UFC 266: Volkanovski vs. Ortega

[Elfo]

Main Card

Alexander Volkanovski (c) vs. Brian Ortega
Valentina Shevchenko (c) vs. Lauren Murphy
Robbie Lawler vs. Nick Diaz II
Curtis Blaydes vs. Jairzinho Rozenstruik
Jessica Andrade vs. Cynthia Calvillo

Volkanovski vs. Ortega will be for the UFC Featherweight Championship
Shevchenko vs. Murphy will be for the UFC Women’s Flyweight Championship

Who y’all got? My predictions as of now would be

Alexander Volkanovski (c) vs. Brian Ortega
Valentina Shevchenko (c) vs. Lauren Murphy
Robbie Lawler vs. Nick Diaz 2
Curtis Blaydes vs. Jairzinho Rozenstruik
Jessica Andrade vs. Cynthia Calvillo

[Elfo]

No problem my guy

[Ouch]

I Will beat the shit out of all of them... and then Connor i'll bitch slap him as an after thought

[Elfo]

Conor ass now anyways

[Ouch]

I used to follow MMA back in the day.. but almost of these names are foreign to me

[Elfo]

You might at least recognize Nick Diaz and Robbie Lawler, their first fight was all the way back at UFC 47 in 2004 lol

[Ouch]

what does Khabib do now.. and for real is no heavyweights since like siva and brok lesnar type shit

[Ouch]

I love nick and nate diaz.. ove robbie lawlyer too

[Elfo]

what does Khabib do now.. and for real is no heavyweights since like siva and brok lesnar type shit

Khabib retired and Silva was a middleweight when he fought in UFC not heavy


Unless you mean Thiago Silva, I don’t think of him when I hear Silva regarding MMA

[Ouch]

check this funny thing out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8npivigmU

[Ouch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlBfr609syk

[Ouch]

i've had 2 pro fight and lost them both.. but I really had no chance in either and didn't really know about thiem. I've postend on here avout this, some big indian from minnesota.. and he's the big dog... goes all around this northern shit a friend I know just said yo its not a big deal no one will be here fight him


well I fought him and I lost and a lot of people where there... like PTA moms and shit

[Ouch]

So I lost but it was literally my friend... or.. not friend, someone who I know put it on...


its at like the laocal play house or whatever a few towns a way, they have 3 octogons going at the same time for little kids all the way up to adults well, the guy I fought I spoke to him and his mom in the little room before it, they were from some reservation in Minnesota but he traveled around as an actual fighter... and I can fight... but I don't travel around as a fighter... so it didn't work out to well for me

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

ouch hijacks another thread

i got jazri, nick, volk...thought im still undecided about volk/ortega

i dont watch women fight

[Amen]

Actually read Ouch’s response for the 1st time and LOL.




Amazing.

[Bomb Bard]

No problem my guy

Got the same predictions but Andrade and cythia could be sneaky close or an absolute wash

[UPN Zuch]

You idiots conversing with Ouch like you won’t fucking regret it later

[Elfo]

Got the same predictions but Andrade and cythia could be sneaky close or an absolute wash

I feel like it will be close as well, I have Andrade edging it though even tho Cynthia might be a little fresher having not fought since last year but I feel like Andrade is going to try and bounce back from that Shevchenko mauling. Cavillo is nice but her biggest win is over like Jessica Eye and lost to someone Andrade recently beat. But that’s prolly the least interesting fight on the card for me but still should be decent

ouch hijacks another thread

i got jazri, nick, volk...thought im still undecided about volk/ortega

i dont watch women fight

I usually don’t either but Shevchenko always seems to have interesting fights imo

You idiots conversing with Ouch like you won’t fucking regret it later

I said a couple things to him and had to nope out lol

[Bomb Bard]

The chicks fuck each other up

[Witty]

I used to think I was good at crashing a thread in to a fucking wall and then Ouch came along.

Difference is I meant to do it.

[Amen]

You idiots conversing with Ouch like you won’t fucking regret it later

You do it often.

Seems you haven’t regretted it at all.

[Witty]

Shut up Amen

[Amen]

Love you.

[Witty]

God dammit I love you too, you piece of shit.

[kungfugrip]

That weight class is awful yuck

[Elfo]

That weight class is awful yuck

Which one

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

yo

you think ortega stops volk?

[Elfo]

I’m not an MMA expert by any means so this is just from my observation but I feel like if Ortega doesn’t get caught with too many big hits early and can somehow get into a favorable position on the ground by round 2 or early round 3 and look for a submission I can see him taking it here. The only thing is Volk doesn’t go down too often and is definitely durable for 5 round fights, Ortega last went 5 with Zombie and lost to Max while Volk went the distance twice against Max and won both. How I can picture the fight going is either Volk by KO/TKO in the 1st/2nd or Ortega via Submission, if I were to guess a choke of some sort in the 2nd or 3rd round. Again I don’t think Volk goes down easy so it’s gonna be tough but I think Ortega might be able to squeeze it out. He’s KO’d some good fighters in his career but none on Volk’s level but it shows he has good hands as well as ground game. If it ends up going to decision I think Volk takes it. My bad for the damn paragraph

[Bobby D]

I think unless ortega can manage that pressure or get a gullotine, volk will be piecing him up for most the rounds, as simply put hes the only one that can even be close to keeping up to max. I do think ortega does have a good chance though, and I dont like Volk as the champ as max is the peoples champ, plus he def never lost that rematch

[Eŋg]

ortega ain't choking this no neck having ass brick shithouse volk

i ain't seen ortega's last fight though because watching zombie getting dismantled will probably break my heart - i hear he looked vastly improved with his striking though

ortega seems to carry a lot of intangibles with him: unorthodox striking, sniper jiu jitsu, tremendous durability and above all a will to win even late into a fight he is losing - he has done this like half dozen times - but hasn't needed it in his last two victories.

volk though, man. say what you will about his two fights with max (where he convincingly won the first, and the second was splitting hairs) to be able to go 50 minutes with holloway in what is essentially a kickboxing bout, when you're the smaller striker whose base isn't really striking -- that's fucking crazy. even if max dropped him twice in the rematch, just says that much more about his doggedness.

i suspect volk will win a decision, and if ortega were to win it would not be by points, but my bet is the former.

i've got nick and rozenstruick also.

[Bobby D]

I've got Nick too, rozenstruick looked good against everyone except gane and ngannou, so unsure on him at the moment

yeah dont watch the zombie fight, he wasnt the same zombie I've seen, first signs of old age starting to show and slowing down, he wasnt as evsive or landing as many shots, ortega showed huge improvement since his beating from max

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

yeah...i can see ortega ko'n volk more than snatching his neck - plus volks chin has been cracked before - his recovery is stellar as fuck tho.

i can see him catchin an arm, or even knee bar or someshit tho.

iunno - i'm 50/50 on that fight rn - prolly stay that way.


yeah dont watch the zombie fight, he wasnt the same zombie I've seen

ortegas angles caught zombie off the whole fight who just stayed too predictable & on straight lines - but he done what zombie does. tega never stayed planted for zombies ploddy footwork to catch up with.

he's also never been too evasive.

& i love zombie...i mean who dont.



i ain't seen ortega's last fight though because watching zombie getting dismantled will probably break my heart - i hear he looked vastly improved with his striking though



watch it - out of love for the art.

zombies the man. & he's no less of one after gettin smoked by ortega in my eyes. you knoww?

i aint exactly enjoy watching zombie get worked (plus i bet on bro lol) but on the flip - this was ortegas first fight since the max schooling - & it was dope to see tegas improvements.

[Bobby D]

he's also never been too evasive.

& i love zombie...i mean who dont.



Then you must not be that big of a fan, most of zombies KO's, came from him slipping a shot and dropping the other guy.

I get hes famous for coming forward and taking shots, but that didnt work against ortega and his age showed without doubt, his 4 years out for service also didnt help imo, rest of the division caught up

[evaD]

Ortega by decision
Blaydes
Andrade
Diaz
Shevchenko
Marlon (good fight for undercard!)
Hooker

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

Then you must not be that big of a fan, most of zombies KO's, came from him slipping a shot and dropping the other guy.

I get hes famous for coming forward and taking shots, but that didnt work against ortega and his age showed without doubt, his 4 years out for service also didnt help imo, rest of the division caught up

the two points are not mutually exclusive.

he's good at slipping one shot & countering.

that does not consitute him being evasive.

his footworks ploddy. he rarely, if ever, angles off after he throws. & he's highly aggresive.

to put it simply - he's eaten a whole lotta shots in his career - before & after his hiatus - thats not something you say of an evasive fighter.

kindly chill with that "im a bigger fan" shit

[Bobby D]

the two points are not mutually exclusive.

he's good at slipping one shot & countering.

that does not consitute him being evasive.

his footworks ploddy. he rarely, if ever, angles off after he throws. & he's highly aggresive.

to put it simply - he's eaten a whole lotta shots in his career - before & after his hiatus - thats not something you say of an evasive fighter.

kindly chill with that "im a bigger fan" shit

bru...

being able to slip and shoot and being evasive, maybe not mutually exclusive to you, but then I am guessing you've never had a fight. to land a shot you normally have to make your opponent miss or unable to defend, whether thats overloading or setting them up or purely countering, to do any one of these you need movement, so dont come at me like you know something, when you're clearly getting defensive to hold your ground.

I was barely disagreeing with you, just your views on zombies dont give him enough credit, and also not considering his 4 year hiatus and the fact hes clearly aging right now.

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

being able to slip and shoot and being evasive, maybe not mutually exclusive to you

no. they are not mutually exlusive, period.

slipping - & countering is evasive, yes.

that in & of itself does not make a fighter evasive.

grasping the point yet?


but then I am guessing you've never had a fight.

cool. i'll play. im guessing i'd blaze you...that was fun.

do any one of these you need movement

yeah, i agree. he does move. thanks for that insight sherlock.

for the record i kept it cordial - dont project that defensive shakey ground shit youre feeling on me like a buster. own yourself.

based on your lil sideways feminine tone - you can talk to my ballbag in future.

to put it simply - he's eaten a whole lotta shots in his career - before & after his hiatus

[Bobby D]

oh so you're sensitive as well as stupid.

well sucks to be you.

In simple English you've managed to contradict yourself as well as still try and defend the same stupid point you made then contadict yourself again.

sideways tone? nah dickhead just telling you how it is, SIMPLE! you just said yourself you have to be evasive to hit a shot, if that doesnt make you evasive still, i dont know what more to say to your dumb ass, so chill on the retorts I definitely wont be reading anything else you have to say on fighting

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

hit a shot is killing me for some reason lmaooo but yea...

slipping - & countering is evasive, yes.

that in & of itself does not make a fighter evasive.

you actually, genuinely, cant grasp this shit can you?

its not a contradiction. youre just basic.

this comment was brought to you direct from my ballbag.

to put it simply - he's eaten a whole lotta shots in his career - before & after his hiatus

[kungfugrip]

Diaz beats Lawler again, gets Masvidal after, that's the fight i want to see even tho Diaz probably wins that too

[Elfo]

It’s looking like Leon might be next for Masvidal


If Leon never got rocked late in his Nate fight I think he would’ve been next for Usman

[Elfo]

Moreno vs. Figueiredo III announced today for UFC 269

[Bobby D]

Moreno vs. Figueiredo III announced today for UFC 269

should be dope - although seems figueredo struggled with weight last time

[evaD]

Leon beats Jorge snd probanly still doesn’t get a title shot


Really hope Moreno beats Figueredo again

[kungfugrip]

Leon beats Jorge snd probanly still doesn’t get a title shot


Doubt that

But my calls have been trash lately so who knows

[Elfo]

Leon beats Jorge snd probanly still doesn’t get a title shot


Really hope Moreno beats Figueredo again

If Leon beats Jorge you don’t think he’ll be fighting the winner of Covington/Usman?


And same about Moreno/Fig

[kungfugrip]

Usman has cleaned out the division

Nick Diaz is probably the only fight left

[evaD]

If Leon beats Jorge you don’t think he’ll be fighting the winner of Covington/Usman?


And same about Moreno/Fig

It’s more just a comment on him being unlucky/overlooked. His name isn’t a huge draw and his fights are rarely highlight reel stuff. I love Leon and always root for him but don’t think he beats Usman either way. Covington a prick but that’s also a huge challenge. Would like to see him at least get the shot.

[kungfugrip]

He needs like 2 more wins before he's even in the title picture. He convincingly beat Nate, but he just doesnt have the name to be even close to a title fight, that being said, nobody is beating Usman. He's approaching GSP GOAT welterweight status

[evaD]

Burns got a title shot after beating Gunnar Nelson, a 42 year old Demian Maia and 2020 Tyron Woodley. Leon has beat Nelson, Nate Diaz, Vicente Luque, Cowboy and RDA to name a few. If Usman beats Colby again who deserves next shot more? I agree he’s not a huge name for Ppv etc. but he’s earned his shot imo. I don’t see anyone beating Usman rn and he says he won’t go up a division while Izzy still champ so that isn’t happening.

[Elfo]

The only thing is Leon is on some “My next fight is going to be a champ match, nothing less” shit, so I’m wondering if shit with Masvidal is going to go down. I guess there’s a couple ways to look at it. One would be if Leon ends up fighting Masvidal and wins, I’d say he’d have to be a contender for the Usman/Covington winner. Like you said it would not a big draw PPV wise but who else would be above him in contendership? If Usman wins he would have defended 2x against Colby, 2x against Masvidal, 1x Burns. If Colby somehow wins I think it would be a refreshing title fight to see him take on Leon. The only thing I can see stopping that would be Dana giving Usman and immediate rematch for the PPV $ and it being a trilogy. But this would further be exiling Leon who we don’t even know is going to fight in a title fight. Other possibilities could be Colby and Masvidal both winning their fights, then would Masvidal get that title shot? Same if Usman and Masvidal wins. Usman has 2 title defenses already on Masvidal, so I don’t even know. Shit is hurting my brain trying to piece this shit together

[evaD]

Think outside the box. Brunson wrestles a decision against Izzy like Jan did, Usman moves up and Leon wins an interim title fight vs Tim Means

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

Leon beats Jorge snd probanly still doesn’t get a title shot


Really hope Moreno beats Figueredo again

you dont like figgy? or just really like moreno?

i dont mind who wins that, theyre both quality. moreno's one of them dudes though just a real likeable muhfucka, in & out the cage. bros always beaming.

anyway

rewatched ortega & zombie

im going volk. 55/45 though.

[kungfugrip]

Think outside the box. Brunson wrestles a decision against Izzy like Jan did, Usman moves up and Leon wins an interim title fight vs Tim Means

I dont think Usman moves up and i dont think theyll make him. He loves this recognition too much, nobody in the division can beat him and he knows it, and hes not risking that legacy to move up and get demoed

[Bobby D]

you know maincard was pretty dope saturday night pre lims were pretty slow, smith looked good. spann looked ass though.

some crazy turn arounds in a few fights, and a few beatings.

anyone else watch?

[evaD]

I thought Smith needed to retire after that beating he took from Glover that time but he looks pretty sharp. Maybe it’s just the standard of opposition though.

Nate Maness getting saved by the buzzer then finishing next rd was pretty wild. Cost me my accumulator too though

[evaD]

The 268 card gets more stacked every time I see it

[Elfo]

I have a feeling Strickland is going to destroy Rockhold

[Elfo]

It’s going down tonight boys

I’m still rockin with my OG picks of Ortega, Valentina, Diaz, Rozenstruik, and Andrade

Also from the pre-lims I got Moraes and Hooker taking their fights

[Elfo]

Jairzinho :(

[Elfo]

2/5 on my main card predictions

Ortega almost had Volk a few times there but what a war

[kungfugrip]

Great card.

[evaD]

Marlon v Dvalishvili was fucking wild, great card. Volk is a savage, those sub attempts in rd 3 had me out my seat and would’ve won my bet. I feel like Ortega tried to change position when he had that first guilotine when really he just had to hang on a bit longer. Volk said he was close to going out there. Mad fight but Ortega too tough for his own good.

[evaD]

Also Diaz v Lawler was entertaining as hell lmao at Diaz coming out with the spin kick in rd 1

[Bobby D]

Word Diaz looked slower than I hoped but good showing for 38 and 6 years out

Marlon Vs divashli was awesome as was volk Vs Ortega I was righ tho volk easily outworked him and almost lost to a guillotine I couldn't have predicted it any closer lol

[Bomb Bard]

Solid card al around

[kungfugrip]

Diaz was fighting in slow motion

That was crazy to watch, he has to hang it up

[evaD]

Yeah but Robbie wasn’t much faster. Lol Imagine nick fighting a top tier middleweight. He’s lying on his back reaching out to do the pre fight touch gloves while adesanya is having his fist raised by herb dean

[kungfugrip]

Nobody said this was a contender match by any stretch of the imagination bro lmao

[evaD]

I know I enjoyed it for what it was for sure. Nick clearly got cte though and shouldn’t be fighting

[Bobby D]

Yeah whoever cleared nick is an absolute ass