**The Final Step** ends with ya foot on their throat.

[namix]

Woof.


BEFORE EXECUTING THEIR EXECUTIONS... please quickly comply with the following!!

Cashius Utmost Anonymous Genocide Jah Homie

Share your quick thoughts regarding the other team members and their matches!!!!! PLEASE make this a priority.

ACTION: for BOTH your match and their matches:
1. what do you think of their opponent?
2. what do you (or they) need to do to win?
3. any recent, or meaningful, personals you have in mind?

MATCHES:
Utmost vs. Malachi
Anonymous vs. Witty
Jah Homie vs. Sharp Nine
Genocide vs. King Keith

** PLEASE CONSIDER THIS MANDATORY - just 3 quick answers for each of our 4 battles which will HELP ME HELP YOU SO YOU CAN HELP US!!! **



YOUR PLAN:
please give a quick answer to this too:
1. When can you have a draft of something to show me??

--- NOTES:
(1) please write a couple punches concepts BEYOND the line limit you agree too -- give me something more to work with in case a particular concept just isnt working out.
(2) It does not need to be polished, we can be iterative --- but try to get me something ASAP so we can get going --- waiting until Monday or Tuesday night is cutting it close - I'd love to have at least 2 passes at it with each of you if possible!!

Please PM your drafts to both me and Cashius! (don't post them in here just yet)



I really want to see a quick response here before we talk about any specifics for any one verse -- definitely not trying to make unnecessary 'work' for the team, but this is the most pivotal piece of our game.

[namix]

Updated with above post with a QUICK request!!! Please comply ASAP ya'll.
Cashius Utmost Anonymous Genocide Jah Homie

[namix]

Personal Idea:

I think the "cross training" program flips I've seen have been ATROCIOUS (i even deliberately used a flip on it in a flex "didnt want my tutelage, coulda used the supervision / but didn't need the cross-training to receive this crucifixion" - just to get the concept out of the way lol

What that means is --- it would have been VERY unlikely that I'd recommend you guys touch on that --- UNTIL I thought about this fact which makes it MUCH more personal:

(1) EVERYONE YA'LL ARE GOING AGAINST SIGNED UP FOR MY CROSS-TRAINING PROGRAM
(2) I TOLD EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP THAT I CANT DO SHIT FOR IT BECAUSE I'M FOCUSED ON THIS FIRST

soooo - that literally means you can flip it a few different ways to make fun of them.

Ya'll have my undivided attention -- AND they aren't getting shit.

You can even have a funny "slight on me" in the process -- since a couple of you never signed up for it yourselves (and/or were too late for the first go around).

So a concept about "them asking for help, you didn't but got it any way" could be flipped into something pretty funny if you put a bit of thought into it....

Just an idea. I'll look at teams later and see if there are any other "common themes"

HOLLA!

[Utmost]

Jah Homie vs. Sharp Nine
http://artofbattling.com/forum/showthread.php?3666-Fizzy-Corn-(Malachi-S9-Collab)

Sharp uses alot of current event punches, multis are a little basic sometimes
Wordings not bad, he just has a lot of decent lines..havent seen many that screamed haymaker to me.
his lines are short, almost 'too short for liking'

what you should do. this site tends eat up good name plays..theres a bunch for sharp nine, also be creative as possible to offset the fact that hes probably gonna use a current event punch or just use one your self

SHARP NINE

Be ready to drop us your drops - my battle w/ bleak you PMed me about (keyed, but I thought it was alright), a flex collab with Malachi that he has atm and will drop sometime soon, and I kept every battle/collab verse I did on NC in a notepad doc so I'll have those ready as needed

Be ready to drop your backdrop - skill/evolution wise, a couple bullets on "where you were", "where you are now" (biggest strength AND opportunity)
Was: incredibly awkward with wording, completely neglectful of rhyming (single and slant rhymes mostly) and flow but decent with nameflips. basic wordplay related to forum events/sports/big news began to grow out of that

Now: Better worded, though concepts (particularly nameplays and personals) are pretty clearly my strength. I don't really focus on wording or flow - I feel like those are less necesary and don't really do enough non-battle stuff to develop it. I'm more entertained by a well-worded funny concept than a verse that flows smoothly but isn't really anything interesting.

Tbc I'm pursuing a degree in music and have a well-honed sense of time and rhythm - I've spent way more time with a metronome in the past 3 years than most will in all of their lives. I just don't consider this a hugely important part of a battle - you may notice that gamble voted against me for inconsistent flow and not really having "schemes" against bleak. I agree because 1. it was keyed, 2. I just think of what I do as making dick jokes - its a fun "fuck you", not an artistic statement to me.

What makes the best better than the rest? what makes a good writer in your opinion
Like I said up there, I feel like a strongly worded and clever punch is what does it. I don't really think of myself as the creative type, definitely not a writer. I don't really go for any of that "artistic expression" stuff, though I respect guys who do it well.

Raising the bar for the ones we drop what is the SINGLE most important area you'd like to improve as a writer (creativity, wording, wordplay, imagery, wording without sacrificing flow/flowing without sacrificing wording, etc.......)
I'd like to be able to make more effective personals as well as just generic bars, ones that could work for any opponent. I feel like I need to improve my filler just as much as my actual bars.

What you plan to PUT IN and hope to be the OUT PUT? how do you think you will help be a solid supporter of this cause --- and what is the NUMBER ONE thing you hope to get out of this process?
I plan on giving honest feedback based around the goals of everyone else involved as well as a decent amount of writing. I feel like from voting/feeding I've gotten a good sense of what I like in a verse and what I want to have my verses (not) be.

some good tidbits of info in here

[Utmost]

Utmost vs. Malachi aka Prophet

http://artofbattling.com/forum/showthread.php?2063-Malachi
http://artofbattling.com/forum/showthread.php?3863-Whats-your-worst-fear
http://artofbattling.com/forum/showthread.php?3666-Fizzy-Corn-(Malachi-S9-Collab)


Where I was : I joined netcees to start working in my craft like in august, when i wrote then i was terrible, flow was off, very lil to no punches or wordplay or metaphors, I was very new to everything and i didnt know what they were to begin with.

Where I am Now: I have improved greatly from where I was in my opinion. My flow is way better and really nice to me. I try to have more punches/wordplay in my (flex) writing played or not. I think I'm getting more creative in writing too. Everything overall is better than my first few writtens.

from his benchmark

[Utmost]

Genocide vs. King Keith

Topical writer
no shows alot

I havent seen him battle, but his wording and content seem to be pretty good topical and flex wise.


This is from his benchmark, it may prove useful
I started out doing chat freestyle battles and from there getting on forums. Was pretty bad compared to others who had a greater grasp. Never took the time to truly hone my skills. This was back in '03-'04 I believe. After some time away I came back, still borderline between low & mid tier. Even in the present, battlewise, I'm still stuck in that region. Defintely looking to improve vastly.

[Utmost]

Anonymous vs. Witty
-In a crew called Evolution with Killer Aries l Witty l Bleak l Split
-His topicals are supposed to be beast, neva seen him actually battle
-Not sure who witty is..could be an alias/ Geno might have a better answer
I always thought he was Crud aka Half wit It
-Mod at rapisalive
-constantly in Discussion

found a couple battle verse of his on netcees ***hed page

vs Nick James
You don't put nothing on, take my advice with ur wife next time u fuck her
Only thing u cud've put on too save ur kids from a shitty life, was a rubber
Why'd you plan a family? Now your ass is trapped and you can't be released
He'll take his anger out online, n hit me with the force of Sandy.....from Grease
Looking at that pic I noticed shit, now watch this anorexic fuck get pegged
Dude clearly got so hungry he done fucked around and ate his daughter's leg
Came back the king of this battle shit, but dude can't hang with the big shots
He tries to fit in, ends up like a double arm amputee crack dealer....kicks rocks
Show this shit to your baby momma, let her see her old man flayed in a slaughter
And don't try to be a role model, til u get up to the same weight as ur daughter

Dude claims he's middle tier? Man this loser nerd is shook and scurred
Put YOURSELF damn near the bottom, which is still more than u deserve
Nobody knows this fag, he got me on his back, I'll make his shoulders sag
I can swag and flow, blast and blow, hand him his ass...this hoe? Can brag
So keep swaying dude, I'll keep playing you....I'm God, coming after your life
Muh fucka acting like Mel in braveheart, til he crossed the passion of Christ
Funkt you'll die...you fuckin' punk, cuz when this shit gets dumped...goodbye
You killing yourself, cuz if u think you winning then yup...you MUST be high
Stop sucking dick, get out into the world and find a real date dude
Cuz u skill rate, and lick ass of the top dudes...and they still hate you
This shit is a circus, you see this top hat? lemme tell you how shit went down
Dude fell of his tight rope, tried to flip some shit...now he's getting clowned
Stay in your lane, this pre-fight warm up saying my name, I don't trip though
He has no pedigree to play this game, he'll get knocked out in the big show
Man get away from porn, nasty muh fucker..clean that cum from your socks
Is there anything else I need to say?...uhhhh, hmmm...I dunno....fuck....


He seems to be more concerned with flow than fleshing out concepts by how these read

[namix]

Fuck yea Utmost!! much obliged bro - great stuff!


NOTE TO ALL - please do not quote the "benchmarks" directly, pull info out of them -- but please do not quote them, since they were deliberately intended to be in the password-only forum to avoid being used against them lol...

please try to respect that, im looking to help the team however we can - but that'd just look like you were hurting for concepts more than anyone in this group needs to.


feel me yo?

(again - DOPE response/info Utmost --- everyone else, please return the favor and provide your insights asap!)

[Cashius]

The only person I know is Malachi, who went by Prophet at NC. He's like 13 years old. He was always complaining he was too broke to buy a PS3 then he finally got one.

I know that's random but that's all I remember. I won't be much help here, but I can give feedback on concepts once you guys start that process.

[namix]

The only person I know is Malachi, who went by Prophet at NC. He's like 13 years old. He was always complaining he was too broke to buy a PS3 then he finally got one.

I know that's random but that's all I remember. I won't be much help here, but I can give feedback on concepts once you guys start that process.


lol man that's effin great. those personals alone could fuel an entire series of verses.

concepts like "young" and "broke" can be flipped just as easily as "fat", and few topics are as played out as 'fat' -- but combine "young and broke" together man, that's gold.


Well at a minimum, you should have no shortage of things to pull from Utmost!

[Utmost]

thanks for the head up yall Cashius namix

most likely i have my verse pm'd to yall later tonight

[Geno]

Just saw this. My bizzad bout posting pematurely lol.
What y'all think though and shit? Lol

[namix]

dope Utmost

no prob Genocide - i was just surprised more than anything lol. i'll give it some real feed tomorrow bro, im sure it'll get the job done though.

[Jah Homie]

Sorry, got stuck up in the world -- I have five or six I'm working on, forgot to check here a couple days, just found out I was in battle.
I'll send out the lines in a bit.

[namix]

good looks - did you get your AIM going Jah? sign up for that shit bro, it's so much easier.