'Stan' is the best rap single released in my lifetime.

[PancakeBrah]

1988.

Discuss.

[Neighbor]

But Pan, try to understand
That I do want you as a fan

[PancakeBrah]

You're a great swag and flow writer, a good battler, and you coast on personality for boarding rep. It's all love, though.

[PancakeBrah]

'A Milli' is close, though.

[Neighbor]

*kisses*

But on a serious note, I think "Sing For The Moment" is probably the best rap single of our generation

[Certain]

The best rap track ever was released as a single in your lifetime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-X3TqY-Df8

But for commercial appeal, I go with OutKast always.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drsQLEU0N1Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVyVIsvQoaE

[Untold]

i hate even admitting this, but Nas's Illmatic is his best work, EVER.

[PancakeBrah]

CERTAIN YOU FAGGOTORIUM, I'M TALKING ABOUT POPULAR SINGLES.

I should edit the title to say 'popular' or 'well heard' or 'well known' or 'mainstream' singles.

Now that I think of it, BOB is up there too.

I hate to be that dude, but late 90's hip hop was so fucking dope. And I know I'm just saying that because I grew up on it. There will be text boards in 2020 opining for the glory days of Macklemore and ASAP.

[PancakeBrah]

i hate even admitting this, but Nas's Illmatic is his best work, EVER.

...

that's...


your sentence is weird...


because everyone....

recognizes. that.

[Certain]

Andre 3000's verse on "B.O.B." makes me want to run through a wall and never write another rap verse again.

[Untold]

oh good LORD Outkast is the best hip-hop duo EVER

[PancakeBrah]

*kisses*

But on a serious note, I think "Sing For The Moment" is probably the best rap single of our generation

For real, though?

'Sing for the Moment' is a good song. 'Stan' is a great song that actually became popular as fuck. Can't see that, bro.

[Untold]

...

that's...


your sentence is weird...


because everyone....

recognizes. that.

its just sad.. nothing ever came close to that

[Zen]

Andre 3000's verse on "B.O.B." makes me want to run through a wall and never write another rap verse again.
This. It makes me sick that he's so fucking good.

[Certain]

Untold must be one of those people who never got to talk about rap with his friends growing up because they all liked Regina Spektor instead.

[Untold]

Untold must be one of those people who never got to talk about rap with his friends growing up because they all liked Regina Spektor instead.

true. all this is true

[PancakeBrah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Uhn-dU3Gg

If you don't get hype as fuck when this comes on and can't repeat every word to this song when it comes on I can't hang with you. Fucking insane.

[PancakeBrah]

Andre 3000's verse on "B.O.B." makes me want to run through a wall and never write another rap verse again.

People think B.O.B. caused the internet era and shit. Good, no great, song. But it's not OutKast's Top 3 singles with effect in my life, though. The video did a lot to help, too.

[Untold]

A Milli was raw but i don't know if it was one of the best songs to me

i'll have to look back at this a few years from now

[Certain]

People think B.O.B. caused the internet era and shit. Good, no great, song. But it's not OutKast's Top 3 singles with effect in my life, though. The video did a lot to help, too.

I think it's pretty obvious Eminem made Internet rap a thing. There's no question the titular Stan posted at RapMusic.com.

I can see what you mean about "B.O.B." My favorite OutKast songs are "Synthesizer," "Rosa Parks" and "Babylon." But "B.O.B." is pretty fucking perfect.

[PancakeBrah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaFygeknae8

I impressed my HS sweetheart by keeping up with Andre's flow.

LOL BITCH DIN'T EVEN KNOW I HAD MULTI'S ON DECK

[PancakeBrah]

I think it's pretty obvious Eminem made Internet rap a thing. There's no question the titular Stan posted at RapMusic.com.

No, there's a critical movement that says B.O.B signifies the incoming internet revolution. A legitimate one. It's weird. Pitchfork is weird. Critics are weird.

[Certain]

Pitchfork named "B.O.B." the best song of the 2000s. The most-shouted part of the song is Andre 3000 screaming "ONE NINE NINE NINE." He screamed that because the song was about 1999.

Pitchfork is weird.

[DLB]

pan lost me at a milli

[PancakeBrah]

I'm reslistening to 'Stan' on repeat for a nostalgia trip and can't believe this was a hit. You don't hear something like this anymore. He captures his own self and the zeitgeist of the time and his own self awareness so perfectly. I was a rap obsessed white kid back in the day. I heart'ed OutKast, and respected them more than anything justvtrying to be cool. And they're still my go to rap. But Eminem was a gateway, arguably the strongest mainstream lyricist in his prime. And he captured everything about his paradigm in a half third person song and made it a fucking chart topper/

[PancakeBrah]

pan lost me at a milli

I'll ride for A Milli. Always and forever. That's a good song bruv.

[Certain]

I think Busta Rhymes called "A Milli" the best beat he'd ever heard.

[DLB]

A Milli was the most simple beat ever lmaoooooooooooooo

shit was ok when it came out, but it is nowhere near top songs, let alone top lil wayne songs. mainstream, singles, etc, nah

[PancakeBrah]

Let's talk about the best OutKast songs. Here's my drunk as fuck top 5

#1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW-9eOPAWdA

#2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CssC-DY4lO8

#3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wl3rM3AlC0

#4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc89T_KPNWc

#5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIsFDvyLGEk

They're the best rap ever had to offer. Period.

[oats]

I always loved aquemini, as both a song and album. Em's genius is oft forgotten in light of his recent settlement of sober mediocrity. Dmx isn't getting mentioned in this thread, and that's a shame. Amg>pitchfork all day every day.


That is all.

[Certain]

Favorite OutKast songs:

1. "Synthesizer"
2. "Rosa Parks"
3. "B.O.B."
4. "ATLiens"
5. "Babylon"

[Witty]

I was thinking this a few days ago.

Shit's a work of art.

[oats]

I like outkast, never really loved them though. Never heard a song of theirs I didn't like though. Also, play Roses in any bar in America and people will start moving their feet.

Now back to DMX. Heavily underrated. Discuss.

[Witty]

Agreed.

[Certain]

I like outkast, never really loved them though. Never heard a song of theirs I didn't like though. Also, play Roses in any bar in America and people will start moving their feet.

Now back to DMX. Heavily underrated. Discuss.

"Roses" might be the worst single OutKast ever released. It's not horrible, but it's not up to their normal standards.

DMX was good in the late-1990s, then he let himself become a complete caricature as the Ruff Ryders started to blow up. It's Dark and Hell is Hot is very good, but he got a little worse with each successive album.

[oats]

Certain I liked it better than hey ya personally, but most critics tend to laude hey ya as one of their most phenomenal songs so idk.

As for dmx, I agree with you. It's not that his albums got worse, it's that they never changed. He released rehashed versions of the same album over and over. Still yet, X was the shit.

[Certain]

I think he played up the yelling and (especially and painfully) the barking and dumbed down his lyrics.

[oats]

You don't know who he be

[Pent uP]

I can name several rakim tracka better wtf

[Ghost1]

6 foot 7 foot is better then a milli


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ClFw-ekZ08

and this is obv the correct answer to the OP^^^^^

[Mike Wrecka]

6 foot 7 foot is better then a milli


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ClFw-ekZ08

and this is obv the correct answer to the OP^^^^^

I immediately thought of Triumph

or Biggie Smalls Juicy

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCYy8jpp7R8


and Stan wasn't even Eminems best song so wtf

[PancakeBrah]

It's just my opinion guys why are being so mean with wtf's and stuff

[Certain]

"Juicy" is a great call.

[uh-oh]

word to juicy

the only outkast song worth mentioning is elevators and mrs jackson lmao

and so fresh and so clean lol

i dunno i dont get the outkast love. i like there hits, could care less for there back catalog

[Witty]

I don't think Juicy is as good as most seem to think it is.

Never understood what was so great about it, it is a cool song...but nothing more than that imo.

I think Biggie alone had better songs than Juicy

[Split]

oh good LORD Outkast is the best hip-hop duo EVER

Black Star is. it's close, though.

[PancakeBrah]

lol no way dude bro

you're way wrong and stuff

[uh-oh]

MOP

THE MASH OUT POSSE

RUGGED NEVA SMOOTH

M FUCKIN
O FUCKIN
P ON THE MOVE

[uh-oh]

but nah the greatest duo ever was mobb deep

anything else is wrong

[Wise Wiggles]

and stuff

[Certain]

OutKast is the best rap duo ever, and it's not close. If you broaden the term to group, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest and The Roots can get in and make it interesting.

Mobb Deep was nowhere near as consistent as OutKast.

[uh-oh]

mobb deep>

[Certain]

Mobb Deep made one classic album, The Infamous ..., and one really good album, Hell on Earth. The rest were all over the place. Prodigy's solo stuff has been good, but if that counts, then you get OutKast's solo stuff, which includes a near-classic in Sir Lucious Left Foot: Son of Chico Dusty.

[uh-oh]

mobb deep made more songs i like

which means

mobb deep>

[Split]

i laugh at the majority of OutKast's catalog, not in a good way

[PancakeBrah]

Which means you have bad taste. That's all bro. No need to broadcast it and stuff.

[PancakeBrah]

and stuff

y u do dis

[uh-oh]

i laugh at the majority of OutKast's catalog, not in a good way

i just could never get into it

dont like there styles. whenever someone tries to put 3000 in disusssions as one of the greats i wanna stab them

its just not good to me personally. but i've always favored grimey east coast shit

outkast is like its own genre. and its a genre i dont like lol

[Split]

hey Cake. that's you on that album cover. that is what you look like. looking like a no muscle having, skeleton face having alcoholic.


boom.

[Certain]

i just could never get into it

dont like there styles. whenever someone tries to put 3000 in disusssions as one of the greats i wanna stab them

its just not good to me personally. but i've always favored grimey east coast shit

outkast is like its own genre. and its a genre i dont like lol

The word "greatest" is very different from the word "favorite." Leaving aside personal taste, you hopefully are reasonable enough to admit that OutKast had a much greater influence on rap and music in general and also produced more popular and more critically acclaimed work than Mobb Deep.

If you can't, then this is like getting into a Kendrick Lamar conversation with God of War.

[PancakeBrah]

hey Cake. that's you on that album cover. that is what you look like. looking like a no muscle having, skeleton face having alcoholic.


boom.

i lol'ed because i didn't lol.

want to have a pose off itt???

[Split]

uh-oh is saying OutKast didn't have very much influence in the Northeastish part of the country, I think.

I remember hearing Hey Ya until I didn't like that song anymore. and Roses. Ms. Jackson is still sick.

but people didnt bump OutKast outside the radio top 40, it wasnt a thing here.

[Certain]

uh-oh is saying OutKast didn't have very much influence in the Northeastish part of the country, I think.

I remember hearing Hey Ya until I didn't like that song anymore. and Roses. Ms. Jackson is still sick.

but people didnt bump OutKast outside the radio top 40, it wasnt a thing here.

I'm from Queens.

If you don't think the South and OutKast in particular had a huge influence on rap everywhere, particularly from a production standpoint, then you're ignorant.

[uh-oh]

outkast was never relevant here. no one i know listens to outkast. i only find people who like them online.

i missed out on them because of that. i dug the fuck out of there singles lmao. so fresh and so clean when the drums kick in and the song drops i still smile. ms jackson is a classic hip hop song to me. elevators is my favorite song from them

but word i can't even quote one outkast couplet. just aint me

i will say that i see them get love all the time online. i don't understand it. with other people i get it. even if i dont like it.

goodie mob got more love than outkast here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuWB9Nhoypw

[Split]

I'm ignorant

[Certain]

It's OK.

[Split]

you're an enabler

[uh-oh]

i forgot about intl players anthem tho

shit goes hardddddddddd

that willie hutch sample

killin em

[Certain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G0Uos-Le9M

[Strikta]

Goodie Mob got more love in the DC/MD area as well.. but I found that the Eastern Shore of MD had a buncha heads that grew up listening to Outkast more than GM.

I mean, of course we all heard their classics get overplayed on the radio.. but Outkast wasn't a big thing where I grew up. Everybody jumped on Goodie Mob tho.. & tho they're dope, I only really fucked w/ Black Ice.

Outkast was/is prominent in Illinois for some reason tho.. apparently they were huge out here in the 90's & they're highly respected & regarded today.

For me, in the 90s, No Limit Records was the south.. & I had like every album. It actually was my favorite music ever to listen to when I was in middle/high school.. lol I still have alot of da tank's shit today matta of fact.

But yeah Outkast didn't have a big influence in my area.

[uh-oh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G0Uos-Le9M

that is terrible

noise

not good hip hop.

the production and etc. i had to turn it off

[Certain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXSWwsrSZ9o

[Certain]

that is terrible

noise

not good hip hop.

the production and etc. i had to turn it off

Do you think that was accidental, like they forgot to turn the levels right in the studio?

[uh-oh]

i think if it was on purpose it makes it worse lol

we usually agree on most hip hop discussions. i can't get into outkast tho

[Frank Metts]

I hated a milli ... the beat was raw as fuck but cot damn it ended being grandmothers ringtones and shit

Stan is a legit contender

Biggie big poppa/juicy/hypnotize/

Nas if I ruled the world

Wu triumph could take the cake

Geto boys mind playing tricks

Outkast miss jackson



Nelly country grammar

Warren g regulate

Coolio gangstas paradise

Kanye jesus walks

Will Smith summertime

Dmx slippin

Tribe scenario

Nuthin but a g thang

2pac dear mama

Just some of the top that impacted my life when I first heard them

[Fart]

I dont know which is the best single in the generation but Em dominated it. I would like to argue Beastie's No Sleep Til Brooklyn

[Untold]

Goodie Mob got more love in the DC/MD area as well.. but I found that the Eastern Shore of MD had a buncha heads that grew up listening to Outkast more than GM.

I mean, of course we all heard their classics get overplayed on the radio.. but Outkast wasn't a big thing where I grew up. Everybody jumped on Goodie Mob tho.. & tho they're dope, I only really fucked w/ Black Ice.

Outkast was/is prominent in Illinois for some reason tho.. apparently they were huge out here in the 90's & they're highly respected & regarded today.

For me, in the 90s, No Limit Records was the south.. & I had like every album. It actually was my favorite music ever to listen to when I was in middle/high school.. lol I still have alot of da tank's shit today matta of fact.

But yeah Outkast didn't have a big influence in my area.
What Strikta said is the truth. I grew up in New Orleans and you couldn't go anywhere without having or hearing a No Limit Records album.

Fiend
Big Ed the Assassin
Mystikal
C-Murder
Silk the Shocker
Master P

Fuck, half the reason crack had a reemergence in that era is because of Ghetto D. The fucking first track of the album gives you step by step instructions on how to cook crack cocain... Man, that was my fucking shit

I still have a lot of those albums and will continue to buy them whenever I see them available. There like collector's items.

[Ghost1]

Bros. Remember when i won the thread by posting the triumph? K.

[DLB]

Nas - One Mic

u cannot fight that song's power

[dull boy]

HE EVEN LIKE YOU MORE THAN I DO

[oats]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdGieRfzB2Y


WINNER

[Untold]

^wow this takes me back to the days of napster

[oats]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiOcVWQY2bc


this is actually the real winner. love Stan but this is arguably GOAT rap song

[Untold]

when they reminisce over you, my GAWG