View Full Version : Aaron Vs. Brady
This debate is usually done be comparing stats from 2008 or 9
But the thing I find people do the most is not compare TD/IN and Comp% from 2008 or 9 for Tom Brady
Tom Brady from 2008-2017 has less TD’s, but that’s about it for notable differences.
Tom’s TD/IN is 3.94 if you only look at 2008-17 or 9-17
Aaron’s 4.01 or so from 8-17 and like 4.1 from 9-17
Tom’s Comp% is 64% (these aren’t exact numbers but I’m only off by .2 or so)
Aaron’s 65.4 from 8 a bit higher from 9.
That and Touchdowns the only thing Aaron’s leading in.
Aaron has 77 In and 23 lost fumbles for 100 turn overs
Tom has 74 In and 16 lost fumbles for 90 turn overs
Tom has more yards but also more attempts.
Now I feel looking over Tom Brady’s career for his TD/IN and completition% isn’t quite fair.
Tom Brady’s two best receivers from 2001-2006 are Troy Brown and Branch, who combined for 70 TD’s and around 13,000 yards across their entire careers ( less than half of which was played with Brady)
Troy played for Tom until 06 and a game.
Deion played until 05 then went to Seattle and then went back to England in 2010
When Tom Brady got the elite receiving staff he did in 07 he went 16-0, and from 07-17 he’s had a 4.1 TD/IN and higher Comp%,
I agree Aaron’s not had an 07 receiving staff, but with Edleman n Gronk’s injuries I think from 08-17 their WR cores been the same in talent
Mr. Faggot
07-21-2018, 11:24 PM
Brady is the greatest ever.
Arod isn't top,10
Pharaohs Army
07-21-2018, 11:31 PM
Rodgers is better. Period.
Mr. Faggot
07-21-2018, 11:49 PM
Rodgers is better. Period.
5 rings say different
I am mryou
kannon
07-22-2018, 01:26 AM
Aaron Rodgers is the most skilled quarterback of all time.
Tom Brady is the winningest quarterback.
Stats don't tell the whole story, no matter who they favor. If there was a minute left on the clock and we were down by 4, I would want Aaron Rodgers leading the drive.
I also think Mike McCarthy would have lost his job years ago if he didn't have Aaron. If Tom Brady retired 5 years ago, Belichick would still be the HC for the Pats. Speaks to the people around Tom.
Also, GB has had absolute shit defense for the last 4-5 years. The loss to Seattle in 14 was due to their def/special teams. Arizona in 15 was defense in OT. Atlanta 16 was injury (they were literally playing a nose tackle at right guard), and defense (they let Julio clock 180 yards and two tds).
Also, I'm incredibly partial.
Mr. Faggot
07-22-2018, 08:53 AM
Brady is a system qb
Yet the system doesn't work without him...
You going to tell me cassell went 11-5 ...true they didn't make any noise.....you going to say Jimmy g won 2 games...true but whole season...no noise would of been made....
Brady is Goat man......I hate the ***...but it is what it is.....
5 rings man. ......with. Franchise that has zero without him
Not entertaining this shit.
I’d rather discuss Lebron vs Jordan again.
uh-oh
07-22-2018, 10:19 AM
aaron rodgers is great
brady is better.
aaron rodgers has a slightly better skillset, evading the pass rush, comfortability in the pocket, finding the open guy, hitting guys on the money etc. slightly better. but brady is better at diagnosing defenses, just more cerebral from the X's and O's perspective, and he raises the level of play of those around him. granted coaching plays a part in the latter but yea. so while rodgers has a better skillset, its not better ENOUGH to outweigh brady's IQ and leadership.
Kill Spree
07-22-2018, 10:30 AM
Not entertaining this shit.
I’d rather discuss Lebron vs Jordan again.
They’ll never get it
Mr. Faggot
07-22-2018, 10:36 AM
Matt Ryan is the best QB with no ring
Tom Brady’s accomplishments will always be better than Aaron’s, but not just because of SB,
This year idk if there was a better player then TB 12 to be MVP,
In 10 he was the first person to get all the votes for MVP, and in 07 there was no question. In 11 Aaron deserved it but a point could be made Drew Brees deserved it more. 5.5 thousand yards, 46 TDs and a defensive worse than Aaron’s.
In 14 JJ Watt had 5 defensive TDs, 2 picks, 20.5 sacks and took a 2-14 team
To 9-7. He deserved MVP more than Aaron,
TB12 has one season a point can be made otherwise than him winning MVP,
Aaron has 1 really close MVP and a snub.
In the 14 NFC Championship, Aaron had a terrible performance, he wasn’t good, he choked that game. It was ultimately the defensive’s fault they lost, they choked harder than Aaron. But Tom Brady’s team choked too in SB42, a failing offensive line, dropped interception, lucky catch, and dropped pass that Randy Moss probably could’ve caught to put them in field goal range.
Wes Welker’s dropped Pass and a defensive unable to make a stop lost him the other Giants SB. Bad reffing lost him the 06 divional round, he’s lost games that weren’t his fault to.
Matt Ryan is the best QB with no ring
Dan Marino
Mr. Faggot
07-22-2018, 12:32 PM
Dan Marino
I mean active....I should of been clearr
uh-oh
07-22-2018, 12:33 PM
alex smith>
I wanna say Carson Wentz, and I wanna say Philip Rivers, and I’m going to say Jimmy G, because I don’t count two rings as a backup.
uh-oh
07-22-2018, 01:30 PM
phillip rivers is overrated as shit. jimmy G hasn't played enough but has played well.
same with carson wentz but i like his argument ALOT more than jimmy G. wentz was basically the hands down MVP before he went down.
Mr. Faggot
07-22-2018, 01:53 PM
Yall believe them guys are better than Matt ice?
Ryan stats stand up against anybody...wins is up there. ...he has a MVP...he was bad coaching away from a ring....though he played a role in the debacle.....
They’ll never get it
I know.
Yall believe them guys are better than Matt ice?
Ryan stats stand up against anybody...wins is up there. ...he has a MVP...he was bad coaching away from a ring....though he played a role in the debacle.....
Look at Matt Ryan 2016 (MVP) to 2017 (20TD-12INT)
He needs a brilliant OC to do anything. There are at least 3 active QB's without a ring better than him right now
Pharaohs Army
07-22-2018, 04:52 PM
Brady is great but he's no Rodgers. And he shouldn't have won the MVP lasr
last year, it should've been Gurley.
Brady is great but he's no Rodgers. And he shouldn't have won the MVP lasr
last year, it should've been Gurley.
Lol he's no Rogers...
Shut the fuck up lol...
Mr. Faggot
07-22-2018, 05:26 PM
Look at Matt Ryan 2016 (MVP) to 2017 (20TD-12INT)
He needs a brilliant OC to do anything. There are at least 3 active QB's without a ring better than him right now
Who
BodySnatcher
07-22-2018, 07:32 PM
wentz was basically the hands down MVP before he went down.
Fly Eagles Fly
This is easy why even the discussion, Brady is the most winning but not the best. If you put Rodgers on the Pats, good lord. They might have not lost a SB since beating the Eagles a decade or so ago
Also, 7 QB’s currently starting have rings
Eli
Brady
Aaron
Ben
Joe
Brees
Russel
So saying he’s the best out of 25 when 5-6 haven’t played enough to tell puts him at 19th in the league
Also 5 or more QBs
Deshaun, Wentz, Goff, Jimmy G, Derrick
Can’t be counted cus they haven’t played enough
7 have rings, that leaves 20 QBs and I’m not sure Matt’s the best out of those.
Mr. Faggot
07-22-2018, 09:16 PM
Also 5 or more QBs
Deshaun, Wentz, Goff, Jimmy G, Derrick
Can’t be counted cus they haven’t played enough
7 have rings, that leaves 20 QBs and I’m not sure Matt’s the best out of those.
Norway Matt Ryan isn't top 10...
Fly Eagles Fly
This is easy why even the discussion, Brady is the most winning but not the best. If you put Rodgers on the Pats, good lord. They might have not lost a SB since beating the Eagles a decade or so ago
Lol you’re retarded.
Brady by far the GOAT.
BodySnatcher
07-22-2018, 10:03 PM
Lol you’re retarded.
Brady by far the GOAT.
Bro if Beldsoe didn't get hurt he would played for a handful of years...and brady would have been whos knows....Brady is the goat, a system bred goat because of the head coach and organization. I'm saying Rodgers is talent wise better qb and would have thrive better than Brady if he was on Pats not knocking Brady here buddy.
uh-oh
07-22-2018, 10:35 PM
I disagree.
Belicheck owes as much of his success to brady as the other way around. People forget he is still in the QB room when his stand ins made it look easy.
I despise him. But saying rodgers is more talented is wrong. He may have a slightly more talented arm and slightly better pocket awareness, but again its not that much better, to where it outweighs all of the things brady is better at. Gamplanning, dissecting defenses etc on top of his abilities as an elite pocket passer himself
BodySnatcher
07-22-2018, 10:50 PM
good points...but I think the system is greater than the QB in this instance, he is the best ever no doubt but how good would he have been on another team? Belichick and Bledsoe would have been doing is almost as good as Brady for a few more years is he didn't get hurt. Tom was not amazing obviously since he was a 6th or 7th rounder but when he got in the league he was thrown into the position and worked hard af to get to where he is now, Rodger is naturally more talented at the position. I guess it almost makes me respect Tom more, fuck.
Brady is what, like 40? & still throw like he a freshman...GOAT imo.
uh-oh
07-23-2018, 06:13 AM
good points...but I think the system is greater than the QB in this instance, he is the best ever no doubt but how good would he have been on another team? Belichick and Bledsoe would have been doing is almost as good as Brady for a few more years is he didn't get hurt. Tom was not amazing obviously since he was a 6th or 7th rounder but when he got in the league he was thrown into the position and worked hard af to get to where he is now, Rodger is naturally more talented at the position. I guess it almost makes me respect Tom more, fuck.
word its just difficult to look at situations like that, because both wouldve been ruined if they played for the browns for instance. aaron rodgers wouldve failed out like all the other talented prospects that cleveland ruined. most qb's that became jokes playing for them were highly regarded coming out of college as well.
alot of what held brady back was intangibles though, his size and basically passing the "eye test". he didn't have the strongest arm, didn't have alot of tape, looked like a dweeb etc. rodgers had a ton of tape out of cal, was supposed to be that dude
its tough to judge alot of it. i mean its easy to judge qb's based off where they end up though, but to what extent is the question. would matt ryan have found success in baltimore? would flacco have more success in atlanta with all the weapons they've had? they both couldve washed out the league for all we know if their positions were swapped.
all we can really judge them on is what they've done where they are at. but word i hear you
good points...but I think the system is greater than the QB in this instance, he is the best ever no doubt but how good would he have been on another team? Belichick and Bledsoe would have been doing is almost as good as Brady for a few more years is he didn't get hurt. Tom was not amazing obviously since he was a 6th or 7th rounder but when he got in the league he was thrown into the position and worked hard af to get to where he is now, Rodger is naturally more talented at the position. I guess it almost makes me respect Tom more, fuck.
No.
Brady has a drive to win. He loves the game of football. While Drew played for the pay check.
It's a fact - not many have the drive Brady does. Reason why he's the GOAT.
Mr. Faggot
07-23-2018, 02:27 PM
No.
Brady has a drive to win. He loves the game of football. While Drew played for the pay check.
It's a fact - not many have the drive Brady does. Reason why he's the GOAT.
Close thread. All that need tone said
Drew played for a check? He could of easily left and signed with a shit team for 8-9 million more per year lol get bradys nuts out of your throat. Pats could win 11 games with dalton
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