god is made up and religious ppl are lol

[PancakeBrah]

Lol

[Wise Wiggles]

Lol

[Ghost1]

Lol

[PancakeBrah]

Lol

[Zen]

Lol

[Dominate]

roflz!

did i do it rite?

[Ghost1]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_i2lbUB0w7X8/THXUcxEH6FI/AAAAAAAAAJc/LZHsMeT77AQ/s320/combo-breaker-2.jpg

[Dominate]

lmao

there is definite penetration happening there

[Frank Metts]

I was thinking about writing a topical on this called glass ceiling ... I mean once a religon hit its peak then denominations start to break off and claim they have subtle differences etc etc

Christianity has now become and umbrella term even though it was once under the Judaism umbrella before they decided to break away ...

But everyone believes in something even if that something is nothing ... hell even scientology swears by an alien named xenu or some shit ... funny it was founded by a science fiction writer

[veritas]

Foolishness overload.

Pancake did your father teach you to think this way?

[veritas]

I was thinking about writing a topical on this called glass ceiling ... I mean once a religon hit its peak then denominations start to break off and claim they have subtle differences etc etc

Christianity has now become and umbrella term even though it was once under the Judaism umbrella before they decided to break away ...

But everyone believes in something even if that something is nothing ... hell even scientology swears by an alien named xenu or some shit ... funny it was founded by a science fiction writer


Denomination means different. Denominations are killing the Christian church today.

[TYSON]

Blasphemy

[Frank Metts]

Denomination means different. Denominations are killing the Christian church today.

I know I was raised Catholic ... but at the end of the day the 6 or 7 culturally excepted denominations under Christianity have very few major differences but a lot of minor shit .. they just interpret small parts of the holy bible differently and church settings are different ...

[TYSON]

Why is it so easy to believe a big bang from out of nowhere created everything?

[Sho Money EMG]

Ay I look at it this way, if were possible, anythings possible.

Something will just always be mysterious in this world. U don't have to have an answer for everything. I was raised a catholic aswell, but I keep my mid open for numerous possibilities

[Masaii]

Pancake doing religion trolls now?

Log off for a while.

[TYSON]

Its good to have a balance between science and religion

[PancakeBrah]

lol

[Dominate]

chortle

[Dominate]

snicker

[Dominate]

gaffaw

[veritas]

lol

[Frank Metts]

Denomination means different. Denominations are killing the Christian church today.

I know I was raised Catholic ... but at the end of the day the 6 or 7 culturally excepted denominations under Christianity have very few major differences but a lot of minor shit .. they just interpret small parts of the holy bible differently and church settings are different ...

[PancakeBrah]

lol

[Dominate]

***kle

[Dominate]

hee-haw

[Dominate]

titter

[uh-oh]

lol

[veritas]

I know I was raised Catholic ... but at the end of the day the 6 or 7 culturally excepted denominations under Christianity have very few major differences but a lot of minor shit .. they just interpret small parts of the holy bible differently and church settings are different ...

I was ra9sed catholic as well...thank god I saw the light.

Catholicism has killed more christians than world communism.



I have much to say about this.

[Dominate]

chuckle

[Dominate]

giggle

[Dominate]

... damn I've run out


lol

[Destroyer]

opiate for the masses
a tool to power
nothing more

[uh-oh]

... damn I've run out


lol

guffaw

[Dominate]

Did that one on page 1

[Destroyer]

yeah but da gawd spelled it right

[dull boy]

It's not creationism, or the concept most people take issue with. It's the type of creationism that's widely accepted. It's beyond moronic. I consider myself agnostic, but it's easier to say atheist, because most people see atheism as a denial of 'God', which is more inline with my beliefs, because common understandings and ideas of God are completely hilarious, to me. Doesn't mean that creationism is out of the realm of possibility. I'm not expert on advanced scientific theory, or space, but a simple look into available information on religion, science and history make it clear that common religions are ridiculous, and what we 'know' is rarely ever absolute.

[veritas]

One of you fools please tell me how thinking this way actually benefits your life?

[PancakeBrah]

lol

[Untold]

God is either everything or God is nothing.

What is your choice to be?

[uh-oh]

One of you fools please tell me how thinking this way actually benefits your life?

the same way that believing in it benefits you?

you tell yourself that god and jesus or whatever is real, you don't worry and your a good person.

i tell myself i don't know, and i'll never know, so who cares?

we both arrive at the same destination. and that is not paying attention to the fact we are hurdling through space on a rock with some life in an infinite universe

[Masaii]

http://www.overcomingbias.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/pascalwager.jpeg

[Dominate]

yeah but da gawd spelled it right

Yes. I have shamed myself. No more lulz in my heart today.

[Destroyer]

Pascal's wager is garbage.
I don't really feel like typing it all out, but yeah, it's bullshit
god is a concept by which we measure our pain

[Destroyer]

Pascal's wager is garbage.
I don't really feel like typing it all out, but yeah, it's bullshit
god is a concept by which we measure our pain

[PancakeBrah]

lol

[Masaii]

How is it garbage? Please do explain because logic would indicate otherwise.

[Dominate]

you can't choose to believe

you do or you don't

therefore Pascal can suck a dick

[Ghost1]

Pancake doing religion trolls now?

Log off for a while.

Identifies troll thread.

Proceeds to being trolled.

[veritas]

One of you fools please tell me how thinking this way actually benefits your life?

[Masaii]

Identifies troll thread.

Proceeds to being trolled.

I was just thinking that.

I saw the snare and kept walking. lol.

[Destroyer]

http://i.imgur.com/aVoSI.jpg

[Ghost1]

Lol

[Destroyer]

look masaii, Here's the problem with pascal's wager: he says that if you bet that there is a god in life, and it turns out that there isn't you lose nothing. In reality, you lose everything, because you've just based your only life on the presumption that a fake thing exists, and trying to please that fake thing.

[TYSON]

Peep avy...he is coming

[Zen]

look masaii, Here's the problem with pascal's wager: he says that if you bet that there is a god in life, and it turns out that there isn't you lose nothing. In reality, you lose everything, because you've just based your only life on the presumption that a fake thing exists, and trying to please that fake thing.
This.

[Masaii]

Destroyer

thats wrong though obviously made by someone who hasnt cross read multiple doctrines.

It even states in the Qur'an

2:62

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

And even so your graph doesn't raise any argument it just added more religions to the graph which illustrates the same point.

[Destroyer]

yeah, that's why I typed out my argument

[Masaii]

look masaii, Here's the problem with pascal's wager: he says that if you bet that there is a god in life, and it turns out that there isn't you lose nothing. In reality, you lose everything, because you've just based your only life on the presumption that a fake thing exists, and trying to please that fake thing.

I see what you're saying, so you mean it places restrictions on your life because you dont perform certain actions for fear of punishment from God?

This isn't true IMO. The Bible is a morale compass, it doesn't forbid good things like swimming in a pool and eating berrys lol, it forbids immoral acts that I dont perform anyway regardless of religion (except for sex before marriage which is pretty standard for todays society). Its made me a better man compared to the dickhead I was in High School so at the end of the day whats so bad? I dont preach the Bible to anyone or try to convert people, I keep to myself about it.


People like the Westborough Baptist Church are terrible though, they ruin the religions image.

[PancakeBrah]

lol

[veritas]

So how has not beliveing helped any of you?

[Dominate]

by allowing me to live my life according to my own moral compass rather than 2 millennium old dogma

[DLB]

i stopped believing in a "God" but i believe there's something up there or around the world. the same shit that can get you into "hell" can get you into "heaven" and the Bible just sounds stupid imo. i read that shit at age 4, thought it was dumb. been reading lots of encyclopedias and etc since and the concept of a "god" still sounds dumb to me 14 yrs later but people act like you can't have an opinion on religion

[veritas]

by allowing me to live my life according to my own moral compass rather than 2 millennium old dogma

And how is your life?

[Dominate]

And how is your life?

It's great.

[Destroyer]

it's ok V, you'll get there

[Zen]

What if you were a devout follower if god, whether Muslim, Christian, or Jewish and you got to the afterlife and found out Krishna or Zeus or any other god was the real god? Wouldn't that be some shit.
Or what if in the afterlife all gods exist and they each have their own territories and the Christian god's territory was like a trailer park and everyone else had mansions?

Idk I'm just drunk.

[veritas]

it's ok V, you'll get there

So being a middle age pothead is yiur definiton of a wonderful life free of the chains of God!??



Wow!

[Hush]

So being a middle age pothead is yiur definiton of a wonderful life free of the chains of God!??



Wow!

And being a internet weirdo is your idea of the life of a pious man of god?

Pussy

[veritas]

Exactly. I am a sinner like you. That is why I need jesus.

[NYCSPITZ]

^^^ actually hush has got u there veritas

[NYCSPITZ]

religions are living things which are constantly growing and evolving. People feel as if there is some axiomatic, rigid, unyielding truth to their particular sect but the fact of the matter is there is a positive and negative to all of these beliefs. To be sure, the heaven/hell concept is ludicrous and obviously why more than 95% of all somewhat intelligent people don't believe in that nonsense. What happened according to scholars like D.T. Suzuki is that the concepts extolled by religious leaders became overshadowed by the awe felt by that religious leader's following. This continued for centuries until eventually the inane notion that the leader was god incarnate came to be. It's happened time and time again with thousands of religions throughout human history. If a Christian rapist repents he goes to heaven but a good atheist doesn't he goes to hell? Lol, obvious bullshit. Anyways, I bet it's either eternal sleep or we leave our bodies and experience a different dimension.

[veritas]

^^^ actually hush has got u there veritas

No he doesnt. Not if you get oast the clicheness of his argument.

[PancakeBrah]

lol

[Eŋg]

i am a theist - not atheist - who sometimes does not believe in God

(rather; i forget)

but has God believe in him.

so it's ok.

i always want to punch people when they mention Dawkins, also. there's this kid in the class i just started and it's inevitable that i end up being his dentist. sry prestigious institution that shouldn't have accepted me.

[veritas]

religions are living things which are constantly growing and evolving. People feel as if there is some axiomatic, rigid, unyielding truth to their particular sect but the fact of the matter is there is a positive and negative to all of these beliefs. To be sure, the heaven/hell concept is ludicrous and obviously why more than 95% of all somewhat intelligent people don't believe in that nonsense. What happened according to scholars like D.T. Suzuki is that the concepts extolled by religious leaders became overshadowed by the awe felt by that religious leader's following. This continued for centuries until eventually the inane notion that the leader was god incarnate came to be. It's happened time and time again with thousands of religions throughout human history. If a Christian rapist repents he goes to heaven but a good atheist doesn't he goes to hell? Lol, obvious bullshit. Anyways, I bet it's either eternal sleep or we leave our bodies and experience a different dimension.

Its not bulkshit. You must understsnd jesus.

[TYSON]

Why would he let u in his kingdom if u refused to acknowledge him? A rapist repenting is more of a heart thing to me. God knows our heart and we are judged from that. Just cause a rapist has made an earthly repent does not mean he has achieved repentance thru god. That's going to take a lot of sacrifice. Imo

[veritas]

Why would he let u in his kingdom if u refused to ackowledge him? A rapist repenting is more of a heart thing to me. God knows our heart and we are judged from that. Just cause a rapist has made an earthly repent does not mean he has achieved repentance thru god. That's going to take a lot of sacrifice. Imo

And thus we must ubderstand jesus.

[TYSON]

Yes

[Split]

I think that when you die, your consciousness fades away into nothing. You lose all your memories, characteristics, hopes, dreams, thoughts, feelings, electrical impulses... you cease to exist.

I feel like the fact that you, me, or anyone else has experienced consciousness on a human/ animal level is pretty insane... like the summation of all your neurons, chemical imbalances and brain cells happen to be labelled as you.

And that same idea is applied to every living thing that makes decisions, there is really an insane amount of life force out there. And by life force I just mean electrical signals generated by organisms.

So I mean, when you faded into consciousness at two years old, if you remember it.. what were you before? A smaller collection of synapses? More fragmented memories? More simple neural byproducts?



Idk... people get WAY too hung up on the idea of clinging to life. And if you spend your life as an existential mess, trying not to waste every second, or believing that it has already all gone to waste, then no doubt your life is gonna be shit.

And there's no saying what happens to life when it's gone. If death is entirely cellular, or metaphysical. Those two ideas contradict each other on so many levels.

Religion, philosophy, spirituality, are all efforts by people to stablilize their life and thinking and frame life in a way that lets them live it. I don't think that is dumb. If you have to leave a light on in the hall in order to fall asleep, maybe you should do that, and maybe people should realize it doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things. Or maybe not, and you just shouldnt take life so seriously it needs a frame of reference for you to bear living in it.

If you have to believe in God/ religious texts in order to live your life the way you want, then you should do that... people spreading religion are just trying to spread peace of mind.

And if you believe in God cos of undeniable proof that you have witnesses or something, that's legit too. I'm not gonna ridicule it out of you lol.


Either way... I'm not qualified to say if there is a god or driving force/ external starting point to our universe. I'd live my life pretty much the same way either way. And my thoughts on birth and death would stay the same.

[veritas]

Lets all break character for minute and have an honest discussion


Is anyone willing to admit that they are a sinner?

[Destroyer]

you have to believe in sin to believe in sinners, V
I don't believe in sin. I believe in actions. positive or negative, all with repercussions, but none that are being tallied for some future trial scenario.

[veritas]

So in your opinion sin does not matter correct jude?

[Destroyer]

no, I do not believe it exists in reality other than in concept
to say that it doesn't matter, admits it exists

[veritas]

Fair enough...i ubderstand your view point.Have you reached all of your goals in life?

[Destroyer]

I never will reach all my goals in life
but praying to a god or walking around all sorrowful because I'm some imperfect being who is destined to fuck up always is not going to bring me any closer to those goals.
don't get me wrong, if it does something for you, great. I'm not against people using religion as a tool to better their lives, so long as they keep it to themselves.

[veritas]

what is stopping you from reaching all of your goals in life?

[Wise Wiggles]

Have you ever witnessed a miracle ? I have.

Nothing special imo.

[Destroyer]

the fact that I have an ever-growing list of goals

[PancakeBrah]

Lol

[veritas]

des: do you have any regrets in this life?

[Geno]

Blahahahahahajikfosdfjjwisz

[Geno]

Veritas. I need a shrink man. Gonna need a phone session with you bro. Real life shit

@veritas

[NYCSPITZ]

i can't tell whether veritas and tyson are trolling or if they actually believe Jeus sturned a loaf of bread into 8 million fish and that a homocidal jealous god that killed everyone with a massive flood and brought grimey plagues upon babies is a loving entity

[veritas]

Veritas. I need a shrink man. Gonna need a phone session with you bro. Real life shit

@veritas

6019173913

I have a meeting at 1400 cst....after that I will be in office.

[Zen]

Veritas I'm curious to actually call you and see if you are anything like how you are on here. I'm not saying who you are on here is a bad thing, just curious to see if this is a persona.

[veritas]

Veritas I'm curious to actually call you and see if you are anything like how you are on here. I'm not saying who you are on here is a bad thing, just curious to see if this is a persona.

I am in the office until roughly 145 cst. you can holler at me.

[TYSON]

i can't tell whether veritas and tyson are trolling or if they actually believe Jeus sturned a loaf of bread into 8 million fish and that a homocidal jealous god that killed everyone with a massive flood and brought grimey plagues upon babies is a loving entity

No troll never been good at it any