Eminem - Killshot (MGK diss)

[dull boy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxQTY-W6GIo

[Ghost1]

lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dull boy]

'Kill shot, and I will not fail.
This idiot's boss pops pills
and tells him he's got skills.
But Kels; the day you put out a hit
is the day Diddy admits that he
put out the hit that got Pac killed'

Whoa

[Ghost1]

man......


on my life my only fear was the beat would be wack for this lol.......thankfully this beat fucking tuffffff


this shit wild good

[John Dillinger]

Em snapped but MGK still got em

[Ghost1]

Em snapped but MGK still got em

negged?

the question mark is because im confused why its even come to this?

have better opinions

[Amen]

MGK dead.

[John Dillinger]

Shit u negged me

How will I ever recover

[Geno]

Shit is nuts. Murderrrrrrrr and woa at everything else he touched on lmao

[boof]

OMG THANK GOD
FINALLY

that 3 albums ago is so wack tho jesus

sitting here crossing my fingers that no more cringiness happens

word nice

this shit is dope i havent said that in a decade

[Witty]

Em just picked that boy to pieces tho.

[Destroyer]

404d???
I will kill someone

[Destroyer]

MANBUN
Got him

[Lenox]

Daggot

[Destroyer]

This shit ether
I have to thank MGK for bringing this side of shady back

[veritas]

Mgk gone

[Destroyer]

"Younger me, no you're the wack me
It's funny but so true
I'd rather be 80 year old me than 20 year old you”
Ouch

[dull boy]

MGK got murdered, obviously.

Em just took SERIOUS shots at Puff... presumably for letting Kelly go at him.

After accusing him of killing Pac that outro had to be sarcasm and shows Em knows there's going to be a fallout from that line.

Pac and Biggie's deaths, and who was involved is the Hip Hop equivalent of the n word.

[Destroyer]

Yeah I see that line making the most waves out of the entire diss

[Amen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxQTY-W6GIo

[Ghost1]

so who tf is on badboy these days tho......who could puff send for em im wondering

battle wise

I cant imagine he would ever let someone ghostwrite a diss for him to go at em.....not at this stage of his career

really tho whos on bad boy......... French?

[Destroyer]

Shyne lol

[Amen]

His son lol.

[Ghost1]

lmaoooooooo

[Ghost1]

nah really tho.....is the ADDITIONAL buddens call out being attached to this monster of a track enough to get joe to finally respond?

[dull boy]

nah really tho.....is the ADDITIONAL buddens call out being attached to this monster of a track enough to get joe to finally respond?

I honestly think Joe's stalling. I'm not saying Joe can't pen a diss, but going at Eminem over hitting you with a jab for blatantly trashing his music is a little more complex than your average verse, given their history. There's also Royce to consider.

Remy flat out called Joe a scared pussy on camera. He's milking this shit for views. I can't blame him... but I think eventually he responds on record.

[bleak]

Had to give you a career to destroy it

sums up this beef well.

[Geno]

Wow second liaten. This is really good. Game over

[Amen]

Got it on Threepeat.

[dull boy]

Yeah I see that line making the most waves out of the entire diss

He ended it by saying he was just kidding... but fuck if that isn't going to be a hard pill for Puff to swallow without wanting to get back at Em.

It's just bars.

[dull boy]

If you look at the context it could be construed as, MGK's never putting out a hit just like Puff will never admit to putting out a hit on Pac... because neither is true?

He did say he was playing... but like I said... that's some taboo shit to touch on lol

[Cred]

Em went brazyyyy

[dull boy]

And apparently yesterday was the anniversary of Pac dying

[Amen]

Dull boy know every bar word for word already, jesus...

He’s got the entire diss deciphered already lol.

[Geno]

U all peeped how he said give jada kiss right

U know jada said in an interview recently he would kill em if the price was right. Clearly em saw it

[Destroyer]

“How the fuck can him and I battle?
He'll have to fuck Kim in my flannel,
I'll give him my sandals
'Cause he knows long as I'm Shady, he's gon' have to live in my shadow” FIRE

[Chyeahhh!!!]

I'll say it again. Em's scared of Joe

[Aero]

This was good not great. Never really took it to the top. MGK wins without having to respond.

[Geno]

Mgk wins? NAh. U trolling gtfoh lmao

[dull boy]

Dull boy know every bar word for word already, jesus...

He’s got the entire diss deciphered already lol.

I’m not ashamed. I love this.

[Destroyer]

Aero the legit dumbest chink on here

[~RustyGunZ~]

Fire

Mgk needs to just hide for awhile lol

Curious how diddy will respond

[Ghost1]

MGK got murdered, obviously.

Em just took SERIOUS shots at Puff... presumably for letting Kelly go at him.

Got the Diddy ok so u spent ya whole day shootin a video just to dig ya own grave

[dull boy]

Accused Puff of popping pills and killing Pac. I doubt it’s coincidence he mentioned being with Dre in the same stanza.

[Amen]

True. Hip hop sources running with that Diddy/PAC references right now, HAHAHA!

[Ghost1]

Also...........is em the first person in actual contention for goat status to verbalize and stake claim to it on record?


That's important

[uh-oh]

lmao stfu nerds

this was a BODY tho

[dull boy]

Also...........is em the first person in actual contention for goat status to verbalize it on record?


That's important

I was trying to think of anyone else mentioning it, too. Nothing comes to mind. That’s a notorious sized can of worms Em just popped the top on.

Anyone who’s anyone in Hip Hop is going to hear that and be shocked.

‘Maybe I need to stir up shit. Preferably
shake the world up if it were up to me.’

[Destroyer]

“Last name ever, first name greatest?”

[Amen]

Lmfao Dull killing me...

He know every EM bar ever and all the references.

Few artists mention GOAT status on tracks. Jay Z has, Nas, PAC certainly did, Kiss for sure, 50 is another one that definitely has... etc.

[Witty]

Em has been incredibly savvy in his release of this new album in a way he hasn't been with many previous albums. His last few albums all did well (Revival less so than others), but failed to take in to recognition the extremely short attention span of modern music fans...so people would talk about it for a day or two and then it's on to the next thing. With this album he has executed and timed things to perfection...dropping the album by surprise, the anticipation of this response, his daily interviews etc and it has meant that this is basically all that has been talked about for 2 weeks. And probably for another week or so too. Dropping that album out of the blue is the best career move Eminem has made in a long time.

[dull boy]

Lmfao Dull killing me...

He know every EM bar ever and all the references.

Few artists mention GOAT status on tracks. Jay Z has, Nas, PAC certainly did, Kiss for sure, 50 is another one that definitely has... etc.

lol

There was a time when I knew everyone’s every bar ever. Self professed rap nerd with an obvious favorite.

But Bags was talking about rappers who have clout mentioning Pac’s death the way Em just did. Not who has claimed to be the best.

Wonder if the shit he was eluding to on the Sway interview going too far was this. Have to imagine that the diss dropped the day the finale of the interview airs wasn’t a coincidence.

[Destroyer]

Oh I was also confused

[Inno]

I was trying to think of anyone else mentioning it, too. Nothing comes to mind. That’s a notorious sized can of worms Em just popped the top on.

Anyone who’s anyone in Hip Hop is going to hear that and be shocked.

‘Maybe I need to stir up shit. Preferably
shake the world up if it were up to me.’

Rumors of puff setting pac up have been circulated all through the history of this beef.

Reports say puff hired some crips to do the work.

Y’all srsly just hearing about these accusations?

[Inno]

There’s also rumors he set up biggie cuz biggie was about to leave after recording one more album under badboy. Supposedly he was going to sign with jay z and do a double joint album

[uh-oh]

they're saying no one has said it on a track tho

AND THAT MAKES IT IMPORTANT

LMFAO

which is why i said to stfu

eminem drops something i enjoyed and his fans have to go and ruin it

[Hush]

Round 1 Em

[veritas]

Clone Eminem is really stepping it up. The Illuminati are proud right now I bet.

[dull boy]

It’s not the fact that Em said it that makes it important you dense son of bitch... it’s that if no one influential has mentioned it previously then THAT makes it more noteworthy.

Feel like I’m constantly having to break shit down around here. WRATH needed a god damn instruction manual to figure out wtf was happening in that racism thread.

And Innovator, it’s not that it’s new news, it’s just that SOMEONE (not just Em, but ANYONE) is shining a bright ass spotlight on it.

[Ghost1]

Uh oh bro.... U walk outside an be annoyed that the sun is out there too

PFT SUN U DONT EVEN GET WHY THE SKY IS DOPE SMH I AM TJE ONLY ONE WHO HAS VALID REASONS FOR WHY THINGS R COOL


Stfu hipster fagot uh oh dirtbag no one gives a fuck what u like or deem cool for whatever extremely narrow happenstance ur stupid neanderthal brain is leaning towards at the second u puke ur thoughts into the keyboard

In what realm would ur position on coolness be relevant ever anyways? Ur a fucking dirty bald psycho path who works in a garage and plays video games when he's not paying strange women to sleep w him?

This like I drop a buck into the insane homeless guys cup on the corner and he say PFT STUPID ASS SNEAKERS.....lol actually I'd like him infinity times more than u JUST STFU

[Destroyer]

Ahah hahaha
Today is a good day for disses

[Ghost1]

Rumors of puff setting pac up have been circulated all through the history of this beef.

Reports say puff hired some crips to do the work.

Y’all srsly just hearing about these accusations?

No u stupid fuck lol

[uh-oh]

guys you don't get it

this is important

[Destroyer]

Ran out of Funyuns? We can talk about it
Hard to work on cars with bunions? Let’s talk about it

[Ghost1]

Lmaooooo

Im Sick of the lack of dental care les talk about it
An ya fuckin beard look wierd

[Inno]

No u stupid fuck lol

Why does everything have to be a confrontation?

dull boy I feel what yah saying homie.

[Ghost1]

Don't be sensitive lol

We been talking rap for years....and years . ...and years


If we were chillin an u said that to me in person my response would be exactly the same lol

Not meant to be confrontational just kind of like wtf? How could u think that? Lol

[Witty]

You're salty
Cuz young Gerald's balls deep inside of Halsey.

[dull boy]

Diddy owns Revolt. The company that just signed Joe Budden to a TV show deal after he left Complex.

So he’s Budden and MGK’s boss.

[Inno]

Don't be sensitive lol

We been talking rap for years....and years . ...and years


If we were chillin an u said that to me in person my response would be exactly the same lol

Not meant to be confrontational just kind of like wtf? How could u think that? Lol

Ohh no no it was more of a rhetorical retort tbh, I wouldn’t expect anything less IRL.

But yo now I’m going to actually listen to this

[Chill Phil]

Jesus...

[Big Bolo]

I don't think he was playing, just like he wasn't when he said,

"I'm just playing America you know I love you"

And

"I'm just playing ladies you know I love you"

Either way fuck diddys ol' Milli vanilli ass

I expect mgk to come back, but it's not a good idea

[Destroyer]

Yo I just realized pac died 22 years ago... yesterday

[boof]

lmaoooo bags is killing me im crying

whos young gerald though

[boof]

ohhh g eazy right. damn that section is nasty

[Inno]

Em went off. Why do I feel like this just ok tho?

[Clout]

Lol MGK got whooped RIP


2:20 to 2:45 went hard....

[Ghost1]

It doesn't deserve a thread so I guess I'll dump it here but

Who heard bizarres diss track? He collabs w some kid who sends like every text battling audio guy ever.....and I'm thinking is he doing this bad in life?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hotnewhiphop.com/d12s-bizarre-roasts-machine-gun-kelly-and-defends-eminem-on-dav1ds-sniper-new-song.1980321.html%3f_amp

[dull boy]

It doesn't deserve a thread so I guess I'll dump it here but

Who heard bizarres diss track? He collabs w some kid who sends like every text battling audio guy ever.....and I'm thinking is he doing this bad in life?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hotnewhiphop.com/d12s-bizarre-roasts-machine-gun-kelly-and-defends-eminem-on-dav1ds-sniper-new-song.1980321.html%3f_amp

That guy is so bad he makes Bizarre sound like he has mic presence.

[dull boy]

‘Wait. He didn’t just say what I think he did... Diddy?’

Saw someone post this lol

[Ghost1]

That guy is so bad he makes Bizarre sound like he has mic presence.

Lol fr first thing I thought was......bizarre sound dope at least LOL

[Amen]

Mind boggling how people could say MGK’s diss was better lol.

[Destroyer]

It must be the same people who are like no way 3000 people died in Puerto rico

[uh-oh]

no one is saying that^

[Destroyer]

Lmao just your guy

[Geno]

http://hiphopdx.com/news/id.48447/title.the-internet-explodes-after-eminem-implicates-diddy-in-tupacs-murder


Internet reacts to diddy line lol

[Rude]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnGiT7eWwAAyXYM.jpg:large

I think MGK bodied himself before he even wrote the No Reason verse to start this war.

[Elemental P]

Not impressed.
So y'all gassed bout lines like
"How u name yaself after a damn gun but got a man bun"?


What? Games 300bars, where he said
"Dear mister interscope I'll put u in a scope/
Burst rounds you the first down like a winter coat/"

But... Damn gun/man bun.....fucking crazy dope.....

[boof]

its... the scheme and flow.. obviously.. not the line itself..

[Elemental P]

its... the scheme and flow.. obviously.. not the line itself..

Not impressed.

[Destroyer]

Not impressed.
So y'all gassed bout lines like
"How u name yaself after a damn gun but got a man bun"?


What? Games 300bars, where he said
"Dear mister interscope I'll put u in a scope/
Burst rounds you the first down like a winter coat/"

But... Damn gun/man bun.....fucking crazy dope.....

Lmao
Go listen to some immortal technique faggot

[dull boy]

Machine Bun Kelly

[Destroyer]

It’s not like man bun is some kind of amazingly crafted bar
It’s just funny as fuck
You want amazingly crafted bars, keep listening

[veritas]

Is it racist for a white person to say Eminem is the GOAT? And is it racist for a black person to say he is not?

[Destroyer]

WRATH

[veritas]

jude...you have been given a non-racist badge. Can you comment on this?

[Destroyer]

I don’t know, man.
I don’t want to risk the badge, now that I’ve been awarded it

[veritas]

Does that make you an Uncle Tom or a wigger? I’m not sure anymore about this

[Hush]

So I did the math on this


It comes down to weird beard vs man bun hand gun


Em remains white hope

[dull boy]

Does that make you an Uncle Tom or a wigger? I’m not sure anymore about this

I think it would be the white equivalent of Uncle Tom. Pappy Tyrone, perhaps.

[Witty]

Em really didn't give a fuck about MGK, that's like David Vs Goliath but Goliath won. That's light work. This guy keep mentioning Budden...he wants that beef.

[Split Eight]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnGiT7eWwAAyXYM.jpg:large

I think MGK bodied himself before he even wrote the No Reason verse to start this war.

Lmfao

Mega cringe

[Amen]

Lol your beard is weird.

SMH

[Barcotic]

not impressed
v/mgk

[Amen]

Ronald Spence Jr. wrote MGK's track?

Say it ain't so. Has him listed as a Lyricist and not Producer?

This true?

[Destroyer]

not impressed
v/mgk

Just in case anyone doubted that em won
This clinches it

[Barcotic]

em just sounds whack af lately
irritating voice

mgk's track is a much better bump
stans will be stans tho

[uh-oh]

i am em's biggest critic. he bodied mgk badly. not even remotely close.

mgk's track is structured like a song. so its going to be the better listen as a standalone. but as two diss tracks, em wholly murdered him.

[Barcotic]

agree to disagree

[Amen]

Barc stop trolling.

Not even your inner stan Cronus believes you.

[Barcotic]

not trolling
em's voice is just annoying

[Inno]

“I’d rather be a 80 year old me than 20 year old you”

That shit is fire?

[Amen]

"Your beard is weird"

That's fire?

[veritas]

Narcotic is trolling himself here.

[dull boy]

Social media is cancer.

[Destroyer]

Your tats are weird
Weird tats
Why you yelling on the board?

[Ghost1]

Lmaoooo

[Victor.]

Your tats are weird
Weird tats
Why you yelling on the board?

Lolol

[boof]

i am em's biggest critic. he bodied mgk badly. not even remotely close.

mgk's track is structured like a song. so its going to be the better listen as a standalone. but as two diss tracks, em wholly murdered him.

100%

also the ronny j shit is interesting this dude produced lil pump kanye I LOVE IT em's killshot & mgk's rap devil? who this dude

[Big Bolo]

After listening a few more times and thinking about it there is 3 inconsistencies with Em's response

First off mgk is not a mumble rapper by any means

I get that at one point mgk had a man bun, but doesn't currently and didn't in his video diss

Lastly MGK never said recovery was 4 albums ago so that whole part was a major stretch and it failed

Idk I still say eminem is in the W column right now but I now hope MGK responds and wouldn't be surprised if he mentions the inconsistencies listed above.

[dull boy]

MGK will definitely respond. This is it. His moment. Better capture it and hope it don’t pass him.

[Ghost1]

100%

also the ronny j shit is interesting this dude produced lil pump kanye I LOVE IT em's killshot & mgk's rap devil? who this dude

Someone getting paid out the yin that's for sure

[Victor.]

Em fell off beat for a second that was weird

[Amen]

MGK will definitely respond. This is it. His moment. Better capture it and hope it don’t pass him.

Lmfaooooooo

Moms spaghetti.

[dull boy]

Song definitely has an odd cadence.

[cac lover]

“I’d rather be a 80 year old me than 20 year old you”

That shit is fire?

In the context of this battle...yes it is..because mgk is trying to imply he is the new age Eminem...

Same as Tupac..."you claim to be a playa but I fucked your wife" the line ain't shit but in that beef with the faith circumstances....that shit was dope.

This ain't text

[Amen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2aU9zoH1lA

Lol

[dull boy]

I hope Em mentions using too many napkins in his next album.

It ought’a happen...

[cac lover]

Why do people act like all emcees don't get outta pocket when ppl,diss they work?

I just read a magazine that fucked up my day,how you rate music, that ppl with nothing relate to...do you fools listen to music or just skim through it

[Amen]

I don't rate it numerically but I do determine whether I like it or don't if that's what you consider rating.

[dull boy]

Why do people act like all emcees don't get outta pocket when ppl,diss they work?

Do people act that way?

[Barcotic]

mgk should come at em about moby putting his dick in his face at the award show
lmaoo fr tho em is such a bitch for that, if kelly was smart he could pull off a career ender w the calibre of personals on eminem

[cac lover]

mgk should come at em about moby putting his dick in his face at the award show
lmaoo fr tho em is such a bitch for that, if kelly was smart he could pull off a career ender w the calibre of personals on eminem

This is why I kinda feel like this is kinda a staged beef....I think Eminem and puffy are orchestrating this shit....its a win win for both....Eminem needed something to boost him...revival was his worst selling record by far....so he went back to his bread n butter dissing everybody n everything...n these disses did they job....the new albums sales were twice revivals....
N the benifiets for puff n Kelly are obvious and mgk diss was WAAYYY to soft he had 20 years worth of ammo to me unleash on Eminem n he talks about none of the hard hitting shit...calls him the greatest rapper ever....his idol....in a diss? Seem like his was told what he could n couldn't use in the track

[Ghost1]

mgk should come at em about moby putting his dick in his face at the award show
lmaoo fr tho em is such a bitch for that, if kelly was smart he could pull off a career ender w the calibre of personals on eminem

yea that would really retire slim for sho

maybe he should do IT WITH WORDPLAYS


lol matter fact////how in the fuck r u the worst and most consistent wordplay writer since always and not ems biggest fan?

fucking reality eludes me everytime I log into this shit show

an guy above me..........the only thing that makes me think they collaborated on the beef is that Robert spence guy is involved with both tracks......saying revival didn't sell or that em even needed it to is silly.......it still went platinum....and again...he doesn't care or need the money at this stage

[Destroyer]

Fuck is this Canadian faggot even on about?
Borat? Stop projecting

[Ghost1]

I read mad posts in this thread that was like....eh not even worth it engaging or disputing because if you were able to even arrive at that opinion........we are way too far away from having an intelligent discussion smh

[cac lover]

yea that would really retire slim for sho

maybe he should do IT WITH WORDPLAYS


lol matter fact////how in the fuck r u the worst and most consistent wordplay writer since always and not ems biggest fan?

fucking reality eludes me everytime I log into this shit show

an guy above me..........the only thing that makes me think they collaborated on the beef is that Robert spence guy is involved with both tracks......saying revival didn't sell or that em even needed it to is silly.......it still went platinum....and again...he doesn't care or need the money at this stage

Its always about sales.I fuck with Eminem and he after 20 years in the game is still one of the biggest artist in the game BUT Eminem is all about promotional gimmicks....always has been...it comes with the territory of being interscopes top draw....

[Ghost1]

I guess my point was that hes more concerned with promoting his image

[dull boy]

Freedom of information and expression is wild. There has been a swell of social consciousness revolution from the 1960s on. Look where we are now. Everyone has their platform. Their opinion is capable of going viral any minute. Millions of fans turned quasi professional critics. Sensationalism gets the clicks. Clicks get the attention. When newspapers had a monopoly on public opinion there was always a ?healthy? distrust. Nightly news posed the same question. Now every major city has it's own news outlet, albeit controlled by a larger corporate agenda. Hip Hop is a microcosm of this. The Source used to control what was 'dope'. XXL. Certain websites. Now things are scattered as fuck. There's a sprawl of 'valid' opinions. The road to credibility went from a journey of self discovery and paying dues, to a sensational comment away. Less is earned in the realm of opinion. Those without credibility, but a desire to be heard, will discredit those with time put in so that they seem equal. We're in this constant battle for credibility. Promoting our image. Not because we want to, necessarily, but because that's the reality of our current social climate.

Shit is a circus, you clowns that are comin' up
Don't give an ounce of a motherfuck
About the ones that were here before you that made rap
Let's recap, way back, MC's that wreak havoc on tape decks
ADATs, where the G Raps and Kanes at?
We need 3 Stacks ASAP and bring Masta Ace back

[Barcotic]

This is why I kinda feel like this is kinda a staged beef....I think Eminem and puffy are orchestrating this shit....its a win win for both....Eminem needed something to boost him...revival was his worst selling record by far....so he went back to his bread n butter dissing everybody n everything...n these disses did they job....the new albums sales were twice revivals....
N the benifiets for puff n Kelly are obvious and mgk diss was WAAYYY to soft he had 20 years worth of ammo to me unleash on Eminem n he talks about none of the hard hitting shit...calls him the greatest rapper ever....his idol....in a diss? Seem like his was told what he could n couldn't use in the track
true

sooo many things kelly could go at him w
kind of disappointing

[Barcotic]

Fuck is this Canadian faggot even on about?
Borat? Stop projecting
lmaooo yess i stand corrected thats how long its ben since i fucked w/ eminem

sacha baron cohen, not moby
same pt applies tho

[cac lover]

Well mgk clowned his self with the trying to play on Instagram like he had a sold out arena giving Eminem the finger....n truth be told he open for fall out boys n got boo'd like hell when he tried to perform rap devil

[Clout]

Well mgk clowned his self with the trying to play on Instagram like he had a sold out arena giving Eminem the finger....n truth be told he open for fall out boys n got boo'd like hell when he tried to perform rap devil

And the producer of rap devil said mgk recorded it 6 months ago....so technically in my eyes em had up to 6 months to make a reply.

Mgk got booed off stage haha

[Hush]

Well mgk clowned his self with the trying to play on Instagram like he had a sold out arena giving Eminem the finger....n truth be told he open for fall out boys n got boo'd like hell when he tried to perform rap devil

Link us cuz that’s funny if true

[cac lover]

Link us cuz that’s funny if true

Its all over YouTube

[Hush]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSD7UetsA2I

[uh-oh]

its fake news^

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh47bLggLSj2Wg0Bip

someone put the boos into it

whether he was opening for fallout boy etc could all be true, but the narrative he got boo'd off and shit is fake, and all the boos in that vid were edited in

stans gonna stan

[Ghost1]

its not relevant that he was opening for fall out boy in ur stupid warped mind tho>?

lol u cant be anti stan stan and throw shade on stans IDIOT

[Clout]

RIP mgk

[uh-oh]

its not relevant that he was opening for fall out boy in ur stupid warped mind tho>?

lol u cant be anti stan stan and throw shade on stans IDIOT
nah man. i want to state i've never been a fan of MGK and could care less, not defending him at all

just the narrative he deceived the crowd and was booed off stage is false. they rocked with him for it

the stans made up a story of him getting the crowd to flip off the camera and then turning around to boos and then putting out an edited video with fake boos in it to defend their hero, and they should be shamed

now apologize

[Clout]

nah man. i want to state i've never been a fan of MGK and could care less, not defending him at all

just the narrative he deceived the crowd and was booed off stage is false. they rocked with him for it

the stans made up a story of him getting the crowd to flip off the camera and then turning around to boos and then putting out an edited video with fake boos in it to defend their hero, and they should be shamed

now apologize

MGK got boo'd off lil man, deal widddiiitttt

[Ghost1]

nah man. i want to state i've never been a fan of MGK and could care less, not defending him at all

just the narrative he deceived the crowd and was booed off stage is false. they rocked with him for it

the stans made up a story of him getting the crowd to flip off the camera and then turning around to boos and then putting out an edited video with fake boos in it to defend their hero, and they should be shamed

now apologize

lmao cite your sources pussy

[uh-oh]

i posted the link to the original video but your greasy gindaloon fingers mustve scrolled past it

[Ghost1]

NAH im unconvinced. u prolly fucking ADDED the cheers and deleted the boos in ur little beat studio smothered in tostinos and deceit

[Ghost1]

lmao nah fr on my life im legit over this beef....I never gave a fuck about mgk and never will again now that this is done

im happy to have a good em album for a change and a dope diss track tah boot....this whole extra narrative igaf about shits corny to me at this point

[uh-oh]

agreed. im back to ignoring all caucasoid rappers and the world is a better place again

Also apology accepted

[cac lover]

This beef fake as fuck anyway.....they both interscope....MGK rapdevil producer said the track is 6 months old....and MGK disses had to be the sofest disses in hiphop history. .who calls their opponent the greatest mc of alltime in a diss?
MGK was clearly told to go make a diss record with kid gloves on and he would be rewarded with the most promotion he could ever dream of....and beef has always fueled Eminem sells...his last albums sales were good but sucked for Eminem....so he trying to maintain his big bad wolf reputation by picking on weak hand picked opponents just like he has his whole career...


But kamakazi is the best album by a cracker since Eminem show....so its cool

[dull boy]

I’m offended by your repeated use of the word cracker to describe people.

Also, you sound like an idiot.

[boof]

yea the boo's were fake for sure

[Geno]

Lmao. Who is this.retard neway.

They were paid off to boo em. You aint know?

The staged theory makes sense logically. But realistically i believe its bullshit. Not EVERYTHING is a fucking conspiracy

[cac lover]

Lmao. Who is this.retard neway.

They were paid off to boo em. You aint know?

The staged theory makes sense logically. But realistically i believe its bullshit. Not EVERYTHING is a fucking conspiracy

I never said anyone was paid to boo.

And yes its staged...but Eminem dropped a dope diss record so its cool

[Hush]

Who cares how a alternate rock crowd perceived a rap beef

[cac lover]

Who cares how a alternate rock crowd perceived a rap beef

Ummm the two guys in the rap beef considering the fall out boys fanbase is Eminem and mgk fanbase as well

[Lobo for the kill]

I like killshot but Rap Devil is just better. Eminem out rhymed him but outside of reversing mgk lines he failed

[cac lover]

I like killshot but Rap Devil is just better. Eminem out rhymed him but outside of reversing mgk lines he failed

Wrong

[Hush]

Ummm the two guys in the rap beef considering the fall out boys fanbase is Eminem and mgk fanbase as well

As well as 75 percent of this board

It’s retarded
Eminem Stan’s tend know fuck all about hip hop

[Lobo for the kill]

His best line was the diddy pac shit..and thats not aimed at. Mgk

[cac lover]

As well as 75 percent of this board

It’s retarded
Eminem Stan’s tend know fuck all about hip hop

Im not going to say your wrong.
But your question was who cares about a alternative rock groups fanbase opinions on a rap beef and the answer remains Eminem and mgk care very much because that's the majority of their record sales.....

[cac lover]

His best line was the diddy pac shit..and thats not aimed at. Mgk

Wrong.
It was aimed at mgk.

And the best sequence was the bow n arrow...hold steel shit....

Eminem roasted mgk....

Mgk shit was way to politically correct....

[Lobo for the kill]

Best lines

Bow and arrow scheme

Billy goat..no biggie no jay..that iggy hoe

The stan opening

Diddy line

[Diode]

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41858689_2034271159956047_2389924170923245568_o.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=4d3a1eff61703b147593f6f9fcea3899&oe=5C33D0D7

[cac lover]

Diode I knew it

[Lobo for the kill]

Fun fact..eminem spouts endless anti gay rhetoric but dresses in drag every video

[Geno]

So em knew what he was doing been preaching about how a diss reaponse would make mgk bigger. So he puts an interview out claiming that its hes one reason he doesnt drop a diss. Then he drops a diss. Then people go from praising rap devil to booing its performance live on stage. Genius. Reverse paychology type shit. Em da god

[Amen]

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41858689_2034271159956047_2389924170923245568_o.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=4d3a1eff61703b147593f6f9fcea3899&oe=5C33D0D7

Yo, lol - I had to watch the extended video to get this.

[Amen]

Ummm the two guys in the rap beef considering the fall out boys fanbase is Eminem and mgk fanbase as well

Nah, bro. Maybe some in the crowd but not all Rock Fans listen to or follow hip hop like that.

[uh-oh]

So em knew what he was doing been preaching about how a diss reaponse would make mgk bigger. So he puts an interview out claiming that its hes one reason he doesnt drop a diss. Then he drops a diss. Then people go from praising rap devil to booing its performance live on stage. Genius. Reverse paychology type shit. Em da god

no one boo'd the performance. that vid was fake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0viPtP4VKco

no boo's for him having the shirt on, no boos during the performance, its fake news doggie.

[cac lover]

Nah, bro. Maybe some in the crowd but not all Rock Fans listen to or follow hip hop like that.

You missing the point homie, Eminem fan base is not hip-hop heads.....95% of Eminem fans are the same people that listen to fallout boys.....the alternative rock fanbase is Eminem fans....always have been.....

[Inno]

You missing the point homie, Eminem fan base is not hip-hop heads.....95% of Eminem fans are the same people that listen to fallout boys.....the alternative rock fanbase is Eminem fans....always have been.....

This is true. I’m a alternative rock listener and this is very true. Ain’t to many hood niggas bumping em like that lol.

[dull boy]

This is true. I’m a alternative rock listener and this is very true. Ain’t to many hood niggas bumping em like that lol.

That’s why he sells so much, obv. He’s hitting both audiences. Straight out the tube right into your living rooms I came and kids flipped when they knew I was produced by Dre.

Em’s classic rock and Hip Hop, but as an artist he clearly prefers rap lol Shit’s in his roots, tho. It’s all over all his albums. I feel like Eminem Show was his last real attempt at selling as much as possible from a content angle. Everything since has been a passion project. Not saying he’s not wanting to sell lol But I definitely think it’s much lower on the priority list. Dude is richer than I think he could have ever imagined.

Em’s ‘street appeal’ peaked at ‘Til I Collapse

[Inno]

Look st like this. Why is MGK touring with fall out boy?

Cuz it’s the same crowd listening to em.

And yeah I doubt em gives a fuck about sales at this point in his career, it’s obvious he wants the respect from fans and his peers

Tbh not to many besr 50 dudes rapping like em lol

[cac lover]

Look st like this. Why is MGK touring with fall out boy?

Cuz it’s the same crowd listening to em.

And yeah I doubt em gives a fuck about sales at this point in his career, it’s obvious he wants the respect from fans and his peers

Tbh not to many besr 50 dudes rapping like em lol

I agree with everything you said in this thread except the sales thing....Eminem still cares about sales as much now as ever before imo....that is why revival had all those pop stars on it....but that shit didn't work for him as well as he thought....however he did try to be a lot more "hip-hop" with the newest project with the joyner n Royce features and no pink, ed shereen, Beyonce or Rihanna tracks....and the results musically speaks for its self....however Eminem still used a lot of promotional tactics to simply sell records...


But through out his career I give Eminem props for walking that thin line between mainstream and still aknowledging his hip-hop roots

[Inno]

I agree with everything you said in this thread except the sales thing....Eminem still cares about sales as much now as ever before imo....that is why revival had all those pop stars on it....but that shit didn't work for him as well as he thought....however he did try to be a lot more "hip-hop" with the newest project with the joyner n Royce features and no pink, ed shereen, Beyonce or Rihanna tracks....and the results musically speaks for its self....however Eminem still used a lot of promotional tactics to simply sell records...


But through out his career I give Eminem props for walking that thin line between mainstream and still aknowledging his hip-hop roots

I guess my whole thing is, ofcourse he HAS to sell records. But st this point in his career he’s aiming to sell records to stay relevant this maintain his status as a great, rather than just selling record for the money. He doesn’t need the money lol so him caring about how how much he sells doesn’t really matter to him imo.

Revival didn’t do great in sales but I don’t see him bitching about that at all, he’s more pissed people thought it was trash feel me

[cac lover]

I guess my whole thing is, ofcourse he HAS to sell records. But st this point in his career he’s aiming to sell records to stay relevant this maintain his status as a great, rather than just selling record for the money. He doesn’t need the money lol so him caring about how how much he sells doesn’t really matter to him imo.

Revival didn’t do great in sales but I don’t see him bitching about that at all, he’s more pissed people thought it was trash feel me


Understood...though Eminem has went on record a few times saying his tracklisting being prereleased hurt his sales n he will not make that mistake again....and i liked a lot of revival...thought. It showed a different more mature Eminem....

On a side note...am I the only one who thought recovery was awesome?

[dull boy]

Recovery was mature and full of content (Budden lol), but he (rightfully) caught flak for those terribly corny wordplays.

[cac lover]

Recovery was mature and full of content (Budden lol), but he (rightfully) caught flak for those terribly corny wordplays.

The production on recovery is probably the best of Eminem career.

[Witty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NskX9xoN1IE

This will always be the GOAT Eminem diss track imo.

[dull boy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NskX9xoN1IE

This will always be the GOAT Eminem diss track imo.

I prefer Nail in the Coffin.

Written back before Em had a laptop in his back pocket.

[Witty]

I prefer Nail in the Coffin.

Written back before Em had a laptop in his back pocket.

Which brings me to another conversation....and I hesitate to do this because I hate to come across as a 'stan'...I am a fan of Eminem, he's probably my 2nd favourite rapper of all time, and imo he's the best rapper of all time....but he's made some bad bad albums along with the great ones...I digress....my thought process is...if you listen to infinite, and to some degree the slim shady LP...early Em had the same propensity to just rhyme and keep rhyming....his rhyming then was nearly as good as it is now...and it's always been great....but there was a switch from MMLP - Relapse (but not including) where he cut back with the constant stream of rhyming....some might say dumbed it down (though it was still dope)...and he went back there with Recovery (which by no coincidence is his biggest selling album since the first three)....are we now seeing Eminem as he has always wanted to be?

I think he just wants to rhyme.

[dull boy]

Which brings me to another conversation....and I hesitate to do this because I hate to come across as a 'stan'...I am a fan of Eminem, he's probably my 2nd favourite rapper of all time, and imo he's the best rapper of all time....but he's made some bad bad albums along with the great ones...I digress....my thought process is...if you listen to infinite, and to some degree the slim shady LP...early Em had the same propensity to just rhyme and keep rhyming....his rhyming then was nearly as good as it is now...and it's always been great....but there was a switch from MMLP - Relapse (but not including) where he cut back with the constant stream of rhyming....some might say dumbed it down (though it was still dope)...and he went back there with Recovery (which by no coincidence is his biggest selling album since the first three)....are we now seeing Eminem as he has always wanted to be?

I think he just wants to rhyme.

WHAT A DICK RIDING DEVON SAWA ASS MOTHER FUCKER YOU ARE

I spend more time thinking about the psychology of the human being Marshall Mathers than I should probably admit. He’s admitted he views writing rhymes as crossword puzzles. Anyone who’s written rhymes at a decent skill level for long enough knows what he means. I’m sure it’s a combination of escapism turned habitual and formed into a sense of self. He’s obsessive. A perfectionist. Something else that’s easy for a lot of writers to relate to. Writing is an isolating, self reflective task.

I was watching that Comedians in Cars getting Coffee with Seinfeld and he was shooting the shit with John Oliver at a little cafe. They were talking about how their significant others took some time to understand that nothing they say is what they actually mean. Their brains have been wired to formulate thoughts that end in a laugh and whatever comes before the laugh has no concrete significance to them.

I think rhyming is the same way. I’ve lamented in plenty of verses I’ve posted here about the process of writing. How it’s lost it’s magic because it almost comes down to a paint by numbers sort of deal once you’ve reached a certain point.

I think Em had a major personality split when Proof died. Coinciding with his sobering up. I’ve read him say he had to relearn how to write. In the disenchantment of writing you lose some of the fluidity, I think. You become a sort of rhyming or writing machine, as opposed to a reactionary human laying out his thoughts.

I think Recovery was indeed his post rehab album. Humbled. MMLP2 was littered with more traditional verses. I love that album, but I’m mostly a fan of dope rhymes so it makes sense. On Revival I really think he tried. It’s so dense with wordplay, references and top notch lyricism, but that kind of work has been passed over thousands of times. My Name Is was a gimmick. Marshall was genuine, but playing a role. I think you’re right to a degree. At this point he’s making the music he wants, but I also think he has a sharp focus on providing his fans and Hip Hop as a culture with good songs.

I find guy endlessly fascinating, honestly. Would love to sit and just talk writing and shit with him.

- Truly yours.

[cac lover]

Which brings me to another conversation....and I hesitate to do this because I hate to come across as a 'stan'...I am a fan of Eminem, he's probably my 2nd favourite rapper of all time, and imo he's the best rapper of all time....but he's made some bad bad albums along with the great ones...I digress....my thought process is...if you listen to infinite, and to some degree the slim shady LP...early Em had the same propensity to just rhyme and keep rhyming....his rhyming then was nearly as good as it is now...and it's always been great....but there was a switch from MMLP - Relapse (but not including) where he cut back with the constant stream of rhyming....some might say dumbed it down (though it was still dope)...and he went back there with Recovery (which by no coincidence is his biggest selling album since the first three)....are we now seeing Eminem as he has always wanted to be?

I think he just wants to rhyme.

I remember a interview where Eminem said he is addicted to rhyming words...that as a kid even before he knew what rap was he would see how many words he could rhyme in sentences....sounds weird but some ppl just have weird habits...Eminem loves rhymes schemes..

And witty speaking of Eminem albums....just outta curiosity rank them in you order

[Ghost1]

I enjoyed dull boys post more than yours


I don't really enjoy your posts

[Allen Knight]

I enjoyed dull boys post more than yours


I don't really enjoy your posts

No one enjoys ur living.

[Witty]

MMLP
Eminem Show
SSLP
Relapse
Kamikaze
Recovery
Encore

IMO.

[Witty]

I enjoyed dull boys post more than yours


I don't really enjoy your posts

You better be talking bout that other weirdo.

[dull boy]

He’s clearly a sadomasochist with deep insecurities. Songs about his relationships are solid evidence of that.

He’s a humble dude, I think. Introspective. A performer, though. Anyone see how Jim Carrey is lately? At a cursory glance you might think he’s gone insane, and by definition maybe he has a little, but they remind me of each other. You develop a skill out of necessity. You love it. Then you’re a slave to it.

Jim is another dude I’d love to chat with.

[Witty]

He’s clearly a sadomasochist with deep insecurities. Songs about his relationships are solid evidence of that.

He’s a humble dude, I think. Introspective. A performer, though. Anyone see how Jim Carrey is lately? At a cursory glance you might think he’s gone insane, and by definition maybe he has a little, but they remind me of each other. You develop a skill out of necessity. You love it. Then you’re a slave to it.

Jim is another dude I’d love to chat with.

We are the same person.

[Ghost1]

No one enjoys ur living.

All my friends r here Tonite :)

[Ghost1]

Speaking of Jim Carey.....that Andy and me doc was fireeeee

[Ghost1]

Jim an Andy *

[cac lover]

MMLP
Eminem Show
SSLP
Relapse
Kamikaze
Recovery
Encore

IMO.

Switch recovery n relapse n my list is same

[dull boy]

Speaking of Jim Carey.....that Andy and me doc was fireeeee

Yea. He went a little nuts there. That bit about him being on the beach and connecting spiritually with Kaufman (paraphrasing).

He was so in character Kaufman’s sister and he had a conversation as though she were talking to Kaufman through Jim on some emotional closure shit. That’s intense.

[Witty]

Switch recovery n relapse n my list is same

Nah.

[Ghost1]

Yea. He went a little nuts there. That bit about him being on the beach and connecting spiritually with Kaufman (paraphrasing).

He was so in character Kaufman’s sister and he had a conversation as though she were talking to Kaufman through Jim on some emotional closure shit. That’s intense.

I had a discussion about this exact scene w my friend...........it's insane to think......he literally mastered acting to the point where he transcended reality

[Witty]

Oh MMLP2 is between SSLP and relapse...dunno how I forgot it.

[Witty]

It was better than relapse imo.

[Allen Knight]

Idc what anyone says recovery was fire, fuck yah'll & bags i hope he chokes on a lemonchello shot.

[uh-oh]

i think the real question is who is the next white guy we will be discussing that i enjoyed as a kid, only to disappoint me by becoming a faggot with age?

thank god chris farley died. RIP.

[cac lover]

Idc what anyone says recovery was fire, fuck yah'll & bags i hope he chokes on a lemonchello shot.

Yes. Best production of Eminem career

[PancakeBrah]

I had a discussion about this exact scene w my friend...........it's insane to think......he literally mastered acting to the point where he transcended reality

That scene was pretty intense. But I think that moment says a lot more about how repressed the emotions that woman was feeling were than anything about Carey's acting ability.

Carey seemed like a guy who heard about method acting and was bored enough with fame to try it. The method was the performance. That movie is pretty dogshit, and his performance is a bit too precious. He went full Shia LeBouf, although hes a lot more talented obviously. He probably had a lot more fun behind the scenes being a dick than he did when the cameras were on. That documentary was great though.

[boof]

I had a discussion about this exact scene w my friend...........it's insane to think......he literally mastered acting to the point where he transcended reality

been waiting forever to watch it but after reading this i cannot in good conscience wait any longer

[Inno]

Saw the doc, never bothered to watch the actual film

It’s one thing to play a character it’s another to completely dive to a movie thinking you are that character.

That acne simply put, showcased Carey’s insanity.

Honestly if I was Kaufman’s sister I would be like wtf is this guy doing, he’s not my brother wtf?

Shit was weird. Really weird

[dull boy]

He went into the role weird as fuck. I think in the beginning everyone who knew Kaufman was like wtf, but then there’s video of them saying how much like Andy it was... but that’s not the same as having an emotional closure discussion with his sister. I’m betting Carrey in that moment probably felt he’d bitten off more than he could chew, but just swallowed that shit like a champ.

Carrey’s another dude who seems to have transcended the idea of a self. He’s been so many people in the name of entertaining.

Painting was a good move by him. It’s reactionary, almost.