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ill nik-A
10-07-2013, 02:38 PM
Are these the Aesop rock type?

Paradigm
10-07-2013, 02:40 PM
lol wat

ill nik-A
10-07-2013, 02:45 PM
They got picked on for liking rap and so they figured nerdy rap is ok

veritas
10-07-2013, 02:45 PM
define racist?

ill nik-A
10-07-2013, 02:50 PM
Pancake a coward who spews hate on a race behind his keyboard but would get knocked out irl

Diode
10-07-2013, 02:50 PM
agree w/ nik

things have been going a little farther than usual

when dlb does it, it's one thing, but now you've got a bunch of suburban white dudes joining the fray and dropping stupid shit a lot more frequently

REAL LIFE
10-07-2013, 02:51 PM
Pancake a coward who spews hate on a race behind his keyboard but would get knocked out irl

TRUTH.

anime_boners
10-07-2013, 03:04 PM
the typical Aesop fan is your open minded hippy liberal type

about as far from racist as it gets -__-

but I do agree the race trolling is at all time highs and it's very corny

DLB
10-07-2013, 03:23 PM
im not even being racist, i say most where that fits when it comes to shit that relates to my race that i know is true.

like most black dudes who dont fuck w/ black girls dont because of childhood and what they see. most black girls are the up in your face, powerful, agressive girls w/ a soft backstory to why they are this way. they try to dominate and most black dudes see that as kids and are like "that bitch crazy". most domestic violence cases start w/ an act of a woman who thinks they are invincible or a dude who feels they've lost power, both are very very common in majority black neighborhoods

TYSON
10-07-2013, 03:32 PM
The thing about u death is u are quick to bash your own race and praise the others that I'd what makes u an uncle tom bro. No bashing just stating a fact. U are candylands head house nigger. Which I just seen last night great movie. Lots of respect on the django movie set IMO...

PancakeBrah
10-07-2013, 03:33 PM
Lol we have a Hispanic person with a username nika calling people racist.

I love the internet

ill nik-A
10-07-2013, 03:34 PM
Lol we have a Hispanic person with a username nika calling people racist.

I love the internet

See how stupid u are? It's nik-A not nikka

Wow u are a dumb honkey

REAL LIFE
10-07-2013, 03:37 PM
The thing about u death is u are quick to bash your own race and praise the others that I'd what makes u an uncle tom bro. No bashing just stating a fact. U are candylands head house nigger. Which I just seen last night great movie. Lots of respect on the django movie set IMO...

THIS IS WHAT HOLDS YOUR PEOPLE BACK IN ME.

ill nik-A
10-07-2013, 03:38 PM
See how rhyming big words don't make u smart cake lolz

anime_boners
10-07-2013, 03:40 PM
regardless of nikka or nik-a

hispanic dudes always had a pass to say nigga, shit most white dudes got a pass to say that shit now a days even. it's 2013.. if a white dude says "you my nigga" and you get butthurt about it you need to grow up.

but there is a lot of actual racist shit said on this board.

TYSON
10-07-2013, 03:41 PM
THIS IS WHAT HOLDS YOUR PEOPLE BACK IN ME.

Will not succumb to your troll. Good day.

PancakeBrah
10-07-2013, 03:41 PM
I agree. It needs to stop.

ill nik-A
10-07-2013, 03:42 PM
Fact, I say nigga always in front of whomever

veritas
10-07-2013, 03:43 PM
Will not succumb to your troll. Good day.

real life does not troll Tyson, and you even thinking that reveals how mentally ill you are, as well as how intellectually bankrupt you continue to be.

ill nik-A
10-07-2013, 03:45 PM
Lol what a hypocritical donkey

What a stupid motherfucker hahahaha

ill nik-A
10-07-2013, 03:45 PM
Racists should be handled

DLB
10-07-2013, 03:46 PM
The thing about u death is u are quick to bash your own race and praise the others that I'd what makes u an uncle tom bro. No bashing just stating a fact. U are candylands head house nigger. Which I just seen last night great movie. Lots of respect on the django movie set IMO...

nah

im not w/ promoting ignorance and degrading my race as "progressing" it. i gt white friends who are "blacker" than me out here doing "nigga shit". u just stereotyped your own race if you read that last sentence and thought of my homies as some hoodlums or thugs and thats how 100% of ppl will read it. being black stopped progressing once the civil rights shit ended and thats where that one episode of the Boondocks where MLK comes back to life comes to place. Son would think all that fighting for rights was for nothing.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 03:48 PM
Death when you openly chastise your own race without ever pointing out anything good or being an example that makes you a chuck & jiver dance for mr. White man Uncle Tom. I don't care about the race trolling though because this is a forum. Only color I care about is green.

DLB
10-07-2013, 03:49 PM
if u respond to any racial comment like you're offended, you're a pussy.

i laugh at being called a nigger or porch monkey irl. words stopped effecting me once i turned 4 and read the bible. once i did, i realized words arent shit

DLB
10-07-2013, 03:53 PM
Death when you openly chastise your own race without ever pointing out anything good or being an example that makes you a chuck & jiver dance for mr. White man Uncle Tom. I don't care about the race trolling though because this is a forum. Only color I care about is green.

no

u just cant accept the fact we wont ever progress as ppl. just like i cant carry the NBL to promise, i cant carry our race to promise g, africans got fucked over, african americans got a chance to make $$$$ as much as any white man in 2013. but cheap money in short time >>>> lots of money in a long term. rap is an easy example populated by mostly black ppl

King Karaoke
10-07-2013, 03:54 PM
Hi...

Thank you for making this thread sir...
This site is lame now...

Bye...

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 03:59 PM
no

u just cant accept the fact we wont ever progress as ppl. just like i cant carry the NBL to promise, i cant carry our race to promise g, africans got fucked over, african americans got a chance to make $$$$ as much as any white man in 2013. but cheap money in short time >>>> lots of money in a long term. rap is an easy example populated by mostly black ppl

Blacks have progressed tremendously. Look at our president. Only thing I care about is will my money progress and will I continue to help those I care for.

I can tell your small minded and a feeble pessimistic.

Convo over.

DLB
10-07-2013, 04:09 PM
Blacks have progressed tremendously. Look at our president. Only thing I care about is will my money progress and will I continue to help those I care for.

I can tell your small minded and a feeble pessimistic.

Convo over.

Obama's not even a remotely good president and most ppl voted for him cause of race.

u are also a poor lil Bow Wow lookin ass nigga w/ no proof u have $$$ so give up that persona

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 04:12 PM
Right bc I have to prove to an Internet board I'm loaded.

Idc how Obama is as a president the fact that he's president speaks volumes. There was a time he could never have been voted president bc of his race. That's progress. Had to touch on that. But now you're dismissed.

DLB
10-07-2013, 04:15 PM
Right bc I have to prove to an Internet board I'm loaded.

Idc how Obama is as a president the fact that he's president speaks volume. There was a time he could never have been voted president bc of his race. That's progress. Had to touch on that. But now you're dismissed.

it just proves u are ignorant and ppl vote for nonsensical shit just to "progress". obama is half white but u cant acknowledge that, hes not the 1st mixed president.

and stop bragging about shit u cant prove. dlb is black and smart as fuck, with extended knowledge on lots of stuff and i can prove it b, u cant prove your $$$$$$

Zen
10-07-2013, 04:15 PM
I lol'd at people calling death an Uncle Tom for trying to better himself. Death knows what he's talking about. The sad thing is most black kids are raised with the fuck the white man mindset and rebel instead of learning to use the system to their advantage. Forreal. It's 2013 and the fact there's still racism is pretty pathetic. Grow up.

veritas
10-07-2013, 04:15 PM
time to pump the brakes again...

EEEEEERT....

THE FACT THAT A WHITE PERSON CANNOT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE HOLDS BLACK PEOPLE BACK. THE FACT THAT IF A BLACK PERSON SAYS ANYTING NEGATIVE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE GETS CALLED AN UNCLE TOM BY BLACK PEOPLE IS ALSO KEEPING BLACK PEOPLE ON THE BOTTOM.

FIX THIS.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 04:18 PM
it just proves u are ignorant and ppl vote for nonsensical shit just to "progress". obama is half white but u cant acknowledge that, hes not the 1st mixed president.

and stop bragging about shit u cant prove. dlb is black and smart as fuck, with extended knowledge on lots of stuff and i can prove it b, u cant prove your $$$$$$

Ok I'll engage again lol.

I don't brag on my money I just state facts.

Obama is half white sure but he's half black which as you know makes him black.

Anything else?

TYSON
10-07-2013, 04:19 PM
No when all he has to say about his own race is negative makes him an uncle tom.....

Is this not getting thru yet?

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 04:21 PM
time to pump the brakes again...

EEEEEERT....

THE FACT THAT A WHITE PERSON CANNOT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE HOLDS BLACK PEOPLE BACK. THE FACT THAT IF A BLACK PERSON SAYS ANYTING NEGATIVE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE GETS CALLED AN UNCLE TOM BY BLACK PEOPLE IS ALSO KEEPING BLACK PEOPLE ON THE BOTTOM.

FIX THIS.


White people say negative things about black people all the time. Blacks aren't being held back we're progressing. You're on a forum that promotes what black ingenious created. There are more black millionaires today than there ever were.

I could buy you. Blacks are progressing and always will so stop the shit.

Dominate
10-07-2013, 04:25 PM
I agree. It's gotten particularly foul lately

veritas
10-07-2013, 04:25 PM
White people say negative things about black people all the time. Blacks aren't being held back we're progressing. You're on a forum that promotes what black ingenious created. There are more black millionaires today than there ever were.

I could buy you. Blacks are progressing and always will so stop the shit.

blacks are progressing? by getting butthurt when white people call them out on their bull by calling them racists? blacks are progressing? by calling other blacks who call them on their bull uncle toms? cmon son..... blacks have been on the bottom for years and it is their own fault they stay there because of the afore mentioned reasons. also weak leaders, people like you, who only care about their own wealth at the expense of everyone else below them. you got all that money? whens the last time you gave to charity? when is the last ghetto youth you mentored?


and for real, you could never buy me. I would murder you, not becuase you are black, but because you are a wicked sub-human with no soul.

veritas
10-07-2013, 04:26 PM
No when all he has to say about his own race is negative makes him an uncle tom.....

Is this not getting thru yet?

it is. but all he has done is keep it real. you continually race bait and act like a racist. Tyson YOU are the problem with your race, NOT death. real talk. you are just too blind and indoctrinated to see that.

TYSON
10-07-2013, 04:27 PM
If all they have to say is negative about their own race is negative then yes he is an uncle tom...

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 04:27 PM
Blacks are progressing. I would know.

End of story.

DLB
10-07-2013, 04:28 PM
name some positive shit then tyson and if it truly is a positive, ill concur

and nah aero, that makes him as white as he is black

i have said black ppl are mostly athletically gifted but cant read the contracts and black girls have what most men want in a girl but they carry themselves like an open package. they are usually very good at dancing tbh and lots have beautiful REAL hair but u dont know lots of black girls w/o weave in 2013. we are content w/ this shit? im not

Diode
10-07-2013, 04:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niP07kbZMiU

don't invite cake over for dinner.

veritas
10-07-2013, 04:30 PM
lol wrong. you, if your are telling the truth, is part of the problem. White peole want to see all white people do well. those at the top of black people profit off of their own people's suffering.

98 percent of blacks vote democrat. democrat consistently perpetrates wellfare and governmental dependence. blacks are slaves to the government now.

surely you agree?

TYSON
10-07-2013, 04:31 PM
it is. but all he has done is keep it real. you continually race bait and act like a racist. Tyson YOU are the problem with your race, NOT death. real talk. you are just too blind and indoctrinated to see that.

A racist married to a white woman....

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 04:31 PM
name some positive shit then tyson and if it truly is a positive, ill concur

and nah aero, that makes him as white as he is black

i have said black ppl are mostly athletically gifted but cant read the contracts and black girls have what most men want in a girl but they carry themselves like an open package. they are usually very good at dancing tbh and lots have beautiful REAL hair but u dont know lots of black girls w/o weave in 2013. we are content w/ this shit? im not

Okay soooo is there anything negative you'd like to say about any other race/ethnicity you know to even it out? Start with white

DLB
10-07-2013, 04:33 PM
BET promotes the ignorance of black ppl now. it stopped being a channel promoting black unity and shit, its just a channel to turn to when u wanna see what ignorant shit is happening in culture. that shit's owned by a bunch of white ppl who think they know how to progress black ppl and lots of the African American youth watch that, I used to. that's just stupid

Diode
10-07-2013, 04:35 PM
A racist married to a white woman....

"I have a white friend"

".. and a mixed baby i use to lure parents into letting me watch their kids so i can molest them" - TYSON

PancakeBrah
10-07-2013, 04:38 PM
I'm not racist.

TYSON
10-07-2013, 04:39 PM
"I have a white friend"

".. and a mixed baby i use to lure parents into letting me watch their kids so i can molest them" - TYSON

Do u see what I mean diode? U constantly want my attention!!!!

TYSON
10-07-2013, 04:40 PM
BET promotes the ignorance of black ppl now. it stopped being a channel promoting black unity and shit, its just a channel to turn to when u wanna see what ignorant shit is happening in culture. that shit's owned by a bunch of white ppl who think they know how to progress black ppl and lots of the African American youth watch that, I used to. that's just stupid

Because its not black owned anymore they sold it to some Asians or something.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 04:42 PM
I don't care about racism or people claiming not to be racist. If you're poor and you're racist what effect does your racism have cuz you sure aren't hiring anyone. It's discrimination at the top that can be harmful but excellence gets you in the door.

DLB
10-07-2013, 04:42 PM
Okay soooo is there anything negative you'd like to say about any other race/ethnicity you know to even it out? Start with white

some white ppl are trying to be hip now to be "friendly w/ blacks" cause some fear us tbh most white ppl that own businesses are hypocrites and manipulating bastards. pop culture etc usually refers to the white man but its more focused on minority races now. pop music is washed down and dominated w/ cheapskates that are usually white or black. white ppl usually are stereotyped as wealthy but ppl take it like they all have $$$$ & some white females attempt to be ghetto whether behind closed doors or in front of their friends, seemingly as an attempt to get jabs in at black girls through mockery tbh

Diode
10-07-2013, 04:43 PM
Do u see what I mean diode? U constantly want my attention!!!!

nah i just dont want anyone to ever forget that on november 22nd, 2005 you molested a 12 year old girl under your care in the back of your house

uh-oh
10-07-2013, 04:44 PM
i check 106 and park once every 6 months or so

i always come away thinking

is this real life?

Ghost1
10-07-2013, 04:44 PM
The whitemans problem is we let black people bully us with racism.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 04:45 PM
The whitemans problem is we let black people bully us with racism.

Bro you're a dirty Italian. A dago.

veritas
10-07-2013, 04:46 PM
A racist married to a white woman....

that means nothing. and only adds to the confusion of your mental character. on one hand you are progressive, and yet your words betray you.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 04:46 PM
i check 106 and park once every 6 months or so

i always come away thinking

is this real life?

No it's entertainment. Real life is the fact that you live paycheck to paycheck.

PancakeBrah
10-07-2013, 04:48 PM
Bro you're a dirty Italian. A dago.

Diode
10-07-2013, 04:51 PM
Bro you're a dirty Italian. A dago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM

TYSON
10-07-2013, 04:57 PM
that means nothing. and only adds to the confusion of your mental character. on one hand you are progressive, and yet your words betray you.

How do my words betray me? I have never said any racist remarks unless u count bringing racist white folks down a notch.

veritas
10-07-2013, 04:58 PM
How do my words betray me? I have never said any racist remarks unless u count bringing racist white folks down a notch.

by calling Death an uncle tom. by calling white people racists when they said something negative about blacks.

think about it homey.

Zen
10-07-2013, 05:04 PM
Tyson you really are being racist against your own people. You're like that black cop on boyz n tha hood. If trying to better yourself makes you an Uncle Tom then what makes you a good black man?

DLB
10-07-2013, 05:09 PM
real recognize real

TYSON
10-07-2013, 05:11 PM
Lol yall are idiots bro If u think bashing his own race is suppose to mean he is bettering his self.

veritas
10-07-2013, 05:12 PM
Good point at zen

Thats the other thing black leaders get to decide who is *black* black is no longer a color itbis a way of thought....which happens to be your leaders profiting from your votes.


And death...no boubt.

veritas
10-07-2013, 05:13 PM
Lol yall are idiots bro If u think bashing his own race is suppose to mean he is bettering his self.

Dude...how is he bashing it? He was just keeping it real and you called him an uncle tom bc you are a mental slave to a busted race baiting agenda driven mental ideology.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 05:15 PM
If you're a single man making under $75k a year you might as well call yourself black imo bc you don't have any distinct advantages so let's kill the talk.

Malachi
10-07-2013, 05:17 PM
i just basically skimmed through this thread.

Disgusting

DLB
10-07-2013, 05:19 PM
malachi, best advice for u, get a voice for yourself b. u like 14, dont follow, be a leader

TYSON
10-07-2013, 05:20 PM
This is going nowhere.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 05:22 PM
Dude...how is he bashing it? He was just keeping it real and you called him an uncle tom bc you are a mental slave to a busted race baiting agenda driven mental ideology.

Shouldn't you be more focused on why you can't advance in whatever it is that you do? You don't make a lot of money why are you talking? You're not at the pinnacle, you don't put in 80 hr weeks, you can't buy your mom a car, you don't do shit but troll here. Lol pathetic. IMO you're black bc you go through the same struggles.

You're a nigger.

DLB
10-07-2013, 05:23 PM
dontroll

its cause u cant accept the truth. we could have a legit debate but u dudes like kids on here so i sink to your lvl cause it amuses me.

veritas
10-07-2013, 05:26 PM
Shouldn't you be more focused on why you can't advance in whatever it is that you do? You don't make a lot of money why are you talking? You're not at the pinnacle, you don't put in 80 hr weeks, you can't buy your mom a car, you don't do shit but troll here. Lol pathetic. IMO you're black bc you go through the same struggles.

You're a nigger.

I would rather be a nigger than a liar.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 05:27 PM
I would rather be a nigger than a liar.

I'd rather be a liar than broke.

Cha Ching!

PancakeBrah
10-07-2013, 05:27 PM
you can't buy your mom a car, you don't do shit but troll here. Lol pathetic.

....

TYSON
10-07-2013, 05:28 PM
Do u death. I have spoke my mind. This has no effect on my life anyway.

veritas
10-07-2013, 05:29 PM
Shouldn't you be more focused on why you can't advance in whatever it is that you do? You don't make a lot of money why are you talking? You're not at the pinnacle, you don't put in 80 hr weeks, you can't buy your mom a car, you don't do shit but troll here. Lol pathetic. IMO you're black bc you go through the same struggles.

You're a nigger.

and let me tell you one more thing on the real tip. I live my life so that the work I do affords me the life that I want. the love of money means nothing to me. I am content. Who I am outside of my work is who I really am, husband and father. Also the work I do is my calling and passion so it is not work at all. I am sure all the lies you have to make up about a life that you live which you think is success is tiresome.

real talk some of the doctors I work with take so many on call days that they have no time to spend their "hard earned" money...jsut saying. you are far too wordly Aero. you are a dirt person and a liar.

uh-oh
10-07-2013, 05:29 PM
No it's entertainment. Real life is the fact that you live paycheck to paycheck.

lol got me

DONT UNDERSTAND THE ANGST THO

WE BOTH SCHWOOGIES ACCORDING TO YOU DAWG

veritas
10-07-2013, 05:29 PM
Do u death. I have spoke my mind. This has no effect on my life anyway.

you are so close...yet so far. dang man.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 05:32 PM
and let me tell you one more thing on the real tip. I live my life so that the work I do affords me the life that I want. the love of money means nothing to me. I am content. Who I am outside of my work is who I really am, husband and father. Also the work I do is my calling and passion so it is not work at all. I am sure all the lies you have to make up about a life that you live which you think is success is tiresome.

real talk some of the doctors I work with take so many on call days that they have no time to spend their "hard earned" money...jsut saying. you are far too wordly Aero. you are a dirt person and a liar.

Tell your wife I said hello.

veritas
10-07-2013, 05:34 PM
You are a dirt person
You are a sub human
You are a liar

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 05:37 PM
You are a dirt person
You are a sub human
You are a liar

& you're hideous. Your wife deserves a man who can take her on that vacation she's always dreamed of.

DLB
10-07-2013, 05:41 PM
lil bow wow called someone else hideous. son look like he benchwarmed for the little monsters in space jam saying another nigga hideous lmaoooooo aero not the GOAT of anything

TYSON
10-07-2013, 05:43 PM
and let me tell you one more thing on the real tip. I live my life so that the work I do affords me the life that I want. the love of money means nothing to me. I am content. Who I am outside of my work is who I really am, husband and father. Also the work I do is my calling and passion so it is not work at all. I am sure all the lies you have to make up about a life that you live which you think is success is tiresome.

real talk some of the doctors I work with take so many on call days that they have no time to spend their "hard earned" money...jsut saying. you are far too wordly Aero. you are a dirt person and a liar.

This is the first noble thing I have ever seen u say.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 05:43 PM
Unrofls

veritas
10-07-2013, 05:44 PM
& you're hideous. Your wife deserves a man who can take her on that vacation she's always dreamed of.

you are a liar. you are a liar. you are a liar.


hush is greater than you.

veritas
10-07-2013, 05:44 PM
This is the first noble thing I have ever seen u say.

you will find that I am not such a bad guy bro.

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 05:45 PM
Okay so that just got weird.

Next

Frank Metts
10-07-2013, 08:23 PM
and let me tell you one more thing on the real tip. I live my life so that the work I do affords me the life that I want. the love of money means nothing to me. I am content. Who I am outside of my work is who I really am, husband and father. Also the work I do is my calling and passion so it is not work at all. I am sure all the lies you have to make up about a life that you live which you think is success is tiresome.

real talk some of the doctors I work with take so many on call days that they have no time to spend their "hard earned" money...jsut saying. you are far too wordly Aero. you are a dirt person and a liar.

So how come when we had are debate and I said something to this manner it wasn't good enough? I don't doubt you I've actually told you I liked you and yes I've started pointless arguments with you because you have good rebuttals and it's fun sometimes but I digress

How come my position in life was unacceptable ?

Hush
10-07-2013, 08:31 PM
Y'all niggas acting gay

Beyond
10-07-2013, 09:23 PM
It's not that Death and Veritas are good trolls, it's that Aero and Tyson are easy to troll.

veritas
10-07-2013, 09:25 PM
So how come when we had are debate and I said something to this manner it wasn't good enough? I don't doubt you I've actually told you I liked you and yes I've started pointless arguments with you because you have good rebuttals and it's fun sometimes but I digress

How come my position in life was unacceptable ?

What were my exact words franklin?

veritas
10-07-2013, 09:25 PM
It's not that Death and Veritas are good trolls, it's that Aero and Tyson are easy to troll.

I am not a troll

Beyond
10-07-2013, 09:35 PM
I'd believe that if you seemed like a retard, but you're obviously intelligent, so trolling it is.

Frank Metts
10-07-2013, 09:46 PM
What were my exact words franklin?

Verbatim ? I'm not sure but it had something to do with me not liking my position in life and my pay scale etc etc

StarFaggot
10-07-2013, 10:24 PM
It's not that Death and Veritas are good trolls, it's that Aero and Tyson are easy to troll.

I'm not easy to troll bc I love it. So does Tyson lol. Beyond ur easy to troll bc you care.

DLB
10-07-2013, 10:28 PM
beyond, get a life

aero, get a race

frank, get a clue

Beyond
10-07-2013, 10:35 PM
I'm not easy to troll bc I love it. So does Tyson lol. Beyond ur easy to troll bc you care.

If I cared, I would be vehemently arguing my views in every race thread that comes about, which has been 2384923842 lately.

Just trying to help a brother out. No need to get defensive, nigga.

veritas
10-07-2013, 11:10 PM
Verbatim ? I'm not sure but it had something to do with me not liking my position in life and my pay scale etc etc

How fascinating....