line graphics cards for instance, and have the best processor available. same with audio but basically near limitless ram and shit

i guess its more so for compatibilty with working/collaborating. if everyone is using mac programs you need a mac to access the programs/saves and shit

i'll probably just end up building another monstrous pc and use it as my new gaming pc and keep this one for music since its still more than capable.

i remember discussing how audio production can tax the system with people on here and them thinking i went way overkill with my i7 and 32gb of ram, meanwhile its not hard to redline this system by overdoing it with plugins and voices.

i think alot of these conversations get muddied with hearsay instead of experience. like people hear mac is better for production efforts and just assume there is a reason

but if its just because macs have logic that makes 0 sense since its just a random DAW. no better than any other DAW, and the macs system specs can be great but not upgradeable and not better than anything you can get for pc

but word i'll probably get an iphone though, android has been perfect for me, i still have my note 2 which i use now to listen to podcasts at work and i tether it to my pc at home for internet. leeching my neighbors high speed wifi. but yea i just got an lg g6 phone, phone. which i've encountered no problems with. got like 4 months left on my 2 year thing when that runs out i'll probably get whatever the best iphone is at that time. the only downside i've found having android these years is literally the one app i want neglecting to release itself for android.

[Chill Phil]

It's just another thing that helps perpetuate what we've been brainwashed to believe ever since before we could talk.

Good vs. evil, Democrat vs. Republicans, coke vs. Pepsi, red vs. blue, cat people vs. Dog people, Mac vs. pc, Trump vs. Hillary, ranch vs Bleu cheese, hotdog vs. hamburger, grilled vs. fried, white vs. black, etc.

It's a a contribution to the illusion that you only have two choices. If you only have two choices, the one person that owns it all will get your money regardless. We've been getting farmed our whole lives.

[Amen]

Apple > Android.

Just heard Apple got that theft of software over turned finally. It was actually Samsung who stole technology from Apple then tried to accuse Apple of stealing their technology LOL.

Now Samsung must pay apple a few billion.

[Mediocrity]

Everything is what you make it. Apple/android/pc

[~RustyGunZ~]

Well we weren't talking about linux nerd

You were talking about something you don’t know about. Faggot.

[~RustyGunZ~]

so basically the mac isn't magically better because it costs more?

i know its the industry standard or was for video/audio editing, i just didn't understand why considering the specs are limited to what generation of mac you are buying. like video editing or rendering work has to be faster on pc when you can load in tons of top of the line graphics cards for instance, and have the best processor available. same with audio but basically near limitless ram and shit

i guess its more so for compatibilty with working/collaborating. if everyone is using mac programs you need a mac to access the programs/saves and shit

i'll probably just end up building another monstrous pc and use it as my new gaming pc and keep this one for music since its still more than capable.

i remember discussing how audio production can tax the system with people on here and them thinking i went way overkill with my i7 and 32gb of ram, meanwhile its not hard to redline this system by overdoing it with plugins and voices.

i think alot of these conversations get muddied with hearsay instead of experience. like people hear mac is better for production efforts and just assume there is a reason

but if its just because macs have logic that makes 0 sense since its just a random DAW. no better than any other DAW, and the macs system specs can be great but not upgradeable and not better than anything you can get for pc

but word i'll probably get an iphone though, android has been perfect for me, i still have my note 2 which i use now to listen to podcasts at work and i tether it to my pc at home for internet. leeching my neighbors high speed wifi. but yea i just got an lg g6 phone, phone. which i've encountered no problems with. got like 4 months left on my 2 year thing when that runs out i'll probably get whatever the best iphone is at that time. the only downside i've found having android these years is literally the one app i want neglecting to release itself for android.

Lg sucks I had a g6 for about 2 months

I mainly use my X and just test android stuff when I need to on the pixel. It’s an awesome phone and at this point they’re all the same and apple just feels so well integrated. Not really interested in being over the top customizable anymore, but we’ll see if I’ll get the itch for it again

Aren’t you on a ddr3 based system? Upgrade to 64. If you’re gonna use it for music you could downgrade the 980ti too sell it and buy ram and ssds for music on that machine

[Amen]

You were talking about something you don’t know about. Faggot.

How's the iPhone X?

Love mine.

[~RustyGunZ~]

How's the iPhone X?

Love mine.

Best phone experience I’ve had since my first HTC when Android was in its finest position for the time

[Amen]

Word.. I've always been apple since apple iPhones were a thing and this one by far is the best.

[~RustyGunZ~]

I had the Og through the 4s then switched til now


Both are dope

[Amen]

Nextel, blackberry then iPhones and have been with iPhones since LOL.

Tried to switch from the OG 3gs to an Android Motorola and with in 24 hours went back to iPhone LOL.

I really dislike the Android OS.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Nextel, blackberry then iPhones and have been with iPhones since LOL.

Tried to switch from the OG 3gs to an Android Motorola and with in 24 hours went back to iPhone LOL.

I really dislike the Android OS.

Android is like 5% similar to what it was then lol

It’s a technically better system than iOS. iOS just has a better ecosystem attached to it. More universal since they’re all the same, where with android the hardware companies through in bloatware and shitty add one and replaces stock apps with theirs.

I’ll switch back most likely for the Pixel 3, just wanted a new experience. Same old same old got boring

[Amen]

Google phone?

[uh-oh]

Lg sucks I had a g6 for about 2 months

I mainly use my X and just test android stuff when I need to on the pixel. It’s an awesome phone and at this point they’re all the same and apple just feels so well integrated. Not really interested in being over the top customizable anymore, but we’ll see if I’ll get the itch for it again

Aren’t you on a ddr3 based system? Upgrade to 64. If you’re gonna use it for music you could downgrade the 980ti too sell it and buy ram and ssds for music on that machine

What problems did you have with the g6? I havent run into any but im not a phone guy so unless its something obvious it probably wouldnt affect me

[WRATH]

As a user of all 3 platforms, iPhone is the best OS on a mobile. Android phones never last me more than 12-18 months (no physical damage done) I’ve had iPhone for almost 3 years now and it still runs like day 1
Mac is great for any media editing
PC stomps mac in everything else including price

I upgrade my android about every 3 years on average and I'm offended by this. Aside from various black market downloads and a ton of apps running simultaneously, its fully customizable. Its basically PC idk maybe you had a weird off brand phone cause I wont hear any talk of a galaxy not being trustworthy

[~RustyGunZ~]

What problems did you have with the g6? I havent run into any but im not a phone guy so unless its something obvious it probably wouldnt affect me

GPS went in and out while driving in populated areas, would think I was 50 yards away from where I was. Screen burn problems if I was on YouTube. Bad UI. Fast charge was finicky.

[Amen]

I upgrade my android about every 3 years on average and I'm offended by this. Aside from various black market downloads and a ton of apps running simultaneously, its fully customizable. Its basically PC idk maybe you had a weird off brand phone cause I wont hear any talk of a galaxy not being trustworthy

Other then them accusing apple of ripping their technology when they were the ones ripping apples technology, eh? LOL

Samsung is trash.

Apple > Samsung.

[Inno]

Man I’m sticking with Apple cuz I can’t go back to not having Apple Music.

It’s jusy so much easier, wish they had tool tho

[Amen]

Man I’m sticking with Apple cuz I can’t go back to not having Apple Music.

It’s jusy so much easier, wish they had tool tho

ON some real shit, Apple music is pissing me off. It's very rare but now this is the 2nd time I've been looking for a certain song that I can't find.

Never mind, finally found it. So only 1 time, it's occurred out of the thousands of tracks lol.

[WRATH]

Other then them accusing apple of ripping their technology when they were the ones ripping apples technology, eh? LOL

Samsung is trash.

Apple > Samsung.

Imagine having all that apple technology, fully unlocked, without compromising your warranty. The only argument for apple is the camera after that it's a landslide victory for samsung.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Samsung is awful with their bloatware. Never had as much as I did on my S6. Also their tech is trash tbh, but hardware wise they have great phones. Just need to root them and go as stock as possible.

[Diode]

Samsung is awful with their bloatware. Never had as much as I did on my S6. Also their tech is trash tbh, but hardware wise they have great phones. Just need to root them and go as stock as possible.

touchwiz eliminated the majority of the bloat in the s7.

lol @ their "tech" is trash. they invented amoled screens and mainstream adoption of 21:9 format ffs.

don't bother responding. i don't feel like doing anything but laughing at you today.

[~RustyGunZ~]

touchwiz eliminated the majority of the bloat in the s7.

lol @ their "tech" is trash. they invented amoled screens and mainstream adoption of 21:9 format ffs.

don't bother responding. i don't feel like doing anything but laughing at you today.

I just said hardware good, software bad

You respond by saying NO THEIR HARDWARE IS NOT BAD

Why do you go so out of your way trying to start an argument with me?

Sorry you must also have a degree in electrical engineering and computer science so you know everything about this subject to. Stop being such a faggot.

[~RustyGunZ~]

That is good they killed some bloatware with the newer phones though

[~RustyGunZ~]

Diode you’re a pussy and you’re not half as amazing or intelligent as you think you are. Lmao @ closing threads like a bitch
Warthog for advice on how diode should proceed in using admin powers to ignore bulliez

[uh-oh]

GPS went in and out while driving in populated areas, would think I was 50 yards away from where I was. Screen burn problems if I was on YouTube. Bad UI. Fast charge was finicky.

word you mightve just had a shittilly made one or something. that said i've only used the gps/google maps a few times

my phone usage mainly consists of using it as a phone to call and text obviously lol, but the majority of the time i'm just watching youtube vids or checking twitter/news on my lunchbreak, so its been solid for me. since its waterproof too i throw on podcasts and shit while i shower and shave my noggin as well

i've never had a problem with any phone though, im assuming i've just been lucky i guess, i thought most android hate came from people like amen who have 0 experience with them

[~RustyGunZ~]

word you mightve just had a shittilly made one or something. that said i've only used the gps/google maps a few times

my phone usage mainly consists of using it as a phone to call and text obviously lol, but the majority of the time i'm just watching youtube vids or checking twitter/news on my lunchbreak, so its been solid for me. since its waterproof too i throw on podcasts and shit while i shower and shave my noggin as well

i've never had a problem with any phone though, im assuming i've just been lucky i guess, i thought most android hate came from people like amen who have 0 experience with them

Same issues my sister had with the g5 so I decided to just stay away from LG

[Amen]

So you beef with Diode in another thread and still have to type my name bro?

[Fart]

Imagine having all that apple technology, fully unlocked, without compromising your warranty. The only argument for apple is the camera after that it's a landslide victory for samsung.

Lol shitty third party adware apps on android though. And the 'only' argument for Apple is it has an edge on everything across the board as far as components, some marginal, but a landlside in the chipset/CPU. Samsung/Google literally have to add 2-3GB more of RAM to come close to the benchmarks of even an iPhone 7+..

[Elemental P]

Without being a person who sides with one or the other can it be explained logically?

Ive messed with macs and pcs, never had an iphone tho but there is the misconception of it being because its a price thing which never made sense to me, but i usually always get the stupid expensive android. It was never a non conformist type thing tho on some fuck iphones it was just at the time the note had a giant screen, so i stayed with those a few generations. Then i got the LG because it came with a free 49" tv and a google home lol

But word is it just preference or is there actual specs and shit that make one better

Cuz i look at like 2800 dollar macs that are 2 generations behind in everything but somehow theyre perceived as workhorses that shit on everything. But lets say its all equal, like you build a pc for 1300 with the same everything

Is the apple product better or is it just marketing and our desire to be part of a team

I do like a Mac, used one at work every day to separate graphic art work design which just means j had to fix, change/alter graphics etc and it definitely seemed a lot more easier and faster on a Mac as opposed to my PC but my PC isn't top end any more either. But I hear a lot of people say they like Macs over PC for audio engineering and graphic work.