View Full Version : I made an album available on floppy disk
Sharp
08-24-2021, 08:24 PM
https://notmusic.bandcamp.com/album/floppy
Call me a bitch now
Thanks
Sharp
08-24-2021, 09:37 PM
Thanks
Answer
08-24-2021, 10:24 PM
I perused a few of the beats and it sounds dope, has a cool trippy mellow vibe to it. I’ll peep more in depth when I get a chance to dedicate time to a full listen. Ngl I don’t understand the whole floppy angle but keep at it
Master Rock
08-24-2021, 11:26 PM
This is so cool... I'm geeking out.
Love this. Last track especially
Sharp
08-25-2021, 09:31 AM
I perused a few of the beats and it sounds dope, has a cool trippy mellow vibe to it. I’ll peep more in depth when I get a chance to dedicate time to a full listen. Ngl I don’t understand the whole floppy angle but keep at it
Gratsi. Did you read the description there? That attempts to explain why putting this on a floppy was the end goal. It's gimmicky, but I swear there was a point
This is so cool... I'm geeking out.
Appreciate it boss
Love this. Last track especially
Thanks, that one definitely means the most to me.
Hopefully you or swerve can make a concept out of this if you need it
Answer
08-25-2021, 11:24 AM
peeped the whole thing, first one's my fav. It's definitely something I can imagine an indie/backpack rapper doing something introspective over. I do feel like I can tell a difference in the floppy version on some of them, especially with the drums on the first one. The last one definitely sounds the same in both to me. Either way, it definitely has those retro zelda snes music vibes but sounds like better quality to me
not really sure what you mean by mixing the tracks to emulate compression though. How do you do this? Is it a VST/plugin that adds lofi effects to it? I know it affects the overall quality of the instrument, but I've never considered whether or not it actually reduces/compresses the file size of the overall project unless its just saved at a lower compression rate
Sharp
08-25-2021, 11:50 AM
peeped the whole thing, first one's my fav. It's definitely something I can imagine an indie/backpack rapper doing something introspective over. I do feel like I can tell a difference in the floppy version on some of them, especially with the drums on the first one. The last one definitely sounds the same in both to me. Either way, it definitely has those retro zelda snes music vibes but sounds like better quality to me
not really sure what you mean by mixing the tracks to emulate compression though. How do you do this? Is it a VST/plugin that adds lofi effects to it? I know it affects the overall quality of the instrument, but I've never considered whether or not it actually reduces/compresses the file size of the overall project unless its just saved at a lower compression rate
Appreciate it my guy
There are dedicated sound plug-ins for this (I think I used mda degrade a few times) but most of it is good old fashioned EQ and bandpass. It doesn't actually reduce the size of the file (the data is still there in a sense) but it sounds like you did.
The second half is all actually compressed, just by using audacity to export an mp3 with absurdly low sampling rate. Knowing how that sort of file sounded informed the mixing in the first half, so it kind of cut out what was already going to be cut in some cases.
Incredible
08-25-2021, 04:49 PM
Yo I listened to all of them, nice chill vibes. Hopefully this isn't a stupid question but just curious as to why if you compressed the songs why didn't it make them shorter? Original and floppy cut are the same length. Well I guess you said the size didn't get reduced. Did I just answer my own question? Lol
Answer
08-25-2021, 05:01 PM
Yo I listened to all of them, nice chill vibes. Hopefully this isn't a stupid question but just curious as to why if you compressed the songs why didn't it make them shorter? Original and floppy cut are the same length. Well I guess you said the size didn't get reduced. Did I just answer my own question? Lol
Any file in your computer is just a bunch of 1's and 0's. Say you had a song, and the file looked something like this
111000101010101111100000101010101010101010101
I could change one small part of the file contents and if it's something really small, you probably can't even hear the difference between the one above and the one below
111000101010101111100000101010101010101010100
there are mathematic ways to determine which of the 1's and 0's have the least amount of impact on the song itself, and that's essentially what compression is. So in essence, your song might be reduced to something like
1110001010
and you may or may not even be able to tell a difference. of course if you compress it too much it becomes noticeable.
WAV files are really big, sometimes 100 mb or so for a song, because they contain lots of information (lot's of 1's and 0's) whereas MP3 files are compressed and much smaller (about 3-4 mb for the same song).
But that has no impact on the length of the song itself. It's just removing a little bit of the quality from every sound you hear
Incredible
08-25-2021, 05:06 PM
Oh compressed like that, I see duh. Nice explanation. Explained fully. Still cool beats, was sitting here freestyling to all of them.
Gratsi. Did you read the description there? That attempts to explain why putting this on a floppy was the end goal. It's gimmicky, but I swear there was a point
Appreciate it boss
Thanks, that one definitely means the most to me.
Hopefully you or swerve can make a concept out of this if you need it
If ur after a straight shooter this man can’t
Swerve seen more releases from 2 inch floppies than sharps band camp
Sharp
08-25-2021, 10:14 PM
Oh compressed like that, I see duh. Nice explanation. Explained fully. Still cool beats, was sitting here freestyling to all of them.
appreciate the listen. You weren't off with time, too, shorter songs = smaller file size. The finished product had some tracks get shortened to make it all fit on the floppy
just a really specific goal for the piece
If ur after a straight shooter this man can’t
Swerve seen more releases from 2 inch floppies than sharps band camp
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NoetiC
08-25-2021, 10:22 PM
first of all... you a bitch
second... dope as fuck concept. even though 99.9% of people wont even be able to insert the disk into anything to listen to it, i applaud the effort of actually doing this.
Sharp
08-26-2021, 08:22 AM
first of all... you a bitch
Thank you
second... dope as fuck concept. even though 99.9% of people wont even be able to insert the disk into anything to listen to it, i applaud the effort of actually doing this.
Thanks. The piece was really personal to me and this felt like giving it a really fitting treatment. There's definitely a lot to be said about no one being able to listen lol, but it was cheap and not a huge investment of time so it's more for me
Thanks for taking the time to look at and read through it
I don't understand this..
let me look at it, dope idea though really good idea... not sure how you'd execute it though
niece buyt me3 ripping you son
I really feel sorry for Ouch.
Sharp
08-27-2021, 05:29 PM
Dope
Appreciate it bro
let me look at it, dope idea though really good idea... not sure how you'd execute it though
niece buyt me3 ripping you son
Thanks, execution was easy once I bought the shit
Not sure what you mean by the last part
Cereal
08-27-2021, 05:48 PM
very melodic and ambient
Appreciate it bro
Thanks, execution was easy once I bought the shit
Not sure what you mean by the last part
its a really cool idea i'm just saying.. as a small promotional thing... A) where do you buy that shit with B) where do you think your fans are going to buy it from.
cool idea though
Sharp
08-28-2021, 11:41 PM
very melodic and ambient
Appreciate the listen
its a really cool idea i'm just saying.. as a small promotional thing... A) where do you buy that shit with B) where do you think your fans are going to buy it from.
cool idea though
Got you, definitely valid questions ;
A) I bought an external floppy disk to USB reader (<$20) and a lot of 100 disks cost $10+ shipping. The goal of the piece was to have a version that could fit on a floppy disk, so I spent another 20 on custom printed stickers to have a 'physical release'. It's a gimmick, but the easiest way to get the point of the piece across; This is a case of the medium carrying the message
B) I don't have fans, just friends who do music. Some more experimental artist friends do other physical releases when the medium suits their piece (my one friend did a series on cassette tapes) so we just kind of pass them around to one another. The point of making them available was a combination of being cost efficient (1 custom sticker and floppy disk really isn't much cheaper than 25) and a way for a listener to call my bluff on the floppy cut - don't believe it can all fit under 1.4mb? Here you go - but really isn't a business move
Tldr I'm indulging the artist (faggot) in me because it's not thsy expensive
UPN Zuch
08-29-2021, 02:35 AM
Got you, definitely valid questions ;
A) I bought an external floppy disk to USB reader (<$20) and a lot of 100 disks cost $10+ shipping. The goal of the piece was to have a version that could fit on a floppy disk, so I spent another 20 on custom printed stickers to have a 'physical release'. It's a gimmick, but the easiest way to get the point of the piece across; This is a case of the medium carrying the message
B) I don't have fans, just friends who do music. Some more experimental artist friends do other physical releases when the medium suits their piece (my one friend did a series on cassette tapes) so we just kind of pass them around to one another. The point of making them available was a combination of being cost efficient (1 custom sticker and floppy disk really isn't much cheaper than 25) and a way for a listener to call my bluff on the floppy cut - don't believe it can all fit under 1.4mb? Here you go - but really isn't a business move
Tldr I'm indulging the artist (faggot) in me because it's not thsy expensive[/QUOTE]
You expect a full-blown down-syndrome adult to be able to read this amount of words, let alone comprehend them?
Sharp
08-29-2021, 08:12 AM
Got you, definitely valid questions ;
A) I bought an external floppy disk to USB reader (<$20) and a lot of 100 disks cost $10+ shipping. The goal of the piece was to have a version that could fit on a floppy disk, so I spent another 20 on custom printed stickers to have a 'physical release'. It's a gimmick, but the easiest way to get the point of the piece across; This is a case of the medium carrying the message
B) I don't have fans, just friends who do music. Some more experimental artist friends do other physical releases when the medium suits their piece (my one friend did a series on cassette tapes) so we just kind of pass them around to one another. The point of making them available was a combination of being cost efficient (1 custom sticker and floppy disk really isn't much cheaper than 25) and a way for a listener to call my bluff on the floppy cut - don't believe it can all fit under 1.4mb? Here you go - but really isn't a business move
Tldr I'm indulging the artist (faggot) in me because it's not thsy expensive
You expect a full-blown down-syndrome adult to be able to read this amount of words, let alone comprehend them?[/QUOTE]
When he's sober, maybe
Maybe I'm just happy to talk about my ART here
thats cool man... Zucho or whatever is just trolling me.. all I was asking is how in the hell you could make it be like that ... anyway im not going to buy your floppy disk but if you post some shit I can listen to I might give you 10$ if I like it
to me though, its a cool idea if you already have a nerdy fan base, maybe a lot of them don't like that weird shit... but you've got a strong core of people who do...
so release a weird ass floppy disk thing... other than that... nahh. and post ya music man
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