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Victor.
05-10-2020, 09:42 AM
This shit is fire



Damn



I slept on white rappers too hard


ill bill a problem too !





Somebody help me wit some dope boom bap underground shit



Thx

Blue Bayou
05-10-2020, 10:11 AM
Hell yeah. Vinnie da gawd


Checkout Snowgoons

Bomb Bard
05-10-2020, 10:18 AM
This shit is fire



Damn



I slept on white rappers too hard


ill bill a problem too !





Somebody help me wit some dope boom bap underground shit



Thx

Check out some Apathy and Demigods

Blue Bayou
05-10-2020, 10:19 AM
AOTP as well if you've never listened is a must

Inno
05-10-2020, 10:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsK-OxJQJP8

Amen
05-10-2020, 10:38 AM
Could of sworn you called them Trash in a dull boy thread as he praised them.

I recall you calling it “Nerd Rap” or “backpack rappers”

Happy Mother’s Day tho, pussy.

Victor.
05-10-2020, 10:39 AM
Could of sworn you called them Trash in a dull boy thread as he praised them.

I recall you calling it “Nerd Rap” or “backpack rappers”

Pro tip 1


Normal humans change there mind




Pro tip 2


Get off my dick

Victor.
05-10-2020, 10:40 AM
Yeah army of pharaohs is fire and got some Rican dudes in it


Listened to underground shit all night




Sean price a beast too


I never tried this kind of music


Ra the rugged man a problem too

Wavy Crockett
05-10-2020, 10:44 AM
Yeah army of pharaohs is fire and got some Rican dudes in it


Listened to underground shit all night




Sean price a beast too


I never tried this kind of music


Ra the rugged man a problem too

Troll thread noted

Victor.
05-10-2020, 10:50 AM
My bad forget to mention this is a serious thread and prop17ing will not be tolerated

Inno
05-10-2020, 11:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmIH8Sua0Yw

Victor.
05-10-2020, 12:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsK-OxJQJP8

That was dope

~RustyGunZ~
05-10-2020, 12:20 PM
gone

Victor.
05-10-2020, 01:38 PM
Inno


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBMnvT9n6nA

Clout
05-10-2020, 03:26 PM
This shit is fire



Damn



I slept on white rappers too hard


ill bill a problem too !





Somebody help me wit some dope boom bap underground shit



Thx

One Be Lo is the man, vick


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmpAN1c1ivY

Geno
05-10-2020, 11:16 PM
Man... Dog smh

Yes youve got a lot of work to put in on jmt. Damn. First and foremost that violent by design LP is essential.. Beats are outta this world and vinnie goes in as well as jus allah. Stoop was jmt at the time and he makes the raw beats. Think he stopped after 3rd or fourth lp. But ya man. If you aint hip you have to have that violent by design lp. Whoa

Peep apathy and or celph titled (demi gods) apathy way better though and has some ill solo lps/mixtapes


Another raw ass album dog mannn....
Peep non phixion the phewture is now LP
Phewwww i think they spell phewture like that. Ill bill may be one of these cats actually. Not certain. But someone from that circle is NP


Also... 7L and Esoteric.. Eso has a wierd accent. But he fucking rips shit once you get used to his sound. Hes an animal. And 7L makes raw beats


ALSO VERY ESSENTIAL ALBUMS.....
Army of the pharoahs (AOTP as mentioned earlier in thread) 3 or more albums??? Not sure, Have to google those. Its basically all the dope white boys. Jmt non phixion ill bill all them white dudes. Has some jus allah shit and even the ghost gets down with them... Yep, styles p ran with army for a while trying to step his game and depth up. Monster albums with slammin beats


Peep diabolicS Liar and a Thief album. One of my all time fav albums. Diabolic fucking goes off on this lmao. The beats are amazing. Very nasty cat. Shoulda name dropped this first

Pharaohs Army
05-11-2020, 11:51 PM
Victor
I better post Digital War in case you haven't heard it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxNtPL0lT58

Ouch
05-12-2020, 05:10 AM
I Dunno what ya talking about.. but blue mentioned Snow Goons

I remember that shit from like 10 years ago, snow goons were the shit. On some RA the Rugged man type shit

Ouch
05-12-2020, 06:39 AM
i've heard that vinnie paz song before... never saw the video

but yeah some white rappers are good... atmosphere... aesop rock and those dudes, but other than 'hip hop heads' they aren't known or respected. They have their own lane or did at one point and go with it. I listened to all that shit, but growing up people who I was around would be like wtf is that. I heard about it on here.. no one I knew listened to it and when i'd play it they'd be like nahh.

But regaurdless I think white rappers don't have it too easy, you could say Em.. but he was an exception, and a lot of the dudes I grew up with and stuff wasnt even listening to eminem at all. I did, but I was an exception.

So yeah the truth is white rappers have a hard road unless they get like a niche market or whatever like atmosphere/aesop/brother ali... or some total weird niche shit like ICP or something.

Although back in the day who was the main buyers of rap music, it was middle class to upper middle class white people buying CD's. And they don't want to see someone who looks like them... they want to see/hear something they aren't used to hearing, some ghetto black dude or at least someone pretending to be a ghetto black dude.

Ouch
05-12-2020, 06:46 AM
yeah blacks listen to rap... or some do at least, but hands down the majority of people back in the day buying CD's were middle class white people... and they aren't really looking to listen to some introspective white guy poetry rap..... that hits too close to home

they're looking for some Juvi back that ass up niggers with gold teef and chains doin hood rat stuff with they hood rat friends and smokin wif ciggwettes... shit they aren't used to seeing or hearing... thats part of the appeal


I don't know who buys music now

Ouch
05-12-2020, 06:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcqOgnQyXp4

hood rat things, and smokes wif ciggawettes reference for you... lol as if things weren't bad enough and I don't look like a piece of shit... I just wanted to let you know i have a friend that smokes wif ciggawettes

Victor.
05-12-2020, 09:27 AM
Man... Dog smh

Yes youve got a lot of work to put in on jmt. Damn. First and foremost that violent by design LP is essential.. Beats are outta this world and vinnie goes in as well as jus allah. Stoop was jmt at the time and he makes the raw beats. Think he stopped after 3rd or fourth lp. But ya man. If you aint hip you have to have that violent by design lp. Whoa

Peep apathy and or celph titled (demi gods) apathy way better though and has some ill solo lps/mixtapes


Another raw ass album dog mannn....
Peep non phixion the phewture is now LP
Phewwww i think they spell phewture like that. Ill bill may be one of these cats actually. Not certain. But someone from that circle is NP


Also... 7L and Esoteric.. Eso has a wierd accent. But he fucking rips shit once you get used to his sound. Hes an animal. And 7L makes raw beats


ALSO VERY ESSENTIAL ALBUMS.....
Army of the pharoahs (AOTP as mentioned earlier in thread) 3 or more albums??? Not sure, Have to google those. Its basically all the dope white boys. Jmt non phixion ill bill all them white dudes. Has some jus allah shit and even the ghost gets down with them... Yep, styles p ran with army for a while trying to step his game and depth up. Monster albums with slammin beats


Peep diabolicS Liar and a Thief album. One of my all time fav albums. Diabolic fucking goes off on this lmao. The beats are amazing. Very nasty cat. Shoulda name dropped this first



Ima dig into all this on the weekend

Thank bro

Candy
05-12-2020, 09:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajNlKelKHCM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRTgWG77Fgo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l4ecGhr6hk

Geno
05-12-2020, 11:42 PM
Damn. Watching this brings back memmories of being in philly as a scrap. Fourties. Cyphers. Rooftops. Graffitti. Da phuckkk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtaRC9vHSgY

Objective
05-13-2020, 08:05 AM
I'll Bill's album Hour of Reprisal is my fav. Anything by JMT and AOTP is dope af, jmt was/is dope live acts as well.

Copywrite is dope. On mobile so a hassle to fix but I like this one link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyubIQ9syk

Eyedea is a personal fav of mine, he goes deep and alternative with his tracks but I usually introduce people to him with Big Shot. Might not be (probably not) what you're after tho - https://youtube.com/watch?v=X8mM0GErFnI
And this one hits home for many, depressive af tho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q87e6zNRJ3s

jamurai
05-13-2020, 10:16 AM
any jedi mind tricks journey should start with blood runs cold

Victor.
05-13-2020, 12:21 PM
Thank you all ! Can’t wait to dig into some of this

slecht
05-13-2020, 07:44 PM
Fire

Objective
05-13-2020, 09:18 PM
Also want to add: on The hour of Reprisal he starts the album off with this as the opening words: "Imagine you were given 1 hour, exactly 60 minutes and 0 seconds to put your entire life and the world around you in total perspective. What would you say, and what would it sound like?" Imo an album worth listening to from beginning to end, he put his soul into this one and I think it has been slept on.

Geno
05-13-2020, 11:08 PM
Eyo.. Apparently paz did a collab lbum with tragedy kadafi? Wtf


Camoflauge regime. Youtube it

Eviscerate
05-14-2020, 09:53 AM
One Be Lo is the man, vick


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmpAN1c1ivY

Definitely

Orc
05-14-2020, 11:58 AM
Can I come clean and say I’ve never heard any of this either

That video Geno posted was fire

Vulgar
05-14-2020, 06:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fline4DGXI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwNz0D8Te0

uh-oh
05-14-2020, 06:49 PM
lol at the tag

for those that have slept though, keep sleeping on 90 percent of all of this stuff. its trash.

early jedi mind tricks was fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DgQYdtA9Jw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey8T4pDmSQw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4j3nCcMJfM

most of army of the pharoahs is garbage. most of ill bill is garbage. all of RA the rugged man is trash.

mad whiteboy thug rap is eh for me. lol. paz can pull it off but he's that type of italian thats basically puerto rican. lol. but all that said there is some really solid shit in the genre, from these cats its just alot of who cares shit to sift through to find the gems, and all their sound evolved into basically 2006 forum rap and stayed there

Geno
05-14-2020, 11:05 PM
UI mean i have to agree with some of what uh oh saying. It does get very repetitious and playes quick.

I really fucked with visions of ghandi lp though. That one and violent by desogn were my 2 personal fav

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBAKDoFRG3g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOIdgQsuA-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUxrO7M8PE


Yoooo. After this track finishes let it keep playing til like 5:12 and it starts bangin again. Like 17 mins of ill nasty beats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAMgW38Fnn0

Geno
05-15-2020, 03:10 AM
Non phixion shit..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE8oPBi7hOc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7NgE8AIbXk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFLAzRMYgbk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hnI_O9tdVk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tcGf0Mmoi8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S69jj5SMOQ

Pharaohs Army
05-15-2020, 03:11 AM
drug music one of my favorite all time tracks

Objective
05-15-2020, 05:57 PM
lol at the tag

for those that have slept though, keep sleeping on 90 percent of all of this stuff. its trash.

In terms of early JMT that all is dope like you said, I agree. Other shit is definitely diving deeper into what they're doing and personal projects which ofc don't mesh with everyone.

Ouch
05-15-2020, 08:29 PM
yeah jedi mind tricks was cool, so was Ill Bill I've listened to them sparingly back in the day, can't say I ever really sat down and listened to whole albums and stuff like I did with other rappers though.

Ouch
05-15-2020, 08:30 PM
RA the rugged man but I Think that was already mentioned

Victor.
05-15-2020, 08:34 PM
Ouch you are the best bro

Victor.
05-17-2020, 11:17 AM
Weekends is for hipHop



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdFjj4hZiKE

El Muffin
05-17-2020, 04:17 PM
Sha hef - Krossed Out
Sha hef- Foot on they Neck

Candy
05-18-2020, 01:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYMNbeYPwC4

El Muffin
05-18-2020, 09:46 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bDdzBIaIMk8

Victor.
05-18-2020, 12:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYMNbeYPwC4

Yes this is one of those songs that I couldn’t hear twice


Apathy was kinda dope tho

Victor.
05-18-2020, 12:49 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bDdzBIaIMk8

He sound a lot like styles bro

Pakistani Hand Cannon
05-18-2020, 03:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ1qovdE94o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow0dlCS2HH4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6s2bbXrQJA

Concrete
05-19-2020, 02:56 PM
i've heard that vinnie paz song before... never saw the video

but yeah some white rappers are good... atmosphere... aesop rock and those dudes, but other than 'hip hop heads' they aren't known or respected. They have their own lane or did at one point and go with it. I listened to all that shit, but growing up people who I was around would be like wtf is that. I heard about it on here.. no one I knew listened to it and when i'd play it they'd be like nahh.

But regaurdless I think white rappers don't have it too easy, you could say Em.. but he was an exception, and a lot of the dudes I grew up with and stuff wasnt even listening to eminem at all. I did, but I was an exception.

So yeah the truth is white rappers have a hard road unless they get like a niche market or whatever like atmosphere/aesop/brother ali... or some total weird niche shit like ICP or something.

Although back in the day who was the main buyers of rap music, it was middle class to upper middle class white people buying CD's. And they don't want to see someone who looks like them... they want to see/hear something they aren't used to hearing, some ghetto black dude or at least someone pretending to be a ghetto black dude.

There's much truth here, as cd buying norwegian kid I can confirm. Aside from the fact that rap was exotic in lack of a better word the other music categories wasnt saying anything, we needed something different from all the bullshit love ballads that plagued the radio. I got into rap because it was explicit and unapologetic.

That being said I like white rappers like the old 3rd Bass and the later underground stuff.

This being one of my favorite white rap tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn4Y-NJsi3s

emurgencee
05-19-2020, 03:04 PM
Lol what the fuck?

Pharaohs Army
05-19-2020, 11:24 PM
uh-oh
If you can't get into AOTP I don't know what to tell you man. They have multiple good albums. Good beats too.

Objective
05-20-2020, 06:19 AM
Shit, I'm not the only Norwegian on these boards anymore now that Concrete is here? You one of them old hh.no forumheads or nah? Explain yoself.

Concrete
05-20-2020, 01:22 PM
Shit, I'm not the only Norwegian on these boards anymore now that Concrete is here? You one of them old hh.no forumheads or nah? Explain yoself.

Yeah I was there back in the day, and remember it being a decent battle-community until it became a great trolling community.
I cant say im very active these days but like to write some now and then.
Did you write there?

Objective
05-22-2020, 11:45 AM
Yeah I was there back in the day, and remember it being a decent battle-community until it became a great trolling community.
I cant say im very active these days but like to write some now and then.
Did you write there?

Not much. I wrote a little but was more interested in the trolling aspects or topical tourneys with exceptions for certain threads and discussions. I battled a little bit but not much. I remember Tannfeen, Bubba Mo, Jørn Jeezy and a few others. I felt there was a lot of elitism going on so I gave a shit tbh, when I wanted to get more serious the Homer controversy with newspapers and police getting involved it seemed to be the straw that broke the camels back, and hh.no died pretty quickly after that. Wish there were some sort of warning, a lot of sick texts and work got deleted just like that.

I hate the "I'm bored today"-persona I had on that site now, lol. But if you remember an annoying brat called Kringle saying shit for that purpose alone at times that would be me, wouldn't be surprised if you don't cus I wasn't that active and joined around 05. What was your name over there?

Concrete
05-22-2020, 02:21 PM
Not much. I wrote a little but was more interested in the trolling aspects or topical tourneys with exceptions for certain threads and discussions. I battled a little bit but not much. I remember Tannfeen, Bubba Mo, Jørn Jeezy and a few others. I felt there was a lot of elitism going on so I gave a shit tbh, when I wanted to get more serious the Homer controversy with newspapers and police getting involved it seemed to be the straw that broke the camels back, and hh.no died pretty quickly after that. Wish there were some sort of warning, a lot of sick texts and work got deleted just like that.

I hate the "I'm bored today"-persona I had on that site now, lol. But if you remember an annoying brat called Kringle saying shit for that purpose alone at times that would be me, wouldn't be surprised if you don't cus I wasn't that active and joined around 05. What was your name over there?

Yeah, I remember that name. Im not sure if we battled tho. I went by the name 'Sincere' (+ a couple of troll accounts for generelt section) and was active from 05 to 10. Bubba was dope in norwegian and there was some skilled english writers like Atil, Lurk, Apoplexy and blizzak, shout out to you fuckers if you ever read this.
The trolling definately got out of hand but I'd lie if I say it wasnt amusing.
Shame it closed down but that how it goes, anyways when I was mod and updating the archive I copied some of the classic verses. If I ever find it I can let you know, if you still care that is.
Anyways, sorry op for hijhacking this thread.

Objective
05-22-2020, 03:16 PM
Fuck yeah, Concrete! I'd love to read them! I bet the guys over at the Norwegian HipHop Discord or the fb group would get a kick out of it as well. Always got inspired to write some in Norwegian when I checked that stuff out. Lurk (remember I battled him and that was how I learned "Lurk" is an English word cus I tried to rhyme it with Skurk, young and stupid, lol) and Atil were beasts, the other names ring a bell but can't place them. Amusing for sure, the jokes were good times. I guess that's why I settled here as well, text section is serious stuff, people don't fuck around with votes and feedback is on point. Disc here is basically Generhelt pt.2, lol.

Ajax
05-22-2020, 06:06 PM
Violent by Design may be the best underground album ever made. Stoupe is a psycho on the boards. There’s a ton of other good stuff by them and their affiliates. But that album stands alone as masterpiece.

Concrete
05-23-2020, 01:08 PM
Fuck yeah, Concrete! I'd love to read them! I bet the guys over at the Norwegian HipHop Discord or the fb group would get a kick out of it as well. Always got inspired to write some in Norwegian when I checked that stuff out. Lurk (remember I battled him and that was how I learned "Lurk" is an English word cus I tried to rhyme it with Skurk, young and stupid, lol) and Atil were beasts, the other names ring a bell but can't place them. Amusing for sure, the jokes were good times. I guess that's why I settled here as well, text section is serious stuff, people don't fuck around with votes and feedback is on point. Disc here is basically Generhelt pt.2, lol.

Yeah site looks good, I'll see if can provide some value when im on here.
Anyways, if I ever find the file with the old verses I'll send it to you.

Witty
05-23-2020, 01:46 PM
Yeah site looks good, I'll see if can provide some value when im on here.
Anyways, if I ever find the file with the old verses I'll send it to you.

Hi Concrete.

I hope you die a slow and painful death

<3

Concrete
05-23-2020, 02:10 PM
Hi Concrete.

I hope you die a slow and painful death

<3

Thanks, one day I probably will.

Ouch
05-24-2020, 05:37 AM
he'd get laughed at in the bx... he's pretty nice but feels to me like he's using a low level cvoice to sound hard... still mhe seems alright

Ouch
05-24-2020, 05:38 AM
that dude would not only get laughed at where im from. he wouludn't even come there...

Objective
05-24-2020, 06:30 PM
Dopeness Concrete, looking forward to the file.

On topic: Bliss n eso are dope Aussie peeps imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r34MG8b_Z3A