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TYSON
09-02-2013, 04:06 PM
Explain to me what's going on. Are we going to war again?

Witty
09-02-2013, 04:11 PM
Obama is waiting for approval from congress I think?

Fart
09-02-2013, 04:14 PM
obama is hitler

TYSON
09-02-2013, 04:15 PM
What for?

Witty
09-02-2013, 04:19 PM
Because he doesn't want the backlash that Bush got I guess.


Even though the situation is very different.

Sharp
09-02-2013, 05:40 PM
Obama is waiting for approval from congress I think?

this is basically how the US is



if you're asking about syria, its been growing into a civil war since the arab spring and recently their government used chemical weapons on a few hundred civilians, which are outlawed by the geneva convention. BUT, Russia is a huge ally of Syria (the two trade Russia's last military base outside of the former soviet union is in Syria), so they're basically doing all they can to stop the UN from taking any sort of action against the Assad regime. Obama is asking for permission to attack Syria, which would be going around the UN. Any upcoming debates you'll be seeing soon will probably be about that

Fart
09-02-2013, 05:45 PM
off topic. i hate that the US worries more about sand niggs than it's own problems

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 05:45 PM
we r going

weve been backin into a corner

but same thing will happen that happened in late 80s with Al Queda/Mojardeme (sp)

uh-oh
09-02-2013, 05:50 PM
off topic. i hate that the US worries more about sand niggs than it's own problems

what are our own problems?

Sharp
09-02-2013, 05:52 PM
close, but not really like the Mujahideen fighting the soviet union

we assisted rebels who were fighting an unpopular communist government, who called in soviet troops for assistance. Fighting a war on your own country vs in foreign territory is a huge difference. this is a straight civil war, where russia is diplomatic ally but not military

I'd be amazed if russia got any more involved than that after the Afghan-soviet war

God Of War
09-02-2013, 05:52 PM
what are our own problems?

chris tucker not being in the new friday , wtf is that shit about

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 05:53 PM
but Sharp Nine im speaking more outcome perpetuating not situational

and God Of War ...........what!!!! i thought he agreed.

TYSON
09-02-2013, 05:54 PM
this is basically how the US is



if you're asking about syria, its been growing into a civil war since the arab spring and recently their government used chemical weapons on a few hundred civilians, which are outlawed by the geneva convention. BUT, Russia is a huge ally of Syria (the two trade Russia's last military base outside of the former soviet union is in Syria), so they're basically doing all they can to stop the UN from taking any sort of action against the Assad regime. Obama is asking for permission to attack Syria, which would be going around the UN. Any upcoming debates you'll be seeing soon will probably be about that

Thanks for summary. And i also heard china and Russia will back Syria if attacked?

Witty
09-02-2013, 05:56 PM
off topic. i hate that the US worries more about sand niggs than it's own problems

What problems does America have that even comes close to chemical attacks on children?

TYSON
09-02-2013, 05:56 PM
chris tucker not being in the new friday , wtf is that shit about

What???

Witty
09-02-2013, 05:59 PM
Thanks for summary. And i also heard china and Russia will back Syria if attacked?

Doubt it.

I think Putin is a crazy fuck who should not have any sort of power, but I don't think he is stupid.

I dunno about China tho, they scare the fuck out of me....they are a huugggge superpower, just hiding in the shadows.

Sharp
09-02-2013, 06:00 PM
but Sharp Nine im speaking more outcome perpetuating not situational


I'm not so sure on the outcome. It's got so many more moving pieces and possible situations than Afghanistan did, especially now. And the actual rebels are more interested in liberty than religion, while Mujahideen is literally jihadist. Similar on the surface, maybe.

Thanks for summary. And i also heard china and Russia will back Syria if attacked?

diplomatically, probably. It's basically just them wanting to protect economic and political interests. Especially after the soviet occupation of afghanistan i doubt they'd be willing to send military there. The biggest conflict between major nations will be political.

God Of War
09-02-2013, 06:00 PM
FUCK NO

he said "naw we made a classic and its somethng we cant create so i wont be in anothe rone" like a faggot

shit ruined my day

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 06:04 PM
that is fucked! God Of War i thought he agreed, i was hype!!!

and there is a lot more implications than b4 bc of allies on the syria issue

but we r going, cant not at this point imo

TYSON
09-02-2013, 06:10 PM
Yea pretty fucked up what they did to them . Witty i think Artemis is saying why are we always the captain save a hoe. I rarely hear anyone else going to aid foreign countries. The thing is we seem to have to save someone every two months.

Sharp
09-02-2013, 06:12 PM
Diplomatically this is a LOT more clear cut than Afghanistan... the government has broken the Geneva convention for christ's sake.

and I can definitely see boots on the ground being debated heavily. Especially with how our presence throughout the middle east has been, its definitely not an easy sell. All we've really heard was 'military action', the only specific part was cruise missile strikes. At the same time, its clear we couldn't overthrow Assad without actual military presence. And while we're already attempting to fund, equipt and train rebels we really haven't been doing it too efficently. What I see happening is more of a coordinated effort to aid the rebels indirectly, knowing full-blown military action could end terribly.

Fart
09-02-2013, 06:13 PM
What problems does America have that even comes close to chemical attacks on children?

idk about you but im more concerned with money than the world. i couldnt care less about kids i've never met

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 06:14 PM
TYSON team america, fuck yeah!
Sharp Nine the sniper was the final straw imo - it may not b directly linked, but it still gives argument to..

TYSON
09-02-2013, 06:16 PM
Lmao@rawn m.d.

Sharp
09-02-2013, 06:18 PM
that could lean the UN into it, but with no one being hurt, no motive, and the UN in a stalemate I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

the sniper attack hasnt been attributed to anyone and if the UN DOES act it won't act on anything but significant evidence

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 06:20 PM
agreed

TYSON
09-02-2013, 06:20 PM
idk about you but im more concerned with money than the world. i couldnt care less about kids i've never met

I was with u till this^^^^

Witty
09-02-2013, 06:28 PM
Yea pretty fucked up what they did to them . Witty i think Artemis is saying why are we always the captain save a hoe. I rarely hear anyone else going to aid foreign countries. The thing is we seem to have to save someone every two months.

I usually agree that America gets involved in other countries affairs much too often, but in this case I feel like if nothing is done more innocent people will just keep dying.

I dunno if it is definitely the right thing to do, but something has to be done.

Admittedly the pictures of dead kids on the news has swayed me emotionally, which is why i would make a horrible politician, but i think some things are more important than politics.

Witty
09-02-2013, 06:29 PM
idk about you but im more concerned with money than the world. i couldnt care less about kids i've never met

Congrats on being a terrible human being.

TYSON
09-02-2013, 06:34 PM
I usually agree that America gets involved in other countries affairs much too often, but in this case I feel like if nothing is done more innocent people will just keep dying.

I dunno if it is definitely the right thing to do, but something has to be done.

Admittedly the pictures of dead kids on the news has swayed me emotionally, which is why i would make a horrible politician, but i think some things are more important than politics.

Understood.

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 06:37 PM
btw i have it on good authority that there are so many drones flying over syria atm its amazing they dont crash into each-other

Sharp
09-02-2013, 06:40 PM
You know I have to ask what that authority is or assume its Rawnmo

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 06:41 PM
well all i can elude to is ex-employment intell

and what Kansas and Mou are known for producing

Fart
09-02-2013, 06:43 PM
thanks

uh-oh
09-02-2013, 06:53 PM
idk about you but im more concerned with money than the world. i couldnt care less about kids i've never met

word, im with you yo

but its all money

it looks like it costs money to go to war, but politicians and shit have vested interests in companies that profit from war, so off bat thats a reason to go in, and control of a region is $$$ syria is in russias pocket but if we fund/participate and help a rebellion the next regime can be in ours and we get the benefits of whatever they control even if its just a safe place to wage war from onto neighboring countries

its all schemes and shit at the end of the day for $$$$

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 06:57 PM
uh=oh that was more the case with like ww1 n 2 tbh

war used to cause mass industry for the effort

now its more a flex, i mean ya there is a $$$ component, but not as much as b4

uh-oh
09-02-2013, 07:03 PM
its ALL money

ww1 and 2 boosted our economy no doubt, but they had such a giant effect because those wars were so big. the whole country was in the war effort

now its companies and corporations that have the politicians and lobbyists in there pockets. these same companies rebuild the areas we destroy and get paid to do so, these same companies build the munitions we pay for and shoot etc, so they are profiting, and on top of that the control of a region is MAJOR profits no matter how small it is. you got a sovereign nation basically paying tribute to you

i mean look in afghanistan, we got troops guarding the poppy fields, we're getting the opium from the source for pharmeceutical companies $$$$, afghanistan supplies like 90 percent of the worlds heroin, cia has been known to sell drugs to raise funds, russia has a giant heroin problem, we're supplying the heroin contributing to the degredation of there whole infrastructure from the bottom up.

meanwhile once in syria its like oh watsup you palestinians we here with israel cuz we love the jews

next thing you know reptilians are flying out of CITADELS like dragons eating kids and pulling off the veil in the introduction to the NWO

!!!

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 07:08 PM
we need to mass produce Krokadile and just kill russia

uh-oh
09-02-2013, 07:08 PM
what im reading tho is the rebels and shit are al qaeda? does that make sense? so we'd essentially be teaming up with who we've been fighting to overthrow syria

hmmm

i dont get any of this shit. i just throw my logic at it like a net with a big hole in the middle trying to grasp any shred of understanding and come up with nothing.

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 07:10 PM
lol the enemy of my enemy is my friend

thats how the Middle East works

Witty
09-02-2013, 07:12 PM
This is why I hate politics.

Focusing on money instead of the dying fucking human beings.

Aesthetic
09-02-2013, 07:39 PM
Syrian rebels admit to using the chemical weapons on civilians.
(http://www.infowars.com/rebels-admit-responsibility-for-chemical-weapons-attack/)

If we invade the country it's an act of overzealous aggression with an agenda concerning more then Assad's Regime. Russia is now bitter enemies as quoted from Putins mouth in a recent RussiaToday TV interview on The Obama Administration.

TYSON
09-02-2013, 08:04 PM
Syrian rebels admit to using the chemical weapons on civilians.
(http://www.infowars.com/rebels-admit-responsibility-for-chemical-weapons-attack/)

If we invade the country it's an act of overzealous aggression with an agenda concerning more then Assad's Regime. Russia is now bitter enemies as quoted from Putins mouth in a recent RussiaToday TV interview on The Obama Administration.

So it was an accident. Still raises alarm for them having possession of the chemical weapons but not enough to attack.

Hush
09-02-2013, 08:12 PM
Tag game vicious

TYSON
09-02-2013, 08:20 PM
Tag game vicious

Try contributing to the convo useless pussy

Sharp
09-02-2013, 08:22 PM
So it was an accident. Still raises alarm for them having possession of the chemical weapons but not enough to attack.

before you accept an alex jones article

think

how could news this big not make major news?

while this is totally plausible and I'm waiting to see what UN inspections and investigations show, its because this 'proof' is an interview with a 'father of a rebel' and 'unnamed rebel'

while totally plausible, don't jump to accepting either side just yet

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 08:26 PM
operation Genoa in this bitch

Masaii
09-02-2013, 09:01 PM
chris tucker not being in the new friday , wtf is that shit about

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23500000/What-the-fuck-random-23594698-400-344.gif

You srs?

God Of War
09-02-2013, 09:30 PM
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23500000/What-the-fuck-random-23594698-400-344.gif

You srs?

YEAH YO THEY SAID they jumped the gun by announcing it, cube says tucker can have a part and he was wrote into it but tucker said no i wont be in it i dont want to go backwards

fucking bullshit bro

Omni Potent
09-02-2013, 10:25 PM
here's the thing:

Hezbollah has no connections with Assad, Hezbollah is yet another creation of the U.S, most terrorist factions in the middle east are.

the chemical weapons attack in Syria were not from Assad. There was no chemical attack, the videos were fake and so were the reports. This was a joint Israel,U.S, and the u.s/british funded rebels smear campaign

the U.K paid for Assad to have chemical weapons. John Kerry used to be good friends with Assad

There won't be a Nato lead opposition or U.N resolution for military action in the civil conflict in Syria because of the lack of evidence regarding the chemical weapons usage. That's why France, the U.K, even Russia..an ally of Syria said they wouldn't get involved.

Assad did not want the U.N inspectors there to plant evidence, Putin told Assad to let them in there so it wouldn't look so bad but Assad was super paranoid and kept the U.N inspectors out of the alleged chemical attack sites.

you can bet your asses Obama HAS AND WILL wait for congressional delegation. He doesn't have the U.N approval, France and the UK left him high and dry, and he doesn't have the public support. Had a few other nato seat holders behind him, you can bet your asses that he wouldn't have waited for congressional approval. They are in recess until middle of next week, G20 summit is coming and he would have approved a "shot over the bow bullshit" before he went to Russia this week.

a "shot over the bow" is a clear act of war and a provocation by the U.S. Look where Iran is, that's like double talk lol. Iran already said if Syria is attacked that they will attack Israel because all the big dogs know who is "really" behind this shit

and you can also bet your asses that a false flag will get us over there with our boots on the ground or our missiles in the air.

Rawn M.D.
09-02-2013, 10:29 PM
I agree

we will invade

team america

PancakeBrah
09-02-2013, 10:32 PM
Yo, but wait. If we invade Syria, all the troops from Afghanistan and Iraq are gone. So why wouldn't Russia just invade Afghanistan and Iraq and take over now that we're gone. Then they can recruit Al-Quaeda. Russia, Irag, Afghanistan, and Al-quaeda. It won't be long until Turkey joins in. Then they go to China. And they just fucking take over America, bros. Because all our troops are in Syria. And now they can't come home.

We can't do this. It's a tactical error.

Omni Potent
09-02-2013, 10:35 PM
oh, and the elephant in the room are these "classified cables" that were partially unclassified for the public. Now if these cables were indeed leaking information leading up to the alleged attack, why no forewarning to the 1,429 people who died over there from the U.S? If we're going to condemn Assad for "allegedly" doing this, then the blood is on our hands as well if we had foreknowledge.

Nope, that dog aint gon' hunt lol

Omni Potent
09-02-2013, 10:37 PM
when we invade, we never really leave lol. Dude we're still in Vietnam, South Korea, and those wars have been over for40-60 years almost

Masaii
09-02-2013, 10:44 PM
Yo, but wait. If we invade Syria, all the troops from Afghanistan and Iraq are gone. So why wouldn't Russia just invade Afghanistan and Iraq and take over now that we're gone. Then they can recruit Al-Quaeda. Russia, Irag, Afghanistan, and Al-quaeda. It won't be long until Turkey joins in. Then they go to China. And they just fucking take over America, bros. Because all our troops are in Syria. And now they can't come home.

We can't do this. It's a tactical error.

Russia, Turkey and China back the Syrian govt. Does this mean that US troops would fight against their troops?

Like a mini WW3

Aesthetic
09-02-2013, 10:49 PM
Having made my decission as COMMANDER and CHIEF based on what im convinced is in our national security interest.

I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CARRY OUT THIS MILITARY ACTION WITHOUT SPECIFIC CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORIZATION.

-Exact words from Barrack Obama's mouth.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/31/syria-rallies_n_3849720.html?ncid=txtlnkushpmg00000037

Though he is going to wait on the congressional support; which I dont doubt will happen considering 69% of congress is part of the 1%...

Assad said he wouldn't use chemical weapons unless backed into a corner. And considering multiple news sources say rebels have taken accountability for the attack and are known terrorist's I have to say I believe evidence no matter how false it looks; unless better evidence contradicts such.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iqns5xeoYk

^Looks like blackwater insurgents lol what rebels have full gear with colored body armor while preparing a missile in a safe area...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_419321587&feature=iv&src_vid=6Iqns5xeoYk&v=3QWPJL1TFHM

Go to youtube and type in syria bombings, everything that pops up is from the attacks of terrorist organizations and Al-Queda. Not the Assad regime

PancakeBrah
09-02-2013, 10:51 PM
Russia, Turkey and China back the Syrian govt. Does this mean that US troops would fight against their troops?

Like a mini WW3

Dude, that's exactly what it means.

Masaii
09-02-2013, 10:57 PM
How does the coalition expect to defeat China AND Russia.....come on now

PancakeBrah
09-02-2013, 11:17 PM
PLUS Turkey.

uh-oh
09-02-2013, 11:55 PM
nigga we'd eat turkey on thanksgiving day

finish up russia and china before new years

AMERICA

they don't want real war. it'd be a continuation of dumb bullshit fighting through other countries for resources. if real war broke out we wouldnt be worried about rebuilding towns. about kids and children getting gassed. we'd be gassing the kids and children. our forces would roll over asia like a shockwave of death and destruction flattening everything in front of it.

i don't think people understand just how efficient our military could be if we ignored the "rules" of war. it only took one real war to kill chivalry. that was the longbow's doing. its the drones turn.

once people use nukes we're all fucked tho

whoever faced destruction will, and they would have to be returned or eradicated

but yo too many people has them. once a certain number goes off ANYWHERE in the world we're all fucked. think its like 80. and america and russia have HUNDREDS. think even india has like 100.

we could end life multiple times over



i aint getting in no bullshit resource war tho.

uh-oh
09-02-2013, 11:58 PM
when we invade, we never really leave lol. Dude we're still in Vietnam, South Korea, and those wars have been over for40-60 years almost

germany as well YO

but yo

hezbollah isnt an american creation, its a legitamate group over there that america fought against by funding the opposing political party in palestine. it failed tho and hezbollah won anyway

but yea they aint a fairy tale made up group they're real lol

Aesthetic
09-02-2013, 11:59 PM
nigga we'd eat turkey on thanksgiving day

finish up russia and china before new years

AMERICA

they don't want real war. it'd be a continuation of dumb bullshit fighting through other countries for resources. if real war broke out we wouldnt be worried about rebuilding towns. about kids and children getting gassed. we'd be gassing the kids and children. our forces would roll over asia like a shockwave of death and destruction flattening everything in front of it.

i don't think people understand just how efficient our military could be if we ignored the "rules" of war. it only took one real war to kill chivalry. that was the longbow's doing. its the drones turn.

once people use nukes we're all fucked tho

whoever faced destruction will, and they would have to be returned or eradicated

but yo too many people has them. once a certain number goes off ANYWHERE in the world we're all fucked. think its like 80. and america and russia have HUNDREDS. think even india has like 100.

we could end life multiple times over



i aint getting in no bullshit resource war tho.

Not to scare you and ruin your theory of 80 nukes ending the world....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY

uh-oh
09-03-2013, 12:08 AM
i forgot all about that underwhelming sport

what we do is we hit up the arab emirates, give them the movie alladin. it will blow there minds and we will get them to buy out the world cup contract and the world cup will be in dubai instead.

once the deal goes through we give them aladdin 2 and robin williams

PancakeBrah
09-03-2013, 12:11 AM
OR we give them the trailer for Alladin at first, just a taste. We say 'If you move the World Cup to Dubai, you get the full movie. BUT if you move the World Cup to Chicago, we give the full movie...and the sequel."

That's real geo-political negotiation. They accept, sight unseen, then we fucking drone and militarize the fuck out of a victory in WW3. All in time to eat a couple bratwursts while watching Landon Donovan and the boys pull the upset and Chicago prevents a bankruptcy. Win, win, win.

Dr Expert
09-03-2013, 12:11 AM
Qatar is also hosting the international Tour de Qatar cycling event. France loves cycling so they will intervene along with their allies Burgundy and the Austrian Minor States such as Holland and Belgium. Belgium controls over 90% of the worlds rich dark chocolate supply. This means countries dependent on luscious chocolate such as the South American communist and socialist states will also become involved. South America produces sugar for the Indo-East Indies region which means that Indonesia and Malaysia will also attack. They produce spices and massage oils - apropos and so on and so on. It is inevitable, all online geo-political experts have now reached consensus. It is only a matter of time now.