EPISODE 7 PRELUDE

[veritas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIxvuq-IGrY

[Inno]

Lmao @gift cards and coupons

[Hush]

Excited and eager , I remain

[Diode]

this is not my favorite version of you

[Witty]

Chuck Taylor's...Jello...Jesus

Lmao

Enjoyed this.

[veritas]

this is not my favorite version of you

Elab

[Hush]

Remember the future


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0HURo2mEj0

[PancakeBrah]

How much does Veritas deadlift?

[Diode]

Elab

i prefer you more grounded.

[Destroyer]

Yo, explain “the humanity of time” to me bro

[veritas]

How much does Veritas deadlift?

I came close to 400 but my form was crap and I think that is why my back is hurting. Why do you ask?

[veritas]

Yo, explain “the humanity of time” to me bro

The emotional component of every moment. How some moments are greater or worse than others. Why do you ask?

[PancakeBrah]

I came close to 400 but my form was crap and I think that is why my back is hurting. Why do you ask?

I like to have a general idea of what every member on the site deadlifts.

[Destroyer]

The emotional component of every moment. How some moments are greater or worse than others. Why do you ask?

I found it interesting to ponder. Is there any humanity in time? I mean, in a sense, we invented time. So there must be. But, on a long enough timeline, there aren’t even humans anymore. Or if you go back far enough. So, I think there must be humans alive in any given time for time to have any humanity.

[Inno]

I found it interesting to ponder. Is there any humanity in time? I mean, in a sense, we invented time. So there must be. But, on a long enough timeline, there aren’t even humans anymore. Or if you go back far enough. So, I think there must be humans alive in any given time for time to have any humanity.

Do you solely believe time exist becuase we “invented” it in a sense

Legit question

[PancakeBrah]

I think we're thinking too literally on this one, Des. Time, even as a construct of humans, has it's own humanity. We didnt give it to time, it happened naturally.

[veritas]

Your above statement while appreciated contradicts itself. I say this not to fault you. I commend you for thinking it through. You said that time is a human creation but since there were not always humans there could be no humanity of time.

Perhaps I should have said the humanity of this present time, Jude?

[veritas]

I like to have a general idea of what every member on the site deadlifts.

Is my numbers meeting of your approval. I have slimmed down to about 187lbs body weight.

[Destroyer]

Your above statement while appreciated contradicts itself. I say this not to fault you. I commend you for thinking it through. You said that time is a human creation but since there were not always humans there could be no humanity of time.

Perhaps I should have said the humanity of this present time, Jude?

I think the way you worded it is apropos for what you meant by it.
I was looking at it more like does time itself have humanity. That’s an interesting thing to ponder.
To, inno, sort of. Like, time as we measure it certainly is a fully human construct and also is dependent on our geographical place in the universe in relation to our sun. But surely time exists outside of our own perception of it.

[veritas]

I think the way you worded it is apropos for what you meant by it.
I was looking at it more like does time itself have humanity. That’s an interesting thing to ponder.
To, inno, sort of. Like, time as we measure it certainly is a fully human construct and also is dependent on our geographical place in the universe in relation to our sun. But surely time exists outside of our own perception of it.

Apropos sounded sexy boi.

It is interesting. The time of humanity exists simultaneous with the humanity of time. Are they separate? Or forever bound as long as the former exists?

[Inno]

I think the way you worded it is apropos for what you meant by it.
I was looking at it more like does time itself have humanity. That’s an interesting thing to ponder.
To, inno, sort of. Like, time as we measure it certainly is a fully human construct and also is dependent on our geographical place in the universe in relation to our sun. But surely time exists outside of our own perception of it.

Don’t you think if time is infinite

We didn’t create it but simply discovered it?

Btw interesting ducking question you posed lol

[Destroyer]

Also interesting to ponder the question whether time does exist outside of our perception of it. We truly have no reason to believe it does, other than it seems to follow logically. But we have no method of measuring it or even quantifying it on that level. It seems to fall into one of those things we just likely won’t ever know or understand.

[Diode]

this is my picture of your conversation rn:

https://i.gifer.com/1CAp.gif

i wonder if veritas enjoyed this movie

[Diode]

Don’t you think if time is infinite

We didn’t create it but simply discovered it?

Btw interesting ducking question you posed lol

Time is most certainly not infinite.

(before the google knives come out, i minored in astrophysics. it's the only math i'm good at.)

[Frankie the Machine]

When we going to talk about the 2nd law of thermodynamics tho

[Sharp]

This is the kind of conversation that helps me not miss weed

[Inno]

Time is most certainly not infinite.

(before the google knives come out, i minored in astrophysics. it's the only math i'm good at.)

Elaborate good sir

This may be ignorant but has it scientifically been proven time hasn’t exist beyond our comprehension?

You saying time came into existence because of us?

FYI: I’m completely sober lol

[Diode]

Elaborate good sir

This may be ignorant but isn’t scientifically proven time hasn’t exist beyond our comprehension?

You saying time came into existence because of us?

Time is a measurable aspect of existence. A dimension - with a finite start and end. No different than 3-dimensional space.

Though I suppose your thoughts on entropy vs. singularity and string theory vs. standard theory of relativity influence your perspective on the matter greatly.

[Destroyer]

Entropy is what, degradation, right? And singularity would be like returning to a single point like everything folding back into itself?
I didn’t minor in astrophysics so bear with me

[Pharaohs Army]

Time is a measurable aspect of existence. A dimension - with a finite start and end. No different than 3-dimensional space.

Though I suppose your thoughts on entropy vs. singularity and string theory vs. standard theory of relativity influence your perspective on the matter greatly.
Where's the end? Or should I say when

[Inno]

Where's the end? Or should I say when

Diode

This is what I’m leaning towards

If time isn’t infinite then how do we know when it stops?

When humans cease to exist?

[veritas]

It is also true that there exists a place so far out in the universe where the light wave carrying the information of your birth or the time of your birth has not yet reached. So right now there exists a place where you do not yet exist.

[Destroyer]

If you seize to exist, I feel really bad for you

[veritas]

When did time start diode?

[Inno]

If you seize to exist, I feel really bad for you

Fuck you

[~RustyGunZ~]

When did time start diode?

When did God begin?

Both answers are leaps of faith and cannot be supported by facts if you dig deep enough

[Diode]

Entropy is what, degradation, right? And singularity would be like returning to a single point like everything folding back into itself?
I didn’t minor in astrophysics so bear with me

Correct.

[veritas]

Correct.

folded back into itself into what?

what does the "itself" now exist in?

[Diode]

Where's the end? Or should I say when

You have to stop thinking of time as a construct and more as a measure to reach the theoretical "end". Time is merely a plane of existence no different than up, down, forward, and back. When you get into string theory, you are at "present" existing in many places all at once (such is the nature of quantum physics)! Fun mindfuckery.

Under the singularity, it's when singularity is achieved.

Under entropy (aka heat death of the universe), it is when all matter ceases to produce energy/move/etc. (thermodynamic equilibrium).

[Diode]

It is also true that there exists a place so far out in the universe where the light wave carrying the information of your birth or the time of your birth has not yet reached. So right now there exists a place where you do not yet exist.

There are trillions and trillions and trillions of places where this is more true than not! A mere light year is already one "year" difference from your present existence and the nearest stars (let alone galaxy) are 4.33 light years away.

We mostly don't exist :)

[Diode]

When did God begin?

Both answers are leaps of faith and cannot be supported by facts if you dig deep enough

Now this is where the real fun begins. I'd prefer to link sources to far more qualified people than I to offer all the different theoretical answers to this question.

My core personal understanding is that the human need for the concept of "zero/nothing" is at direct odds with an answer.

Time simply began and will end.

[Amen]

This is the kind of conversation that helps me not miss weed

Lol word.

[Diode]

folded back into itself into what?

what does the "itself" now exist in?

Into itself. It exists within itself.

Light reading for both heat death and singularity here, from the man himself:

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html

[Amen]

Damn, a lot to read.

Going to add to book threads, once done. Is there an audio version? LOL

[~RustyGunZ~]

Now this is where the real fun begins. I'd prefer to link sources to far more qualified people than I to offer all the different theoretical answers to this question.

My core personal understanding is that the human need for the concept of "zero/nothing" is at direct odds with an answer.

Time simply began and will end.

We’ll never know til we’re gone

Maybe not even then

[Diode]

We’ll never know til we’re gone

Maybe not even then

All about perspective. It's a demon-haunted world, after all.

[veritas]

Into itself. It exists within itself.

Light reading for both heat death and singularity here, from the man himself:

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html

Within itself within what?

[Ghost1]

lmao

[Diode]

Within itself within what?

You should read the linked article.

Fair?

[Destroyer]

It’s the same as what it exists within now, bro
It’s all there is whether at a single point or extrapolated out into what it currently is
It’s not like there’s the universe and then just a bunch of empty space outside of it
It’s what is. All of it

[veritas]

You should read the linked article.

Fair?

Fair. I did tho. After he said something about events before the Big Bang have no observational consequence I find it nonsensical. Is that fair?

[Diode]

Fair. I did tho. After he said something about events before the Big Bang have no observational consequence I find it nonsensical. Is that fair?

It's fair for you to have that opinion. Everyone's entitled to their own.

I'd encourage deeper reading to understand what Prof. Hawking means as observation is a key component of quantum physics.

[veritas]

Bro. I understand. Understanding that does not negate the validity of my question. What did the Big Bang bang out of?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Space-time continuum is curved

Have you really not read hawking or Einstein?

[Pharaohs Army]

Bro. I understand. Understanding that does not negate the validity of my question. What did the Big Bang bang out of?

And now we get into the question of...What is Nothing?

[PancakeBrah]

Real pumped for the podcast.

[Destroyer]

Bro. I understand. Understanding that does not negate the validity of my question. What did the Big Bang bang out of?

It was like... way dense

[Pharaohs Army]

1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

[Pharaohs Army]

I'm not religious at all, I just wanted to see how Genesis worded it.