Thinking about going paleo

[oats]

Anyone on here have a paleo diet? My buddy started about 6 weeks ago and got super fit, swears by it.

[PancakeBrah]

w/e u wanna do bro just w/e u do dont do it bcuz that shit gives u cancer

[namesake]

make's you super fit, until the chemo sessions start.

[PancakeBrah]

u will die

[Diode]

stupid

[PancakeBrah]

hey guys diode's weighed in. convo over. maybe make a new topic that he doesn't see then we can have a conversation about it. make it a secret one lol shhhhh

[NYCSPITZ]

do it even if u get cancer u can beat it by drinking nothing but fruit and vegetable juice. DO IT

[PancakeBrah]

tru

[dull boy]

I do this, loosely.

[Neighbor]

I did strict paleo for 6 months.. felt good overall, but I don't think it's a sustainable way to eat

I do a modified paleo diet now & feel incredible.. basically cut out all sugar, yeast, gluten & processed foods.. you'll be fine

[PancakeBrah]

Do you do steroids, though? Because that's relevant. I think oats doesn't use testosterone enhancing drugs. So he has to be smart about his eating for it to be effective.

[Wise Wiggles]

I just eat mooing cows in the field

[Neighbor]

Yeah, I do a cycle of straight test 1-2 times per year, max

Obviously, I could eat McDonald's all the time given that & my metabolism.. but eating any type of paleo/primal/candida -type diet just makes sense, in general.. you're cutting out anything processed, anything that negatively modulates your hormones, & choosing high-quality, nutrient-dense food

You're going to thrive on that, no matter what

[PancakeBrah]

if u eat tater tots and tacos u should be good

[PancakeBrah]

Yeah, I do a cycle of straight test 1-2 times per year, max

Obviously, I could eat McDonald's all the time given that & my metabolism.. but eating any type of paleo/primal/candida -type diet just makes sense, in general.. you're cutting out anything processed, anything that negatively modulates your hormones, & choosing high-quality, nutrient-dense food

You're going to thrive on that, no matter what

nah but paleo isn't optimal for people who don't cheat.

there iz better wayz

[Neighbor]

What is cheating, Pancake?

You don't want to have this discussion

[PancakeBrah]

Using steroids.

Cut and dry.

lol @ you don't want to have this conversation. You are very intellectually intimidating.

[uh-oh]

just eat what you want fags

i'm eating pumpkin spice mnm's. earlier i had half a bag of doritos. for dinner i had a chicken breast WITH THE BONES FUCK SKINLESS and some chicken rice a roni. for breakfast i had BACON

[Diode]

he asked what people thought

i gave my opinion

you are still butthurt because everyone sided with bags over you

life goes on, cake takes boarding too seriously, everything is right with the world.

[PancakeBrah]

when did people side with bags over me? i legit don't know what you're talking about.

your perception is wrong. but i dont expect much from a know-it-all

[Diode]

your perception is wrong. but i dont expect much from a know-it-all

coming from all 24 years of you

sure thing small guy

[uh-oh]

i side with myself over all of you

someone mail me some steroids

[Diode]

i side with myself over all of you

someone mail me some steroids

listen to da god

[PancakeBrah]

coming from all 24 years of you

sure thing small guy

in this post diode tries to assert dominance because he's 30 and bigger than me. diode is not as intelligent as i am, and does not know how silly he is.

the condescension is so cute, though.

you're very worldly and incredibly smart, diode. and your 100% natural weightlifting progress is something to behold. your website is awesome and you know everything.

[Strikta]

lol uh-oh

[Diode]

in this post diode tries to assert dominance because he's 30 and bigger than me. diode is not as intelligent as i am, and does not know how silly he is.

the condescension is so cute, though.

you're very worldly and incredibly smart, diode. and your 100% natural weightlifting progress is something to behold. your website is awesome and you know everything.

you are a child.

diode is not as intelligent as you, yet he was already making six figures at your age.

in 2007 money.

[PancakeBrah]

that's fantastic. you really are the best person on the internet. shine on you crazy star.

[Diode]

that's fantastic. you really are the best person on the internet. shine on you crazy star.

it's okay to be wrong about your assumptions that you are the best at everything, cake.

let's be topical:

i am not the best at text or audio raps, for example.

[PancakeBrah]

and i'm not as financially successful as you. nor does that bother me. knowing i'm more intelligent is just fine.

[Diode]

and i'm not as financially successful as you. nor does that bother me. knowing i'm more intelligent is just fine.

that's cute.

especially since you are 24 and, given you are on this forum, are unlikely to have done anything beyond undergrad. bold declaration, cake.

[Wise Wiggles]

your perception is wrong. but i dont expect much from a know-it-all

Better hope GuNNaH don't see this.

[PancakeBrah]

itt money=intelligence or level of education=intelligence.

i can tell by your lack of self-awareness and ridiculous way you insistent upon yourself you're about average in intellect. you're probably a hard worker, though. so good job. im going to stop responding to you now. next time you inject or buy something shiny, im sure someone, somewhere, is really impressed.

[Diode]

itt money=intelligence or level of education=intelligence.

i can tell by your lack of self-awareness and ridiculous way you insistent upon yourself you're about average in intellect. you're probably a hard worker, though. so good job. im going to stop responding to you now. next time you inject or buy something shiny, im sure someone, somewhere, is really impressed.

seriously loling right now since you spent this entire thread talking down anyone else who responded

in fact i will make a thread just for you

[God Of War]

i know some mill workers who is probably the smartest people I ever seen


they are content with what they do and who they are

[Rawn MD]

L-carnatine gives u cancer too

[uh-oh]

i'm the smartest person i know and i dropped out and have only worked at fast food establishments and shitty franchise chain body shops

i outwit diode on the reg

when you troll him he's that dude like NAH YOU AINT TROLLING YOU ARE SERIOUSLY INVESTED IN THIS. I'M NOT THO. SEE. IM A BLUE BELT IN JIU JITSU UNDER A GUY WITH TYE DYE PANTS

[God Of War]

i'm the smartest person i know and i dropped out and have only worked at fast food establishments and shitty franchise chain body shops

i outwit diode on the reg

when you troll him he's that dude like NAH YOU AINT TROLLING YOU ARE SERIOUSLY INVESTED IN THIS. I'M NOT THO. SEE. IM A BLUE BELT IN JIU JITSU UNDER A GUY WITH TYE DYE PANTS

KIP IS THAT YOU

[God Of War]

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[Diode]

Scott Devine, first American to train white to black under the gracies and technically the first American black belt

wjayeber.

[Witty]

I wish I was smart.

[veritas]

Ego.

[Diode]

Id

[oats]

Wait is the cancer thing legit? How does a paleo diet increase the risk of cancer?

I like diode and cake both, but neither of you have said anything about the topic at hand, I want to hear your perspectives.

[Rawn MD]

oats paleo is vagitarian right

[Witty]

I thought you meant you were gonna become a dinosaur.

I really did.

[uh-oh]

oats paleo is vagitarian right

paleo is where you eat whatever a caveman would

meats and veggies and fruits and shit

no breads, because its pre-farming/processed shit

just like steaks and EARS OF CORN

[Zen]

It seems like processed foods would give you cancer not natural ones...Unless the earth is trying to kill us because we've been trying to strangle it with plastic bags.

[oats]

Uh oh is correct, except for corn is typically not allowed. So you can eat meat, so long as it's grass fed/free range/organic/etc. No gluten/wheat/carbs though.

[God Of War]

Uh oh is correct, except for corn is typically not allowed. So you can eat meat, so long as it's grass fed/free range/organic/etc. No gluten/wheat/carbs though.

go on a no gay diet!

[Frank Metts]

I did strict paleo for 6 months.. felt good overall, but I don't think it's a sustainable way to eat

I do a modified paleo diet now & feel incredible.. basically cut out all sugar, yeast, gluten & processed foods.. you'll be fine

Says the guy who gorges on bags of Doritos?

[oats]

go on a no gay diet!

Might have to slowly phase into that...CUZ I EAT FAGGOTS FOR BREAKFAST

[Frank Metts]

But idk about the whole hunter gather style diet .. yes your rich in protein but are body's habe evolved a lot since ... and I know america is obese because of over indulgence of carbs and lethargic nature but those types of and all types people live longer now as well .. some will argue medical advances which is also true but bodys evolve over time ... since the early 20th century life expectancy has more then doubled and so has the population.

People think the theories I've studied and believe are ass backwards but to much protein and muscle will make you age and die faster then an avg American man ... if you eat balanced then the slower your metabolism the better. when your body is trained to run off fewer calories and burns food slower then you'll be a lot healthier and not feel hungry.. carbs are good in food but 75-150 grams should be min/max ... protein is good but makes the body work to hard to get rid of it .. but when it needs it it will take it from what's stored in your muscles so you should have some daily intake just not a diet based around it
Also you know you need good and bad fats and oils l, not too much but enough to wear your body isn't constantly feeding off your stored energy source..

Shits a lifestyle change not a diet .. look at any study done on people who've lived past 100 and you'll find their slower metabolic rate to be a common factor in their long lives and theyve eaten what they wanted just didnt over indulge the metabolic rate is usually compared to how tortoises live so long as well .... faster metabolism make your body/heart work to hard and just like and engine that's over heated it could break down without warning

[oats]

Frank Metts agreed about the "not a diet, it's a lifestyle change" part. Most of the centurions I've read about have an unconsciously paleo friendly diet tbh.

[Untold]

I took the "Paleo Challenge" for a month straight. It's got it's benefits:

First off, do it and prepare to spend MONEY! I bought most of my groceries from either Whole Foods or one of the local farmer markets. Anything local or organic is going to cost more and always sold in less quantities, so it's not mass produced. Another tip, when buying food, look up online what's ok to eat and what's not, then take your list and buy everything that you can eat/will eat for like the next week-2 weeks. Since your buying organic and non processed foods, you'll want to drop the dough on it out the gate so you won't be tempted to spend more money while on the diet. Shit gets expensive.

But a paleo cookbook or go online and get creative. CREATIVITY is almost a requirement on this diet because you can get bored real easy just eating meat and veggies. You'll want to set time out to certain meals, especially if you want to do a nice meal like Paleo chili renos with cauliflower rice on the side. Also made a killer salsa to go over it. Mouth watering shit. Or if you want to do Paleo sweet potato pancakes or waffles made out of almond flower and flax. Tons of recipes. I even made Paleo ice cream out of almost milk or coconut milk and bananas. It was intense.

[Neighbor]

Says the guy who gorges on bags of Doritos?

I cheat frequently

[oats]

Untold appreciate the insight. I usually shop at whole foods anyway, just got my paleo groceries last night though, had to tweak my usual list. Def gonna be an expensive change.

I got the cookbook practical paleo, pretty helpful. Been making cauliflower rice and shit. Hit me if you have anything in particular that you like or found helpful, or if there's any challenge that you experienced or something. I would appreciate it.

[Untold]

oats no prob. real talk, this was something my body had to get used to as well. at first, i couldn't take a shit properly. like i got all "corked" up and felt bloated all the time. but after the first week, my body started getting used to things and regulating. it was like finding an equilibrium. at like a week and a half, my body felt normal. i did get cravings for sugars and starches, but i found nuts(almonds, cashews and pistachios), fruits(pretty much anything) and random vegetable chips to feed that need. eventually it all just went away.

in all honesty, the only thing i wasn't able to stop drinking was COFFEE. i gave up all alcohols and drugs years ago, so that wasn't hard and i don't smoke cigarettes. but caffein was my DOC for the time and i would still use organic sugar IF i decided to sweeten my coffee and also used a coconut milk creamer(not completely pale friendly) when i wanted to cream my coffee. also, dark chocolate. try to find the darkest chocolate you can and eat it as a snack from time to time. or you can make your own snack bars. there was a recipe i loved and it was to make Paleo chocolate chip & bacon cookies. i used almond flower and dark chocolate chips, pure maple syrup(or honey, your preference and recipe) and that shit was BOMB.

i'll tell you this, by the end of it, i looked great, had loads of energy and seemed more focused in life. i've since done a retarded version of the Paleo diet(like one week on, 3 weeks off lol) and still do a little exercise. but when i finished, i didn't even work out. all i did was run and i was the most ripped i had been in years. i didn't have a huge gain in muscle mass, but everything i ate burned into muscle and my body fat was more non-existent than it is right now. but i agree with Neighbor in modifying your diet to fit you once you do the Paleo diet for a month or longer. it's hard for me not to consider putting certain breads or starches in my body. i think we've advanced ourselves in food enough to where some of this stuff is actually beneficial to our diets.

just my 2 cents though. i really don't know anything :/

[oats]

Untold thanks a lot man, that's all really helpful. have you heard of the bullet proof diet? I order coffee from them, paleo friendly. expensive, as you might guess, but it's really nice to continue drinking coffee. Though, I only let myself have coffee twice a week anyway, rest of the time I drink tea or I don't have caffeine. I'll let you know how it goes, I'm excited for it. Today has been day one, so far so good.

[Untold]

Word. Do it for at least a month. You've already invested the money, now invest the time!

[Neighbor]

Untold thanks a lot man, that's all really helpful. have you heard of the bullet proof diet? I order coffee from them, paleo friendly. expensive, as you might guess, but it's really nice to continue drinking coffee. Though, I only let myself have coffee twice a week anyway, rest of the time I drink tea or I don't have caffeine. I'll let you know how it goes, I'm excited for it. Today has been day one, so far so good.

I follow a lot of what Dave Asprey says.. he's actually the reason I started using nootropics

The Bulletproof Diet is a great way to start & if you find it sustainable, continue w/ it.. I keep my carbs down to quinoa, brown rice, sweet potato & rolled oats, w/ a cheat meal or two thrown in weekly

I would start w/ either Asprey's diet or something like Mark Sisson's Primal Blueprint diet & go from there.. I have a degree in Herbal Medicine & am also a CNC, so feel free to pick my brain

[oats]

I'll definitely hit you up, thanks neigh. I'm sticking to asprey's pretty much, how it was introduced to me. My buddies who have been doing bulletproof love it.

[Frank Metts]

Frank Metts agreed about the "not a diet, it's a lifestyle change" part. Most of the centurions I've read about have an unconsciously paleo friendly diet tbh.

I know your a smart dude .. you seem very intellectual but for real do some research its still a debated topic but I think actual science is on the side of the high metabolism myth side .. an avg person with an avg lifestyle burns the avg amount of calories your suppose to ingest a day so its a wash ... it takes around 3000-3500 extra calories not burned to start the process of putting on a single pound ... but that's an avg person someone with bulk could burn 3000 calories a day before they hit the gym or sit on the couch so you have to consume that to keep up or eat even more to put on some more muscle or fat

As you get older your metabolism naturally decreases which should be common sense but curving that with a protein rich diet ( your body uses 30% more enegry to break down protein then a simple carb ) will lead to a large plunge at some point ...

You'll find fact based info that speeding up your metabolism is bad for a life plan, for a simple diet to cut a few summer pounds is good but winter weight comes back ... why do you think ephedrine was banned by the fda for use as a " dietary supplement " because it make the metabolism and heart rate curve so much people were dropping dead from heart attacks

Portion control that's Americas downfall .. no human should be able to stomach a double quarter pounder large fry and coke but millions do a day sometimes more then once ... if you could control your portions try to hit a good bit of what's on the food pyramid and worked out or had an active lifestyle your stomach would shrink inside and you'll feel amazing outside, your metabolism will topple off to wear it should be naturally decrease with age as planned and you can have a longer natural life expectancy ... if your just trying to bulk up then protein is the way to go and its a slow process but you have to sustain your protein to keep that muscle or your body will take what it needs from those muscles ... Which is my whole point of too much protein is terrible for a life plan

Ohh and I've lost 49 lbs in 6 months and haven't seen a gym in 3 years every week i lose at least a lb or two .. all real weight no fads, supplements or special diets ... just portion control and active life with my daughter outside of work

[Wise Wiggles]

try exercise. and not being lazy sloths.

[oats]

I feel you, frank. To be clear, this isn't for weight loss - I have an active lifestyle and am in good shape. This is more for internal health; joint aches and inflammation, heart health, colon health, etc.

So far I mostly eat veggies, with eggs in the morning and meat/veggie stirfry in the evening, def doesn't feel like an excessive amount of protein. The biggest part for me is cutting out the wheat and gluten products, since supposedly that's the stuff behind my joint pain and body aches. I'll def look into it more, though.

[NYCSPITZ]

I'm jacked out of my fucking mind sike but i'm reasonably brolic tho pm 4 tips