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Qualm
01-04-2019, 10:03 AM
ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name:
Do you believe in God:
Religion:
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets:
Do you believe in Climate Change:
Should gays be allowed to marry:
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized:
Should prostitution be legalized:
Are women equal to men:

Are you

creationist:
prolife:
prolife in cases of rape:
antivaxxer:
flat earther:
death penalty:
anti-immigration:
pro-guns:

Qualm
01-04-2019, 10:06 AM
Name: Qualm
Do you believe in God: undecided
Religion: Agnosticism
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: y
Do you believe in Climate Change: y
Should gays be allowed to marry: y
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: y
Should prostitution be legalized: y
Are women equal to men: y

Are you

creationist: n
prolife: n
prolife in cases of rape: n
antivaxxer: n
flat earther: n
death penalty: y
anti-immigration: n
pro-guns: don't care, so keep em

Amen
01-04-2019, 10:11 AM
Lol @ Name: Qualm.

Let's be real, if you want others to be real.

Inno
01-04-2019, 10:27 AM
ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name: vator
Do you believe in God:yes
Religion:none
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets:possible
Do you believe in Climate Change:yes
Should gays be allowed to marry:yes
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized:why not
Should prostitution be legalized: yes
Are women equal to men: physically no, but yes

Are you

creationist: don’t know
prolife: woman’s choice
prolife in cases of rape:woman’s choice
antivaxxer: yes
flat earther:no
death penalty: yes
anti-immigration: I is one
pro-guns:yes

~RustyGunZ~
01-04-2019, 11:30 AM
Name: Scheinberg
Do you believe in God: y
Religion: agnostic
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: y
Do you believe in Climate Change: y
Should gays be allowed to marry: y
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: y
Should prostitution be legalized: y
Are women equal to men: y

Are you

creationist: kind of
prolife: yes
prolife in cases of rape: no
antivaxxer: no
flat earther: no
death penalty: no
anti-immigration: no
pro-guns: yes
_______

uh-oh
01-04-2019, 11:33 AM
Name: james halton IV
Do you believe in God: agnostic
Religion: no
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets:yes
Do you believe in Climate Change:yes *
Should gays be allowed to marry:yes
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized:yes
Should prostitution be legalized: yes
Are women equal to men: no *

Are you

creationist: no
prolife: no
prolife in cases of rape: no
antivaxxer: no
flat earther: no
death penalty: yes
anti-immigration:no *
pro-guns:yes


*'s explained. I believe in climate change, i believe humans contribute to it, i dont believe we should change anything however. Women arent equal to men. You could rephase it to men arent equal to women and id still agree. We are different. Lastly im not anti immigration, im anti illegal immigration. Leaving out tjhe word illegal makes it a different question.

Destroyer
01-04-2019, 11:45 AM
ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name: erik
Do you believe in God:no
Religion:none
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: possible but unlikely at the same time as us close enough to ever know
Do you believe in Climate Change: it’s a fact, not something to “believe in”
Should gays be allowed to marry: of course
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized:yes
Should prostitution be legalized: no
Are women equal to men: physically no, otherwise yes

Are you

creationist: no
prolife: no
prolife in cases of rape: no
antivaxxer: no
flat earther: hell no
death penalty: I’ll pull the switch
anti-immigration: no
pro-guns: not a gun owner. Not anti-gun either

~RustyGunZ~
01-04-2019, 11:51 AM
Destroyer you would welcome your wife being killed by the state if she was falsely imprisoned?

Also curious about the no to prostitution

Destroyer
01-04-2019, 11:55 AM
Bitch let me have my beliefs wtf

uh-oh
01-04-2019, 12:07 PM
Explain the reasoning behind no prostitution or FIGHT ME

Chill Phil
01-04-2019, 12:12 PM
Chill Phil finally got something going...

~RustyGunZ~
01-04-2019, 12:12 PM
Bitch let me have my beliefs wtf

JUST TRYIJF TO TALK ABOUR LIKE SERIOUS THINGS EXCHANGE IDEAS MAYBE YOUR REASONING WILL SWAY ME TONYOUR VIEWS MAN

CHILL PHILL WAS RIGHT

Destroyer
01-04-2019, 12:37 PM
There are good arguments for the legalization and regulation of prostitution
It just doesn’t sit right with me, I dunno why

Geno
01-04-2019, 12:44 PM
Name:
Genocide

Do you believe in God:
not God as we understand him through what the bible says. But i believe in a higher power/s. Or that is to say.. I believe entities greater than me/us do exist.

Religion: raised Catholic. Converted to a form of satanism. Now i dont practice any religion

Do you believe in Life on Other Planets:
yes. Absolutely. Life is a broad word. Inteligent life? Yes i believe there is.

Do you believe in Climate Change:
yes, ive been around for 36 years. 37 feb 16th. The climate has definitely changed in my time

Should gays be allowed to marry:
sure. Idc tbh
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: havnt put any thought into this subject. Undecided

Should prostitution be legalized:
idk. This is a can of worms subject and i rather not get into it here. So i will answer undecided.

Are women equal to men: in some ways -yes. In others -no. And that goes both ways. Vice-a-versa

Are you

creationist:
No

prolife:
No. I am prochoice. As i have demonstrated in the past.

prolife in cases of rape:
see above

antivaxxer: of course not. My kids have gotten vaccines

flat earther:undecided

death penalty:
Maybe. In some cases

anti-immigration: legally -no. Illegally -yes

pro-guns: sure

boof
01-04-2019, 02:15 PM
Name: mike
Do you believe in God: the god in us all
Religion: they have nice ideas sometimes
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: yea
Do you believe in Climate Change: yea
Should gays be allowed to marry: yea
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: yea
Should prostitution be legalized: yea
Are women equal to men: too vague

Are you

creationist: not sure
prolife: prochoice
prolife in cases of rape: wtf
antivaxxer: anti flu vax
flat earther: no
death penalty: in extreme cases only
anti-immigration: no
pro-guns: yea

Exis
01-05-2019, 12:11 AM
Name: Noah
Do you believe in God: No
Religion: Jedi
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: Not Sure
Do you believe in Climate Change: Yes
Should gays be allowed to marry: Hell No
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: Yes
Should prostitution be legalized: No
Are women equal to men: Absolutely

creationist: No
prolife: No
prolife in cases of rape: No
antivaxxer: No
flat earther: No
death penalty: Yes
anti-immigration: No
pro-guns: No, but if I was black Yes

Witty
01-05-2019, 07:37 AM
ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name: Darryl
Do you believe in God: No
Religion: None
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: I believe in the possibility
Do you believe in Climate Change: Of course
Should gays be allowed to marry: Yeah, why would I give a shit?
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: yes
Should prostitution be legalized: No
Are women equal to men: I'm not sure what you mean by this question. They should and do have equal opportunity, but they are not the same as men. We have distinct differences.

Are you

creationist: No
prolife: Undecided
prolife in cases of rape: No
antivaxxer: No
flat earther: No
death penalty: No
anti-immigration: No
pro-guns: Undecided

Exis
01-05-2019, 08:05 AM
Darryl sounds so un Irish...

Chill Phil
01-05-2019, 10:07 AM
Darryl sounds so un Irish...

It's Irish as fuck, bro.

DMS
01-05-2019, 02:32 PM
ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name:
Do you believe in God:
Religion:
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets:
Do you believe in Climate Change:
Should gays be allowed to marry:
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized:
Should prostitution be legalized:
Are women equal to men:

Are you

creationist:
prolife:
prolife in cases of rape:
antivaxxer:
flat earther:
death penalty:
anti-immigration:
pro-guns:

I’m agnostic, abortion is murder, climate change is real, all the others idgaf about answering.

Destroyer
01-05-2019, 03:17 PM
If abortion is murder, god is the biggest child murderer to ever live, by far.

Orc
01-05-2019, 03:28 PM
Name: TJ
Do you believe in God: More like a higher purpose/energy
Religion: No
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: Mathematically probable so yes
Do you believe in Climate Change: Yes
Should gays be allowed to marry: Yes
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: yes
Should prostitution be legalized: Yes
Are women equal to men: Yes

Are you

creationist: No
prolife: Women’s choice
prolife in cases of rape: Women’s choice
antivaxxer: No
flat earther: No
death penalty: Yes
anti-immigration: No
pro-guns: No

Kill Spree
01-05-2019, 03:29 PM
I’m agnostic, abortion is murder, climate change is real, all the others idgaf about answering.

You should have been murdered

DMS
01-05-2019, 04:17 PM
You should have been murdered

No u

Eŋg
01-05-2019, 05:34 PM
what even is this

~RustyGunZ~
01-05-2019, 06:35 PM
If abortion is murder, god is the biggest child murderer to ever live, by far.

Why does abortion being murder have to be linked to religion?

This is the problem. Left vs right is such a clusterfuck of sheep mentality that everything HAS to be how your sides voted position thinks it is.

Destroyer
01-05-2019, 06:42 PM
Because the idea of abortion being murder has its origins in religion
Not necessarily the religious texts, which funnily seem to support it, but most proponents of the “abortion is murder” mentality, are of the religious ilk
But you already know that and clearly just want to argue with someone so, what’s up Knuck?
You good?

~RustyGunZ~
01-05-2019, 07:00 PM
Because the idea of abortion being murder has its origins in religion
Not necessarily the religious texts, which funnily seem to support it, but most proponents of the “abortion is murder” mentality, are of the religious ilk
But you already know that and clearly just want to argue with someone so, what’s up Knuck?
You good?

Yeah man

But it’s bigger than that, your answer is the easy answer that deflects any serious thought

Abortion being murder is scientific

Destroyer
01-05-2019, 07:04 PM
Not really. If you define life as viable outside of the body, which aborted fetuses certainly aren’t. Like they legit are clumps of cells at that point and speaking as someone who went through a miscarriage, it’s literally the same thing. And I don’t consider either the loss of a life. The loss of a potential life, sure, but not the loss of a life. So not death, and not murder.

~RustyGunZ~
01-05-2019, 07:23 PM
Not really. If you define life as viable outside of the body, which aborted fetuses certainly aren’t. Like they legit are clumps of cells at that point and speaking as someone who went through a miscarriage, it’s literally the same thing. And I don’t consider either the loss of a life. The loss of a potential life, sure, but not the loss of a life. So not death, and not murder.

I also experienced a miscarriage and feel the opposite of you. It’s what made me more prolife.

Guess some people value life more

uh-oh
01-05-2019, 07:35 PM
Not really. If you define life as viable outside of the body, which aborted fetuses certainly aren’t. Like they legit are clumps of cells at that point and speaking as someone who went through a miscarriage, it’s literally the same thing. And I don’t consider either the loss of a life. The loss of a potential life, sure, but not the loss of a life. So not death, and not murder.

personal opinions don't change the science on it. i don't see it as MURDER the same way i don't see manslaughter as murder, or defending your self as MURDER.

but its killing a life for sure. i mean but its all semantics and where people want to draw a line. im sure you'd think different if it was 8 months in the womb, even though it still doesn't "exist" yet

like i'd feel zero guilt having a chick take a plan b but as soon as there is a confirmed pregnancy i'd feel like we killed a life cuz the shit was seeded

the genetics mixed yadig

but word even though i feel like its killing a life i don't think it should be legislated one way or the other. i just think its weird how people pretend its something its not. a collection of cells, lol. im a collection of cells too. every living thing is a collection of cells lol

Destroyer
01-05-2019, 07:36 PM
In this case, some people don’t understand when life begins

Destroyer
01-05-2019, 07:42 PM
I mean, at the core, I don’t really give a shit
It’s not my decision to make for other people
Just like it’s not my decision to tell other people to procreate
I’d never advocate for someone to have an abortion over the alternatives but people deserve the right to decide what they believe about it and what works best for them. If you are truly pro life you’re not going to be for people bringing a bunch of unwanted children into the world that they then abuse and treat like shit.

uh-oh
01-05-2019, 07:44 PM
In this case, some people don’t understand when life begins

look into the difference between a cell and an organism friend.

the moment there is a zygote it behaves as an organism, every single form of growth is initiated by the new unique cells created by the mixing of the sperm and the egg, from blocking other sperm from attaching, to creating its organs etc.

its not a collection of human cells. its a new human organism growing into a human.

a baby isn't a rocket scientist, and a zygote isn't a baby. but its an independent life form of its own. its more of a parasite than anything else. but its an independent life in terms of science doggie

uh-oh
01-05-2019, 07:49 PM
I mean, at the core, I don’t really give a shit
It’s not my decision to make for other people
Just like it’s not my decision to tell other people to procreate
I’d never advocate for someone to have an abortion over the alternatives but people deserve the right to decide what they believe about it and what works best for them. If you are truly pro life you’re not going to be for people bringing a bunch of unwanted children into the world that they then abuse and treat like shit.

agreed 100 percent

its not my decision to make for others. and im a hypocrite as well, because i think someone who kills an actual baby should be put in prison. so i place more value on a human life that exists outside of a woman much more. and on the same side of the coin if a man murders a pregnant woman i don't have a problem with him getting charged with 2 murders. but thats more because it wasn't his decision for that life to enter the world or not.

but word, we're all on the same page im sure, we just have different outlooks on the process

Destroyer
01-05-2019, 07:56 PM
Apparently, because I also agree with everything you just typed

~RustyGunZ~
01-05-2019, 08:17 PM
personal opinions don't change the science on it. i don't see it as MURDER the same way i don't see manslaughter as murder, or defending your self as MURDER.

but its killing a life for sure. i mean but its all semantics and where people want to draw a line. im sure you'd think different if it was 8 months in the womb, even though it still doesn't "exist" yet

like i'd feel zero guilt having a chick take a plan b but as soon as there is a confirmed pregnancy i'd feel like we killed a life cuz the shit was seeded

the genetics mixed yadig

but word even though i feel like its killing a life i don't think it should be legislated one way or the other. i just think its weird how people pretend its something its not. a collection of cells, lol. im a collection of cells too. every living thing is a collection of cells lol

Great post

veritas
01-05-2019, 08:32 PM
Life starts at conception.

~RustyGunZ~
01-05-2019, 08:51 PM
Life starts at conception.

Fact

Qualm
01-05-2019, 09:10 PM
naw. The only reason people feel pain is because of their brain, there are people with neurological malfunctions that cause them to not even feel pain, so you could shoot/stab them and they won’t even notice. That poses the question “is it still unethical to hurt them?” And I say ‘yes’ because there’s still the effect of the wound and the effect of possibly dying, and regardless of whether they feel pain, they may still want to have their life, they will still deal with all the physical ramifications of being hurt. Why do they want life? Because their brain tells them to. Why do they deal with those ramifications? Because their brain processes their existence and distresss associated with them.It’s a biological imperative that developed through thousands of years of evolution where people fear death and want life. Which makes sense, because any species that didn’t would’ve already died out.

But to ultimately understand that the only reason humans desire life/fear death is because neurologically they’re preconditioned to is the key. A baby that hasn’t formed a brain or who isn’t cognizant of their existence can’t desire life or fear death, they’re nothing but an inanimate object.

Saying life begins at conception is stupid af. Life only begins when a baby can neurologically process it, which means that a baby being forced into an impoverished home that can’t sustain a baby becomes unethical the moment it’s born. It’s essentially saying “we’re going to destroy this inanimate object” vs. “we’re going to force this cognizant human being to live their entire life in a home where they’re not wanted”. Option B is unequivocally the unethical one

But the more important issue brings us back to the trolley problem. The world is overpopulated, and we can disagree on the timespan but you’re ignorant if you don’t acknowledge that the expansion of humans threatens the entire human race, and anyone who condones families having 4+ children are choosing to kill the 5 over the 1.

Now sure, there are more elegant ways to implement birth control but nobody on the religious side of that fence are proposing those ideals

Destroyer
01-05-2019, 09:13 PM
Life starts at conception.

I mean you can’t just say that because look at zelph who was carried to term

veritas
01-05-2019, 09:27 PM
I see the bait you threw out, please do not take my not responding to it as a disrespect for it. It was nice. I just refuse to pick on Zelph.

~RustyGunZ~
01-05-2019, 09:37 PM
naw. The only reason people feel pain is because of their brain, there are people with neurological malfunctions that cause them to not even feel pain, so you could shoot/stab them and they won’t even notice. That poses the question “is it still unethical to hurt them?” And I say ‘yes’ because there’s still the affect of the womb and the affect of possibly dying and regardless of whether they feel pain, they may still want to have their life. Why do they want life? Because their brain tells them to. It’s a biological imperative that developed through thousands of years of evolution where people fear death and want life. Which makes sense, because any species that didn’t would’ve already died out.

But to ultimately understand that the only reason humans desire life/fear death is because neurologically they’re preconditioned to is the key. A baby that hasn’t formed a brain or who isn’t cognizant of their existence can’t desire life or fear death, they’re nothing but an inanimate object.

Saying life begins at conception is stupid af. Life only begins when a baby can neurologically process it, which means that a baby being forced into an impoverished home that can’t sustain a baby becomes unethical the moment it’s born. It’s essentially saying “we’re going to destroy this inanimate object” vs. “we’re going to force this cognizant human being to live their entire life in a home where they’re not wanted”. Option B is unequivocally the unethical one

But the more important issue brings us back to the trolley problem. The world is overpopulated, and we can disagree on the timespan but you’re ignorant if you don’t acknowledge that the expansion of humans threatens the entire human race, and anyone who condones families having 4+ children are choosing to kill the 5 over the 1.

Now sure, there are more elegant ways to implement birth control but nobody on the religious side of that fence are proposing those ideals

Only in 2019 can someone like you exist

You’re a moron, and as a pro-lifer I wish you were aborted

Plot
01-05-2019, 09:49 PM
so spermatoza is not living?
They wriggle and swim?

Qualm
01-05-2019, 09:55 PM
Only in 2019 can someone like you exist

You’re a moron, and as a pro-lifer I wish you were aborted

glad I could convert u

uh-oh
01-06-2019, 01:00 AM
so spermatoza is not living?
They wriggle and swim?
they are "living"

but they aren't organisms, they're cells. if you created a perfect enviornment for sperm to thrive in, they'd just die out, because they cant reproduce on their own. its just a fancy cell basically, their purpose is to move your genetic material into an egg, like how white blood cells move to fight illnesses/infections etc

Exis
01-06-2019, 03:13 AM
It's Irish as fuck, bro.

Then I will close my cake hole lol, yo is you the Badweather from RF? If so, now I get the comedic shit...you were always droppin' one liners there, I wish you well on your 5 minute set bro...I remember you could really spit some heat in a verse also.

Your shit on what Geno posted was dope, kudos.

Amen
01-06-2019, 08:25 AM
WTF is happening here on NC, guys.

Chill Phil
01-06-2019, 08:53 AM
Then I will close my cake hole lol, yo is you the Badweather from RF? If so, now I get the comedic shit...you were always droppin' one liners there, I wish you well on your 5 minute set bro...I remember you could really spit some heat in a verse also.

Your shit on what Geno posted was dope, kudos.

Thanks, my guy. I am Badweather! I haven't been on RF in a long long time. Like...years. the last track I posted there was this joint called "Killing Me," which was recorded like 4 years ago.

Was your username Exis over there too?

Sharp
01-06-2019, 10:14 AM
antivaxxer: anti flu vax


Of everything in this thread this is the one I'd like to see elaborated on, if you don't mind

DMS
01-06-2019, 11:56 AM
I mean you can’t just say that because look at zelph who was carried to term

This debate is so fucking simple guys, it really is.

What is a philosophical person( someone who needs moral consideration*)?
Give me any fucking answer I’ll prove it wrong through analogy.

* when I say consideration, I mean treatment as best as possible. So if a child and a grown ass man were in a burning building and you could only save one, both are deserving they be saved by you, but the child deserves it more most would think.

Amen
01-06-2019, 12:13 PM
I really wish Lenox would just find you already and beat you up.

DMS
01-06-2019, 12:19 PM
I really wish Lenox would just find you already and beat you up.

He actually just asked me to write a 16 verse EP with him like 4 weeks ago

Exis
01-06-2019, 04:38 PM
Thanks, my guy. I am Badweather! I haven't been on RF in a long long time. Like...years. the last track I posted there was this joint called "Killing Me," which was recorded like 4 years ago.

Was your username Exis over there too?

I think RF died around 2012? Or there about...When some nigga forgot to pay the electricity bill lol.Yeah bro I was Exis there, & I remember that track, shit was tight.

bleak
01-06-2019, 04:54 PM
ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name: bleak
Do you believe in God: no
Religion: it's taking me a while so I guess agnostic
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: ye
Do you believe in Climate Change: there is no believing in climate change, it's a fact.
Should gays be allowed to marry: why not
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: idk what this means, if it means suicide then sure why not the population is out of control
Should prostitution be legalized: obv
Are women equal to men: we are all human, it depends on the man and woman. Nunez is clearly superior to the average man but would lose at her weight class to a world class man fighter

Are you

creationist: na
prolife: no
prolife in cases of rape: no
antivaxxer: lol
flat earther:
death penalty:
anti-immigration:
pro-guns: yes

I believe in free will and original thought

Exis
01-07-2019, 03:37 AM
Why should prostitution be legalized? Just curious...

Exis
01-07-2019, 03:39 AM
Why not just go2 a brothel where hoes are all checked out medical wise instead of pickin' up some aids riddled slut...

uh-oh
01-07-2019, 05:26 AM
a brothel is legalized prostitution

Exis
01-07-2019, 05:44 AM
Good call...

uh-oh
01-07-2019, 06:20 AM
but word thats part of why it should be legalized

if it was, there would be no foul play involved, pimps, human trafficking, etc. etc. along with testing for diseases and all the rest of it. just regulate it. plus then you could tax it and give the government more money to blow frivolously on things that don't benefit the citizens, the government loves doing that

win win

Exis
01-07-2019, 07:24 AM
I agree fam, read shit wrong...my bad.

Diode
01-07-2019, 09:13 AM
ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name: Diode

Do you believe in God: Undecided

Religion: Raised episcopal, presently agnostic

Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: That highly depends on your qualification of "life"

Do you believe in Climate Change: Yes

Should gays be allowed to marry: Yes

Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: Yes

Should prostitution be legalized: Yes (and regulated)

Are women equal to men: This is too broad of a question (no pun intended)

Are you

creationist: no
prolife: no
prolife in cases of rape: no
antivaxxer: no
flat earther: no
death penalty: yes
anti-immigration: no (though this is also entirely too broad)
pro-guns: with heavy regulation

fun!

Plot
01-07-2019, 09:13 AM
In Australia we have legalized brothels, but its illegal to solicit on the street.
I think it's all illegal in the states. Exis

Diode
01-07-2019, 09:26 AM
In Australia we have legalized brothels, but its illegal to solicit on the street.
I think it's all illegal in the states. Exis

there are a scant few exceptions. but yes.

~RustyGunZ~
01-07-2019, 09:27 AM
Surprised by all the support for the death penalty

Seems to go hand in hand with support for mass genocide too so I guess people really just don’t value life that isn’t theirs

Diode
01-07-2019, 09:33 AM
Surprised by all the support for the death penalty

Seems to go hand in hand with support for mass genocide too so I guess people really just don’t value life that isn’t theirs

there was no defined scope, so assumption was "if in any case you support it, then say yes"

~RustyGunZ~
01-07-2019, 09:36 AM
there was no defined scope, so assumption was "if in any case you support it, then say yes"

I think he was trying to separate the abortion part with the two questions

The death penalty I feel you can’t half support

In a world with machine learning video enhancements and dna being easily placed anywhere, I just don’t see how someone can support the state choosing when someone can be killed like cattle while the state pays for their housing for 3-10 years

Diode
01-07-2019, 10:03 AM
I think he was trying to separate the abortion part with the two questions

The death penalty I feel you can’t half support

In a world with machine learning video enhancements and dna being easily placed anywhere, I just don’t see how someone can support the state choosing when someone can be killed like cattle while the state pays for their housing for 3-10 years

methinks your understanding of how far technology has gotten is a bit misplaced.

~RustyGunZ~
01-07-2019, 10:22 AM
methinks your understanding of how far technology has gotten is a bit misplaced.

Meknows it’s not

I’m 3 months from being a post grad comp sci student stop gaslighting my tech knowledge on netcees you tit

Take away the deep fakes aspect that you’re in denial of though and just in general. You’re supporting a slow process to eventually taking a life that might be innocent and if they are guilty, putting someone out of their misery. Just seems like a bad idea from all angles. I’m sure it’s emotionally motivated for most people, cus no one wants murderers and rapist around. Just sad people are more about their own protection and safety than that of others to such an extent they support mass genocide and hangings yet think we live in a new civil world that others are denying as worth the progress.

Diode
01-07-2019, 10:26 AM
Meknows it’s not

I’m 3 months from being a post grad comp sci student stop gaslighting my tech knowledge on netcees you tit

Take away the deep fakes aspect that you’re in denial of though and just in general. You’re supporting a slow process to eventually taking a life that might be innocent and if they are guilty, putting someone out of their misery. Just seems like a bad idea from all angles. I’m sure it’s emotionally motivated for most people, cus no one wants murderers and rapist around. Just sad people are more about their own protection and safety than that of others to such an extent they support mass genocide and hangings yet think we live in a new civil world that others are denying as worth the progress.

I'm not gaslighting a goddamned thing - deepfakes aren't even remotely close to the level where the average podunk police department is out there providing false evidence via doctored video. You know how machine learning works Mr. Post-Grad. It needs data to work. High quality data. Which also says nothing of audio, which is even further behind/implausible for the average criminal. Nor can they "plant dna evidence" that would survive a trial and rounds of appeals. Fact. Fact, fact, fact.

So yes, dear Knucklehead, if a perpetrator is 100% undoubtedly caught on camera or in person or hell, pleads guilty with no question about whatever act worthy of death they committed, I am for execution.

~RustyGunZ~
01-07-2019, 10:36 AM
I'm not gaslighting a goddamned thing - deepfakes aren't even remotely close to the level where the average podunk police department is out there providing false evidence via doctored video. You know how machine learning works Mr. Post-Grad. It needs data to work. High quality data. Which also says nothing of audio, which is even further behind/implausible for the average criminal. Nor can they "plant dna evidence" that would survive a trial and rounds of appeals. Fact. Fact, fact, fact.

So yes, dear Knucklehead, if a perpetrator is 100% undoubtedly caught on camera or in person or hell, pleads guilty with no question about whatever act worthy of death they committed, I am for execution.

Ugh

These are the post I used to fight you on, but I like getting along with you. I know you don’t mean to be overly egotistical it’s just your daily mindset to sell sell sell

That’s not how most states (if any?) handle the death penalty though. General convictions with evidence that can and has been wrong go into it too. It’s also a lot of money invested. I’d rather have them in gen pop and more likely to have a worse time and maybe even get got on the prisoners dime.

Qualm
01-07-2019, 11:17 AM
Surprised by all the support for the death penalty

Seems to go hand in hand with support for mass genocide too so I guess people really just don’t value life that isn’t theirs

out of curiosity, what's your position on animal life/meat. Not gonna start a debate from this, just wondering.

Diode
01-07-2019, 11:19 AM
Ugh

These are the post I used to fight you on, but I like getting along with you. I know you don’t mean to be overly egotistical it’s just your daily mindset to sell sell sell

That’s not how most states (if any?) handle the death penalty though. General convictions with evidence that can and has been wrong go into it too. It’s also a lot of money invested. I’d rather have them in gen pop and more likely to have a worse time and maybe even get got on the prisoners dime.

That wasn't the question re: death penalty though. It was just the concept. Since there are circumstances in which I am in favor, I couldn't in good conscience mark "no"

uh-oh
01-07-2019, 12:09 PM
Yea i said yes to the death penalty under the presumption of how it should work. Like you fucked a kid? Hang them. Now. You dont get to sit in death row etc etc.

But im not for prison at all, it needs completely reformed. If you commit a crime you should go to basically a halfway house with job skill training etc. So you got a curfew etc like probation/house arrest but you arent locked in a cell doing nothing

And if the crime you committed is too heinous for that situation to make sense, hang them. Ropes are cheap and reusable, spend half the prison money on job training bing bang boom

~RustyGunZ~
01-07-2019, 12:16 PM
out of curiosity, what's your position on animal life/meat. Not gonna start a debate from this, just wondering.

I’ve been actively eating less meat, and what I do eat is free range and grass fed that’s raised by family members

Plot
01-07-2019, 12:17 PM
Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished

DMS
01-07-2019, 12:23 PM
Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished

So is the planet valuable intrinsically but human life isn’t? Or is existence in over-abundance taking away are personhood without us being responsible? Aren’t more people dying in America than are being born? This raises allot of questions.

~RustyGunZ~
01-07-2019, 12:30 PM
Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished

I mean you’re an unemployed alcoholic faggot so makes sense you don’t care about life if your own isn’t valuable to you

Diode
01-07-2019, 12:42 PM
Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished

whoa whoa whoa hang on voltaire

we got an edgelord over here

Exis
01-07-2019, 04:25 PM
Plot I've lived in Australia for almost 18 years, I know there are legalized brothels here & altho I'm American I can't comment on what's happenin' in the States as I honestly don't know how things work in that regard as I haven't been back in almost two decades bro...

& I'm all for the death penalty when it's comes to rape, child molestation, terror related crimes etc. hence why I said yes to that question.

~RustyGunZ~
01-07-2019, 04:32 PM
That wasn't the question re: death penalty though. It was just the concept. Since there are circumstances in which I am in favor, I couldn't in good conscience mark "no"

Word

veritas
01-07-2019, 07:43 PM
Fascinating thread. Very fascinating.

Plot
01-07-2019, 10:42 PM
Shut up moron

veritas
01-07-2019, 10:58 PM
Why?

Plot
01-08-2019, 01:32 AM
We need to cull the weak

Exis
01-08-2019, 05:52 AM
I'm probably in that class lol...On the real though Plot, why so angry?...

veritas
01-08-2019, 08:26 AM
We need to cull the weak

Who are the weak?

Qualm
01-08-2019, 08:33 AM
Who are the weak?

anyone who cant bench 120

Amen
01-08-2019, 08:35 AM
That would be Aero.

Exis
01-08-2019, 08:48 AM
So half his weight...Poor Asians.

veritas
01-08-2019, 08:58 AM
Plot

Exis
01-08-2019, 09:06 AM
It's like midnight in Oz now fam, Plot would be drunk as fuck...