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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FESviczzpiY&t=1s
Sad shit.
For those with children, hug them, love them, appreciate them. With in a blink of an eye - they can be taken. I have a teenager and this shit right here is disturbing.
dead man
06-26-2018, 01:29 PM
Sickening truly
And in a public business in fucking NYC. How many witnesses didn't do nothing but pull their phone out? God damn. That's some Kitty Genovese shit.
See why we need immigration.
All dem niggas brown
Destroyer
06-26-2018, 01:37 PM
I mean yeah that’s fucked up, but no way that shit was random
I mean yeah that’s fucked up, but no way that shit was random
Mistaken identity. Was random. KId looked like the kid they had a hit out for.
Apparently the kid they were looking for had filmed the sister to one of the gang members getting fucked and posted it on social media. This innocent kid looked like the kid in the video and they attacked him. Very sad.
Innovator - all Dominican. Yet people hate mexicans lol... Mind blowing.
Ghost1
06-26-2018, 01:46 PM
its still not random tho.....like they weren't just out wildin without a purpose is the point
unjustifiable regardless
True, in that sense - yea it wasn't random. Just random for the victim, I guess.
The fact that he ran to the hospital while his jugular was leaking trying to get help and screaming for help - while 2 nurses walked by in their scrubs still is sickening.
All kinds of videos surfacing on it. A video shows the entire thing from when they walked up to him, punched him - knocking him down to the ground and dragging him out so all could run up and stab and chop him with a machete.
Ghost1
06-26-2018, 01:49 PM
agree its fucked
Destroyer
06-26-2018, 01:50 PM
It’s def fucked
Nobody helps
This is America
Don’t catch you slippin nah
Kawn Flixx
06-26-2018, 01:58 PM
old.
Ghost1
06-26-2018, 02:32 PM
dead man on my life I just started reading the 2nd chapter in this psych textbook for my class this week and it opens up w Kitty Genovese
synchronicity on tap
Truly sad and terrible. And that’s not America that’s NYC. All those gang members will be caught and brought to justice smh if they really killed the wrong guy.
Truly sad and terrible. And that’s not America that’s NYC. All those gang members will be caught and brought to justice smh if they really killed the wrong guy.
Not if, they did kill the wrong KID.
veritas
06-26-2018, 03:11 PM
dead man on my life I just started reading the 2nd chapter in this psych textbook for my class this week and it opens up w Kitty Genovese
synchronicity on tap
Are you reading the social animal?
Where it uses kitty as the anecdote for the social bystander effect?
Destroyer
06-26-2018, 03:15 PM
Is that shit real?
I don’t believe in it
Doesn’t the social bystander effect directly contradict the idea of the Good Samaritan veritas?
Ghost1
06-26-2018, 03:17 PM
I have read the social animal its one of my favorites.
the text book Im currently reading though is Understanding Psychology 13e
Ghost1
06-26-2018, 03:21 PM
but word I mean they've done several social experiments that ultimately determined that the larger the crowd of bystanders the lower the likelihood of someone intervening because they assume someone else will...........if its just one person or two its more likely they will help because they feel like no one else can
veritas
06-26-2018, 03:23 PM
Is that shit real?
I don’t believe in it
Doesn’t the social bystander effect directly contradict the idea of the Good Samaritan veritas?
Great question Jude.
The Good Samaritan needs two checkboxes to overwhelm the social bystander effect.
1. Not a large number of people (I.e. just one Good Samaritan. I.e. this man needs my help there is no one else who can help)
2. The feeling of competence (I.e. this man appears to be having a heart attack and I am nurse I can help him versus this man is having a medical issue and I don’t know what to do I hope someone else on this subway is a doctor)
Great question
Yovthey reported the gang leader sent an apology to the family
Surreal
Allen Knight
06-26-2018, 08:00 PM
Shit yah'll just hearing about this?
uh-oh
06-26-2018, 08:11 PM
more people need worldstar in their daily rotation
Shit yah'll just hearing about this?
Nah, knew about it since the morning after. Have family that live on that block. Just watching how it transpires, they now have 8 in custody. According to video footage, there was about 12 to 15 involved.
For Battling
06-26-2018, 08:16 PM
He was a police explorer
Word.
I feel that's one of the reasons why they went so hard and found 6 of the 12.
Shits crazy. Poor kid, man. To me, that's why self defense whether MMA or Boxing is so important. He couldve at least tried to defend himself.
For Battling
06-26-2018, 10:55 PM
Word.
I feel that's one of the reasons why they went so hard and found 6 of the 12.
Shits crazy. Poor kid, man. To me, that's why self defense whether MMA or Boxing is so important. He couldve at least tried to defend himself.
“He could have at least tried to defend himself?”
You’re so fucking ignorant
You don’t think he tried? Against 5 guys with deadly weapons and all he had was tooth and nail? I’ll spit on your fuckin grave when you croak
“He could have at least tried to defend himself?”
You’re so fucking ignorant
You don’t think he tried? Against 5 guys with deadly weapons and all he had was tooth and nail? I’ll spit on your fuckin grave when you croak
No he didn’t, moron. Did you not watch the video? He was knocked down to the ground and dragged out screaming for help. Not once did he try and defend himself. He was helpless in the situation.
And keep wishing death on me, you piece of shit. Karmas a bitch and I’m sure you’ll get it before I do. Careful what you wish for.
So if he’s helpless how could he defend himself?
OHH YEAH CRY FOR HELP HOLY SHIT!!!!
Word.
I feel that's one of the reasons why they went so hard and found 6 of the 12.
Shits crazy. Poor kid, man. To me, that's why self defense whether MMA or Boxing is so important. He couldve at least tried to defend himself.
This the dumbest shit ever smh
So if he’s helpless how could he defend himself?
OHH YEAH CRY FOR HELP HOLY SHIT!!!!
They didn't do shit in the store. It was till he was dragged out of the store THEN stabbed. Had he fought back in the store, we don't know what could have happened. Maybe the Owners and associate would have tried to help him? There's a chance he could still be alive HAD HE FOUGHT back. He didn't which is why he's dead.
Even his mother stated in an interview, he's never been in a fist fight in his 14 years.
This the dumbest shit ever smh
Is it really?
SO you mean to tell me, if you were in those shoes you wouldn't try and fight back regardless? You would just left niggas knock you to the ground and DRAG you out of an establishment?
Fuck that... I would have did what I could to remain inside and fought back as hard as I possibly could. Not letting no mother fucker take me down and drag my ass around.
That's just me tho.
Diode veritas both of you train in a combat sport.
Are you guys letting ANYONE drag you out of an establishment where outside the unknown awaits? Or are you defending yourself or at least going to try too?
That's the only point I was trying to make. No one knows what would have happened, we can only speculate and assume. But the chances of him being alive are just a tad bit greater had he been trained in some form of self defense. He wasn't. And his mother confirmed it, like I stated above when she made the comment about him being a super good kid always happy never ever being in an altercation in his 14 years of living.
The shit is just sad man.
uh-oh
06-27-2018, 07:58 AM
amen we get the sentiment you just put it out there ignorantly. like boxing or mma training would have helped a 14 year old against 8 dudes or however many it was. i also wouldve fought back. but it wouldn't have changed the outcome
i also dislike the dialog surrounding the owners inaction. i guess its been touched on with your guys' pseudo psychology stuff, but the majority of outrage i have seen regarding the dude online has been from instagram ho's and keyboard hooligans. its super easy to claim what you wouldve or shouldve done until you are in those shoes. fight/flight/freeze type shit. i don't fault him, i mean did he lock him out at the end though? again when he locked him out i don't know if he knew he was getting stabbed to death, we can say that when the threat was over he couldve assisted with some type of towels and shit but it happened quick.
shits a tragedy. i just know from experience the mind does goofy shit. from my boys pops getting boxcuttered from nipple to hip, to my boys baby almost choking to death on a ring, to random bar brawls in my early adulthood, my mind processes panic in strange ways. i kind of just shut down mentally and become an observer. when there is legit terror in someones face you didnt prepare for those instances so you can't comment on what someone should do while watching from the comfort of your home.
but word if im fighting its more instinct but when its others, adrenaline is completely different. if im involved its hazy as shit going off instinct, but if its others i get an eerie clarity but an inability of action until my hand is forced basically.
Only 2 dudes in the store with him. The others were outside by their cars waiting. That's why you see them swarm in once he's dragged outside of the store.
Jesus man.
Kids dont think about the shit they doing and this happens. Like wtf do they expect the outcome to be here weather it was the right kid or not. There wanted now. Little bit of scratch for the hit wasnt gonna keep yhem from doing life when they get hemmed up for this. Smh. Sad man.
Just watched video. Jesus man. R.i.p young man. Sry this happened to you.
Only 2 dudes in the store with him. The others were outside by their cars waiting. That's why you see them swarm in once he's dragged outside of the store.
Amen
You do know saying what u WOULD do and reacting in a high stress life and death situation is greatly different right
Ever been in a life or death situation ?
Amen
You do know saying what u WOULD do and reacting in a high stress life and death situation is greatly different right
Ever been in a life or death situation ?
I've been jumped before. I know the feeling. And it was over a bitch as well, when I was a teenager.
Consider that life or death? IDK because I defended myself with just enough time for family to come down from inside the building and help. But some people are just a tad bit more street wise. Especially being brought up in rough neighborhoods. He was a good kid, so those instincts to defend himself weren't natural instinct, as he was more focused on screaming for help.
Any altercation could be considered life or death, as you know. You can't trust anyone because you don't know what they are capable of.
It came out the wrong way, I was just trying to speculate on the situation... I think the dudes are fucking cowards. Kid was 14. Youngest attacker was 18 and the rest basically in their 20's. He was a fucking kid.
Sad shit.
This nigga retarded. I don’t give a fuck if shorty knew moves from Bruce Lee himself.
Theirs 8 niggas with knives, fuck ur mma and boxing
Are you reading anything I'm typing?
There weren't 8 people inside the store with knives.
There was 2 INSIDE the store. I"m not saying he would have fended them off - but maybe it would have helped. Maybe him trying to defend himself against the 2 would have triggered the owner and associate to help. IDK. We will never know. What I do know is, he wasn't stabbed TILL AFTER being dragged outside. THAT is when the stabbing began. OUTSIDE. NOT INSIDE. OUTSIDE. It wasn't like 8 dudes were inside the store stabbing him.
1 vs 2 can be managed but 1 vs 8 is different. I understand that.
Ghost1
06-27-2018, 09:22 AM
Uh he looked like he was struggling alot? Are u under the impression he laid down onto the ground and allowed them to drag him out of the store? Lol smh
Destroyer
06-27-2018, 09:26 AM
Did he carry grams outside w/him tho?
Clearly stated he was knocked down to the ground by the 2 that dragged him out.
Amen let’s put it like this. That boy had a better chance using pepper spray than knowing self defense against 2-6 older dudes WITH knives, shit I think I even seen a MACHETE; But I’m not rushing to thread screaming everyone should go buy pepper spray.
What I’m tryna say is, that scenario was plain fucked up from the beginning and not a boxing move or ufc juititsu lui kang spinning power kick gonna change it.
R.I.P that shorty, future cop or not. Shits messed up
This Boggs amen is a fucking idiot.
WHY DIDNT HE KICK THEM BRO
HOW COME HE DIDNT FEFEND THOSE MACHETE SLASHES BRO
HE WOULD OF LIVED IF HE JUST DEFENDED HIMSELF GOODLORD SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT STREETSMART.
Fucking a
Amen let’s put it like this. That boy had a better chance using pepper spray than knowing self defense against 2-6 older dudes WITH knives, shit I think I even seen a MACHETE; But I’m not rushing to thread screaming everyone should go buy pepper spray.
What I’m tryna say is, that scenario was plain fucked up from the beginning and not a boxing move or ufc juititsu lui kang spinning power kick gonna change it.
R.I.P that shorty, future cop or not. Shits messed up
Yea, 2 dudes had machetes outside.
But word. We can agree to disagree then. There's no telling what would have happened so I'm just going to drop it lol.
Innovator - shut the fuck up.
For Battling
06-27-2018, 10:16 AM
Lol what’s the point of even debating over something with amen?
For Battling
06-27-2018, 10:20 AM
R.I.P that shorty, future cop or not. Shits messed up
You just had to throw that in there huh lol
For Battling
06-27-2018, 10:55 AM
Lol
Hey btw I don’t wish deaths upon no1 I was just drunk and your ignorance struck a nerve while I was pissing in ale house bathroom
I've been jumped before. I know the feeling. And it was over a bitch as well, when I was a teenager.
Consider that life or death? IDK because I defended myself with just enough time for family to come down from inside the building and help. But some people are just a tad bit more street wise. Especially being brought up in rough neighborhoods. He was a good kid, so those instincts to defend himself weren't natural instinct, as he was more focused on screaming for help.
Any altercation could be considered life or death, as you know. You can't trust anyone because you don't know what they are capable of.
It came out the wrong way, I was just trying to speculate on the situation... I think the dudes are fucking cowards. Kid was 14. Youngest attacker was 18 and the rest basically in their 20's. He was a fucking kid.
Sad shit.
He grew up in the hood in the Bronx
I assure u his instincts were way better than someone from the suburbs who spent his teenage years on rap forums
Smh
But wait
Amen got jumped once so he’s the resident specialist on street shit
Suburbs, nah. I ASSURE you I didn't grow up in the suburbs.
You're from the bronx now? And not Brooklyn? Oh.
Why even bring up what the kid could’ve done as though he’s somehow responsible for his death? You’re speculating on convenience store footage about how the kid didn’t fight back as though there wasn’t a struggle. As though he laid there. He probably was unaware of the danger he was in in the first place since he was innocent. Quit talking shit on what you don’t know man it’s getting ridiculous. You should tell his mom make sure she teaches her other kids ju-jitsu so they can avoid this in the future.
He was aware. He ran in the store looking to hide. The followed him in the store. Was he aware he was going to be killed? probably not. He probably thought they were just going to jump him. But word, very stupid of me to bring up.
Ghost1
06-27-2018, 04:16 PM
vintage amen
Suburbs, nah. I ASSURE you I didn't grow up in the suburbs.
You're from the bronx now? And not Brooklyn? Oh.
Do u wana compare street cred ?
I’m from everywhere cuz I actually do this
big baby
06-27-2018, 06:28 PM
pls compare street cred guys i have money on dis comparisonsin
Where did Amen even grow up ? LOL
Where did Amen even grow up ? LOL
Southside Richmond/Jamaica Queens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-5R9H1kSzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Ikbo5WIv8
I'm just leave these here. I can find a million and one more videos as well depicting trained martial artists, MMA fighters or boxers defending themselves against multiple attackers.
Had potential to change the outcome. But you fucks will argue with me regardless.
But I'm officially dropping that argument now.
For Battling
06-28-2018, 05:12 PM
Word let’s do whatever we can to justify that he’s responsible for his own death
I’d like you to teach your teenage kid some karate chops and put him against a dozen guys with machetes and knives and Let’s see what happens
Oh but he’s the offspring of amen so he’ll be just fine!
Amen
So he should of Hadooked and sonic boomed his way right through those machetes huh?
That guys a fucking idiot for not doing that.
Amen
So he should of Hadooked and sonic boomed his way right through those machetes huh?
That guys a fucking idiot for not doing that.
Again, machetes were OUTSIDE. No weapons were used UNTIL he was dragged OUTSIDE, dumb ass.
But to answer your immature question, he should have defended himself inside, it probably would have motivated the store owner to help as well had he saw the kid striking back. Who knows. He couldn’t help himself so the store owners as well were helpless. I just feel had he been trained IN SOMETHING, he may still be alive today. That’s just my opinion.
Word let’s do whatever we can to justify that he’s responsible for his own death
I’d like you to teach your teenage kid some karate chops and put him against a dozen guys with machetes and knives and Let’s see what happens
Oh but he’s the offspring of amen so he’ll be just fine!
No one said he’s responsible for his own death, fucktard.
For Battling
06-28-2018, 07:56 PM
But you’re saying if he had known tai Keon doe he would be alive today
You ever heard of fight or flight?
What if he knew karate and just never been in that kind of situation where he had to put his techniques to real life use?
You can teach a police cadet all the submissions and takedowns in the world but when they get out on the road you don’t know how they’re gonna react when shit hits the fan.
Just stop talking out of your ass, that’s the problem.
Only read your 1st sentence. He probably would be, again that’s just my opinion on the matter. I originally stated; that’s why I feel kids learning self defense whether MMA or boxing is important. His mother stated he’s never been in an altercation. So his natural instinct was to try and hide.
Had he attempted to fight back from a psychological perspective, it may have motivated the store owner and associate to help. Who knows. Learning self defense doesn’t hurt, is all I’m saying. Has many perks for kids, not just hand to hand combat but also self discipline.
Destroyer
06-28-2018, 08:30 PM
Amen, that store owner likely didn’t want to get macheted either
If that kid was his relative, maybe he would have intervened
Otherwise, no fucking way
Just stfu with ur chuck Norris attitude
Regardless of whether you’re right or not, you don’t fault an innocent victim for not fighting back
He’s dead, asshole
No one is faulting him.
Lol chuck Norris attitude.
You guys are fucking faggots. Clearly I’m speaking to the wrong crowd. I’m sure majority of you don’t even know how to make a proper fist before punching someone.
Destroyer
06-28-2018, 08:33 PM
Well, not all of us grew up as “street smart” as you
Destroyer
06-28-2018, 08:35 PM
You’re dumb as fuck if you think the kid’s reactions influenced what the store owner did or didn’t do
Period.
Destoyer, do you believe Jesus Christ existed?
Destroyer
06-28-2018, 09:01 PM
only because of the somersaults they had to do to make him fit the messiah prophecy
It seems that if he was a complete fabrication, he’d be born in Nazareth, etc.
~RustyGunZ~
06-28-2018, 09:10 PM
No one is faulting him.
Lol chuck Norris attitude.
You guys are fucking faggots. Clearly I’m speaking to the wrong crowd. I’m sure majority of you don’t even know how to make a proper fist before punching someone.
You gotta butter it first
veritas
06-28-2018, 10:21 PM
only because of the somersaults they had to do to make him fit the messiah prophecy
It seems that if he was a complete fabrication, he’d be born in Nazareth, etc.
Micah 5:2
Bethlehem birth prophecy. How could he have chosen where he was born?
12 out of supposedly 17 suspects apprehended for the brutal murder of the 15 year old.
This shit is getting crazy. Motives/stories have changed since the initial 6 being arrested.
Strikta
07-12-2018, 10:32 AM
See why we need immigration.
All dem niggas brown
Lold
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