View Full Version : People say Mayweather isn't that great.. let's take a look at this
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:01 AM
Saul Alvarez
Robert Guerrero
Miguel Cotto
Victor Ortiz
Shane Mosely
Juan Marquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar de la Hoya
Carlos Baldomir
Zab Judah
Shamba Mitchell
Arturo Gatti
Henry Brussles
Phillip N'Dou
Castillo (x2)
Jesus Chavez
Diego Corrales
show me anybody with a resume anywhere near this (while remaining undefeated)
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:05 AM
and I'll list out pacroids even tho its a fact that he fell off after he stopped juicing
Juan Marquez (x2, one draw, one loss)
Shane Mosley
Antonio Margarito
Josh Clottey
Miguel Cotto
Oscar de la Hoya
David Diaz
Marco Antonio Barrera
Eric Morales (x2, 1 loss)
Jorge Salas
Diode
09-23-2013, 10:09 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Ray_Leonard
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:09 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Ray_Leonard
I'm talking about like the last 20 years, not the 60s
and actually now that I'm lookin at this.....
mayweather > sugar ray leonard
Diode
09-23-2013, 10:10 AM
I'm talking about like the last 20 years, not the 60s
late 70s, 80s, and very beginning of 90s
but whatever
we get it. you think pbf could beat tyson in his prime in a catch weight fight.
this thread is dumb.
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:13 AM
late 70s, 80s, and very beginning of 90s
but whatever
we get it. you think pbf could beat tyson in his prime in a catch weight fight.
this thread is dumb.
tyson is my #1 fav
mayweather ain't in my top 5
ijs boxing is back and let's talk about the greatest doing it right now without bias
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV_TPPlrTjU
PancakeBrah
09-23-2013, 10:32 AM
40-23
Bears >
80% of his opponents are hand picked. Fuck that pussy
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:42 AM
80% of his opponents are hand picked. Fuck that pussy
lol yea, hand picking the best fighters fightin
only person that would give him a match is Martinez right now. other than that who exactly should he have been facing?
pacroids?? well he shouldn't have ducked
Mosely ducked Mayweather when they were both in their primes
Guerrero may be a hand picked fighter to mayweather but against anyone else if they win that would be one of their biggest wins, period
take canelo for example. he beats guerrero that's a notable win for him to add with trout and mosely
PancakeBrah
09-23-2013, 10:48 AM
Eddie did you watch the bears-steelers game? It was good.
Lol best fighters
I never heard of almost anyone he's fought. Then again I haven't cared about boxing in a good while so (shrug
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:53 AM
Lol best fighters
I never heard of almost anyone he's fought. Then again I haven't cared about boxing in a good while so (shrug
yea maybe that's why, prolly shouldn't even be in thread
he's currently on an 11-fight streak against fighters that are notable fighters, starting with gatti
start with gatti on my list, and then go up the list. he beat all of them in a row and there are all great fighters
Munster did you watch being Mike Tyson yesterday?
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 10:57 AM
Munster did you watch being Mike Tyson yesterday?
no I think that came on during the steelers game?
It came on after the cowboys game so it came on at about 3 30
Man boxing needs more relevance, badly.
MMLRLK
09-23-2013, 11:05 AM
lol dudes hate on money may jus cuz he a cocky black man gettin it. but forreal NOBODY can deny his dedication & his interview after workin canelo was beyond humble & respectful. if yall still tryna hate on him for bein the 'cocky' dude that hadnt proved himself yall a lil too late, ya should move on to adrien broner. #AB #ABOUTBILLIONS
De la hoya
Mosley
Gotti
Only names worth a mention on that list.
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 12:24 PM
De la hoya
Mosley
Gotti
Only names worth a mention on that list.
dog
first off its spelled "Gatti" and secondly,
you sure you wanna act like you know what you talkin bout, listing gatti as the third best boxer on that list like that?
dog
first off its spelled "Gatti" and secondly,
you sure you wanna act like you know what you talkin bout, listing gatti as the third best boxer on that list like that?
I just listed them no particular order.
With that said...
Yes the only three worth a mention.
Heres a question
Who on that list comes close to the three I mentioned?
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 12:39 PM
I just listed them no particular order.
With that said...
Yes the only three worth a mention.
Heres a question
Who on that list comes close to the three I mentioned?
well first off baldimor KO'd gatti
carlos baldomir
miguel cotto
Juan manuel marquez
ricky hatton
chico corrales
zab judah
they all without doubt have a better boxing resume than gatti did
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 12:41 PM
I'm pretty sure castillo do too but I'm not sure off top
Kaeo Seru
09-23-2013, 12:45 PM
Saul Alvarez - Was Picked by the public en masse to be The One to beat Money
Robert Guerrero - Is a really good fighter... when fighting anyone other than Floyd (see Andre Berto)
Miguel Cotto - Landed more punches on Floyd than ANYONE ever has (including Canelo)
Victor Ortiz - was a good prospect but definitely out of his depth
Shane Mosely - A shell of his former self although he did have a few moments of shining brilliance in this fight.. was an Elite fighter in his Prime should've retired years ago
Juan Marquez - Great fighter in 4 fights with Pac he got a Draw, a split Dec, a Maj Dec, and a KO win. but he got completely MAULED by Mayweather. (maybe becuase he came up in Weight to fight floyd??)
Ricky Hatton - was bulldozing all his opponents b4 Floyd
Oscar de la Hoya - while not in his prime still put up a great fight against Money could've been called a draw if you're a fan of ineffective body punching
Carlos Baldomir - was once a good fighter
Zab Judah - was actually beating Floyd in the early rounds but eventually Floyd made some adjustments and pulled out the win. Judah has always been a good fighter but his chin and out of ring antics have diminished him
Shamba Mitchell - Great prospect at one point. got demolished and exposed by Money
Arturo Gatti - World Class fighter. great heart great chin and was shut down by Floyd
Henry Brussles
Phillip N'Dou
Castillo (x2) - many would argue that Castillo was robbed in the Dec of thier 1st fight. that arguement dies in the 2nd. great fighter none-the-less
Jesus Chavez
Diego Corrales - an exciting fighter gave us many lay-it-all-on-the-line fight of the year bouts. got man handled by floyd
I'm not gonna deny that Floyd hand picks his fights. but Who wouldn't. I don't see any of you looking for someone you knOW you can't beat and swinging on him. at the end of the day Boxing is still a BUSINESS so he picks the fights that will bring him the most money. Canelo was picked by the Boxing fans and floyd haters to be the one to end his reign as p4p champ. but he smacked the pup around and exposed him too. Honestly even without the hand [icks i dont see anyone beating floyd. the matches would've been a lot closer like his earlier fights with Castillo and Judah. but by large he still wins.
so who do you think has what it takes to defeat Floyd? lets look at some prospects..
Danny Garcia - unbeaten young and talented. usually the underdog, always wins... BUT do you think he has the experience needed to compete with Floyd? canelo didn't and he was 42-0...
Sergio Martinez - tremendously gifted athlete... was almost KO'd by chavez jr. (lol) well past his prime coming off and an injury that would make him slower and less able to compete with a sharp in shape mayweather.
Adrien Broner - hah!
Timothy Bradley - Lets see if he can get past Marquez first
Pacman - even if he beats Brandon Rios his management wont allow him to fight mayweather.
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 01:00 PM
Saul Alvarez - Was Picked by the public en masse to be The One to beat Money
Robert Guerrero - Is a really good fighter... when fighting anyone other than Floyd (see Andre Berto)
Miguel Cotto - Landed more punches on Floyd than ANYONE ever has (including Canelo)
Victor Ortiz - was a good prospect but definitely out of his depth
Shane Mosely - A shell of his former self although he did have a few moments of shining brilliance in this fight.. was an Elite fighter in his Prime should've retired years ago
Juan Marquez - Great fighter in 4 fights with Pac he got a Draw, a split Dec, a Maj Dec, and a KO win. but he got completely MAULED by Mayweather. (maybe becuase he came up in Weight to fight floyd??)
Ricky Hatton - was bulldozing all his opponents b4 Floyd
Oscar de la Hoya - while not in his prime still put up a great fight against Money could've been called a draw if you're a fan of ineffective body punching
Carlos Baldomir - was once a good fighter
Zab Judah - was actually beating Floyd in the early rounds but eventually Floyd made some adjustments and pulled out the win. Judah has always been a good fighter but his chin and out of ring antics have diminished him
Shamba Mitchell - Great prospect at one point. got demolished and exposed by Money
Arturo Gatti - World Class fighter. great heart great chin and was shut down by Floyd
Henry Brussles
Phillip N'Dou
Castillo (x2) - many would argue that Castillo was robbed in the Dec of thier 1st fight. that arguement dies in the 2nd. great fighter none-the-less
Jesus Chavez
Diego Corrales - an exciting fighter gave us many lay-it-all-on-the-line fight of the year bouts. got man handled by floyd
I'm not gonna deny that Floyd hand picks his fights. but Who wouldn't. I don't see any of you looking for someone you knOW you can't beat and swinging on him. at the end of the day Boxing is still a BUSINESS so he picks the fights that will bring him the most money. Canelo was picked by the Boxing fans and floyd haters to be the one to end his reign as p4p champ. but he smacked the pup around and exposed him too. Honestly even without the hand [icks i dont see anyone beating floyd. the matches would've been a lot closer like his earlier fights with Castillo and Judah. but by large he still wins.
so who do you think has what it takes to defeat Floyd? lets look at some prospects..
Danny Garcia - unbeaten young and talented. usually the underdog, always wins... BUT do you think he has the experience needed to compete with Floyd? canelo didn't and he was 42-0...
Sergio Martinez - tremendously gifted athlete... was almost KO'd by chavez jr. (lol) well past his prime coming off and an injury that would make him slower and less able to compete with a sharp in shape mayweather.
Adrien Broner - hah!
Timothy Bradley - Lets see if he can get past Marquez first
Pacman - even if he beats Brandon Rios his management wont allow him to fight mayweather.
broner wouldn't even accept the offer if it were given to him lol
but I noticed you lacked a summary of Phillip N'dou and Jesus Chavez... you unfamiliar with them?
Witty
09-23-2013, 01:18 PM
You know, while you are all discussing this guy, he has no idea who you are and doesn't care.
This is why I can't get so deep into shit like this, I don't care enough about what he does, or anyone, to dedicate this amount of time talking about him, he isn't sharing his money with me, why would I give a fuck?
I appreciate his talent and will watch his fights, but fuck this arguing about how great another dude may or may not be.
I don't understand most people tbh.
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 01:20 PM
You know, while you are all discussing this guy, he has no idea who you are and doesn't care.
This is why I can't get so deep into shit like this, I don't care enough about what he does, or anyone, to dedicate this amount of time talking about him, he isn't sharing his money with me, why would I give a fuck?
I appreciate his talent and will watch his fights, but fuck this arguing about how great another dude may or may not be.
I don't understand most people tbh.
so you don't watch sports then
what sport does this not happen in?
Witty
09-23-2013, 01:23 PM
I watch sports...and then when the sports are over I continue my life.
I don't give a shit about the individual...I get entertained and then when the entertainment stops, I stop giving a fuck.
I don't idolise any sports person, or musician, or anybody...because I don't see any reason to.
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 01:25 PM
I watch sports...and then when the sports are over I continue my life.
I don't give a shit about the individual...I get entertained and then when the entertainment stops, I stop giving a fuck.
I don't idolise any sports person, or musician, or anybody...because I don't see any reason to.
oh ok I guess
but yea, I debate during the day about my favorite sports.
sometimes I make threads about sports to maybe come across things I never knew or recognized about said sport.
which is what I would like to happen here, but the only person that prolly has anything to say of value is metts
Chyeahhh!!!
09-23-2013, 01:47 PM
wow @ Innovator and the three he listed. What the fluck? Diego, Cotto, Zudah? Shit Cotto alone that man was feared and revered b. He was never the same after Margarito even if Marg cheated. Artemus you sound like you grew up watching wrestling and still think that shit is real. Fluck outta here
Chyeahhh!!!
09-23-2013, 01:48 PM
Zudah was like one of the only dudes who wobbled Mayweater. Zudah is top 5 southpaw in my book even if he is shit now lol
Witty
09-23-2013, 01:52 PM
oh ok I guess
but yea, I debate during the day about my favorite sports.
sometimes I make threads about sports to maybe come across things I never knew or recognized about said sport.
which is what I would like to happen here, but the only person that prolly has anything to say of value is metts
Fair enough, we are all different.
It is what makes the world an interesting and dynamic place.
Do you.
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 02:20 PM
wow @ Innovator and the three he listed. What the fluck? Diego, Cotto, Zudah? Shit Cotto alone that man was feared and revered b. He was never the same after Margarito even if Marg cheated. Artemus you sound like you grew up watching wrestling and still think that shit is real. Fluck outta here
lol ikr dude listed possibly the worst boxer off the list as one of the only ones worth mentioning lls
You know, while you are all discussing this guy, he has no idea who you are and doesn't care.
WHAT!!
Witty
09-23-2013, 02:22 PM
I don't appreciate your sarcasm.
Don't do that again.
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 02:24 PM
honestly, IS gatti the worst on that list??
Witty
09-23-2013, 02:30 PM
I'm not sorry.
Yet.
wow @ Innovator and the three he listed. What the fluck? Diego, Cotto, Zudah? Shit Cotto alone that man was feared and revered b. He was never the same after Margarito even if Marg cheated. Artemus you sound like you grew up watching wrestling and still think that shit is real. Fluck outta here
Gatti is legend
U telling me hold cotto and judah in the same cloth as him?
Come man...all worthy opponents but those three are tops on that list...which was my point
...the Nagger
09-23-2013, 02:45 PM
Gatti is legend
U telling me hold cotto and judah in the same cloth as him?
Come man...all worthy opponents but those three are tops on that list...which was my point
gatti had a legendary trilogy with micky ward
GATTI is not a legend bro
Diode
09-23-2013, 02:48 PM
gatti had a legendary trilogy with micky ward
GATTI is not a legend bro
HATE TO AGREE WITH EDDIE BUT
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