Lesbians...

[e11even]

I just had a random thought... cuz I'm very random.


Most may say that the idea of lesbians are against social norms. But a lot of them are actually subconsciously trying to fit in with them. I'll explain:

In an average lesbian relationship you have femmes and butches. What's the point of being a lesbian if you immitate a man and a woman? Is it some
kind of subconscious hardwired programming?? Are you really lesbian or just infinitely curious? Pardon my bluntness.

I was just posing this argument to myself and decided to share. I'm bored.

[Split]

some people hate the feeling like gender roles define them, itd probably get wicked bad if you were into other chicks, too

[DLB]

lesbians are the biggest attention whores too yo

bigger than straight females

they love pussy as much as you but they do all that shit just to remind you that they do

[e11even]

interesting. one of my exes is supposedly full on gay... but i'm still convinced that after 10 yrs, she still wants the D.

[TYSON]

Good point on the op. I never got it if u gonna use dildos why not get the real thing. That's why I think 75% of lesbians are really bi. Yes I have meet some lesbians who are really disgusted by men. A lot where sexually abused tho. And this is crazy shit but my lesbian homegurl said most lesbians don't even watch lesbian porn, they watch male gay porn. Very confusing.

[DLB]

yo TYSON, u ain't grow up into today's generation tho

these bitches go "lesbian" and "bi" in middle school/high school just cause a nigga treated them like shit smh

[e11even]

Good point on the op. I never got it if u gonna use dildos why not get the real thing. That's why I think 75% of lesbians are really bi. Yes I have meet some lesbians who are really disgusted by men. A lot where sexually abused tho. And this is crazy shit but my lesbian homegurl said most lesbians don't even watch lesbian porn, they watch male gay porn. Very confusing.

yo TYSON, u ain't grow up into today's generation tho

these bitches go "lesbian" and "bi" in middle school/high school just cause a nigga treated them like shit smh

True, and true. These females are abused and
confused. My ex was abused by her uncle, so there's
that. But she waited a long time to cross over. I never
got to ask her about it. And as far as bi goes, I respect
a bi over everything cuz at least you know she straddles
the line.

see wat I did there? Nvm.

[Masaii]

I think the real question here is: are lesbians lesbians because of daddy issues?

[Beyond]

Being gay is a choice, none of them were born lesbian.

A lot were indeed abused and to touch on what DLB said earlier, some alpha(s) shit on their soul and they are no longer interested in men because of that.

TYSON the reason they don't watch lesbian porn is because it's designed to stimulate straight men, not lesbian women. I mean think about it, lesbian porn is considered 'straight' because it is to straight males and are in straight searches. Most lesbians aren't turned on by lesbian porn because of that. Gay porn is different. Gay porn is not designed for straight men, it's geared towards gay men. So I guess it arouses them more because it's done how lesbian porn for lesbians should be done.

[DLB]

tbh i can't fuck with a girl that isn't "strictly straight" yo

most bi chicks'll fuck around on some hoe shit and most won't let a 3some happen, real talk. these "bi" chicks will fuck every bitch if it's just them but u try, they'll say u cheatin or some dumb shit. also, bi chicks are annoying as fuck to date/fuck with if u ain't got the perfect one tbh. been there, done it w/ a chick that supposedly ate a bitch out/fingered/scissored/dry humped another girl before i ever dated her

[Frank Metts]

Being gay is a choice, none of them were born lesbian.

A lot were indeed abused and to touch on what DLB said earlier, some alpha(s) shit on their soul and they are no longer interested in men because of that.

TYSON the reason they don't watch lesbian porn is because it's designed to stimulate straight men, not lesbian women. I mean think about it, lesbian porn is considered 'straight' because it is to straight males and are in straight searches. Most lesbians aren't turned on by lesbian porn because of that. Gay porn is different. Gay porn is not designed for straight men, it's geared towards gay men. So I guess it arouses them more because it's done how lesbian porn for lesbians should be done.

Aye aye bey bey

Some people are born gay ... It's how their wired, theirs a part of your brain called the Limbic system that helps determines all that stuff ... some people are traumatized into the role, some people are institutionalized in that role and some do it just to fit in somewhere ( this is more for women ) and others are just curious ...

Some of y'all need to sit through an LGBTQ training class.

I can blame a women for wanting to be a lesbian, on one hand you have and beautiful creature known as a women, soft, smooth, tender, literally gods gift to man and on the other you have a hot sweaty hairy extra rib having fart box known as a man.

Women get hurt easy, esp white women, sorry to all my snow bunnies at their but it's true ... They have an option other then man that's more exceptable in society... In college most dorms are separated by gender and that's were a lot of bi curious shit happens because your institutionilized ... A lot of rape happens in college too unfortunately which is another point I made. Women are also more open about it, men tend to hide it longer ... The avg gay person won't come out of the closet until their middle college years.

Think about the rules parents made for you as kids and probably early teens, most probably couldn't have girls in their room and vice versa... Guys are like fuck it me and my homies will finger bang bitches on the bench at the local baseball field... Girls are like fuck it I'll make out with this girl in my room because I've been curious about it ... Their more open about confused feelings as well ... Probably weren't allowed to date till a certain age etc etc so you can see the cycle but those who were truly interested in the opposite sex found away around those rules


People are people man, their ever evolving ... Think about how many men and women died unhappy up until the hippy movement because they had these feelings of homosexuality but it was so unethical to be gay they just conformed to societies standards and live a " normal " life.


And those butch women you speak of are actually called transgender meaning their Brain has always made them feel more like a man then women which is a whole other issue in itself and the women who date them 9 times out of 10 are the traumatized ones whom still seek the comfort of a man but are disgusted by a mans touch so much they'd rather find a women whom looks like a man

[Badweather]

My roommate is a butch lesbian. She realized she was gay in grade school. It's very interesting. I'm glad I didn't have to go through what she went through.

[Adonis]

I'm a lesbian with a dick

Hope that helps clear shit up

[Bodey]

Thank you frank metts. Why would someone "choose" to be gay. You cannot help who you fall in love with. That why its called soulmates. The whole perception that a girl thinks they switched teams is cuz of sexual abuse isn't actually true. Cuz why would some others not switch? My best friend got abused by her grandfather for 7 years and after 5 years of therapy and healing, she is proudly engaged to a man. that kind of abuse causes distrust in all human beings, not just a specific gender- once you're betrayed by your own family or someone close. I'm friends with gays both males and females and as far as the females go who "switched teams", some of them don't even consider themselves gay. They'd been with guys all their lives and then one day got close to one of their girlfriends and it unexpectedly grew from there. They fell in love with the person, not the fact that she was a girl. Hererosexuals are born wired a certain way just as homosexuals are. Girl on girl relationships are also a lot more intimate, not sexually but in understanding one another's emotions and I guess being more delicate than say an average guy would. I used to think gay and straight was cut an dry but the more people I meet who open up to it I think it's more involved than that. It can't be a choice if someone is crying and wishing they weren't what they were, ya know what I mean.

[veritas]

It is impossible to say you are born gay. That is logically impossible. It is a choice.

I will grant that there may be a genetic predisposition like schitzophrenia....but it is still a choice.

[Adonis]

It is impossible to say you are born gay. That is logically impossible. It is a choice.

I will grant that there may be a genetic predisposition like schitzophrenia....but it is still a choice.

I always believed this

But growing up, one of my best friends had a little brother, I knew him between the ages of 5-8, he was always really feminine. We never teased him about it or anything, well once he hit freshman year or so he came out the closet. He was clearly born gay, cuz his bro said even when he was younger he was just feminine, born that way

sure he made a choice somewhere down the line, all i'm saying is it's possible he was just born feminine and gravitated towards male touch to offset that shit

[TYSON]

tbh i can't fuck with a girl that isn't "strictly straight" yo

most bi chicks'll fuck around on some hoe shit and most won't let a 3some happen, real talk. these "bi" chicks will fuck every bitch if it's just them but u try, they'll say u cheatin or some dumb shit. also, bi chicks are annoying as fuck to date/fuck with if u ain't got the perfect one tbh. been there, done it w/ a chick that supposedly ate a bitch out/fingered/scissored/dry humped another girl before i ever dated her

I don't like agreeing with u. But this is true. I've talked to my wife about this cause she had an lesbian experience in her life time like 90% of all females have. We was joking around about threesomes and I was like if u want let's do it but u know I'm gon be eating her pussy and fucking her, right? From there it went down hill cause she wasn't having that . And tbh if it did happen then I would probably keep fucking the bitch without her too. If u single or not in a serious relationship then its fine but if u are serious then it is a bad move.

[DLB]

I don't like agreeing with u. But this is true. I've talked to my wife about this cause she had an lesbian experience in her life time like 90% of all females have. We was joking around about threesomes and I was like if u want let's do it but u know I'm gon be eating her pussy and fucking her, right? From there it went down hill cause she wasn't having that . And tbh if it did happen then I would probably keep fucking the bitch without her too. If u single or not in a serious relationship then its fine but if u are serious then it is a bad move.

exactly, like bitches do this shit all the time. they'll be on some experimental shit then basically try to fuck you over, like "nah it dont work out like that" "its not cheating when me and her did it" etc thats why i dont fuck w/ bi/lesbian chicks. most are just attention whores and eyecandy. & for some reason, even talking to them bitches about their experience w/ other girls, they act all secretive at first, usually. lol i have no patience for any chick

[e11even]

My argument wasn't a debate on why people turn gay, but why the residual similarity in
relationship roles exists. My ex is a more modern lesbian, she has dated butch types, but it seems like
she's drawn to other hipster types like herself. Or maybe she IS the butch? *gasp* holy shit.

Some girls claiming to be bi and are attention whores are the ones actual lesbians hate. I saw an interview/study where a group of lesbians said they hate when party girls run around kissing lesbians and making out, but aren't actually gay. Its like the equivalent of a girl being a cocktease to a guy. Kinda fucked up actually. I know some people are clearly wired a certain way from birth, but someghing snaps in others that may make them wanna choose the same sex. Most gay guys I've met seemed to have been that way their entire life. Most gay women I've met seemed to either have been "recruited" or decided to switch. I only know of one girl that was actually visibly gay since elementary. That was my homie.

[Frank Metts]

It is impossible to say you are born gay. That is logically impossible. It is a choice.

I will grant that there may be a genetic predisposition like schitzophrenia....but it is still a choice.

A genetic predisposition, you said it yourself homie ... It is not a choice who you are attracted to, you can force yourself to be attracted to someone if you feel it's the right thing to do... But if your hormones start going crazy while brad Pitt is doing a shower scene you don't choose that, that's your body telling you that's what you like

That's like saying two gay men adopt a male baby and just because that baby was raised by those men he can choose to also like men or him being gay was a learned behavior

Honestly the thought of being with another man makes me sick to my stomach, but I'm not against it for those that are homosexual... I didn't choose to not like men in a homosexual fashion my body told me I liked women. I couldn't chose to like a man if I wanted to. And if you say you can then your either bi curious or a closet homosexual

Very clear point here , I've known this dude Kenny since I was 4, he was always more feminine then the other boys and talked like a stereotypical gay man would .. Normal household mother and father, he didn't choose to talk like that or act feminine, that's what he felt was comfortable to him, that's who he was born to be. Of course he didn't come out till right after graduation but we already knew he was gay and have since like we knew what gay was.

Like I said before trauma can cause your brain to force you to not like a certain sex as can being institutionalized.

[DLB]

yo

i know a nigga that acts gay af but he's been in a yr long relationship w/ a chick. and his voice is feminine, he does his hair, etc. we both were in band yo and he dressed weird but son was cool. i think its more of a choice g certain things u cant control like your voice but u pick who u want to be with and what to label yourself as. what u alluded to sounds stereotypical like "cause u do this, u are this". its like saying cause dg dark, shes black when it could be some uncle ruckus type shit. most of the ppl who try to understand why gay ppl have become gay are straight tbh and we throw stereotypes all around. we could ask gay ppl why they are that way if we as a society didnt run them away. i use the term faggot but never had a problem with gays, i use that just as i say nigger. ive seen homosexuals use faggot more than me.

also, u can think back to your childhood and remember doing some gay ass shit, joe probably could too. then either your parents try to tell u its not right to do it on some baby'ing shit or u grew out of it/ that thought.

Frank Metts

[veritas]

A genetic predisposition, you said it yourself homie ... It is not a choice who you are attracted to, you can force yourself to be attracted to someone if you feel it's the right thing to do... But if your hormones start going crazy while brad Pitt is doing a shower scene you don't choose that, that's your body telling you that's what you like

That's like saying two gay men adopt a male baby and just because that baby was raised by those men he can choose to also like men or him being gay was a learned behavior

Honestly the thought of being with another man makes me sick to my stomach, but I'm not against it for those that are homosexual... I didn't choose to not like men in a homosexual fashion my body told me I liked women. I couldn't chose to like a man if I wanted to. And if you say you can then your either bi curious or a closet homosexual

Very clear point here , I've known this dude Kenny since I was 4, he was always more feminine then the other boys and talked like a stereotypical gay man would .. Normal household mother and father, he didn't choose to talk like that or act feminine, that's what he felt was comfortable to him, that's who he was born to be. Of course he didn't come out till right after graduation but we already knew he was gay and have since like we knew what gay was.

Like I said before trauma can cause your brain to force you to not like a certain sex as can being institutionalized.


1. Dispostion brings inclination......but it is still a choice.
2. No one is born gay. No one can remember their first thought about sex. Sexuality is the product of sexual habit....in other words choices.

[Frank Metts]

The choice is who you pick as a partner but in no way shape or form did any of you heterosexuals wake up one day and say " you know what I think I'm going to like females yup that's who I'm going to like "

No no no your instincts that you are born with led you in that direction, I know straight men who act stereotypical gay and when I say stereotypical I'm referring to what some white knuckle alabamian would see as not manly activities, soft voices more feminine roles but are straight as well.

It's like saying a hermaphrodite chooses which organ is more dominant in the body, or what they would want to identify as later in life, it's all instinct and you are born with that

You do not choose who or what sex you are attracted to, from the time your born to the time your interested in someone in that way nothing can change in your body that drastically other than trauma that will skew your judgement on who or what your attracted to.

The choice parts comes in on when you want to act on those instincts and that's where your confused... and that's societies fault for making people feel bad about whom their attracted to. But your either born wired to like men, women, both or neither ...

You don't just wake up in your late teens and say you choose to be a homosexual, you wake up in your late teens and say " I'm ready to show the world who I really am " avg age someone comes out is 19... For obvious reasons

Most gay men have had sex with a female, most teen pregnancy are actually girls who identify themselves as a lesbian or bisexual but either are abusing substances or trying to fit in with society and are careless.

[Bodey]

thank you frank, thank you thank you thank you. EXACTLY

[Inno]

I always believed this

But growing up, one of my best friends had a little brother, I knew him between the ages of 5-8, he was always really feminine. We never teased him about it or anything, well once he hit freshman year or so he came out the closet. He was clearly born gay, cuz his bro said even when he was younger he was just feminine, born that way

sure he made a choice somewhere down the line, all i'm saying is it's possible he was just born feminine and gravitated towards male touch to offset that shit

This is true.

One of my boys I grew up with was like that.

Obviously at 8 he wasnt having gay sex..but low and be hold
10 years later he came out the closet.

He wasn't crazy.
Both his parents.
Never got abused.

He was just feminine.

Now on the other side.

I have a homie righr now who is mad feminine. ..I mean the nigga
Wheres skinny jeans, wierd piercings, talks load and very feminine.
Hand jestures and all...

And this nigga is the biggest pimp I know...nigga fucks a different girl
Every week...every week hes got a new one.

So yeah explain that.

[MMLRLK]

Now on the other side.

I have a homie righr now who is mad feminine. ..I mean the nigga
Wheres skinny jeans, wierd piercings, talks load and very feminine.
Hand jestures and all...

And this nigga is the biggest pimp I know...nigga fucks a different girl
Every week...every week hes got a new one.

So yeah explain that.



wait for him to come outta the closet lol. seriously tho i knew 2 dudes like this in college, always feminine & suspect but mac'd on all types of bitches. slay'd hoes left n right. then one day they came out like 'suprise bitches' lmao

& ya people r def born gay or more feminine/masculine whatever. i know this lil boy thats like 3/4 with a dad thats part of a biker gang (so u could say dudes masculine) & the kid loves walkin round with a purse, tryin on his moms high heels, wants to be called tootsie roll all the time or some gay shit like that. i think thats proof enough