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uh-oh
08-29-2018, 06:18 PM
on mostly everything?

even when having all the facts i'm saying.

its usually political topics and SUCH, but even just current event type issues and shit. its so strange that people can view something and have wildly differing views on it.

the most recent i've been seeing it is the louie ck stuff.

i just don't get it.

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boof
08-29-2018, 09:11 PM
oh bro what's your stance on louie ck i cant wait

Big Bolo
08-29-2018, 09:24 PM
Yeah when your done with boofs question, do you think the earth is flat? And is the sky really blue because of the water we have on our planet? Or was that something my teacher just told me because she's stupid?

uh-oh
08-29-2018, 09:25 PM
that he's a creep for sure, but i don't see why he shouldn't be allowed to continue doing standup.

when the years old allegations came back up he promptly apologised, admitted his wrongdoing and took the public scorn and shame along with losing millions of dollars.

he didn't commit any crimes

the whole he shouldn't have a career anymore thing is what bothers me.

if you can't be a fan of a pasty ginger mexican who wacks off in front of people no one is forcing you to buy/watch his specials or attend his shows

but i think you already knew my opinion of it.

this thread is mainly about how we can have such different opinions and both feel 100 percent in the right.

uh-oh
08-29-2018, 09:28 PM
Yeah when your done with boofs question, do you think the earth is flat? And is the sky really blue because of the water we have on our planet? Or was that something my teacher just told me because she's stupid?

the sky being blue because the ocean reflecting off the atmosphere or whatever is legit. allegedly. pretty sure i learned that.

the earth is round. also if you were to shrink the earth down to the size of a cue ball, it would be more smooth than the cue ball. even with all the mountains and ocean trenches. basically if you blew a cue ball up to the size of earth it would have mountains and valleys much more crazy in terms of size. yet it seems perfectly smooth because of our size in relation.

that could be more horseshit some science guy spewed that stuck with me though.

Ghost1
08-29-2018, 09:32 PM
Righteous mind by jewy jew psychologist the jew Dr

Read it u ztupid fuck

Ex0lains the answer to ur question in like 500 pages ONLY

Big Bolo
08-29-2018, 09:33 PM
Damn, good responses you seem like an intelligent man. Should Roseanne have been cxld? She didn't commit any crimes either.

uh-oh
08-29-2018, 09:46 PM
i didn't have a problem with her being cancelled, i wouldnt have called for it lmao who gives a shit really. but i would be against her being shunned from participating in society

completely different situation though.

but in comparison i don't have a problem with louie catching heat for his actions, its just to what point. shunning him from society seems a little harsh for what he did.

michael che probably had the best take on this.

but again this isn't to debate any of these issues as much as how we can take these stances and feel fully in the right. but be SO opposite on the spectrum.

Ghost1
08-29-2018, 10:09 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion/dp/0307455777

~RustyGunZ~
08-29-2018, 11:47 PM
uh oh is right about louis

people are sheep though. if they lean left because they're passionate about 30% of the lefts logic, they will side 100% most of the time with the left to seperate themselves from the right.

same goes for the right.

I know a lot of people that are pro life and therefore go full conservative, since liberals are murderous monsters.

Liberal #3421 likes gay people and minorities not being shit on, so they think socialism is how positive and free economies work

Then us in betweeners are shit on for not being sheep, because how dare we not side with them/those when those/them are so evil. HOW CAN WE SLEEP AT NIGHT

and it doesn't help that gary johnson is the libertarian face of america to most people

and it doesn't help any other third parties don't really have faces anymore. i like some of jill steins ideas but no one takes her seriously because the liberals that would like her are to busy feeling the bern

Chill Phil
08-29-2018, 11:58 PM
People generally go off of how something makes them feel mostly. Regardless of facts being a direct contradiction.

Sharp
08-30-2018, 12:02 AM
no one takes the green party seriously because when they do something different from the democrats, it's full retard hippie dippie shit

selections from their 2014 platform:

Greens support a wide-range of health care services, not just traditional medicine which too often emphasizes
“a medical arms race” that relies upon high-tech intervention, surgical techniques and costly pharmaceuticals.
Chronic conditions are often best cured by alternative medicine


The Green Party calls for permanent border passes to
all citizens of Mexico and Canada


half a page or reparations, which strike me as disingenuous progressive baiting, but the Ta-nehisi Coates article makes me think some form of reparations to living people who got shafted by Jim Crowe/discriminatory neighborhood associations is viable


Gary Johnson is the face of the libertarian party to half of the country. To the other half, it's the people who booed him for saying he believes driver's licenses are a good thing


I'm waiting for a third party that isn't a joke too, but we're not there yet


boof, knuck, whoever else, let's fucking gooooo

Big Bolo
08-30-2018, 12:03 AM
I mean really I don't even get into real life conversations about this shit, not because I'm misinformed or stupid. It's just 85% of the people that try are stupid and only have facts that the news has given them and didn't further any research. I end up most of the time just saying "I'm not talking about this anymore" and walk away. Mostly at school, you would think after high school people would be smarter.

Anywho I see you make some great points, I never see this kind of shit effecting my day to day though or life at all really. I'm going to school to repair medical scopes/lasers and such, that field is going no where but up. So really I look at it like fuck them ALL I'm going to make something of myself....get money, maybe a family once I'm making at least 100k a year. I don't know exactly why I'm typing all this not to imply "oh who cares about that shit" more like it's good to be informed but why stress it, fuck'em ALL. WORD

~RustyGunZ~
08-30-2018, 12:06 AM
no one takes the green party seriously because when they do something different from the democrats, it's full retard hippie dippie shit

selections from their 2014 platform:

Greens support a wide-range of health care services, not just traditional medicine which too often emphasizes
“a medical arms race” that relies upon high-tech intervention, surgical techniques and costly pharmaceuticals.
Chronic conditions are often best cured by alternative medicine


The Green Party calls for permanent border passes to
all citizens of Mexico and Canada


half a page or reparations, which strike me as disingenuous progressive baiting, but the Ta-nehisi Coates article makes me think some form of reparations to living people who got shafted by Jim Crowe/discriminatory neighborhood associations is viable


Gary Johnson is the face of the libertarian party to half of the country. To the other half, it's the people who booed him for saying he believes driver's licenses are a good thing


I'm waiting for a third party that isn't a joke too, but we're not there yet


boof, knuck, whoever else, let's fucking gooooo

I'm doubtful half the population that even knows about libertarians see the face being people booing gary the gawd lol

maybe 10%

Sharp
08-30-2018, 12:07 AM
All I'm saying though

Don't just look at everyone else and ask why they're misinformed

Make sure you're thinking in terms of 'us' and 'we' since the odds are each one of us is fairly close to the average

~RustyGunZ~
08-30-2018, 12:08 AM
I am no longer a card carrying libertarian though, first year I haven't donated since I could in 2009.

It's just a refuge for republicucks now

Sharp
08-30-2018, 12:10 AM
I'm doubtful half the population that even knows about libertarians see the face being people booing gary the gawd lol

maybe 10%

I think if they know enough about the libertarians they know about that split... 15%?

And if they know about Bill Weld there's a good chance they know about him endorsing Hillary Clinton before the election lol

~RustyGunZ~
08-30-2018, 12:21 AM
bill weld is a shit head

Destroyer
08-30-2018, 07:34 AM
Louis still a pussy for going back on stage and not even doing a bit about masturbating in fromt of peope

~RustyGunZ~
08-30-2018, 08:22 AM
Louis still a pussy for going back on stage and not even doing a bit about masturbating in fromt of peope

Lmao

Has he done any since?

Hush
08-30-2018, 08:33 AM
You guys know a lot of stuff

Flow
08-30-2018, 08:34 AM
that he's a creep for sure, but i don't see why he shouldn't be allowed to continue doing standup.

when the years old allegations came back up he promptly apologised, admitted his wrongdoing and took the public scorn and shame along with losing millions of dollars.

he didn't commit any crimes

the whole he shouldn't have a career anymore thing is what bothers me.

if you can't be a fan of a pasty ginger mexican who wacks off in front of people no one is forcing you to buy/watch his specials or attend his shows

but i think you already knew my opinion of it.

this thread is mainly about how we can have such different opinions and both feel 100 percent in the right.


Makes you wonder why they call it a correctional facility if even when you didn't technically commit crime you shouldn't be allowed to work when you've paid your debt

Ghost1
08-30-2018, 08:42 AM
oh yea "work" right

fat pervert tells jokes for a living

let him join the rest of us in the real world

god forbid right

idgaf if he wanna jerk off into little babies mouths honestly but I will NEVER feel bad that he loses his insanely luxurious life style due to it

OH YEA HE PAID HIS DUES GIVE HIM BACK HIS FREE TICKET IN LIFE miss me with that stupid shit


an if u didn't want to debate that topic an really want an answer to ur OP its pretty fucking simple? people have different life experiences thru out childhood and into adulthood that mold their perceptions of the world and guide their emotions

that's all these social media debates r fueled by....emotions

even intelligent discussions with differing political perceptions are based on where and how a person was raised

Destroyer
08-30-2018, 08:49 AM
Legit can be answered in one word which bags used twice: perception.
It’s all our reality is shaped by.

~RustyGunZ~
08-30-2018, 09:11 AM
oh yea "work" right

fat pervert tells jokes for a living

let him join the rest of us in the real world

god forbid right

idgaf if he wanna jerk off into little babies mouths honestly but I will NEVER feel bad that he loses his insanely luxurious life style due to it

OH YEA HE PAID HIS DUES GIVE HIM BACK HIS FREE TICKET IN LIFE miss me with that stupid shit


an if u didn't want to debate that topic an really want an answer to ur OP its pretty fucking simple? people have different life experiences thru out childhood and into adulthood that mold their perceptions of the world and guide their emotions

that's all these social media debates r fueled by....emotions

even intelligent discussions with differing political perceptions are based on where and how a person was raised

Pretty boiler plate life

I think he means more factual things based on OP but didn’t really give an example

There aren’t many facts in life

Ghost1
08-30-2018, 09:15 AM
I mean asking why people have differing opinions is a psychological question

the book I recommended gives an incredibly detailed explanation to the topic but I don't think uh oh really wanted anything from this thread other than to think outloud

~RustyGunZ~
08-30-2018, 09:26 AM
Yeah probably the thinking out loud

If he is confused by people debating things backed by fact, I think he has the brain power to have already known everything in your last post but hasn’t reached the point of understating facts people present are usually not facts they’re evidence and every side has different evidence. Just like Tyrone has different views because he’s from the California ghettos, socialism doesn’t work in every country. Yet those instances are used as “fact” to support capitalism even though socialism works other places. Same goes for lose and strict drug and gun laws. Sex laws. Etc.

But again his example I guess was Louis ck? That’s a pretty opinion based thing lol. As a liberty minded person I don’t think anyone should be banned from doing much of anything. If he doesn’t sell tickets he’ll starve, if he sells tickets the people have spoken. Just like the gay cake shit. Let them have whatever policies they want, maybe they’ll change their tune when they lose business and go bankrupt.

Amen
08-30-2018, 11:05 AM
Makes you wonder why they call it a correctional facility if even when you didn't technically commit crime you shouldn't be allowed to work when you've paid your debt

Lol, bro.

It's called a correctional facility because the ultimate goal of the department of corrections is to TRY and change the behavior of those who have served time or are serving time.

Hence why they provide education, therapy, etc... Some facilities - education is mandatory if your served more then 9 months or some shit.

They attempt to try and prepare these mentally ill or challenged individuals to be released back in to the real world.

Long term sentences has been proven to fuck people up mentally who were already fucked from the beginning FOR THE MOST PART.

What do I know, tho.

uh-oh
08-30-2018, 11:59 AM
I only used the louie thing because it was what was relevant at the time of the thread. One of countless topics where i feel so far in the right of things that i cant fathom how someone would think differently

But bags kind of helped clear up some of the logic of the opposing viewpoints i was missing on that topic at least.

Its a jealousy/envy/hate viewpoint basically. You see louie as the famous wealthy public figure he is, you see he made mistakes, nothing the court of law could prosecute but enough for the court of public opinion to villify him.

Im sure bags would feel different if it was ted from the customer support division. He wouldnt think Ted should be stopped from working his customer support job because he creeped some chicks out a decade ago, apologised admitted wrongdoing blah blah.

Its basically since louie is successful, fuck him. Youre not allowed to participate publicly anymore. Go take your millions and hide scum

uh-oh
08-30-2018, 12:02 PM
But word instead of trying to strike up discussions on here ill just pm bags in the future to get recommendations for books i have 0 interest in

Inno
08-30-2018, 12:29 PM
Human nature?

Ghost1
08-30-2018, 01:17 PM
I only used the louie thing because it was what was relevant at the time of the thread. One of countless topics where i feel so far in the right of things that i cant fathom how someone would think differently

But bags kind of helped clear up some of the logic of the opposing viewpoints i was missing on that topic at least.

Its a jealousy/envy/hate viewpoint basically. You see louie as the famous wealthy public figure he is, you see he made mistakes, nothing the court of law could prosecute but enough for the court of public opinion to villify him.

Im sure bags would feel different if it was ted from the customer support division. He wouldnt think Ted should be stopped from working his customer support job because he creeped some chicks out a decade ago, apologised admitted wrongdoing blah blah.

Its basically since louie is successful, fuck him. Youre not allowed to participate publicly anymore. Go take your millions and hide scum

I hateu

~RustyGunZ~
08-30-2018, 01:25 PM
Oh now you’re sounding stupid uh oh.

Louis CK shouldn’t be banned from comedy because it’s an art form that he has to work at to make a living on. He should deal with the industry itself either spitting him out into hell or taking him back in. These allegations happened during his comedy career at comedy events, so your ted from cust service comparison is fucking retarded. Ted should be fired and have to find a new customer service job with the crutch of someone working st his old job knowing people in the area and a few potential employers hearing about that ted guy that jerked off in the break room randomly in front of 3 female co workers

Flow
08-30-2018, 02:36 PM
Lol, bro.

It's called a correctional facility because the ultimate goal of the department of corrections is to TRY and change the behavior of those who have served time or are serving time.

Hence why they provide education, therapy, etc... Some facilities - education is mandatory if your served more then 9 months or some shit.

They attempt to try and prepare these mentally ill or challenged individuals to be released back in to the real world.

Long term sentences has been proven to fuck people up mentally who were already fucked from the beginning FOR THE MOST PART.

What do I know, tho.

Yeah I think you misunderstood me bro

uh-oh
08-30-2018, 06:02 PM
Oh now you’re sounding stupid uh oh.

Louis CK shouldn’t be banned from comedy because it’s an art form that he has to work at to make a living on. He should deal with the industry itself either spitting him out into hell or taking him back in. These allegations happened during his comedy career at comedy events, so your ted from cust service comparison is fucking retarded. Ted should be fired and have to find a new customer service job with the crutch of someone working st his old job knowing people in the area and a few potential employers hearing about that ted guy that jerked off in the break room randomly in front of 3 female co workers

i was on my lunchbreak typing from my phone. the analogy holds up though, because louie didn't wack off in front of people at work, he tried to get a coworker to do it from work, but that was the chick he actually didn't do anything with who said no from the start. the chicks he jerked off in front of, he was out at a bar drinking with, invited them back to his hotel room, asked him if he could while they giggled and said yea thinking he was joking, he wasnt and started jerking off and it got weird so they left.

he didn't hold doors shut or force himself on anyone. it was literally consensual.

it was creepy sure.

so your analysis of ted is flawed based on the false perception of louie in the media. ted would be able to continue his career in customer support. he could get fired from his company sure, but nothing would stop him from gaining employment elsewhere

the problem with louie is he was fired/dropped from FX, and he had a movie cancelled and buried, after apologising for his past actions. then after a long time away he goes up for free to do a stand up set, to a standing ovation, clubs all over the country are willing to work him, so it isn't the industry of stand up that is shunning him. its the industry of butthurt people who would never go to see him anyways.

plenty of clubowners are willing to sell out tickets to there establishments to book him for a weekend. he can go back to selling his specials on his website if places like netflix etc shun him

but they don't want to see that happen, they use him as a figurehead for the actual monsters like weinstein etc, who actually rape and assault people. he's lumped in with them. and since he's actually trying to move on with his life, they can't have it

i don't get it.

~RustyGunZ~
08-30-2018, 10:46 PM
Companies have to make decisions to keep themselves in business. Booting him from FX was a smart business decision.

If you disagree with that, than you’re the nimwit in your scenario of people arguing against near irrefutable evidence.

uh-oh
08-31-2018, 04:58 AM
i wasn't arguing that, him being dropped from FX and losing the movie was his punishment on top of the public shame

the problem i have is the attempt to continue blackballing him