Chauvin gets 22 years

[kungfugrip]

He'll be out in 5, but what a statement.

[UPN Zuch]

He'll be out in 5, but what a statement.

Out in 5? What, on appeal?

[kungfugrip]

There's a million reasons he won't do 22. But 22 is fucking huuuge. That's manslaughter.

I kinda feel bad for dude but now you know what it's likenyo be in The wrong place at the wrong time.

[UPN Zuch]

There's a million reasons he won't do 22. But 22 is fucking huuuge. That's manslaughter.

I kinda feel bad for dude but now you know what it's likenyo be in The wrong place at the wrong time.

What part of this do you feel bad for him for?

[UPN Zuch]

There's a million reasons he won't do 22. But 22 is fucking huuuge.

Don’t kill people that aren’t a threat to you. Seemed avoidable according to the HD video it was recorded on.

[kungfugrip]

Because ive spent time in a cell, but you're right, he murdered that man. Fuck him.

[kungfugrip]

Don’t kill people that aren’t a threat to you. Seemed avoidable according to the HD video it was recorded on.
The entitlement was what did it for me. People were actually screaming ar him to take his knee off his neck.

[UPN Zuch]

Because ive spent time in a cell, but you're right, he murdered that man. Fuck him.

He might get back on appeal. Only to get convicted again. That jury was stacked in his favor and it still took them 20 minutes. If you watched the sentencing you would see he had no remorse. Neither did his mother. Just why me bullshit.

[kungfugrip]

They'll pull some sneaky cop backdoor deal, he'll never do 22 years, but that's a huge statement and a wakeup call to police accountability

[kungfugrip]

For real, Maxine Waters gonna force a mistrial.

[kungfugrip]

Look up James Forcillo from here in Toronto

He murdered a kid on a streetcar and got away with attempted. This guy choked me out once, he was a ticking timebomb

[Bomb Bard]

Pussies

[Pharaohs Army]

There have been studies done about policing and it turns out white people are actually more likely to be killed by police than black people, even adjusting for % of the population. With all the high profile black killings though this fact seems lost on America. However, the same study also found that blacks are more likely to be "roughed up" by cops than whites.

[Lepreshaun]

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[uh-oh]

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[kungfugrip]

How durunk do you have to be to buy a girls onlyfans

Lmao this thread mafe a hilarious turn

[Answer]

There have been studies done about policing and it turns out white people are actually more likely to be killed by police than black people, even adjusting for % of the population. With all the high profile black killings though this fact seems lost on America. However, the same study also found that blacks are more likely to be "roughed up" by cops than whites.

Please provide a source

[Pharaohs Army]

Please provide a source

I believe it was a 2016 study by Roland Fryer (a black guy) of Harvard University.
The paper is titled "An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force".
10 major police departments from Texas California and Florida

I heard it on a 2020 Sam Harris podcast entitled "Can we pull back from the brink?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmgxtcbc4iU

He also admits the data is incomplete and it's only looking at three states.
But also cites another study:
"The best data we have suggest that, for whatever reason, whites are more likely to be killed by cops once an arrest is attempted. A more recent study in the proceedings of the National Academies of Sciences by David Johnson and colleagues found similar results."

[kungfugrip]

I believe it was a 2016 study by Roland Fryer (a black guy) of Harvard University.



Immediately false

[Answer]

I believe it was a 2016 study by Roland Fryer (a black guy) of Harvard University.
The paper is titled "An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force".
10 major police departments from Texas California and Florida

There are a couple issues with this. One of them being, as you pointed out, the very small sample size. This is observing 10 police departments out of (according to google) 17,985 police departments in America

The second issue is that this is not a scientific study, it's a working paper.

Here's a link:
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w22399/w22399.pdf

You can see on the first page, it specifically states

NBER working papers are circulated for discussion and comment purposes. They have not been
peer-reviewed or been subject to the review by the NBER Board of Directors that accompanies
official NBER publications

This is incredibly important, because this is treated a lot more casually than a scientific study. In science peer review is everything. A single scientist could be funded by Tobacco and draw the conclusion that there's no link between second hand smoking and heart disease. That doesn't mean that the data is accurate, or that the data has been interpreted correctly by the author. Peer review is a required in scientific studies and demands that professionals who are all experts in their respective fields do their best to ensure that the study done is valid and credible. Science is only considered valid when there is a consensus among scientists that the study can produce repeatable results

Further, this paper seems to indicate that from these 10 police departments, white people are more likely to be shot in "police-civilian interactions in which the use of lethal force may have been justifiable by law"

Which is interesting, but kind of misses the point. The vast majority of the instances that people are outraged over, such as Breonna Taylor, Tamir Rice, etc. are instances of black people being killed in police-civilian interactions where use of lethal force is NOT justifiable by law

So it is an interesting finding, and I'd genuinely like to know if the same results could be replicated on a larger scale than 10 police departments. But it's also looking at a different topic, and does not have enough scientific backing for anyone to claim that white people are actually more likely to be killed by police than black people

Which is not what the findings have concluded at all.

Let's say that white people ARE more likely to get shot by a police officer than a black person in an interaction that justifies lethal force (which is what the study claims).

If black people get profiled and pulled over a disproportionate number of times, they can still be killed more often

For example, if police shoot 15% of white people they encounter and they encounter 5,000 white people then that means they shot 750 white people

If police only shoot 10% of black people, but they pull over 10,000 black people then that means they shot 1,000 black people

So if you want to be precise, you'd need to say something more along the lines of "There's an working paper published in an economics journal that shows evidence that in an encounter that justifies lethal force, white people are more likely to be shot than black people"

but stating "It's a fact that white people are actually more likely to be killed by police than black people" is wrong for all 5 of the reasons I've posted above

[UPN Zuch]

This thread fucking sucks

[Geno]

He still has to go to federal trial, correct?

[Geno]

There are a couple issues with this. One of them being, as you pointed out, the very small sample size. This is observing 10 police departments out of (according to google) 17,985 police departments in America

The second issue is that this is not a scientific study, it's a working paper.

Here's a link:
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w22399/w22399.pdf

You can see on the first page, it specifically states



This is incredibly important, because this is treated a lot more casually than a scientific study. In science peer review is everything. A single scientist could be funded by Tobacco and draw the conclusion that there's no link between second hand smoking and heart disease. That doesn't mean that the data is accurate, or that the data has been interpreted correctly by the author. Peer review is a required in scientific studies and demands that professionals who are all experts in their respective fields do their best to ensure that the study done is valid and credible. Science is only considered valid when there is a consensus among scientists that the study can produce repeatable results

Further, this paper seems to indicate that from these 10 police departments, white people are more likely to be shot in "police-civilian interactions in which the use of lethal force may have been justifiable by law"

Which is interesting, but kind of misses the point. The vast majority of the instances that people are outraged over, such as Breonna Taylor, Tamir Rice, etc. are instances of black people being killed in police-civilian interactions where use of lethal force is NOT justifiable by law

So it is an interesting finding, and I'd genuinely like to know if the same results could be replicated on a larger scale than 10 police departments. But it's also looking at a different topic, and does not have enough scientific backing for anyone to claim that

Which is not what the findings have concluded at all.

Let's say that white people ARE more likely to get shot by a police officer than a black person in an interaction that justifies lethal force (which is what the study claims).

If black people get profiled and pulled over a disproportionate number of times, they can still be killed more often

For example, if police shoot 15% of white people they encounter and they encounter 5,000 white people then that means they shot 750 white people

If police only shoot 10% of black people, but they pull over 10,000 black people then that means they shot 1,000 black people

So if you want to be precise, you'd need to say something more along the lines of "There's an working paper published in an economics journal that shows evidence that in an encounter that justifies lethal force, white people are more likely to be shot than black people"

but stating "It's a fact that white people are actually more likely to be killed by police than black people" is wrong for all 5 of the reasons I've posted above

Interesting read. Thanks

[Bomb Bard]

Pussies

[Amen]

There have been studies done about policing and it turns out white people are actually more likely to be killed by police than black people, even adjusting for % of the population. With all the high profile black killings though this fact seems lost on America. However, the same study also found that blacks are more likely to be "roughed up" by cops than whites.

Lmao clearly you don’t know how to read data. This is all the way wrong. Whites are 100% not more likely to be killed. Based off the data, minorities are and unfortunately the greater percentage of those minorities are “black” people.

[kungfugrip]

Lmao clearly you don’t know how to read data. This is all the way wrong. Whites are 100% not more likely to be killed. Based off the data, minorities are and unfortunately the greater percentage of those minorities are “black” people.

White people are not more likely to be killed by police than Black people? Are you really, really sure about that?

[Amen]

Yea, I’m pretty sure about that. And the only reason why MORE white people are killed is because they make up of like 66% of the population vs the small percentage that make up the “blacks”.

It’s a fact, you racist faggots.

[Ghost1]

Hm where's that thread where amen states that the reason black and brown people are in the lower class population in the United States is due to being inherently less intelligent and preternaturally inclined to make poor choices?

[Answer]

Hm where's that thread where amen states that the reason black and brown people are in the lower class population in the United States is due to being inherently less intelligent and preternaturally inclined to make poor choices?

There’s only one?

[uh-oh]

The vast majority of the instances that people are outraged over, such as Breonna Taylor, Tamir Rice, etc. are instances of black people being killed in police-civilian interactions where use of lethal force is NOT justifiable by law



wut

[Ouch]

He should’ve got more.. and my guess is he’ll do like 12 on good behavior, or less.

Hell have to do some hard segregated time… no pun intended though. He’d never be allowed in general population, hell just be with child molesters and other weirdos that will accept anyone.


But yeah… I think he should’ve got more.

[UPN Zuch]

He should’ve got more.. and my guess is he’ll do like 12 on good behavior, or less.

Hell have to do some hard segregated time… no pun intended though. He’d never be allowed in general population, hell just be with child molesters and other weirdos that will accept anyone.


But yeah… I think he should’ve got more.

You’re pretty on point here, except for the child molester part. He will be around nobody. Literal solitary confinement. Anything else is a death sentence.

[Bomb Bard]

You guys work there?

[Amen]

Hm where's that thread where amen states that the reason black and brown people are in the lower class population in the United States is due to being inherently less intelligent and preternaturally inclined to make poor choices?

Find it.

[Ghost1]

U really are a weird individual. Literally pretending you didn't rant and rave those sentiments at length on this site? Just incredible the level of delusion one would need to achieve

[Ouch]

Nigga look I did a little over 4 years.. I know the thing since I was a kid…

They beat me really bad… I’m not tripping if I was white black, yellow, Mexican… they’d do all that….

The issue is that… well as I see of it

[Ghost1]

Right yea perfectly timed interjection

[Ouch]

Never fucked with winte people but I don’t have anything it……nigga I had to come up on the street to duck with rican

[Ouch]

Blog mouth wha u

[Blue Bayou]

Hope someone kneels on Ouchs neck

[Ouch]

Nah ya worried kung and whatever… I’ll eat him a live..wi or lose

Your triimt

[Barcotic]

Choose bed instead of more drugs

[Ouch]

LOL Barc im pretty sure I got .... niggas say you are something and I don't know


But regardless man I think he deserves more than what he got.

[Amen]

U really are a weird individual. Literally pretending you didn't rant and rave those sentiments at length on this site? Just incredible the level of delusion one would need to achieve

I did to the opposite point you are trying to make.

Not all cops are bad and there are MORE GOOD COPS than BAD. Also, they have a difficult job to do. Those were points I’ve argued.

I’ve also stated in most situations, it’s the minorities who put themselves in these types of situations. Especially when dealing with cowards. Most cops are just cowards who’ve been empowered by the badge and gun.

[UPN Zuch]

Go Pistons

[Amen]

I actually went into the thread myself looking for this Amen quote and did not find anything of the sort. Basically just what he said above.

Word. Bags is just a hating piece of dog shit.

[Ghost1]

Literally took me 30 second search

Key word black people user amen

Was 2 pages of threads

Just grabbed one

Why anyone questions me or ever thinks amen is capable of being a human being or having any genuine understanding of himself....I'll never know

Every day I hope u die

Here's the thread

Fucking real life idiot

http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=126999&highlight=Black+people&page=2

[Ghost1]

Lol that threads incredible

[Bomb Bard]

Fuckin right Amen feel it faggot. Also bags clean your house you piece of shit. Your house is what we imagine ouch lives in dirt fuck

[Fracture]

damn bombard going scorched earth i see

[UPN Zuch]

I searched poor choices. Not black people. That thread didn’t come up for me.

[Fracture]

amen thats a pretty incriminating thread roflz

[Answer]

Of all the ridiculous and outrageous things amen said in that thread, I think the top one is his claim that if black people didn’t exist, nick james would be a lawyer

[UPN Zuch]

How do I delete a comment in this thread?

[Bomb Bard]

damn bombard going scorched earth i see

Woke up throwing daggers today. You in the safe zone pal

[Amen]

Literally took me 30 second search

Key word black people user amen

Was 2 pages of threads

Just grabbed one

Why anyone questions me or ever thinks amen is capable of being a human being or having any genuine understanding of himself....I'll never know

Every day I hope u die

Here's the thread

Fucking real life idiot

http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=126999&highlight=Black+people&page=2

Lol that was a thread about black people and their influence on white people. I’ll have to read further if there are any discussions about racism & law enforcement.

Lol you hope I die everyday? Hahaha. That’s pretty sad and you’re a dirty miserable fuck, so it doesn’t surprise me at all.

[Amen]

Yea… that’s a race thread, lol. Find a law enforcement one, faggot.

You will find my stand in which is what I posted in here.

[Fracture]

Lol that part where you callin people racist faggots tho


Yikes

[Amen]

Lol racist recognize racists.

[Ghost1]

U blamed mass incarceration on the blacks on like page 8 or 9 does that count?

[Amen]

No.

It’s a documented fact.

[Ghost1]

Wait wat lol

[Amen]

Documented fact there are more black people in the US prison system vs any other ethnic background.

While you could argue unequal treatment, sure I’d agree for some cases but definitely not all.

[Ouch]

Nigga all I know know is no vaccine. I got one.. my wife one my daughter got one and we aren’t growing antlers and loving states island

[Answer]

Documented fact there are more black people in the US prison system vs any other ethnic background.

While you could argue unequal treatment, sure I’d agree for some cases but definitely not all.

White people committed genocide against the entire Native American race, and surprisingly few of them went to jail

White people enslaved Africans for over 200 years, 2 million of them died before even reaching land. They whipped them, broke up their families, and in some cases raped the women and sold their own children into slavery

Surprisingly few of them went to jail

It’s crazy how the people in the prison system aren’t the people who control the prison system

[Ouch]

I was in prison for 4.5 years or so

When I first went to jail it was a lot of Indians and I’m a nigger from ny in a place In Michigan… the Indians who see with didn’t give a fuck about their sqaw….

[Ouch]

The Indians didn’t treat there women well

[Bomb Bard]

Alcohol doesn’t make you this retarded^^^

[Fracture]

Here goes ouch trying to make another thread about him

[Ghost1]

So..... Amen...your position is that the reason minorities are disproportionately victims of police brutality is....what again...?

[Pharaohs Army]

So..... Amen...your position is that the reason minorities are disproportionately victims of police brutality is....what again...?

Well part of it could be that they inhabit higher-crime neighborhoods and thus have far more interactions with the police.

[Amen]

So..... Amen...your position is that the reason minorities are disproportionately victims of police brutality is....what again...?

They don’t follow instructions. So EGO’s from both sides causes a bad reaction and a situation in which results in physical harm sometimes death. Especially when the dude behind the badge and gun is a coward.

[Ghost1]

So blacks share an equal amount of responsibility with the police officers for the police brutality that they suffer is your position?

What would you attribute to the lopsided victimization of blacks that you adamantly defended with your statistical prowess?

You stated they aren't following instructions correctly....are other races better at following instructions?

[Destroyer]

the chinese are better at following instructions written in chinese

[Amen]

Yes other ethnic backgrounds are much better.

And if you think all of the police brutality “victims” are innocent, you’re not as educated as you make yourself out to be.

George Floyd was killed, there is no debate there. The majority of other instances - with the exception of Brianna Taylor could be argued.

[Cred]

Lmaooo

[Ghost1]

So.... When you say equally responsible....you meant it's the black people's fault....minus george floyd and of course giving exception to briona taylor

[Ghost1]

Also...out of curiosity.... Would you qualify not complying with police instructions as a poor choice?

[Orc]

So.... When you say equally responsible....you meant it's the black people's fault....minus george floyd and of course giving exception to briona taylor

Hahahahahaha

[Hush]

Nut ass niggas

[Amen]

Also...out of curiosity.... Would you qualify not complying with police instructions as a poor choice?

Pretty sure you know the answer to your question, Anthony.

[kungfugrip]

Documented fact there are more black people in the US prison system vs any other ethnic background.

While you could argue unequal treatment, sure I’d agree for some cases but definitely not all.

Documented fact black people commit a disproportiante amount of violent crime than the rest of the population.

If u want to stop being profiled, stop being the heavyweight champions of crime.

[kungfugrip]

White people committed genocide against the entire Native American race, and surprisingly few of them went to jail

White people enslaved Africans for over 200 years, 2 million of them died before even reaching land. They whipped them, broke up their families, and in some cases raped the women and sold their own children into slavery

Surprisingly few of them went to jail

It’s crazy how the people in the prison system aren’t the people who control the prison system

Black people attempted colonization as well, you just sucked at it.

White people didnt start the slave trade, you were sold into that by other Africans. White people did end slavery though, at the expense of a quarter million white casualties. So, you're welcome.

[kungfugrip]

You were put into indentured servitude in the most gentlemanly way possible, by your own people. You had it the easiest. You don't care about anyone else historically do you? You know nothing about the genocide and brutal enslavement of others, only that you had to pick cotton for 60 years, and now you're free to achieve anything, yet you choose to bitch about your historically easy oppression.

You're soft. Fuck you.

[kungfugrip]

Slavery exists right now, but you don't care because it's not white people perpetrating it. You don't care about ending slavery, you just don't like white people because that's what's trendy in 2021

[kungfugrip]

You're a bitch

[kungfugrip]

Learn your fucking history, faggot

[Ghost1]

I for one welcome our supreme canadian hardship overlord

U think it's easy being a rich white 40yr old man child living off the fumes of an overated text battling career

WELL DO YOU FUCKING THINK ITS FUCKING JEASY FUCKING FGAOT

[Ghost1]

Now I don't want to say anything too wildly out of pocket.....but could it be......that since even the two most racist, out of touch weirdos in this thread still happen to agree that george floyd was murdered as a victim of police brutality....now I may be just grasping at straws here...........but just maybe.....is it possible.....that there is a lack of exposure?

[Fracture]

R u trying to imply that police brutality isn't usually caught on camera? Fuck outta here. George floyd and briona taylor the only times

[kungfugrip]

Now I don't want to say anything too wildly out of pocket.....but could it be......that since even the two most racist, out of touch weirdos in this thread still happen to agree that george floyd was murdered as a victim of police brutality....now I may be just grasping at straws here...........but just maybe.....is it possible.....that there is a lack of exposure?

Floyd was clearly murdered and i hate police, homeboy should get the death penalty imo

[kungfugrip]

I for one welcome our supreme canadian hardship overlord

U think it's easy being a rich white 40yr old man child living off the fumes of an overated text battling career

WELL DO YOU FUCKING THINK ITS FUCKING JEASY FUCKING FGAOT
If you were in a room with 5 black guys and one white guy, who would you eventually assault?

Black people are now the gold standard of virtue lmao. Wow.

[Ghost1]

Am I a police officer?

[kungfugrip]

Now I don't want to say anything too wildly out of pocket.....but could it be......that since even the two most racist, out of touch weirdos in this thread still happen to agree that george floyd was murdered as a victim of police brutality....now I may be just grasping at straws here...........but just maybe.....is it possible.....that there is a lack of exposure?
We will never achieve equality because you immediately took what i said as an insult, as logical as it may be. You are the obstacle to equality, not me.

You will never take what i say as a peer, you will always view me as an enemy, because im not black.

[Ghost1]

Also I'm a little confused about this scenario lol what in david lamas creation is going on on this room that would lead to an inevitable assault? I'm going to need a little more context here before I can make a reasonable choice

[Ghost1]

As a black man in america I resent your sentiments

[kungfugrip]

So.... When you say equally responsible....you meant it's the black people's fault....minus george floyd and of course giving exception to briona taylor

You said this earlier and suddenly now you're confused?

Ill keep George Floyd in my thoughts and prayers because he encountered a piece of shit cop that ended his life.

[kungfugrip]

As a black man in america I resent your sentiments

As a black man in america you'd resent anything i had to say, because I'm white.

[Ghost1]

You said this earlier and suddenly now you're confused?

Ill keep George Floyd in my thoughts and prayers because he encountered a piece of shit cop that ended his life.

This is a clear differentiation from amens initial statement...which is what it is in regards to

Lay back drug addict...your thoughts on this matter are of little concern

[kungfugrip]

You went personal, which means you ran out of logical arguments.

God bless dude, thanks for proving my point

[Ghost1]

The logic was in the first sentence. The personal quip was to help u understand why you're out of your depth here but to no avail I see.

[Ghost1]

We got it kung...the bad apple theory couple w black people get over it....truly complex and moving thoughts from a white foreigner with little to no experience or exposure to the subject at hand.

[kungfugrip]

Dial it back bro, you're going to hard on a simple statement. Im sure it's somehow a white man's fault that you failed, but just chill.

[Fracture]

Bags is albino black

[kungfugrip]

My favourite argument is 'youre not black so you can't have an opinion' yeah i wasn't in World War 2 either but i know what happened

[Ghost1]

Bags is albino black

He don't know my plight

[kungfugrip]

He don't know my plight

I know that you enjoy having an excuse for your failure.

[kungfugrip]

That was bad, sorry dude. I apologize.

[Ghost1]

Kung you and I are cool fam I consider us close

[kungfugrip]

I mean no harm i only want no nonsense discussions

[Fracture]

You both are high level boarding dirtbags that look up to frac

[Ghost1]

So let's rewind .... Do you believe that systemic racism exists in america

[Jim Blaze]

Stfu moist1 blacks should stop being criminals if they don't enjoy cops shooting them

[Bishop]

Kung bodied this thread

[kungfugrip]

So let's rewind .... Do you believe that systemic racism exists in america

Theres no way on planet earth that when a black man is qualified for a job that they could ever turn that down. It bothers me that people try to tell black people that the world is against them when they can quite literally achieve anything they want

[Amen]

As a black man in america I resent your sentiments

Lmfaooooooo

[Ghost1]

Jesus....ok let's rewind further I guess

Do you understand what systemic racism is?

[kungfugrip]

So let's rewind .... Do you believe that systemic racism exists in america

I believe it exists and i believe it exists for a reason.

Systemic racism is the black community's fault.

Stop teaching young black children that the world wants to kill them, because itndoesnt. You're raising a generation of black children with a fuck the world attitude

Nobody on earth is as racist as you think they are, we all want to see young blacks succeed, but you fight it every step of the way

[kungfugrip]

Yeah, systemic racism is the excuse the black community uses to underachieve

[Ghost1]

I don't feel comfortable accepting that definition as recognition of your understanding

[kungfugrip]

I dont feel comfortable getting robbed in a majority black neighbourhood while everyone on earth paints me as the aggressor, but that's life bro

[Fracture]

Black frac u trying to weigh in or what?

[kungfugrip]

Black Frac is a lawyer now, bitching about inequality