*ITT: I will tell you what defense mechanism(s) you frequently use, and possibly why you use them*

[veritas]

GO:

[Rawn MD]

I laugh at ppl when they get mad at me

It's not really intentional

N it pisses the fuck out ppl who are already mad

If I don't laugh I at least have like an evil smirk

[Diode]

I laugh at ppl when they get mad at me

It's not really intentional

N it pisses the fuck out ppl who are already mad

If I don't laugh I at least have like an evil smirk

READS TITLE

READS RAWN'S REPLY

...

[Rawn MD]

Lol I missed the whole I will tell

Oh well

Truth tho

[veritas]

RAWN MD

* Denial
* Acting out
* Compartmentalization
* Reaction Formation (your most significant)
* Intellectualization
* Compensation ( also very prominent)

I would explain to you why these are you...but off course you already know why. No rawnmo.

[Swerve]

Yes, please.

Thanks.

[veritas]

Yes, please.

Thanks.


Swerve:

*compartmentalization
*acting out

the way you act here is no where near the way you act INREALLIFE

[Witty]

Which do I use a defense mechanism and which do I use to make you think it is a defense mechanism?

[dead man]

I am interested in your response

[TYSON]

...

[veritas]

I am interested in your response


DEAD MAN:

*intellectualizatin
*projection
*sublimation
*compartmentalization

one needs only study your words to see this.

[veritas]

...


TYSON:

*Denial
*Reaction formation
*Repression
*Supression
*Compensation

[Fig]

Me please thanks

[dead man]

Fair. Can you explain to me in detail why each of these apply to the words I post?

[Witty]

How come you skipped me?

I'm hurt.

[veritas]

Fair. Can you explain to me in detail why each of these apply to the words I post?

*intellectualizatin
you often overanalyze emotions that you have and discard them or allow them to exist only after a healthy dose of intellectual explanation.


*projection

sometimes when you are writing "to your audience" it is painfully obvious that you are looking at the mirror and calling it a window.


*sublimation

the scattered mind of your real life is easily made de-anxious through writing on a forum where people like and respect you.

*compartmentalization

the voice you have in open mics and those topics exist in their own compartment of your brain, which does not always see the light of day in real life.

[veritas]

Me please thanks


FIG

*acting out
*Regression

[veritas]

Which do I use a defense mechanism and which do I use to make you think it is a defense mechanism?

WITTY

*Denial
*Regression
*Acting out
*Projection
*undoing
*compensation
*assertiveness

[Witty]

3 are correct

[dead man]

Mostly legitimate which is impressive enough given how little direct interaction we have.

You've given me much to think about..

[Witty]

Which is actually quite impressive considering it is based on how I post on here.

Well done.

[Vulgar]

intresstin'

[Certain]

OK, you've piqued my interest.

[veritas]

Mostly legitimate which is impressive enough given how little direct interaction we have.

You've given me much to think about..

salutes. as my pay send me bars for us to collaborate upon, have some direct contact. no homo.

[veritas]

Which is actually quite impressive considering it is based on how I post on here.

Well done.


you mean 4 right?

[Swerve]

Swerve:

*compartmentalization
*acting out

the way you act here is no where near the way you act INREALLIFE

Untrue. I am as genuine as they get.

I call farce on you, false prophet.

[detour]

GO:

I just dismiss people I don't agree with as either uninformed, genuinely of a different line of reasoning, or Internet trolls...

[veritas]

intresstin'

VULGAR:

*compartmentalization
*Suppresion
*Displacement
*Intellectualization
*Rationalization
*sublimation

[veritas]

Untrue. I am as genuine as they get.

I call farce on you, false prophet.

*Adds Denial

[veritas]

I just dismiss people I don't agree with as either uninformed, genuinely of a different line of reasoning, or Internet trolls...

Would you like me to touch you?

[veritas]

OK, you've piqued my interest.

CERTAIN:

*Assertiveness
*rationalization
*compensation

[Witty]

Nah 3.

[Certain]

CERTAIN:

*Assertiveness
*rationalization
*compensation

I'll definitely give you the first two and could maybe agree with the third, but I can't believe you missed intellectualization. That might be my defining personality trait. I guess I don't show it as much here.

[Vulgar]

Thanks

[StarFaggot]

This thread had potential but its vague.

[detour]

Would you like me to touch you?

I'm not a homosexual so no actually I don't want u to touch me...fuckin pervert...

[Swerve]

*Adds Denial

I might give you compartmentalization. But I do not act out and I see no need to act a certain way to entertain the masses of Netcees.

However, I think you can diagnose 99% of people with compartmentalization.

[Strikta]

Wtf

[Zen]

I'm interested in just how fucked up I am.

[Ghost1]

So basicly veritas has about 10 categories and they all pretty much fit anyman that participates on a text rhyme writing internet forum.

Just great work here.

Impressive stuff. Very intelligent.

[veritas]

I'll definitely give you the first two and could maybe agree with the third, but I can't believe you missed intellectualization. That might be my defining personality trait. I guess I don't show it as much here.

yeah man I meant to put it but forgot! my bad. true true.

[veritas]

Nah 3.


you are in denial now.

[veritas]

I'm not a homosexual so no actually I don't want u to touch me...fuckin pervert...

dude...who said anything about homosexuality? may I please tell you what your psyche uses to hide it's true feelings?

[veritas]

I might give you compartmentalization. But I do not act out and I see no need to act a certain way to entertain the masses of Netcees.

However, I think you can diagnose 99% of people with compartmentalization.


no one is perfect. sorry Patrick. I just think the way you are on the board aint how you are in real life.

and yes@99%...but their is compartmentalizing, and then there is COMPARTMENTALIZING...if you catch my drift?

[veritas]

So basicly veritas has about 10 categories and they all pretty much fit anyman that participates on a text rhyme writing internet forum.

Just great work here.

Impressive stuff. Very intelligent.

not necessarily Anthony....I am trying to show patterns....also hopefully going forward with this to prove other points...wait for it.

do you want yours?

[Witty]

you are in denial now.

I saw that coming.

[Split]

RIP blacketh

[Destroyer]

oh please do

[Zen]

Veritas you skipped over me. Does this mean I have no mental disorders?

[Witty]

Veritas you skipped over me. Does this mean I have no mental disorders?

Not possible.

Those drugs have to have done some damage lol

[detour]

dude...who said anything about homosexuality? may I please tell you what your psyche uses to hide it's true feelings?

u asked if u could touch me...nuff said lol...

[Witty]

You think in very simple terms detour

Just because it was said does not mean the implications of what was said were ever actually implied, it is a fictional desire created to make you reply exactly how you are replying.

[Beyond]

Do your worst you behemoth

[Geno]

...ok, sup V?

[Zen]

Not possible.

Those drugs have to have done some damage lol

I'm convinced my drugs have cured them.

Never mind I'm just delusional. Shit...

[NYCSPITZ]

So basicly veritas has about 10 categories and they all pretty much fit anyman that participates on a text rhyme writing internet forum.

Just great work here.

Impressive stuff. Very intelligent.

qfe

[NYCSPITZ]

Do me then I'll do u

[Masaii]

Go ahead, ill tell you if any of it is true to real life

[veritas]

Do your worst you behemoth

*BEYOND*

*denial
*repression
*compensation
*projection

[veritas]

qfe


NYC

*denial
*repression
*reaction formation

[Destroyer]

where's mine doc?

[veritas]

...ok, sup V?


*projection
*sublimation

Maybe more...we shall see.

[Fig]

I don't understand the acting out you put for me

If u could explain that'd be nice

[veritas]

where's mine doc?


JUDE

*DENIAL*
*REACTION FORMATION*
*compensation*

[veritas]

I'm convinced my drugs have cured them.

Never mind I'm just delusional. Shit...

*repression*
*denial*

[veritas]

I don't understand the acting out you put for me

If u could explain that'd be nice

You are trying too hard....

[veritas]

Go ahead, ill tell you if any of it is true to real life

Compensation
Projection
Reaction formation
Sublimation
Intellectualization
Rationalization

[Split]

Veritas dont pick me last for the team
















Again

[veritas]

Split do you want to know?

[Split]

Yes tbinsecure

[NYCSPITZ]

NYC

*denial
*repression
*reaction formation

You have a decent grasp on the basics but you're far from being an expert. I never took a psych class and know more about it than you. here's you:

Illiterate pseudo-scientist prob with a real ugly wife.

Your parents were both strict thus you are a narcissist and tend to view yourself above others. You grew up in the south so you're some permutation of Christian, and your IQ was too low to break through the inculcated magic acts in the bible until you actually started to believe in it verbatim. I'd do more but to be honest your existence is something to be abhorred and I shouldn't have done you this favor.

[PancakeBrah]

v/nyc

[Strikta]

This thread was some shit.

Expected better.

[NYCSPITZ]

bt dubs u r reaction formation and compensation veritas

[Destroyer]

capital letters mean something different?

[Destroyer]

what does that say about me? is that a common set?

[Masaii]

Compensation
Projection
Reaction formation
Sublimation
Intellectualization
Rationalization

id only say rationalization and maybe intellectualization to a small degree tbh

is this bad? lol

[dead man]

lol'ing at people getting defensive about their purported defense mechanisms as if these are anything close to true clinical diagnoses

crazy

[Certain]

lol'ing at people getting defensive about their purported defense mechanisms as if these are anything close to true clinical diagnoses

crazy

Stop projecting.

[Darth Yoda]

where's my diagnosis plz im crzy!!.

NYCSPITZ do me as well.

[Frank]

Yea me 2

Case #5556776

[Sharp]

lol @ the tags

seeing patterns

go for it boss

[Objective]

Go for it.

[Brian Bryan]

why not?

[anime_boners]

me!

[veritas]

Yes tbinsecure

SPLIT 8:

*Compartmentalizing
*Repression
*Projection

[veritas]

Yea me 2

Case #5556776

FRANK:

*Projection
*Reaction Formation
*Intellectualization
*Rationalization

[veritas]

lol @ the tags

seeing patterns

go for it boss


SHARP NINE:


*SEE SPLIT 8

[Zen]

*repression*
*denial*

Could you go more in depth please? Like examples of each so I now how to correct myself.

[veritas]

Go for it.

OBJECTIVE:


*Denial
*Repression
*intellectualizatin
*Rationalization

[veritas]

why not?

BARON/LARS/BRIAN:

*Denial
*Regression
*Acting out : hallway poo
*Compartmentalization
*projection
*Reaction formation
*Repression
*Undoing
*Compensation
*Assertiveness
*Displacement
*Rationalization
*Intellectualization

[veritas]

me!

REED:

*Rationalization
*Regression
*Denial
*Intellectualism
*Sublimation
*Reaction Formation (possibly)

[veritas]

Could you go more in depth please? Like examples of each so I now how to correct myself.

your mind tries to talk to you and you do not listen.....your present and future want to heal with your past.

[Zen]

your mind tries to talk to you and you do not listen.....your present and future want to heal with your past.

This makes sense if you don't think about it. Ill begin healing myself immediately.

[Objective]

OBJECTIVE:


*Denial

How did you come to this conclusion? I've never denied anything regarding my physical/mental health and I've always been up for discussing stuff? What I'm I denying as part of my defense mechanism beside of this thing V? I'm curious.

[veritas]

You have a decent grasp on the basics but you're far from being an expert. I never took a psych class and know more about it than you. here's you:

Illiterate pseudo-scientist prob with a real ugly wife.

Your parents were both strict thus you are a narcissist and tend to view yourself above others. You grew up in the south so you're some permutation of Christian, and your IQ was too low to break through the inculcated magic acts in the bible until you actually started to believe in it verbatim. I'd do more but to be honest your existence is something to be abhorred and I shouldn't have done you this favor.



time to pump brakes kid....EEEEEERRRRRRTTTTT

Thank you for claiming that I have a grasp on the basics, especially since you admit you have never even taken a class, this is high praise coming from psychology's Bobby Fischer (swidt?)

I am illiterate, and the fact that I am able to write sentences that I am unable to read or understand, proves evolution...something coming from nothing randomly for no good reason.

My wife is not ugly as fuck, thank you for guessing though. how exactly is one a psuedo-scientist?

So Bobby...having strict parents makes one a narcissist? Always? everytime? or just me?

I am dirt. you are a dirt person...know the difference.

you are a fool. I pity.

[veritas]

This makes sense if you don't think about it. Ill begin healing myself immediately.

theres that denial we talked about. I love you.

[veritas]

How did you come to this conclusion? I've never denied anything regarding my physical/mental health and I've always been up for discussing stuff? What I'm I denying as part of my defense mechanism beside of this thing V? I'm curious.

you are denying right now. you remember your past don't you? most insomniacs in my experience, have often had a plethora of unresolved issues that the mind brought to their concscious during bed, and it kept them up.

amiright?

[Just C]

I came in here expecting some form of in depth analysis into peoples posting/why they post the way they do.

I read breakdowns so vague they could apply to anyone.. I witnessed a half baked attempt at playing shrink... I left with nothing....Thanks.

[veritas]

I came in here expecting some form of in depth analysis into peoples posting/why they post the way they do.

I read breakdowns so vague they could apply to anyone.. I witnessed a half baked attempt at playing shrink... I left with nothing....Thanks.

hey buddy///

[Just C]

hey buddy///

DEFLECTION*

Am I doing it right?

[Objective]

Most insomniacs in my experience, have often had a plethora of unresolved issues that the mind brought to their concscious during bed, and it kept them up.

amiright?

Absolutely right and I suspected you'd say that I'd deny denial.. But it's rather the suspicion of it actually being false than me being in denial. When it comes down to it and me being awake contemplating my issues along with questions that spawn from existential crisis I often come to conclusions and I've never denied reality or felt out of place beacause of my ''fate'' (if you want to call it that). I understand what these negative experiences has done and I understand the way I've reacted and what has happened due to them. I'm awake because I continue to ponder in order to fully understand what I'm dealing with rather than denying them. What's keeping me up is too much energy and trying to make sure I am a worthy human being that adds to society and life, rather than looking upon myself as a leech to humanity. It's kinda the opposite of denial, if that makes any sense. I just want to progress as a being.

Also; I've been prescribed Vallergan. Seems to be working. I've had a few great nights of sleep due to them.

[Swerve]

We need someone to break down and admit to Veritas diagnoses for this thread to really take life.

[Sharp]

SHARP NINE:


*SEE SPLIT 8

lmaooo

[veritas]

DEFLECTION*

Am I doing it right?


*ERECTION

YES!

[veritas]

We need someone to break down and admit to Veritas diagnoses for this thread to really take life.

See denial.
See repression

[Brian Bryan]

BARON/LARS/BRIAN:

*Denial
*Regression
*Acting out : hallway poo
*Compartmentalization
*projection
*Reaction formation
*Repression
*Undoing
*Compensation
*Assertiveness
*Displacement
*Rationalization
*Intellectualization

does this mean I win because I caught 'em all?

POKEMON MASTER STATUS, YO!

[zygote]

" I am illiterate, and the fact that I am able to write sentences that I am unable to read or understand, proves evolution...something coming from nothing randomly for no good reason. "

Veritas question out of curiosity. You would have studied evolutionary psychology considering it as a framework is present especially within development, neuro and abnormal psychology stuff. How do you address the conflict between your personal beliefs about no evolution and the presence of evolutionary psychology within basically most major fields of psychology in some way?

Also, considering you would have come across evolutionary psychology at some time and read about it, how do you write such a incorrect conceptualization of evolution such as "something coming from nothing randomly for no good reason." Surely, even if you disagree it would be on a specific point and not on such a complete misunderstanding of a basic concept.

[veritas]

Absolutely right and I suspected you'd say that I'd deny denial.. But it's rather the suspicion of it actually being false than me being in denial. When it comes down to it and me being awake contemplating my issues along with questions that spawn from existential crisis I often come to conclusions and I've never denied reality or felt out of place beacause of my ''fate'' (if you want to call it that). I understand what these negative experiences has done and I understand the way I've reacted and what has happened due to them. I'm awake because I continue to ponder in order to fully understand what I'm dealing with rather than denying them. What's keeping me up is too much energy and trying to make sure I am a worthy human being that adds to society and life, rather than looking upon myself as a leech to humanity. It's kinda the opposite of denial, if that makes any sense. I just want to progress as a being.

Also; I've been prescribed Vallergan. Seems to be working. I've had a few great nights of sleep due to them.


good start...what do you believe your fate is?

[veritas]

does this mean I win because I caught 'em all?

POKEMON MASTER STATUS, YO!

http://i27.tinypic.com/a5ff9l.jpg

[veritas]

" I am illiterate, and the fact that I am able to write sentences that I am unable to read or understand, proves evolution...something coming from nothing randomly for no good reason. "

Veritas question out of curiosity. You would have studied evolutionary psychology considering it as a framework is present especially within development, neuro and abnormal psychology stuff. How do you address the conflict between your personal beliefs about no evolution and the presence of evolutionary psychology within basically most major fields of psychology in some way?

Also, considering you would have come across evolutionary psychology at some time and read about it, how do you write such a incorrect conceptualization of evolution such as "something coming from nothing randomly for no good reason." Surely, even if you disagree it would be on a specific point and not on such a complete misunderstanding of a basic concept.

this is a good question, especially after having to ignore the subtle attack in the stability of my belief system sir. Unfortunatly you feel this way due to simply not paying attention, as I stated in the GOD exists thread that I do believe in evolution of mind (I even stated: you are not the same person you were as a teenager, or something to that extent), just not in one species slowly, or magically, turning into another species entirely sir.

so perhaps the question here actually is, how are you unable to delienate the intellectual difference in mental/spiritual evolution or even personal evolution, with the Theory of evolution as an explanation for the existence of humanity?

[zygote]

They are completely different, I'm referring to things like evolutionary neuroscience, behavioral genetics, evolutionary developmental psychology. These all address gradual change in species over time through the process of natural selection. They use study of that gradual change to explain how current brain structures/developmental patterns currently exist. I mean you should know basic things similar to that, how do you write things like evolution is "something coming from nothing randomly for no good reason. " which is big misunderstanding and incorrect representation when you would have studied evolution?

[Sebastian Brawl]

does this mean I win because I caught 'em all?

POKEMON MASTER STATUS, YO!

ctfu

[veritas]

Easily. Everything you are describing is adaptation.

I am saying a fish turning into a bird into a monkey into a man is impossible. Natural selection has notjingto do with that.

I believe in adapting I believe in the brain evolvong thru neurogenesis and plasticity...but that all has notjing to do with monkey man.

[Diode]

veritas comes out of the closet as a creationist and/or ID-thumper ITT

[veritas]

I believe that God made everyrhing after its own kind.

[zygote]

"Easily. Everything you are describing is adaptation.

I am saying a fish turning into a bird into a monkey into a man is impossible. Natural selection has notjingto do with that.

I believe in adapting I believe in the brain evolvong thru neurogenesis and plasticity...but that all has notjing to do with monkey man. "

So you accept the mechanism of evolution but not the process of evolution. What justification (other than "God made in it's own kind") do you provide for placing a limitation on the mechanism of gradual adaption over time? If the mechanism for gradual adaptation is valid what reason other than "made in its own kind" could one species with two different and separate sets of conditions selecting different adaptions over time not diverge into distinct species? It seems kind of irrational like accepting in minutes exist but not hours and grams exist but not kilograms.

[PancakeBrah]

V/ zygote

Veritas steady taking L's

[Seyance]

Go on..

[Darth Yoda]

you ignored
me

[veritas]

"Easily. Everything you are describing is adaptation.

I am saying a fish turning into a bird into a monkey into a man is impossible. Natural selection has notjingto do with that.

I believe in adapting I believe in the brain evolvong thru neurogenesis and plasticity...but that all has notjing to do with monkey man. "

So you accept the mechanism of evolution but not the process of evolution. What justification (other than "God made in it's own kind") do you provide for placing a limitation on the mechanism of gradual adaption over time? If the mechanism for gradual adaptation is valid what reason other than "made in its own kind" could one species with two different and separate sets of conditions selecting different adaptions over time not diverge into distinct species? It seems kind of irrational like accepting in minutes exist but not hours and grams exist but not kilograms.



Wrong. You missing me. Plus it seems you have an agenda.

To believe in evolution one needs to have faith in it. One cannot say it happened without God either. I do not believe in the changing of a species over time. Have you ever seen it happen? Has anyone? When did it stop?

What of all the animals that would not exist unless made the exact way they are....like the giraffe?

[Diode]

Wrong. You missing me. Plus it seems you have an agenda.

To believe in evolution one needs to have faith in it. One cannot say it happened without God either. I do not believe in the changing of a species over time. Have you ever seen it happen? Has anyone? When did it stop?

What of all the animals that would not exist unless made the exact way they are....like the giraffe?

You do realize all of the above questions have been answered by men far more educated than the sum of everyone on this board, right? I mean - all you need to do is hit Google to find thorough dissertations on this subject. Is it a cognitive dissonance that you choose to ignore the scientific proofs that have given us this knowledge?

[PancakeBrah]

Wrong. You missing me. Plus it seems you have an agenda.

Lold irl

[Destroyer]

lol @ the evolution argument carrying over into this thread
VERITAS, all of your arguments against evolution are very easily countered with a simple google search.
why should we take stock in what you say and more importantly, why do you?

[NYCSPITZ]

time to pump brakes kid....EEEEEERRRRRRTTTTT

Thank you for claiming that I have a grasp on the basics, especially since you admit you have never even taken a class, this is high praise coming from psychology's Bobby Fischer (swidt?)

I am illiterate, and the fact that I am able to write sentences that I am unable to read or understand, proves evolution...something coming from nothing randomly for no good reason.

My wife is not ugly as fuck, thank you for guessing though. how exactly is one a psuedo-scientist?

So Bobby...having strict parents makes one a narcissist? Always? everytime? or just me?

I am dirt. you are a dirt person...know the difference.

you are a fool. I pity.

lol u mad...the fact that u answer everything by asking questions proves your idiot status.

My wife is not ugly as fuck

Denial

[NYCSPITZ]

please return to praising my OM verse that I wrote "omg black ur godly *bust a nut*"

...oops that was nyc?

ur OMs suck by the way

[Destroyer]

this is my favorite VERITAS argument though
"I've never seen it happen. Has anyone?"

you should take this logic and point it towards some of your other beliefs

[NYCSPITZ]

where's my diagnosis plz im crzy!!.

NYCSPITZ do me as well.

r u cristian

[Darth Yoda]

no AM NOT CRISTIAN

[Certain]

no AM NOT CRISTIAN

Accept the Lord Jesus into your life so that your soul does not burn in the fires of eternity, my child.

[Lars]

good lord this thread got GAYED very quickly

[veritas]

you are all proving yourselves fools to me.


Evolution is a lie. We did not evolve from monkeys who did not evolve from birds who did not evolve from fish who did not evolve from bacteria which did not evolve from...wait...how did that get here...? God!? or maybe Aliens seeded the planet...but who made the aliens?

the whole point is that even IF evolution was true (which it aint) you can't use it to deny God.


the fact is...evolution is a theory. there has to be the law of repeatability in effect, which this has ZERO.

it is a lie.


furthermore...dead at all of you being so against christianity, while considering yourselves so enlightened and yet believing in evolution. logic fail.

carry on.

[veritas]

lol u mad...the fact that u answer everything by asking questions proves your idiot status.

My wife is not ugly as fuck

Denial

dude I aint mad, I just feel sad for you that you feel the need to attack my character for no reason, but that is cool. insecurity and inferiority and envy always rise up like snakes in your words towards me. Carry on lil homey.

[veritas]

please return to praising my OM verse that I wrote "omg black ur godly *bust a nut*"

...oops that was nyc?

ur OMs suck by the way

you are a talented writer...who it turns out just happens to be a douchebag.

[StarFaggot]

Be specific w me.

[detour]

You think in very simple terms detour

Just because it was said does not mean the implications of what was said were ever actually implied, it is a fictional desire created to make you reply exactly how you are replying.

u could have just said veritas is trolling u...which I already knew to begin with...

[Rawn MD]

you are all proving yourselves fools to me.


Evolution is a lie. We did not evolve from monkeys who did not evolve from birds who did not evolve from fish who did not evolve from bacteria which did not evolve from...wait...how did that get here...? God!? or maybe Aliens seeded the planet...but who made the aliens?

the whole point is that even IF evolution was true (which it aint) you can't use it to deny God.


the fact is...evolution is a theory. there has to be the law of repeatability in effect, which this has ZERO.

it is a lie.

Have to disagree, how do some ppl have vestigial tales, moreover why r they predominately Asians

[veritas]

You do realize all of the above questions have been answered by men far more educated than the sum of everyone on this board, right? I mean - all you need to do is hit Google to find thorough dissertations on this subject. Is it a cognitive dissonance that you choose to ignore the scientific proofs that have given us this knowledge?

Dead. By all this google proof you mean at least ine documented case of something evolving from one type of organism to an entirely different one right?

[veritas]

u could have just said veritas is trolling u...which I already knew to begin with...

Josh you missinge hard right now. Pm me.

[Meth]

Show me the light please

[veritas]

pm me meth.

[Sn00p]

Me?

[Zen]

theres that denial we talked about. I love you.

You right. Love you too man.

[Witty]

you are denying right now. you remember your past don't you? most insomniacs in my experience, have often had a plethora of unresolved issues that the mind brought to their concscious during bed, and it kept them up.

amiright?

This happens to me, I haven't slept without some assistance in years, be it weed, sleeping pills, whatever.

Except I don't know why, if it is unresolved issues then they are going to stay unresolved because I don't even know what they are, but something stops me from sleeping tho, I just can't put my finger on what exactly it is. Sometimes I get freaked out because I realise that I am going to be inside my own head forever, and the only time I will get out of it is when I die, and I feel trapped, and I have to smoke something to chill out...but I don't know why that thought bothers me so much because I don't know what it is that makes my head so fucked up, I just know something is not correct. This only happens at night though, when I am trying to sleep.

[Witty]

please return to praising my OM verse that I wrote "omg black ur godly *bust a nut*"

...oops that was nyc?

ur OMs suck by the way

Rawr.

[Diode]

Dead. By all this google proof you mean at least ine documented case of something evolving from one type of organism to an entirely different one right?

i hate to quote wiki but this is actually a decent article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent

LEARN. THINGS.

[veritas]

I read that

and roflz....still no proof of evolution being what made humans. or even existing in that aspect. yall calling adaptation evolution. figure through all those scientific walls of text they would have had some evidence of something changing its entire genetic makeup into a whole new species.

consider the giraffe. just saying.

fossils? none have ever been found anywhere past the first layer of earths crust...ask yourself why.

Carl Ball in Plano Texas has a fossil with a dinosaur and human footprint together.

just saying....


GET DEEP:

we do not know what happened between genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2

there may have been many civilizations before us who knows? but I know that man that was made by God in Genesis did not come from a monkey.

[Diode]

oh my fucking god you deny the fossil record

here is your prize:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8001/7480127434_4096696090.jpg

[Split]

there is no evidence of any animal changing its whole genetic makeup because there is no evidence nor theories that aim to prove that

so you also do not understand plate tectonics?

[Diode]

there is no evidence of any animal changing its whole genetic makeup because there is no evidence nor theories that aim to prove that

so you also do not understand plate tectonics?

he's a creationist, don't bother.

he thinks the earth is 5000 years old.

[uh-oh]

i dont get why veritas thinks that if you think evolution is correct, you hate christianity

i'm indifferent. i don't like organised religion at all. but i don't hate the people who have there views and beliefs, and i don't hate there views and beliefs

i just find them silly. both their views and the people with them.

i just ate two tuna fish sandwiches. they are gonna evolve into diarhea during the night.

but word veritas, question.

what would prove evolution to you?

you can't just make evolution happen in a single human lifetime. so would you need all the skeletons from ape to man? where each skeleton when compared to the previous you see no change, but 1000 skeletons later if you compared that skeleton to the first, and so on and so on

im high

but word you'd basically need to look at a slideshow of 1 billion skeletons or some shit.

me im ALOOF

what oh shit theres a HOBBIT OH SHIT

WHAT that ape walked on two legs and threw rocks at shit? huh

whatttt neanderthals are a different species????

thats what i think alot of people don't get about the whole thing. we are a skinny branch on the family tree of some weirdo ocean mold

all of these species we find might not be related. but we can see how other species evolve over time, and we can see that all creatures evolved

but i mean the bibles dope tho cuz adam was a G

the story of adam and eve is really about masterbation

cuz adam had LILLITH THO before eve was made. adam used to beat that shit up. she was his equal tho. and she was like wtf, why can't i be on top? and adam was like cuz i run this duh. so she got pissed and fled the garden, turned into a demon and was known for snatching children in the night. when parents tuck there kids in and sing them a lullaby they are saying ancient magic keeping lillith away. it literally meant "lillith away" thats what lullaby is.

so anyway, lillith is gone, and adam is alone in the garden. he don't got no pussy so he's down and out. god creates eve from his rib making him have dominance over her, but also YO its a metaphor because when he bangs her, he's fucking himself. aka beating off

so its condoning beating off when bitches dip and morph to demons

evolution

lillith evolved

[Diode]

shabat says it is so

therefore it is

[veritas]

he's a creationist, don't bother.

he thinks the earth is 5000 years old.

Dude if you are not going to read my posts how can you expect me to listen to you.
Scroll up and see me talk about the gap between gen1 1 amd gen 1 2

I dont know how old the earth is. No one does.

Come at me. Amd pay attention.

[veritas]

there is no evidence of any animal changing its whole genetic makeup because there is no evidence nor theories that aim to prove that

so you also do not understand plate tectonics?

Dude this is a rare dumb post.

It needs to prove that. That is what it is all about.


Techtonics? Easily countered. The bible talks about that.

Still in yet....palonium halos.

Thread.

[veritas]

oh my fucking god you deny the fossil record

here is your prize:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8001/7480127434_4096696090.jpg

Carbon dating does not take into account a radical change in the earth. Like the flood. Also dinosaur fossils only ever found on the top layer....why?

[Rawn MD]

Verities can u address my question

[Witty]

My issue first please, it is almost 1am here and I am going to sleep soon.

[Rawn MD]

But I proceed u in this process witty

There is no cutting in line it's almost a commandment

[Rawn MD]

V also how can u explain mutation of virus and cold and stuff

That's adaptation yes
But also evolution

[zygote]

"Wrong. You missing me. Plus it seems you have an agenda.

To believe in evolution one needs to have faith in it. One cannot say it happened without God either. I do not believe in the changing of a species over time. Have you ever seen it happen? Has anyone? When did it stop?

What of all the animals that would not exist unless made the exact way they are....like the giraffe? "

Yes, actually I'm sorry if it came across as adversarial. I didn't mean for it to be, my command of the English language is a bit awkward because I use the most direct or accurate word rather than the most polite or colloquial. Anyway, the point was never about trying to demonstrate evolution, it was firstly about curiosity how can someone study evolution (considering it is prevalent within their field - psychology is a bachelors of science) and still write these big misconceptions on basic evolutionary concepts. Don't take it the wrong way, I'm not doubting your authenticity or qualifications. One other commenter made the point about "Have you ever seen it happen? Has anyone?" it is valid, even a high-school student in their first science classes will learn that observation can occur indirectly as well. The point is how are you professional who would have studied evolution in some way and yet your critique is no more sophisticated than basically "look at the giraffe"?

[veritas]

Because occams razor.

[Ghost1]

Worst thread of 2013.

[veritas]

I just make the complex simple. And ask questions you cant answer.
Especially since all you do is hear everything I dont say and nothing I do. I have studied evolution trust me. Enough to knkw it is a lie. GOD MADE MAN.

[Witty]

Thanks for all the help Veritas, I will sleep better now.

[Rawn MD]

Still awaiting reply

[KennyCerealBowl]

do me hard

[StarFaggot]

Vert come with your reply now.

[veritas]

aero you compensate. alot.

[veritas]

Still awaiting reply

I am sorry, but to what Greg?

[Rawn MD]

This

[Rawn MD]

V also how can u explain mutation of virus and cold and stuff

That's adaptation yes
But also evolution

Have to disagree, how do some ppl have vestigial tales, moreover why r they predominately Asians

[StarFaggot]

aero you compensate. alot.

That's all you got? Disappointed.

[veritas]

its true though. amiwrong?

[StarFaggot]

its true though. amiwrong?

I do compensate a lot but that's only bc I have two employees.

[namix]

lol, i love this shit...

go ahead and hit me up V --- I try to self evaluate a shit load to improve as person, and somewhat ironically, this thread made me self evaluate my self evaluation process haha...

So the first thing that came to mind for me was that I probably over-rely on a somewhat subjective sense of 'altruism' as a key defense mechanism --- but again, I like what you do, so drill deep with the truth so it hurts just enough that I make the move to feel better :)

[Ryan 12]

wow mind ass-sasfag is suchhhh a fagg0t

[Objective]

good start...what do you believe your fate is?

For this discussion to take place we have to establish exactly what I mean by ''fate'' and what the word means to me. I use that term loosely and not followed by a set standard or anything like that, I use it as a word to describe a persons story and the journey it takes the being on, and rather than life itself already having a set path which the word ''fate'' rests upon, I believe you are in charge of your own fate even tho' you get pushed out of balance every now and then. However, trying to figure out why something happened and spending countless of hours on finding answers to things impossible to figure out unless the people in question are present is something I mostly look upon as a waste of time. Hence the reason to why I don't think I'm in denial. I don't deny possible mental issues I may, or may not, have either and I'm always open to solutions and ways to better myself.

As far as it comes to what I believe my ''fate'' is, I think it's learning how to think less and being more down to earth while being put through different obstacles at all times like anyone else. I can not predict my reactions to certain hardships or how my mental health will be in the future, but I feel it rests a lot on how I choose to take charge of my own life and regain stability in both my sleep and thinking pattern right now and how I learn to grow from it. My ''fate'' also revolves a lot around accepting that things are like they are; accepting rather than wondering why I haven't met the girl I'd like to be with yet and why I'm not emotionally open enough to try something real with those I know from before, accepting instead of pondering why I can't sleep beside of the fact it seems I have excess energy at almost all times, my past, and so on.. Perhaps I am struggling with denial since it seems like I'm circulating the issues and analyzing them as much as possible before I get to the core of the problem at hand? I don't know, but I think my fate is that I have to learn to come to terms with myself and who I am in any situation since anxiety is a huge part of who I am today, but not how I act. I'm actually struggling a bit with that right now, I feel like I'm misplaced while doing the things I want rather than being in denial tbh. It's as if I push through the denial stage and learn to be myself again through that process. Sleep is hardly a part of it, but its present for sure. If it's of any interest my dreams are often self reflective and often an eye opener to me, I think that's a pretty strong indicator that I want to evolve out of this shit.

[veritas]

lol, i love this shit...

go ahead and hit me up V --- I try to self evaluate a shit load to improve as person, and somewhat ironically, this thread made me self evaluate my self evaluation process haha...

So the first thing that came to mind for me was that I probably over-rely on a somewhat subjective sense of 'altruism' as a key defense mechanism --- but again, I like what you do, so drill deep with the truth so it hurts just enough that I make the move to feel better :)


you intellecualize, you rationalize....shall I continue>?

you are a special case, because your spirituality is muddled....but seeking it's own expression, which puts you paradoxically head and shoulders above these demons, but at the same time right in line for the pharisee's hell. you come off as understanding the way things work, when we know that is just a reaction formation. You are trapped here with the rest of us brother.

[veritas]

For this discussion to take place we have to establish exactly what I mean by ''fate'' and what the word means to me. I use that term loosely and not followed by a set standard or anything like that, I use it as a word to describe a persons story and the journey it takes the being on, and rather than life itself already having a set path which the word ''fate'' rests upon, I believe you are in charge of your own fate even tho' you get pushed out of balance every now and then. However, trying to figure out why something happened and spending countless of hours on finding answers to things impossible to figure out unless the people in question are present is something I mostly look upon as a waste of time. Hence the reason to why I don't think I'm in denial. I don't deny possible mental issues I may, or may not, have either and I'm always open to solutions and ways to better myself.

As far as it comes to what I believe my ''fate'' is, I think it's learning how to think less and being more down to earth while being put through different obstacles at all times like anyone else. I can not predict my reactions to certain hardships or how my mental health will be in the future, but I feel it rests a lot on how I choose to take charge of my own life and regain stability in both my sleep and thinking pattern right now and how I learn to grow from it. My ''fate'' also revolves a lot around accepting that things are like they are; accepting rather than wondering why I haven't met the girl I'd like to be with yet and why I'm not emotionally open enough to try something real with those I know from before, accepting instead of pondering why I can't sleep beside of the fact it seems I have excess energy at almost all times, my past, and so on.. Perhaps I am struggling with denial since it seems like I'm circulating the issues and analyzing them as much as possible before I get to the core of the problem at hand? I don't know, but I think my fate is that I have to learn to come to terms with myself and who I am in any situation since anxiety is a huge part of who I am today, but not how I act. I'm actually struggling a bit with that right now, I feel like I'm misplaced while doing the things I want rather than being in denial tbh. It's as if I push through the denial stage and learn to be myself again through that process. Sleep is hardly a part of it, but its present for sure. If it's of any interest my dreams are often self reflective and often an eye opener to me, I think that's a pretty strong indicator that I want to evolve out of this shit.

this was a good post, a solid start, if you were sitting in my office, I would call to your mind how you firstly stated that you didn't think you were in denial, then later on said maybe you were. I would ask you to go on a quest to know that you know that know, instead of operating mentally from an un-solid foundation.

this was good though.

you saying you WANT TO evolve out of this, is a great first step!

[namix]

you intellecualize, you rationalize....shall I continue>?

you are a special case, because your spirituality is muddled....but seeking it's own expression, which puts you paradoxically head and shoulders above these demons, but at the same time right in line for the pharisee's hell. you come off as understanding the way things work, when we know that is just a reaction formation. You are trapped here with the rest of us brother.

word up, good analysis --- particularly the underlying message

i'm misunderstood on the intellectualizing part though bro... if anything i devalue it more than most because of what left brained thinking did to trap me for so long --- but others value it so much these days, that they assume i put value in it too... but clearly you're so right to bring it up, as it's a major effin part of my journey of unlearning smart to knowing wise.

absolutely trapped though! and hope i dont come off as if i think i am in any other place than the one we're all sharing -- cuz it's def. not a holier than thou type facade i'm tryna put up --- more like a "oooh shit, i had the click, maybe sharing something with someone can help them, which will help me, which will help us", you know what i mean?

i have started praying to be more humble though. added it in my nightly 'mantra'/prayer --> really each word being the next step in my journey, for each new phase.

"God, help me to be Courageous, Selfless, Loving, Patient, Peaceful and Humble. Help me to be a great husband, a great father, and a great human being -- and help me to always Remember".

and i know you know the importance of the last word there ;)


good looks friend --- i'll revisit and improve :D

[Frank]

FRANK:

*Projection
*Reaction Formation
*Intellectualization
*Rationalization

Hello, thank you. Tell me how this applies to me. Focus on me right now. Frank case #007

[Objective]

this was a good post, a solid start, if you were sitting in my office, I would call to your mind how you firstly stated that you didn't think you were in denial, then later on said maybe you were. I would ask you to go on a quest to know that you know that know, instead of operating mentally from an un-solid foundation.

this was good though.

you saying you WANT TO evolve out of this, is a great first step!

Lately I've thought about what you said, but it's harder to live with knowing than not. However, since I am mentally aware about my own state I am actually kind of afraid of what I might face on that journey. It is hard to let things be when you are a thinker like me, specially being open about things and always looking for several answers alltho' an answer may already have been given. The hardest part is being satisfied with what's presented to me and it eats me up on occasion. Due to this I think I have learned a lot about myself (thank God that least something positive came outta it) and I am afraid that with the diagnosis I've been given (dysthymia), I think I'm on my way to develop manic depression and would like some hints on how to prevent that from happening before I end up in a position where that diagnosis can be given. Well, since it is classified as a genetic disorder and it is an extremely severe condition I guess doctors etc. would have picked it up already, or have they? Either way I identify myself closely with 90% of the symptons on this list and could have done that for the past 10 years: http://www.webmd.com/depression/guide/bipolar-disorder-manic-depression. What do you think the next move for me should be? Also; I'm on sleeping meds now, been prescribed Vallergan and I try to stabilize my sleeping pattern.

More importantly; I'd like some tips on how I can take charge of my own life instead of feeling (completely different from being) dependant on those around me as I feel the connections I make is more important than breaking them in order to do what's needed to stabilize and keep a healthy mental state. Also; the friendzone is a bitch. I also want to add that I reached these answers because you told me about my defense mechanisms. Thanks a lot for helping me to put them to light so I can better myself and the life I am living.

[NYCSPITZ]

lol I might have that shit too Objective

[Objective]

lol I might have that shit too Objective

If that's the case you should seek professional help asap. Knowing how to deal with the hardship is half the battle, the other half is surviving it.

[NYCSPITZ]

nigga I'm a g stop. that hereditary shit is bullshit bc with different life experiences my psyche would be radically different. I can cure myself to be real.

[veritas]

don't think like that NYC. that is denial.

[veritas]

Lately I've thought about what you said, but it's harder to live with knowing than not. However, since I am mentally aware about my own state I am actually kind of afraid of what I might face on that journey. It is hard to let things be when you are a thinker like me, specially being open about things and always looking for several answers alltho' an answer may already have been given. The hardest part is being satisfied with what's presented to me and it eats me up on occasion. Due to this I think I have learned a lot about myself (thank God that least something positive came outta it) and I am afraid that with the diagnosis I've been given (dysthymia), I think I'm on my way to develop manic depression and would like some hints on how to prevent that from happening before I end up in a position where that diagnosis can be given. Well, since it is classified as a genetic disorder and it is an extremely severe condition I guess doctors etc. would have picked it up already, or have they? Either way I identify myself closely with 90% of the symptons on this list and could have done that for the past 10 years: http://www.webmd.com/depression/guide/bipolar-disorder-manic-depression. What do you think the next move for me should be? Also; I'm on sleeping meds now, been prescribed Vallergan and I try to stabilize my sleeping pattern.

More importantly; I'd like some tips on how I can take charge of my own life instead of feeling (completely different from being) dependant on those around me as I feel the connections I make is more important than breaking them in order to do what's needed to stabilize and keep a healthy mental state. Also; the friendzone is a bitch. I also want to add that I reached these answers because you told me about my defense mechanisms. Thanks a lot for helping me to put them to light so I can better myself and the life I am living.


so you feel dependent, but aren't?......

[Objective]

nigga I'm a g stop. that hereditary shit is bullshit bc with different life experiences my psyche would be radically different. I can cure myself to be real.

Pretty sure @Vertias would agree on the fact that you can add Denial to the list of defense mechanism you have as well. My father was a G too, fucking albanian mofo. At a party once pakis decided against beating me up once one of them told me who my father is, I don't know why they wanted to beat me up tho'. Guess they were just being stereotypical pakistanians. Either way, the beef was settled after that. Truth be told; My father was a crazy motherfucker, but even he needed a shrink. Fuck, even Tony Soprano had a shrink. Da fuq you on about? Stop thinking you're any different just because you're you.

Edit: Fuck, Veritas beat me to it. Haha, but yeah. Wouldn't hurt. Give it 10 serious sessions with a great shrink, you wont regret it.

[NYCSPITZ]

don't think like that NYC. that is denial.

thanks for your input but I'm right to be honest, it's not denial lol...

[NYCSPITZ]

Pretty sure @Vertias would agree on the fact that you can add Denial to the list of defense mechanism you have as well. My father was a G too, fucking albanian mofo. At a party once pakis decided against beating me up once one of them told me who my father is, I don't know why they wanted to beat me up tho'. Guess they were just being stereotypical pakistanians. Either way, the beef was settled after that. Truth be told; My father was a crazy motherfucker, but even he needed a shrink. Fuck, even Tony Soprano had a shrink. Da fuq you on about? Stop thinking you're any different just because you're you.

lol it's just my opinion dawg. don't get flustered about it, I can relate to many of those symptoms but IMO they are rooted in parenting, enviornment and the decision making process more than hereditary

[veritas]

thanks for your input but I'm right to be honest, it's not denial lol...

it is. you really think you don't need someone to talk to>?> you got the world in the palm of your hand>>?


Even us shrinks gotta have counseling before we counsel bro.

[veritas]

and also NYC...if you ARE depressed...you do not want to sit in it. pm bro. or call...6019173913 I will listen.

[Objective]

so you feel dependent, but aren't?......

Exactly. I have a bunch of friends, family members that cares. But still I feel dependent on extremely few people as opposed to just letting things go and break connections when I know it's hurting me in the long run. You feel me?

I feel like I have to keep these connections because human relations are extremely important to me on any level, even if they're bad.. If that makes any sense. Even I realize how fucking stupid it is to continue such friendships but I still can't get myself to break them because I'm somewhat afraid of what'll happen after that. I think it's because I think I'm not in charge, when in fact I am.
I don't really look upon myself as someone that's insecure since I often am the center of attention at parties and I don't give a shit if people I don't know talk shit behind my back. I was closed up in elementary and satisfied with the friends I had, but now it's switched and I feel like it's a race to have as many friends and groups of friends as possible and attending parties every weekend and being the ''cool guy''. I think I've turned into the male version of a fucking teenage attentionwhore in my mid twenties while not reaching the level where it's easilly identifiable and/or annoying to those around me.

It's also extremely important for me to have different impulses from different people; I know skaters and I've been skateboarding for quite some time so I know at least 20 skaters in my local area where I skate with 5 of them on occasion. I hang out with anti-weed people and mormons only to go to parties where people don't do shit but smoke a few days later. Ya feel me? If just 1 connection should break it's as if my world would crumble and I'm afraid that it's the start of something where I'll lose the rest as well. So I'm keeping unhealthy friendships based on that, read: the friendzone I'm dealing with atm being the main issue right now. I can't get myself to break it because I know me and her are extremely alike and we have fun when we're hanging out together. We know eachother and understand eachother on a level I can't with others, yet I can't seem to get rid of the feelings I have for this particular woman even though there's other options available at this very moment. It's frustrating.

This on top of dysthymia is extremely challenging to me as I'm having a shitload of fun when I'm outside, only to come home and be miserable for no fucking reason. I often find myself to deal with sudden depressing feelings when I'm hanging out with people or watching movies by myself as well, I'm a master at concealing it so it has never occurred to my friends, even the close ones, that I'm dealing with shit like this. (the reason I realized that manic depression might be a realistic diagnosis to me and why I googled it to read more about it). Either way I am in no position to self diagnose myself, I aint Freud either.

I'm not seeing a therapist at the moment allthough I absolutely should, I'm sick of seeing shrinks to be honest since I've been to a few already. Starting a new relation with one seems to be a shitbunch of work as I more often than not end up not being there due to my random sleep cycle, so I don't think I'll make any appointments until I get my sleeping pattern on track which I hope to do with the prescription given. What you'd say here is to go see one either way and get it started, but it's hard to keep it up due to the situation I find myself in at the moment.

So, do you think my plan is good to go and something I should aim towards? Basicly; What would be your advice to do from here on out?

[veritas]

Exactly. I have a bunch of friends, family members that cares. But still I feel dependent on extremely few people as opposed to just letting things go and break connections when I know it's hurting me in the long run. You feel me?

I feel like I have to keep these connections because human relations are extremely important to me on any level, even if they're bad.. If that makes any sense. Even I realize how fucking stupid it is to continue such friendships but I still can't get myself to break them because I'm somewhat afraid of what'll happen after that. I think it's because I think I'm not in charge, when in fact I am.
I don't really look upon myself as someone that's insecure since I often am the center of attention at parties and I don't give a shit if people I don't know talk shit behind my back. I was closed up in elementary and satisfied with the friends I had, but now it's switched and I feel like it's a race to have as many friends and groups of friends as possible and attending parties every weekend and being the ''cool guy''. I think I've turned into the male version of a fucking teenage attentionwhore in my mid twenties while not reaching the level where it's easilly identifiable and/or annoying to those around me.

It's also extremely important for me to have different impulses from different people; I know skaters and I've been skateboarding for quite some time so I know at least 20 skaters in my local area where I skate with 5 of them on occasion. I hang out with anti-weed people and mormons only to go to parties where people don't do shit but smoke a few days later. Ya feel me? If just 1 connection should break it's as if my world would crumble and I'm afraid that it's the start of something where I'll lose the rest as well. So I'm keeping unhealthy friendships based on that, read: the friendzone I'm dealing with atm being the main issue right now. I can't get myself to break it because I know me and her are extremely alike and we have fun when we're hanging out together. We know eachother and understand eachother on a level I can't with others, yet I can't seem to get rid of the feelings I have for this particular woman even though there's other options available at this very moment. It's frustrating.

This on top of dysthymia is extremely challenging to me as I'm having a shitload of fun when I'm outside, only to come home and be miserable for no fucking reason. I often find myself to deal with sudden depressing feelings when I'm hanging out with people or watching movies by myself as well, I'm a master at concealing it so it has never occurred to my friends, even the close ones, that I'm dealing with shit like this. (the reason I realized that manic depression might be a realistic diagnosis to me and why I googled it to read more about it). Either way I am in no position to self diagnose myself, I aint Freud either.

I'm not seeing a therapist at the moment allthough I absolutely should, I'm sick of seeing shrinks to be honest since I've been to a few already. Starting a new relation with one seems to be a shitbunch of work as I more often than not end up not being there due to my random sleep cycle, so I don't think I'll make any appointments until I get my sleeping pattern on track which I hope to do with the prescription given. What you'd say here is to go see one either way and get it started, but it's hard to keep it up due to the situation I find myself in at the moment.

So, do you think my plan is good to go and something I should aim towards? Basicly; What would be your advice to do from here on out?

I need time to unravel the knot you just tied...but I see some openings.....give me time to think on this sir.

[Objective]

I need time to unravel the knot you just tied...but I see some openings.....give me time to think on this sir.

Sure, take your time.

Also; if someone should read this, but doesn't feel like talking openly or to someone on a forum, and can relate to some of the stuff I wouldn't hesitate to speak to someone, or at least check out which options that's out there. It has improved my life at times where simply existing has seemed to be an impossible task. It is extremely underrated even if what you're dealing with is on a minimal level.

[Frank]

Exactly. I have a bunch of friends, family members that cares. But still I feel dependent on extremely few people as opposed to just letting things go and break connections when I know it's hurting me in the long run. You feel me?

I feel like I have to keep these connections because human relations are extremely important to me on any level, even if they're bad.. If that makes any sense. Even I realize how fucking stupid it is to continue such friendships but I still can't get myself to break them because I'm somewhat afraid of what'll happen after that. I think it's because I think I'm not in charge, when in fact I am.
I don't really look upon myself as someone that's insecure since I often am the center of attention at parties and I don't give a shit if people I don't know talk shit behind my back. I was closed up in elementary and satisfied with the friends I had, but now it's switched and I feel like it's a race to have as many friends and groups of friends as possible and attending parties every weekend and being the ''cool guy''. I think I've turned into the male version of a fucking teenage attentionwhore in my mid twenties while not reaching the level where it's easilly identifiable and/or annoying to those around me.

It's also extremely important for me to have different impulses from different people; I know skaters and I've been skateboarding for quite some time so I know at least 20 skaters in my local area where I skate with 5 of them on occasion. I hang out with anti-weed people and mormons only to go to parties where people don't do shit but smoke a few days later. Ya feel me? If just 1 connection should break it's as if my world would crumble and I'm afraid that it's the start of something where I'll lose the rest as well. So I'm keeping unhealthy friendships based on that, read: the friendzone I'm dealing with atm being the main issue right now. I can't get myself to break it because I know me and her are extremely alike and we have fun when we're hanging out together. We know eachother and understand eachother on a level I can't with others, yet I can't seem to get rid of the feelings I have for this particular woman even though there's other options available at this very moment. It's frustrating.

This on top of dysthymia is extremely challenging to me as I'm having a shitload of fun when I'm outside, only to come home and be miserable for no fucking reason. I often find myself to deal with sudden depressing feelings when I'm hanging out with people or watching movies by myself as well, I'm a master at concealing it so it has never occurred to my friends, even the close ones, that I'm dealing with shit like this. (the reason I realized that manic depression might be a realistic diagnosis to me and why I googled it to read more about it). Either way I am in no position to self diagnose myself, I aint Freud either.

I'm not seeing a therapist at the moment allthough I absolutely should, I'm sick of seeing shrinks to be honest since I've been to a few already. Starting a new relation with one seems to be a shitbunch of work as I more often than not end up not being there due to my random sleep cycle, so I don't think I'll make any appointments until I get my sleeping pattern on track which I hope to do with the prescription given. What you'd say here is to go see one either way and get it started, but it's hard to keep it up due to the situation I find myself in at the moment.

So, do you think my plan is good to go and something I should aim towards? Basicly; What would be your advice to do from here on out?

What is your birthday?

[Objective]

What is your birthday?

I'm a Libra. Why do you want to know this btw?

[Frank]

I'm trying to help you understand your self.

Today is 11/18/13. what is your birthday?

[Objective]

I'm trying to help you understand your self.

Today is 11/18/13. what is your birthday?

Your lulzy attempts at trolling doesn't work on me bro. Better luck next time.

That said; I will most likely disregard anything you say towards me in this thread. You have also successfully made me think you are dumber than what you've made out to be earlier on this board. Peace.

[Frank]

October 7th, 1988

Ok

[Frank]

Http://www.myspiritualprofile.com/content/spiritual_reading_summary.cfm?first_name=shireen&birthdate_day=7&birthdate_month=10&birthdate_year=1988

http://www.futurescopes.com/chinese-astrology-zodiac-signs/dragon/8443/earth-dragon-chinese-astrology

http://www.chinavoc.com/zodiac/dragon/five.asp


http://www.metaphysicalzone.com/china/dragon5.shtml

http://www.whats-your-sign.com/celtic-animal-signs.html

[Frank]

Read up

http://theconspicuouseyes.blogspot.com/2009/04/earth-dragon-chinese-zodiac.html?m=1

[Objective]

I guess you weren't trolling, or are you? At this moment it's hard to tell since I don't know you but I'll be polite. Take it as a compliment that I respond Frank, and that I don't disregard what you're saying which proves that you have regained your worth in my eyes. I take heed and I honestly appreciate you thinking about my well being and giving me advice that may help for some people.
However, in my case I have already ventured into the depths of spiritual things regarding anything from actual healers to tarot and spiritual guides that does it for a living. But I'm pretty much done with that now, and I know for a fact it isn't helpful to me. The only thing that comes to mind that might actually help is meditation, but I can't relax, I got too much energy to do ''nothing'' for more than a few minutes. I'm certainly a motherfucking indigo child, don't get it twisted, but this stuff aint for me. I've dealt with existential crisis and came to a conclusion. That's a huge thing to accomplish for someone like me. During this period I've read up on Kant, Freud and Heidegger along the likes of spiritual people and even some religion. The final conclusion is mostly a mix of it all but far from dependent on it.

I'm more the down to earth guy that tries to get how the physical bonding with people in life correlates with the stimuli it gets from outside sources and its final effect on the mind rather than trying to explain it with an abstract thinking/lifestyle.

[veritas]

tell me the main problem you want worked with please

[Objective]

tell me the main problem you want worked with please

I don't know where to start to be honest as there's already a shitload of things that needs to be dealt with, there's not as much a main thing as everything is kinda just this huge ball of snow that has finally stopped after running down the mountain. I've already identified some layers to be honest, but jumping into them now would be pointless as I wouldn't be able to digest it properly.
However, helping me regain some sort of stability on how I act towards everyday issues would definitely help me to ready up for the heavy stuff.

I think what I really want to work on is the things I expressed in my last post towards you as those are the most present to me at the moment. I don't know where to begin tho'.

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

damn

this thread is a joke

& objective...you're looking in the wrong places

i aint about to be on no veritas shit & try diagnose a muhfuka through a computer screen though

carry on

#1

[Objective]

damn

this thread is a joke

& objective...you're looking in the wrong places

i aint about to be on no veritas shit & try diagnose a muhfuka through a computer screen though

carry on

#1

I honestly do not give a fuck whether he's a fraud or not tbh, I'm not losing anything and there's nothing any of you can do to further destroy my mind, so what the hell? Let's see what he comes up with. This is the time for him to truly prove what his words are worth and that he is who he say he is. I'm interested to see what he got to say either way, it'll only help me either way as long as I'm having a natural approach to his answers, even if he should prove to be a hoax.

I also know where I can get in touch with people if shit should hit the fan, so I don't look upon this as anything but possibly helpful. Don't worry, I know what I'm doing in terms of my own mental health.

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

im not actually saying he's a fraud...

& i think you misinterpreted what i meant but its all love

be easy

#1

[Objective]

im not actually saying he's a fraud...

& i think you misinterpreted what i meant but its all love

be easy

#1

Yeah, re-read it now and I did. My bad.

[NYCSPITZ]

objective and veritas your belief in science is cool but one reason so many people think these things are "incurable" is the fact that the pharmaceutical industry makes billions upon billions through prescriptions. "OMG no you have an incurable illness just look it up online and btw take zoloft/xanax etc for the rest of your life." It's bullshit imo, you can control your mind and condition it to feel emotions you want it to feel. Don't take the hapless victim approach.

by the way what's an indigo child again Objective

[Objective]

objective and veritas your belief in science is cool but one reason so many people think these things are "incurable" is the fact that the pharmaceutical industry makes billions upon billions through prescriptions. "OMG no you have an incurable illness just look it up online and btw take zoloft/xanax etc for the rest of your life." It's bullshit imo, you can control your mind and condition it to feel emotions you want it to feel. Don't take the hapless victim approach.

by the way what's an indigo child again Objective

If only that were true NYCSpitz.. Me and my therapist went through several NON-MEDICAL TREATMENTS and we made a plan that I should follow and went through with progress etc. for about a year. It is a flawless system, but it doesn't work on me due to a lot of factors. He has retired now though but I still got the system. The therapist I went to didn't believe in meds either. However, after 5 years of trying to treat sleep without meds you reach a point where you start out with the weakest prescription drugs you can find and then move up from there if the first doesn't work. I'm not on xanax etc., I'm simply using a tool to help me get my life back on track, it's not something I'm supposed to use for the rest of my life.
Saying that meds is bullshit is extremely individual and depends solely on your body's chemical balance. And you saying depression etc. is bullshit along with controlling your mind to feel the emotions you want to feel is also dependant on your chemical balance and how you react to certain things just like how beer is different on different people. What works for you might not work on others etc. You are talking a lot about shit from your own experience which doesn't hold up if you're going to talk about psychology in general. It simply doesn't work that way so I'd advice you to not be so blunt about it because I've tried, probably a lot more than you care to realize. And any doctor that says that you got to take this and this prescription shit for the rest of your life is probably not a doctor you should continue seeing in the first place, I know you're exaggerating but you get my point.

Also; I have never said anything is incurable. I think they are, but certain illnesses is still a mystery puzzle that needs to be solved.

[NYCSPITZ]

what's an indigo child obj?

[Frank]

Nycspitz and objective are both earth dragons.

You may have more in common than you think

[Frank]

Objective, read up on Earth Dragon characteristics

[Objective]

Nycspitz and objective are both earth dragons.

You may have more in common than you think

I love NYCSPITZ, dude's my homie. This is just how I debate, it's not on any other level than friendly, haha. But ye, we probably do got a lot in common, we just attack certain topics differently from different standpoints. We got a lot to learn from eachother. I've heard a little bit about earth dragons already, my mother has talked to me about it.

@NYSPITZ: If you're interested you should google it, lots of resources out there. I'm just too lazy to do it. Basicly it's the theory that the recent kids that are born are more prone to be open about things and see shit differently, are more emotional and open for human relations a tad bit powerful than those who aint and approach spirits and is natural healers etc. with warm hands and whatnot. Basicly a lot of weird ish that alternative people say about their kids to make them feel special. You should google and read more about it if you're interested. For some reason I find comfort in it alltho' I know it's kinda fucked, haha. Guess my mother left something with me afterall.

[veritas]

do you have your own answers Objective

?

[Frank]

Google Earth Dragon and spend 1 hour getting to know yourself

[Objective]

do you have your own answers Objective

?

No. Everything I have said is true. I look for answers and I would have given them to you. Do I have doubts whether you're an actual therapist or not? Some, but they're leaning heavily towards you being one. Either way it doesn't really matter much as long as the answers given are valuable which they seem to be. Wish I had answers to the stuff I'm dealing with atm. Wouldn't have asked you otherwise. I don't steal peoples time for my own amusement.

[Witty]

I asked Veritas for advice once and he ignored me.

:(

[Objective]

I asked Veritas for advice once and he ignored me.

:(

There can be a bunch of reasons to why that is. For example that your problem isn't really that big of a problem and talking further on it will only complicate it and make it worse as opposed to you just dealing with it as it is now. That, or he wants to see if it gets worse/better and how you're dealing with rejection. But I can't talk for Veritas, therapists got their own way of dealing with people and their issues. Depends solely on each person and how they choose to attack a certain problem.

[veritas]

Objective

Contradictions....you do not care what people you do not know think or feel ablut you...but a majority of your psych well being is based upon what people who know you think and feel abkut you. Correct?

[Objective]

Objective

Contradictions....you do not care what people you do not know think or feel ablut you...but a majority of your psych well being is based upon what people who know you think and feel abkut you. Correct?

Yep!

[veritas]

So can one or the other be changed?

[Objective]

So can one or the other be changed?

Probably, but I don't know how I can ''manipulate'' myself that way. Perhaps using similar methods they use for ppl with gambling addictions and irrational fears? Kinda far out there tho.. Either way I shouldn't care as much as I do, it isn't healthy.

[veritas]

So you are an approval junkie?

[Witty]

There can be a bunch of reasons to why that is. For example that your problem isn't really that big of a problem and talking further on it will only complicate it and make it worse as opposed to you just dealing with it as it is now. That, or he wants to see if it gets worse/better and how you're dealing with rejection. But I can't talk for Veritas, therapists got their own way of dealing with people and their issues. Depends solely on each person and how they choose to attack a certain problem.

I think its because he thinks I'm trolling.

I can't blame him for that, sometimes I'm not sure when I'm joking or being serious so it would be hypocritical of me to expect others to make that distinction.

[Rawn MD]

The Mind Assassin

OK u can elaborate on me since this thread is still alive

Thnx

[veritas]

I think its because he thinks I'm trolling.

I can't blame him for that, sometimes I'm not sure when I'm joking or being serious so it would be hypocritical of me to expect others to make that distinction.

No.

[veritas]

The Mind Assassin

OK u can elaborate on me since this thread is still alive

Thnx

No.

[Rawn MD]

fraud!

[veritas]

fraud!

Projection!^

[Rawn MD]

Lol kinda walked into that one

Well played

[veritas]

Lol kinda walked into that one

Well played

what have you discovered in life Gregory>?

[Objective]

So you are an approval junkie?

Lol, I've never considered myself to be one or given it much thought, but when things are put in perspective I guess I am alltho i very rarely bring out the notion that I need approval from my peers. I guess this is extremely normal for most humans tho, but I think my issue is that I let it affect me to the point that I lose control over myself and feel disconnected from the world which has a snowball effect on my anxiety and may even trigger depressive episodes.. So ye, alltho it seemed minor to me at first, this seems to be the most natural thing to start working with tbh.

[Witty]

No.

You disappoint me.

[veritas]

Lol, I've never considered myself to be one or given it much thought, but when things are put in perspective I guess I am alltho i very rarely bring out the notion that I need approval from my peers. I guess this is extremely normal for most humans tho, but I think my issue is that I let it affect me to the point that I lose control over myself and feel disconnected from the world which has a snowball effect on my anxiety and may even trigger depressive episodes.. So ye, alltho it seemed minor to me at first, this seems to be the most natural thing to start working with tbh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkEE3gRX0kQ

[Objective]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkEE3gRX0kQ

It's relatable but it doesn't really add to anything that hasn't already been said... You know what you should do. You should watch the norwegian movie ''The Bothersome Man.'' It's available on Netflix. Then we can sit down and have a decent conversation. On some accounts it's extremely relatable to my situation atm, and at some point in my life the movie was almost too heavy to watch cuz it depicted exactly how I felt, it also opens up a lot interesting topics on other stuff as well. It's open for interpretation, so either way it'll be a nice watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOAS4gke5s0