Man with Uzi vs Tiger , who would win

[Mike Wrecka]

your in a thirty by thirty foot enclosure with a Tiger that is hungry and ferocious and intent on killing you in an instant.

you have a fully loaded uzi

who comes out alive ?

[Certain]

From one of my favorite magazine stories ever, about the crazy Zanesville Zoo story:

The tiger jumped, straight up and out. That's what separated the tigers: It was the ground they could cover, even after they had been shot dozens of times. "They thrashed," Lawhorne says, searching for the right words. "They somersaulted." The other animals, even the lions, went down when they were shot; the tigers went up. Bullets turned them into birds. They flew.

Full story: http://www.esquire.com/features/zanesville-0312

Tigers are some bad motherfuckers. If it got on you too quickly, it might be able to take you out even if you hit it first. In that case, you'd both be dead.

[2tripple0]

yeah they're also on the endangered list and hunted like mothafuckas good luck with ya tiger friend tho ey

[Witty]

Did you know there are more tigers kept as pets in America than there are wild tigers in all of India?

[Sn00p]

From one of my favorite magazine stories ever, about the crazy Zanesville Zoo story:



Full story: http://www.esquire.com/features/zanesville-0312

Tigers are some bad motherfuckers. If it got on you too quickly, it might be able to take you out even if you hit it first. In that case, you'd both be dead.

this is the problem with animals. they don't give a FUCK if they get hit. they'll still rape the fuck outta u. there's similar stories with monkeys for example. u can hit 'em all u want, they don't CARE. that's why i'd say the human can't come out unharmed in the scenario mike outlined. but then again, i don't think the tiger would be unharmed either. so a double death seems likely. at least major injuries on both sides when only one dies.

[2tripple0]

that aint true brother if you hit like a baby seal the mutha seal is gonna fuckin protect its young ones it would probably kill itself in an attempt to save its family

[Rawn M.D.]

id say both die

but if that tiger close ud die first

[Plot]

Fire to the face, hit the brain. Think quick be precise man wins

[2tripple0]

dont know mate think about it if man had like a elephant gun dont know mate snds like tiger dead on arrival truth be told

[God Of War]

drop the uzi and fist fight the fucking tiger BE A MAN

[Rawn M.D.]

Rudyard Kipling

[Geno]

drop the uzi and fist fight the fucking tiger BE A MAN

My thoughts precisely. Ftw

[Diode]

Fire to the face, hit the brain. Think quick be precise man wins

be precise with an uzi?

ever shot an uzi?

lol

[Certain]

Another thing in this is tigers can jump 30 feet. He wouldn't need to get much of a running start.

[uh-oh]

give me an uzi and i'll give you a tiger pelt

[Mike Wrecka]

give me an uzi and i'll give you a tiger pelt

unless you shoot it in the head, throat or heart it will get to you and rip your throat out with one swipe imo

[uh-oh]

how many shots does an uzi have? aim at the ground in front of it and unload

30 by 30 to a tiger is nothing. he'd cross it in an instant

but if i have a fair chance to spray and pray i like my chances

tigers aint gonna run through bullets, its gonna get hit and re evaluate every choice its made in its life

[Certain]

how many shots does an uzi have? aim at the ground in front of it and unload

30 by 30 to a tiger is nothing. he'd cross it in an instant

but if i have a fair chance to spray and pray i like my chances

tigers aint gonna run through bullets, its gonna get hit and re evaluate every choice its made in its life

That's literally exactly what it will do. These things don't stop when they get hit. That story I posted earlier in this thread was about hunting them with elephant tranquilizers, which are far more effective than uzi bullets. Your only real chance is to get it in the eye or some other hole in the skull for a direct brain hit. Even then, there's a good chance it will die mid-leap and land on you.

[Rawn M.D.]

yea unless u on some Moglie sht ur pretty much done for if u in same enclosure and that sht wants to attack

[Certain]

Your best hope might be to curl up, play dead and pray the tiger isn't hungry

[Rawn M.D.]

lol no Certain

tigers are not bears, they are far more curious and keen
it will devour u

this is what they say to do if ur being stalked by a mountain lion (mountain lion not tiger): extend ur arms out, spread ur legs, look as big as possible, act fearless, throw rocks and yell...do not act like easy prey and do not attempt to run bc that will turn on predator/prey response

[Certain]

So then spraying an uzi in the air instead of at the tiger might work?

[Rawn M.D.]

shooting the uzi would b good period

at the tiger, even better

[Certain]

If you hit it without killing it, then it's definitely going to come after you.

[Rawn M.D.]

nah - as long as ur not easy prey

they are opportunist like most other apex predators

and curious like other cats

u hit it now they aint curious and the opportunity is diminished

[Certain]

nah - as long as ur not easy prey

they are opportunist like most other apex predators

and curious like other cats

u hit it now they aint curious and the opportunity is diminished

You're at most 30 feet from a fucking tiger. You hit it in the leg with a bullet. It's coming after you on survival instincts alone. It's already going to be on edge because it's in a 30-by-30 cage.

[Rawn M.D.]

lol yeah i forgot how small the enclosure is

tbh its coming after u regardless

they are territorial as fuck

[Wise Wiggles]

Fuck this whole scenario imo. You hear about that hot blonde in Cali who worked at that cat zoo? Snapped her neck in less than a second. Fuck that. Especially with a fucking Uzi? Maybe a shotty.

[Rawn M.D.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxwrbIUwTfo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG6rmANsZxA

[uh-oh]

an uzi has at least 30 bullets right

it can fire them all in like 2 seconds tops

ima fill that tiger with more holes than it knows what to do with. not an elephant tranquiliser. that shits a dart. an uzi shoots what like 9mm rounds? im eating that tiger anywhere i hit. tearing apart ligaments and murking the fuck out of it

[Certain]

Tigers have ridiculously thick skin. Your only hope is hitting it in the brain somehow, probably through the eye.

[uh-oh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bZuy5rmFE

vs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MUAOStqrCc

[E-Thugs inc.]

Make dat tiger suck my tonio.

[Rawn M.D.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C7rq5S942I

[uh-oh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY55s_65ovA

vote- team people

[Rawn M.D.]

i think by the time u got the uzi up n even roughly aimed ud b mauled

[Certain]

i think by the time u got the uzi up n even roughly aimed ud b mauled

That's an important part of the scenario. Do you get to get yourself settled and find some bearings in the cage before the tiger is unleashed? Does the tiger? I mean, if this is literally a case where you and the tiger are both shoved into the cage together, it's going to be on top of you way before you can react. But if you have time to aim and position yourself well, then maybe you get off accurate-enough shots to survive.

[Rawn M.D.]

also are there physical barriers in the cage to like duck behind n block off..

cuz if its a str8 open area tiger is to agile to b accurate imo

[Rawn M.D.]

but on the real i still feel even if u painted the tiger

if it was fully engaged without a str8 headshot

u goin get got

it may die after

but u goin die first

animals register pain diff than humans

[God Of War]

a bullet to the brain is a bullet to the brain

[Rawn M.D.]

without a headshot God Of War

[uh-oh]

lol rawn the thing aint gonna be running zig zags, its gonna be running straight at you, it wont be hard to miss

and why would i have to lift the gun and aim and etc, that would imply the tiger got the jump on me and would make the scenario unfair

i'm picturing a door sliding up me coming in one side him coming in the other

i see him im spraying as he begins to charge

after i empty im in the fetal protecting my neck

he'll bleed out from that at least 20 gunshots to the face/head/shoulder and front leg areas

not to mention if one clips his spine his dumbass will hit the dirt and be trying to go back in the hole he came out of with only his front legs working

[Fig]

The only chance you have of killing a tiger with those little 9mm rounds is by shooting it directly in the FUCKIN EYEBALLS

the 30 by 30 foot space is ideal for how close the shot would have to be, but again in that confined of a space the persons reaction time would have to be blaaazing fuckin fast. Personally, I take the tiger 7 times out of 10

[Rawn M.D.]

lol @ me picturing the tiger runnning eluding gun fire while stayin on the attack

na bro but that sht would close in mad quick
and then pounce which gotta equal like = 5ft at least

u gotta get the gun up and at least aim in a general area to even come close

i mena just like it aint goin have the jump on u
u aint goin have that heat cocked n aimed either

its goin b barrel @ ground at first
u gotta lift that sht and by that time that sht goin b face up

[God Of War]

a tiger isnt going to take 20 bullets to the face and live

[uh-oh]

word^

im thinking tho, 30 feet is only 10 yards. im thinking its like 30 yards away lol, 30 feet sounds far but it aint thats like what, two vans back to back?

might have to renig. close to no chance of survival for either in the scenario

at like 30 yards i figure the thing would be close to dead by the time it gets to me.

also they go straight for the neck so if your face up its gonna slash and wack you in the shoulder/head, so you gotta hope it dont just JUG you right there, but its main goal is to turn you around and chomp on your neck. pop your head right off your spine

but yea i dunno its a tossup

[Witty]

Vote Fox.

[God Of War]

my thing is if ur poointing it right at the tiger and shooting an uzi at it. thats alot of bullets for 30 feet

[Rawn M.D.]

lol no toss up

thats like closing disrance for a tiger

u got like 3 seconds to cock aim n fire

[God Of War]

it said the original uzi can shoot 10 rounds per second

thats 30 bullets if it took 3 seconds

tiger dead

[Wise Wiggles]

^ that must be a really accurate gun then right? lmmfao.


you got a tiger wanting to rip your head off and eat it like a peach. you think you can spray an UZI effectively enough to take it down? we got some fucking delta force chuck norris commandos amongst yo.

[Witty]

The tiger would win because the tiger is a hunter and is a killer.

I don't care what anyone says, if anyone here was put in a cage with a tiger they would be dead before they even had a chance to do anything, myself included obviously.

The fantasy of 'I would shoot him to pieces before he got to me' is just a fantasy...if you were put in that position having never shot an uzi, or even if you had shot one, shooting a gun for fun is one thing, shooting something to keep yourself from being mauled and killed is another thing altogether....I am pretty sure most people would panic even if just for a split second, or maybe even freeze in fear...then they would be killed.

The average Tiger is a born killer and hunter, the average man is not.

[Fig]

You have a better chance with the uzi on semi auto tbc

[God Of War]

^ that must be a really accurate gun then right? lmmfao.


you got a tiger wanting to rip your head off and eat it like a peach. you think you can spray an UZI effectively enough to take it down? we got some fucking delta force chuck norris commandos amongst yo.

how is it delta force? u got a big ass tiger coming at u only thirty feet away. if u have to be trained to hit a broad target from only thirty feet ur ass dont need a gun anyways and should stick to baking potatos

[Wise Wiggles]

lol you could be 8 ft away and maybe only hit it 2/30. by that point your arm is a nice little crunchy snack for it though.

[Rawn M.D.]

Man u not factoring nerves n sht

tiger got no nerves

tiger Goin eat ur face

[God Of War]

lol you could be 8 ft away and maybe only hit it 2/30. by that point your arm is a nice little crunchy snack for it though.

dawg the tigers i seen at the zoo wouldnt be that hard to hit from 30 feet away esp with most the shots being fired between 20-15 feet


it isnt like the uzi goes flailing all crazy in insane directions when you squeeze a trigger unless you are a little kid shooting it..... or holding the shit sideways with one hand rofl

[God Of War]

Man u not factoring nerves n sht

tiger got no nerves

tiger Goin eat ur face

a brain is a brain rofl

[God Of War]

fuck you whys ima buy a tiger u son of a bitch and if i get ate its ur fault

[Witty]

@Mike Tyson

[Fig]

Mike Wrecka

I gotta say, this is a far better topic than your wolf vs pit bull thread. I applaud your efforts

[Wise Wiggles]

This ain't no fluffy petting zoo cuddles & kisses kitty cat GoW

this is a "I haven't ate in 3 weeks, you look yummy" type blood driven beast who is hell bent on you decorating the inside of his stomach.

[God Of War]

This ain't no fluffy petting zoo cuddles & kisses kitty cat GoW

this is a "I haven't ate in 3 weeks, you look yummy" type blood driven beast who is hell bent on you decorating the inside of his stomach.

to late BUYING OEN GON SHOOT IT WITH SOMETHING!

[uh-oh]

im still on team people

there is a reason they are endangered

humans used to kill them niggas with spears yo

indians throw rocks at them and scare them back into the bush

im gonna fucking light it up

i dont need to aim with an uzi. point and spray

the 30 feet is the only problem in this scenario because it can cross that just as fast as you can empty the uzi

so its situational

this thread has no legit answer. further debate is pointless

now a tiger vs a grizzly is something i could get deeper into

[Rawn M.D.]

Gow did u watch my first YouTube post about fatal attractions commentary?

that about dood in the projects in Harlem who had the tiger lolz

[God Of War]

i didnt see no vid where is it?

[Brian Bryan]

that tiger nice wit dem hands, b?

[KZVR]

im still on team people

there is a reason they are endangered

humans used to kill them niggas with spears yo

indians throw rocks at them and scare them back into the bush

im gonna fucking light it up

i dont need to aim with an uzi. point and spray

the 30 feet is the only problem in this scenario because it can cross that just as fast as you can empty the uzi

so its situational

this thread has no legit answer. further debate is pointless

now a tiger vs a grizzly is something i could get deeper into


lma00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000


u gotta be a new type of stupid, fagg0t


next time i see a 30 ft cage with a fully grown tiger in it ill throw u in there with nothing but a spear and stones and see whos gonna be shitting their pants


roflzzzzzz @ team people


human intellect is basicallly cheating

were the fucking nerds of the animal kingdom bringing swords to a fist fight

we gotta use a spear to kill shit from a distance


u want fair go up against a 500 pound polar bear and watch it slash ya face off with a backhand slap


btw rawn is a lame fagg0t

[Rawn M.D.]

Brb YouTube of Tiger mauling giraffe neck

[Sho Money EMG]

Brb YouTube of Tiger mauling giraffe neck
Rawn get at me on aim

[Plot]

The tiger isn't gonna pounce on you straight away, its gonna eye you for a little bit, sizing you up, your gonna have ample time to lift the uzi and spray its face, once you have started spraying metal in its face its gonna lose quick.

Bullets vs. Things with flesh containing mushy brains, who wins?

[God Of War]

The tiger isn't gonna pounce on you straight away, its gonna eye you for a little bit, sizing you up, your gonna have ample time to lift the uzi and spray its face, once you have started spraying metal in its face its gonna lose quick.

Bullets vs. Things with flesh containing mushy brains, who wins?

no way plot, cuz they dont think a shit load of bullets will kill a tiger!

[Witty]

Yeah if it is someone who has been trained to use the fucking gun lol I also love how you think the Tiger would think twice before pouncing on you, like he would if he was hunting prey lol don't be silly...if a Tiger saw someone 30 feet in front of them they would go for the kill...they are instinctive killers, we are not for the most part.

You would be dead before you go a chance to do shit.

[God Of War]

Yeah if it is someone who has been trained to use the fucking gun lol I also love how you think the Tiger would think twice before pouncing on you, like he would if he was hunting prey lol don't be silly...if a Tiger saw someone 30 feet in front of them they would go for the kill...they are instinctive killers, we are not for the most part.

You would be dead before you go a chance to do shit.

the old uzis shoot 10 rounds a second the new ones between 15 and 28 , a tiger is big u dont have to be a marksman to unleash an insane amount of bullets in a direction of a huge animals head and hit it if it is charging at you.

[Witty]

No. But you have to have the wherewithal and reactions to do that, and I can pretty much guarantee 99% of people would not have that and would be that Tigers breakfast.

[God Of War]

No. But you have to have the wherewithal and reactions to do that, and I can pretty much guarantee 99% of people would not have that and would be that Tigers breakfast.

lmao so ur saying 99 percent of people wouldnt raise a gun a few inches and squeeze a trigger? cuz you know we do also have a survival instinct you claim man is not hunters but we are survivors and theres been some insane things done by man to keep himself alive and raising a gun and killing something doesn't seem to hard.

[Witty]

The average man has lost his hunting instinct because we don't need it anymore, and yeah I am saying the average human being, when thrown in a cage with a Tiger would be scared shitless and would be killed before they even have a chance to get their thoughts together.

If, on the other hand they were told 'Here is a gun, there will be a Tiger in there...kill it'

They would be prepared and would probably stay alive. But if someone was armed and randomly found themselves face to face with a tiger with no prior warning, i think that person gets ate.

[God Of War]

The average man has lost his hunting instinct because we don't need it anymore, and yeah I am saying the average human being, when thrown in a cage with a Tiger would be scared shitless and would be killed before they even have a chance to get their thoughts together.

If, on the other hand they were told 'Here is a gun, there will be a Tiger in there...kill it'

They would be prepared and would probably stay alive. But if someone was armed and randomly found themselves face to face with a tiger with no prior warning, i think that person gets ate.

yeah but i was going by the scenario they presented u fox bastard lol they said put u in a cage with a tiger. i dont know bout ay one else but id assume something was gon go down if i was in a cage with a tiger. id probably accidently shoot the tiger even if he wasnt going to attack me simply cuz id assume he was

[Sn00p]

why do most of u think a tiger would react like a human to being shot at? animals do not give a fuck if they're hit & hurt. even if u fatally wound him, that thing is still gonna maul u. that's the whole point.

[God Of War]

why do most of u think a tiger would react like a human to being shot at? animals do not give a fuck if they're hit & hurt. even if u fatally wound him, that thing is still gonna maul u. that's the whole point.

how many things have you seen still living with 4 or 5 bullets in his brain? its not going to ignore bullets in the brain until it eats you maybe in the reuglar body part or a muscle part sure itd keep going but heart or brain the shit is done for

[Sn00p]

how many things have you seen still living with 4 or 5 bullets in his brain? its not going to ignore bullets in the brain until it eats you maybe in the reuglar body part or a muscle part sure itd keep going but heart or brain the shit is done for

ofc. but as several others said, it's highly unlikely that u hit a tiger right between the eyes if that thing's pouncing at u. so we have to assume that u hit 'em with a couple bullets, but probably none of them will go exactly into their brain or heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEKcAL0Kplc

look at this. the lion (which is essentially a weaker and slower tiger) is charging them from way more than 30 ft. and there is what? 5 men shooting at him? the lion mauls one guy and ACTUALLY MAKES IT AWAY. now put a tiger, which is bigger and faster than a lion, into a smaller cage with one human with a less accurate gun, and tell me that tiger isn't gonna fuck the poor dude up.

[Mike Wrecka]

the way i see this going down

the tiger leaps at you with its claws out

you shoot it while its in the air hitting it in its stomach with a shit load of rounds

it lands on you, mauls you to death

the tiger then goes in the corner and dies in like twenty minutes

[God Of War]

ofc. but as several others said, it's highly unlikely that u hit a tiger right between the eyes if that thing's pouncing at u. so we have to assume that u hit 'em with a couple bullets, but probably none of them will go exactly into their brain or heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEKcAL0Kplc

look at this. the lion (which is essentially a weaker and slower tiger) is charging them from way more than 30 ft. and there is what? 5 men shooting at him? the lion mauls one guy and ACTUALLY MAKES IT AWAY. now put a tiger, which is bigger and faster than a lion, into a smaller cage with one human with a less accurate gun, and tell me that tiger isn't gonna fuck the poor dude up.

but at closer range the target is bigger also with in a smaller space there is less room for error. and them guns was shot by the waiste i always think a gun you hold closer to eye level is more accurate then shooting from the waiste

[uh-oh]

anyone thinking that a tigers gonna be unphased by 30 fucking 9mm bullets is retarded

i could understand if it was just a 9mm semi auto, like a cop firing on it with a glock. yea your gonna need more than that

but what you guys dont understand is that an uzi is as accurate as it needs to be, if i aim at its feet and just hold the trigger its not gonna recoil too crazy, at least 20 of the 30 rounds are hitting that tiger

whoever said animals don't register pain like humans is a retard. go kick a dog. go shoot anything

tigers arent super heroes.

they are majestic killing machines

and whoever keeps saying humans dont have a kill instinct and aint hunters stfuuuuuuu

killing is what humans do

like i said in a 30 ft enclosure its a tossup because of the random variables (do you know when the door lifts up that a tiger is coming out of a door across from you? are you a frail faggot incapable of simply pointing at the thing and holding the trigger, is the tiger a nutcase?)

so i can see the argument either way, but its not because man is a ho, its because tigers are G's.

and you guys obviously can't wrap your head around how insane an uzi shoots

a tiger isnt a bear. it isnt covered in crazy blubber and cold weather shit. its got tough skin like a bear from fighting other tigers and shit, but yo if you shoot it in the side that 9mm bullet is in its guts. if your shooting it direct one 9mm bullet is gonna fracture its skull at the least. crack it. if 4 of those bullets hit anywhere in the skull its heads gonna be a smashed coconut and the other 16 bullets sprayed its neck and back and front arms. thats if you are terrible and miss 1/3 of your shots

which you wont, because your at 30 fucking feet

if you cant shoot anything you can hit with a football kill yourself

[Witty]

anyone thinking that a tigers gonna be unphased by 30 fucking 9mm bullets is retarded

i could understand if it was just a 9mm semi auto, like a cop firing on it with a glock. yea your gonna need more than that

but what you guys dont understand is that an uzi is as accurate as it needs to be, if i aim at its feet and just hold the trigger its not gonna recoil too crazy, at least 20 of the 30 rounds are hitting that tiger

whoever said animals don't register pain like humans is a retard. go kick a dog. go shoot anything

tigers arent super heroes.

they are majestic killing machines

and whoever keeps saying humans dont have a kill instinct and aint hunters stfuuuuuuu

killing is what humans do

Lol what world do you live in?

The AVERAGE human (notice the word average there, as in me and you) does not have a killer instinct, they live in a comfortable world, with no need to kill anything and have lost it, they would not last a second if they had to fend for themselves.

Pleassse dispute that,

Also, put more thought into what you're saying before you tell people to stfu, cuz it might come back on you.

The average human has lost their survival and hunting instinct...I don't even understand how you disagree with that lol

[Certain]

Mike Powell, a human, jumped 29 feet, 4¼ inches. Tigers can jump farther than humans. We're talking three steps and a leap for it to be entirely on top of you.

My best-case scenario bet is you kill the tiger but it lands, dead, on top of you and still feels like 600-plus pounds landing on top of you. More likely, the shots you land will be enough to cause the tiger to bleed out and die, but not before it lands on top of you and clubs you to death with a single paw swipe.

A trained hunter probably would prefer a long spear to an uzi in attacking a tiger for that reason. With a sharp and sturdy spear, you can keep some distance.

[uh-oh]

Lol what world do you live in?

The AVERAGE human (notice the word average there, as in me and you) does not have a killer instinct, they live in a comfortable world, with no need to kill anything and have lost it, they would not last a second if they had to fend for themselves.

Pleassse dispute that,

Also, put more thought into what you're saying before you tell people to stfu, cuz it might come back on you.

The average human has lost their survival and hunting instinct...I don't even understand how you disagree with that lolbecause we absolutely havent

go a couple days without food

look at what happens after natural disasters etc. we can revert to caveman QUICK when your children aint eating

and as far as the 9mm round being insufficient

im googling right now, and i dont know if you guys remember, or if it was just local news, but yo remember when that dude in NE ohio let all his exotic pets go and then killed himself?

well a police officer killed a bengal tiger that he stumbled across, with one shot from his 9mm service pistol

im sure it was probably an amazing shot. but thats just 1 bullet. throw 30 at it

[Certain]

because we absolutely havent

go a couple days without food

look at what happens after natural disasters etc. we can revert to caveman QUICK when your children aint eating

and as far as the 9mm round being insufficient

im googling right now, and i dont know if you guys remember, or if it was just local news, but yo remember when that dude in NE ohio let all his exotic pets go and then killed himself?

well a police officer killed a bengal tiger that he stumbled across, with one shot from his 9mm service pistol

im sure it was probably an amazing shot. but thats just 1 bullet. throw 30 at it

I linked to a story about that on the first page of this thread. I think the story you're thinking of was about a lion. The tigers were by far the hardest for them to track down.

[God Of War]

yeah i completely agree i dont knwo where witty got we have lost our survival instinct that shit is absurd. theres stories everyay of survival. we still have it and its still very much alive


also the tiger gets a couple bullets in his brain it isnt going to land on you and swipe you its going to land on you and be dead weight literally

[Certain]

yeah i completely agree i dont knwo where witty got we have lost our survival instinct that shit is absurd. theres stories everyay of survival. we still have it and its still very much alive


also the tiger gets a couple bullets in his brain it isnt going to land on you and swipe you its going to land on you and be dead weight literally

Right, I think you'd have to hit it in the brain, though. Without doing that, it'll still get to you and be alive enough to hit you, even if it was going to die from the wounds, too.

[uh-oh]

I linked to a story about that on the first page of this thread. I think the story you're thinking of was about a lion. The tigers were by far the hardest for them to track down.

no doubt, but they murked the fuck out of them

heres another article, who knows it might be what you linked lol

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/19/ohio-zoo-police-open-fire-on-tigers-and-lions/

“We just had a huge tiger, an adult tiger that must’ve weighed 300 pounds that was very aggressive,” Lutz said. “We got a tranquilizer in it and this thing just went crazy.”

Barbara Wolfe, a veterinarian, said she shot a tranquilizer dart into the tiger, but it got up and charged her from 15 feet (4.5 metres) away. A deputy shot the tiger dead.

that was already after being agitated/tranq'd and he downed it from 15 feet with a service pistol

[Sn00p]

but at closer range the target is bigger also with in a smaller space there is less room for error. and them guns was shot by the waiste i always think a gun you hold closer to eye level is more accurate then shooting from the waiste

in the slow mo, u can clearly see they're not shooting from the waist. and the lion is approaching them. so as he gets nearer, they should be able to hit them by your logic, which they don't do. so all my points still stand.

which means the tiger might die too, but the human ain't coming out alive.

[Witty]

because we absolutely havent

go a couple days without food

look at what happens after natural disasters etc. we can revert to caveman QUICK when your children aint eating



Amongst other people who also have no survival instinct lol

The average person does not know how to hunt, they do not know how to skin an animal, they do not know how to cook an animal that doesn't come from a store...they don't know how to make fire without using matches or a lighter, they do not know how to get the best out of their environment if they can't buy it, left alone with no food and no water in a forest full of animals and potential food, most people would die because they don't know how to survive....these are basic skills that the average 1st world person does not have any longer.

Would you survive in a forest alone for months? Or even with a group of people, if you had to make shelters, make weapons, kill animals, cook animals, make clothing, live through winter months, protect yourself from disease and infections, defend yourself and your family from wild animals with weapons you have to make yourself, if you literally had nothing and were left alone to fend for yourself...would you survive?

I am guessing not, and I would not either....but I know this because I am realistic.

Also, the average person does not think 'Kill'....the average person thinks 'Hide, and stay alive'

Dispute it all you want, if you put the average 1st world person in the wild to hunt and survive...it would not be long before they were dead.

[God Of War]

in the slow mo, u can clearly see they're not shooting from the waist. and the lion is approaching them. so as he gets nearer, they should be able to hit them by your logic, which they don't do. so all my points still stand.

which means the tiger might die too, but the human ain't coming out alive.

the chest area isnt much different then wasite imo. and as i said them dudes had different guns a wider area for error. its much easier to miss. if u try to shoot a fish in a river chances are you will miss. if u try to shoot a fish in a barrel the odds go into ur favor.

[Sn00p]

no doubt, but they murked the fuck out of them

heres another article, who knows it might be what you linked lol

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/19/ohio-zoo-police-open-fire-on-tigers-and-lions/



that was already after being agitated/tranq'd and he downed it from 15 feet with a service pistol

it was a 300 pound tiger, who was most likely already weakened by the tranquilizer. tigers can weigh up to 850 pounds tho (source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_tiger)). i honestly do not believe u can one shot such a tiger charging u from a 30 ft distance. and while u def can hit him with an uzi, u won't instantly kill him, which means that he will get to u and kill u. he might die afterwards tho. that's for sure.

[uh-oh]

Amongst other people who also have no survival instinct lol

The average person does not know how to hunt, they do not know how to skin an animal, they do not know how to cook an animal that doesn't come from a store...they don't know how to make fire without using matches or a lighter, they do not know how to get the best out of their environment if they can't buy it, left alone with no food and no water in a forest full of animals and potential food, most people would die because they don't know how to survive....these are basic skills that the average 3rd world person does not have any longer.

Would you survive in a forest alone for months? Or even with a group of people, if you had to make shelters, make weapons, kill animals, cook animals, make clothing, live through winter months, protect yourself from disease and infections, defend yourself and your family from wild animals with weapons you have to make yourself, if you literally had nothing and were left alone to fend for yourself...would you survive?

I am guessing not, and I would not either....but I know this because I am realistic.

Also, the average person does not think 'Kill'....the average person thinks 'Hide, and stay alive'

Dispute it all you want, if you put the average 3rd world person in the wild to hunt and survive...it would not be long before they were dead.
a lone wolf can't live on its own for long

humans are pack animals. tribes and shit yo, we depend on the collective groups effort. a human on his own is like a wolf on its own. it can survive for a longgg time. IF its a bad motherfucker. if it aint, it will die. whether its a wild animal or a soft human

[uh-oh]

it was a 300 pound tiger, who was most likely already weakened by the tranquilizer. tigers can weigh up to 850 pounds tho (source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_tiger)). i honestly do not believe u can one shot such a tiger charging u from a 30 ft distance. and while u def can hit him with an uzi, u won't instantly kill him, which means that he will get to u and kill u. he might die afterwards tho. that's for sure.

he would fucking die from 30 bullets

[God Of War]

Amongst other people who also have no survival instinct lol

The average person does not know how to hunt, they do not know how to skin an animal, they do not know how to cook an animal that doesn't come from a store...they don't know how to make fire without using matches or a lighter, they do not know how to get the best out of their environment if they can't buy it, left alone with no food and no water in a forest full of animals and potential food, most people would die because they don't know how to survive....these are basic skills that the average 1st world person does not have any longer.

Would you survive in a forest alone for months? Or even with a group of people, if you had to make shelters, make weapons, kill animals, cook animals, make clothing, live through winter months, protect yourself from disease and infections, defend yourself and your family from wild animals with weapons you have to make yourself, if you literally had nothing and were left alone to fend for yourself...would you survive?

I am guessing not, and I would not either....but I know this because I am realistic.

Also, the average person does not think 'Kill'....the average person thinks 'Hide, and stay alive'

Dispute it all you want, if you put the average 1st world person in the wild to hunt and survive...it would not be long before they were dead.

man your going by assumption, alot of people would survive and have survived in situations where they was never prepared nor trained for. its our survival instinct. and yeas i believe i could survive in a situation like that. and your wrong about the average person aswell your getting ur facts fucked up and our race is capable of much more then you are saying as i said before there is stories of it every day. would some die? of course but alot would live aswell

[Witty]

People do not know how to fend for themselves anymore, this is obvious...are you people fucking kidding me? lol

I wasn't aware I was on a site full of survivalists lol

SOME people can do this shit...but most of us would die very quickly.

[Witty]

a lone wolf can't live on its own for long

humans are pack animals. tribes and shit yo, we depend on the collective groups effort. a human on his own is like a wolf on its own. it can survive for a longgg time. IF its a bad motherfucker. if it aint, it will die. whether its a wild animal or a soft human

Put the average family in the same environment....nobody in an average family has any sort of survival knowledge...how would they stay alive?

Magic?

[God Of War]

i dont fucking get how people think any animal can have numerous bullets int here brain and still live or attack you from it

[Witty]

a lone wolf can't live on its own for long

humans are pack animals. tribes and shit yo, we depend on the collective groups effort. a human on his own is like a wolf on its own. it can survive for a longgg time. IF its a bad motherfucker. if it aint, it will die. whether its a wild animal or a soft human

Twice

[Certain]

he would fucking die from 30 bullets

Even a human, if you rattled his gut and legs and arms and even jaw up with 30 bullets, would stay alive for a few minutes.

In this scenario, you hit the brain or you die.

Keep in mind that cop was trained with a gun and that tiger was charging at someone else, not him.

[Sn00p]

the chest area isnt much different then wasite imo. and as i said them dudes had different guns a wider area for error. its much easier to miss. if u try to shoot a fish in a river chances are you will miss. if u try to shoot a fish in a barrel the odds go into ur favor.

u're drawing weird comparisons. but anyways, u cannot honestly tell me that an uzi is more accurate than a rifle shot the way those men do it, which is on their knees, with their face right next to it. (idk the english vocab to describe the postion more accurately.) that'd be delusional.

[God Of War]

People do not know how to fend for themselves anymore, this is obvious...are you people fucking kidding me? lol

I wasn't aware I was on a site full of survivalists lol

SOME people can do this shit...but most of us would die very quickly.

we are naturally survivalists. the shit is proven constantly over and over again

[God Of War]

u're drawing weird comparisons. but anyways, u cannot honestly tell me that an uzi is more accurate than a rifle shot the way those men do it, which is on their knees, with their face right next to it. (idk the english vocab to describe the postion more accurately.) that'd be delusional.

i am saying that exactly, smaller space, closer target, odds are much more in your favor. uve been hunting im sure?

[Sn00p]

he would fucking die from 30 bullets

never denied he would. but he would NOT die instantly. and that's the whole point. because that means he' still gonna get u.

[Witty]

man your going by assumption, alot of people would survive and have survived in situations where they was never prepared nor trained for. its our survival instinct. and yeas i believe i could survive in a situation like that. and your wrong about the average person aswell your getting ur facts fucked up and our race is capable of much more then you are saying as i said before there is stories of it every day. would some die? of course but alot would live aswell

I think you're wrong.

I think the majority die...the world we live in is so closed off from anything like that...how could they survive?

They have never had to deal with it...nobody in their family has had to deal with it for hundreds of years...how do they get through winters, and deal with infections and diseases?

I think it's the opposite....some may live, but most will die.

[God Of War]

never denied he would. but he would NOT die instantly. and that's the whole point. because that means he' still gonna get u.

heart shots kill /brain shots kill ive never seen an animal get shot directly in his brain and walk away and die some where else and ive never seen one get shot in his heart and walk off and die some where else

[uh-oh]

Put the average family in the same environment....nobody in an average family has any sort of survival knowledge...how would they stay alive?

Magic?

absolutely. magic.

FIRE. it is magic. if one of those people in that family was a boy scout for a day he learned how to make a fire with sticks

what if someone in that family was an actual hunter? he knows how to track animals, lets say he doesnt have a gun, he still knows how to snare shit etc.

thats just one "average" dude. he's already got fire and food for his family. his family in the mean time is finding water. now they're building shelter.

its that simple. find water. get shelter. get food. you'll be fine

most people would die off from scarcity over everything

[God Of War]

I think you're wrong.

I think the majority die...the world we live in is so closed off from anything like that...how could they survive?

They have never had to deal with it...nobody in their family has had to deal with it for hundreds of years...how do they get through winters, and deal with infections and diseases?

I think it's the opposite....some may live, but most will die.

we have a natural ability to survive its what we have done for thousands of years.

[Neighbor]

You die

That's the outcome

No matter what, the tiger kills you

[Witty]

Also, a survival instinct will only get you so far...unless you actually have some knowledge of hunting, knowledge of infections and diseases and how to prevent them, knowledge of what is good to eat and what is not, knowledge of finding food and building shelters...you die.

Do any of you have that knowledge? Cuz I don't....and I don't know anybody who does.

[uh-oh]

u're drawing weird comparisons. but anyways, u cannot honestly tell me that an uzi is more accurate than a rifle shot the way those men do it, which is on their knees, with their face right next to it. (idk the english vocab to describe the postion more accurately.) that'd be delusional.

a rifle is a long range weapon, it loses its effectiveness at close range because you cant move and be accurate with the long barrel and fire single shots

an uzi is a close quarters weapon, it is much more accurate when you take in the fact a single trigger pull can throw out 30 bullets. you can shoot from the hip and be more accurate than with a rifle at 30 feet

[Witty]

absolutely. magic.

FIRE. it is magic. if one of those people in that family was a boy scout for a day he learned how to make a fire with sticks

what if someone in that family was an actual hunter? he knows how to track animals, lets say he doesnt have a gun, he still knows how to snare shit etc.

thats just one "average" dude. he's already got fire and food for his family. his family in the mean time is finding water. now they're building shelter.

its that simple. find water. get shelter. get food. you'll be fine

most people would die off from scarcity over everything

The AVERAGE man is not a hunter though...that is ridiculous, the average man in the world today does not know shit about snaring things wtf lol

I'm saying take a typical suburban family and put them in an environment where they are no longer the top of the food chain...they die more often than not.

[Neighbor]

Also, a survival instinct will only get you so far...unless you actually have some knowledge of hunting, knowledge of infections and diseases and how to prevent them, knowledge of what is good to eat and what is not, knowledge of finding food and building shelters...you die.

Do any of you have that knowledge? Cuz I don't....and I don't know anybody who does.

Rawn to thread

[God Of War]

Also, a survival instinct will only get you so far...unless you actually have some knowledge of hunting, knowledge of infections and diseases and how to prevent them, knowledge of what is good to eat and what is not, knowledge of finding food and building shelters...you die.

Do any of you have that knowledge? Cuz I don't....and I don't know anybody who does.

the great thing about humans is we have a fast ability to learn and adapt. there is no way you couldnt figure out how to build a shelter? how to hunt or kill a fucking rabbit a bird or eat something?

[Certain]

I'll make this 100 percent guarantee: I would die in this scenario. Maybe you're harder than me. That's not too impressive. But I'd be fucking dead.

[Sn00p]

i am saying that exactly, smaller space, closer target, odds are much more in your favor. uve been hunting im sure?

the space doesn't have anything to do with it, if the tiger's is running at u directly like the lion in the video is. it's only the distance. and the distance is actually better in the lion video. because if those men didn't hit him when he charged from more than a 100 ft away directly up to them, how are they gonna hit him if he charges from 30 ft away directly up to him? if u lower the distance, that only means u have less time to hit him.
by your logic, if the tiger is only 30 ft away when he starts charging u, it's easier to hit him. but at one point the lion in the vid WAS only 30 ft away. and they didn't hit him hard enough during the time he needed to run the 30 ft directly up to them. as a matter of fact, they didn't even hit him during the time he needed to close a distance of more than a 100 ft.

[Sn00p]

heart shots kill /brain shots kill ive never seen an animal get shot directly in his brain and walk away and die some where else and ive never seen one get shot in his heart and walk off and die some where else

and yes, that's another thing i'm not denying. my point is that u would not be able to hit him directly in the brain.

proof of that is found above.

[Neighbor]

Right, I don't think y'all understand how short 30 feet is to a fucking tiger

[God Of War]

the space doesn't have anything to do with it, if the tiger's is running at u directly like the lion in the video is. it's only the distance. and the distance is actually better in the lion video. because if those men didn't hit him when he charged from more than a 100 ft away directly up to them, how are they gonna hit him if he charges from 30 ft away directly up to him? if u lower the distance, that only means u have less time to hit him.
by your logic, if the tiger is only 30 ft away when he starts charging u, it's easier to hit him. but at one point the lion in the vid WAS only 30 ft away. and they didn't hit him hard enough during the time he needed to run the 30 ft directly up to them. as a matter of fact, they didn't even hit him during the time he needed to close a distance of more than a 100 ft.

you need to think abotu what your saying...hitting a target thirty feet away is much easier then a target a hundred feet away right? and the uzi is a better up close gun then the rifle. its not hard to figure out bro a close up target is much easier to hit then a further away one

[uh-oh]

Also, a survival instinct will only get you so far...unless you actually have some knowledge of hunting, knowledge of infections and diseases and how to prevent them, knowledge of what is good to eat and what is not, knowledge of finding food and building shelters...you die.

Do any of you have that knowledge? Cuz I don't....and I don't know anybody who does.

just because YOU dont know anyone with that knowledge, doesnt mean i dont.

remember we had a discussion like this before? dont assume based on your experience solely?

<3

[Sn00p]

a rifle is a long range weapon, it loses its effectiveness at close range because you cant move and be accurate with the long barrel and fire single shots

an uzi is a close quarters weapon, it is much more accurate when you take in the fact a single trigger pull can throw out 30 bullets. you can shoot from the hip and be more accurate than with a rifle at 30 feet

i honestly do not know about this. but if 5 men with rifles didn't hit the lion in its brain, i doubt that one man with an uzi will.

[uh-oh]

the space doesn't have anything to do with it, if the tiger's is running at u directly like the lion in the video is. it's only the distance. and the distance is actually better in the lion video. because if those men didn't hit him when he charged from more than a 100 ft away directly up to them, how are they gonna hit him if he charges from 30 ft away directly up to him? if u lower the distance, that only means u have less time to hit him.
by your logic, if the tiger is only 30 ft away when he starts charging u, it's easier to hit him. but at one point the lion in the vid WAS only 30 ft away. and they didn't hit him hard enough during the time he needed to run the 30 ft directly up to them. as a matter of fact, they didn't even hit him during the time he needed to close a distance of more than a 100 ft.

they were using rifles

there is a reason the military carries pistols and other close combat weapons, at a certain range its just inefficient to try using a long rifle

give one of those hunters an uzi and he's painting the sand red

[Witty]

the great thing about humans is we have a fast ability to learn and adapt. there is no way you couldnt figure out how to build a shelter? how to hunt or kill a fucking rabbit a bird or eat something?

But that's looking past things like...infected cuts with nothing to disinfect them - death....winter months, regardless of whether you have a shelter or not, you could still easily die from the cold..no heating, no oil, no nothing - death. Relying on being able to find things to kill during those months without having a knowledge of the area or which animals are where in which seasons - Death.

The list goes on and on...it is not just a case of hunting and eating and building a house lol there are so many more factors to take into account...we don't have this knowledge any more, we don't get taught how to do these things. We get sick, we go see a doctor. We get cold, we get someone to fix the heating, we get too warm, we get someone to put air conditioning in. Tiny little things that we take for granted could easily kill us in nature.

You may survive, but the odds are you and everyone with you will die.

[Witty]

just because YOU dont know anyone with that knowledge, doesnt mean i dont.

remember we had a discussion like this before? dont assume based on your experience solely?

<3

I am not assuming...I am talking about the average man.

The average man does not have this knowledge and skill...that is just fact lol

[God Of War]

I am not assuming...I am talking about the average man.

The average man does not have this knowledge and skill...that is just fact lol

tha average man has natural instinct to survive and eat lol

[Witty]

tha average man has natural instinct to survive and eat lol

But instinct is useless without knowledge...instinct will make us try to eat and survive, but without the knowledge of HOW to do it...what use is that?

[God Of War]

I am not assuming...I am talking about the average man.

The average man does not have this knowledge and skill...that is just fact lol

a herdsman killed a lion with his bare hands


that dude wasnt trained to fight lions with his bare hands lol yet he won

[Witty]

a herdsman killed a lion with his bare hands


that dude wasnt trained to fight lions with his bare hands lol yet he won

Well done him...I'm not saying it can't happen or doesn't happen, I'm saying if me or you had been in that position we would more than likely not be here today.

[uh-oh]

I am not assuming...I am talking about the average man.

The average man does not have this knowledge and skill...that is just fact lol

just like the average man who listens to tech 9 is white

its science bro!

but yo let me ask you this, do you know your enviornment? i dont know where you live, but do you know the native animals and plants and shit?

i live in ohio yo, im in the city but im a short drive from da stickssss

i know whats around here. deers, squirrels, rabbits, chipmonks, mice, coyotes. tons of birds, all of which you can eat. give me a fucking bb gun and half a day and i'll feed a family of 4, 40 birds lol. fucking TURKEYS etc, no natural predators because we hunted them to extinction

i wouldnt know what plants to eat tho, but i know what a maple tree looks like. so im having fucking sweet cardinal yo marinated in maple syrup

all they put on tv is survival shows for the past 10 years

i think the average dude would do alright

like you said the worst thing is infections and shit, but AYO, thats been our nemesis forever. even when we did have "survival instincts" by your standards a simple cut on your foot could mean death

[Sn00p]

they were using rifles

there is a reason the military carries pistols and other close combat weapons, at a certain range its just inefficient to try using a long rifle

give one of those hunters an uzi and he's painting the sand red

well, i do actually believe u. i don't know for a fact how accurate an uzi is at close range. personally, i still doubt u are gonna be able to hit a tiger so accurately that he will die before he can kill u. but whether or not u can be so accurate is highly speculative and in the end determined by sheer chance and luck. so i won't continue to talk ab this. lol

gd points tho, friends.

[Witty]

just like the average man who listens to tech 9 is white

its science bro!

but yo let me ask you this, do you know your enviornment? i dont know where you live, but do you know the native animals and plants and shit?

i live in ohio yo, im in the city but im a short drive from da stickssss

i know whats around here. deers, squirrels, rabbits, chipmonks, mice, coyotes. tons of birds, all of which you can eat. give me a fucking bb gun and half a day and i'll feed a family of 4, 40 birds lol. fucking TURKEYS etc, no natural predators because we hunted them to extinction

i wouldnt know what plants to eat tho, but i know what a maple tree looks like. so im having fucking sweet cardinal yo marinated in maple syrup

all they put on tv is survival shows for the past 10 years

i think the average dude would do alright

like you said the worst thing is infections and shit, but AYO, thats been our nemesis forever. even when we did have "survival instincts" by your standards a simple cut on your foot could mean death


Lol you are reaching now.

Do you know what I mean by the average man?

I am not talking about you or me or anyone in particular...I'm talking about the average, 9-5 worker, sitting in an office, with healthcare and dental care, if they had to fend for themselves the odds are they would not survive because they don't know how to.


And also, when we DID live in the wild and hunted to live we knew which things were poisonous, we also knew which things would help with illnesses, we had knowledge of medicinal plants that the average man does not have any more. You're delusional if you think we could just step out into nature and be ok....we are not conditioned for it, we don't have the knowledge to survive.

Again...when I say the average man I mean the typical man, I'm aware there are people who could survive but if you picked a random person and put him in that environment he would be more likely to die than survive...that is just the truth lol

Also, good luck surviving in the wild based on half baked knowledge gained from a TV show.

[God Of War]

Lol you are reaching now.

Do you know what I mean by the average man?

I am not talking about you or me or anyone in particular...I'm talking about the average, 9-5 worker, sitting in an office, with healthcare and dental care, if they had to fend for themselves the odds are they would not survive because they don't know how to.


And also, when we DID live in the wild and hunted to live we knew which things were poisonous, we also knew which things would help with illnesses, we had knowledge of medicinal plants that the average man does not have any more. You're delusional if you think we could just step out into nature and be ok....we are not conditioned for it, we don't have the knowledge to survive.

Again...when I say the average man I mean the typical man, I'm aware there are people who could survive but if you picked a random person and put him in that environment he would be more likely to die than survive...that is just the truth lol

Also, good luck surviving in the wild based on half baked knowledge gained from a TV show.


actually them tv shows and movies can teach you how to start fires, skin animals etc.

also if your so sheltered that you can not figure out how to make shelter, hunt for food, know atleast 1 to 2 good berries and etc then i feel sorry because thats not an average human

[Witty]

actually them tv shows and movies can teach you how to start fires, skin animals etc.

also if your so sheltered that you can not figure out how to make shelter, hunt for food, know atleast 1 to 2 good berries and etc then i feel sorry because thats not an average human

But that isn't enough to survive for longer than maybe a few days tho.

Eventually, the odds are you will die.

[God Of War]

But that isn't enough to survive for longer than maybe a few days tho.

Eventually, the odds are you will die.


you highly underestimate the ability of man maybe its just different in ireland

[Witty]

Just got reminded of a quote from Bear Grylls (One of the world's leading survivalists) from a UK panel show based on opinion polls, when asked if people thought they would survive in the wilderness.

"I think most people probably think they could survive, but I think they probably could not"

Go and live in nature for a few weeks, with nothing but your clothes and your mind...then come back to me.

[God Of War]

Just got reminded of a quote from Bear Grylls (One of the world's leading survivalists) from a UK panel show based on opinion polls, when asked if people thought they would survive in the wilderness.

"I think most people probably think they could survive, but I think they probably could not"

Go and live in nature for a few weeks, with nothing but your clothes and your mind...then come back to me.

i come from a background of rednecks who is more comfortable in the woods then in a house...the woods dont scare me. i know how to fish, hunt, skin a pig a deer a squirell i know what time of the year squirells isnt diseased. birds.

and thats from someone who lived in a city and just visited that part of the family on weekends and etc


people are more capable then you think

[Witty]

i come from a background of rednecks who is more comfortable in the woods then in a house...the woods dont scare me. i know how to fish, hunt, skin a pig a deer a squirell i know what time of the year squirells isnt diseased. birds.

and thats from someone who lived in a city and just visited that part of the family on weekends and etc


people are more capable then you think


The average person does not have that knowledge tho lol

What is it about the word average that people don't get? The average man (not based on your environment, nor mine, nor anyone else here...I am talking about the basic survival knowledge of a random man you see on the streets) does not know how to skin a fucking squirrel lol

I spent most of my summers in forests, camping and building shelters, making fires, catching rabbits and shit.

But doing that is MUCH different than LIVING in the wilderness. we have comforts and luxuries that we are so used to and accustomed to that most of us just would not know what to do or how to survive for any significant length of time.

[God Of War]

The average person does not have that knowledge tho lol

What is it about the word average that people don't get? The average man (not based on your environment, nor mine, nor anyone else here...I am talking about the basic survival knowledge of a random man you see on the streets) does not know how to skin a fucking squirrel lol

I spent most of my summers in forests, camping and building shelters, making fires, catching rabbits and shit.

But doing that is MUCH different than LIVING in the wilderness. we have comforts and luxuries that we are so used to and accustomed to that most of us just would not know what to do or how to survive for any significant length of time.

survival hasnt got shit to do with it tho man. if u can hunt u can eat. if u can start a fire you can boil water etc

most humans have this knowledge is what im trying to say

a cut can kill u now if u dont go get it checked up so its no different in the woods.

i remember i learned how to make a fire with the two stick thing from seeing it on a movie and me and my friends wanted to try it when we was young and we wouldnt be trusted with a lighter. we saw it on a show, went and spent like a day trying it till one of us actually did it. my point is the average human is smarter then you think and has more survival knowledge then you let on


no one is dependant on ac or heat and can live with out them. it might suck but it can happen.....wild animals is different sure u can get attacked but u can in every day life to lol snakes spiders etc

[Witty]

Nobody is dependant on heat or AC?

You must live in mild climate....because aroud the world LOTS of people are dependant on things like that, and LOTS of people die without it.

I don't know how you would expect to survive the winter months, hypothermia, colds, flu, etc etc.

Without hospitals and doctors we are pretty useless, also there would be things like vitamin deficiencies, scurvy, not getting enough protein or other major dietary staples.

There are so many things that could kill us that we take for granted because we have things like vaccines, and we have doctors who know about things like that.

[Just C]

The man with the Uzi would win, unless he's a Far Cry Pirate in which case he's fucked.

[uh-oh]

so witty

what exactly are you arguing?

that the average person couldnt survive alone?

no shit. the baddest dude of all time who knows everything can't survive alone forever. i dont get what point you are trying to prove

[God Of War]

Nobody is dependant on heat or AC?

You must live in mild climate....because aroud the world LOTS of people are dependant on things like that, and LOTS of people die without it.

I don't know how you would expect to survive the winter months, hypothermia, colds, flu, etc etc.

Without hospitals and doctors we are pretty useless, also there would be things like vitamin deficiencies, scurvy, not getting enough protein or other major dietary staples.

There are so many things that could kill us that we take for granted because we have things like vaccines, and we have doctors who know about things like that.

man im beggining to think your the one hooked on the shit we have now adays. elder folks die from the heat. theres not alot of places where you cant get warm some how and not die from the cold. and the places that is like that is a place you put yourself in anyways. a thousand things can kill you spending an hour outside of your house. and a thousand things inside it. as i said its no different. being dependant on something doesnt mean you die without it.

[God Of War]

witty the way your talking is if the electricity went off for good that we would be wiped out as humans

[Witty]

man im beggining to think your the one hooked on the shit we have now adays. elder folks die from the heat. theres not alot of places where you cant get warm some how and not die from the cold. and the places that is like that is a place you put yourself in anyways. a thousand things can kill you spending an hour outside of your house. and a thousand things inside it. as i said its no different. being dependant on something doesnt mean you die without it.

Lol ok Tarzan.

I think you're completely wrong on this one, and I think it's because you aren't taking a lot of important things into account but word.

This discussion isn't going anywhere.

[Witty]

witty the way your talking is if the electricity went off for good that we would be wiped out as humans

No?

That is not what I am saying at all.

[Just C]

Going with out the electricity needed to supply our heaters ect would kill (hundreds of) thousands of vulnerable old people. why do you think so many of them move to Miami?

[God Of War]

No?

That is not what I am saying at all.

but it kind of is becuase if electric went out, food would not stay stored. ud have to hunt or scrounge food. you would have no ac, no heat, no stove. etc. power plants would fail to run factories etc so itd be one big survivalists dream lol

[God Of War]

Going with out the electricity needed to supply our heaters ect would kill (hundreds of) thousands of vulnerable old people. why do you think so many of them move to Miami?

old people is not the average man

[God Of War]

my bar b q is done i have to go for a while this was fun


UR MY BOY WITTY

[Just C]

old people is not the average man

Nah you're right. The average man would survive. Naturally some wouldn't. But thats just the same in our current circumstances WITH everything we need to survive. Are people forgetting the caveman era?

[uh-oh]

GOW i think he's talking about people ALONE. not like people as a society, even tribe like

but his argument is flawed from the jump because we aren't a lone animal. solitary or whatever

put a gorilla in a forest full of food and water if he aint with other gorillas he's gonna die. a lone wolf etc. theres a reason wolves ho out to the alpha. they can't make it alone

not much can. only shit like bears, tigers are pretty solitary, mountain lions etc.

[Witty]

Send a random family to the African Plains.

Do they survive?

I highly doubt It.

And word God Of War, It's all love lol

If everyone had the same opinions this place would be boring.

[uh-oh]

Send a random family to the African Plains.

Do they survive?

I highly doubt It.

And word God Of War, It's all love lol

If everyone had the same opinions this place would be boring.

what if its a random family from the africa plains?

and what do you mean by "survive"

do you mean live to die of old age? because without modern medicine thats like 40-50 tops lol

you get old dudes from ancient times, but they lived in civilised society, where they'd go to DA BUTCHER and had aqueducts and shit

a random family from ohio could "survive" in ohio

it all depends on what you mean by survive

[Witty]

I'm talking about a random 1st world family being put in an environment like the African Plains where they have to hunt to live, but also have to protect themselves from being hunted, we don't know how to live like that....we are used to being top of the food chain and not having to watch our backs or worry about where our next meal is coming from.

Put together with the fact they probably would only have a limited knowledge of medicine and food preparation and storage in the wild (No refrigerators, no freezers)...I personally don't see them lasting more than a few months.

[Just C]

Theirs some guy who is 126 spending all of those years in the Paraguayan wilderness.

/tHREAD

[Witty]

Theirs some guy who is 126 spending all of those years in the Paraguayan wilderness.

/tHREAD

You did not understand.

[Just C]

I did not read*

[uh-oh]

thats a stupid scenario tho

why wouldnt the family be surviving in the place they know? anyone would die if put in a place they don't know about

a tiger would die in antartica

i'm just trying to figure out your point

people in ohio for example know whats in ohio. theres poison ivy and poison oak and shit. i dont know what it looks like. i know its out there. i know there are streams all over the place and running water is good. i know there are animals everywhere, i know the weather is stable enough to where i could bunker down and make it through winter snows and all of that

if i have a family/group of people with me i could survive until dying of sickness or something easily

humans dont live in the african plains like that, because the african plains offer nothing but death to us. those who do, know the area, they know where to get water, they know the animals, hell they run lions off of there kills

you are just thinking humans are some soft meat bags who need cell phones. it aint like that dawg

we're the same genetically as we are 100 thousand years ago. nothings changed except for the shit we build

[Witty]

thats a stupid scenario tho

why wouldnt the family be surviving in the place they know? anyone would die if put in a place they don't know about

a tiger would die in antartica

i'm just trying to figure out your point

people in ohio for example know whats in ohio. theres poison ivy and poison oak and shit. i dont know what it looks like. i know its out there. i know there are streams all over the place and running water is good. i know there are animals everywhere, i know the weather is stable enough to where i could bunker down and make it through winter snows and all of that

if i have a family/group of people with me i could survive until dying of sickness or something easily

humans dont live in the african plains like that, because the african plains offer nothing but death to us. those who do, know the area, they know where to get water, they know the animals, hell they run lions off of there kills

you are just thinking humans are some soft meat bags who need cell phones. it aint like that dawg

we're the same genetically as we are 100 thousand years ago. nothings changed except for the shit we build

But that was my point from the beginning tho.

If 1st world humans were put into the Savannah of Africa they would not survive, even though there are people who can and do survive there....because in the 1st world we don't have to hunt and kill to survive.

I'm pretty sure Africans could survive in our wilderness, but we could not survive in theirs because we no longer have the knowledge of how to do so, whereas the humans who first occupied the Americas and Europe would have been much more well equipped physically and mentally to survive in any environment because they had to....Native Americans could survive in the plains of Africa much better than the average American could today.

I'm only using Americans as an example btw

The knowledge of how to survive and adapt is something we are losing because we don't need it any more, when early Europeans were forced to move into the northern regions where it was freezing cold, they had never experienced conditions like that before but they still had the basic skills and knowledge of how to adapt and survive.

I think the regular man in today's 1st world could not do that, because they have lived relatively comfortably all their life's and for generations, and have never needed to use that instinct or skill, the senses are dulled and the mind is not used to having to think that way.

[God Of War]

But that was my point from the beginning tho.

If 1st world humans were put into the Savannah of Africa they would not survive, even though there are people who can and do survive there....because in the 1st world we don't have to hunt and kill to survive.

I'm pretty sure Africans could survive in our wilderness, but we could not survive in theirs because we no longer have the knowledge of how to do so, whereas the humans who first occupied the Americas and Europe would have been much more well equipped physically and mentally to survive in any environment because they had to....Native Americans could survive in the plains of Africa much better than the average American could today.

I'm only using Americans as an example btw

The knowledge of how to survive and adapt is something we are losing because we don't need it any more, when early Europeans were forced to move into the northern regions where it was freezing cold, they had never experienced conditions like that before but they still had the basic skills and knowledge of how to adapt and survive.

I think the regular man in today's 1st world could not do that, because they have lived relatively comfortably all their life's and for generations, and have never needed to use that instinct or skill, the senses are dulled and the mind is not used to having to think that way.

actually if it was a tribe fromt here they would probably die pretty easi.ly here being hit by a car, or some other shit u got to watch out for.

[Mike Wrecka]

without electricity id say 80 percent of the human population is gone within the first five years
God Of War you talk about how easy it is to hunt for food but .... what about once all the bullets run out

we have no way to get gun powder to make more

you are hunting with bows and arrows then. how many people can use a bow, how many of those people have fireplaces to survive the winter. even then you can die from something like strep throat with no antibiotics

[God Of War]

without electricity id say 80 percent of the human population is gone within the first five years
God Of War you talk about how easy it is to hunt for food but .... what about once all the bullets run out

we have no way to get gun powder to make more

you are hunting with bows and arrows then. how many people can use a bow, how many of those people have fireplaces to survive the winter. even then you can die from something like strep throat with no antibiotics

most the hunting around here is done uring bow season. i can guarantee 90 percent of this area would survive easily

[God Of War]

without electricity id say 80 percent of the human population is gone within the first five years
God Of War you talk about how easy it is to hunt for food but .... what about once all the bullets run out

we have no way to get gun powder to make more

you are hunting with bows and arrows then. how many people can use a bow, how many of those people have fireplaces to survive the winter. even then you can die from something like strep throat with no antibiotics

we didnt always have antibiotics or fucking heaters yet we survived and we are here

[God Of War]

without electricity id say 80 percent of the human population is gone within the first five years
God Of War you talk about how easy it is to hunt for food but .... what about once all the bullets run out

we have no way to get gun powder to make more

you are hunting with bows and arrows then. how many people can use a bow, how many of those people have fireplaces to survive the winter. even then you can die from something like strep throat with no antibiotics

also its not hard to make penicillian

[Witty]

we didnt always have antibiotics or fucking heaters yet we survived and we are here
The point is though that we do have them now, and we have for a long time...we depend on those things now.

It isn't a case of we used to be able to do it so we still can because our way of life has changed drastically since then.

[God Of War]

The point is though that we do have them now, and we have for a long time...we depend on those things now.

It isn't a case of we used to be able to do it so we still can because our way of life has changed drastically since then.

lol man not every one here has the luxury of that kind of health care despite if they claim to give it or not. i know people who sleep in 3 coats and shoes and shit during winter, who dont go to the doctor or hospital, shit dudes break fingers and shit n splint it up themselves.

[YDK]

drop the uzi and fist fight the fucking tiger BE A MAN

id have to shoot myself first to make it a fair fight tbh

[Mike Wrecka]

well where i live a man was arrested for killing a squirrel with a BB gun in his back yard. thats right on his own land. worst part is the guy was a WW2 vet and had to serve probation after the court found him guilty. he said the are pests and destroying my garden, they didnt care. its illegal to kill any animals of any kind here. thats including birds and rabbits. there is a very limited area where hunting deer with a permit is allowed. some people go upstate to hunt but the majority dont.

i bet where i live is a better representation of the population as a whole. what percent is suburbs and cities? the majority. you backwood country bumpkins are far and few between. most people dont hunt these days.

after all the looting of the supermarkets and what not was done, the area that i live in would starve very quickly. people with a boat could fish but that for the most part is not year round.

did you see Manhattan after Hurricane Sandy those people were close to death after a week or two lmao

[God Of War]

id have to shoot myself first to make it a fair fight tbh

lmao , tiger takes ur apartment and ur girl!

[YDK]

i have hunted in years but i can make traps out of anythin, alot of plants can be eaten even if not very tasty, shit isnt that hard to live in the wilderness tbh with us being humans it really is common sense. get shelter, get fire, eat, drink. dont jump off of cliffs and dont poke things bigger than you

[Witty]

Bears are the best animals apart from foxes.

Then Tigers, and then Leopards and then Kangaroos.

[YDK]

lmao , tiger takes ur apartment and ur girl!

fuck that, i'd shoot both my knees out an beat that fuckin cat with my shins till its stripes were hidden by its bruises. i wouldnt even kill it, i'd train it ta use a catbox and give my kids a ride to school on its back. it knows who the fuckin gawd is

[YDK]

Bears are the best animals apart from foxes.

Then Tigers, and then Leopards and then Kangaroos.

no, wolves are the best

[Witty]

*Apart from foxes.

[YDK]

yes of course