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...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:01 AM
Saul Alvarez
Robert Guerrero
Miguel Cotto
Victor Ortiz
Shane Mosely
Juan Marquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar de la Hoya
Carlos Baldomir
Zab Judah
Shamba Mitchell
Arturo Gatti
Henry Brussles
Phillip N'Dou
Castillo (x2)
Jesus Chavez
Diego Corrales



show me anybody with a resume anywhere near this (while remaining undefeated)

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:05 AM
and I'll list out pacroids even tho its a fact that he fell off after he stopped juicing

Juan Marquez (x2, one draw, one loss)
Shane Mosley
Antonio Margarito
Josh Clottey
Miguel Cotto
Oscar de la Hoya
David Diaz
Marco Antonio Barrera
Eric Morales (x2, 1 loss)
Jorge Salas

Diode
09-23-2013, 10:09 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Ray_Leonard

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:09 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Ray_Leonard

I'm talking about like the last 20 years, not the 60s

and actually now that I'm lookin at this.....

mayweather > sugar ray leonard

Diode
09-23-2013, 10:10 AM
I'm talking about like the last 20 years, not the 60s

late 70s, 80s, and very beginning of 90s

but whatever

we get it. you think pbf could beat tyson in his prime in a catch weight fight.

this thread is dumb.

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:13 AM
late 70s, 80s, and very beginning of 90s

but whatever

we get it. you think pbf could beat tyson in his prime in a catch weight fight.

this thread is dumb.

tyson is my #1 fav

mayweather ain't in my top 5

ijs boxing is back and let's talk about the greatest doing it right now without bias

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV_TPPlrTjU

PancakeBrah
09-23-2013, 10:32 AM
40-23


Bears >

Fart
09-23-2013, 10:35 AM
80% of his opponents are hand picked. Fuck that pussy

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:42 AM
80% of his opponents are hand picked. Fuck that pussy

lol yea, hand picking the best fighters fightin

only person that would give him a match is Martinez right now. other than that who exactly should he have been facing?

pacroids?? well he shouldn't have ducked

Mosely ducked Mayweather when they were both in their primes

Guerrero may be a hand picked fighter to mayweather but against anyone else if they win that would be one of their biggest wins, period

take canelo for example. he beats guerrero that's a notable win for him to add with trout and mosely

PancakeBrah
09-23-2013, 10:48 AM
Eddie did you watch the bears-steelers game? It was good.

Fart
09-23-2013, 10:49 AM
Lol best fighters
I never heard of almost anyone he's fought. Then again I haven't cared about boxing in a good while so (shrug

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:53 AM
Lol best fighters
I never heard of almost anyone he's fought. Then again I haven't cared about boxing in a good while so (shrug

yea maybe that's why, prolly shouldn't even be in thread

he's currently on an 11-fight streak against fighters that are notable fighters, starting with gatti

start with gatti on my list, and then go up the list. he beat all of them in a row and there are all great fighters

Zen
09-23-2013, 10:57 AM
Munster did you watch being Mike Tyson yesterday?

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:57 AM
Munster did you watch being Mike Tyson yesterday?

no I think that came on during the steelers game?

Zen
09-23-2013, 10:58 AM
It came on after the cowboys game so it came on at about 3 30

Fart
09-23-2013, 11:02 AM
Man boxing needs more relevance, badly.

MMLRLK
09-23-2013, 11:05 AM
lol dudes hate on money may jus cuz he a cocky black man gettin it. but forreal NOBODY can deny his dedication & his interview after workin canelo was beyond humble & respectful. if yall still tryna hate on him for bein the 'cocky' dude that hadnt proved himself yall a lil too late, ya should move on to adrien broner. #AB #ABOUTBILLIONS

Inno
09-23-2013, 12:07 PM
De la hoya
Mosley
Gotti

Only names worth a mention on that list.

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 12:24 PM
De la hoya
Mosley
Gotti

Only names worth a mention on that list.

dog

first off its spelled "Gatti" and secondly,

you sure you wanna act like you know what you talkin bout, listing gatti as the third best boxer on that list like that?

Inno
09-23-2013, 12:28 PM
dog

first off its spelled "Gatti" and secondly,

you sure you wanna act like you know what you talkin bout, listing gatti as the third best boxer on that list like that?

I just listed them no particular order.

With that said...

Yes the only three worth a mention.

Heres a question

Who on that list comes close to the three I mentioned?

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 12:39 PM
I just listed them no particular order.

With that said...

Yes the only three worth a mention.

Heres a question

Who on that list comes close to the three I mentioned?

well first off baldimor KO'd gatti


carlos baldomir
miguel cotto
Juan manuel marquez
ricky hatton
chico corrales
zab judah

they all without doubt have a better boxing resume than gatti did

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 12:41 PM
I'm pretty sure castillo do too but I'm not sure off top

Kaeo Seru
09-23-2013, 12:45 PM
Saul Alvarez - Was Picked by the public en masse to be The One to beat Money

Robert Guerrero - Is a really good fighter... when fighting anyone other than Floyd (see Andre Berto)

Miguel Cotto - Landed more punches on Floyd than ANYONE ever has (including Canelo)

Victor Ortiz - was a good prospect but definitely out of his depth

Shane Mosely - A shell of his former self although he did have a few moments of shining brilliance in this fight.. was an Elite fighter in his Prime should've retired years ago

Juan Marquez - Great fighter in 4 fights with Pac he got a Draw, a split Dec, a Maj Dec, and a KO win. but he got completely MAULED by Mayweather. (maybe becuase he came up in Weight to fight floyd??)

Ricky Hatton - was bulldozing all his opponents b4 Floyd

Oscar de la Hoya - while not in his prime still put up a great fight against Money could've been called a draw if you're a fan of ineffective body punching

Carlos Baldomir - was once a good fighter

Zab Judah - was actually beating Floyd in the early rounds but eventually Floyd made some adjustments and pulled out the win. Judah has always been a good fighter but his chin and out of ring antics have diminished him

Shamba Mitchell - Great prospect at one point. got demolished and exposed by Money

Arturo Gatti - World Class fighter. great heart great chin and was shut down by Floyd

Henry Brussles
Phillip N'Dou

Castillo (x2) - many would argue that Castillo was robbed in the Dec of thier 1st fight. that arguement dies in the 2nd. great fighter none-the-less

Jesus Chavez

Diego Corrales - an exciting fighter gave us many lay-it-all-on-the-line fight of the year bouts. got man handled by floyd


I'm not gonna deny that Floyd hand picks his fights. but Who wouldn't. I don't see any of you looking for someone you knOW you can't beat and swinging on him. at the end of the day Boxing is still a BUSINESS so he picks the fights that will bring him the most money. Canelo was picked by the Boxing fans and floyd haters to be the one to end his reign as p4p champ. but he smacked the pup around and exposed him too. Honestly even without the hand [icks i dont see anyone beating floyd. the matches would've been a lot closer like his earlier fights with Castillo and Judah. but by large he still wins.

so who do you think has what it takes to defeat Floyd? lets look at some prospects..

Danny Garcia - unbeaten young and talented. usually the underdog, always wins... BUT do you think he has the experience needed to compete with Floyd? canelo didn't and he was 42-0...

Sergio Martinez - tremendously gifted athlete... was almost KO'd by chavez jr. (lol) well past his prime coming off and an injury that would make him slower and less able to compete with a sharp in shape mayweather.

Adrien Broner - hah!

Timothy Bradley - Lets see if he can get past Marquez first

Pacman - even if he beats Brandon Rios his management wont allow him to fight mayweather.

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 01:00 PM
Saul Alvarez - Was Picked by the public en masse to be The One to beat Money

Robert Guerrero - Is a really good fighter... when fighting anyone other than Floyd (see Andre Berto)

Miguel Cotto - Landed more punches on Floyd than ANYONE ever has (including Canelo)

Victor Ortiz - was a good prospect but definitely out of his depth

Shane Mosely - A shell of his former self although he did have a few moments of shining brilliance in this fight.. was an Elite fighter in his Prime should've retired years ago

Juan Marquez - Great fighter in 4 fights with Pac he got a Draw, a split Dec, a Maj Dec, and a KO win. but he got completely MAULED by Mayweather. (maybe becuase he came up in Weight to fight floyd??)

Ricky Hatton - was bulldozing all his opponents b4 Floyd

Oscar de la Hoya - while not in his prime still put up a great fight against Money could've been called a draw if you're a fan of ineffective body punching

Carlos Baldomir - was once a good fighter

Zab Judah - was actually beating Floyd in the early rounds but eventually Floyd made some adjustments and pulled out the win. Judah has always been a good fighter but his chin and out of ring antics have diminished him

Shamba Mitchell - Great prospect at one point. got demolished and exposed by Money

Arturo Gatti - World Class fighter. great heart great chin and was shut down by Floyd

Henry Brussles
Phillip N'Dou

Castillo (x2) - many would argue that Castillo was robbed in the Dec of thier 1st fight. that arguement dies in the 2nd. great fighter none-the-less

Jesus Chavez

Diego Corrales - an exciting fighter gave us many lay-it-all-on-the-line fight of the year bouts. got man handled by floyd


I'm not gonna deny that Floyd hand picks his fights. but Who wouldn't. I don't see any of you looking for someone you knOW you can't beat and swinging on him. at the end of the day Boxing is still a BUSINESS so he picks the fights that will bring him the most money. Canelo was picked by the Boxing fans and floyd haters to be the one to end his reign as p4p champ. but he smacked the pup around and exposed him too. Honestly even without the hand [icks i dont see anyone beating floyd. the matches would've been a lot closer like his earlier fights with Castillo and Judah. but by large he still wins.

so who do you think has what it takes to defeat Floyd? lets look at some prospects..

Danny Garcia - unbeaten young and talented. usually the underdog, always wins... BUT do you think he has the experience needed to compete with Floyd? canelo didn't and he was 42-0...

Sergio Martinez - tremendously gifted athlete... was almost KO'd by chavez jr. (lol) well past his prime coming off and an injury that would make him slower and less able to compete with a sharp in shape mayweather.

Adrien Broner - hah!

Timothy Bradley - Lets see if he can get past Marquez first

Pacman - even if he beats Brandon Rios his management wont allow him to fight mayweather.

broner wouldn't even accept the offer if it were given to him lol

but I noticed you lacked a summary of Phillip N'dou and Jesus Chavez... you unfamiliar with them?

Witty
09-23-2013, 01:18 PM
You know, while you are all discussing this guy, he has no idea who you are and doesn't care.

This is why I can't get so deep into shit like this, I don't care enough about what he does, or anyone, to dedicate this amount of time talking about him, he isn't sharing his money with me, why would I give a fuck?

I appreciate his talent and will watch his fights, but fuck this arguing about how great another dude may or may not be.

I don't understand most people tbh.

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 01:20 PM
You know, while you are all discussing this guy, he has no idea who you are and doesn't care.

This is why I can't get so deep into shit like this, I don't care enough about what he does, or anyone, to dedicate this amount of time talking about him, he isn't sharing his money with me, why would I give a fuck?

I appreciate his talent and will watch his fights, but fuck this arguing about how great another dude may or may not be.

I don't understand most people tbh.

so you don't watch sports then

what sport does this not happen in?

Witty
09-23-2013, 01:23 PM
I watch sports...and then when the sports are over I continue my life.

I don't give a shit about the individual...I get entertained and then when the entertainment stops, I stop giving a fuck.

I don't idolise any sports person, or musician, or anybody...because I don't see any reason to.

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 01:25 PM
I watch sports...and then when the sports are over I continue my life.

I don't give a shit about the individual...I get entertained and then when the entertainment stops, I stop giving a fuck.

I don't idolise any sports person, or musician, or anybody...because I don't see any reason to.

oh ok I guess

but yea, I debate during the day about my favorite sports.

sometimes I make threads about sports to maybe come across things I never knew or recognized about said sport.

which is what I would like to happen here, but the only person that prolly has anything to say of value is metts

Chyeahhh!!!
09-23-2013, 01:47 PM
wow @ Innovator and the three he listed. What the fluck? Diego, Cotto, Zudah? Shit Cotto alone that man was feared and revered b. He was never the same after Margarito even if Marg cheated. Artemus you sound like you grew up watching wrestling and still think that shit is real. Fluck outta here

Chyeahhh!!!
09-23-2013, 01:48 PM
Zudah was like one of the only dudes who wobbled Mayweater. Zudah is top 5 southpaw in my book even if he is shit now lol

Witty
09-23-2013, 01:52 PM
oh ok I guess

but yea, I debate during the day about my favorite sports.

sometimes I make threads about sports to maybe come across things I never knew or recognized about said sport.

which is what I would like to happen here, but the only person that prolly has anything to say of value is metts

Fair enough, we are all different.

It is what makes the world an interesting and dynamic place.

Do you.

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 02:20 PM
wow @ Innovator and the three he listed. What the fluck? Diego, Cotto, Zudah? Shit Cotto alone that man was feared and revered b. He was never the same after Margarito even if Marg cheated. Artemus you sound like you grew up watching wrestling and still think that shit is real. Fluck outta here

lol ikr dude listed possibly the worst boxer off the list as one of the only ones worth mentioning lls

Fart
09-23-2013, 02:21 PM
You know, while you are all discussing this guy, he has no idea who you are and doesn't care.


WHAT!!

Witty
09-23-2013, 02:22 PM
I don't appreciate your sarcasm.

Don't do that again.

Fart
09-23-2013, 02:23 PM
I'm not sorry.

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 02:24 PM
honestly, IS gatti the worst on that list??

Witty
09-23-2013, 02:30 PM
I'm not sorry.

Yet.

Inno
09-23-2013, 02:41 PM
wow @ Innovator and the three he listed. What the fluck? Diego, Cotto, Zudah? Shit Cotto alone that man was feared and revered b. He was never the same after Margarito even if Marg cheated. Artemus you sound like you grew up watching wrestling and still think that shit is real. Fluck outta here

Gatti is legend

U telling me hold cotto and judah in the same cloth as him?

Come man...all worthy opponents but those three are tops on that list...which was my point

...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 02:45 PM
Gatti is legend

U telling me hold cotto and judah in the same cloth as him?

Come man...all worthy opponents but those three are tops on that list...which was my point

gatti had a legendary trilogy with micky ward

GATTI is not a legend bro

Diode
09-23-2013, 02:48 PM
gatti had a legendary trilogy with micky ward

GATTI is not a legend bro

HATE TO AGREE WITH EDDIE BUT

THIS