Luciferian philosophy....

[Elemental P]

So this is something I been reading about and studying (kinda) since I got in to conspiracy theories b.c it's what most of these "elites" worship. And one should know and understand their enemy.

I'm in a dark humor group and the admin of it message me yesterday asking if I was Luciferian b.c I made a comment stating what someone else posted as that. He asked how long I've had this "calling for" and I told him I been looking in to it since my early 20s. He claims to be Luciferian and for those that don't know, it s not the same thing as Satanism. It's based more on knowledge, and how Lucifer was wrongly accused for wanting to help mankind evolve thru hardship and hard work instead of living in Eden as god Wanted...

So has anyone here ever been approached by someone claiming to be one? And for those believers out there in the Christian faith, I think Bags says he Religious, but I'm just curious as to others encounter with this... I don't think it's a calling just curiosity and it's something I'm cautious and weary about looking up

[uh-oh]

its just more jew malarkey

wake up

if you want to be religious and spit in the face of a christian/jew god embrace your peoples old theologies. whatever ethnic background you come from. just be a pagan and sacrifice animals for luck and shit like an adult

[bleak]

Or don't worship anything lol

Worship yourself. Pray to the pantry and the walls you call home.

[Witty]

It's nonsense.

[Elemental P]

its just more jew malarkey

wake up

if you want to be religious and spit in the face of a christian/jew god embrace your peoples old theologies. whatever ethnic background you come from. just be a pagan and sacrifice animals for luck and shit like an adult

Lmao I'm not the sleeping type you must not be familiar with my other posts. Just because I find something interesting doesn't mean I follow it.

But let me ask you this Uhoh... Why were almost all the pioneers of science, math, philosophy etc part of secret societies?
Plato was
Socrates was
And many other. Manly P Hall was a 33rd degree Scottish rite Mason and he sounded the KKK. I suggest you wake up and learn what the enemy believes in. Just because we don't believe does not me it does not affect us.

[uh-oh]

you all sound like you're hiding something

just illuminati shills if you ask me

dig deeper elemental p

[Elemental P]

Or don't worship anything lol

Worship yourself. Pray to the pantry and the walls you call home.

Worshipping yourself is part of the Luciferian philosophy actually... Becoming Christed, as they call it. It's the same philosophy/religion that Sumarians worshipped, the Mesopotamian, the Egyptians, it was just under a different guise back then.

[Destroyer]

veritas to smite this heathen

[Elemental P]

you all sound like you're hiding something

just illuminati shills if you ask me

dig deeper elemental p

I have dug bout as deep as I can without becoming tainted in the process with the resources I have.

And yes, it is just "illuminati shills" but that does not mean it does not exist. Regardless of what we think or believe, this Is what the enemy believes and trust me... They are the enemy. They claim their duty is to cause negative polarity to teach mankind empathy... sounds like a cop out to be a piece of shit IMO

[Elemental P]

veritas to smite this heathen
Lol heathen. So one is a heathen for using their free will to find the truth? Don't be so vain.

[uh-oh]

nothing i said in here was with any note of sincerity but you are indeed serious in this futile pursuit. i shall entertain it.

who is "the enemy" you mention? specifically.

[WRATH]

Anything can be made to sound accurate and believable

[Ghost1]

If u believe in Satan u believe in God....an I got some bad news doggy

[uh-oh]

If u believe in Satan u believe in God....an I got some bad news doggy

obviously satan was a real human who put the real human jesus christ through different trials duh. its in the history book titled the bible

[Elemental P]

At Uh Oh. The people in power are, I'm not going to name everyone b.c I can't, but people like the Roth child are, the Bush's, the higher up bankers etc. At Bags, to be honest, I'm not sure if I believe in it or not that is why I make these posts, that is why I read and try to learn about it.

I want to believe in God, but faith is a gift I yet to receive I guess... I never felt this "holy spirit" as others claim they have. I try to be open minded tho but right now I just go with my instinct. I was reared Catholic too but I never felt God's presence if you will, not yet anyway

[Destroyer]

Lol heathen. So one is a heathen for using their free will to find the truth? Don't be so vain.

I’m just having fun bro
I don’t believe in the good or the bad magical fairies

[Elemental P]

I’m just having fun bro
I don’t believe in the good or the bad magical fairies

My mistake, I'm defensive ATM b.c I don't want people thinking this is some shit I worship or believe. I just like to question and ask other people's opinions so my apologies

[Ghost1]

obviously satan was a real human who put the real human jesus christ through different trials duh. its in the history book titled the bible

Lol going to drive out to shitsville dirt Ohio in about two months once U've crippled urself by eating red meat 9x a day and kick ur stupid fucking head into orbit

[Ghost1]

At Uh Oh. The people in power are, I'm not going to name everyone b.c I can't, but people like the Roth child are, the Bush's, the higher up bankers etc. At Bags, to be honest, I'm not sure if I believe in it or not that is why I make these posts, that is why I read and try to learn about it.

I want to believe in God, but faith is a gift I yet to receive I guess... I never felt this "holy spirit" as others claim they have. I try to be open minded tho but right now I just go with my instinct. I was reared Catholic too but I never felt God's presence if you will, not yet anyway

My point is .........IF u believe in Satan....or Lucifer......it's a packaged deal

[Ghost1]

Im nearly positive Geno claims to be luciferian tho?

[Elemental P]

Im nearly positive Geno claims to be luciferian tho?

I remember u two discussing that he was a Satanist but that's different.
And you're right I agree, if you believe in God or the devil then by default the other is automatically included. It makes no sense to believe in one or not the other

[Ghost1]

God can exist without Satan

Satan cannot exist without god

Read some Augustine if ur in a philosophical mood

[Elemental P]

God can exist without Satan

Satan cannot exist without god

Read some Augustine if ur in a philosophical mood

Now that's news to me and I'll need to read up on that before making any kind of conclusion. Can u give a quick summary to that tho?

[Witty]

God can exist without Satan

Satan cannot exist without god

Read some Augustine if ur in a philosophical mood

Your first sentence is incorrect.

God can (and did) exist without Satan. According to the Bible. However without God there could be no Satan.

[uh-oh]

Is satan lucifer?

Who was the snake in the garden of eden?

[Ghost1]

Your first sentence is incorrect.

God can (and did) exist without Satan. According to the Bible. However without God there could be no Satan.

My first sentence is fucking correct u drunk FAGOT read it AGAIN

[Witty]

My bad. I operate under the assumption that at least 33% of everything you say must be nonsense.

[Twodrop]

Is satan lucifer?

Who was the snake in the garden of eden?

No.

The snake represents human choice, or free will.

or if ur a bible thumper, EVIL INCARNATE.

[Ghost1]

Now that's news to me and I'll need to read up on that before making any kind of conclusion. Can u give a quick summary to that tho?

Basically....

Good is good

Bad is the absence of good

So bad cannot exist without good

But good can exist without bad because it is the foundation


Say for instance light

Light is light

Darkness is the absence of light


Darkness cannot exist with out light

Light can exist without darkness


Apply it to god

God was the first and only eternal being outside of space and time....he created everything....and in turn created Satan.....

God is god

Satan is the absence of god

Satan cannot exist without god

God can exist without Satan

[Witty]

Is satan lucifer?

Who was the snake in the garden of eden?

Yes. And the snake was also Satan/Lucifer/Abbadon/Beelzebub/Apollyon/Belial.

[Witty]

No.

The snake represents human choice, or free will.

or if ur a bible thumper, EVIL INCARNATE.

The snake is Satan.

[Ghost1]

My bad. I operate under the assumption that at least 33% of everything you say must be nonsense.

Jeesh not sure if I'm offended or flattered lmao

[Witty]

The reason the snake must be Satan is simple logic. The snake is urging others to disobey God's command, this is a sin..at this point in time the world and it's inhabitants are without sin...thus this snake must dwell somewhere other than earth and be capable of willfully disobeying God. The snake must be Satan.

[veritas]

Luciferianism basic tenets:

Lucifer was trying to help humanity by having them eat of the tree...to illuminate them.

God did not want that and punished him.

Lucifer isGood. God is not.


If you believe this you are mad.

I will contend with any and all as to why this is a poor choice.

[Twodrop]

why would 'illuminating' humanity be a bad choice, and has this happened or not?

[Chyeahhh!!!]

El P youtube the Great Inception

[dull boy]

This thread again.

[Elemental P]

El P youtube the Great Inception

Think I seen that one I'll double check

And as for if Lucifer and Satan are the same I think some say it's debateable...
Some think Satan was the agent for Lucifer... Or that Satan was the true bad guy but Lucifer caught the bad rap. There's all kinds of different versions I read about but they all resort back to one point and that's "Satan/Lucifer is actually a good guy/wants the best for Man)

Lucifer will ALWAYS hate man b.c we are made.in the image of God and he obviously hates god and his creations. Lucifers pride and ego is what got his ass kicked out for being a whiny bitch

[Elemental P]

Basically....

Good is good

Bad is the absence of good

So bad cannot exist without good

But good can exist without bad because it is the foundation


Say for instance light

Light is light

Darkness is the absence of light


Darkness cannot exist with out light

Light can exist without darkness


Apply it to god

God was the first and only eternal being outside of space and time....he created everything....and in turn created Satan.....

God is god

Satan is the absence of god

Satan cannot exist without god

God can exist without Satan

Ok I see now. Since god is the creator god he can exist without Satan but Satan is not the creator god so therefore he can not exist unless god created him

[Chyeahhh!!!]

Someone touched on it

Zues Jupiter Thor Baal Satan all the same person

Apollyon abaddon not Satan tho, just high demon also is Apollo and

The lower case g gods did the many name game, ancient cultures described the same deities by different names after big g God fucked up the languages for the tower of babel incident.

Also, that flick immortals plays off the fallen angels if you've seen it. Greek mythology describes the same war in heaven the bible talks about. The twenty angels who fell on mt hermon, mated with the women and the mighty men of renown were born the giants. The 20 angels each had 10 angels under them. The 200. Mt Hermon interestingly enough is home to Hermon hotel, the highest United Nations base in the world at the summit. At the mountains base is the temple of pan this in the city of Golan heights, Syrian territory but mostly Israeli occupied.

[Elemental P]

I watched a YouTube video (and I hate citing that as some kind of valid source cuz it's not) but it intrigued me...

Basically said that, Lucifer created these false religions (new age movement, transhumanism etc etc along with ALL secret societies) as a P
Preemptively attacking Christianity before it was"concieved) basically, they created religions like Egyptian to Mimic Christianity before it's conception to make it seem like Christianity was UNORIGINAL and Plagerism...But as the video said they are false religions b.c Jesus Christ is the true son of God/is God. And just because these false religions came BEFORE Christ appears on Earth, does not mean they were the first and original religions and Christianity is plagerism...which to me makes sense. Satan had knowledge of Christ coming to earth and when, therefore he could make a preemptive move before his arrival to make it seem like he was a false God...the devil is the most cunning of all beings. Master of deception and lies, he gave birth to knowledge and knowledge is power and he manipulates this with laser precision. The way he mixed truth with fiction is clever and makes it difficult to discern the two....so be careful what u text u trust.

[Elemental P]

I HIGHLY SUGGEST you guys read this I have read most of it.

https://books.google.com/books?id=H-UNAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA5&source=kp_read_button

[bleak]

Summit of the 5 Kage... interesting

[Geno]

Jesus. Ive already gone down this road with this crowd. Just stop it. Now. No sense re traveling this road

[Pharaohs Army]

Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me

[Twodrop]

Jesus. Ive already gone down this road with this crowd. Just stop it. Now. No sense re traveling this road

Just 1 more time for the new guys. I wanted to start worshiping satan.. If you could give me a starting point.

[Geno]

If you agree with the info here then i can pm you a good link for a place to dig in.


"THERE IS NO GOD BUT MYSELF" "KNOWING THIS, WHO DARES WORSHIP THE FALSE GODS OF THE KORAN AND BIBLE?"
-SATAN
FROM THE QU'RET AL-YEZID

"Darkness is light turned inside out"- Beelzebub

Satanism is not a "Christian invention."

Satanism predates Christianity and all other religions.

Satanism is not about spooks, goblins, vampires, Halloween monsters or other related entities.

Satanism is not about "evil."

Satanism is not a "reaction to Christianity."

Satanism is not about death.

True Satanism is about elevating and empowering humanity, which was our True Creator (Satan's) intention.

We know Satan/Lucifer as a real being.

We know Satan to be the True Father and Creator God of humanity.

We know "Yaweh/Jehova" of the bible to be a fictitious entity, and the people behind coercing this lie, to be the true deceivers of humanity and the masters of lies. This is evident in the many contradictions within the Judeo/Christian Bible, revealing this text to be the work of human beings who had occult knowledge and infused it with power to make it credible, and to incite fear in order to control.

We are law abiding.

We DO NOT advocate or participate in any blood or living sacrifice. This act is Judeo/Christian, as stated in their Bible- Deuteronomy 12:27:
"And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh."

We have found Satanism is the original religion of humanity. We have done our research. Satanism is based upon the ancient religions that predated Judaism and Christianity from hundreds to thousands of years.

Christianity was a reaction to the original Pagan religions, labeled as "Satanism" meaning "enemy/adversary" in Hebrew. If you read through the information contained within this website, we prove this.

Christianity was invented to remove spiritual and occult knowledge (the powers of the mind) from the populace and place this power in the hands of a "chosen" few to the detriment of all humanity. The powers of the mind and soul are very real. People who are unaware of or who do not believe in these powers are easy to control and manipulate by those who are skilled in using these energies.

The Original Gods [Demons] were unjustly labeled as monsters and branded as "evil" to keep humanity from spiritual knowledge. Because of this, the human race has drastically degenerated both spiritually and intellectually.

Spiritual Satanism strongly advocates all learning, knowledge, inquiry, and free thought.

Spiritual Satanism supports the separation of church and state. Satanists do not push Satanism or prosyletize.

Spiritual Satanists acknowledge science and believe everything of the occult/supernatural to have a rational scientific explanation. We believe humanity has been held back dangerously in this area due to the hoax of Judeo/Christianity and its relentless attacks upon science for centuries.

We practice power meditation to advance spiritually and to elevate ourselves. Power meditation is as essential for the human soul as food is essential for the human body. The serpent, a symbol of Satan represents the firey kundalini force coiled at the base of the spine, which upon ascending, transforms the human mind and soul to a much higher level of understanding and ability. This is the true meaning of "Raising the Devil." The Serpent symbol of Satan also represents the DNA helix of life.

We work directly with Satan. We believe each and every person who is willing and respectful can have a personal relationship with Satan. There are no mediators in Spiritual Satanism; the Ministry is here only for guidance and support.

We take our tenets and practices directly from Satan himself. For far too long, enemies of Satan such as the Christian churches have been at liberty to dictate lies concerning Satan and Satanism. These lies have been the foundation of occult crimes and other heinous acts that they indirectly promote. True Satanism has been actively and zealously suppressed for centuries and many out of ignorance believe lies about Satan and react accordingly.

Spiritual Satanism is a life loving religion. Satan accepts us as we are, but guides us to advance ourselves to where we evolve to a higher level. Spiritual Satanists are free to live their lives as they choose- responsibility to the responsible. We live by natural law and encourage everyone to develop themselves to their fullest extent.

We know we “save” our own souls as opposed to claims of the Nazarene saving anyone. Satanism is based upon the true transformation of the soul through power meditation. The Nazarene is a fictitious entity, whose identity was stolen form some 18+ crucified Pagan Gods, such as Odin, who hung from a tree and is nothing more than a tool to keep humanity under the control of a chosen few. The Nazarene has been used in Christian masses and services as a substitute for a human living blood sacrifice, revealing their true purpose.

The Judeo/Christian religion is a vicious hoax on humanity of catastrophic proportions. For a hoax to succeed there has to be a lack of knowledge on the part of the victim. The Christian religion and its cohorts actively suppress knowledge and free thought, encourage people to be slaves, and never advocate or teach anything for the betterment or advancement of humanity. As opposed to the stories of how the Nazarene healed people; Satan shows us how we can heal ourselves and perform so-called miracles, using our minds and the powers of our own souls.

Through empowering ourselves, we have confidence, self-respect and achieve spiritual advancement and independence.

Spiritual Satanism places no limits on developing the powers of the mind- known as "witchcraft" or "magick." We believe in justice and just as martial artists are versed in the uses of Dim Mak and other aspects of physical combat, Spiritual Satanists are versed in the Black Arts of "magick" should they ever need them. People who are unaware of these powers are defenseless against them, and the powers that be know this all too well. Satan does not tolerate injustice.

Spiritual Satanism does not in any way condone spirit abuse as taught in the classical grimoires. The Demons who were bound and compelled to do the bidding of the sorcerers are now free and anyone using the nine-foot circle methods and "Jehova" names is inviting personal disaster. The Demons are our friends and with respect and reverence in summoning through Satan, we seek to establish mutually beneficial relationships with them.

Spiritual Satanism advocates individuality, liberty, and independence.

It is obvious that Satan is not the "deceiver of humanity." His followers have been few in number and he doesn't need copious amounts of wealth, power and control to keep his followers.

[Elemental P]

You talking about Anton Lavey? Genocide

Not sure if you're playing devil's advocate when the post you just made. but from I know about Satanism, it's basically allowing to do what u want & w.e else as long as it does not harm other individuals.
Genocide, just b.c you have been in these kinds of threads in the past doesn't mean I have and im simply looking for andwers, other peers opinions and input. You do not have to participate in this discussion that is ur choice to do so.

And I disagree with what you said that Satan isn't the great deciever and the father of lies and sin. I'm not basin that off of the Bible either. Some of what you said makes sense but other parts I just don't agree with which there's nothing wrong with that.

[Amen]

I expect 15 pages of uh oh vs Lars, Witty and Bags. And on the other side of the argument, I see V vs Des.

Subscribed.

[Geno]

You talking about Anton Lavey? Genocide

Not sure if you're playing devil's advocate when the post you just made. but from I know about Satanism, it's basically allowing to do what u want & w.e else as long as it does not harm other individuals.
Genocide, just b.c you have been in these kinds of threads in the past doesn't mean I have and im simply looking for andwers, other peers opinions and input. You do not have to participate in this discussion that is ur choice to do so.

And I disagree with what you said that Satan isn't the great deciever and the father of lies and sin. I'm not basin that off of the Bible either. Some of what you said makes sense but other parts I just don't agree with which there's nothing wrong with that.


I was postinf that for.twodrop. not.to be argumentive with you. He asked for info. Gave him some of what i know. Ya. Somewhat laveyan mostly not is where i stood. Mostly spiritual though. Thats where i found most comfort placinf my interests at the time. Never full laveyan but took from it what was relevant to me. Anyhow. Good luck with your researcg. Its all very interesting. This crowd is just the wrong crowd to go into with unless you like being told your an idiot and that what they say is best. Nothing you have to say is meaningful. And so on and yadayada

[Geno]

Im the devil, if ever there was such a thing
The results of much to many drugs what your seeing..

[uh-oh]

I expect 15 pages of uh oh vs Lars, Witty and Bags. And on the other side of the argument, I see V vs Des.

Subscribed.

ive tried to begin numerous times, i just can't though.

its hard to form logical informed arguments with people who don't have the information to understand. its like trying to talk sense about algebra with people who didn't learn algebra, they've just heard about it from people who didn't understand it, so how do you even begin?

in short, its 2018, if rosicrucianists and free masons/illuminati nonsense is still being taken seriously i just can't lmao. i did all this goofy research before too, but i was 16-17.

[Witty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqZo07Ot-uA

[dull boy]

ive tried to begin numerous times, i just can't though.

its hard to form logical informed arguments with people who don't have the information to understand. its like trying to talk sense about algebra with people who didn't learn algebra, they've just heard about it from people who didn't understand it, so how do you even begin?

in short, its 2018, if rosicrucianists and free masons/illuminati nonsense is still being taken seriously i just can't lmao. i did all this goofy research before too, but i was 16-17.

This is basically how I feel about most things.

[Elemental P]

I was postinf that for.twodrop. not.to be argumentive with you. He asked for info. Gave him some of what i know. Ya. Somewhat laveyan mostly not is where i stood. Mostly spiritual though. Thats where i found most comfort placinf my interests at the time. Never full laveyan but took from it what was relevant to me. Anyhow. Good luck with your researcg. Its all very interesting. This crowd is just the wrong crowd to go into with unless you like being told your an idiot and that what they say is best. Nothing you have to say is meaningful. And so on and yadayada

My.mistake I did not realize you were addressing his question I apologize.
And @Uh Oh, I don't see the logic in your premise. I get that u "studied and research" this in the past, what makes u think it's all made up where there is insurmountable amount of evidence showing other wise? Now idk about the whole Alien/Illuminati b.s that sounds too far fetched but if u know ancient civilizations, you should know that they possessed technology far surpassed ours to this day. How can that be? What we are taught in school is corrupted knowledge and I believe that ancient civilizations were highly advance people and not b.c of aliens but b.c we had sacred knowledge back then that I think we lost after many wars and plagued and civilizations being wiped out. We lost our advance knowledge of shit like how to build the Pyramids to the precise measurements that it is. Giza Pyramid itself is symbolic in every down to the actual measurements, to the inside measurements pertaining to the circumference of the earth, to being precisely align to the stars in Orion. That is very advance architect, and it was the Hyksos who architect the Giza Pyramid I believe According to a couple different books I read.

They have made the whole Freemason/Illuminati to be a charade on purpose, to desensitise people to it, make it seem.diluded and made up so( hiding in plain sight b.c the notion of such an elite group is ridiculous right?) Who would believe it...that's how cunning they are and it has worked with you it seems.

[Plot]

Im with Dull boy
this conv is asinine

[Elemental P]

Thanks

[Geno]

Aliens exist.

[Twodrop]

Geno's post raised a lot of questions.

I understand people who have researched masonry/Illuminati and think they have nothing to gain from bringing up the subject... If you feel like u came to a concrete conclusive answer I call bullshit... u just gave up, or thought it wasn't worth ur time. Paying bills and smoking weed is BY FAR more important.

Anyways. The blood sacrifice thing caught my attention. It's funny we associate most occult practices w/ satanism when they actually originate from the Judeo/Christian religions.

One other thing.

I've heard about kundalini energy. Has anyone actually experienced this 'raising the devil'?

The only person I've heard describe it was the lizard dude, David Icke.

Just interested is all...

[Amen]

Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on their souls for they do not know any better.

In the name of the father, son and holy spirit.

AMEN.

[uh-oh]

Im at work but i guess i'll address some of the points raised when i get home

As far as a concrete conclusive point is concerned, you can reach a point where you research the tent poles of the goofy belief system and find them provably false. So for every huh thats strange theory presented, when its presented next to something verifiably false, its easy to throw the whole thing out as conspiracy nut nonsense

[dull boy]

It's funny we associate most occult practices w/ satanism when they actually originate from the Judeo/Christian

No, ‘we’ don’t. You’re projecting.


I want to be involved in these conversations because I have things to contribute, but I get this sense that y’all are 15 years behind me and are unlikely to ever catch up.

[Twodrop]

Well shed some light, please.

Is blood sacrifice not associated with satanism?

Was I the only one who thought if someone sacrificed a cat, they had to be some weird satan worshiping heathen?

Contribute please, all ears.

[dull boy]

Well shed some light, please.

Is blood sacrifice not associated with satanism?

Was I the only one who thought if someone sacrificed a cat, they had to be some weird satan worshiping heathen?

Contribute please, all ears.

Who is sacrificing cats? Or anything for that matter? And if they are why are you bringing it up? What do the origins matter? Human nature is at the root of everything. Religion is a creation of man. What devil? What demon? Do you actually believe in angels and heaven?

I need tons of background on you personally to have any real idea of where you are in your perception of things.

[Twodrop]

Im at work but i guess i'll address some of the points raised when i get home

As far as a concrete conclusive point is concerned, you can reach a point where you research the tent poles of the goofy belief system and find them provably false. So for every huh thats strange theory presented, when its presented next to something verifiably false, its easy to throw the whole thing out as conspiracy nut nonsense

lol. have u attempted to join a lodge?

Have u ran around naked w/ Bill Clinton and recited ancient text?!

U do body work on metal machines. Do not act like an authority on occult matters u no nothing about.

I REALLY DO THIS. I BELONG TO A LODGE. I HAVE SACRIFICED LIVING THINGS TO BEEZLEBUB. I PREFORM BLACK MAGIC ON DAVID BLAINE LEVELS. DO NOT ASSUME TO KNOW, when you do not.

[Twodrop]

Who is sacrificing cats? Or anything for that matter? And if they are why are you bringing it up? What do the origins matter? Human nature is at the root of everything. Religion is a creation of man. What devil? What demon? Do you actually believe in angels and heaven?

I need tons of background on you personally to have any real idea of where you are in your perception of things.

I'm referring to your indoctrinated opinions. I'm asking u what ur familiarity with satanism is... and what it makes u think of.


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SORRY GUIZ JUST SNIFF'D AN 8BALL OF CREATINE... MA BAD

[dull boy]

I'm referring to your indoctrinated opinions. I'm asking u what ur familiarity with satanism is... and what it makes u think of.


edit:

SORRY GUIZ JUST SNIFF'D AN 8BALL OF CREATINE... MA BAD

My indoctrinated opinions? What opinions? How can you refer to things you’re ignorant of?

[Twodrop]

You say I'm ignorant, but ask me questions as if having some backround on my internet persona will gauge how u will deal with me...

I don't fucking know who is sacrificing cats... do people do it? I'm sure... Are they thinking they are practicing satanism? That was closer to my question... If you don't think "dark" shit is going on, that you cannot fathom a reason for... YOU SIR. are ignorant.

The personification of devils/demons... evil/good... I could give a fuck. It manifests in human choice, not something you can 'vanquish'... I'll stop tho, leg day....

[dull boy]

You seem really defensive.

[Elemental P]

No, ‘we’ don’t. You’re projecting.


I want to be involved in these conversations because I have things to contribute, but I get this sense that y’all are 15 years behind me and are unlikely to ever catch up.

You feel as though I'm 15, yrs behind? I kinda doubt that. I mean. I been looking in to this stuff for about 13 yes now.
What do u have to contribute, I'd like to see.

And I been speaking with that guy all morning and apparently he was a part of the Rosocru order/ Rose cross

[Twodrop]

my fault. all love fam... I'm new to this..

[Elemental P]

lol. have u attempted to join a lodge?

Have u ran around naked w/ Bill Clinton and recited ancient text?!

U do body work on metal machines. Do not act like an authority on occult matters u no nothing about.

I REALLY DO THIS. I BELONG TO A LODGE. I HAVE SACRIFICED LIVING THINGS TO BEEZLEBUB. I PREFORM BLACK MAGIC ON DAVID BLAINE LEVELS. DO NOT ASSUME TO KNOW, when you do not.
Lol you're a part of what lodge?
How old is your grandmother by the way?

[Twodrop]

117 bruh and I'm 86. Do the math

[Elemental P]

117 bruh and I'm 86. Do the math

Lol I don't believe you man no offense.

[dull boy]

You say I'm ignorant, but ask me questions as if having some backround on my internet persona will gauge how u will deal with me...

I don't fucking know who is sacrificing cats... do people do it? I'm sure... Are they thinking they are practicing satanism? That was closer to my question... If you don't think "dark" shit is going on, that you cannot fathom a reason for... YOU SIR. are ignorant.

The personification of devils/demons... evil/good... I could give a fuck. It manifests in human choice, not something you can 'vanquish'... I'll stop tho, leg day....

I assumed we weren't speaking from 'internet personas.' Having background on you would change how I deal with you. Isn't that to be expected?

You said what's closer to your question is whether or not the hypothetical people sacrificing cats think they're practicing Satanism? That's impossible to answer, because hypothetical people doing hypothetical things can't be anything more than hypothetically assessed.

I don't deny ignorance. To do so would be stupid.

I'm still not even sure what you're asking or wanting contributed?

[dull boy]

You feel as though I'm 15, yrs behind? I kinda doubt that. I mean. I been looking in to this stuff for about 13 yes now.
What do u have to contribute, I'd like to see.

And I been speaking with that guy all morning and apparently he was a part of the Rosocru order/ Rose cross

Looking into what stuff?

[Amen]

dull boy - just tell them how you were an emo satan worshiper back in your depressed and demonic teenage years.

[dull boy]

dull boy - just tell them how you were an emo satan worshiper back in your depressed and demonic teenage years.

This isn't the thread for hyperbole.

[Elemental P]

Looking into what stuff?
Have you not read my first post I made in here?

In to occult stuff, philosophy, religion, conspiracy theories etc

[Amen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk7ORDgwlq0

[veritas]

This thread explains a lot about your minds.

[bleak]

Lololol

[Elemental P]

This thread explains a lot about your minds.

What do you mean by that... Is that good or bad?

[veritas]

While I appreciate study and seeking knowledge, I cannot understand how conclusions end where they do.

It is like measuring out a plum line. If it is even the slightest bit off in the beginning one wouldn’t even notice. But if it isn’t corrected as time and distance progress the line is WAY off.

[dull boy]

While I appreciate study and seeking knowledge, I cannot understand how conclusions end where they do.

It is like measuring out a plum line. If it is even the slightest bit off in the beginning one wouldn’t even notice. But if it isn’t corrected as time and distance progress the line is WAY off.

This is a fine analogy.

2,000 years ago was a long time ago (2,000 years, to be precise). It’s difficult to make solid conclusions based on information that’s muddied beyond literal comprehension.

[For Battling]

Yea if you believe Satan is god then I’ve got some bad news doggy

[veritas]

This is a fine analogy.

2,000 years ago was a long time ago (2,000 years, to be precise). It’s difficult to make solid conclusions based on information that’s muddied beyond literal comprehension.

But if the line is straight and remains straight then no amount of time or distance will waver it.

[bleak]

If u believe any of the people mentioned itt are deities and/or celestial beings who control ur lives, I got some bad news for you doggy.

[Amen]

I believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
I acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
I look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come.

Amen.

I will pray for you all.

[Inno]

If you thought amen wouldn’t post itt again, I got some bad news for you doggy

[Amen]

If you thought amen wouldn’t post itt again, I got some bad news for you doggy

Everyone entertaining this threads needs some god in their life. I will pray for them and you.

[Destroyer]

Lol. Don’t waste your breath praying for me bro beans

[veritas]

I am fixing to start praying for you Jude.

[Ghost1]

If you thought amen wouldn’t post itt again, I got some bad news for you doggy

lmfao rep

[Destroyer]

I will anti-pray for you if you do, I swear to non-god

[uh-oh]

@Uh Oh, I don't see the logic in your premise. I get that u "studied and research" this in the past, what makes u think it's all made up where there is insurmountable amount of evidence showing other wise? Now idk about the whole Alien/Illuminati b.s that sounds too far fetched 1. but if u know ancient civilizations, you should know that they possessed technology far surpassed ours to this day. How can that be? What we are taught in school is corrupted knowledge and2. I believe that ancient civilizations were highly advance people and not b.c of aliens but b.c we had sacred knowledge back then that I think we lost after many wars and plagued and civilizations being wiped out. ...

3. We lost our advance knowledge of shit like how to build the Pyramids to the precise measurements that it is. Giza Pyramid itself is symbolic in every down to the actual measurements, to the inside measurements pertaining to the circumference of the earth, to being precisely align to the stars in Orion. That is very advance architect, 4. and it was the Hyksos who architect the Giza Pyramid I believe According to a couple different books I read.


1. wrong.

2. somewhat agree. i wouldn't coin it sacred knowledge, and by advanced civilizations i would only say by the means the average person would view them today. it is a gigantic undertaking to build something like the great pyramid, thats not something a simple people can accomplish. its conspiracy weirdo's who push that narrative. not schools. they want you to believe that you were taught they were a simple people in loincloths just farming and living like savages. but anyone who studies anything on ancient egypt knows how complex the society was, espescially during the golden era.

3. what was lost was the knowledge of how THEY built it, exactly. it isn't some sacred mysticism and secret knowledge. its literally just the means that was lost. since there wasn't blueprints left behind and a detailed diary from the overseers lmao we don't know EXACTLY how they did it, but there are numerous explanations available that work and make sense, using their own technologies of the time, even without some special cranes or devices they may have built we are unaware of. but we know where they cut the stones, and we can see how they cut the stones by the markings left and stones that weren't cut completely, it isn't some magical process.

you have to understand the power of humans when an entire society puts their minds to a task, and a society that had the luxury to do so, due to them eliminating external threats, and having an abundance of resources which freed them from the daily grind of survival, in an era when survival was everything.

the human mind has been the same for thousands and thousands of years, society and culture changes quickly, but human beings dont. they were just as capable as we are today of having intelligent ideas and formulating plans etc.

4. wrong. the great pyramid pre-dates the hyksos by 1000 years.

all this goofy conspiracy nonsense led me into being interested in actual reality. espescially with the ancient world, if you want to wonder about ancient civilizations, wonder about the sphinx, and the structures the pyramids were built on top of. wonder about gobekli tepe, wonder about the stone the parthenon was built on, about the homo sapien bones found in china older than the homo sapien bones found in africa

there is a ton of crazy shit we don't know. trying to draw correlations between things we do know, and filling in our gaps of knowledge with evil secret societies mannnnnn, is a futile pursuit and just goofy when compared with our knowledge of human behavior.

[uh-oh]

like yo

have you any knowledge of "the sea peoples" and the dark age before the dark age basically. the dark age of the ancient world?

read 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed by eric cline. its interesting shit.

granted there are no hooded figures worshipping an owl god and oppressing you by forcing you to pay taxes, but its interesting stuff.

edit- also 1177 bc is damn near 1500 years AFTER the great pyramid was built. to think we'd have the knowledge of how they built its 4,500 years lates is a little strange. but again its not because we couldn't build it, or they couldn't build it without some secret tech. when i reference the "knowledge of how they built it" im strictly referring to the actual process. like if i dug a hole in your yard, and you didn't watch me. you could guess at how i dug it. but you wouldn't have the knowledge of how i did it. that doesn't mean i used anti gravity machines to lift the dirt out, you just don't know if i used a shovel and a wheel barrow or a garden spade and a red wagon etc etc

[Elemental P]

No I don't believe so about the Hyksos, can u come where u seen that from cuz I read a couple diff arguments opposed to that.

[uh-oh]

google friend

the hyksos were the 16th/15th dynasty who conquered/took over in 1600ish bc

the great pyramid was built by khufu in 2560 bc

also hyksos was literally just the term for "foreign rulers" which makes sense since the hyksos came and took over/ruled. while they were written as asiatic, in egyptian terms that literally just means east of egypt, and technically the middle east is asia. even turkey is asia but word.

[bleak]

I heard this theory that there were Gods that helped build the pyramids, in preparation for an extinction of some sort. They out all if the common folk (humans) into the pyramids to keep them safe. In the process and afterwards, the Gods were wiped out. Humans lived in the pyramids for generations, hundreds of years. By the time they left, when they saw what they were staying inside, they just assumed that they had built it, and no one was still alive to say what had actually hapoened. These people would become the Egyptians.

[Plot]

Pyramids: Dude says I want my tomb to be a big block. Next dude says, well imma gonna have a block on my block. Next dude says, well Im gonna have a block, on my block, on my block. Thats it.

[bleak]

Pyramids: Dude says I want my tomb to be a big block. Next dude says, well imma gonna have a block on my block. Next dude says, well Im gonna have a block, on my block, on my block. Thats it.

Facing true north before compasses and cut into exact dimensions. 4 ton blocks my dude that wasn't even possible til like 1980

[Plot]

They used ladders, pivots, levers, the stars.
The society paid their tax by working on them, no mysterys.

And the Sphinx was originally a jackal until some dude wanted his face on it.

[Amen]

I heard this theory that there were Gods that helped build the pyramids, in preparation for an extinction of some sort. They out all if the common folk (humans) into the pyramids to keep them safe. In the process and afterwards, the Gods were wiped out. Humans lived in the pyramids for generations, hundreds of years. By the time they left, when they saw what they were staying inside, they just assumed that they had built it, and no one was still alive to say what had actually hapoened. These people would become the Egyptians.

And you believe this garbage?

[Hush]

I will anti-pray for you if you do, I swear to non-god

10/10

[Hush]

Facing true north before compasses and cut into exact dimensions. 4 ton blocks my dude that wasn't even possible til like 1980

Lmao


Must be aliens

[veritas]

I will anti-pray for you if you do, I swear to non-god

I am ok with this arrangement. I begin tonight. What would you like me to pray for for you?

[Twodrop]

Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers right now nothing going on I'm just a narcissist

[bleak]

And you believe this garbage?

No but it makes as much sense as any other theories presented itt, I think yall missed the point.

[Amen]

Ok.

[dull boy]

This thread, as small of a percentage of the population that it represents; is fucking horrifying. Horrifying in the sense that horrifying isn’t the proper word, but seems exaggerated enough to somewhat resemble how HORRFYING some of your beliefs are.

The internet has created an avalanche of available knowledge, but it’s changed sharply since the turn of the century. Conspiracy has evolved from a slice of curiosity and healthy distrust, into a legitimate business that’s being shaped by what’s the most entertaining. This isn’t necessarily a new concept, but the internet has given a platform and sounding board for any and every possible hypothesis. I was talking to my son yesterday about the watering down of music due to the ease of recording. It’s the same with media and entertainment. Those of us old enough and fortunate enough to be internet connected in the mid 90s might remember the vibe of an endless collection of encyclopedias. There was a scholarly atmosphere. That’s slowly degraded into a tabloid culture. The internet was once upon a time ‘for geeks and pedophiles.’ This rapid evolution has given us generations who can believe the earth is flat.

What’s my point? You’re probably an idiot.

This is pontification at it’s worst. Mostly poorly educated individuals having religious and philosophical debates based on articles and theories. What’s concrete here? Your simple life doesn’t need to be spent sensationalizing the theory of how ancient structures were built. This thread started with knowing thine enemy. As if this were a war. If there’s a war it’s being fought in vain. Nothing matters here. The pyramids don’t matter. Our religions don’t matter. Shut the fuck up about all this shit you can’t possibly know. We’re smaller than what seems fathomable. Meaningless in the scheme of things.

[Amen]

This thread, as small of a percentage of the population that it represents; is fucking horrifying. Horrifying in the sense that horrifying isn’t the proper word, but seems exaggerated enough to somewhat resemble how HORRFYING some of your beliefs are.

The internet has created an avalanche of available knowledge, but it’s changed sharply since the turn of the century. Conspiracy has evolved from a slice of curiosity and healthy distrust, into a legitimate business that’s being shaped by what’s the most entertaining. This isn’t necessarily a new concept, but the internet has given a platform and sounding board for any and every possible hypothesis. I was talking to my son yesterday about the watering down of music due to the ease of recording. It’s the same with media and entertainment. Those of us old enough and fortunate enough to be internet connected in the mid 90s might remember the vibe of an endless collection of encyclopedias. There was a scholarly atmosphere. That’s slowly degraded into a tabloid culture. The internet was once upon a time ‘for geeks and pedophiles.’ This rapid evolution has given us generations who can believe the earth is flat.

What’s my point? You’re probably an idiot.

Google is the devil.

[Destroyer]

Here’s a serious question for any Christians here:
Why does god get credit for saving those boys in Thailand but no blame for putting them in the situation initially?

[dull boy]

Google is the devil.

I saw a picture of what looked like an old advertisement for Google a few days ago. Here was the pitch...

Google (www.google.com) is a pure search engine — no weather, no news feed, no links to sponsors, no ads, no distractions, no portal litter. Nothing but a fast-loading search site. Reward them with a visit.

[dull boy]

Here’s a serious question for any Christians here:
Why does god get credit for saving those boys in Thailand but no blame for putting them in the situation initially?

Fuck you. You trolling?

Is that really a serious question?

[Amen]

I strongly feel Google changed the internet.

[Destroyer]

Fuck you. You trolling?

Is that really a serious question?

How could it not be?

[Destroyer]

You can’t just give credit for everything positive to some all-powerful thing without also laying all the blame on it for everything negative. It’s all-powerful.

[dull boy]

How could it not be?

Seems inflammatory. Redundant if you’ve had even the slightest experience in this type of discourse. Answer the question yourself and move on with your point. The question will only draw things out.

If you’re being serious, that is.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Why is this thread the only thing poppin this week

[dull boy]

You can’t just give credit for everything positive to some all-powerful thing without also laying all the blame on it for everything negative. It’s all-powerful.

I think... that when religious folk thank God for something positive; they aren’t insinuating he had a personal hand in it. People think of God in these contradictory ways, but it makes sense if you think about how they’re actually looking at it.

God didn’t save the boys, but God is good. God doesn’t allow bad things to happen. It’s beyond our understanding.

That’s their take, obviously.

[dull boy]

Why is this thread the only thing poppin this week

Because $200 isn’t enough to draw a crowd. Gotta have mags and intrigue.


IM KIDDING. ITS THE ONLY THING POPPING CAUSE ITS SO CORNY, BUT HOT.


Get it? You can use that in your standup routine, you funny faggot.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Because $200 isn’t enough to draw a crowd. Gotta have mags and intrigue.


IM KIDDING. ITS THE ONLY THING POPPING CAUSE ITS SO CORNY, BUT HOT.


Get it? You can use that in your standup routine, you funny faggot.

Aw you’re mad

[dull boy]

Aw you’re mad

Mad lol This is a discussion board where people type back and fourth to one another. So when you, who I couldn’t conjure up one fact about, says I’m mad for responding to you similarly to how you’ve engaged me recently, it comes off as A. hypocritical or B. an act of deflection.

Mad? Sure. Obsessed, even, fella. Or maybe I just find your recent boarding to be homosexual in nature.

I DONT KNOW

[~RustyGunZ~]

Yeah very upset

[dull boy]

Yeah very upset

And you’re playing the cool guy who makes nonchalant jokes but is untouchable, because he doesn’t really care.

Original.

Tell me another joke, clown. This umadbro shit is unbecoming someone of your comedic chops.

[~RustyGunZ~]

You being legitimately flustered ruins the allure of humor, bad environment and vibes. You’re kind of pathetic.

[dull boy]

You being legitimately flustered ruins the allure of humor, bad environment and vibes. You’re kind of pathetic.

That’s just mean spirited to say to another human being... but nonsense.

My (ALLEGED) flustering has ruined the allure of humor? Maybe the allure only existed to you and others with an equally low standard for comedy? Or maybe I’m being so straight forward and real so that your stance looks childish in comparison.

Maybe you should stop gargling my nuts and we won’t have to do this dance.

Also I think you put your comma in the wrong spot. Makes your sentence somewhat incoherent.

[~RustyGunZ~]

I think that you think you’re schooling me, but you’re just being weird and upset.

[dull boy]

I think that you think you’re schooling me, but you’re just being weird and upset.

I don’t think you think well, but you’re talking subjective shit and passing it off as real. What does that make you think I’m thinking? Keep wondering while I school you some more.

If I say you’re upset does it make it so? It’s kind of a classic defense, no?

Example:

You follow a guy around making junior high jokes. The guy is like, ‘the fuck is this guy and what’s his deal.’ Meanwhile funny guy says that the butt of his jokes is now flustered and angry. Butt of joke is like NAH IM NOT MAD because it’s bad to defend oneself against such idiocy BUT does it make comedian any less ‘pathetic?’ I don’t know, Knuck.

Shit is complicated, ya know. Maybe. Maybe. Stop being a faggot.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Lol okay man

Keep writing shitty spoken word pieces that aren’t as introspective as you believe they are while people think you’re okay cus bb ghostwrites for you occasionally. That’s a better use of your time.

[dull boy]

Lol okay man

Keep writing shitty spoken word pieces that aren’t as introspective as you believe they are while people think you’re okay cus bb ghostwrites for you occasionally. That’s a better use of your time.

Woahhhhhhh. Now it all makes sense, doesn’t it? The knowledge of my style. Your strong opinions on it. SAYING NO ONE LIKES ME. My word, Knuck. You sound... flustered. Don’t ruin the allure of your comedy routine. It’s so cool and original.

big baby. Ghostwrite the rest of this discussion for me. I’m just too upset to continue.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Are you trying to troll?

[dull boy]

Are you trying to troll?

I never troll, but if I did you wouldn’t label it as ‘trying’ unless you were a faggot who has way too much of my balls in his/her mouth.

This means you, in case you couldn’t follow.

[~RustyGunZ~]

You talk a lot about balls and men’s openings

Seems pretty gay for a guy that uses faggot as an insult.

[dull boy]

You're a very poor role model for these kids; do you know that?

http://thumbs.gfycat.com/ReliableCelebratedHoiho-size_restricted.gif

[~RustyGunZ~]

I'm not sure where you're going with this but I like it

[dull boy]

It's hard to get my balls off my mind when you're giving them such an excellent tongue bath.

BANGARANG RUFIO

[~RustyGunZ~]

Can I steal this ball sucking gag for my stand up routine?

[dull boy]

Can I steal this ball sucking gag for my stand up routine?

You’re stealing my routine (which is a satire of yours) of making fun of your routine, while asking if you can use it.

You’re out of your depths, Donnie.

[Ghost1]

PancakeBrah watchu think my guy? who knew DB had this boarding talent eh?

[~RustyGunZ~]

lol you wild

[PancakeBrah]

PancakeBrah watchu think my guy? who knew DB had this boarding talent eh?

Dull boy and deadman secretly best boarders. Knuck absolutely blown the fuck out ITT.

[~RustyGunZ~]

really?

gg dull boy

don't see it but clearly my perception of things are off today

bad ball jokes and teenage angst pair well with rape porn defense

[PancakeBrah]

I do hope we can get back to Egyptian Rothchilds and Alien Satan at some point soon. I feel like we're close.

[~RustyGunZ~]

No this thread died with bad back and forth sorry

I didn't spend 45 seconds of my day to have bags and pancake say i lost a poop throwing contest to a suicidal dirtbag for this stupid thread to continue

[Ghost1]

gone

[dull boy]

No this thread died with bad back and forth sorry

I didn't spend 45 seconds of my day to have bags and pancake say i lost a poop throwing contest to a suicidal dirtbag for this stupid thread to continue

You underestimate my powers AND I have the high ground. You may as well chop your own legs off and set yourself on fire. Poop throwing. Pfft. You’re throwing unimaginative Peter Panning air. Face caked in shit. Looking like Biff Tannen. ONLY FORTYFIVE SECONDS GUYS. You’re. Too. Cool. Blanket statements and lazy labels. I’d hurt you in any forum.

That goes for all y’all. Sleeping giant. Let me slumber. You don’t want my mourning breath.

[veritas]

You underestimate my powers AND I have the high ground. You may as well chop your own legs off and set yourself on fire. Poop throwing. Pfft. You’re throwing unimaginative Peter Panning air. Face caked in shit. Looking like Biff Tannen. ONLY FORTYFIVE SECONDS GUYS. You’re. Too. Cool. Blanket statements and lazy labels. I’d hurt you in any forum.

That goes for all y’all. Sleeping giant. Let me slumber. You don’t want my mourning breath.

as long as the "all y'all" in this "threat" does not include me, we are good. Netcees Intellectual Dark Web rep.

[bleak]

I literally referenced the Summit of the Five Kage ITT and yall took my pyramid post seriously.

To clarify: there is no God. There is no reason to hope. We will all die and feed our nutrients back to the only god I recognize: Mother Earth.

[veritas]

you are certain of this, yes?

[~RustyGunZ~]

You underestimate my powers AND I have the high ground. You may as well chop your own legs off and set yourself on fire. Poop throwing. Pfft. You’re throwing unimaginative Peter Panning air. Face caked in shit. Looking like Biff Tannen. ONLY FORTYFIVE SECONDS GUYS. You’re. Too. Cool. Blanket statements and lazy labels. I’d hurt you in any forum.

That goes for all y’all. Sleeping giant. Let me slumber. You don’t want my mourning breath.

You won because I assumed you cut your hair with steak knifes and cut across the road with them afterwards while you wrote bad poems for internet rappers.

I’d fuck you raw going forward

[dull boy]

I wasn’t trying and my controller is broken

Can you dunk, but just not in those shoes?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Can you dunk, but just not in those shoes?

Can you write creative pieces that aren’t bad attempts at being edgy, just not with that keyboard?

I’m gonna write a scene of your journey into making your last thrillng written word entry

Fucking retard

[dull boy]

okay, maybe a 5th grade reading level

[~RustyGunZ~]

What side of the table do you believe you’re on and what’s your view on both sides stances and tactics?

I’ll take your response in here or as a poorly written open mic that is ironic

[~RustyGunZ~]

Good edit

[Amen]

Lmfao

[dull boy]

What side of the table do you believe you’re on and what’s your view on both sides stances and tactics?

I’ll take your response in here or as a poorly written open mic that is ironic

I'm your superior when it comes to writing. This isn't even debatable. Let us not front.

[bleak]

you are certain of this, yes?

No one can be certain about anything. I'm certain we will die without being certain.

[~RustyGunZ~]

I'm your superior when it comes to writing. This isn't even debatable. Let us not front.

I’ve only read your recent piece to low blow you with a bad modding joke and heard you talk about how great you used to be, so wouldn’t be able to really speak on that. Scheinberg did similar things when talking about his long bar triumphs.

Link me to your best work.

[big baby]

lol drake song i don't say keke i say bb do u love me lmao

[veritas]

No one can be certain about anything. I'm certain we will die without being certain.

So you retract your previous statement about being certain there is no God then yes?

[bleak]

So you retract your previous statement about being certain there is no God then yes?

Yes. Are u certain there is?

[PancakeBrah]

Thank you, Bleak and Veritas, for getting back to the heart of the matter.

[For Battling]

lol drake song i don't say keke i say bb do u love me lmao

Lmaooooo

[veritas]

Yes. Are u certain there is?

Yes.

[dull boy]

Thank you, Bleak and Veritas, for getting back to the heart of the matter.

Some people started singing it not knowing what it was

[Twodrop]

Yes.

Wern't you just arguing about faith?

Is faith a certainty? Or a choice to believe.

[veritas]

Some people started singing it not knowing what it was

What is better? The song that never ends or the lolz that never start?

[veritas]

Wern't you just arguing about faith?

Is faith a certainty? Or a choice to believe.

I am certain everyone has faith. Is that what you mean?

[dull boy]

What is better? The song that never ends or the lolz that never start?

I’m not sure I know how to answer this.

[Twodrop]

If bleak isn't allowed certainty, how can u claim it?

If you believe god exists, that is ur personal faith/belief.

I don't get ur evangelical motives.

[veritas]

If bleak isn't allowed certainty, how can u claim it?

If you believe god exists, that is ur personal faith/belief.

I don't get ur evangelical motives.

I merely pointed out that he contradicted himself in two consecutive posts. This is about him. Not me.

As for me being certain of faith that is a different topic.

[Twodrop]

but why does it upset you to the point of ranting for 3-4 pages... that someone doesn't believe in ur god.

[veritas]

It doesn’t upset me in the way you think it upsets me. I just ask questions really.

[veritas]

I’m not sure I know how to answer this.

And this begins our beginning.

[bleak]

Yes.

But how can you? Not for the sake of argument either V I don't believe that your faith is that ironclad. I AM certain that IF there is a God, NO ONE is right about it.

[veritas]

But how can you? Not for the sake of argument either V I don't believe that your faith is that ironclad. I AM certain that IF there is a God, NO ONE is right about it.

My faith is ironclad. So is everyone’s. Everyone has faith.

[~RustyGunZ~]

But how can you? Not for the sake of argument either V I don't believe that your faith is that ironclad. I AM certain that IF there is a God, NO ONE is right about it.

you can't say you're not certain about "a gods" existence but say you're certain no one can possibly be right.

[For Battling]

Y’all talk about the same fucking shit in every thread, cut it out

[bleak]

you can't say you're not certain about "a gods" existence but say you're certain no one can possibly be right.

That's why I said if, and my stetament was more in the sense of:

How can u tell me I'm wrong when no one really knows? My OPINION is that there is no God, just like V's OPINION is that there for sure is. I'm saying no one can be certain so it's more like arguing over if the Rams or 49er's will be better this season as opposed to arguing if... sunlight exists or some shit.

When honestly the burden of proof is on Veritas. There is tons more evidence to support there not being a God then there is to argue the point.

Edit: tons was a strong word

[~RustyGunZ~]

Beliefs and faith aren't things to be argued. They don't need evidence to support their claims. That's why agnostic and atheist folks get no where in debates with religious folk.

Belief =/= opinion

It can not be swayed. It's a waste of time for anyone to tell someone who has faith and belief in a cause or person that they're wrong.

Don't be like Destroyer and uh-oh. Just let the man believe what he wants to believe and be aware enough to know if you can't say there is or isn't a God, than you can't say that his idea of God isn't possibly correct. If you don't have faith in anything, that's your choice that no one needs to know about unless you want to take a leap of faith.

[bleak]

Well worded and fair play

[Amen]

There definitely is a higher power. Whether it's god, gods, aliens - SOMETHING exists.

[Witty]

Amen has spoken.

Thread over.

The rest of y'all take some Apple Cider Vinegar and shut the fuck up.

[Destroyer]

Beliefs and faith aren't things to be argued. They don't need evidence to support their claims. That's why agnostic and atheist folks get no where in debates with religious folk.

Belief =/= opinion

It can not be swayed. It's a waste of time for anyone to tell someone who has faith and belief in a cause or person that they're wrong.

Don't be like Destroyer and uh-oh. Just let the man believe what he wants to believe and be aware enough to know if you can't say there is or isn't a God, than you can't say that his idea of God isn't possibly correct. If you don't have faith in anything, that's your choice that no one needs to know about unless you want to take a leap of faith.

Bitch. I have never faulted anyone for their beliefs
I only stand up when veritas starts spouting how he “knows the truth.”
Nobody knows shit.

[uh-oh]

I KNOW THE TRUTH

[Destroyer]

lol. Of course I meant “except uh-oh”

[Amen]

Amen has spoken.

Thread over.

The rest of y'all take some Apple Cider Vinegar and shut the fuck up.

Snapple facts!

[~RustyGunZ~]

Bitch. I have never faulted anyone for their beliefs
I only stand up when veritas starts spouting how he “knows the truth.”
Nobody knows shit.

You disrespect his beliefs by belittling his faith.

[Destroyer]

I do not
But if one purports to know the “truth,” they better be prepared to engage in rational discourse
If simply asking questions “belittles one’s faith,” well,...

[~RustyGunZ~]

I do not
But if one purports to know the “truth,” they better be prepared to engage in rational discourse
If simply asking questions “belittles one’s faith,” well,...

Dude, you argue that his faith is either wrong or needs to be backed by facts nonstop in multiple threads for pages and pages. Don’t act like you make mild mannered inquiries lmao.

[Destroyer]

If you actually read what I say to him, I think you’d see that I don’t assert the falsity of his beliefs, but I do challenge him to explain the rationale that leads him to accept them.
I only get irate when he asserts the possession of knowledge that no one has.

[~RustyGunZ~]

If you actually read what I say to him, I think you’d see that I don’t assert the falsity of his beliefs, but I do challenge him to explain the rationale that leads him to accept them.
I only get irate when he asserts the possession of knowledge that no one has.

That “knowledge no one has” is his faith. He doesn’t owe you an explanation, nor does any religious person.

[Destroyer]

Hey knuck, are you just trying to engage everyone on the site simultaneously or what?

[Destroyer]

Or are you legit telling me that faith equates to knowledge?

[~RustyGunZ~]

I’m on here, why wouldn’t I give my 2 cents on whatever is being said? Lurking is just weird lol.

I’m telling you that faith literally means

2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

It doesn’t need evidence. It doesn’t need to justify itself to you.

YOU are saying it SHOULD equate to knowledge and that’s why you unsuccessfully argue against it.

*and, not respecting what it is makes you a douchebag. You’re equally as much of an asshat as trumpians when they question and insult people of Islamic faith. Stop being a douchebag.

[Amen]

Lol, jesus christ.

[Destroyer]

Lmao
Ok knuck
I don’t have the time or desire to list what makes you a douchebag
We’ll have to disagree to disagree

[veritas]

I do not
But if one purports to know the “truth,” they better be prepared to engage in rational discourse
If simply asking questions “belittles one’s faith,” well,...

I do not consider you to belittle my faith. But I also consider my discourse with you rational.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Lmao
Ok knuck
I don’t have the time or desire to list what makes you a douchebag
We’ll have to disagree to disagree

Go ahead, I’d love to hear them so you can deflect the fact you’re being one now. That would be really sneaky and convenient of you!

Why better yourself when you can ignore your character flaws by pointing out someone else’s?

[Destroyer]

Good point knuck

[Amen]

Good point knuck

LOL lighten up, old man.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Good point knuck

Thanks.

[Destroyer]

You should follow your own philosophies
And, you’re welcome

[~RustyGunZ~]

You should follow your own philosophies
And, you’re welcome

I don’t argue with religious people. There are a lot of things I could do to improve. I try everyday.

[Ghost1]

u argue w everyone lol...its ok once in a while to not respond...u have like 3 ongoing wars currently literally about nothing

[~RustyGunZ~]

u argue w everyone lol...its ok once in a while to not respond...u have like 3 ongoing wars currently literally about nothing

People argue with me, I don’t back down like a bitch lol. I’m a target for anyone to yell at, it’s pretty obvious.

Mine and dullboy thing is because I made a lowbrow joke about his bad modding though. That dude is a lonely faggot lol.

[Ghost1]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs/giphy.gif

[~RustyGunZ~]

Word

Let me just point out there were like 3 threads with 5 post for a week and a half after muff and hush stopped bickering with me. I @ db for an effortless joke in the SC thread and call lars habits disgusting and unnecessary for a proper life and suddenly there’s a bit of activity

There was this thread too though. Good old fashioned religious and nibiru stuff. Way better than a classic knuck frenzy.

[Amen]

You are argumentative, Knuck.

Nothing wrong with that. You just like to argue. I do as well, sometimes. I believe boredom plays a roll in it lol...

[~RustyGunZ~]

Yeah I’ve hit like a 3 week patch where I’m lazily using working for myself as an excuse for not doing much of anything. Kind of like an unplanned vacation lol.

[Ghost1]

i don't really consider these 10 page arguments activity tho..... i know damn sure i don't waste my time reading them lol its just clutter

[Destroyer]

i don't really consider these 10 page arguments activity tho..... i know damn sure i don't waste my time reading them lol its just clutter

You read every post I write, don’t lie

[~RustyGunZ~]

Most do

Feel bad for them

Regardless it passes the time for me and I rarely if ever feel I looked like an idiot so eh

You think dullboys bit in that thread was good so I’m not sure I really look at your gold standard as a good indicator of boarding anymore. Boarding might just be dead though.

** was to bags not des

[Ghost1]

honestly dullboy pulled u apart in every portion of that exchange i stopped reading cuz it was getting embarrassing

u can agree or disagree w my standard of whats quality on the site and whats not but as long as i consistently put out the best quality whenever i so choose ill maintain that authority

u are literally the only person who views yourself as the victor in your petty exchanges.....that should be an indicator

the other issue is that its really all u do here? u tried to and or are trying to revive the podcast but that's a flop and probably because no one likes u? lol i don't say that to be a prick but just as a genuine observation.

if ur going to waste your time here why not contribute something worthwhile?

[Ghost1]

You read every post I write, don’t lie

TL DR

[~RustyGunZ~]

honestly dullboy pulled u apart in every portion of that exchange i stopped reading cuz it was getting embarrassing

u can agree or disagree w my standard of whats quality on the site and whats not but as long as i consistently put out the best quality whenever i so choose ill maintain that authority

u are literally the only person who views yourself as the victor in your petty exchanges.....that should be an indicator

the other issue is that its really all u do here? u tried to and or are trying to revive the podcast but that's a flop and probably because no one likes u? lol i don't say that to be a prick but just as a genuine observation.

if ur going to waste your time here why not contribute something worthwhile?

You haven’t really done anything worthwhile in ages tbh lol

He was super cringey and I responded with one liners

You don’t understand what’s going on with the podcast because you blow it off as a revival of your thing which it isn’t

You’re just a negative Nancy

[Destroyer]

Repainting the den black over the lime green right now

[Ghost1]

You haven’t really done anything worthwhile in ages tbh lol

He was super cringey and I responded with one liners

You don’t understand what’s going on with the podcast because you blow it off as a revival of your thing which it isn’t

You’re just a negative Nancy

apparently im not the only one blowing it off is the point.

an word u right i been mad busy honestly.....the current state of things is pretty uninspiring as well

[Ghost1]

Repainting the den black over the lime green right now

https://media0.giphy.com/media/Pch8FiF08bc1G/200.gif

[~RustyGunZ~]

Repainting the den black over the lime green right now

Go with avocado and leave the curtains open after changing the locks.

Trust me, I’m the king of petty.

[~RustyGunZ~]

apparently im not the only one blowing it off is the point.

an word u right i been mad busy honestly.....the current state of things is pretty uninspiring as well

It’s meant to be a starter project to collab with people here that have talents. It was an easy first step. I don’t plan on NC becoming this collective I have in mind, I just have boarded with people here and recognize some people just need help/motivation to do something creative for more than the NC community.

It’s not meant to become a huge thing, and it’s reception on Nc strictly would be super irrelevant if it even was.

The fact that stuff didn’t occur to you, considering you’re a smart dude, means you haven’t listened to it at all. So you’re blindly hating and assuming things off maybe half of the reception? A lot of it is good. Lots of people involved.

For example though it got sharp and I actually talking about creative stuff just from talking about segments for the podcast and we’re working on a small project together now. I think Inno has found a voice as ell and could do a lot of cool stuff. Etc etc.

Being close minded is cool when you’re bags, but as ghost1 you’ve just kind of been here and you seem like you’re finding faith and happiness so maybe it’s time to not be such a grumpy cunt for the sake of your persona?

Idk seems like you’re in a middle phase like I was before killing the Scheinberg persona.

[Ghost1]

nah not grumpy at all, ur analysis of my person is inaccurate, probably because youre trying to compare us, ive never had a persona on here....you stated that schienberg was a complete character creation.....bags/ghost1 etc has always been and always will be me....exaggerated to degrees at times but theyre always me so i don't need to go out of my way to make my actions conform to the personas....the personas conform to my actions because they are one and the same.

your podcast doesn't appeal to me because of the topics and participants involved. i don't consider any of you to be more knowledgeable in any arena that other, more reputable sources would be and aside from that none of you strike me as interesting or intriguing at all so its just not something i plan to invest my time in.

[~RustyGunZ~]

nah not grumpy at all, ur analysis of my person is inaccurate, probably because youre trying to compare us, ive never had a persona on here....you stated that schienberg was a complete character creation.....bags/ghost1 etc has always been and always will be me....exaggerated to degrees at times but theyre always me so i don't need to go out of my way to make my actions conform to the personas....the personas conform to my actions because they are one and the same.

your podcast doesn't appeal to me because of the topics and participants involved. i don't consider any of you to be more knowledgeable in any arena that other, more reputable sources would be and aside from that none of you strike me as interesting or intriguing at all so its just not something i plan to invest my time in.

Sorry you typecast peoples intellect on boarding. That’s a character flaw you should work on. It’s more a community thing and flexing talents with each other at this point.

Bags was a persona in a sense. At the peak of your bapridkg you made up/exaggerated stories for golden threads and did the whole all caps/long post graphically insulting people shtick. It isn’t how you acted in the real world.

[dull boy]

Knuck is that annoying kid who gets hit in the face with a rock for being an annoying stubborn faggot but then plays the rest of the pick up game with a bloody face like he didn’t just get hit in the face with a rock.

Idc if we’re cool, guys. I hate y’all. Let’s keep playing, tho. ‘Nother rock hits him. He argues for 45 minutes about how he was right about not caring about getting hit with the rock. Meanwhile everyone is so sick of his shit he gets stoned to death but gets up and keeps arguing. Not even acknowledging the blood. Or that he’s dead.

It’s annoying at its core. You’re annoying. You told me yesterday no one likes me lol That’s not really cool, but cool, I guess? Seems no one likes you and you’re impossibly stubborn and as I’ve just colorfully illustrated you don’t know when you look embarrassing.

[dull boy]

You see me and appear to see this forum as a place of personas. Like Bags, I’ve never had a persona, really. People wanna saddle me with the emo suicidal shit and I get it, but fuck that’s so lazy that when it’s mentioned I just feel bad for the person.

Like you mentioned me dropping a pallet on someone lol Told me I was mad and flustered. Which is all a tactic you use, which is odd because you go on and on seeming clearly flustered.

You’re gross.

[Ghost1]

ud have to have known me in the real world to make that case tho

im not sure i need to refute that point...since i just stated it was inaccurate prior to you trying to dispute it.... but i could if u need me to?

as far as type casting people based on what they say? hey....if anyone wants to be judged on higher standards they are welcome to perform at them...otherwise they run the risk of being perceived by how they act and what they say. charge me if u want but the reality is if you or anyone else wants to be valuated accurately then its your job to present yourself accordingly.

i don't feel like we are really having an actual conversation tho, you seem to be more concerned with winning the exchange which is of zero concern or value to me.

god bless young knuckle.

[dull boy]

Also I can’t recall knowing anything about you before yesterday.

[dull boy]

All proud of some persona ego I guess you had words with? Schendiagel? Bragging about it almost. Mentioned it here. Mentioned it in your discussion with me. Tried comparing the confidence I have in my writing to him.

You’re weird. Weird. Gross. Annoying.

What are you doing?

[~RustyGunZ~]

You’re assessment reeks of social anxiety lol

[Diode]

i like sharp eh's a cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything

[dull boy]

You’re assessment reeks of social anxiety lol

Vintage Knuck

[~RustyGunZ~]

ud have to have known me in the real world to make that case tho

im not sure i need to refute that point...since i just stated it was inaccurate prior to you trying to dispute it.... but i could if u need me to?

as far as type casting people based on what they say? hey....if anyone wants to be judged on higher standards they are welcome to perform at them...otherwise they run the risk of being perceived by how they act and what they say. charge me if u want but the reality is if you or anyone else wants to be valuated accurately then its your job to present yourself accordingly.

i don't feel like we are really having an actual conversation tho, you seem to be more concerned with winning the exchange which is of zero concern or value to me.

god bless young knuckle.

I just talk to talk lol

I’m just sayin don’t call something bad or a failure when you don’t know anything about it and more than less of the active members are participating in it. You and a few others that seem to be that core topical/ole mystery groups message peeps not respecting anyone else’s opinions cus you feel like you have enough opinions you respect around you doesn’t make it a shitty thing. It makes it a thing you aren’t interested in. Just say that instead of shitting on it in a way that made you look like a jerkoff for not understanding it.

Or don’t either way your lack of viewership remains a lack of viewership and therefore your not really relevant to its context remotely ja feel

[~RustyGunZ~]

Vintage Knuck

Lol @ correcting you’re/your. I type at you quickly with no checking grammar on a phone. What kind of social outcast is a nazi grammar on a forum in 2018 lmao

I gave you one liners that fueled your rage while reading 150 pages for my interpersonal communication class. I literally could have addressed you in textbook manner while reading the text book but that wouldn’t be fun. You’re not on my level sadboy.

[dull boy]

Lol @ correcting you’re/your. I type at you quickly with no checking grammar on a phone. What kind of social outcast is a nazi grammar on a forum in 2018 lmao

I gave you one liners that fueled your rage while reading 150 pages for my interpersonal communication class. I literally could have addressed you in textbook manner while reading the text book but that wouldn’t be fun. You’re not on my level sadboy.

Yes. Mmhmm.

[Inno]

Y’all niggahs gonna throws fifths or what?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Yes. Mmhmm.

Glad you’re realizing my superiority. Thank you for converting.

[dull boy]

Y’all niggahs gonna throws fifths or what?

Y’all niggahs gonna throws fifths or what?

I wouldn’t talk to Knuck any longer than I had to irl. He’d be arguing with me as I’m half way down the street in my car listening to NPR. I’d be home and he’d still be out there on the corner talking to himself about how he can’t lose and isn’t wrong.


Starting to think he has assburgers. Really.

[dull boy]

Glad you’re realizing my superiority. Thank you for converting.

You’re welcome. What’s your name, buddy? I’d like to use your real name from here on out, if that’s okay.

[~RustyGunZ~]

You’re welcome. What’s your name, buddy? I’d like to use your real name from here on out, if that’s okay.

Seth. Your name is Dallas?

[dull boy]

Seth. Your name is Dallas?

Yup.

[Inno]

Ohh this is how pornos start

[dull boy]

Ohh this is how pornos start

With two dudes exchanging names? KINDA PORN YOU WATCHING

[~RustyGunZ~]

Yup.

“Well, that’s Dallas”
“Dallas indeed.”

Great name.

[Diode]

With two dudes exchanging names? KINDA PORN YOU WATCHING

sraL

[Diode]

“Well, that’s Dallas”
“Dallas indeed.”

Great name.

Finny did him

[Inno]

With two dudes exchanging names? KINDA PORN YOU WATCHING

Lol touché

[Amen]

I wouldn’t talk to Knuck any longer than I had to irl. He’d be arguing with me as I’m half way down the street in my car listening to NPR. I’d be home and he’d still be out there on the corner talking to himself about how he can’t lose and isn’t wrong.


Starting to think he has assburgers. Really.

Lmfao