View Full Version : Vaccine makes woman krump endlessly
Bet you won’t see that headline in the news
This video is actively being scrubbed by Facebook right now.
https://www.facebook.com/855975456/posts/10165092868885457
I told y’all this vaccine ain’t no good.
FB deleted this off her page by the way. Why would they do that I wonder??????
If this link stops working, just type “Shawn Skelton moderna” in FB search, tons of people are reposting it, it’s 3:44 long.
Here’s her profile with more updates:
https://www.facebook.com/shawn.skelton.73
Doctors have confirmed her shit is real, but inconclusive about the vaccine causing it. (Of course)
Answer
01-13-2021, 10:38 PM
At least she’s lit at the club
dull boy
01-13-2021, 10:55 PM
Coop is my main source of news. Thanks for this update.
That bitch rocking the pepto pismol shirt to. This a damn commercial?
Destroyer
01-13-2021, 11:31 PM
lmfaoooooo
she don’t have corona tho
Coop is my main source of news. Thanks for this update.
You’re welcome.
No lie
I made it through until she started crying wondering if this was real or not & in between laughing and a “wtf” face. But then I found this video:
https://ibb.co/kyyr5fx
And she was moving just like this other lady.
And several articles covered it.
At the end of the day I bet this is rare , but it ain’t making the news, it’s being deleted by FB.... red flags...
imagine catching this and doctors are like “idk but it ain’t the vaccine. “
You’re fucked
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 12:32 AM
take the vaccine people
Adverse
01-14-2021, 01:48 AM
So what then? You’re immune to COVID but susceptible to the mf jitterbug
fraze
01-14-2021, 05:13 AM
If you have a history of heightened allergic responses the vaccine can cause you to go into shock. This is a pretty standard thing with many vaccines. They will ask you about your allergy history before giving you the shot. (How do I know this stuff btw? From watching the news. It's very widely reported).
This is also the reason you're supposed to stay in observation after getting the corona virus vaccine. This is a highly treatable side effect (an epipen).
It's funny to me that we're hyper focused on a handful of people (literally in the 10s or 100s) that have a survivable response to the vaccine, but you have no problem ignoring 4000s people dying every day.
dull boy
01-14-2021, 05:26 AM
If you have a history of heightened allergic responses the vaccine can cause you to go into shock. This is a pretty standard thing with many vaccines. They will ask you about your allergy history before giving you the shot. (How do I know this stuff btw? From watching the news. It's very widely reported).
This is also the reason you're supposed to stay in observation after getting the corona virus vaccine. This is a highly treatable side effect (an epipen).
It's funny to me that we're hyper focused on a handful of people (literally in the 10s or 100s) that have a survivable response to the vaccine, but you have no problem ignoring 4000s people dying every day.
Boom
If you have a history of heightened allergic responses the vaccine can cause you to go into shock. This is a pretty standard thing with many vaccines. They will ask you about your allergy history before giving you the shot. (How do I know this stuff btw? From watching the news. It's very widely reported).
This is also the reason you're supposed to stay in observation after getting the corona virus vaccine. This is a highly treatable side effect (an epipen).
It's funny to me that we're hyper focused on a handful of people (literally in the 10s or 100s) that have a survivable response to the vaccine, but you have no problem ignoring 4000s people dying every day.
Coop is everything wrong with the world at the moment
If you have a history of heightened allergic responses the vaccine can cause you to go into shock. This is a pretty standard thing with many vaccines. They will ask you about your allergy history before giving you the shot. (How do I know this stuff btw? From watching the news. It's very widely reported).
This is also the reason you're supposed to stay in observation after getting the corona virus vaccine. This is a highly treatable side effect (an epipen).
It's funny to me that we're hyper focused on a handful of people (literally in the 10s or 100s) that have a survivable response to the vaccine, but you have no problem ignoring 4000s people dying every day.
Fraze swears he knows everything.
This ain’t shock dumbass. Shock doesn’t last every moment of the day like she said this is. The doctors who saw her didn’t say it was shock.
And no shit this is “RIGHT NOW” rare. Maybe that’s why I fuckin said it was? You can’t tell me with certainty this won’t happen to a lot more down the road. The experts who made the vaccine wouldn’t make that claim so how could you?
Also, 4000 aren’t dying a day from covid get your numbers straight
Coop is everything wrong with the world at the moment
Nah what’s wrong is ignorant infant minds like yours co-signing posts that are incorrect. Just use a few SAT words and you’re impressed. You go get that vaccine and come back and let’s us know how long you start Harlem shaking... if that’s even possible at your age
Told y’all fraze the feds. Notice how he follows my threads trying to debunk everything but fails every time.
Dude came in talking about “if you have a history of allergic reactions to vaccines”
Starting out wrong af... cuz she doesn’t have that history . She’s been a CNA for 20+ years, she the one that tells people the shit you are talking about in your post! She knows more than you likely
Yet another rushed statement without even watching the video because if you WATCHED YOU WOULD KNOW THAT
JUST LOUD AND WRONG LOL
And ORC ain’t even read what fraze wrote, didn’t watch the vid, didn’t understand any of it, or a combination of all 3. Ol dusty ass “ooooh big paragraph against coop. Lemme go co-sign “
Yesterday, 4,022 people died in the US from COVID. The day before, 4,064 died.
But by all means, don’t take the vaccine because of a video you saw on Facebook. That’s where I get all my important news.
UPN Zuch
01-14-2021, 08:18 AM
Yesterday, 4,022 people died in the US from COVID. The day before, 4,064 died.
But by all means, don’t take the vaccine because of a video you saw on Facebook. That’s where I get all my important news.
I’m too lazy to type out common sense, so I’m quoting this.
Take the vaccine.
Yesterday, 4,022 people died in the US from COVID. The day before, 4,064 died.
But by all means, don’t take the vaccine because of a video you saw on Facebook. That’s where I get all my important news.
So what you saying? You say that like you think the video is fake and she’s acting? Cuz ... she ain’t .
But go ahead and take a vaccine that when people DO have reactions, their videos get deleted off Facebook. Give me a plausible reason why they are doing that?
Nobody who replied in this thread watched the video. That’s why you see these replies (hmmm this seems familiar)
lmao Coop’s previous “woke” thread also involved him telling people to watch a video rather than offering any substantial response himself, for those wondering:
http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=143453
seems a recurring theme
his idea of what constitutes a good bar is questionable to me also
My man, if you think Facebook is being shady, that’s all the more reason NOT to get your news from it. And I have no idea why Facebook would delete anything, especially after letting every troll and fake account post whatever they wanted for the past decade.
The fact is, all vaccines carry a small chance of serious side effects. Shit, the polio vaccine kills a handful of children a year... but it also effectively wiped out one of the worst diseases in the world from 99% of the globe.
It’s a tragedy if that woman has side effects.. but it would much be more tragic to let the disease continue to decimate the US and the rest of the world when there’s an available vaccine that is safe in virtually all cases.
Edit* For what it’s worth, I did watch the video. I feel bad for her. It doesn’t change whether or not we should all take the vaccine.
lmao Coop’s previous “woke” thread also involved him telling people to watch a video rather than offering any substantial response himself, for those wondering:
http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=143453
seems a recurring theme
his idea of what constitutes a good bar is questionable to me also
Lol that’s why I put “this seems familiar” but thanks for explaining to the slow folk in the back
And read back through that thread . I was substantially responding to everyone and no one debunked anything.
My man, if you think Facebook is being shady, that’s all the more reason NOT to get your news from it. And I have no idea why Facebook would delete anything, especially after letting every troll and fake account post whatever they wanted for the past decade.
The fact is, all vaccines carry a small chance of serious side effects. Shit, the polio vaccine kills a handful of children a year... but it also effectively wiped out one of the worst diseases in the world from 99% of the globe.
It’s a tragedy if that woman had side effects from this vaccine.. but it would much be more tragic to let the disease continue to decimate the US and the rest of the world when there’s an available vaccine that is safe in virtually all cases.
It’s where the video originated from, her personal account. If you were in her situation, how would you communicate to the world what happened to you? Let that sink in. And then imagine how many people automatically thinks it’s fake
All I’m doing is showing y’all the shit they won’t show on the news. Don’t get all your shit from the tv, it’s clearly biased. And at the end of the day “idk why they are deleting it” and moving on is pure laziness but the critical thinkers can critically think.
uh-oh
01-14-2021, 08:56 AM
imagine being alarmed by the handful of people effected by something that doesn't have bad effects on 99.9 percent of people
what fools am i right guys
I don’t know who you think you’re talking to or helping. I wouldn’t get my news from you any more than I would some random bum on a street corner. I don’t know you from Adam.
I get my news the old fashioned way.
I let the mainstream print media brainwash me with liberal propaganda.
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 09:00 AM
The fact is, all vaccines carry a small chance of serious side effects. Shit, the polio vaccine kills a handful of children a year... but it also effectively wiped out one of the worst diseases in the world from 99% of the globe.
literally the only part of this thread that matters
take the fucking vaccine
imagine being alarmed by the handful of people effected by something that doesn't have bad effects on 99.9 percent of people
what fools am i right guys
The irony intended is going to go over a lot of peoples heads.
They need pictures, short videos, catchy phrases and sound bites to follow along.
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 09:02 AM
and the correct “affected” as well
literally the only part of this thread that matters
take the fucking vaccine
You should definitely take the vaccine. You’re old as fuck, suffering from many underlying health conditions, highly stressed, single and isolated, mentally handicapped. You’re the very definition of at risk.
They also skipped animal trials so we need more data on that.. 2 birds one stone...
Let us know how you feel a month or so later
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 09:04 AM
so, i’m married, and in perfect health
stop getting your information from facebook
uh-oh
01-14-2021, 09:04 AM
and the correct “affected” as well
affect and effect always gets me. damn english language amiright
so, i’m married, and in perfect health
stop getting your information from facebook
You’re still old as fuck, your marriage isn’t working out and is sexless so you’re stressed and likely depressed, and you show clear signs of mental retardation. My point stands. Let us know how it affects you
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 09:08 AM
yikes
calm down man
aggression could be a symptom
You’re still old as fuck, your marriage isn’t working out and is sexless so you’re stressed and likely depressed, and you show clear signs of mental retardation. My point stands. Let us know how it affects you
Lol why so angry bro
Sharp
01-14-2021, 09:12 AM
mrna vaccines are interesting but potentially scary stuff. I think it's fair to say that many people who get the covid vaccine will eventually be infertile or get cancer.
Lol why so angry bro
Nah destroyer or orc, one of them old mfers stay tryna troll me so I troll back. Idc if it’s the right person
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 09:15 AM
orc old as fuck
Diode
01-14-2021, 09:26 AM
F . B . I . AGENT JOHNNY UTAH REPORTING IN
COOP YOU MUST REMOVE THESE POSTS THEY ARE DAMAGING TO OUR CAUSE
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/vaccination-super-station-near-petco-park-abruptly-closes/2495604/%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0V1fM4TLd1wYrHBzEoJWvlKlmOZqXs845N zq4bT0bML_gRL9MFROqS4Ak%26amp
Don’t be a free guinea pig.
Massive reaction outbreak today in San Diego , they had to switch out the vax batch. This is EXPERIMENTAL yall
If you are as old as destroyer then fuck it,
You’re on your death bed already.
If you’re at risk or around someone who is, then I get it.
But if you’re relatively young and healthy, the numbers say everything you need to know. The wise move is to wait and let others be the guinea pigs and see how much this keeps happening
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 09:57 AM
you’re a moron
these were tested prior to rollout like every vaccine ever
imagine being alarmed by the handful of people effected by something that doesn't have bad effects on 99.9 percent of people
what fools am i right guys
Boom
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 10:38 AM
not all of us are ok with actively killing our older relatives
not all of us are ok with actively killing our older relatives
Man you the only elderly person everybody hates, stop trying to make this an ageist thing
By the way...
A Portuguese court just ruled the PCR test is INEFFECTIVE IN DETECTING COVID and likely has around a 97% false positive rate.
Look it up yourself.
It’s what I’ve been saying. The recommended cycle threshold for the PCR test is way too high, resulting in viruses being detected that aren’t covid. Hence, the high case numbers. Also why most people who are dying already got issues or are old as shit. Because most people aren’t catching covid, they are catching the flu.
Why else would the flu numbers be so significantly low this year compared to others?
Why are the “all cause mortality” numbers relatively the same this year compared to years past, globally and in the US?
All you gotta do is research how the PCR test works to connect the dots.
The creator of he test himself said it’s not meant to be used for virus detection and identification.
And if you refute this without knowing how a PCR test works, you’re just showing how stupid you are, and arguing with the very science you claim to trust
fraze
01-14-2021, 11:15 AM
imagine being alarmed by the handful of people effected by something that doesn't have bad effects on 99.9 percent of people
what fools am i right guys
you're right to be alarmed. it is alarming that some people are getting strange side effects. it should be investigated further and treated with seriousness. i'm not at all denying the side effects are real.
but if we're comparing relative danger of the vaccine and the corona virus, there isn't much of a comparison. be aware of the potential side effects, but if you want to get back to the "normal" version of America, the only path there is through mass vaccinations.
but if we're comparing relative danger of the vaccine and the corona virus, there isn't much of a comparison. be aware of the potential side effects, but if you want to get back to the "normal" version of America, the only path there is through mass vaccinations.
Your last sentence is propaganda.
Your last sentence is propaganda.
Your last sentence is propaganda.
Your last sentence is propaganda.
Your last sentence is propaganda.
You see how when something is repeated you have no choice but to acknowledge it? And if you are uneducated on the subject matter, it’s much easier to just agree and go along?
It’s what’s happening worldwide.
Research “the big lie”.
And his statement is a double entendre but I’m sure you knew that
fraze
01-14-2021, 11:19 AM
originally i was going to responsively debunk Coops latest post. maybe note the fact that he failed to cite his sources once again. or that PCR tests are based on DNA which makes it pretty easy to tell different virus apart.
http://siarchives.si.edu/research/videohistory_catalog9577.html#:~:text=The%20Polyme rase%20Chain%20Reaction%20(PCR,a%20scarce%20sample %20of%20DNA.&text=Kary%20Mullis%20invented%20the%20PCR,biotechn ology%20firm%20in%20Emeryville%2C%20California.
then i took a second to think about it. won't we all be better of if the stupid people catch this?
originally i was going to responsively debunk Coops latest post. maybe note the fact that he failed to cite his sources once again. or that PCR tests are based on DNA which makes it pretty easy to tell different virus apart.
http://siarchives.si.edu/research/videohistory_catalog9577.html#:~:text=The%20Polyme rase%20Chain%20Reaction%20(PCR,a%20scarce%20sample %20of%20DNA.&text=Kary%20Mullis%20invented%20the%20PCR,biotechn ology%20firm%20in%20Emeryville%2C%20California.
then i took a second to think about it. won't we all be better of if the stupid people catch this?
Perfect example of fake smart.
Let me expose you
Because I fully believe you did one search on PCR test. Posted a random article without reading it, made a comment irrelevant to the subject matter, and tryna play it off like you debunked something.
How does this debunk cycle thresholds over 35 being a cause of false positives? Because that was my point? Go ahead smart guy
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 11:27 AM
stfu closs
uh-oh
01-14-2021, 11:28 AM
you’re a moron
these were tested prior to rollout like every vaccine ever
no they weren't.
you're right to be alarmed. it is alarming that some people are getting strange side effects. it should be investigated further and treated with seriousness. i'm not at all denying the side effects are real
im as alarmed by the vaccine as i am by covid. (not at all)
it isn't mandated so i could give a shit tbh. im never getting it so i have nothing to worry about and covid itself is nothing to worry about.
fraze
01-14-2021, 11:30 AM
The recommended cycle threshold for the PCR test is way too high, resulting in viruses being detected that aren’t covid.
If you understood how PCR tests work you would both know that this sentence is nonsense (pending your evidenciary support) and that this fact was made clear in the article I posted.
If you understood how PCR tests work you would both know that this sentence is nonsense (pending your evidenciary support) and that this fact was made clear in the article I posted.
I’m aware of your games and goal post moving, so allow me to reiterate and be specific:
So you are refuting that specific sentence, not my point, which is “the high cycle thresholds are causing high numbers of false positives”?
Oh btw...
Here’s the creator of the test himself, literally explaining “you can find almost anything in anybody”
Watch the whole thing, it’s short, but he puts in in layman’s terms for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXm9kAhNj-4
Stop letting media control what you think.
You are allowed to question things without fear of being ostracized. You are allowed to look up information you don’t understand.
Here’s a little research roadmap for the fake smart people like fraze, or the people that want to know more about what’s going on and why:
1) Look up Kary Mullis (died last year), the guy WHO CREATED IT, and listen to his opinion on the test’s application for detecting viruses.
(Again, find the ACTUAL VIDEO, not an article discussing the video. That’s a trick I keep seeing people fall for.)
****just posted it for you
2) When researching the test and how it works, don’t skip over the part about cycles and cycle thresholds. It’s the very key to this whole thing
3) look up WHO’s recommended cycle threshold for covid testing, and compare that to what you just learned
4) look up the ruling a Portuguese court just made about the effi***y of the PCR test. Spoiler: THEY RULED IT WAS UNRELIABLE FOR DETECTING COVID WITH ~97% FALSE POSITIVE RATE (!!!)
5) once you’ve done all that, now look up all the experts worldwide saying the same about these PCR tests. And try to find those same doctors being covered by the main news stations. Hmmm
6) look up the cdcs definition of how they classify a death a covid death, and if they allow only confirmed cases, or confirmed AND PROBABLE cases, based off symptoms. And look up how much a hospital gets paid through Medicare for each code and how that works
7) spend some time looking for a scientific study that conclusively proves we can transfer covid asymptomatially. Then try to find studies that suggest we can’t.
8) look up the “all cause mortality” numbers and compare 2020 to previous years, globally and US. Notice how little difference there is. Why isnt there excess death, when we are dealing with the “worst pandemic ever” and 4K dying a day. And why are flu numbers down significantly this year? Could we be misattributing the flu as covid in some cases?
9) look up the psychological effects of wearing a mask in public. If you walk around in a society of masks, it makes everyone believe that there’s something scary out there. Look up being unable to read human expression, and isolating people and making them think they are a danger to loved ones, and how that relates to torture techniques
This just tip of the iceberg shit but I hope it provides some enlightenment in your life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_1Z8cSXI-Q
This is the best video I’ve come across that explains PCR testing, the importance of cycle thresholds, and how it leads to misinterpreting results.
uh-oh
01-14-2021, 12:12 PM
nobodies gonna watch or look into any of that coop.
you gotta just throw in the towel and realize people believe what they want to believe on all sides.
In case you didn’t think there were doctors out there with “dissenting medical opinion” here you go. Looks like a ted talk full of doctors and she exposing hella shit. Surprised it’s not banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFntHpk1uok
nobodies gonna watch or look into any of that coop.
you gotta just throw in the towel and realize people believe what they want to believe on all sides.
It isn’t for the people in the thread. The responses are 99% troll. It’s for the lurkers that want the knowledge and maybe haven’t heard or seen some of this before.
It’s also an opportunity for anyone to debunk like fraze is trying to.
It may not seem like it, but I’m very open to being wrong about anything, and changing my stance upon revelation of new information. I’m trying to find someone who actually can research objectively, and say more than just “what’s your source?!?” instead of actually intelligently debating the subject matter
fraze
01-14-2021, 12:35 PM
It may not seem like it, but I’m very open to being wrong about anything, and changing my stance upon revelation of new information. I’m trying to find someone who actually can research objectively, and say more than just “what’s your source?!?” instead of actually intelligently debating the subject matter
I'm the one moving goalposts?
You don't like me asking for sources?
You're open to new information?
That's confusing to me, pretty much every time I counter you with facts you go into personal attacks and try to insult my intelligence. I'm not sure which debating school you went to, but that's not generally how intelligent debates progress.
In case you didn’t think there were doctors out there with “dissenting medical opinion” here you go. Looks like a ted talk full of doctors and she exposing hella shit. Surprised it’s not banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFntHpk1uok
Edit: You can only see this video from the link because it’s unlisted.
A shadowban is when they don’t delete the content, but they prevent it from coming up in search algorithms. Most people don’t even know they’re being shadowbanned. This happens across all social media.
When you listen to what she’s saying it makes sense why’d they do it.
She explains everything I’ve been saying way better than I could
Connect the dots
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 12:49 PM
look hard enough, you will always find dissenting opinions
what’s the general consensus?
that’s the smart play
look hard enough, you will always find dissenting opinions
what’s the general consensus?
that’s the smart play
That’s not the case in the betting industry. The smart play is bet against the public 9/10
600 years ago the general consensus was geocentric theory. You’d be considered a conspiracy theorist for thinking the earth revolves around the sun.
General consensus 100 years ago was slaves are a good thing to have.
Etc...
fraze
01-14-2021, 01:26 PM
Most people also think its a bad idea to stick your fingers in an electrical socket. If you're betting against the public consensus 9 times out of 10, how are you still alive right now?
Most people also think its a bad idea to stick your fingers in an electrical socket. If you're betting against the public consensus 9 times out of 10, how are you still alive right now?
The betting industry dummy. Find me the odds for that bet first, I’d argue it doesn’t exist.
Which would prove you’re just making shit up again
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 02:10 PM
That’s not the case in the betting industry. The smart play is bet against the public 9/10
600 years ago the general consensus was geocentric theory. You’d be considered a conspiracy theorist for thinking the earth revolves around the sun.
General consensus 100 years ago was slaves are a good thing to have.
Etc...
hey, dumb shit
it’s the smart play even in betting
no risk... small reward
haven’t you ever even seen rounders? i bet you thought knisch was a bitch too
That’s not the case in the betting industry. The smart play is bet against the public 9/10
600 years ago the general consensus was geocentric theory. You’d be considered a conspiracy theorist for thinking the earth revolves around the sun.
General consensus 100 years ago was slaves are a good thing to have.
Etc...
general consensus 1000 years ago was fire plus food good idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFntHpk1uok
This video can’t be understated.
This is a doctor/lawyer, giving an hour speech. She represents a
“Volunteer physician organization, started specifically to combat the serious and life threatening disinformation campaign that has taken over America and the globe.”
The speech is what MSM would refer to as “dissenting medical opinion”
This is the information that gets scrubbed and blocked, it’s why the host has the video unlisted, comments disabled, and this only travels through personal link, and still has 200k views.
You owe it to yourself to listen to some of this.
Everything sourced and cited btw.
Timestamps: (I highly recommend watching from start to finish for context. She makes references later in the speech that wouldn’t make much sense if you didn’t listen throughout)
1:40 - NIH incorrect policy on treatment
3:20 - Renaming it from wuhan virus and why that’s abnormal
4:58 - suspicious hydroxychloroquine bashing as dangerous, when it’s a common otc drug in lots of places around the world and proven as treatment
20:51- The Lancet (most famous medical journal ) corruption. Published study in April about hydroxy. Independent doctors looked at it, said no way there’s 90k people in the study, and no ones heard of it. They ultimately retracted the article, (once a generation event!) and media buried the story . This same, now redacted, story was used as the source to ridicule trump when he praised the black doctor that said hydroxy was a cure.
23:40 - potential issues with the experimental biological agent (aka vax)
-mRNA (brand new), “investigational stage” which leads to legal protection
-complete failure of previous coronavirus vaccine attempt
(2002 epidemic of sars cov 1)
(This is 78% identical to sars cov 1)
-25:21 no independently published animal studies (one says they have, but not published)
-25:48 known complications
“Antibody dependent enhancement”
“Immune enhancement”
“Pathogenic priming”
“Instead of causing immunity, it causes a person to overreact in a negative way if they should be exposed to the virus”
-26:43 Saw this with prior cov 1 vaccine in 2005 with ferrets . Later they exposed sars cov 1 to ferrets in the wild, and they died. Could this happen with humans?
-27:43 Potential unknowns:
Fertility issues :
-28:36 Does it affect the syncytiotrophoblast , a layer on the placenta. It does when you’re sick with covid 19, and the vaccines kind of mimic having covid indefinitely
Does this agent have the same negative effect indefinitely? We don’t know
2 Europe ex-Pfizer executive filed petition with European equivalent of FDA, can’t approve it. Haven’t answered question about placenta and antibody dependent enhancement”
They claim it’s unsafe for child bearing age women until questions are answered
-30:16 pharmaceutical manufacturers are immune from liability (mostly profit-motivated)
-31:27 no proof that the agent stops transmission. Irrational! The surgeon general stated this on good morning America in December
What if they give 100m vaccines to everyone, and then everyone tests positive, they will say cases are rising and we can never go back to normal lol
-32:53 no proof this is reducing mortality
-33:15 we don’t know how long it lasts
-36:08 her studies on people of color and vaccines, and how it relates to the push for black people to get it
(38:31 starts exposing examples in media)
-39:06 using racial justice in a scientific matter is illogical
-42:58: pharmacovigilance tracking system (volunteering for a medical trial) established by DOD, will track for 2 years, handed to oracle and google to set up the data
-47:23 - vax distribution recommendation & reason based on age and health
You’re welcome. If you have even an ounce of intellectual curiosity you need to watch this video.
Ya’ll just love to argue on the Internet lol.
Objective
01-14-2021, 03:20 PM
It's funny to me that we're hyper focused on a handful of people (literally in the 10s or 100s) that have a survivable response to the vaccine, but you have no problem ignoring 4000s people dying every day.
Not to mention, it's not like it isn't widely known the vaccine isn't tested on a huge group of people yet, it is still in the stages of perfection. Serious question, do you guys really think they mainly test/give such a costly and important thing on mostly the elderly at first by chance? It's great if it works but also the least damaging on society if it doesn't. Definitely a conspiracy theory on my part, but hell, I don't think anyone can convince me otherwise of this
Lots of people have died and risked thei lives for vaccines to get the proper testing to get to this point in time where it's in a trial period for the public. It sucks that shit like this can happen but like you're saying, she isn't dead. If it is treatable, then damn, it's worth the side effect if the option is a very high risk of dying, or infecting others that will if they get it.
Side effects isn't surprising, it just sucks that it isn't as good as it can get yet. What's great is the courageous people taking the vaccine already now (and should know it is a risk this early), it's thanks to them we're moving forward with everything!
Sucks that the lady don't see it as such, and tells people not to take it instead of being an important voice in further development of it. And rooting on the people that work day and night risking to get infected themselves, some for free, with the virus to get a functional and predictable vaccine.
There's still a lot to be done, why this is surprising to some of you makes me scratch my head a little. What we're seeing here is a step in the right direction
I offer myself to slap some sense into you
dull boy
01-14-2021, 04:50 PM
hey, dumb shit
it’s the smart play even in betting
no risk... small reward
haven’t you ever even seen rounders? i bet you thought knisch was a bitch too
I need a blow job from Christy Turlington
Pharaohs Army
01-14-2021, 05:38 PM
9) look up the psychological effects of wearing a mask in public. If you walk around in a society of masks, it makes everyone believe that there’s something scary out there. Look up being unable to read human expression, and isolating people and making them think they are a danger to loved ones, and how that relates to torture techniques
Dude I somewhat agree with you when you say to be cautious of this vaccine.
But then you take it up another level into the anti-masker zone.
Ridiculous. There IS something scary out there, COVID, as 400k Americans are dead.
The mask is the simplest most effective way on cutting down the spread. You can't whine about it.
If you have been vaccinated then why does wearing a mask matter?
Dude I somewhat agree with you when you say to be cautious of this vaccine.
But then you take it up another level into the anti-masker zone.
Ridiculous. There IS something scary out there, COVID, as 400k Americans are dead.
The mask is the simplest most effective way on cutting down the spread. You can't whine about it.
We all have opinions. Personally, I give two shits about masks. But there is a psychological effect on people there’s no doubt about it.
The “scary” comment should be taken as “everyone wearing a mask, even when healthy, makes people think that everyone else is infected/someone wrong with them, encouraging less human interaction” ... which leads to the aforementioned psychological problems over an extended period of time
If it is treatable, then damn, it's worth the side effect if the option is a very high risk of dying, or infecting others that will if they get it.
1) not treatable so far, it hasn’t stopped for her since it started
2) “if the option is very high risk of dying” - it’s not for anyone under 65 without any underlying issues
3) “...or infecting others that will if they get it” - it has been publicly stated by Fauci, the Pfizer ceo, and other officials that the vax does NOT prevent transmission. That’s not what it’s designed for, though for whatever reason people think it is.
Ultimately, the issue with this is that it is an experimental biological agent, who’s creators can’t be sued, that was rushed at an historic pace, that was not tested on animals (extremely important), that we have no clue if it causes infertility in woman, and the chances of the average person being fine WITHOUT taking it is sky high.
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 06:35 PM
If you have been vaccinated then why does wearing a mask matter?
it doesn’t.
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 06:38 PM
More than 38,000 Americans have died of Covid-19 in the first two weeks of the new year.
Another 92,000 are projected to die from the virus over roughly the next three weeks, according to an ensemble forecast published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
it’s not bullshit, morons
take the fucking vaccine
More than 38,000 Americans have died of Covid-19 in the first two weeks of the new year.
Another 92,000 are projected to die from the virus over roughly the next three weeks, according to an ensemble forecast published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
it’s not bullshit, morons
take the fucking vaccine
Do you know how many of those 38,000 received the vaccine? Do you know if it’s most of them, or barely any? All or none?
Hmmm
Another question
Do you think that if all 38,000 took the vaccine they’d all be alive?
If yes, what are you basing that on? If no, why take the vaccine then?
Answer those questions and you might realize why what you’re saying makes no sense
it doesn’t.
Then why are they still mandating those who have been vaccinated to continue to wear masks?
Then why are they still mandating those who have been vaccinated to continue to wear masks?
Clearly this is the next logical question. You are asking the right ones.
The answer of course, is because the vax doesn’t stop transmission. Meaning you are basically only getting it “on the off chance” you get the virus, “there’s a chance” the symptoms will be “slightly” more bearable .
But let’s see what his scripted, programmed, brainwashed answer will be .
My moneys on “so you can protect others!”
Objective
01-14-2021, 06:55 PM
Coop "The “scary” comment should be taken as “everyone wearing a mask, even when healthy, makes people think that everyone else is infected/someone wrong with them, encouraging less human interaction” ... which leads to the aforementioned psychological problems over an extended period of time"
^How about the psychological repercussions from people dying? My grandfather in Albania died from it in December, I was supposed to visit him for the first time this year or the next. Felt like insult to injury from not having been in touch with them for so long. Also took a toll on other family members, my father is already having a prescription based addiction, no idea how he's dealing with this... Had this happened when I was suicidal I'm not sure if we'd even be able to have this conversation
And that's just 1 death. Up to you/others if you want to potentially and indirectly inflict this sort of pain on others in terms of mask use, but personally I can't understand how egotistical someone can be to not follow through with at least that.
Bringing personal stuff into a debate is stupid but couldn't think of a better case to bring up for why wearing masks is important and why people taking the vaccine and its development is as important as it is. That said, personally I'm waiting to take it until it's been tested and researched a little bit more.
Coop "The “scary” comment should be taken as “everyone wearing a mask, even when healthy, makes people think that everyone else is infected/someone wrong with them, encouraging less human interaction” ... which leads to the aforementioned psychological problems over an extended period of time"
^How about the psychological repercussions from people dying? My grandfather in Albania died from it in December, I was supposed to visit him for the first time this year or the next. Felt like insult to injury from not having been in touch with them for so long. Also took a toll on other family members, my father is already having a prescription based addiction, no idea how he's dealing with this... Had this happened when I was suicidal I'm not sure if we'd even be able to have this conversation
And that's just 1 death. Up to you/others if you want to potentially and indirectly inflict this sort of pain on others in terms of mask use, but personally I can't understand how egotistical someone can be to not follow through with at least that.
Bringing personal stuff into a debate is stupid but couldn't think of a better case to bring up for why wearing masks is important and why people taking the vaccine and its development is as important as it is. That said, personally I'm waiting to take it until it's been tested and researched a little bit more.
Sorry to hear about your grandfather. Hear me out...
The psychological reprocussions of people dying might be able to be prevented if we actually have the right medical information.
Do you see why this is so important?
For example,
To the best of your ability, what was the complete health status of your grandfather? What issues was he dealing with, if any? How old was he? Did he vaccinate? What treatment were they using for him? Was he hospitalized? Etc...
There are treatments out there that many doctors say work, but MSM condemns. She talks about it in the speech. The VERY FIRST timestamp I put up actually discusses this.
If your grandfather was on his deathbed, and the “msm medical doctors” say nothing they can do, but a holistic doctor says they can help him, who you trusting?
This is why this information is vital.
Bet you didn’t know there’s lawsuits going on all over the world over the misinformation of covid being spread. “Crime against humanity” lawsuits. Class action lawsuits filed by doctors and professionals. Remember, a case was WON IN PORTUGAL that said PCR tests are highly flawed and there are hella false positives. This will never hit the news.
Update on lawsuits:
http://enformtk.u-aizu.ac.jp/howard/fuellmich/
fraze
01-14-2021, 08:01 PM
The answer of course, is because the vax doesn’t stop transmission.
This is true.
The vaccine stops you from expressing symptoms of the virus by teaching your body how to produce the right antibodies. If you get infected you will still be able to spread the virus while it is reproducing, but it will keep you out of the hospital.
Unlike what some people said, there are plenty of people under 65 who get corona and stop being able to breath. If you're not able to get treatment that is a deadly disease symptom regardless of your age.
Objective
01-14-2021, 08:18 PM
He was old, probably underlying issues as well... A 30 year old guy died in Sweden not too long ago out of seemingly nowhere. One day he was getting better, then he never woke up. That's the gravity of the situation we're dealing with. We'll get through it for sure, and I don't think there's cause for concern in general but we should always weigh the pros and cons of a given situation.
Pros wearing a mask and using antibac: potentially saving lives and/or our own. Do you know if you got any underlying issues?
Cons not wearing one: potentially dying or someone else, and maybe suffer not too much of a mental impact from using one.
As long as there is a chance info about covid and wearing masks is right (even if you don't believe it) there's still a good reason to use a mask in case you and them are wrong.
My mother knows a guy that research covid on his spare time in addition to being employed for it. Due to that he has access to a lab. Either way I do whatever the gov thinks is best cus it's a collective effort to fight this. I trust whatever he and my mother is saying more than news sources. I believe medical journals etc. Still follow whatever is recommended to do the best I can.
Yes, there's tons of stuff that do go wrong when dealing with things of this magnitude. Not only is the whole world in distress but as humans we're not built for this kind of compact societies, evolution can't keep up. Organising sucks everywhere, I didn't realize how terribly ran Norway was until I got an in at a tech firm and saw how official corporations are ran from the inside, stories from colleagues and other people I got to know. Same goes for the police, how fucked up they run things, it is just a lot more visible with them when it goes wrong cus they deal directly with the public. Social services suck everywhere, Norway has one of best social services in the world but they're not without holes and bureaucracy negatively affecting people either. That the same happens right now in terms of vaccines/covid that is still under research, none the less, isn't strange, but we can make the best out of it and do our best with minimal effort to reduce worst case scenarios, like wearing masks and taking the vaccine so we can continue the fight.
It's important that people won't get sued for their findings as that would halt the whole thing drastically, we need everything possible right now and learn from past mistakes. Dividing how we go about it, even if it should be wrong, invites further chaos into an already chaotic situation.
Another thing, this strain of covid is still rather new and may mutate, we don't know... And there will be different findings here and there, politics play a role how different countries, regions, areas etc are handling it. Focus on what the gov is saying about your area and follow that. I do the same in terms of Norway.
What I do know is that most people does whatever they can to the best of their ability. And we can only do the best we can out of our ability. And right now the best WE can do as civs is wearing a mask until they say it's safe not to, because being wrong about this is too serious to gamble on.
Wear a mask... It costs next to nothing, can be washed and you'll get away with crime a little bit easier. If it didn't matter, oh well, at least we can say we did a lil bit of effort that isn't really hindering anything else in our daily lives. No..?
Pros wearing a mask: potentially saving lives and/or our own. Do you know if you got any underlying issues?
Cons not wearing one: potentially dying or someone else, and maybe suffer not too much of a mental impact from using one.
I hear you, but let’s strive to be accurate. An objective comparison of Pros and cons in this example should be “pros of wearing a mask, vs cons of wearing a mask”, not “pros of wearing a mask, vs cons of NOT wearing”, which argues the same point.
What I do know is that most people does whatever they can do the best of their ability. And we can only do the best we can out of our ability. And right now the best WE can do as civs is wearing a mask until they say it's safe not to, because being wrong about this is too serious to gamble on.
Wear a mask... It costs next to nothing, can be washed and you'll get away with crime a little bit easier. If it didn't matter, oh well, at least we can say we did the smallest amount of effort. No..?
Bold mentality to me represents forfeiting the ability to draw your own conclusions. This is a situation that does not require extensive schooling to understand. To simply “let’s just trust the experts” and do NO RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN is lazy to me. It changes over to irresponsible and dangerous when there are several signs that the very experts one claims to trust, COME OUT AND SAY THE GENERAL MEDICAL OPINION GIVEN IS WRONG.
This is when I believe it’s imperative to do your own deep dive.
And to answer you specifically about the mask, the average mask your average citizen wears everyday isn’t sterilized, isn’t fitted properly, is constantly touched and refitted with germs from your hands, and some people wear them longer than recommended, which is literally a health hazard from reinhaling toxins your body is expelling. Look up mask mouth as well.
Again, idc about the mask as much, but there are signs that point to detrimental effects, and the reasoning behind wearing masks in the first place, asymptomatic spread, hasn’t been scientifically proven yet.
Objective
01-14-2021, 08:44 PM
I do read into it as well along with my own research, but not too much because it gives me anxiety attacks. It has a mental effect on me ngl, heartrate go up, tension in neck and shoulders, not breathing correctly and chest pains. Not as much now but march-april for sure. Right now I think that it's just best to listen to official statements cus nobody knows shit anyways and it's just as bold to assume one over the other.
This is a debate, if you understand what I'm getting at there's no need to pick apart minor details about my previous post like the way I wrote pros vs cons. I also hope you understand that it's tough for me to be objective about this but I'm trying to.
Either way, I've said mine and will move on. No need for me to say anything more, really. Just wanted to say my piece, my view, from someone that has lost someone to this. Take from it whatever yall want, Idc, I'm not going to the US anytime soon anyways despite being invited to a wedding.
Have a good one Coop, and stay safe. If you know how to wear a mask properly, good. I cook mine to sterilise it and do my best to wear it properly, it's a new thing to me too and in the end I'm just a human doing my best. I hope you do too...
As long as something isn't proven yet we should look at worst case scenarios in terms of official statements and handle it as if it were true. Done, finito, thanks for the talk. I'll read your sources later on for myself. :)
I do read into it as well along with my own research, but not too much because it gives me anxiety attacks. It has a mental effect on me ngl, heartrate go up, tension in neck and shoulders, not breathing correctly and chest pains. Not as much now but march-april for sure. Right now I think that it's just best to listen to official statements cus nobody knows shit anyways and it's just as bold to assume one over the other.
This is a debate, if you understand what I'm getting at there's no need to pick apart minor details about my previous post like the way I wrote pros vs cons.
Either way, I've said mine and will move on. No need for me to say anything more, really. Just wanted to say my piece, my view, from someone that has lost someone to this. Take from it whatever yall want, Idc, I'm not going to the US anytime soon anyways despite being invited to a wedding.
Have a good one Coop, and stay safe. If you know how to wear a mask properly, good. I cook mine to sterilise it and do my best to wear it properly, it's a new thing to me too and in the end I'm just a human doing my best. I hope you do too...
As long as something isn't proven yet we should look at worst case scenarios and handle it as if it were true
Respect. You too
Objective
01-14-2021, 08:53 PM
Respect. You too
Word, was an interesting discussion, thanks for being thorough and open.
Pakistani Hand Cannon
01-14-2021, 09:08 PM
I do read into it as well along with my own research, but not too much because it gives me anxiety attacks. It has a mental effect on me ngl, heartrate go up, tension in neck and shoulders, not breathing correctly and chest pains.
Fear is the real virus that humanity is afflicted by.
Investigate the feelings in your body - seeking to escape it, perpetuates it - you run from it, & it runs you.
Blessing for the new year, be healthy in mind and body my G.
Pakistani Hand Cannon
01-14-2021, 09:22 PM
anywhoooo
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4fVFgHXPELoO/
just a question - do yall who are quick to call everything that doesnt fit the mainstream narrative "dumb" or "conspiracy" - ever ponder why plenty doctors are speaking against the shit? or are they being unscientific tinfoil hat wearing muhfuckas also? & is what you call "science" moreso just a belief given to you from a certain authority that you never, ever, ever question or actually investigate with any actual veracity?...how religious lol
stay healthy bruddahs.
I remember when I was intentionally ignorant.
I remember when I was too lazy to look shit up.
I remember the days when I watched the news daily and believed everything on it
Y’all gotta snap out of it. Evidence strongly points to humanity literally being deceived on a global scale, and you are on the side of “ignorance” unwittingly and unknowingly. A victim of your own naivety.
No hyperbole.
I know it’s a scary paradigm shift to realize the people you thought had your best internet at heart are actually lying to you. It’s like finding out a parent is trying to kill you or something. Inconceivable to most.
BUT ITS HAPPENING so you might want to wake up.
Everybody just saw the president of the United States, and everyone associated with him, get banned from everything, and apps removed in an attempt to prevent him from reaching the public.
We are moving into a time of extreme censorship.
Think of the implications of that COMBINED with all this medical revelation that I’m introducing to you now.
Near future:
-experimental vaccines required in order to function in society
-cashless society, meaning every transaction you ever make is recorded
-widespread use of the surveillance techniques used in China. Look up their social credit system that’s been in place for a while now. That’s eventually going to be a worldwide thing
-deleting anyone on social media who speaks out against any of this
None of this is conspiracy theory. This is what’s coming. There are either examples, or officials discussing and confirming, the coming of each of them.
If your mind is still telling you the stuff I’m posting isn’t worth looking into, or is fake, or whatever, you are still being affected by the indoctrination.
Stop being closed minded.
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 10:28 PM
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30577-4/fulltext
fuck off
fraze
01-14-2021, 10:33 PM
I actually do (or used to) look into most of the things you post. I do a lot of independent research and come to my own personal conclusions regardless of the point of view of any singular source.
It just so happens that I'm drawing different conclusions than you are. Instead of encouraging my free thinking, you condemn me because I don't conform. This is called hypocrisy.
Until you can acknowledge the basic fact the virus is killing 4000 people a day in the US currently, your opinion on the subject is moot regardless of how free thinking you are. You're not participating in our shared reality, so its not productive to have you participating in conversations.
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 10:38 PM
Then why are they still mandating those who have been vaccinated to continue to wear masks?
because it’s a two part vaccine and because no ones created “ i got the vaccine, so i don’t need a mask” passes yet
Blue Bayou
01-14-2021, 10:40 PM
because it’s a two part vaccine and because no ones created “ i got the vaccine, so i don’t need a mask” passes yet
Preach
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 10:40 PM
but also because the effi***y at preventing spread wasn’t looked at because stopping death was deemed more pressing
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 10:40 PM
jesus
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30577-4/fulltext
fuck off
Lol what is this supposed to prove?
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 10:58 PM
it’s for Amen, not your dumb ass
you’re beyond reproach
but also because the effi***y at preventing spread wasn’t looked at because stopping death was deemed more pressing
You are an idiot. “Wasn’t looked at” lmaooooo let me show you how you don’t know what you’re talking about
When a vaccine is “95% effective”, they ARE REFERRING TO THE PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING SPREAD , NOT PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING DEATH
Look up the Pfizer ceos recent interview, he says it himself
like I said, idiot
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 11:02 PM
they looked at who got sick and who didn’t not whether people were asymptomatic but still shedding virus
do you read anything or just type paragraphs?
It just so happens that I'm drawing different conclusions than you are. Instead of encouraging my free thinking, you condemn me because I don't conform. This is called hypocrisy.
Until you can acknowledge the basic fact the virus is killing 4000 people a day in the US currently, your opinion on the subject is moot regardless of how free thinking you are. You're not participating in our shared reality, so its not productive to have you participating in conversations.
“YOURE NOT PARTICIPATING IN OUR SHARED REALITY” lmao the irony. The reality you are living in is clearly manipulated
4000 people may have died, but not all of them died specifically from the coronavirus. I already went over that. It is a lie perpetrated to make the public believe it’s worse than it is. And the 4000, is gather 3900+ of them are old or already on their deathbed. That’s fact.
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 11:04 PM
When a vaccine is “95% effective”, they ARE REFERRING TO THE PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING SPREAD , NOT PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING DEATH
this vaccine doesn’t contain the virus but rather teaches your body how to fight the spread of it INSIDE YOUR OWN BODY
how the fuck could such a virus be measured by percentage of prevention?
they looked at who got sick and who didn’t not whether people were asymptomatic but still shedding virus
do you read anything or just type paragraphs?
You’re making no sense. You literally just said scientists didn’t consider virus transmission when making the vaccine. It’s past your bed time buddy
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 11:06 PM
learn how this vaccine works faggot, and then get at me
this vaccine doesn’t contain the virus but rather teaches your body how to fight the spread of it INSIDE YOUR OWN BODY
how the fuck could such a virus be measured by percentage of prevention?
“How could a virus be measured by percentage of prevention”
It’s not the virus being measured, we are talking about the vaccines effectiveness at preventing spread being measured dumb dumb
Destroyer
01-14-2021, 11:10 PM
oh sorry, i misspoke. a scholar such as yourself would surely know i meant vaccine where i typed virus
oh sorry, i misspoke. a scholar such as yourself would surely know i meant vaccine where i typed virus
I don’t assume dumb people MEANT to say something smart
Blue Bayou
01-15-2021, 12:03 AM
MATTT DAYMIN
UPN Zuch
01-15-2021, 12:16 AM
I got some angelfire links that will BLOW your fucking mind guys
Pakistani Hand Cannon
01-15-2021, 12:57 AM
Coop what you doing going back & forth though?
one hoe claims to do his due dilligence yet has no knowlegde of how deaths are wrongly being attributed to covid - if you dont accept the fraud as "fact" nothing matters - thats a wall youre talking to.
another mark mixes up terms (harmless mistake in & of itself) but then acts like its your fault for not comprehending the shit.
you dont see its just a game of egos at this point?
do what you will, im just sayin, drop the jewels, & let it be.
fraze
01-15-2021, 02:01 AM
We've been doing the "wrongly attributed deaths" dance for days. Every time you bring it up I have to remind you that some states report their confirmed numbers as well as the presumed cases and the difference isn't that much.
Even assuming 50% of the cases are falsely attributed (which isn't even close to true), we're still talking about 2000 deaths a day from COVID. That's a lot of people dying (you can look up the old thread for comps of that death rate, it's still enough to be in top 5 causes of death in the US).
Not to mention that I could also bring up the excess deaths statistics (number of bodies showing up in morgues is atypically high compared to a year ago). A lot of these are people who died with COVID at home and were never tested and do not count towards the official numbers.
Any cursory investigation would tell you a lot of people are dying right now. If we can't agree on the basic premise of COVID kills 1000s of people every day, none of the rest of the conversation has a point.
When a vaccine is “95% effective”, they ARE REFERRING TO THE PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING SPREAD , NOT PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING DEATH
maybe preventing the spread will hopefully help in preventing some deaths
or at least help out the healthcare institutions somewhat by bringing down the number of admissions etc so that they aren’t overrun
Coop what you doing going back & forth though?
one hoe claims to do his due dilligence yet has no knowlegde of how deaths are wrongly being attributed to covid - if you dont accept the fraud as "fact" nothing matters - thats a wall youre talking to.
another mark mixes up terms (harmless mistake in & of itself) but then acts like its your fault for not comprehending the shit.
you dont see its just a game of egos at this point?
do what you will, im just sayin, drop the jewels, & let it be.
You’re 100% right.
When I have the time, I prefer to defend what I post. If I just let it be, posts that make no sense or are irrelevant, will be treated like they are correct and confuse people.
We've been doing the "wrongly attributed deaths" dance for days. Every time you bring it up I have to remind you that some states report their confirmed numbers as well as the presumed cases and the difference isn't that much.
Even assuming 50% of the cases are falsely attributed (which isn't even close to true), we're still talking about 2000 deaths a day from COVID. That's a lot of people dying (you can look up the old thread for comps of that death rate, it's still enough to be in top 5 causes of death in the US).
Not to mention that I could also bring up the excess deaths statistics (number of bodies showing up in morgues is atypically high compared to a year ago). A lot of these are people who died with COVID at home and were never tested and do not count towards the official numbers.
Any cursory investigation would tell you a lot of people are dying right now. If we can't agree on the basic premise of COVID kills 1000s of people every day, none of the rest of the conversation has a point.
I agree with you conceptually. If we aren’t on the same page with the deaths, then the rest will implode.
Which is why we must reach conclusion on the rest of the shit I’m talking about.
Realistic scenario:
If someone gets a false positive, doesn’t have covid, then dies of something else within 28 days, that death can and most likely will be coded a covid death, without autopsy. They just need 2 symptoms (all similar to flu symptoms) to be observed.
^ASK A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL ABOUT THIS TO CONFIRM FOR YOURSELF
Once you realize that is true, what is your opinion on figuring out exactly how many times that has happened? Because that’s one of the key questions.
Because just like I can’t claim “it’s happening all the time”, you can’t claim “it’s rarely happening”
The DATA being wrong is what keeps this whole thing going. And the answer to that I believe lies in the PCR test.
Thoughts?
maybe preventing the spread will hopefully help in preventing some deaths
or at least help out the healthcare institutions somewhat by bringing down the number of admissions etc so that they aren’t overrun
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but of course this is true. My quote was correcting a mistake some guy made.
fraze
01-15-2021, 08:09 PM
If someone gets a false positive, doesn’t have covid, then dies of something else within 28 days, that death can and most likely will be coded a covid death, without autopsy. They just need 2 symptoms (all similar to flu symptoms) to be observed.
Assuming I take the this premise at face value, how do you account for the fact that the number of "wrongly attributed" deaths is increasing at an alarming rate. 4000 people are dying every day of something. That's a freaky number of non-covid deaths with flu like symptoms.
big baby
01-15-2021, 08:31 PM
Fraze swears he knows everything.
This ain’t shock dumbass. Shock doesn’t last every moment of the day like she said this is. The doctors who saw her didn’t say it was shock.
And no shit this is “RIGHT NOW” rare. Maybe that’s why I fuckin said it was? You can’t tell me with certainty this won’t happen to a lot more down the road. The experts who made the vaccine wouldn’t make that claim so how could you?
Also, 4000 aren’t dying a day from covid get your numbers straight
u ah fucka idiyote
Assuming I take the this premise at face value, how do you account for the fact that the number of "wrongly attributed" deaths is increasing at an alarming rate. 4000 people are dying every day of something. That's a freaky number of non-covid deaths with flu like symptoms.
4,000/day isn’t that wild, it’s about half the normal deaths per day. This would go some length towards explaining the low number of flu deaths.
Also you have to factor in age. Look up the age statistics of these 4,000 per day, then compare the ratios to the age ratios of the country. The result is clear and obvious.
Another situation - you have someone who is elderly, dying from some terminal illness. They catch covid, or have a false positive, but really die from their terminal illness. These situations would be labeled as a covid death.
"Norway Sounds Alarm After 23 Die Following Pfizer Vaccine"
https://latest-today-news.com/2021/01/15/serious-consequences-norway-sounds-alarm-after-23-die-following-pfizer-vaccine/
fraze
01-16-2021, 06:17 AM
This is a hilarious level of hypocrisy.
"We should complete ignore fatalities in one group of people because they're elderly and sick anyway.
But when it benefits my point of view, we definitely need to pay attention to deaths among the elderly and sick."
And please quote from sources with actual journalists next time. What the fuck is a "latest-today-news.com". You sicken me.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-15/norway-warns-of-vaccination-risks-for-sick-patients-over-80
This is a hilarious level of hypocrisy.
"We should complete ignore fatalities in one group of people because they're elderly and sick anyway.
But when it benefits my point of view, we definitely need to pay attention to deaths among the elderly and sick."
And please quote from sources with actual journalists next time. What the fuck is a "latest-today-news.com". You sicken me.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-15/norway-warns-of-vaccination-risks-for-sick-patients-over-80
“If you can’t attack the message, attack the messenger”
Look at this:
1) Fraze looks at link
2) Instead of looking at subject matter, immediately looks at source
3) Fraze doesn’t recognize the source, immediately assumes subject matter is incorrect
Lmaooo I deliberately picked some random site I never heard of because I knew this would be your reaction. There are plenty of other reputable sites reporting on this, just go search it. I’m playing chess, you on checkers.
Once you realize that, realize you’ve been doing this THE ENTIRE TIME. It’s why you’ve been wrong so much
Lol @ “use real sources” and you post a story saying the same shit as the “fake source”. Lmaooo
Another situation - you have someone who is elderly, dying from some terminal illness. They catch covid, or have a false positive, but really die from their terminal illness. These situations would be labeled as a covid death.
That’s a gross misinterpretation of how determining cause of death works, particularly the importance of underlying causes. When someone stops breathing because they have emphysema, their heart stops and they die. Primary cause is either respiratory failure or cardiac arrest, depending on how technical the coroner wants to be. Underlying cause is emphysema. You can make the same analogy using virtually all natural deaths. Just because emphysema wasn’t the primary cause doesn’t make it any less important.
In your example, if someone was dying of malignant cancer, and caught COVID, but was asymptomatic and it didn’t impact his health at all.. and he then died from cancer.. COVID would not be listed as a primary OR underlying cause of death. But, if he caught COVID and it did hasten or have a role in causing his death, it would be listed appropriately as a cause of the death.
It’s true that most of the time, COVID is listed as an underlying cause of death. But just because it’s listed as an underlying cause of death rather than the primary doesn’t mean it wasn’t caused by COVID. That’s the way the disease works. It’s analogous to how HIV/AIDS and myriad other diseases work. They’re no less dangerous because they are a domino in the middle or at the end. What’s important is that it was part of the cause.
Making the blanket statement you did shows an extreme misunderstanding of the diagnosis process... and of how illnesses, particularly COVID, work to kill someone.
(Unless you’re trying to say that medical professionals are committing fraud on a global scale and adding COVID as a cause of death when it wasn’t. That’s a whole different issue.)
Fracture
01-16-2021, 03:12 PM
I agree with ajax
Entirely
That’s a gross misinterpretation of how determining cause of death works, particularly the importance of underlying causes. When someone stops breathing because they have emphysema, their heart stops and they die. Primary cause is either respiratory failure or cardiac arrest, depending on how technical the coroner wants to be. Underlying cause is emphysema. You can make the same analogy using virtually all natural deaths. Just because emphysema wasn’t the primary cause doesn’t make it any less important.
In your example, if someone was dying of malignant cancer, and caught COVID, but was asymptomatic and it didn’t impact his health at all..
First bold is acknowledging that, at the end of the day, immediate, intermediate, and underlying causes can be changed based on "how technical they wanted to be" as opposed to a rigid system that demands accuracy. This will be proven wrong shortly.
Second bold is ridiculous, as covid affects you when you catch it regardless of your symptoms. They would list covid in some capacity if covid was detected at all.
and he then died from cancer.. COVID would not be listed as a primary OR underlying cause of death. But, if he caught COVID and it did hasten or have a role in causing his death, it would be listed appropriately as a cause of the death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vxf7ed3jBE
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/coding-and-reporting.htm
So here's a 3:06 video, that's on the cdcs website, literally walking you through how to properly list cause of deaths as it pertains to covid 19.
1:11 "If covid 19 is determined to be the underlying cause, it should be reported as the lowest line used in part one, with any conditions with which it gave rise, such as pneumonia or respiratory-distress, in a logical sequence on the lines above"
So no, they cant just list it how they want.
Listen to the hypothetical situation they give starting at 1:33. Pay attention to what's mentioned 1:48-1:53.
That's the glaring issue.
It’s true that most of the time, COVID is listed as an underlying cause of death. But just because it’s listed as an underlying cause of death rather than the primary doesn’t mean it wasn’t caused by COVID. That’s the way the disease works. It’s analogous to how HIV/AIDS and myriad other diseases work. They’re no less dangerous because they are a domino in the middle or at the end. What’s important is that it was part of the cause.
Making the blanket statement you did shows an extreme misunderstanding of the diagnosis process... and of how illnesses, particularly COVID, work to kill someone.
(Unless you’re trying to say that medical professionals are committing fraud on a global scale and adding COVID as a cause of death when it wasn’t. That’s a whole different issue.)
I have a pretty good understanding of it. They just came out with some new ICD covid codes this month, but prior to that... read what code was used.
https://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/U00-U85/U00-U49/U07-/U07.1
Specifically "U07.1 is a billable/specific ICD-10-CM code that can be used to indicate a diagnosis for reimbursement purposes." (In case you didn't think hospitals were getting paid for covid deaths)
Every "covid death" being reported on the news has that U07.1 code.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/icd/COVID-19-guidelines-final.pdf
Here are the guidelines used. Notice on the very first page,
"Code only a confirmed diagnosis of the 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) as documented by the provider, documentation of a positive COVID-19 test result, or a presumptive positive COVID-19 test result. For a confirmed diagnosis, assign code U07.1, COVID-19. This is an exception to the hospital inpatient guideline Section II, H. In this context, “confirmation” does not require documentation of the type of test performed; the provider’s documentation that the individual has COVID-19 is sufficient.
Presumptive positive COVID-19 test results should be coded as confirmed. A presumptive positive test result means an individual has tested positive for the virus at a local or state level, but it has not yet been confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). CDC confirmation of local and state tests for COVID-19 is no longer required."
I trust you can comprehend what this means.
In response to your "fraud" mention, no I don't think doctors all over the world are in on it. In fact, I think there's large portions of doctors opposed to things like the vaccine. As shown by the recent reports of how many healthcare workers specifically are refusing it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/many-frontline-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccines-distribution-rollout-struggles-n1252617
https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/alarming-number-of-us-health-care-workers-are-refusing-covid-19-vaccine/
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/healthcare-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-access
What does it say when a ton of medical professionals who deal with covid up close and personal every day, refuse to take the covid vaccine??
Back to the point, there is INCENTIVE, and humans, are GREEDY by nature. And some are simply opportunistic.
https://www.hrsa.gov/coviduninsuredclaim/frequently-asked-questions
Here, take a look at a $2 billion dollar fund set up for reimbursing covid care providers. Scroll through, but notice the "what services are ineligible for reimbursement" section. Basically, if they don't have a positive covid test, NOTHING.
I've already provided proof how inaccurate the PCR test is. And that's the key to this whole thing. But it's not fraud if they aren't doing it intentionally.
I have seen testimony and articles of physicians being pressured by their bosses to list covid 19 when there wasn't any back in APRIL. Whether that happens a lot or a little, and for what reasons, I don't claim to know.
Destroyer
01-16-2021, 03:22 PM
oh are healthcare workers refusing it? healthcare workers can be morons too.
oh are healthcare workers refusing it? healthcare workers can be morons too.
But i thought it was "I TRUST THE SCIENCE"
Are they not medical professionals with a larger working knowledge on the scientific subject matter than you?
https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/
Pretty interesting how the US Government put out a statement yesterday that links the Wuhan Instititue of Virology (A supposed civilian institute, also where covid "originated") with secret projects with the CCP military.
"Despite the WIV presenting itself as a civilian institution, the US has determined that the WIV has collaborated on publications and secret projects with China's military... ...since at least 2017"
"Today's revelations just scrach the surface of what is still hidden about COVID-19's origin in China."
"The United States will... ...including by continuing to demand transparency on the part of Chinese authorities."
This supports the theory of COVID being manmade don't you think? Remember the whistleblower Dr Li-Meng Yan who said it was?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J4aEcuEGWs
If there ever is a ww3, biological and cyberwarfare would be the primary/initial methods of attack, not necessarily physical invasion. Just saying.
And now yesterday the government is basically saying they're suspicious as fuck of this institute and the virus' origin.
I wonder if anyone will call the department of state conspiracy theorists?
dull boy
01-16-2021, 04:41 PM
Chyeah, you tell ‘em, Coop.
fraze
01-16-2021, 06:12 PM
“If you can’t attack the message, attack the messenger”
Look at this:
1) Fraze looks at link
2) Instead of looking at subject matter, immediately looks at source
3) Fraze doesn’t recognize the source, immediately assumes subject matter is incorrect
Lmaooo I deliberately picked some random site I never heard of because I knew this would be your reaction. There are plenty of other reputable sites reporting on this, just go search it. I’m playing chess, you on checkers.
Once you realize that, realize you’ve been doing this THE ENTIRE TIME. It’s why you’ve been wrong so much
Lol @ “use real sources” and you post a story saying the same shit as the “fake source”. Lmaooo
I never said it incorrect, I just said it was a bad source of news.
This is what we call the "strawman fallacy". You accusing me of doing some bad thing that you've invented (assuming your source is incorrect and not reading it) just so you can take me down for it. It's a favorite rhetorical technique of our current President.
I'm telling you to quote reputable sources because otherwise its just an article on some website. Just because someone understands Wordpress doesn't make them a subject matter expert. Do better.
I read your article, noticed the lack of basic information that would be included in any news story, then I went to find out what was actually happening.
When you finish playing board games, maybe you'll realize I posted the same thing from a reputable source to show that the "mainstream" media is reporting on this because its a legitimate story.
Don't find it strange that new world order is allowing this story on vaccination deaths? Isn't that against the pro-vaccine narrative the powers at be are trying to push in your conspiracy fantasy? Why report on this anti-vaccine story but not the BS you're pulling out of Youtube videos.
It's because real journalists have to verify a story from multiple sources before their editors let them print it. That doesn't mean they're perfect. They often misinterpret or misunderstand stories, sometimes maliciously, sometimes not. But it does mean that the stuff they print has been attribute to someone in the real world with a reputations at risk when they get things wrong.
Where as, no matter how many outright lies are included, your Youtube videos are only judged after the fact in the comment sections.
Also it's cute of you to ignore the substance of my comment, which is that these deaths from vaccinations are only from sick elderly people who couldn't handle the side effects. If you don't care about the corona deaths, why do you care about these?
^^^ Point bolded for emphasis since you have trouble following.
fraze
01-16-2021, 06:22 PM
Presumptive positive COVID-19 test results should be coded as confirmed. A presumptive positive test result means an individual has tested positive for the virus at a local or state level, but it has not yet been confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). CDC confirmation of local and state tests for COVID-19 is no longer required."
You bolded the wrong part moron. They're saying they don't need a second test from the CDC to consider a death confirmed. Which kind of makes sense given the demand for testing.
So all of the people with this code have tested positive for COVID before they died with symptoms attributable to COVID-19. Why do you need a 2nd CDC test to validate this? How is this evidence of a conspiracy? Why are you so obtuse?
I never said it incorrect, I just said it was a bad source of news.
This is what we call the "strawman fallacy". You accusing me of doing some bad thing that you've invented (assuming your source is incorrect and not reading it) just so you can take me down for it. It's a favorite rhetorical technique of our current President.
I'm telling you to quote reputable sources because otherwise its just an article on some website. Just because someone understands Wordpress doesn't make them a subject matter expert. Do better.
I read your article, noticed the lack of basic information that would be included in any news story, then I went to find out what was actually happening.
When you finish playing board games, maybe you'll realize I posted the same thing from a reputable source to show that the "mainstream" media is reporting on this because its a legitimate story.
Don't find it strange that new world order is allowing this story on vaccination deaths? Isn't that against the pro-vaccine narrative the powers at be are trying to push in your conspiracy fantasy? Why report on this anti-vaccine story but not the BS you're pulling out of Youtube videos.
It's because real journalists have to verify a story from multiple sources before their editors let them print it. That doesn't mean they're perfect. They often misinterpret or misunderstand stories, sometimes maliciously, sometimes not. But it does mean that the stuff they print has been attribute to someone in the real world with a reputations at risk when they get things wrong.
Where as, no matter how many outright lies are included, your Youtube videos are only judged after the fact in the comment sections.
Also it's cute of you to ignore the substance of my comment, which is that these deaths from vaccinations are only from sick elderly people who couldn't handle the side effects. If you don't care about the corona deaths, why do you care about these?
^^^ Point bolded for emphasis since you have trouble following.
You said all of that to just agree with me...., the same shit was said regardless of source. Smh.
You’re also asking me to assume the mindset of something/one I’ve never made claim to. What you’re doing is called “stereotyping”.
You first immediately classify anyone discussing what I’m discussing as a conspiracy theorist.
Then, because your definition of it is heavily influenced by MSM, you automatically assume every theorist believes the same thing. Or that they believe everything they see.
To put it plainly, you assume they don’t have discernment. Which is mighty arrogant and congruent with someone who makes it a point to mention they “went to engineering school” or w/e you said.
That’s your issue.
Fake smart.
As far as the bold, we need to clarify here. Mr. Straw man. In what context did I say “I don’t care about the corona deaths” . Smells like something you just made up
You bolded the wrong part moron. They're saying they don't need a second test from the CDC to consider a death confirmed. Which kind of makes sense given the demand for testing.
So all of the people with this code have tested positive for COVID before they died with symptoms attributable to COVID-19. Why do you need a 2nd CDC test to validate this? How is this evidence of a conspiracy? Why are you so obtuse?
Please make note of the sentence I posted under this very paragraph.
Clearly by your reaction, you did not comprehend and completely missed my point. I invite you to reread from the beginning, slowly.
fraze
01-16-2021, 06:26 PM
I'm done with you bruh. You have repeatedly undercounted the deaths and diminished the impact of the virus as only affecting the sick and elderly. I stated the comparison more clearly in my original post. But you're clearly dodging because you don't have an answer.
Do you. I'm out.
I'm done with you bruh. You have repeatedly undercounted the deaths and diminished the impact of the virus as only affecting the sick and elderly. I stated the comparison more clearly in my original post. But you're clearly dodging because you don't have an answer.
Do you. I'm out.
What about my making hundreds of posts about the matter, my thorough and long winded responses, and endless debating with 99% of the ppl in here, give you the impression that I’m dodging anything?
I welcome any and all opinion. I just ask you have the intellectual capacity to observe different perspectives objectively, and you have the ability to communicate your stance efficiently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_hwJkhNo9w
Yet another doctor coming out and explaining the deceptive practices going on. 30 minutes. Brings out Supreme Court rulings, explains why these “vaccines” aren’t really vaccines, but gene therapy agents, and explains why that’s important as it relates to liability protection, and more.
These are the videos that people click on, see that it’s 30 minutes, and don’t watch.
And that’s the reason why you are still able to be duped, manipulated and controlled. They are relying on your short attention span distracting you from doing any research or listening to the professionals exposing shit
Also, did you know that every adverse reaction event from the Pfizer/moderna vax (defined by the cdc as “unable to work, or perform daily activities) are in the thousands, and are all reported to VAERS? Which means you can go right now and look up all the reported problems with any vaccine. There are hundreds of thousands
https://vaers.hhs.gov/
Objective
01-18-2021, 08:35 PM
Fear is the real virus that humanity is afflicted by.
Investigate the feelings in your body - seeking to escape it, perpetuates it - you run from it, & it runs you.
Blessing for the new year, be healthy in mind and body my G.
Didn't see this till now but you're 100% right. If onky logic and emotions went well together it would be a completely different battle. But accepting it is the first step and defo on that road now. What holds me back a lil is regular life stuff everyone goes through that hinders progress on the other stuff but at least it's 1 step forward and 1 back, then 2 steps forward and 1 back.
Definitely helps that everything else is getting better too as confidence and sense of self is normalizing and getting better every month. No more escaping with weed and other self destructive tendencies :)
I didnt get the vaccine I just thought about it...
I got krumping as fuck
WELL WELL WELL!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE ?!!?!?!?!?!?!
TURNS OUT I WAS RIGHT ( DUH)
Is this the WHO CONFIRMING what I, and millions of others, have discovered about this plandem- I mean, pandemic?
What a coincidence that HOURS after Biden is inaugurated, the WHO comes out with THIS:
https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05
TLDR?
The PCR test is unreliable as hell, gives out more false positives than you’d like to believe, leading to inflated numbers, never ending fear mongering, and false justification of mandatory “health measures”.
I’ve been telling y’all for MONTHS this was the case.
And NOW they wanna come out and say, you know, maybe this thing isn’t working right.
LMAOO
They don’t expect the general public to catch little things like this.
Nah bruh, WE SEE IT. That’s why we’re exposing it. We saw that change to the definition of herd immunity too.
Y’all starting to see the playbook? Come on you Monday morning QBs
1) Virus happens
2) PCR test determined to be flawed, but public doesn’t really know.
3) Use inflated numbers to stoke fear, blame deaths on current admin, slowly remove freedoms under guise of “safety”
4) This and other group thought strategy deployed through MSM works, Biden wins, freedoms taken
5) change PCR testing to be more accurate after victory. Convince public the numbers went down due to Biden/vaccine, freedoms still taken because why not
Do you REALLY think it’s IMPLAUSIBLE that a pandemic could be used for personal gain or political purpose. The timing of this doesn't strike you as odd?
Pay.
Attention.
the fuck... turn this nigga off and delete his shit
the fuck... turn this nigga off and delete his shit
Who tf are you gtfo
uh-oh
01-23-2021, 09:20 AM
coop dawg. they're blind bro. just look at the hank aaron thing. he gets the covid vaccine and strokes out. they say, well he is 86 any 86 year old can have a stroke and die the vaccine meant nothing. i would even be inclined to believe that. but those same people, would say covid killed him if he tested positive two days before this stroke. it wouldn't be the stroke of an 86 year old man. its not natural causes. its a pandemic you fool!
basically moral of the story those who think you're a nutcase ain't gonna change. the evidence and facts don't matter unless its spewed by one of the drones from the side of the aisle they align with
you motherfuckers stupid
fraze to tell us how the PCR test is basically perfect and the SAGE models that drove 98% of the policy on this thing were clearly flawless because - and get this - he actually watches the news.
my nigga.
Answer
01-23-2021, 12:15 PM
https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-...-users-2020-05
TLDR?
The PCR test is unreliable as hell, gives out more false positives than you’d like to believe, leading to inflated numbers, never ending fear mongering, and false justification of mandatory “health measures”.
The number of False positives overrepresent a population where the virus doesn’t exist. They’re more accurate when there are more people who are actually infected. The extreme examples of this concept are if 0% of the human population had the virus, then 100% of the false positive tests would be inaccurate. If 100% of the population has the virus, then clearly false positives don’t exist. It’s not that hard of a concept to understand, and it’s not new information. I learned about that shit freshman year of college before COVID even existed. This shit is statistics 101.
Anyone who is a legitimate scientist is aware of these facts and WHO has been stating these facts on their website publicly, because that’s what science is. A conspiracy implies a coverup of this information, this information has always been available and transparent.
This is only new information to people like coop because they’re uneducated.
In the meantime, over 60 million vaccines have already been administered worldwide. A disproportionate number of the people receiving those vaccines are people who are elderly or currently suffering from health issues. Again, people like coop are uneducated and have a hard time wrapping their brain around large numbers and don’t understand causality.
The fact is that there are valid arguments for being skeptical of the vaccine, but those arguments are getting weaker by the day and coop is too busy connecting newspaper clippings with strings of yarn in his moms basement to form a rational discussion.
fraze
01-23-2021, 08:14 PM
So I'm pretty much over this. Let's check in on COVID in 6 months and see who was right. Either the vaccine will have helped get this under control, or we'll all be krump zombies.
Strikta
01-24-2021, 12:01 AM
Dat rona vira
Yet another medical professional got a very similar condition to the lady in the OP shortly after the vaccine
https://www.facebook.com/100010372592633/posts/1283303835358691/?
The Dead Poet
02-03-2021, 10:44 PM
Haven't read thread. Don't really give a shit. But I'd like to add that I got the vaccine. My dick still works...so all is well here thus far.
fraze
02-03-2021, 10:53 PM
Date...............Covid deaths.....Krumping kases
01-13-2021.....382,120............1....................
02-03-2021.....450,567............2....................
I think you convinced me. This is getting pretty serious. Something has to be done.
Answer
02-03-2021, 11:16 PM
Vaccine doses administered globally: 108,115,680
At least 54 million people and coop has yet to provide evidence that supports his premise. Will also likely continue to be uninformed and refuse to concede that he was wrong
Date...............Covid deaths.....Krumping kases
01-13-2021.....382,120............1....................
02-03-2021.....450,567............2....................
I think you convinced me. This is getting pretty serious. Something has to be done.
I'm a little bored with COVID debates so I'll leave it at that without taking a position.
So I'm pretty much over this. Let's check in on COVID in 6 months and see who was right. Either the vaccine will have helped get this under control, or we'll all be krump zombies.
Still can’t help yourself I see.
#RentFree
Answer
02-03-2021, 11:19 PM
Still can’t help yourself I see.
#RentFree
Why aren’t 54 million people krumping coop?
Why aren’t 54 million people krumping coop?
Are you asking me why everyone who took the vaccine isnt experiencing the exact same side effect?
Thought you were smarter than that to ask such a stupid question
Answer
02-03-2021, 11:23 PM
Are you asking me why everyone who took the vaccine isnt experiencing the exact same side effect?
Thought you were smarter than that to ask such a stupid question
It’s a rhetorical question. Look the word up in a dictionary
You were wrong. Part of intelligence isn’t about always being right, but having the ability to understand and admit to yourself when you’re wrong and adapt your understanding of the world to improve in the future. That’s the lesson you should take away from this. Take a break from the YouTube conspiracy videos and go get laid
It’s a rhetorical question. Look the word up in a dictionary
You were wrong. Part of intelligence isn’t about always being right, but having the ability to understand and admit to yourself when you’re wrong and adapt your understanding of the world to improve in the future. That’s the lesson you should take away from this. Take a break from the YouTube conspiracy videos and go get laid
Look up the purpose of rhetorical questions. Your question doesn’t have any logical basis in which it makes sense to ask, seeing as how my stance never was “everyone who takes the vaccine will krump” or anything close.
I thought you were one of the smart ones smh
You can prove this to yourself by simply asking yourself what was I wrong about?
Answer
02-03-2021, 11:26 PM
Take a break from the YouTube conspiracy videos and go get laid
Take a break from the YouTube conspiracy videos and go get laid
Great deflection. I’ll take that as a “you’re right coop, so I have to diss you instead of providing an intellectual response.”
Par for the course
fraze
02-04-2021, 12:24 AM
Still can’t help yourself I see.
#RentFree
Yeah dude. It's easy laughs. I really can't help myself.
You've been wrong about literally everything and are still at it. There is a sad nobility in embracing stupidity so deeply and wholeheartedly. I find it both sickening and extremely entertaining.
Yet another medical professional trying to tell y’all what’s going on
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AR5BZpoAlzQR/
Pakistani Hand Cannon
02-14-2021, 03:30 AM
Take a break from the YouTube conspiracy videos and go get laid
the term conspiracy in and of itself doesnt imply that something is false - & youtube is just a platform where info, right or wrong, is shared.
dismiss shit as you feel - the fact is there's plenty muthafuckas in the medical & scientific fields who are opposed to the vaccine...have you inquired into any of their perspectives? naaaaaaawh cause you a mark & you dont look at anything other than what youre shown.
truth is stranger that fiction - often conspiracy is played off as being lunacy by people who are uninformed - but it stems from being too pussy to actually inquire to matters for yourself for fear of what it might implicate.
mark
Coop, would you argue with a bruddah who has his eyes closed what colour the sky is? - & it aint that bro is blind, he just holding them shits shut - but he still wanna argue with you...
anyway, blessings, even you hoe niggas like fraze n dem
fraze
02-14-2021, 04:32 AM
keep my name out your mouth.
at least Coop has enough brain cells for an intelligent (however misguided) debate.
you are the prototype for bottom feeding inbred internet morons. i have taken dumps with higher IQs than you.
why the fuck are you even here? this is a rap forum. your presence, input, and opinions are worthless.
Answer
02-14-2021, 09:12 AM
the term conspiracy in and of itself doesnt imply that something is false - & youtube is just a platform where info, right or wrong, is shared.
dismiss shit as you feel - the fact is there's plenty muthafuckas in the medical & scientific fields who are opposed to the vaccine...have you inquired into any of their perspectives? naaaaaaawh cause you a mark & you dont look at anything other than what youre shown.
truth is stranger that fiction - often conspiracy is played off as being lunacy by people who are uninformed - but it stems from being too pussy to actually inquire to matters for yourself for fear of what it might implicate.
mark
Coop, would you argue with a bruddah who has his eyes closed what colour the sky is? - & it aint that bro is blind, he just holding them shits shut - but he still wanna argue with you...
anyway, blessings, even you hoe niggas like fraze n dem
To date 172,000,000 vaccines have been administered worldwide. Given that people need 2 doses of some vaccines let’s just lowball and say that’s 86 million who have received the vaccine. Not only that, but a significant portion of those 86 million people are 65+ because that’s how the vaccines are prioritized.
I know you don’t have a lot of critical thinking skills so here’s a picture
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpTSjLHVYAAx-i1.jpg
I don’t know if you noticed, but that’s a lot of fucking people. If you’ve ever been on the ground level of a packed concert, you know that you can’t even physically move through the crowd because it’s nothing but bodies to your left and to your right, completely surrounding you in every direction.
That’s the Madison square garden. It’s not even filled to capacity. If you filled every seat in that stadium it’s 20,789 people
86 million is another 4,136 of those arenas. And there’s almost enough to fill up 4,137. And if you still struggle to imagine how much 4,136 is, it’s one out of every 5 people in that picture if every seat was filled. In less than a month it will be about 1/3rd of the entire United States population
If the vaccine had significant adverse effects, they would’ve been brought to light by now. Your argument only gets weaker every day because they’re filling more and more stadiums of people with vaccines, and so far all you’ve got to show for it is some middle aged redneck meth addict from Wyoming with Bell’s palsy
You’ve lost this. Go back to conspiracies about aliens or something else that’s not so easy to disprove
Blue Bayou
02-14-2021, 09:54 AM
I try and respect everyone's opinions as best as possible but God anti vaxxers, especially when it comes to the Covid vaccine, are fucking annoying
Blue Bayou
02-14-2021, 09:55 AM
To date 172,000,000 vaccines have been administered worldwide. Given that people need 2 doses of some vaccines let’s just lowball and say that’s 86 million who have received the vaccine. Not only that, but a significant portion of those 86 million people are 65+ because that’s how the vaccines are prioritized.
I know you don’t have a lot of critical thinking skills so here’s a picture
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpTSjLHVYAAx-i1.jpg
I don’t know if you noticed, but that’s a lot of fucking people. If you’ve ever been on the ground level of a packed concert, you know that you can’t even physically move through the crowd because it’s nothing but bodies to your left and to your right, completely surrounding you in every direction.
That’s the Madison square garden. It’s not even filled to capacity. If you filled every seat in that stadium it’s 20,789 people
86 million is another 4,136 of those arenas. And there’s almost enough to fill up 4,137. And if you still struggle to imagine how much 4,136 is, it’s one out of every 5 people in that picture if every seat was filled. In less than a month it will be about 1/3rd of the entire United States population
If the vaccine had significant adverse effects, they would’ve been brought to light by now. Your argument only gets weaker every day because they’re filling more and more stadiums of people with vaccines, and so far all you’ve got to show for it is some middle aged redneck meth addict from Wyoming with Bell’s palsy
You’ve lost this. Go back to conspiracies about aliens or something else that’s not so easy to disprove
Touche
Personally I know about 20 or so people in the Healthcare industry that have got both shots at this point... 100% all good across the board
Witty
02-14-2021, 04:50 PM
So sad about all these millions of people dying cuz of Bill Gates vaccine.
F.
Pakistani Hand Cannon
02-14-2021, 07:13 PM
keep my name out your mouth.
at least Coop has enough brain cells for an intelligent (however misguided) debate.
you are the prototype for bottom feeding inbred internet morons. i have taken dumps with higher IQs than you.
why the fuck are you even here? this is a rap forum. your presence, input, and opinions are worthless.
or what?
1. You have zero presence.
2. Why you concerned about worth on a internet forum?
3. I rap better than you.
sit down hoe
To date 172,000,000 vaccines have been administered worldwide. Given that people need 2 doses of some vaccines let’s just lowball and say that’s 86 million who have received the vaccine. Not only that, but a significant portion of those 86 million people are 65+ because that’s how the vaccines are prioritized.
I know you don’t have a lot of critical thinking skills so here’s a picture
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpTSjLHVYAAx-i1.jpg
I don’t know if you noticed, but that’s a lot of fucking people. If you’ve ever been on the ground level of a packed concert, you know that you can’t even physically move through the crowd because it’s nothing but bodies to your left and to your right, completely surrounding you in every direction.
That’s the Madison square garden. It’s not even filled to capacity. If you filled every seat in that stadium it’s 20,789 people
86 million is another 4,136 of those arenas. And there’s almost enough to fill up 4,137. And if you still struggle to imagine how much 4,136 is, it’s one out of every 5 people in that picture if every seat was filled. In less than a month it will be about 1/3rd of the entire United States population
If the vaccine had significant adverse effects, they would’ve been brought to light by now. Your argument only gets weaker every day because they’re filling more and more stadiums of people with vaccines, and so far all you’ve got to show for it is some middle aged redneck meth addict from Wyoming with Bell’s palsy
You’ve lost this. Go back to conspiracies about aliens or something else that’s not so easy to disprove
Case & point; all ego hoe shit. I'm not interested in winning anything or you losing.
You seem to want to go off on a whole buncha shit i never mentioned. How telling.
Again the only point ive made on these matters is there are plenty people who you would concede have a higher understanding of biology than you that are opposed to the vaccine - but you refuse to even look at their perspectives before defending your own. That's a fact - & Without first seeing that primary level of ignorance, there is no intelligence to actually have a dialogue.
I'd happily be wrong on matters to find the Truth. You'd rather appear right than be right. There's the difference.
Letme just highlight this dunce shit for you
If the vaccine had significant adverse effects, they would’ve been brought to light by now
1. vaccines are usually trialed for 10+ years - suggesting no adverse affects after a year or someshit as proof of its safety just highlights how dumb you approach shit. like a nigga smoking a cigarette claiming he's fine after 2mins as proof is doesnt affect the lungs. wisen up.
2. brought to the light? from who? the implication of a conspiracy is a cover up - you out here saying "its not a cover up, otherwise the people who are covering it up wouldve told me". That is mental retardation in the actual sense of the word.
that is the logic you bruddahs work with and talk about critical thought - like you have a clue what that entails. it requires you actually take a holistic approach to a matter, exercising discernment after looking at the whole picture, & following the outcome with courage - regardless of how unsettling it may be. you exercise none of that - again, too pussy, & its easy to regurgitate what youre told.
anyway, thats too many jewelz already from me to you.
you're welcome
...& fraze, youre a ballbag
fraze
02-14-2021, 09:07 PM
Since you rap better than me, go ahead a set up a battle.
Listing all the reasons your parents were ashamed to give birth to you just feels mean if I'm not making it rhyme.
You're a fucking moron. I'm not replying to you again outside a battle thread.
Pakistani Hand Cannon
02-14-2021, 11:17 PM
how many times...."im over it. im not talkin to you"...posts 10 mins later
youre a mong
Answer
02-14-2021, 11:33 PM
1. vaccines are usually trialed for 10+ years - suggesting no adverse affects after a year or someshit as proof of its safety just highlights how dumb you approach shit. like a nigga smoking a cigarette claiming he's fine after 2mins as proof is doesnt affect the lungs. wisen up.
So after being proven wrong, you wish to change your argument from “the vaccine will make you Krump endlessly less than 48 hours after receiving it” to “well maybe it might someday possibly affect somebody in some likely who knows idk it’s not impossible that in 10+ years that it’ll perhaps manifest in some unpredicted god willing feasibly mayhaps it could should be bad for society founded on no data that I have from 10 years in the future it could be bad, nobody has data proving or disproving that so it must be in my favor despite that in real time today and not from 10+ years in the future that 2.4 million people and growing people have died from covid in and the number of strains are mutating and becoming more contagious/deadly on a monthly basis” And mind you, the 2.4 million people who have died are not being trialed for 10+ years. They’re dead after about 3 weeks.
Good to see your logic is 100% rock solid
You’ve offered no evidence of credible medical or scientific workers who oppose the vaccine. Coop has posted a video of a hick woman shaking and a CNA telling an anecdotal story that has no due context. A fucking CNA. You don’t need a college degree or an understanding of biology to be a CNA. They are the second lowest on the totem pole of “medical professionals”. They're babysitters, they give patients sponge baths. The vast majority of CNAs aren’t even authorized to give intravenous shots, they don’t do even the SLIGHTEST amount of medical work. Ouch could be a fucking CNA. My wife has a bachelors in microbiology, a masters degree, she used to work for NIH and currently works as a pathologist assistant and actually deals with medical specimens on a daily basis. My brother in law is a surgical PA and works in the OR. Both were vaccinated with both shots over a month ago with zero side effects. Is there at least one medical professional or scientist in the world who would oppose the vaccine? Of course there is. Go back to that picture of Madison square garden. There’s millions and millions of medical professionals and scientists in the world, I’m sure you can find 1000 or so that are going to be opposed to it, because no group of people that large is a monolith. Your problem is you look at those 1000 people as confirmation of your biased ideology and ignore the other 50 million people who are saying take the vaccine. You’ll listen to the receptionist behind the computer that schedules appointments at the hospital and call them a “medical professional” as long as they agree with your viewpoint and take that as gospel over the millions of actual medical professionals and scientists that make up the CDC, the FDA, the NIH, the WHO, etc. along with every single FDA and CDC equivalent from every other country in the world that is currently distributing the vaccines and who are all saying to take the vaccine. Then somehow you think that every single country, on a worldwide level, despite centuries of inability to cooperate together on foreign social, fiscal, and political policies that they've all put aside their hundreds of years of difference to orchestrate the most complex and elaborate cover-up that’s ever been managed on a global scale and distribute a vaccine to frontline medical workers and old people for what motive? You think governments are just tired of having old people and doctors so they said "Let's fast track those groups to the vaccine and kill them off for funzies"
The fact that you don't see the number of hoops you're jumping through to save yourself from having to deal with reality is absurd in itself, and you keep building more hoops as time goes on. That’s why it’s important for you to know you’ve lost, because you keep going deeper and deeper down the same hole. If you refuse to admit you’re driving the wrong way and nobody stops you to tell you, you’re just going to keep driving further and further in the wrong direction without ever looking at the map
Case & point; all ego hoe shit. I'm not interested in winning anything or you losing.
You seem to want to go off on a whole buncha shit i never mentioned. How telling.
Again the only point ive made on these matters is there are plenty people who you would concede have a higher understanding of biology than you that are opposed to the vaccine - but you refuse to even look at their perspectives before defending your own. That's a fact - & Without first seeing that primary level of ignorance, there is no intelligence to actually have a dialogue.
I'd happily be wrong on matters to find the Truth. You'd rather appear right than be right. There's the difference.
Ether. Impossible to grasp without true objectivity.
So after being proven wrong, you wish to change your argument from “the vaccine will make you Krump endlessly less than 48 hours after receiving it” to “well maybe it might someday possibly affect somebody in some likely who knows idk it’s not impossible that in 10+ years that it’ll perhaps manifest in some unpredicted god willing feasibly mayhaps it could should be bad for society founded on no data that I have from 10 years in the future it could be bad, nobody has data proving or disproving that so it must be in my favor despite that in real time today and not from 10+ years in the future that 2.4 million people and growing people have died from covid in and the number of strains are mutating and becoming more contagious/deadly on a monthly basis” And mind you, the 2.4 million people who have died are not being trialed for 10+ years. They’re dead after about 3 weeks.
Good to see your logic is 100% rock solid
You’ve offered no evidence of credible medical or scientific workers who oppose the vaccine. Coop has posted a video of a hick woman shaking and a CNA telling an anecdotal story that has no due context. A fucking CNA. You don’t need a college degree or an understanding of biology to be a CNA. They are the second lowest on the totem pole of “medical professionals”. They're babysitters, they give patients sponge baths. The vast majority of CNAs aren’t even authorized to give intravenous shots, they don’t do even the SLIGHTEST amount of medical work. Ouch could be a fucking CNA. My wife has a bachelors in microbiology, a masters degree, she used to work for NIH and currently works as a pathologist assistant and actually deals with medical specimens on a daily basis. My brother in law is a surgical PA and works in the OR. Both were vaccinated with both shots over a month ago with zero side effects. Is there at least one medical professional or scientist in the world who would oppose the vaccine? Of course there is. Go back to that picture of Madison square garden. There’s millions and millions of medical professionals and scientists in the world, I’m sure you can find 1000 or so that are going to be opposed to it, because no group of people that large is a monolith. Your problem is you look at those 1000 people as confirmation of your biased ideology and ignore the other 50 million people who are saying take the vaccine. You’ll listen to the receptionist behind the computer that schedules appointments at the hospital and call them a “medical professional” as long as they agree with your viewpoint and take that as gospel over the millions of actual medical professionals and scientists that make up the CDC, the FDA, the NIH, the WHO, etc. along with every single FDA and CDC equivalent from every other country in the world that is currently distributing the vaccines and who are all saying to take the vaccine. Then somehow you think that every single country, on a worldwide level, despite centuries of inability to cooperate together on foreign social, fiscal, and political policies that they've all put aside their hundreds of years of difference to orchestrate the most complex and elaborate cover-up that’s ever been managed on a global scale and distribute a vaccine to frontline medical workers and old people for what motive? You think governments are just tired of having old people and doctors so they said "Let's fast track those groups to the vaccine and kill them off for funzies"
The fact that you don't see the number of hoops you're jumping through to save yourself from having to deal with reality is absurd in itself, and you keep building more hoops as time goes on. That’s why it’s important for you to know you’ve lost, because you keep going deeper and deeper down the same hole. If you refuse to admit you’re driving the wrong way and nobody stops you to tell you, you’re just going to keep driving further and further in the wrong direction without ever looking at the map
You said all that to say
"Well it isn't happening to A LOT OF PEOPLE" & "I didn't look through the thread so I missed the credible doctors who are opposed to the vaccine"
And you framed it as someone winning and someone losing.
Overall lazy, borderline irrelevant, and amateurish.
Pakistani Hand Cannon
02-15-2021, 02:40 PM
more replying to things i never said.
not reading your story past here...
So after being proven wrong, you wish to change your argument from “the vaccine will make you Krump endlessly less than 48 hours after receiving it”
until you kindly quote me where i made this argument - & goodluck with that.
to prove something wrong - you have to be able to comprehend what is actually being said first.
cart. horse. you're discombobulated. take a seat with the other marked out dunce in the corner.
& its not that you've lost shit brodie - its more that you are lost.
fraze
02-15-2021, 09:32 PM
Ether. Impossible to grasp without true objectivity.
I agree with the quote too. You're just using it wrong. You assume we don't examine perspectives of medical professionals who disagree with vaccines.
I've looked at all of your "evidence". Every single time. I also am weighing that evidence against (1) the opinions of many other medical professionals with a wide variety of opinions, (2) data about incidence of the virus, and (3) basic common sense about the spread and prevention of viruses.
each of these things not only largely contradict your opposing viewpoints, but also support each other as more reasonable interpretations of facts than the ones you propose.
you call me ignorant for evaluating these minority views in light of the majority views, data, and common sense. ironically you're the one who refuses to fairly evaluate the opinions of people who know more about the subject than you do.
replace the word oppose with support in the original quote and now it applies to you.
i reserve the right to ignore or respond to your stupidity at any point in the future based on my feelings in that moment of time.
I agree with the quote too. You're just using it wrong. You assume we don't examine perspectives of medical professionals who disagree with vaccines.
ironically you're the one who refuses to fairly evaluate the opinions of people who know more about the subject than you do.
Who's doing the assuming here?
Also, please reference the evidence you have of me "unfairly evaluating the opinions of people who know more about the subject than I do"
each of these things not only largely contradict your opposing viewpoints, but also support each other as more reasonable interpretations of facts than the ones you propose.
Very easy to say blanket statements like this INSTEAD OF individually addressing any specific point made.
Any attempts you've made in the past haven't worked. I see you're still trying though. Keep it up.
i reserve the right to ignore or respond to your stupidity at any point in the future based on my feelings in that moment of time.[/QUOTE]
Destroyer
02-16-2021, 02:46 PM
you’re still going?
give up. you lose.
fraze
02-16-2021, 03:02 PM
Who's doing the assuming here?
You are. I was pretty clear about that in my post, not sure how I lost you on that. Or are you going to pretend you never claimed I'm not examining the perspectives of your selected professionals?
Also, please reference the evidence you have of me "unfairly evaluating the opinions of people who know more about the subject than I do"
See every thread where we've argued about the COVID pandemic. A key assumption on your part is that the opinions of medical professionals who are not generally experts with viruses or infectious diseases should be taken over the opinions of the CDC, the organization that was specifically created to address pandemics and is widely regarded as one of the most knowledgeable voices on the subject.
And you go way above and beyond simply disagreeing with their professional opinions. You basically accuse them of engaging in a conspiracy to willfully mislead the entire world population and trick people into taking a vaccine for some nefarious (but as yet unspecified) purpose. What part of that is a unbiased evaluation based on the facts?
Even assuming your medical experts are equally credible (but to be clear they are NOT), at best you would be able to claim that the science is controversial or inconclusive. Jumping from that to a worldwide conspiracy is not supported by evidence and a clear indication of your biased perspective.
Very easy to say blanket statements like this INSTEAD OF individually addressing any specific point made.
Just following your lead my friend. Besides every time I refute your arguments point by point you just ignore any comments you find inconvenient and goal post shift to focus on some minor semantic or technical detail where you feel you are correct.
See your upcoming response for examples. I will also accept a non response as proof that your argument is baseless.
fraze
02-16-2021, 03:24 PM
On a tangential but mostly unrelated note, one of the easiest ways to detect biased opinions is to see how they change over time. Opinions based on evidence will get updated as new information comes to light. They might become more complete as blanks are filled in from unknowns, they might add arguments or nuance based on new information, or they might trim out parts that were previously speculated but weren't borne out by the data.
When someone's opinion is completely unchanged by new information, it either means the original opinion was perfect from its inception (this is a rare enough occurrence that it can be set aside in practice for most complex topics) or that they aren't listening to new information and have pre-determined their opinion to be correct.
Answer
02-16-2021, 03:30 PM
you’re still going?
give up. you lose.
the entire human race has lost, des
Witty
02-16-2021, 04:24 PM
On a side note...did Chyeahhh die?
My man would have been in his element with this shit.
RIP?
You are. I was pretty clear about that in my post, not sure how I lost you on that. Or are you going to pretend you never claimed I'm not examining the perspectives of your selected professionals?
You clearly missed the point of me posting your 2 quotes
See every thread where we've argued about the COVID pandemic. A key assumption on your part is that the opinions of medical professionals who are not generally experts with viruses or infectious diseases should be taken over the opinions of the CDC, the organization that was specifically created to address pandemics and is widely regarded as one of the most knowledgeable voices on the subject.
Pure bullshit. I’ve quoted and posted links to and from many credible experts in the field including professionals still employed by the cdc. Every single medical professional I’ve sourced is smarter than you. Nice try at making up shit though .
And you go way above and beyond simply disagreeing with their professional opinions. You basically accuse them of engaging in a conspiracy to willfully mislead the entire world population and trick people into taking a vaccine for some nefarious (but as yet unspecified) purpose. What part of that is a unbiased evaluation based on the facts?
Even assuming your medical experts are equally credible (but to be clear they are NOT), at best you would be able to claim that the science is controversial or inconclusive. Jumping from that to a worldwide conspiracy is not supported by evidence and a clear indication of your biased perspective.
Iirc, I addressed this in a long winded response to Ajax, specifically addressing if I felt it was a conspiracy or not among doctors worldwide. It might’ve been in the other big thread I made. Once you read that, you will realize what you wrote here is a huge, incorrect, assumption on your part, and mostly stereotypical.
If you’re gonna make a shit post at least make it concise
fraze
02-18-2021, 11:46 PM
every time I refute your arguments point by point you just ignore any comments you find inconvenient and goal post shift to focus on some minor semantic or technical detail where you feel you are correct.
See your upcoming response for examples.
Enough said.
The Dead Poet
02-19-2021, 09:00 AM
had my second dose Tuesday. Felt like dog shit for last two days. Body sore as fuck and wed had shivers. All in all wasn't that bad.
Diablo
02-19-2021, 09:08 AM
hope you and your midget Mexican brother die for real
Witty
02-19-2021, 12:21 PM
That’s not very nice tbh Diablo
The Dead Poet
02-19-2021, 05:44 PM
hope you and your midget Mexican brother die for real
Hope's a powerful drug....That Messican blood is strong brother. We eat jalapenos and habeneros....no disease/virus can take us out.
Hope's a powerful drug....That Messican blood is strong brother. We eat jalapenos and habeneros....no disease/virus can take us out.
LOL.. I didn't even read majority of this thread.. and I bet you big rolly poly Poet would take you down, guilltine... and his brother? how old are you that niggas brother hasn't posted since b-boys. And I'd be right next to both of them because they have been here forever and at least Poet still does some shit tht has to do with production/beats/whatever.
Its just so lame for people to talk on here, yes!! I know I'd bet on my life in a fight I could beat up 90% of people on here. So what big deal.. lets move on past that lame shit, we're mid 30's not in high school.
If you still write text, or fuck with beats, or acutally rap thats dope.. or even if you're like me and just log on a few months and talk shit and drop songs...ok
Diode
02-20-2021, 10:47 PM
hope you and your midget Mexican brother die for real
Oh good you dropped the gimmick
The Dead Poet
02-21-2021, 01:10 PM
Someone mentioned to me that they heard (not sure how true this is) the side effects were worse for people that already had the covid. I had it in march so that makes sense now why it hit me so hard.
Pakistani Hand Cannon
02-27-2021, 05:28 PM
one thing i learned here since i already knew you niggas dont think for yourselves...
fraze is an absolute mong lol
"im not posting no more" ...carries on posting the most - incl explaining why he's still posting
"im not talkn to you no more" ...next post is entirely based around what i said
zero conviction. zero intelligence. 100% hoe.
Pakistani Hand Cannon
03-09-2021, 10:10 PM
damnn, i see it now...
covid dangerous as fuck
just checked the total death figures in the US in 2020 compared to 2019
covid aint playing - even the flu dont want no parts
shittt
triple your masks up man - its not a symbol of subservience & silencing yourself - get that super safe adequately tested vax bros!
salutations
Answer
03-10-2021, 09:32 AM
damnn, i see it now...
covid dangerous as fuck
just checked the total death figures in the US in 2020 compared to 2019
covid aint playing - even the flu dont want no parts
# of U.S. Covid Deaths sourced from https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths?country=IND~USA~GBR~CAN~DEU~FRA&fbclid=IwAR1FJ7zN-xzAOlRaTzjxk1YKxGlfnF6S69NbbXKiHVCGN3cmcNKrpUXhfDA
https://i.imgur.com/OBSQ8zP.jpg
This can be fit with the linear regression of y = 4658x + 12627
Summation of the values x = (13, 14, 15, 16... 24)
73181 + 77839 + 82497 + 87155 + 91813 + 96471 + 101129 + 105787 + 110445 + 115103 + 119761 + 124419
In other words, with a linear model at our current rate ~1,185,600 more will die within the next year
U.S. Flu Deaths per year over the last 10 years:
2011: 37,000
2012: 12,000
2013: 43,000
2014: 38,000
2015: 51,000
2016: 23,000
2017: 38,000
2018: 61,000
2019: 34,000
2020: 22,000
Add all of those up: 359,000. On average that means the flu kills 35,900 per year
In other words, covid in it's first year killed about as many people as the flu would kill in 14 years
In a span of 2 years, covid would kill as many people as the flu would kill in 47 years
Vaccines are being distributed at an incredible rate. 1/10 Americans are fully vaccinated at this point (https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-03-01/cdc-10-of-us-adult-population-fully-vaccinated-for-coronavirus?fbclid=IwAR1jsf5TOHn21g7zO0M39xpmGo3UU Feefga6QZKF9XZb-T39ZDNWq8HUQII), of course the death rate is going to go down.
The number of people being vaccinated increases drastically every day, so obviously the actual number of deaths is going to decrease in the future. That's only because fortunately antivax idiots like you aren't in charge of anything other than your own masturbation schedule
Diode
03-10-2021, 09:53 AM
guys i'm in the novavax trial and got the real thing and i'm still not krumping
can anyone help me
fraze
03-10-2021, 10:07 AM
one thing i learned here since i already knew you niggas dont think for yourselves...
fraze is an absolute mong lol
"im not posting no more" ...carries on posting the most - incl explaining why he's still posting
"im not talkn to you no more" ...next post is entirely based around what i said
zero conviction. zero intelligence. 100% hoe.
setup or shut up bitch.
Answer
03-10-2021, 10:51 AM
modified previous post
Hey bro these official figures exhibit numerous discrepancies but more importantly they're being used to drive policy on some legislative precedents which are objectively stripping our liberties under the guise of our safety from bodies which haven't really, historically cared about it all that much?
You what mate? The official figures say we should bend over, relax and not worry about it. I don't know about the rest of you anti-vaxxers but I'm intelligent and not at all guilty of conflating any issues because I'm capable of measured debate. I don't even respond to what you actually say, just what I think you say and immediately group you in with. You enjoy your liberty you pseudo intellectual faggots while you're dead fam, I'm lubing my asshole up over here and vociferously decrying anyone who doesn't follow suit. Smh fucking mouth-breathers.
This thread. Like, anecdotally I know numerous people in healthcare on a personal level who have told me some bone-chilling shit in the past year. Beyond that, a committee of scientists have tried to take the government/SAGE to tribunal for the complete incompetence and downright deceit during this whole debacle.
Most of you have generally lost the ability to talk about this, reacting emotionally and egoically. But hey, follow the guidelines. You'll be fine.
setup or shut up bitch.
damn. known mediocre 'topical' battler and the only black guy in his state to avidly collect yugioh cards finna dust off the mic he hasn't used since before his join date. 10-20.
excited for this!
fraze
03-10-2021, 05:33 PM
Hey bro these official figures exhibit numerous discrepancies but more importantly they're being used to drive policy on some legislative precedents which are objectively stripping our liberties under the guise of our safety from bodies which haven't really, historically cared about it all that much?
You what mate? The official figures say we should bend over, relax and not worry about it. I don't know about the rest of you anti-vaxxers but I'm intelligent and not at all guilty of conflating any issues because I'm capable of measured debate. I don't even respond to what you actually say, just what I think you say and immediately group you in with. You enjoy your liberty you pseudo intellectual faggots while you're dead fam, I'm lubing my asshole up over here and vociferously decrying anyone who doesn't follow suit. Smh fucking mouth-breathers.
This thread. Like, anecdotally I know numerous people in healthcare on a personal level who have told me some bone-chilling shit in the past year. Beyond that, a committee of scientists have tried to take the government/SAGE to tribunal for the complete incompetence and downright deceit during this whole debacle.
Most of you have generally lost the ability to talk about this, reacting emotionally and egoically. But hey, follow the guidelines. You'll be fine.
damn. known mediocre 'topical' battler and the only black guy in his state to avidly collect yugioh cards finna dust off the mic he hasn't used since before his join date. 10-20.
excited for this!
I'll have you know Yugioh is very popular among the blacks.
uh-oh
03-10-2021, 05:53 PM
my grandma got her second vax shot a week ago and is currently at deaths door
she's like 95 tho, so a stiff breeze could've put her there
old people die
Pakistani Hand Cannon
03-10-2021, 07:08 PM
# of U.S. Covid Deaths sourced from https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths?country=IND~USA~GBR~CAN~DEU~FRA&fbclid=IwAR1FJ7zN-xzAOlRaTzjxk1YKxGlfnF6S69NbbXKiHVCGN3cmcNKrpUXhfDA
https://i.imgur.com/OBSQ8zP.jpg
This can be fit with the linear regression of y = 4658x + 12627
Summation of the values x = (13, 14, 15, 16... 24)
73181 + 77839 + 82497 + 87155 + 91813 + 96471 + 101129 + 105787 + 110445 + 115103 + 119761 + 124419
In other words, with a linear model at our current rate ~1,185,600 more will die within the next year
U.S. Flu Deaths per year over the last 10 years:
2011: 37,000
2012: 12,000
2013: 43,000
2014: 38,000
2015: 51,000
2016: 23,000
2017: 38,000
2018: 61,000
2019: 34,000
2020: 22,000
Add all of those up: 359,000. On average that means the flu kills 35,900 per year
In other words, covid in it's first year killed about as many people as the flu would kill in 14 years
In a span of 2 years, covid would kill as many people as the flu would kill in 47 years
Vaccines are being distributed at an incredible rate. 1/10 Americans are fully vaccinated at this point (https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-03-01/cdc-10-of-us-adult-population-fully-vaccinated-for-coronavirus?fbclid=IwAR1jsf5TOHn21g7zO0M39xpmGo3UU Feefga6QZKF9XZb-T39ZDNWq8HUQII), of course the death rate is going to go down.
The number of people being vaccinated increases drastically every day, so obviously the actual number of deaths is going to decrease in the future. That's only because fortunately antivax idiots like you aren't in charge of anything other than your own masturbation schedule
Stopped reading at
U.S. Covid Deaths sourced
I said, total deaths, period.
Not deaths attributed to covid, genius.
You seem to have habit of responding to things that are not actually said.
You're over eager. Try again.
setup or shut up bitch.
tell me how youre not posting in this thread some more when you get flustered you ballbag
talm bout set it up lol if you wanna punch a nigga in his shit, punch that nigga, dont ask him to get in the ring like he's cordial with you.
anyway...
hope you grams gets better uhoh - & if not may she go with grace
love.
edit
damn. known mediocre 'topical' battler and the only black guy in his state to avidly collect yugioh cards finna dust off the mic he hasn't used since before his join date. 10-20.
excited for this!
what was it? blue eyes black dragon or some shit? lmao that shit was fiiire
fraze
03-10-2021, 07:12 PM
tell me how youre not posting in this thread some more when you get flustered you ballbag
talm bout set it up lol if you wanna punch a nigga in his shit, punch that nigga, dont ask him to get in the ring like he's cordial with you.
anyway...
setup or shutup bitch
Pakistani Hand Cannon
03-10-2021, 07:16 PM
you was ghosting this thread hard huh? lol
fraze
03-10-2021, 07:20 PM
you was ghosting this thread hard huh? lol
setup.
or shut up.
ya bitch.
Pakistani Hand Cannon
03-10-2021, 07:25 PM
make me
Answer
03-10-2021, 07:52 PM
I said, total deaths, period.
Not deaths attributed to covid, genius.
Hit me with the link to your sources broski. It's cool that you've got the data on 2020 mortality before the CDC has even released it. I swear to God you better not link me to a Tucker Carlson tweet or a Breitbart article
fraze
03-11-2021, 12:11 AM
make me
When your mouth writes checks your ass can't cash, you should:
a) Set up
b) Shut up
c) Stop being a bitch
d) Keep my name out your mouth
I'll have you know Yugioh is very popular among the blacks.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/003/406/trap-card-2.jpg
what was it? blue eyes black dragon or some shit? lmao that shit was fiiire
lol word the cartoon was pretty fire back in the day ngl
Pakistani Hand Cannon
03-12-2021, 06:52 PM
When your mouth writes checks your ass can't cash, you should:
a) Set up
b) Shut up
c) Stop being a bitch
d) Keep my name out your mouth
no1 mentioned you - you been dismissed to sit in the corner.
now & you sound broken on repeat.
iunno what set up, checks & cash you talkin bout lil nigga. sit down.
Hit me with the link to your sources broski. It's cool that you've got the data on 2020 mortality before the CDC has even released it. I swear to God you better not link me to a Tucker Carlson tweet or a Breitbart article
it stopped at Nov tbf. but nah on the link.
find out yourself.
you make assumptions & reply to imaginary things - highlighting your lack of receptivity to look at info fairly for fear it disturbs your beliefs. you're already shut down.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/003/406/trap-card-2.jpg
lol word the cartoon was pretty fire back in the day ngl
is that this fraze hoesenberg? he look like bro we bought food for onetime outside that dusty open mic shit.
shit, i hope he gravy. he look better.
edit - Eŋg holla me if this blue eyes black faggot casting nigga raps @ me.
fraze
03-13-2021, 12:32 AM
He's a Twitter finger gangsta. For real, I can't stand him
All you do is finger blast... you're a pussy Hand Cannon
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/003/406/trap-card-2.jpg
lol word the cartoon was pretty fire back in the day ngl
LOL I knew a nigga like this with the magic the gathering, if thats what it is.. cards..
nigga joined a cult and then quit, or so i'm told... but my boys told me while they were smoking weed and rapping and playing video games and what not he approached all of them
nigga asked them if he could have a peice of their hair.. and said he wanted a piece of their toe nails, but if they didn't want to take their shoes off a finger nail clipping would suffice.
and he was dead serious.. I wasn't there but whoa...
shit would be mad cool though just walk up random people and be like...
I don't mean to be weird, but lemme get a piece of your hair and your toe nail clippings.. not trying to be weird or anything.
Pakistani Hand Cannon
03-15-2021, 01:52 AM
He's a Twitter finger gangsta. For real, I can't stand him
All you do is finger blast... you're a pussy Hand Cannon
who you talkin to with this "he's this, he's that"? you hurt rn.
& if you cant stand a nigga - drop him. dont beg him to play by your bitch nigga ways.
now kindly stop projecting how hoe you are in my direction.
thanks.
edit - snnnap i just realised that was a bar, damnnn im slow - i thought it was just you being a whiny hoe as per usual
fraze
03-16-2021, 06:11 PM
Really not the brightest. Guess we'll blame it on your bad genes
Since the dangers too apparent... I hope you told yours to skip the vaccine
Pardon me for bringing art to the board. You're starting to bore.
It's hardly a war when... your only chance at winning is the Darwin Arwards
Pharaohs Army
03-16-2021, 08:43 PM
got the J&J vaccine 4 days ago.
0 side effects.
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