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If god is truly an Omni-god (all powerful, all knowing, all god and loving, all just, all present),(1) how can prayer change reality? (2) How can god have a personal relationship with his creations? (3) can god sin?
dead man
12-04-2018, 05:24 PM
Could god create a text tourney he himself could not champ?
For Battling
12-04-2018, 05:25 PM
Could god create a text tourney he himself could not champ?
If I’m the mod then yes
Qualm
12-04-2018, 05:30 PM
does God create little boys so attractive that not even priests can resist molesting them
dull boy
12-04-2018, 05:39 PM
Come forward v rape tagger for thine reps
~RustyGunZ~
12-04-2018, 06:51 PM
Real up and down thread here
veritas
12-04-2018, 07:49 PM
Could god create a text tourney he himself could not champ?
Yes he could. He could also create a rock so heavy he could not lift. He is not bound to logical consistency. Thankfully for us, he esteems it highly.
veritas
12-04-2018, 07:58 PM
If god is truly an Omni-god (all powerful, all knowing, all god and loving, all just, all present),(1) how can prayer change reality? (2) How can god have a personal relationship with his creations? (3) can god sin?
Prayer is an act of faith. He rewards faith. Plus it is good to praise him. Prayer isn’t just about asking things for our self. Saying thank you is a good thing too.
If you have any children you know how one could have a personal relationship with their creation.
Not directly no. He is bound to his word. He will authorize sin to be done to accomplish his mission. He cannot lie. But will authorize a lie because righteousness trumps truth. This is a deep teaching.
Destroyer
12-04-2018, 08:18 PM
Here we go
Incredible
12-04-2018, 09:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE
Master Rock
12-04-2018, 09:30 PM
Prayer is an act of faith. He rewards faith. Plus it is good to praise him. Prayer isn’t just about asking things for our self. Saying thank you is a good thing too.
If you have any children you know how one could have a personal relationship with their creation.
Not directly no. He is bound to his word. He will authorize sin to be done to accomplish his mission. He cannot lie. But will authorize a lie because righteousness trumps truth. This is a deep teaching.
Word.
Prayer is an act of faith. He rewards faith. Plus it is good to praise him. Prayer isn’t just about asking things for our self. Saying thank you is a good thing too.
If you have any children you know how one could have a personal relationship with their creation.
Not directly no. He is bound to his word. He will authorize sin to be done to accomplish his mission. He cannot lie. But will authorize a lie because righteousness trumps truth. This is a deep teaching.
You just equated humans and god in example 2
How can an all powerful being not do something? God should not be able to make a stone he can’t lift, because that would mean he isn’t a being of actuality and is partly potience. He either can’t do something, and so isn’t really Omni god, or has the potential to be less than god, meaning he can’t be god because god must be a being of actuality.
Qualm
12-04-2018, 10:16 PM
How can an all powerful being not do something? God should not be able to make a stone he can’t lift
These sentences contradict each other
These sentences contradict each other
True, a better way to word it would be something like:
An Omni God should be able to do anything and everything, yet cannot make a stone he can’t lift because this is a logical contradiction.
Clout
12-04-2018, 10:32 PM
True, a better way to word it would be something like:
An Omni God should be able to do anything and everything, yet cannot make a stone he can’t lift because this is a logical contradiction.
Your that annoying white kid that hangs with the other annoying white kid named Lennox. God allowed you two wiggers to exist there's proof enough that god indeed exist.
veritas
12-04-2018, 10:53 PM
You just equated humans and god in example 2
How can an all powerful being not do something? God should not be able to make a stone he can’t lift, because that would mean he isn’t a being of actuality and is partly potience. He either can’t do something, and so isn’t really Omni god, or has the potential to be less than god, meaning he can’t be god because god must be a being of actuality.
Being omnipotent means being able to do the impossible. He could make a rock so heavy he could not lift it and then lift it because he is outside of logical word games/ thought excercises.
~RustyGunZ~
12-04-2018, 11:02 PM
Couldn't he make a derocker that could move the rock though?
Being omnipotent means being able to do the impossible. He could make a rock so heavy he could not lift it and then lift it because he is outside of logical word games/ thought excercises.
This is illogical, flat out illogical. I think I need not demonstrate where you excercise blind faith and acceptance of the unexplainable.
veritas
12-04-2018, 11:03 PM
God can do the logically impossible. He can lift the rock he can’t lift.
God can do the logically impossible. He can lift the rock he can’t lift.
So basically, god’s being is illogical and unfalsifiable, and thus not evidenced, or even having potentiality for being evidenced, philosophically
~RustyGunZ~
12-04-2018, 11:23 PM
So basically, god’s being is illogical and unfalsifiable, and thus not evidenced, or even having potentiality for being evidenced, philosophically
Brother
I don’t think you know how to properly use a lot of words.
Brother
I don’t think you know how to properly use a lot of words.
You’re most likely not wrong, but still please demonstrate this
~RustyGunZ~
12-04-2018, 11:26 PM
You’re most likely not wrong, but still please demonstrate this
nah
go to college
For Battling
12-04-2018, 11:27 PM
You’re most likely not wrong, but still please demonstrate this
Lmao
nah
go to college
Well shit, seems imma have to get a college degree to understand the meaning of a word.
~RustyGunZ~
12-04-2018, 11:38 PM
Well shit, seems imma have to get a college degree to understand the meaning of a word.
To better understand how words are put together is what I was getting at
Clearly Google is teaching you the meaning of words. You just don't have the ability to use them in harmony and within the right context.
You could take SOC101 too and get all of the wild answers to your deep questions.
To better understand how words are put together is what I was getting at
Clearly Google is teaching you the meaning of words. You just don't have the ability to use them in harmony and within the right context.
You could take SOC101 too and get all of the wild answers to your deep questions.
I see
Qualm
12-04-2018, 11:46 PM
nah
go to college
They teach religion at a lot of higher learning academic institutions around your way, yeah? Intro to Genesis 101, yeah? Fundamentals of Sanctity of Marriage 163, yeah? Honors Level Subservient Slavery based on racism 202, yeah? A couple general ed courses in AP Female Oppression, yeah? 2,000 years of Advanced Murder in the name of Jesus 324, yeah? But it's all cool cuz the Lord works in Mysterious ways 425, yeah?
yeah.
Clout you fat ass cunt, make a counter-argument to mine pls
bleak
12-05-2018, 12:06 AM
I've never understood how you can argue a point that has zero proof behind it, and so much against
~RustyGunZ~
12-05-2018, 12:11 AM
They teach religion at a lot of higher learning academic institutions around your way, yeah? Intro to Genesis 101, yeah? Fundamentals of Sanctity of Marriage 163, yeah? Honors Level Subservient Slavery based on racism 202, yeah? A couple general ed courses in AP Female Oppression, yeah? 2,000 years of Advanced Murder in the name of Jesus 324, yeah? But it's all cool cuz the Lord works in Mysterious ways 425, yeah?
yeah.
I'm not religious.
Gr8 post.
Clout
12-05-2018, 07:42 AM
Clout you fat ass cunt, make a counter-argument to mine pls
Ur short and white I owe u nothing u wanna be me, tall light skin and skinny. I'm a cunt that's cool I am what I eat ...u dick head =)
God is great ur just not =(
veritas
12-05-2018, 07:58 AM
I proved it philosophically DMS. I would vault it back to you and ask, how does omnipotence tie into being continually bound to logic? Is the latter a prerequisite for the former? ISNT the whole point of omnipotence being not bound to anything but what it chooses to be bound to?
This seems simple to me.
You make these threads to challenge me (which don't) as subcon subterfuge to wrestle with your own uncertainty.
Or maybe you just enjoy challenging me?
Destroyer
12-05-2018, 08:20 AM
I know I do
veritas
12-05-2018, 08:30 AM
I know I do
Man....if that wasn’t an alley oop to taunt my ego I don’t know what is.
But I resist. Well played tho.
Destroyer
12-05-2018, 08:40 AM
<3
I proved it philosophically DMS. I would vault it back to you and ask, how does omnipotence tie into being continually bound to logic? Is the latter a prerequisite for the former? ISNT the whole point of omnipotence being not bound to anything but what it chooses to be bound to?
This seems simple to me.
You make these threads to challenge me (which don't) as subcon subterfuge to wrestle with your own uncertainty.
Or maybe you just enjoy challenging me?
I didn’t make this to challenge you, actually, but I can’t not challenge something illogical, which god must be if he has any potential to be anything he isn’t(potentiality), because he must be Pure actuality to be the first mover.
~RustyGunZ~
12-05-2018, 10:24 AM
Stop
Using
Words
You
Don’t
Understand
veritas
12-05-2018, 02:37 PM
I didn’t make this to challenge you, actually, but I can’t not challenge something illogical, which god must be if he has any potential to be anything he isn’t(potentiality), because he must be Pure actuality to be the first mover.
Choosing to be logical and being bound to logic are different things.
Omnipotence does not require logic
Omnipotence can surpass logical constraints because it can surpass any constraints.
This is not as difficult as you are trying to make it.
veritas
12-05-2018, 02:38 PM
If you didn’t make this thread to challenge me, then please change the title. Or else you would seem illogical.
Qualm
12-05-2018, 02:40 PM
DMS you ever think about the fact that Macaulay culkin was banging Mila Kunis for years? Completely illogical but it happened anyway. That’s basically what v thinks god is
There, everything’s resolved
veritas
12-05-2018, 03:31 PM
Sighs. Lights Newport.
bleak
12-05-2018, 04:23 PM
There's a difference between guns and butter
veritas
12-05-2018, 04:57 PM
Elab?
bleak
12-05-2018, 05:09 PM
DMS is guns
Victor.
12-05-2018, 05:30 PM
I’m like Melvin from baby boy
If you didn’t make this thread to challenge me, then please change the title. Or else you would seem illogical.
It was to seek answers, but they weren’t good so I challenged them.
veritas
12-05-2018, 09:48 PM
Why were they not good?
uh-oh
12-05-2018, 09:53 PM
hey veritas i lose respect for you and see you as a silly ol chap whenever you do the talking for god thing
grow up sir
veritas
12-05-2018, 10:19 PM
hey veritas i lose respect for you and see you as a silly ol chap whenever you do the talking for god thing
grow up sir
Hey Jim. I’m ok with this.
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