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sral
10-18-2022, 02:17 AM
in terms of wins, tourney champeds and accomplishments?

Interested to see a top five, or ten possibly, and see how that list looks.

I’m coming for you.

Amen
10-18-2022, 08:01 AM
Let’s be honest, you just want to see if you’re in that top 5, yea?


#EGO

Blue Bayou
10-18-2022, 10:46 AM
I cant speak on wins and longevity etc.. but Aero wrote the single best topical verse in NC History no question

sral
10-18-2022, 01:03 PM
Let’s be honest, you just want to see if you’re in that top 5, yea?


#EGO

In all honesty nah, I legit wasn’t even thinking of myself, I was more so thinking out of the rest of these guys.

I guess a better question then is “Who are the most decorated (excluding me)”?

I haven’t looked into it yet but some obvious names to throw out are Pent, Certain, dead man and Frank perhaps off hand.

It would be good to have a top five with their champeds and accomplishments to compare with one another.

Kill Spree
10-18-2022, 01:26 PM
I cant speak on wins and longevity etc.. but Aero wrote the single best topical verse in NC History no question

Agreed

sral
10-18-2022, 01:36 PM
Frank:

Champed
- NWL Season 2
- Art of Writing League (3x)
- Lime Green Poetry Association
- AOWL Season 6
- AOWL Season 10

sral
10-18-2022, 01:38 PM
Universe:

Champed
- Guerrilla Writing League(2x)
- GWL Picture challenge(2x)
- Art of Writing League

sral
10-18-2022, 01:39 PM
Pent uP:


Champed
- Netcees Writers League (2x)
- NWL Season 1
- Write Night I
- Art of Writing League (2x)
- Write Week IV

sral
10-18-2022, 01:41 PM
dead man

Champed
- AOWL Season 1
- Art of Writing League
- AOWL Season 4
- Write Week V
- GWL Season 1

sral
10-18-2022, 01:46 PM
Certain

Champed
- AOWL Season 3
- Art of Writing League (2x)

sral
10-18-2022, 01:46 PM
Inno

Champed
- Lime Green Poetry Association
- Black August
- 1-2 Punch League

sral
10-18-2022, 01:46 PM
zygote

Accomplishments
- OM HOF (2x)

Champed
- Art of Writing League (3x)

sral
10-18-2022, 01:46 PM
Nigma

Champed
- Art of Writing League (x3)

sral
10-18-2022, 01:47 PM
Pinot Grij

Accomplishments
- OM HOF

Champed
- Fight Night 2
- Write Week V
- Netcees Battle League (2x)
- Winter Topical II
- 1-2 Punch league

Eviction
10-18-2022, 06:39 PM
how could you not put lars on the list? do you know how many aliases he has?

I wouldn't judge the best writers by there champed/accomps, but yea you said "Decorated"

I got my first champed on this site this year LOL I never really battled in topical on here tho.

Witty
10-18-2022, 09:08 PM
It's almost certainly you lol

I thought Certain had won more than that tbh.

Mike Wrecka
10-19-2022, 05:24 PM
It’s very obv Frank. No one else is even close. But this is a pretty boring question , a more interesting one is , accolades aside who is the best you’ve ever read.

And for me that person is Zygote

Eviction
10-19-2022, 05:26 PM
I got a champ for that writing league but It will be a big surprise if they actually give it to me lol.

I only got a problem with people who want a problem wwith me.

dead man
10-21-2022, 08:22 PM
Probably you bro lol

Eviction
10-21-2022, 08:24 PM
frank but I wouldn't count his last accomp/champ winning via no show.

sral
10-22-2022, 07:06 AM
It’s very obv Frank. No one else is even close. But this is a pretty boring question , a more interesting one is , accolades aside who is the best you’ve ever read.

And for me that person is Zygote

I figured Frank would have more, tbh.

I don’t know about “no one is even close,” though.

Pent has him matched, if not bettered, Pinot Grij has a pretty impressive list also (admittedly not at all topical based, but that’s also impressive to me).

I’d be interested to see if anyone has champed the topical league more than 3 times, it seems that’s everyones upper limit (as of this post).

sral
10-22-2022, 07:08 AM
I got a champ for that writing league but It will be a big surprise if they actually give it to me lol.

I only got a problem with people who want a problem wwith me.

It will def. be granted to you, it just takes a short while for everyone’s records and accomps to be updated. They’re usually done after the seasons concluded rather than in-season is all.

Frank
10-22-2022, 02:02 PM
http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=87143

Witty
10-22-2022, 06:57 PM
* — Frank's records include his showing as Red glare in Season 1, when he used two accounts simultaneously before being discovered. However, his battle against himself will not count on any of the win- or loss-based lists.



So fucking gone, I forgot about that. You're my hero Frank.

Witty
10-22-2022, 07:00 PM
Surprised it's not you tbh sral

I'm still not convinced it's Frank, he may have won AOWL the most but there have been a lot of tournaments which seem to be being ignored.

Eviction
10-22-2022, 07:26 PM
The real aowl finale this season was me vs frank

Master Rock
10-23-2022, 01:28 AM
Imma be Frank Dominates with Adverse Innovation.

sral
10-23-2022, 05:17 AM
Surprised it's not you tbh sral

I'm still not convinced it's Frank, he may have won AOWL the most but there have been a lot of tournaments which seem to be being ignored.

It probably is me. I guess what I was trying to see was who was the next behind me.

The rankings he’s linked to only seem to have been updated throughout season 1-3, then you’ve got some sort of “Battle Of The Week” links for season 5 or whatever but that’s about it. There’s a lot of stuff missing, definitely a lot of wins not counted nor championship titles, no GWL titles for example, no tournaments listed etc. That’s not to discredit Frank but it’s only a snippet of a much larger field so it doesn’t give us a complete picture.


I might go back over it and update to give something more comprehensive.

Universe
10-23-2022, 08:29 AM
If we're talking about just strictly Champed statuses, the simple answer is Lars and Frank... Pretty easy. But that's mostly about longevity, which, not to take anything away from those guys because it's impressive they have maintained that level for as long as they have... But if I had solely focused on leagues and tournaments on this specific site for as long as I've been doing this my list would be a mile long too.

Accolades don't mean much. They just don't. Anyone can "champ" when the roster is thin. (See brokenhal0 and Eviction, etc.) I think it's more about, when you're in a league, who do you NOT want your name beside in a battle on any given week. I promise you, none of these "highly decorated" topical guys that care about wins and losses want to see my name next to theirs...

There's a reason for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP9sFQTkNKk

Dope girl
10-23-2022, 10:04 AM
This is tought

1.Lars
2. User
3. Frank
4. Answer
5.Strika

sral
10-23-2022, 11:38 AM
If we're talking about just strictly Champed statuses, the simple answer is Lars and Frank... Pretty easy. But that's mostly about longevity, which, not to take anything away from those guys because it's impressive they have maintained that level for as long as they have... But if I had solely focused on leagues and tournaments on this specific site for as long as I've been doing this my list would be a mile long too.

Accolades don't mean much. They just don't. Anyone can "champ" when the roster is thin. (See brokenhal0 and Eviction, etc.) I think it's more about, when you're in a league, who do you NOT want your name beside in a battle on any given week. I promise you, none of these "highly decorated" topical guys that care about wins and losses want to see my name next to theirs...

There's a reason for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP9sFQTkNKk

That’s an interesting theory, for sure.

Frank has been competing since it started, but you might be surprised to hear I didn’t even choose to compete in the league at all here until Season 5:


http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=120477

http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=120609

I had two battles, with a champ match vs Deadman scheduled before it seems the moderators lost their way and I ended up taking the moderation reigns to finish what they started.

Season 6

I had one battle in Season 6, when I faced JESODIST: http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=123111 - no other matches whatsoever. I believe I only signed in to beat him.


Season 7:

I faced deadman: http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=125193 and
UnbornBuddah: http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=125294

No other matches.

There’s no archive for an AOWL Season 8, so I’m not sure if it had a rebrand or something went down where they changed the leagues name or ran something different but you can see I was never really that competitive in the seasonal league format, I certainly haven’t been around it anywhere near what Frank has.

Eviction
10-23-2022, 03:36 PM
considering the people who I beat I wouldn't say the roster was so thin, it's not like there was a bunch of sinacog's in there. this is the best your going to get for today and lucky at that. although everyone was uninspired this season.

Universe
10-24-2022, 07:16 AM
sral But you've been at it far longer than me, is my point. In fact, the first tournament I ever entered and won on urbanprowlers was because you kept bugging me to enter it lol. I just always focused on Open Mics.. and still do. No denying your resume though... and you have the ability to stay fresh, which is tough to do.

Frank is impressive as well... I think he dazzles people with his style that's why he wins. But once you see him week after week, it starts to become transparent what he's doing. He thinks of a creative ending bar that relates to the topic and literally builds out from there, maintaining the rhyme scheme with stretched words and logic. He can only operate within the confined space of the rhyme scheme that he chooses. His creativity literally stems from that. If he were ever forced to branch off, and you know, actually try to build a narrative, he would be lost. So, although technically impressive, he just doesn't know how to tell a story properly or in any effective manner. That's how you beat him. And I'll prove it when we finally do face off.

If I had battles against Lars and Frank, I'd be more worried about Lars because he can be unpredictable with what he will do. I KNOW what Frank is up to... and can counter that.

So decorated? Meh. Even boys scouts are decorated with badges. If I had been around as long as Lars and Frank their lists of accomplishments wouldn't be as long... because I'd own half of them.

Just my 2 cents. Cool thread.

Amen
10-24-2022, 07:19 AM
Was that a call out ^?

SHECK WES
10-24-2022, 07:52 AM
This is tought

1.Lars
2. User
3. Frank
4. Answer
5.Strika

/Thread

sral
10-24-2022, 08:43 AM
I just noticed Pinot Grij won The Winter Topical II finals via no-show also:

http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=122899&highlight=Winter+Topical

Damn.

That’s a huge plus as far as his accomplishments go diminished, in my eyes, too.

sral
10-24-2022, 08:45 AM
Soulstice:


Champed
- Short-Verse Topical

sral
10-24-2022, 08:47 AM
oats

Accomplishments
- OM HOF (2x)

Champed
- Fight Night LXXXIV
- Art of Writing League

Blue Bayou
10-24-2022, 09:10 AM
sral But you've been at it far longer than me, is my point. In fact, the first tournament I ever entered and won on urbanprowlers was because you kept bugging me to enter it lol. I just always focused on Open Mics.. and still do. No denying your resume though... and you have the ability to stay fresh, which is tough to do.

Frank is impressive as well... I think he dazzles people with his style that's why he wins. But once you see him week after week, it starts to become transparent what he's doing. He thinks of a creative ending bar that relates to the topic and literally builds out from there, maintaining the rhyme scheme with stretched words and logic. He can only operate within the confined space of the rhyme scheme that he chooses. His creativity literally stems from that. If he were ever forced to branch off, and you know, actually try to build a narrative, he would be lost. So, although technically impressive, he just doesn't know how to tell a story properly or in any effective manner. That's how you beat him. And I'll prove it when we finally do face off.

If I had battles against Lars and Frank, I'd be more worried about Lars because he can be unpredictable with what he will do. I KNOW what Frank is up to... and can counter that.

So decorated? Meh. Even boys scouts are decorated with badges. If I had been around as long as Lars and Frank their lists of accomplishments wouldn't be as long... because I'd own half of them.

Just my 2 cents. Cool thread.


TALK TO EM UNIIII

Blue Bayou
10-24-2022, 09:11 AM
This is tought

1.Lars
2. User
3. Frank
4. Answer
5.Strika


I love you so much

Universe
10-24-2022, 09:51 AM
Blue, stfu you condescending, one-dimensional hack... or I'll make a thread in the battle arena and slap you around like I did your boy Answer.

Whoops... Did I say that out loud?

:)

sral
10-24-2022, 11:14 AM
Was that a call out ^?

to Frank maybe?

I took it with the utmost respect personally.

I’ve won at least four of these titles in the time Uni’s been around. I can’t be sure Frank has.

Amen
10-25-2022, 08:01 AM
I’d say both.

Stated if he was around the both of you wouldn’t have half the accomps ya’ll got.

Sounds like a wild card match up.

Answer
10-25-2022, 09:17 AM
This is tought

1.Lars
2. User
3. Frank
4. Answer
5.Strika

replace lars with sinacog and we might be getting somewhere

Universe
10-25-2022, 09:32 AM
I’d say both.

Stated if he was around the both of you wouldn’t have half the accomps ya’ll got.

Sounds like a wild card match up.

This dude acting like we're just going to give away a Uni vs. Lars vs. Frank topical like it's not a league championship main event final extravaganza.

C'mon now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijs0iS3_ZM

Blue Bayou
10-25-2022, 12:13 PM
Blue, stfu you condescending, one-dimensional hack... or I'll make a thread in the battle arena and slap you around like I did your boy Answer.

Whoops... Did I say that out loud?

:)


Wait wait wait... All that Reef Origin kinda shit wasn't a troll job?

If you wanna have a forced wp battle YOU FUCKING SET IT BUD

Universe
10-25-2022, 12:51 PM
Wait wait wait... All that Reef Origin kinda shit wasn't a troll job?

If you wanna have a forced wp battle YOU FUCKING SET IT BUD

You're challenging the guy who turned algorithm into Al Gore Rhythm to a forced wordplay battle?

Your funeral.

#SonarsAssistTick

sral
10-25-2022, 03:41 PM
I’d say both.

Stated if he was around the both of you wouldn’t have half the accomps ya’ll got

…only he was around, and I won four of them, so that doesn’t hold up (at least where I’m concerned)?

Universe
10-25-2022, 04:14 PM
…only he was around, and I won four of them, so that doesn’t hold up (at least where I’m concerned)?

Well I've been "around" since Nov. 2017 and I've won two titles in GWL (which you were in and champed as well). Two in AOWL (you champed that once since I've been here). And Dust of our Labor (say what you want about that)... Which gives me five... right?

So of the nine between us, I've won five and you've won four. You didn't take part in Dust, which I won, and I didn't take part in Black August, which you won.

I'll ignore the fact that I'm ahead and say... yeah, roughly half.

Universe
10-25-2022, 04:31 PM
So I guess, using this logic, maybe I wouldn't have taken half of your titles, because you still won them. But I would "have" just as many, is my point...

Sorry I'm focused on forced wordplay right now.

sral
10-25-2022, 05:39 PM
lmao I only have one in that season of AOWL because I finished the season 7-0, undefeated, as champion

let’s not overlook that

would it have meant more if I had lost and made two runs at champing in that season, or does it mean more that I champed and then continued to defend the belt for the rest of the season?

to me it’s the latter over the former always

Universe
10-25-2022, 05:53 PM
Lars, I finished that very same season 7-0, undefeated, as champion. Once again I'm one up on you... Your belt was the one I walked away from.

Don't make me keep doing this, man. I'm agreeing to half... the record speaks otherwise.

Let's move on.

Eviction
10-25-2022, 08:47 PM
I wonder if I would have had many more champs if I battled on here more, was more hated back in the day now though, now people are just like fuck it's dia.

my text battles are whatever but I enjoy actual writing more.

Eviction
10-27-2022, 04:28 AM
it was cool to get an aowl champed since I was one of the og admins back then and helped set the site up.

Sinacog
10-27-2022, 07:39 PM
Nothing

Eviction
10-28-2022, 08:57 PM
I was undefeated for most of this season of aowl when you lose your like ah fuck it

MaCe
10-31-2022, 02:12 AM
Outside of this shitty ass board and the old HF, I won every topical match even the lotion ones with some of the old heads moms.

Lars has no chance

Eviction
10-31-2022, 02:13 AM
mace is the best ever.

MaCe
10-31-2022, 02:25 AM
You heard it from the man with a butthole the hood calls The McNugget bucket

sral
10-31-2022, 05:12 PM
Outside of this shitty ass board and the old HF, I won every topical match even the lotion ones with some of the old heads moms.

Lars has no chance

lmao word faggot

how many abrasions you sold recently?

Aero
10-31-2022, 05:47 PM
lmao word faggot

how many abrasions you sold recently?

You still married or is that getting tired?

MaCe
11-01-2022, 02:52 AM
lmao word faggot

how many abrasions you sold recently?

Trey fiddy on each one of ya wife’s knee caps Cornelius

oats
11-20-2022, 03:10 PM
As far as accomplishments it really is a question of who's number 2, but my hunch is probably Pent Up after Lars.

But accomplishments shows more about consistency than ability, imo. Guys like dead man, pancake and soulstice ran roughshod over competition but also no-showed a lot. I had a pretty monstrous run in AOWL that got derailed because I was moving with my fiancee and dog to another country during the playoffs. The people who showed up week after week racked up the most accomplishments, but they weren't necessarily the best/most formidable.

Vulgar also deserves a mention as one of the all-time topicalists imo, though I'm not sure what he's champed and all that off the top.

NYCSPITZ
11-24-2022, 02:33 PM
As far as accomplishments it really is a question of who's number 2, but my hunch is probably Pent Up after Lars.

But accomplishments shows more about consistency than ability, imo. Guys like dead man, pancake and soulstice ran roughshod over competition but also no-showed a lot. I had a pretty monstrous run in AOWL that got derailed because I was moving with my fiancee and dog to another country during the playoffs. The people who showed up week after week racked up the most accomplishments, but they weren't necessarily the best/most formidable.

Vulgar also deserves a mention as one of the all-time topicalists imo, though I'm not sure what he's champed and all that off the top.

Yes

Agree

Come see me…

Eŋg
11-24-2022, 04:30 PM
top 5 dead or alive and that's just off one verse.

Frank
10-31-2023, 01:06 PM
http://media4.giphy.com/media/Er3QVX48nt5ok/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47p8qlo4taeikjr1yzg8fdiaxux8rl sgk6k2y85owh&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Dope girl
10-31-2023, 04:48 PM
Lars