uh-oh

[Malachi]

wassup with a brotha gettin some flstudio/audacity help'
uh-oh

[King Ra.]

I haven't used my flstudio in a long ass time. Was in the learning process too. Gonna get back into it to construct scores for my coming soon 3D enviroment/cgi animation trailers.

[Malachi]

i have nothing.
not even the basics.

all i got is this lil loops on audacity

[King Ra.]

If you want to really learn flstudio and are willing to put it the time & dedication, while being patient to learn and grow, there is a guy on YouTube who goes by warbeats. Subscribe to his channel. He breaks down every aspect of FLstudio that you'd like to know. Has a lot of videos on there. They are pretty lengthy but if you're willing to watch and follow each one, you will be making beats in no time.

[uh-oh]

yea warbeats covers pretty much every aspect from knowing nothing to the more in depth little shit in FL studio

i don't chop in FL studio tho, i chop in sony sound forge, which is sort of like audacity. the problem with audacity is i don't know how or if its even possible to export (move) chops from audacity into FL studio

but word do you got FL studio?

if so what version? we will start there.

[Malachi]

fl studio 10, i think pretty sure?

i guess i could also add sony studio forge, is it good?

[uh-oh]

no don't get sound forge, it will slow you down. i shouldve stopped using it awhile ago, but its just what i learned to use.

its a useless step tho, if i never learned it i would be better off just using FL.

FL studio 10 has Edison, which does the same stuff i use sound forge for. i don't know how to use it the same way, but i can use it enough to show you how to use it, and it will serve you better in the long run. its like eliminating a step.

but anyway

i'm gonna put together a folder for you. its gonna have certain files, i will label them so you know what is what. i will also put a text file in it with step by step instructions on how to assemble a beat from the files i send you. i'll try and include scrnshots and other shit in parts.

basically i'm going to try to make a step by step guide showing you how you can make beats. i'll keep it basic

gonna start now, just make a simple beat and write what im doing in the process

[King Ra.]

Whenever you get done with that uh-oh, I'd like those files as well.

[Malachi]

no don't get sound forge, it will slow you down. i shouldve stopped using it awhile ago, but its just what i learned to use.

its a useless step tho, if i never learned it i would be better off just using FL.

FL studio 10 has Edison, which does the same stuff i use sound forge for. i don't know how to use it the same way, but i can use it enough to show you how to use it, and it will serve you better in the long run. its like eliminating a step.

but anyway

i'm gonna put together a folder for you. its gonna have certain files, i will label them so you know what is what. i will also put a text file in it with step by step instructions on how to assemble a beat from the files i send you. i'll try and include scrnshots and other shit in parts.

basically i'm going to try to make a step by step guide showing you how you can make beats. i'll keep it basic

gonna start now, just make a simple beat and write what im doing in the process

wordd

[uh-oh]

i got you guys tomorrow for sure, im off work so i have no excuses lol

[Malachi]

Word

[Malachi]

i got you guys tomorrow for sure, im off work so i have no excuses lol

[uh-oh]

yooo

it sucks doing this lol. trying to type every step, cuz its like "drag this into the playlist, and then right click and hit edit sample and etc."

so i'm just going to download camtasia again and try and make some simple vids.

in the meantime here is warbeats chopping a sample in edison inside fl studio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y5rAdi-VWI

thats the first step when i'm making beats, is chopping a sample up. i was gonna do a simple 4 bar loop and send it along with the original sample so you can see where most loop points and shit are at, its all on a count so you can use it with any sample

but word i was gonna show how to chop and then how to place and arrange it and how to apply drum sounds and bass and shit

but i'm lazy and its alot of work typing it in notepad instead of talking what im doing out

[Malachi]

yooo

it sucks doing this lol. trying to type every step, cuz its like "drag this into the playlist, and then right click and hit edit sample and etc."

so i'm just going to download camtasia again and try and make some simple vids.

in the meantime here is warbeats chopping a sample in edison inside fl studio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y5rAdi-VWI

thats the first step when i'm making beats, is chopping a sample up. i was gonna do a simple 4 bar loop and send it along with the original sample so you can see where most loop points and shit are at, its all on a count so you can use it with any sample

but word i was gonna show how to chop and then how to place and arrange it and how to apply drum sounds and bass and shit

but i'm lazy and its alot of work typing it in notepad instead of talking what im doing out

it was goin fine until the end where he was talkin bout doin piano stuff and u couldnt even see what he was doin
shit made no sense to me

and i should prolly use a different sample too
the loop i was usin only has two different hits lol
i put a spell on you whatever

could only do like 2 markers

uh-oh

[uh-oh]

word i don't chop off of hits like they do, i don't use the slicer or put shit over keys

the first part of what he did is what i do, i can just do it with smaller pieces and rearrange it manually like he does later with the slicer

i just use edison basically. edison is basically sony sound forge (what i actually use) but its built in with FL. so just use that to chop

i gotta get a screen recorder man. my way is simpler

its a little more work chopping wise but once yous understand it and its second nature you can blow through it

i can't really help until i do that tho

[Malachi]

i cant wait
sure u can find a screen recorder for free online

[Malachi]

word i don't chop off of hits like they do, i don't use the slicer or put shit over keys

the first part of what he did is what i do, i can just do it with smaller pieces and rearrange it manually like he does later with the slicer

i just use edison basically. edison is basically sony sound forge (what i actually use) but its built in with FL. so just use that to chop

i gotta get a screen recorder man. my way is simpler

its a little more work chopping wise but once yous understand it and its second nature you can blow through it

i can't really help until i do that tho

any updates or did u forget all about this shit lol

got anywhere i can find good sound kits

prolly trying this site

and download random shit
http://beatproduction.net/sound-kits/hip-hop-construction-kit--3681/

[Malachi]

DLB sup

[uh-oh]

any updates or did u forget all about this shit lol

got anywhere i can find good sound kits

prolly trying this site

and download random shit
http://beatproduction.net/sound-kits/hip-hop-construction-kit--3681/

shit man i got you this weekend

i just gotta figure out a way to cut the video down, i tried doing it a couple times but a simple 10 minute video is like 40 minutes without a mic, cuz im recording my screen, and whenever i do something i have to bring up notepad and type out what im doing/did and why i did it, instead of talking while im doing it

so the vids come out long. but i'll simplify it and try and maybe do a few short vids instead of one covering it all

and i'll up a drumkit

you can search sites for sound kits but theres alot of garbage sounds out there, so i'll give you some of what i use to help get you started

[Malachi]

shit man i got you this weekend

i just gotta figure out a way to cut the video down, i tried doing it a couple times but a simple 10 minute video is like 40 minutes without a mic, cuz im recording my screen, and whenever i do something i have to bring up notepad and type out what im doing/did and why i did it, instead of talking while im doing it

so the vids come out long. but i'll simplify it and try and maybe do a few short vids instead of one covering it all

and i'll up a drumkit

you can search sites for sound kits but theres alot of garbage sounds out there, so i'll give you some of what i use to help get you started

Word
I just downloaded random ones

[Boredom]

ayo uh-oh you have beats I am able to use g?

[uh-oh]

uhoh.bandcamp.com

free download links in each beat tapes album description thing

thats like 70 or so beats in all

[Boredom]

word, going to sift through em.

will post up a track once it's completed or should I hit you up before I record over it??

uh-oh

edit: nvm saw that ish at the bottom. will def shout ya out if I use one.

[DLB]

sup mal

[Malachi]

sup mal

U seem to be decent at fl studio

How?
Tips?

[DLB]

time

watch some of the videos of how people would usually make a beat
construction of beats
obsorb as much as you can and then reciprocate
watching fl studio remakes of famous songs is also insightful

trap beats are the easiest to make on fl studio, i'd tell u to start with that. sampling is a bit more complicated.

[Malachi]

i just want to make a decent beat in a week :(

[DLB]

it took me years to understand man

it takes time

i been using fl since i was 11, im 18 now

[Malachi]

YEARS

YEARS

my nigga

nooooooooooo

i have to be good at this shit in atleast 2

well not good

but able to make one decent beat a year would be good enough

atleast

[DLB]

for what?

[uh-oh]

MALACHI

i just made a 54 minute video

probably only 20 minutes of it will help you the other 34 im just messing around with stuff

but i'll up it

do you want me to put it on youtube? or just upload the video file so you can download it?

all i really showed was how drums work. i tried to explain it but its hard without a mic

[DLB]

youtube, i want to see it as well uh-oh

[Malachi]

for what?

i actually am try make beats to use and sell lol

[DLB]

i actually am try make beats to use and sell lol

lol it will take time then

esp to make good shit. most of these internet producers who lease their shit for 50 bucks on soundclick are trash or make beats that sound horrible. the idea of using fl to the best ability is to make it sound like u went to the studio and cooked it up with some of the hottest in the game. that seperates a lot of producers from mainstream to underground to just the internet. practice the craft and read up on production. i love reading encyclopedias. get your knowledge up cause it's as beneficial as just making stuff

[uh-oh]

yea its definately gonna take awhile malachi

but i was making decent stuff inside of 2 years, i just needed to know the basics

i gotta see how big this video file is tho. alot of it is me typing into the notepad trying to explain stuff its a wack vid but malachi if you watch what im doing and saying with drums you will gain an understanding

once you can arrange drums and do that then you can play stuff over it, or sample and arrange those over drums and etc

but yea, don't try and sell anything. there are literally a billion beatmakers. all of them are better than you. maybe 1 percent actually sell there beats. and 90 percent of that 1 percent are hawking them for 20 dollar leases like cornballs

make beats for yourself and others

you want people to offer to buy your beats, you dont want to try and sell them.

[DLB]

i had premo buy a beat from me for 5 bucks yo

my best accomplishment so far

[Malachi]

i had premo buy a beat from me for 5 bucks yo

my best accomplishment so far

ur fuckin lyin

no wayy lmao

[Malachi]

MALACHI

i just made a 54 minute video

probably only 20 minutes of it will help you the other 34 im just messing around with stuff

but i'll up it

do you want me to put it on youtube? or just upload the video file so you can download it?

all i really showed was how drums work. i tried to explain it but its hard without a mic

i mean youtube would be great

[Ghost1]

i had premo buy a beat from me for 5 bucks yo

my best accomplishment so far

LOOOOOOOL

please stop rawning.

[Malachi]

yea its definately gonna take awhile malachi

but i was making decent stuff inside of 2 years, i just needed to know the basics

i gotta see how big this video file is tho. alot of it is me typing into the notepad trying to explain stuff its a wack vid but malachi if you watch what im doing and saying with drums you will gain an understanding

once you can arrange drums and do that then you can play stuff over it, or sample and arrange those over drums and etc

but yea, don't try and sell anything. there are literally a billion beatmakers. all of them are better than you. maybe 1 percent actually sell there beats. and 90 percent of that 1 percent are hawking them for 20 dollar leases like cornballs

make beats for yourself and others

you want people to offer to buy your beats, you dont want to try and sell them.
http://poetic-niggaz.tumblr.com/post/72164157711/some-shit-i-did-fuckin-in-fl-studio-lmao

this is what ive been doin

[DLB]

ur fuckin lyin

no wayy lmao

srs

way srs

[Malachi]

uh-oh

u uploading to utube soon this week?

[uh-oh]

yea i got one video done on my computer but it sucks, i watched it after it rendered and i gotta find a better way to do it.

i might be better off just finding a video that someones already made and showing you that until i can get a mic

[Malachi]

yea i got one video done on my computer but it sucks, i watched it after it rendered and i gotta find a better way to do it.

i might be better off just finding a video that someones already made and showing you that until i can get a mic

you should just upload it anyways
if it doesnt take long to do that anyway

[uh-oh]

word im upping it now to mediafire

you'll have to download it to watch it, its 116 mb so it aint huge or nothing, i'll post the link in here when its done.

i'll also post my drums folder in here so you wont have to search for drumsounds and packs/kits for awhile until you want to build your own personal collection, thats already uploaded but i cant link it while something else is uploading

but word

you can watch the video it might help some i tried to talk about how hip hop is 4/4, 4 beats per bar, and how the snares are on the 2's and 4's

it'll make more sense when you see what i highlight and stuff

but word after a little ways in i kinda just started messing around and playing with stuff in there instead of teaching lol

and it takes like ten minutes of me typing before i lay shit out

but if it does help you at least learn how to build drum patterns thats one thing down, and i can try and do one showing sampling

i can show you how to play shit too, but not well. like i can show you how to do it, but you basically gotta know how to play piano

it would be easier for me to teach you to sample

and by that i mean how to actually chop something correctly and incorporate it over your drums and all that shit

but what makes sample based dudes dope, is there samples. anybody can chop. not everyone can find dopeness, and not everyone can actually harness it and put it in a hip hop format

im not sure how much you know about sampling, or even which approach from there you want to take

my approach to sampling is a little different. i mix big chops with little chops and kind of try and keep the vibe of the sample. then you got dudes who chop for sounds, and stabs. like dj premier. he'll grab a 2 bar loop here and there, but he's more of a stab guy.

but see this is my problem. this post right here is exactly what i do in the video. i get off track because there is so much to teach, and instead of teaching one thing, i meander off and talk a little bit about alot of different things lol

mainly stuff you shouldnt worry about yet.

it'd be like being a math teacher and trying to teach multiplication and division before teaching my students addition and subtraction lol

[Malachi]

word thanks for the help

dude good to see u helpin out

[uh-oh]

http://www.mediafire.com/download/a65z9cn6yxzun5q/Uh-Oh's%20Official%20DrumKit.rar

http://www.mediafire.com/watch/nx554zoxgvpuafc/capture-1.mp4

[Malachi]

ight downloadin now

[Fig]

An uh oh tutorial and a certain chart

You spoiled little twat

[Malachi]

i lol'd

[DLB]

i never knew uhoh's name was james tho

[Malachi]

http://www.mediafire.com/download/a65z9cn6yxzun5q/Uh-Oh's%20Official%20DrumKit.rar

http://www.mediafire.com/watch/nx554zoxgvpuafc/capture-1.mp4

uh-oh

that tutorial was dope as shit. u didnt really sidetrack like u said u did
it helped me alot.
snare hihat kick, for all or almost all beats got that

and helped with thinkin of basic drum patterns. Like i obv can do a beat im my head but i wasnt sure how to lay it out on the sequencer.

Questions: when u were fixing the beat to the sample. How did u know where to change shit.

and when your usin voice samples. How do you know which one to use. Im guessin the emotion in the voice has to match the feeling of the beat

can i get a download of all ur samples from u lol? i remember ugave me this long ass audio file to chop up

but word
i think i absorbed a bunch

If your makin another vid anytime itd be dope if it could be about choppin samples and could go deeper in on playlist thats a lil confusin

but yeah this was dope, even enjoyed it

notes that im takin cause im deletin video:
hi hat every 2 beats
uh oh whats kick 1 & 3?
snare 2&4 ?

tempo should be about 85 or 110

[uh-oh]

the tempo can be anything

you just want to stay in the 70-110 range. pretty much anything inbetween can work, 110 is about as quick as hip hop gets tho, thats like upbeat party simple type tempo

probably 75 percent of hip hop beats are around 93 bpm. i work in the 80's mostly, you'll find your sweet spots with it, some stuff has to be slower or quicker it varies.

the kicks on the 1 and 3 just is to keep time. so if your looking at the step sequencer (where you highlight the boxes), the kick would be on the very first box (the 1 beat.) the 2 beat, would be the snare, 3 would be a kick again, 4 would be snare again

they can alternate just to keep time, but really you don't need a kick on every down beat or a snare, i was just saying at the most basic level of a basic drum pattern thats usually how it works

because its all on a count. 1 bar is 4 beats. 1,2,3,4 than it loops back to 1,2,3,4. etc.

once you get doing more drum patterns you will see how it works. pretty much every beat that is in your head that you can hum has a snare on the 2 and 4 with a kick on the 1 at the very least

but thats all technical drumming stuff, but thats the biggest step next to sampling and chopping.

i can show you how to chop, but i can't show you how to listen to music. thats what seperates most beatmakers, is they find something special in a song no one cares about, and make it there own, unique in the hip hop format. i can only point you in the right direction. like if i knew how to play piano, i can show you the chords, and basics of what goes with what and how to play, but i can't show you how to make YOUR music. know what i mean. you can teach a painter to paint, but only he can paint what he wants too.

if that makes sense

i get too philosophical thats my problem and i feel like i stray from my main points

but yo i can't up my sample chops folder. not because i don't want too, but because its 98gb of wav files lol. its everything ive chopped from stuff from the past, i won't say 8, but probably 6 years. it includes stuff that didnt work(probably 90 percent of it lol) and everything i just like holding onto all of it

once i teach you to chop and show you some shit though you will be on your way of building your own catalog

i can see what i can do now as far as how to chop. this is one where i really need a mic but i'll try.

im gonna do it very basic. just a 1 bar loop, and maybe another 1 bar loop for a change up. but the main focus is just understanding how to do it.

[Malachi]

lmaoo at philosophical word man
i guess ima have to go away from hip hop to find stuff to sample
cause thats all i listen to right now.

im learning the piano to help on this too

[uh-oh]

word learning the piano is excellent. if you can play keys it helps alot.

i just got about 20 minutes deep in a chopping tutorial before i realized none of the sound was recording.

i will make it and hopefully get it all uploaded tomorrow though

i can help you with setting you in the right direction for what to sample as well. as far as genres and eras, like what years and stuff and a couple websites/blogs to grab stuff to skim through

pretty much any genre of music from 67-73 is gold. anything later than the 70's gets too cheezy and computeristic imo but some people find good stuff.

i stick with soul music alot. 60's and 70's. its not bad to start with the obvious just to get a feel with how the music is arranged and how to chop it. like isaac hayes, al green, marvin gaye, stevie wonder, the jackson 5, stevie wonder, anything really thats soul in the right years is a good starting point.

there is also classic rock, but ALOT of it is way too white and there is no way to make it hip hop. the tempos and instruments and how they're played. but then you'll find a gem where there is some HYPE piano and crazy cymbal crashes and bass like oh shitttt

but yea i mainly stick with 60-70s black gospel, and soul music.

there are always movie soundtracks too, again you want that same era, 60's 70's. but with movie soundtracks, its more for the sound quality. how stuff was recorded back then, all in one room, played live, on those microphones from that era, into there analog boards and shit. its got that crispy grimeyness hip hop thrives on

but you can look at movie scores from anytime really, because alot of it is real instruments, like orchestras and stuff

but thats just me

you can literally sample anything. except hip hop lol

you want to make something hip hop, not just snatch someones shit if that makes sense

these posts are too long i feel like im dropping too much knowledge at once

don't be overwhelmed. just take your time.

i'll have a simple vid tomorrow showing how to chop and place it in FL studio

[Split]

malachi reblogging MF Doom masks, laughing and saying he really needs to buy that game

[Malachi]

malachi reblogging MF Doom masks, laughing and saying he really needs to buy that game

you following me on tumblr huh?

[Malachi]

word learning the piano is excellent. if you can play keys it helps alot.

i just got about 20 minutes deep in a chopping tutorial before i realized none of the sound was recording.

i will make it and hopefully get it all uploaded tomorrow though

i can help you with setting you in the right direction for what to sample as well. as far as genres and eras, like what years and stuff and a couple websites/blogs to grab stuff to skim through

pretty much any genre of music from 67-73 is gold. anything later than the 70's gets too cheezy and computeristic imo but some people find good stuff.

i stick with soul music alot. 60's and 70's. its not bad to start with the obvious just to get a feel with how the music is arranged and how to chop it. like isaac hayes, al green, marvin gaye, stevie wonder, the jackson 5, stevie wonder, anything really thats soul in the right years is a good starting point.

there is also classic rock, but ALOT of it is way too white and there is no way to make it hip hop. the tempos and instruments and how they're played. but then you'll find a gem where there is some HYPE piano and crazy cymbal crashes and bass like oh shitttt

but yea i mainly stick with 60-70s black gospel, and soul music.

there are always movie soundtracks too, again you want that same era, 60's 70's. but with movie soundtracks, its more for the sound quality. how stuff was recorded back then, all in one room, played live, on those microphones from that era, into there analog boards and shit. its got that crispy grimeyness hip hop thrives on

but you can look at movie scores from anytime really, because alot of it is real instruments, like orchestras and stuff

but thats just me

you can literally sample anything. except hip hop lol

you want to make something hip hop, not just snatch someones shit if that makes sense

these posts are too long i feel like im dropping too much knowledge at once

don't be overwhelmed. just take your time.

i'll have a simple vid tomorrow showing how to chop and place it in FL studio

word cant wait

[Malachi]

uh-oh do u want me to send ua basic drum beat

idk what else i can do after that tho

[Malachi]

https://soundcloud.com/malachi-thomas/sp3ll

i know its complete trash lol

i was tryna use like this loop i tried to chop or fl chopped for me

[Ghost1]

Lol member when that faggot dlb said premier bought one of his beats.


Haha.

[uh-oh]

https://soundcloud.com/malachi-thomas/sp3ll

i know its complete trash lol

i was tryna use like this loop i tried to chop or fl chopped for me

its not that bad theres no drums tho

im gonna teach you how to take big pieces and arrange them first

think like puzzles. im gonna give you a puzzle with big pieces for you to put together. as you advance you will be able to do bigger puzzles with smaller puzzle pieces if that makes sense

i failed making the vid yesterday while it was rendering i x'ed out like a retard and lost one

but now that i know what sample im gonna use it will be easier to make

i got you soon

practice arranging drums in the mean time tho. something that is good to do is recreate classic break drums.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrBQ2ebzEZ8

that video cuts some of them short, but that has alot of classic breakbeats used in hip hop, they are named in the description of that vid so you can search them out

a way you can improve your own drum programming, is to try and play along with those, with your own drums, make your own arrangements to match those or as close as you can at least for now, so you notice the patterns and similairities where alot of the drumsounds happen

like a kick on the 1 beat, a snare on the 2.

it might be better if i made pics instead of vids with arrows

i dunno

i got you soon tho

[Malachi]

How much work do u put in to this when u were learnin uh-oh

also can i see some of your beats just for some listening purposes

[Malachi]

uppin for uh-oh

[uh-oh]

im gonna try and do it again tomorrow

puttin that and the topical tourney off today lol. in chill modeeeeee

[Malachi]

wussgood uh-oh or did u have to move it back a lil hah

[uh-oh]

gotta move it back my bad man

was watching football and chilling yesterday, and work killed me today

i think i only have a half day tomorrow

expect something by this weekend at least, but probably sooner

[Malachi]

nah man its cool
im glad im gettin any help with this shit at all.
take yo time haha

[Malachi]

Uh oh you got any drum machines?

[uh-oh]

i have the mpd16

they dont make it anymore, but its basically exactly an mpd18

and i had the mpd32 but broke it.

they aint drum machines tho as much as a controller. like a glorified keyboard. they dont have sounds or any computer in them. you cant do anything with them without a computer and a program like FL studio

you can just use it to control fl studio basically

i never use it tho. its easier to just use my mouse

but yo i havent forgotten about this, the program i got i downloaded a cracked version, and everytime i try and save videos now it encounters an error and closes down

it worked the first couple times tho, so im gonna uninstall it and reinstall it see if that helps

[Malachi]

i have the mpd16

they dont make it anymore, but its basically exactly an mpd18

and i had the mpd32 but broke it.

they aint drum machines tho as much as a controller. like a glorified keyboard. they dont have sounds or any computer in them. you cant do anything with them without a computer and a program like FL studio

you can just use it to control fl studio basically

i never use it tho. its easier to just use my mouse

but yo i havent forgotten about this, the program i got i downloaded a cracked version, and everytime i try and save videos now it encounters an error and closes down

it worked the first couple times tho, so im gonna uninstall it and reinstall it see if that helps

what bout MPC
those seem popular

[uh-oh]

i want one

the mpcs and maschines are legit

you can do anything they can do in FL studio tho

i just want one so its more hands on. but their isnt any real advantage to having one over software

[Malachi]

whos your fav producer?

[uh-oh]

premier

but my style is completely different then premo's. mainly because everytime i've tried i fall short, and any internet or amateur beatmakers i've come across who try and make premo like beats always seems like they are falling short if that makes sense

like premo is a master of stabs, but he incorporates them with looped segments too, and some minor shit he plays out on the keys.

the reason he is my favorite is because im a big fan of "less is more". premiers beats alot of the time are very simple. in saying that, they aren't simple at all. but hmm

like premier will have a complex 2-4 bar loop. maybe a minor change up now and then. but thats his whole beat. what makes him DOPE is that he can build a 2-4 bar loop, that NEVER GETS OLD. it keeps looping, and its like everytime it comes around, you know exactly what sounds are gonna trigger, but its STILL dope.

[Malachi]

what about kkanye

like i never really cared about beats unless they were real dope

until like i was listening to kanyes full proects and then i was like wow

like diamonds from sierra leonne i love that
and lucifer he produced for jay z

here a cool vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdyyNJcNavw

[uh-oh]

word kanye's top 10 in my opinion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVtpXvzzXiA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjVGft5wqSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PfsuQgWLss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIS3KouPdgM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfQam8VtXoM

kanye has a ton of classic beats, in my opinion

i put him up there with just about anybody

[Malachi]

uh-oh youll think ull figure this shit by about monday?

[Certain]

I'm glad that you're this impatient with everyone.

[Malachi]

I'm glad that you're this impatient with everyone.

;)

[Malachi]

welll uh-oh

[Ghost1]

Space

[Malachi]

This aint a good look

but ill try one more time uh-oh

[uh-oh]

i still gotta get another screen recorder, kinda forgot about this lol

i'll keep it in mind tho i got you

it just sucks cuz i literally made it already like 3 times just the program dies when i save it lol

[PancakeBrah]

lol

uh-oh playing little malachi at this point

you sick bastard

[Malachi]

i still gotta get another screen recorder, kinda forgot about this lol

i'll keep it in mind tho i got you

it just sucks cuz i literally made it already like 3 times just the program dies when i save it lol

good to know u aint totally ditch me i guess

http://camstudio.org/

[Malachi]

i still gotta get another screen recorder, kinda forgot about this lol

i'll keep it in mind tho i got you

it just sucks cuz i literally made it already like 3 times just the program dies when i save it lol

so i tried doing something lol
i used like a sample from either a kit or fl studio
and used a few sampled short beat patterns but i put my own basic patterns too

its weak tho the way i tried to switch is up
was the weakest part
oh my

https://soundcloud.com/malachi-thomas/serious-beat-1

[uh-oh]

that wasnt bad at all for basically one of your first beats. i probably work the rest of the week but im gonna try and do something this weekend

downloaded that program you linked hopefully its better if not i'll find something

[Malachi]

Lol but yo

Can we get this started up again uh-oh you don't have to do all them videos if u don't want to. Just here for tips, a lil explaining when I'm stuck and/or critique if I do make shit.

But yea lol I prolly forgot mostly anything taught, dropped this but thought I'd pick it back up and work through out as soon as summer starts, as in today .

But yea wuss good?

[uh-oh]

for sure man i can hit you with feedback/critiques

i'd like to do vids too, but making one to teach is complicated and difficult, i might just start recording me messing around, and then i can post those, and if you have questions, like whatd you do at 6:47 in the vid i can be like oh yea i did this, and this is why i did that

either way tho i got you bro

[Malachi]

for sure man i can hit you with feedback/critiques

i'd like to do vids too, but making one to teach is complicated and difficult, i might just start recording me messing around, and then i can post those, and if you have questions, like whatd you do at 6:47 in the vid i can be like oh yea i did this, and this is why i did that

either way tho i got you bro

word gon look thru this thread and refresh my mem on this tommorow

[Malachi]

uh-oh

is there anything wrong wit using like drum samples where it makes the beat for u instead of u makin the beat and maybe addin a sample to that

u got a file of just random chopped samples ?

so far all i done made is that simple 2 part beat. on the first 22 min of that video

been tryna figure out how to add the sample wit random ones i was findin but those even had drums so idk

[uh-oh]

im not 100 percent positive on what you are saying.

if you mean like, the samples have drums in them. like you find a loop or chop for example, but there are drums in the background of it, thats gonna happen ALOT. the key is to chop with them, so you can arrange the chops so that when you do your drums, you're kind of playing along with the drums in the sample.

if that makes sense

if you mean using drumbreaks, like if you got a sample where there is a break like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqbEsS5kFb8

thats a classic drum break, the very beginning where its only drums has been sampled a billion times. example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUqLGRMrFAg

that track for example, has a beethoven sample, fur elise track for the piano, and the one bar break from impeach the president is the drums

there is nothing wrong with using a breaks drums. thats hip hop. when it all started, dudes would spin records, one record they'd be looping up break drums like that, manually just pulling the record back, and on the other turntable they could be triggering horn stabs, all live

when it got in the studio, it went to drum machines, which were terrible, but MARLEY MARL, started chopping breaks up, taking them one drum at a time, while others still just looped whole breaks

but word i dont know if this answers your question but hopefully it sheds light on something

im getting ready for work, when i get home i can give more examples

and give examples of samples, that HAVE drums already. like if that beethoven sample had drums, it doesnt but if it did, i'll show how a producer played his own drums over it to mask/disguise them

the good thing with hip hop is the drums are always in the forefront, where most genres of music you will be sampling, drums arent that up front in the mix, like in rock music, guitars and lead synths and shit are always highest in the mix, in soul music the drums usually slap, but strings, and horns and all that are mixed much higher

and just remember, the more time you put in, the better you are gonna get

[Malachi]

Yeah im tryna get atleast one done by this weeks timee

i can never get used to oh u just startin out, its spose to sound like shit lmao

but word so what your sayin is i can use drum breaks instead of actually puttin in the pattern myself. i hate that yo like i feel like if i could do it manually wit my hand shit would be smoother lol its hard for to me to press where i want it

and like are there samples out there wit like one instrument was my main question cause i was findin shit wit like vocals or whatever but it had drums so it was messin up my own drum pattern that i had and i was tryna get my pattern to match the samples but it turned shit

so like somethinn like maybe just a good voice or maybe just one instrument likee a piano or violin

and where would be a good place to download it and shit idk if u answered this before butt how would u know which part ud want to chop from an entire song, im guessin somethin that really stands out huh but word im watchin this warbeat tutorial before i sleep. tryna figure out the basics of all the things i can use (mixer)

ive been tryin to make a kick in the door remake . i chopped the part i wanted a long ass time if not a year ago but idk how to do it cause like it either to long or doesnt repeat how i want it to
uh-oh

edit: uh-oh this edison to chop was actually helpful this time

idk why i feel like it aint do much the first time. but yeah ima try it out soon just been gettin on here too late n shit

[RD McFly]

Uh oh, I vill be downloadisting some of your beets.

[uh-oh]

word do it up bro^

and malachi i hear you 1000 percent. there are absolutely single instrument type of songs to sample, like solo pianos, guitars, violins, its just difficult to dig for, but you can search for like pianists who release shit just playing the piano, alot of jazz has solo piano shit, alot of movies have just strings setting vibes you can take

as for sampling stuff that has drums, basically sampling actual full songs, with drums, vocals, and all of that, you gotta CHOP it up so it goes with your drums. i'll have to make a vid. thats really the only way i can describe it

but alot of the time you will work backwards, alot of producers do there drums first, then chop up a sample, but they have an understanding of how to chop with the drums in the sample. i chop first alot, and just think about the drums i would put overtop of there drums

like the down beat, like when the beat drops, is always gonna be a kick, you don't wanna start a chop on a snare (in the sample i mean. like you wanna take it where there is a kick in the drums in the sample) you wanna chop the snares too

its hard to describe i got that program working again i made a freddie gibbs thuggin remake i can upload this weekend too

i did it quick and its not perfect i didnt get parts of it right at all, but the main intro and main part of the beat is the same

that won't help with your problem with the drums really, but it shows you how a producer like madlib heard a sample, and how he chopped it

[Malachi]

word do it up bro^

and malachi i hear you 1000 percent. there are absolutely single instrument type of songs to sample, like solo pianos, guitars, violins, its just difficult to dig for, but you can search for like pianists who release shit just playing the piano, alot of jazz has solo piano shit, alot of movies have just strings setting vibes you can take

WORD

as for sampling stuff that has drums, basically sampling actual full songs, with drums, vocals, and all of that, you gotta CHOP it up so it goes with your drums. i'll have to make a vid. thats really the only way i can describe it

So you sayin if the sample has drums i chop off like the hits and then put it in the thing to tell it went to play them hits right? also full songs , could you give me like random songs to practice choppin/samplin

but alot of the time you will work backwards, alot of producers do there drums first, then chop up a sample, but they have an understanding of how to chop with the drums in the sample. i chop first alot, and just think about the drums i would put overtop of there drums

Word. a video is needed lol

like the down beat, like when the beat drops, is always gonna be a kick, you don't wanna start a chop on a snare (in the sample i mean. like you wanna take it where there is a kick in the drums in the sample) you wanna chop the snares too

its hard to describe i got that program working again i made a freddie gibbs thuggin remake i can upload this weekend too

dope


i did it quick and its not perfect i didnt get parts of it right at all, but the main intro and main part of the beat is the same

that won't help with your problem with the drums really, but it shows you how a producer like madlib heard a sample, and how he chopped it

did u give me a thing for samples like i cant remember but u gave me a file a long ass one bunch of music??

[Malachi]

so im choppin the instrumental of i put a spell on you

like the horn but idkk the chops sounds wierd

edit: oh shit i got a lil some

lmao idk this proly sound shitty as shit

[Malachi]

im making a soundcloud uh-oh


its like 3 seconds cause i didnt even like put it as a song

just want u to peep what im startin out wit
eh

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/nc-spells

[Malachi]

Up

[uh-oh]

i see what your doing, your trying to do to much tho. let me give you something easy to loop and chop

your trying to chop and arrange individual stabs and shit which can be dope, but you gotta get the understanding of structure and all that down, how to incorporate it within the parameters of the program before you can just go in and chop all crazy with the mouse lol

its one thing if you got pads and shit cuz your playing it live from your brain, but in FL your playing to a scrolling light thing moving through time haha.

but word peep this

http://www64.zippyshare.com/v/4983075/file.html

i just came across that the other night. real easy to take cool loops/chops

like you can chop that into one bar segments EASY. 4 beats, basically the default size of the main screen, with the little boxes you highlight in the pattern. called the step sequencer.

but word worry about bigger chops that you can play drums too, instead of small chops playing with your drums

its hard to explain typing but play with that sample see what you can get from it

i'll help with any technical questions.

[Malachi]

uh-oh i just could not find the perfect loop for that shit but yea workin on it

what if the chop ois to big and it cut its self before done?

like i got one like guitar part and it still seems longer than 1 bar

[uh-oh]

word i'll chop it up and try and do a vid this weekend

when listening to it, count it out. don't pay attention to individual instruments, as much as just the music as a whole

[Malachi]

uh-oh

ight, i should been watchin more vids idk
would the fruity slicer help


but word the best loop i can get is at the beggining where it starts wit the big strung of the guitar

[Malachi]

WHY CANT I FIND IT

this shit makin me mad ugh

like uh-oh do u start your chop at the beggining at the big hit?

i tried there but it feels like wit that it messes up the loop

[uh-oh]

my bad yo

been meaning to get back at this

http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr74/uhohitsuhoh/untitled_zps8a50e206.png

look at where i set the markers at in that. thats a different program, but thats that same sample.

those are 11, even in size, 1 bar chops.

basically if you take those chops i designated, you can time stretch them to 1 bar each, meaning whatever tempo you lock in, they will play to that speed, across the stepsequencer. this thing

http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr74/uhohitsuhoh/untitled2_zps26a12347.png

that is the step sequencer^. i have the first chop on there, and if you notice i got the first box(step) highlighted/filled in. when i hit play it immediately triggers that chop, and it will play for the whole duration of the loop, until it comes back around.

now unless you find the perfect tempo for it to loop back around naturally, you will want to time stretch. you can get by not doing it, but since you are chopping to the measures and beats in the source music, it will never be perfect. a real drummer doesnt have perfect computer timing. so 1 bar chops from the same song will be different lengths. not majorly different, but enough so that without timestretching, one bar might end a split second short causing a gap between chops, or the opposite, they can overlap.

so basically to time stretch that chop i have in the step sequencer above, bring up this screen by simply clicking the sound thing. the name or whatever.

http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr74/uhohitsuhoh/untitled3_zps21d03de2.png

1. this is the pitch knob. i'll get into this later lol.

2. THIS IS THE TIMESTRETCH KNOB. this is your best friend. now, the best way to use this, is to use the PRESETS. for this 1 bar chop, we know it is 1 bar in length. so instead of manually twisting the knob, you can just right-click it. this brings up a little menu, with varying chop lengths(1 beat, 2 beat, 1 bar, 2 bars, 3 bars, 4 bars. we want this to be 1 bar, so click that.

3. this determines what kind of time stretching we're doing. clicking it brings up another little dropdown/menu with a few options. 100 percent of the time you will want to use tonal. tonal means that it will sound like the original source, no matter what tempo its played at.

thats where #1 pitching comes in. if you want your chop to play faster than it originally sounds, if you use tonal and time stretch it, its gonna sound weird. the same as if you play it slower. if you leave #3 at resample, it does it for you, but it wont make them all sound the same, because like i mentioned before not all chops will ever be the exact same length. so if you don't pitch the chops yourself, they won't sound right.

so to recap, right click the time knob, choose 1 bar. click the resample menu and change it to TONAL.

then you do pitching. if you are making it faster, try pitching the sample up. turning the pitch knob to make it higher pitched. if you are making it slower, pitch the sample down, this will slow it down and make it lower pitched. pitching helps maintain the quality of the sample while its being time stretched to fit any tempo

now with the chop fitted and formatted to play and loop perfectly in the step sequencer, you can put your drums to it. here is the simple pattern. as you should know (or learn if you dont its all good) 1 bar, is 4 beats. meaning if you counted your headnods while listening to it, after the 4th nod, it loops back and starts over. 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4.

so here is a kick and snare pattern

http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr74/uhohitsuhoh/untitled4_zpsa70b60b7.png

BASIC

the kick starts off at the 1 beat. which is the drop, right when it starts/first box(step). that is ALWAYS gonna be there. no matter what the beat starts when the kick, KICKS in.

next the only other main CONSTANT in hip hop and most 4/4 music. the SNARE PLACEMENT. always on the 2 and 4. if you want it to get active, thats fine, as long as there is a snare on the 2 and 4. you only dont put one there when you're dropping it out.
when you get more advanced with your drum programming you will understand where to put it

i can make any beat you ever heards drums in that 1 bar step sequencer. i guarantee there is a kick on the 1, and snares on the 2 and 4. its just like a universal music law that makes humans nod there heads

what you do in between that is what makes it different.

you can bring in the hihats too you can do drumrolls with toms like dipset beats and all that too. its possible just by filling in boxes and patterns in that stepsequeuncer

but word, just when you are sampling, count your head nods in your head. know these basic principles

1 beat. 1 nod. basically just the first nod of your head. nothing else.
2 beats. 2 nods.
1 bar = 4 beats/nods
2 bars = 8 beats/nods
4 bars = 16 beats/nods

FL studio can timestretch any of those

so when you are chopping, think about the length of the chop, where to start it, and where to finish it

[Malachi]

@ uh-oh, how do u know where to put those markers? what they do

oh while countin okok
il try that now

the markers indicate where i have to chop?

lol i put the whole tihng in there


i think my timing wit it is shit. i put all the markers tere but i think the first marker is wrong
im not spose to hear the little like the guitar thing at the end of marker 1?

[uh-oh]

yea i just put the markers there so you can see how the music is structured

those are 11, 1 bar segments

the end of bar one has a couple guitar sounds before it loops back around.

i shouldve probably sent you a sample with drums in it, those are much easier to understand where to start and finish chops, but it sounded like drums were confusing you so i sent one without it.

i made this last night while i was taking those pics

http://www60.zippyshare.com/v/86158557/file.html

if you listen to that, when the beat drops, i have the first chop play 3 times, and then the 4th bar is the second chop as a change up

thats as simple as it gets really. you can hear the guitar kick in before it loops back around, you probably chopped right

[Malachi]

yea i just put the markers there so you can see how the music is structured

those are 11, 1 bar segments

the end of bar one has a couple guitar sounds before it loops back around.

i shouldve probably sent you a sample with drums in it, those are much easier to understand where to start and finish chops, but it sounded like drums were confusing you so i sent one without it.

i made this last night while i was taking those pics

http://www60.zippyshare.com/v/86158557/file.html

if you listen to that, when the beat drops, i have the first chop play 3 times, and then the 4th bar is the second chop as a change up

thats as simple as it gets really. you can hear the guitar kick in before it loops back around, you probably chopped right
lol idk

peep uh-oh

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/22-beat

i think when i tried to switch it up they were to different so it sounded awkward like mismatched

are my drums okay?

[uh-oh]

yea theyre cool man, there you go

now you got the basics down

now you basically just gotta dig and find stuff you want to sample

remember to count when chopping so you can time stretch correctly and fit drums to it etc

[Malachi]

yea theyre cool man, there you go

now you got the basics down

now you basically just gotta dig and find stuff you want to sample

remember to count when chopping so you can time stretch correctly and fit drums to it etc

dig where tho lol
and what bout that chop single hits and arrange wit drums

il work on that spell on you sample

yo when i count is it like by a second or do i fit the tempo
this sample playin got me messin up my timing lol

idk if ima try n remake kick in the door or


and yo uh-oh since you done been beatmaking a while

u should give me something diff to do each lesson like an objec i have to complete or sometin like flip a sample this wayy or mix these wit these drums or sum or how long to make it. diff patterns.

ion wanna slack nahmean

cause idk what else im doin after this, cant be the same technique right.

[uh-oh]

word man

i was thinking about that after this last post

im in a rush to drink some coffee and go to work but im gonna brainstorm some shit and give you the fundamentals

for now

when you count, you are counting the beats in the sample.

which is basically your head nods. nod along to the music you are sampling. if you nod 4 times, thats a 1 bar chop.

but yea i'll try and think of something

don't overdo it. right now you know HOW, whether you can put it into practice is a different matter, but you know how to timestretch stuff, you know how to put drums over it.

now what happens when you sample something with drums is a different matter, but its all the same

but word i gotta go i got you tho

[Malachi]

word man

i was thinking about that after this last post

im in a rush to drink some coffee and go to work but im gonna brainstorm some shit and give you the fundamentals

for now

when you count, you are counting the beats in the sample.

which is basically your head nods. nod along to the music you are sampling. if you nod 4 times, thats a 1 bar chop.

but yea i'll try and think of something

don't overdo it. right now you know HOW, whether you can put it into practice is a different matter, but you know how to timestretch stuff, you know how to put drums over it.

now what happens when you sample something with drums is a different matter, but its all the same

but word i gotta go i got you tho

word..
thanks for explainin that nod thing lol

the pitch thing seems to be a problem like bein able to match it

edit:
yo i found a good chop for this spell on you sample i feel like

but i cant find another good chop, but i want to add somethin to it tho

so i should go resample or whatever the song.

[Malachi]

uh-oh

what does it mean if i put tonal and it still sounds really sped up

[uh-oh]

a couple things could be doing it

1. the tempo of the beat/project. Fl studio's default tempo is 140 beats per minute. bpm. fl studio was originally intended for like techno/electric type music, most forms of music dont get that quick, so if you sample a soul song, chances are its original tempo might be like half that. 70 bpm. so really unless you match the tempo of the project it will always sound somewhat sped up, i try and at least bring it in the 80's range. quintessential hip hop is around 93 bpm.

2. you might have chopped wrong. you might think you have a 1 bar chop, but in reality it might be 1 and a half, or 1 bar and 1 beat. it might be a little longer than you thought, so when you time stretch it to 1 bar, you are condensing more than 1 bar of music to play as if it is 1 bar, this will speed it up. the best way to find out if you chopped too much/have a little extra is to put drums out over it and see if they line up right and it sounds like it should.

[El Muffin]

This shit sounds complicated as fuck

[uh-oh]

of course it is lol

any form of making music is gonna be complicated

you are learning an instrument. in this case that instrument is FL studio

this is just the beginning tho. he's getting it, it takes awhile.

[Malachi]

a couple things could be doing it

1. the tempo of the beat/project. Fl studio's default tempo is 140 beats per minute. bpm. fl studio was originally intended for like techno/electric type music, most forms of music dont get that quick, so if you sample a soul song, chances are its original tempo might be like half that. 70 bpm. so really unless you match the tempo of the project it will always sound somewhat sped up, i try and at least bring it in the 80's range. quintessential hip hop is around 93 bpm.

2. you might have chopped wrong. you might think you have a 1 bar chop, but in reality it might be 1 and a half, or 1 bar and 1 beat. it might be a little longer than you thought, so when you time stretch it to 1 bar, you are condensing more than 1 bar of music to play as if it is 1 bar, this will speed it up. the best way to find out if you chopped too much/have a little extra is to put drums out over it and see if they line up right and it sounds like it should.

this shit will be my downfall

u said the beat count in the sample is how much i nod my head

i cant nod my head to this shiitt ahh

icant even lie im not usin the markers but the song long asl and im not to put 22 markers on that bitc tryna keep count lol

[Malachi]

i might just start this shit entirely over.
uh-oh

2nd part seems most different speed.
doin to much maybeee

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/spells

[uh-oh]

yo you should get away from that biggie beat lol

that second part was slick tho

but yea man, shit

whosampled.com

thats a site^ where you can search songs and artists to see what samples were used to make the beats, you can use that as a resource to practice re-making beats and seeing how producers approached the samples.

now when you want to find stuff to sample, you have to dig. you got the entire internet at your disposal. here is a good blog for soul music

http://www.funkmysoul.gr/

when digging soul music, there are some key things i look for.

1. the year. 1965-1973 is my favorite time period. the way the records were recorded, the equipment they were recorded on, and all of that was perfect in that time period for hip hop. its dirty. its warm. its BIG. drums SLAP. horns sound good etc. now, thats not to say something from 1977 isnt good etc. its just preferences. around 75 and later, disco was getting HUGE and alot of soul artists tried there hand at it. disco is uptempo happy dance music. basically its terrible. so thats why i tend to stay in the early 70's. good soul music was made even into the 80's, its just harder to find. 9 out of 10 are gonna sound like disco.

also drum machines and synthesizers and stuff like that started becoming big, which 99 percent of the time is terrible for hip hop. you don't want to sample something that already sounds like a beat. you want to sample something that sounds like a BAND.

thats a good start there resource wise

blogs are your best friend. google soul blogs, jazz blogs, etc. people put up old records for download and thats how you can get alot of sample matierial

you can probably even find blogs that specialise in putting up sample worthy music. i stay away from those because its all been touched so much i dont even bother, but you being new its good to get your hands on GOOD samples, because its easy to get discouraged if you download 10 albums and don't make a beat from anything off any of them lol

[Malachi]

yo you should get away from that biggie beat lol

that second part was slick tho

but yea man, shit

whosampled.com

thats a site^ where you can search songs and artists to see what samples were used to make the beats, you can use that as a resource to practice re-making beats and seeing how producers approached the samples.

now when you want to find stuff to sample, you have to dig. you got the entire internet at your disposal. here is a good blog for soul music

http://www.funkmysoul.gr/

when digging soul music, there are some key things i look for.

1. the year. 1965-1973 is my favorite time period. the way the records were recorded, the equipment they were recorded on, and all of that was perfect in that time period for hip hop. its dirty. its warm. its BIG. drums SLAP. horns sound good etc. now, thats not to say something from 1977 isnt good etc. its just preferences. around 75 and later, disco was getting HUGE and alot of soul artists tried there hand at it. disco is uptempo happy dance music. basically its terrible. so thats why i tend to stay in the early 70's. good soul music was made even into the 80's, its just harder to find. 9 out of 10 are gonna sound like disco.

also drum machines and synthesizers and stuff like that started becoming big, which 99 percent of the time is terrible for hip hop. you don't want to sample something that already sounds like a beat. you want to sample something that sounds like a BAND.

thats a good start there resource wise

blogs are your best friend. google soul blogs, jazz blogs, etc. people put up old records for download and thats how you can get alot of sample matierial

you can probably even find blogs that specialise in putting up sample worthy music. i stay away from those because its all been touched so much i dont even bother, but you being new its good to get your hands on GOOD samples, because its easy to get discouraged if you download 10 albums and don't make a beat from anything off any of them lol

uh-oh
the 2nd part as in the saxophone or whatever wind instrument that was lol?

and ight ill pause on the big beat for a min was gon restart anyway.
ill look at them site, already heard of who sampled

so when diggin do yall listen to them or pick random ones . download and then look for yall sample?

im just look for some people ive heard of lol

Okay so u didnt mention what to download so right now
im downloading

Isaac hayes - Black Moses
The isley brothers - 3+3

lmaoo at one download per hour
and takes an hour to finish download

i will be look for another music blog but i cant find a good one for sample worthy music its more like forums i see poppin up

yo this is all i could kinda find for download and oldie shit
http://soundsofthe70s.blogspot.com/

http://www.whosampled.com/song-tag/Soul/sampled/1/
http://www.whosampled.com/song-tag/Reggae/sampled/1/

[uh-oh]

yea you can download/sample whatever. you don't need to have it in your mind, like oh shit ima sample isaac hayes or al green etc. its good to go through there stuff tho, anyone you can think of, they all have good shit, its been sampled alot before, but for learning purposes its good to trek through them

but really its called diggin because you are searching for gold. you want to get stuff you don't know anything about as well, you want to get stuff you don't think ANYONE knows about. now with the internet if its on here chances are someones touched it at least once. but you never know, everyone hears songs different

think about how YOU want to flip it.

but for now just look for some 1 bar chops, when you can string some patterns together, make some cool loops, on your own, out of something you yourself found

then i can help you understand more intricate chops, so you can do more with the sample, making your own melodies from it and all that, and still keeping it crisp

and then when you understand how to make basically every timestretchable chop and can use them all when listening to a sample

i can get into more stab type sampling, like single sounds. if you try and do that now it only muddies the waters of the clean chops you can time stretch

like think of it this way

i'm giving you a puzzle with big somewhat easy to solve pieces, once you can do these puzzles enough where its not a problem, then you'll graduate to more complex puzzles with smaller pieces, and then you will graduate to the smallest most complex pieces

and then you'll be ready to create your own puzzles. meaning taking single sounds and layering them

but the best beats incorporate all of the above

you might hear a beat that is a 4 bar loop of a sample and think, damn that is pretty easy. but the drums could be chopped in 1/2 beats or even 1/4 beats and rearranged to make a whole new pattern, there might be string stabs over top etc.

but some of the best beats are simple loops

[uh-oh]

i talk to much

im giving you to much to take in, i have to much alcohol in my system and focusing on my spelling is taking away from my ability to focus on being coherent.

basically, sample anything that sounds dope and you can make work

if it don't work move on to the next one

if you get hung up post a sample you are messing with and an example of what you were thinking of doing or whatever

and i can try and break it down

its the weekend too, on weekdays im too tired after work to really mess with anything but i can do stuff on the weekends

[Malachi]

i talk to much

im giving you to much to take in, i have to much alcohol in my system and focusing on my spelling is taking away from my ability to focus on being coherent.

basically, sample anything that sounds dope and you can make work

if it don't work move on to the next one

if you get hung up post a sample you are messing with and an example of what you were thinking of doing or whatever

and i can try and break it down

its the weekend too, on weekdays im too tired after work to really mess with anything but i can do stuff on the weekends

word man.

ima just listen to the albums, see what id thinkd be cool

[Malachi]

just wanna get atleast one done soonn

[Malachi]

uh-oh

how do i chop shit wit drums in it already

i mean how much can i do to shit wit drums on it already

im askin cause ive been listenin to these albums(they kinda go hord)

but every sec theres a drum hit and i cant find a solo or nun

edit: smh lol this track summer breeze i instantly rememberd a song that sampled it and ill prolly work on that. cause thats one i heard wit a part wit no drums

summer breezes
the highway of my life

[uh-oh]

sampling stuff with drums is easier, you can count stuff out much easier, know what i mean, just count your head nods

kick, snare, kick, snare. bam

loop it up, you will want to have your drums play overtop the drums in the sample, to sort of mask them

[Malachi]

uh-oh

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/summa-breeze

listen to it all 1 mins of it lol

what do u think

I think the guitar shoulda been left out but i wanted to see if i could use it tho, the guitar part is 2 diff patterns
i had wanted to see if i could add like a lil humm from the singer but i couldnt find a timing right for a good loop

u think i could do more to it?

but word ima try to chop shit wit drums for the next one.
and yoo i need to memorize them drum breaks cause im doin the same basic ones lol

[uh-oh]

dope, your already getting the structure and shit, how to arrange them, you set up a nice pattern with the piano chops, the guitar parts could be left out, but they work,

the main thing im getting from this is the drums, they work but remember less is more alot of the time. you like alot of people starting out, do to much. it works, but it feels like your drumming just to do it, rather than drumming to compliment the groove your creating.

its not bad and not terribly overdone tho

also you can incorporate other drum sounds, i'll make my next little tutorial on that

but yea man i'm impressed, you are catching on quick, just keep doing what you are doing

[uh-oh]

what i mean by incorporating other sounds, alot of times with a basic kick/snare/hihat pattern its easy to overdo it with them, whether its the kick/snare or whatever. if you dont overdo it, it might sound empty.

to compensate and keep the groove simple, but still busy enough to not feel empty, you can use other sounds, like percussion type instruments. cymbals, congas/bongos, toms, tamborines etc

i'll go into more on how to use those types of drums this weekend or sometime this week if im not a lazy bum after work

[Malachi]

what i mean by incorporating other sounds, alot of times with a basic kick/snare/hihat pattern its easy to overdo it with them, whether its the kick/snare or whatever. if you dont overdo it, it might sound empty.

to compensate and keep the groove simple, but still busy enough to not feel empty, you can use other sounds, like percussion type instruments. cymbals, congas/bongos, toms, tamborines etc

i'll go into more on how to use those types of drums this weekend or sometime this week if im not a lazy bum after work

Wordd @ doin to much wit drumss, i doesnt be sure where to put and usually go wit a drum break

So if i use different stuff instead of just a kick n snare , it wont be able to over do it?

thanks man

Ima try to look for something to work on from the Issac Hayes shit

[uh-oh]

you can always overdo it, its just easiest to overdo it with the kick and the snare since they are the main aspects of drums

[Malachi]

you can always overdo it, its just easiest to overdo it with the kick and the snare since they are the main aspects of drums

Word
but yo
I always have this feelin like there should b emore to it
idk

but im startin sum new wit this Isaac Hayes - GOin in circles

[Malachi]

wtf ok so this never happened before but im usin edison and when im tryna highlight a part its jumpin from like a segment to a segment instead of a free thing

edit: fixed it
uh-oh, i just wanna know for later.

When people got like a lil singin in they beat , do they have to get like a acapella or they just match it like everything else
and vice versa wat if a nice as part is there but someone on top of it and u dont want em, im guessin just find the instruemntal version?

[uh-oh]

all of the above, but 99 percent of the time its in a chop over music/drums

you just gotta chop and fit it in

your still doing 1 bar chops and stuff, i'll go into it more when you get to the smaller chops

[Malachi]

all of the above, but 99 percent of the time its in a chop over music/drums

you just gotta chop and fit it in

your still doing 1 bar chops and stuff, i'll go into it more when you get to the smaller chops

I know i chopped this shit right mann. every time the drums hit i counted 1 beat. but this soundin sped tf up on a 75 tempo

ill work on it and post it before i think of countin faster in case i really didnt coutn wrong i swear i didnt tho man

cause this how the beat kinda went
ever drum thing i heard i did a count
the tsk is the hi hat ig in the song


in the beginnin it was like count tsk tsk count tsk tsk count tsk tsk count then i put a marker

if i count by the kcik, snare , kick , snare

thats right , right?

should hi-hats always be every other 2

[uh-oh]

you counted right, but make sure you do it

count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk

you want the hihats after too so it loops around right, so your chop ends right before the next "count"

but thats not the problem you ran into i don't think, the problem is the song you are chopping isnt in 4/4, i know exactly what you are talking about tho you will run across those alot in sampling.

you either have to want it sped up, or you have to chop different, and its very hard, i suck at it myself and it doesnt work sometimes

basically a 4/4 pattern is more like

count, tsk, count, tsk, count, tsk, count, tsk,

with just the one main hihat inbetween kicks and snares, when you run into slower stuff, with two counts, its actually a completely different structure, im not sure what it is exactly, i aint musically trained classically, like i don't know if its 3/4 or 4/3, but it isnt 4/4 lol

but i got beats chopping those kinds of things its some of the more advanced stuff i do tho

but i can probably make a beat vid about it.

the main thing is when you do drums, snares will be in there same place if you count and chop right, but you will never match the hihats with the boxes/steps in the stepsequencer. alot of the time the kicks are in time with the hihats too

to place them right you will have to use the piano roll

i'll make a vid doing just that.

if you want upload the song you are trying to sample, tomorrow or saturday i will make a quick vid showing you how to place drums and a couple ways to chop those types of samples

[Malachi]

you counted right, but make sure you do it

count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk

you want the hihats after too so it loops around right, so your chop ends right before the next "count"

but thats not the problem you ran into i don't think, the problem is the song you are chopping isnt in 4/4, i know exactly what you are talking about tho you will run across those alot in sampling.

you either have to want it sped up, or you have to chop different, and its very hard, i suck at it myself and it doesnt work sometimes

basically a 4/4 pattern is more like

count, tsk, count, tsk, count, tsk, count, tsk,

with just the one main hihat inbetween kicks and snares, when you run into slower stuff, with two counts, its actually a completely different structure, im not sure what it is exactly, i aint musically trained classically, like i don't know if its 3/4 or 4/3, but it isnt 4/4 lol

but i got beats chopping those kinds of things its some of the more advanced stuff i do tho

but i can probably make a beat vid about it.

the main thing is when you do drums, snares will be in there same place if you count and chop right, but you will never match the hihats with the boxes/steps in the stepsequencer. alot of the time the kicks are in time with the hihats too

to place them right you will have to use the piano roll

i'll make a vid doing just that.

if you want upload the song you are trying to sample, tomorrow or saturday i will make a quick vid showing you how to place drums and a couple ways to chop those types of samples

im not musically inclined either so im not sure i got half of what u said
but okay ill see if i can put up sum tommorow on soundcloud n shit

word i was gon ask u bout the piano roll? what is that actually for . is it like what drum machines where u can hit at the exact time u want manually and u can controll the pitch too right?

okok word i see yea vid would be cool

so you sayin that i can never match the hi-hats on the sample wit the step sequencer? but can find it on the snare ok ok

but am i spose to match the snare and kick on the sample wit my own snare and kick i found?

[Malachi]

uh-oh

here

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/cipher

the first two chops sound sped up but the other parts not so much

idk i just threw the drums so id have sumtin to show but even then i dont think they complimentin the sample or not. i was thinkin findin a drum break but thought thatd be too much.

icant imagine shit i made bein rapped on lol

[Certain]

I like the sample, but you need harder drums and a deeper bass.

[Greed]

When in doubt, add heavy bass

[Malachi]

I like the sample, but you need harder drums and a deeper bass.

Word at the drums, thanks

uhh how do i add more bass? uh-oh

aint that just how the drum hit sounds

[Malachi]

So I was tryna figure out a simple way to add more bass and i went on the mixer and used this shit called Soundgoodizer and bass booster.

not sure if that what i shouldve done. but doesnt sound that bad to me

its tight how much shit / features in fl tho

[uh-oh]

word malachi, my bad i had to work yesterday kind of fucked up my weekend

but yea when i do get around to making my next vid i'll try and focus on the piano roll drum programming

and the mixer

so i'll show you how to bring the bass up in the sample itself.

i use the soundgoodiser too, i use it at the end tho, and only on the master channel, and i don't use alot of it. like i turn the knob so its only like 1/4 highlighted.

also you can play basslines as well, im terrible at it, so i kind of chop for basslines as well and filter/sample them but that gets complicated

i don't want to throw too much at you at once

[uh-oh]

but you chopped that sample right, and the drums were fine

[Certain]

The drums were on point, just not loud enough.

[Malachi]

word malachi, my bad i had to work yesterday kind of fucked up my weekend

but yea when i do get around to making my next vid i'll try and focus on the piano roll drum programming

and the mixer

so i'll show you how to bring the bass up in the sample itself.

i use the soundgoodiser too, i use it at the end tho, and only on the master channel, and i don't use alot of it. like i turn the knob so its only like 1/4 highlighted.

also you can play basslines as well, im terrible at it, so i kind of chop for basslines as well and filter/sample them but that gets complicated

i don't want to throw too much at you at once

when you say basslines? u mean from a guitar or

and word good to know i sampled it right? how does it overral sound then.

and so ive sampled these two beats, i feel like they uncomplete .

should i go onto the next one, ig just to practice til u can get that vid up? i mean i can always practice. just not sure what to move onto next

[Malachi]

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/cipher
Certain , uh-oh

Do yall like this better ? i enhanced some stuff. Is the bass better.

[Certain]

Yeah. That's really good.

[uh-oh]

when you say basslines? u mean from a guitar or

and word good to know i sampled it right? how does it overral sound then.

and so ive sampled these two beats, i feel like they uncomplete .

should i go onto the next one, ig just to practice til u can get that vid up? i mean i can always practice. just not sure what to move onto next

basslines, yes they can be from bass guitar, hip hop also uses synth basses

and yea you can move onto the next ones, just keep chopping samples and arranging patterns and doing drums etc

im going to want to teach you more complicated chops eventually but before that i can teach you other ins and outs


piano roll programming, be it drums or virtual instruments like bass.

mixing, and how to use the mixer

mixing is like a whole area in an of itself, there is the "theory" i guess you would call it. like the basic set of rules for hip hop. kicks and snares in the forefront being loud, bass centered/mono etc. shit like that

but then you also have like effects and shit. how to use filters, eq's, compression stuff like that

ill get more into those things once i teach that i'll go to 2 beat and 1 beat chops

and remember you can take 2 bar, and 4 bar chops as well

its all about what you hear when you listen to a sample. there might be a dope 2 bar loop, and you play it 3 times, and then a 1 bar loop twice for a change up

the possibillities are endless

[Malachi]

basslines, yes they can be from bass guitar, hip hop also uses synth basses

and yea you can move onto the next ones, just keep chopping samples and arranging patterns and doing drums etc

im going to want to teach you more complicated chops eventually but before that i can teach you other ins and outs


piano roll programming, be it drums or virtual instruments like bass.

mixing, and how to use the mixer

mixing is like a whole area in an of itself, there is the "theory" i guess you would call it. like the basic set of rules for hip hop. kicks and snares in the forefront being loud, bass centered/mono etc. shit like that

but then you also have like effects and shit. how to use filters, eq's, compression stuff like that

ill get more into those things once i teach that i'll go to 2 beat and 1 beat chops

and remember you can take 2 bar, and 4 bar chops as well

its all about what you hear when you listen to a sample. there might be a dope 2 bar loop, and you play it 3 times, and then a 1 bar loop twice for a change up

the possibillities are endless

word at basses, how do i get em

and u gon make the video out of piano roll/mixing? word word
what the point of those other like mixing channels anyway besides the main one.

2-4 bar chops? wont that sound sped up?

speakin of the change up is there like a map of a beat? like you know what i mean


Like the parts of it, thats why i feel like it aint done.

Like u got your main part and then u get yo chorus right?

but ight ill look for another song to sample

[Malachi]

soul music is just dope tbh

[uh-oh]

its my favorite music

i listen to it more than anything else

[Malachi]

2-4 bar chops? wont that sound sped up?

speakin of the change up is there like a map of a beat? like you know what i mean




Like u got your main part and then u get yo chorus right?


uh-oh

[uh-oh]

16 BAR VERSE

8 BAR HOOK.

intros/outros can be whatever.

most of the time my beats are structured like this, but keep in mind choruses and verses can be switched up. don't gotta start with the hook every time, you can drop right into the verse and then switch to the chorus etc


4 bar intro
8 bar chorus/hook
16 bar verse
8 bar chorus
16 bar verse
8 bar chorus
4 bar outro


now in some genres and some hip hop you can do bridges too

it would be like

16 bar verse
8 bar chorus
8 bar bridge
16 bar verse

so basically after the hook/chorus, there might be a bridge, rappers like 50 utilise that shit, he's the best at it because its usually like a sing songy type piece "bridging" it back to the verse. usually memorable like hooks because its a change up but brings it back

but word just have a start, verses and hooks alternating and your good

you can structure it however you want tho, you can have a 32 bar verse lol or more

just try and keep it in normal bars tho that make sense, not like 33 bar verses lol

[Malachi]

uh-oh when u said the 2-4 bars chops thoo how wouldnt that sound sped uo the step sequencer and whaterver.

and shit thats long lol

[uh-oh]

when you time stretch a chop, look at your options, its not just 1 bar

its

1 beat
2 beats
1 bar
2 bar
3 bar
4 bar

so if you take a longer chop, 4 bars in length, when you click the drop down, dont hit "1 bar" that will make it sped up, put it on the 4 bar option

you are telling the program how long it is basically.

this works with the other lengths as well

if you want a 2 beat chop (half of 1 bar is 2 beats) you only take a 2 beat chop, instead of a whole 1 bar chop.

those options are whats available

you can take any size chop you want. about as small as you will ever chop is a half of a beat.

thats like a 1 bar chop cut in 8 even pieces. there is no preset for that in the dropdown, and that lesson is for another day

but basically you can timestretch all the lengths i listed above in the timestretch drop down when you right click the time knob

i might have a 1 bar loop 12 time and then have a 4 bar loop take it into a hook/chorus section.

you can do any combination of chop lengths to arrange sample chops to make your own shit, or to vibe with the sample

[Malachi]

oh okay wordd,

[Malachi]

lol idk why but countin the beat to chop is fun

[Malachi]

uh-oh

you know the step sequencer? u can make it longer. will ther ever be a reason to do that?

[Split]

close this garbage, PMs or Skype him you scrawny faggot

[Malachi]

close this garbage, PMs or Skype him you scrawny faggot

My bad this aint another thread you can be unfunny in.

Just dont enter . thanks

[uh-oh]

uh-oh

you know the step sequencer? u can make it longer. will ther ever be a reason to do that?

absolutely

i make most my beats in 4 bar sections, the default is 1 bar. you basically in the top left, click and scroll up to "16"

that makes the step sequencer 16 beats in length

4 beats = 1 bar

16 beats = 4 bars

i do it like this because i can make a whole 1/4 of the verse basically, or half a hook, with one pattern. instead of 4 individual patterns

but yea its all basic math

4 beats = 1 bar

8 beats = 2 bars

16 beats = 4 bars

shit man i promise i'll make a more in depth vid. i'll drop something 2 hours long if i have to and cover the majority of everything

then when you got a question i can point you to a specific time in the video too if needed

im gonna use sound forge as well in the vid, i cant chop in FL like i like to where i can save all the chops i take individually as wavs in an outside folder

but yea word

[Malachi]

when you time stretch a chop, look at your options, its not just 1 bar

its

1 beat
2 beats
1 bar
2 bar
3 bar
4 bar

so if you take a longer chop, 4 bars in length, when you click the drop down, dont hit "1 bar" that will make it sped up, put it on the 4 bar option

you are telling the program how long it is basically.

this works with the other lengths as well

if you want a 2 beat chop (half of 1 bar is 2 beats) you only take a 2 beat chop, instead of a whole 1 bar chop.

those options are whats available

you can take any size chop you want. about as small as you will ever chop is a half of a beat.

thats like a 1 bar chop cut in 8 even pieces. there is no preset for that in the dropdown, and that lesson is for another day

but basically you can timestretch all the lengths i listed above in the timestretch drop down when you right click the time knob

i might have a 1 bar loop 12 time and then have a 4 bar loop take it into a hook/chorus section.

you can do any combination of chop lengths to arrange sample chops to make your own shit, or to vibe with the sample

so yo i tried this shit

and had like marked 2 chops on the sample but i thought itd be easier to work wit the 2 bar way. so i delete the middle marker to make it a selection of a two bar chop then i put that in the step sequencer and then i selected 2 bars and tonal. the shit was still over lappin?

[Malachi]

ion think i like the way this one goin the chops uglyy lol at first i thought they sound nice n shit

[uh-oh]

so yo i tried this shit

and had like marked 2 chops on the sample but i thought itd be easier to work wit the 2 bar way. so i delete the middle marker to make it a selection of a two bar chop then i put that in the step sequencer and then i selected 2 bars and tonal. the shit was still over lappin?
did you make the step sequencer 2 bars too?

change the thing in the corner to "8" so its like twice as long, with 8 beats instead of 4?

[Split]

No ones trying to be funny

This shit isn't rocket science. Stoner college dropouts learn this shit between double-shifts at Dunks. Take some initiative

[Malachi]

No ones trying to be funny

This shit isn't rocket science. Stoner college dropouts learn this shit between double-shifts at Dunks. Take some initiative

Fuck out my thread dude lol

There's people here who do this shit so why not ask them about it.

[Split]

BECAUSE IT TAKES UP ROOM ON MY POOR MAN MOBILE SCREEN

HAVE U NO HEART

[uh-oh]

sig faby get out

this is hands down the best thread on this site

[Malachi]

uh-oh

been working on this

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/no-more @ 70 tempo

i wanted to see if i could tie in vocals whihc was 4 bars for the intro and added drums to it.

not sure if i over did it wit drums or not cause it kinda felt empty without what i have now but word.

what you think

[Malachi]

absolutely


i do it like this because i can make a whole 1/4 of the verse basically, or half a hook, with one pattern. instead of 4 individual patterns




word that seems way simpler for putting it together . ill be tryin this

[veritas]

uh-oh

been working on this

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/no-more

i wanted to see if i could tie in vocals whihc was 4 bars for the intro and added drums to it.

not sure if i over did it wit drums or not cause it kinda felt empty without what i have now but word.

what you think


That's dope for real. Feeling it.

[Malachi]

That's dope for real. Feeling it.

thanks man

[Certain]

I like a lot about that. But what's up with all the skipping?

[Malachi]

I like a lot about that. But what's up with all the skipping?

i see what u mean, lol idk ill fix it tho

[uh-oh]

dope, i dig it yo

that main part of the beat is dope, before that tho, the section after the part with vocals, its either the drums in the sample, i think so anyways, not lining up right so toward the end of the chop or whatever its a little off

but i dig that yo

really coming along, getting structure and such down

keep bangin em out

[Malachi]

dope, i dig it yo

that main part of the beat is dope, before that tho, the section after the part with vocals, its either the drums in the sample, i think so anyways, not lining up right so toward the end of the chop or whatever its a little off

but i dig that yo

really coming along, getting structure and such down

keep bangin em out

yeah i peeped that while i was workin on it think its the sample. ill fix it

word

[Malachi]

uh-oh

showin u what ive been workin wit

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/rough


.


was 93 tempo

prolly got to fix up the drums, i always feel the transition to one part isnt smooth like its abrupt like what do you think?

[Malachi]

uh-oh

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/rough

kinda done wit it ig.
on the outro i furged out how to fade out the sample an shit

but yea whats thinkk

[DLB]

you're getting good at this Malachi

[Malachi]

Thanks

[uh-oh]

word man you got this bro that was solid too

im gonna be busy this weekend but i will make a new vid soon, long thorough one

[Malachi]

think this one gon be my best one yet

[Malachi]

uh-oh

not finished but i think this one is goin well

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/blue-city

this is like the foundation , rough draft u could say. its at 93 bpm.
i dont want to do too much wit the drums shit i just like it at the 12 12 yknow but i dont want it to be to empty you know

i tried samplin two songs this time but the sample from the second song is just in the bridge

what you think?

[Malachi]

uh-oh added the drums
think i ruined it tbhh

compare this one: https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/blue-city-1
wit the older version
and tell me what u think

[Malachi]

^

[uh-oh]

ima peep these after work

[uh-oh]

first versions cool. snare might be a little too loud, maybe the sample could just be turned up more in the mid/highs, im listening through my monitors tho my headphones are dead at the moment but it seems bassy enough. but yea this is slickness and all the samples vibe

second version you definately ruined haha

drums are way to active

maybe if you did that as a change up like every 4 bars it would work better, but yea i mean there is sections where its sick, like with the vocals the drum spazzes were dope, before the "bridge" part im guessing, with the crazy horn and shit that was cool too

but yea i mean those drums aint bad during the hook/bridge part, but just let the one two kick snare drive the main patterns cuz the bassline in the sample and guitar or whatever are doing enough to drive the groove

[Malachi]

first versions cool. snare might be a little too loud, maybe the sample could just be turned up more in the mid/highs, im listening through my monitors tho my headphones are dead at the moment but it seems bassy enough. but yea this is slickness and all the samples vibe

second version you definately ruined haha

drums are way to active

maybe if you did that as a change up like every 4 bars it would work better, but yea i mean there is sections where its sick, like with the vocals the drum spazzes were dope, before the "bridge" part im guessing, with the crazy horn and shit that was cool too

but yea i mean those drums aint bad during the hook/bridge part, but just let the one two kick snare drive the main patterns cuz the bassline in the sample and guitar or whatever are doing enough to drive the groove
is this better ?
https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/blue-city-v3

i kept the two kicks at where he made a mouth noise

but i took out one of the kicksnarekick in hte main and just had one at the end of the 4 bars like u recommended

[DLB]

fire shit mal, 1st version hot, same with 3rd version. just needs some EQ in certain areas and some editing through the track, but it's good

2nd version is ruined by two much drum action as uhoh said.

u have been getting the idea of sampling though, what songs did you sample?

[Malachi]

DLB

Marvin Gaye's - What's Happening Brother & Inner City Blues

I'm not even sure what EQ Is lol

[DLB]

DLB

Marvin Gaye's - What's Happening Brother & Inner City Blues

I'm not even sure what EQ Is lol

gotcha

EQ is Equalizer. easier saying, it's used for different distributions and touch-ups to various sounds, like if u wanted to use the bass of a sample or add more treble to it, EQ is for that. i'll give u an example w/ a beat i've been working on just for the fuk of it

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12877154

listen to how the snares, etc have more depth in certain areas and fill the sound. i still need to tweak it a bit, but it was just for example. i used a sample and stole a lot of the bass out of it to use, threw in a synth as well. i think every thing in that was eq'd to give more depth

EDIT: you must be using the uh-oh drum kit, ur drums sound somewhat so crisp for no EQ. you prob wont even need to if u have good enough EQ'd sounds tbh

[Malachi]

word DLB ill try figuring that out workin next timee . might just use it on my older ones actually.
uh-oh hows the vid goin?

meanwhile ill be startin a new one ig

[Certain]

uh-oh, you in for a topical battle?

Topic choices (you can pick):

The Empire's Fall
Saving the Savages
Blood Brothers

Max length: 32 lines.
Due in a week.

[uh-oh]

certain, i want to accept but i know inevitably i would no show for two reasons. right now i want to write, but when the time comes to write, i won't want too. and on the offchance i do find a half hour block to key up perfection like i USUALLY DO, 32 lines isnt enough

when the aowl comes back i'll sign up for that or something tho

but in case you were wondering

the empires fall would be a tale of a rogue sorceror slowly poisoning the emperor and manipulating him with fear to do the sorcerors bidding until the people get so neglected they riot and the emperors own guard comes after him and in the midst of he chaos the sorceror destroys the entire city of NOVA and the end. thats what i would be trying to fit in 32.

saving the savages i would flip, it would be about a roman type army moving through unconquered lands, with a "savage" guide. they are coming to conquer and the "savage" knows his people are gonna murk the roman dudes, and he views the romans as savages that need saving, sure they got aqueducts but they don't have spiritual peace, so instead of leading them to there deaths on swords where they will be denied salvation he leads them to there deaths in the cold of the mountains

blood brothers inspires nothing in me. maybe gladitorial things. couple roman gladiators in an upstart college looking out for eachother on there climb to glory in a shitty roman upstart town. they fight mountain trolls(gorillas) and die. the end.

[uh-oh]

malachi im gonna try and make time this weekend fasho.

since you got the basics down im gonna go more advanced, maybe just with FL functions instead of chopping smaller. because it requires less explanation

the chopping tutorials are a bit more involved and tough to do because i'll be wanting to type in notepad explaining what im doing to much.

but word i got a couple vids to do

[Split]

what instruments going at 49:42??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBIVd-UqhYw

trap drum thingy


how do i make simple/ garbage trap beats?

[Certain]

certain, i want to accept but i know inevitably i would no show for two reasons. right now i want to write, but when the time comes to write, i won't want too. and on the offchance i do find a half hour block to key up perfection like i USUALLY DO, 32 lines isnt enough

when the aowl comes back i'll sign up for that or something tho

but in case you were wondering

the empires fall would be a tale of a rogue sorceror slowly poisoning the emperor and manipulating him with fear to do the sorcerors bidding until the people get so neglected they riot and the emperors own guard comes after him and in the midst of he chaos the sorceror destroys the entire city of NOVA and the end. thats what i would be trying to fit in 32.

saving the savages i would flip, it would be about a roman type army moving through unconquered lands, with a "savage" guide. they are coming to conquer and the "savage" knows his people are gonna murk the roman dudes, and he views the romans as savages that need saving, sure they got aqueducts but they don't have spiritual peace, so instead of leading them to there deaths on swords where they will be denied salvation he leads them to there deaths in the cold of the mountains

blood brothers inspires nothing in me. maybe gladitorial things. couple roman gladiators in an upstart college looking out for eachother on there climb to glory in a shitty roman upstart town. they fight mountain trolls(gorillas) and die. the end.

Just write one of those up and then post it. Shit, I'm not calling you out because of a grudge. I just wanted to see you write something real. I figured those topics would be up your alley.

[Malachi]

uh-oh

You ever go out of yo comfort zone like try something other than soulful beats.

I was thinking of making some trip hop shit or reggae samples but been holdin off on the reggae shit.

Also good look on the vid, take yo time

[uh-oh]

i stay away from trip hop since its kind of already hip hopish. like its beats already know what i mean. i tend to only sample stuff that isnt hip hop, and make it hip hop

but yea i sample soul mostly just cuz its what speaks to me

but i also go for movie soundtracks, library music soundtracks from europe (its like instrumental stuff, background music for stuff), rock occasionally there is just so much trash tho i stay away from it. but when you find a dope rock sample its usually EXTREMELY dope. just alot harder to find something inspiring. i sample gospel but thats more in the same vein as soul, i've sampled video game music, i've sampled reggae

sample anything really.

i just try and stay in the 1968-1975 range. but again you can find dope stuff before then, and after that, i just tend to find doper stuff in those years

[uh-oh]

Just write one of those up and then post it. Shit, I'm not calling you out because of a grudge. I just wanted to see you write something real. I figured those topics would be up your alley.

word man i need to write more

[Malachi]

i stay away from trip hop since its kind of already hip hopish. like its beats already know what i mean. i tend to only sample stuff that isnt hip hop, and make it hip hop

but yea i sample soul mostly just cuz its what speaks to me

but i also go for movie soundtracks, library music soundtracks from europe (its like instrumental stuff, background music for stuff), rock occasionally there is just so much trash tho i stay away from it. but when you find a dope rock sample its usually EXTREMELY dope. just alot harder to find something inspiring. i sample gospel but thats more in the same vein as soul, i've sampled video game music, i've sampled reggae

sample anything really.

i just try and stay in the 1968-1975 range. but again you can find dope stuff before then, and after that, i just tend to find doper stuff in those years

Nah I think u took it wrong I don't wanna sample trip hop I wanna like make it. But idk where to start and its just to try my hand at it

[Malachi]

uh-oh

most recent thing ive made
at 80 tempo
theres like a 40 sec intro i tried workin wit a lil

yea tell me what u think, ill be tryin to figure out this triphop shit n fuckin around in the program meanwhile

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/temptation

also u started on the vid or nah?

[big baby]

this nigga DLB said "certains area" twice in the last page

gay

[uh-oh]

uh-oh

most recent thing ive made
at 80 tempo
theres like a 40 sec intro i tried workin wit a lil

yea tell me what u think, ill be tryin to figure out this triphop shit n fuckin around in the program meanwhile

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/temptation

also u started on the vid or nah?

nah, but i got the next 8 days off so its coming

the intro was cool a bit lengthy tho, the beat was dopeee tho. drums worked. wasnt the biggest fan of the hook section but it vibes. the main verse sections are dope

im happy that i dont have to critique your SOUNDS. its just the placement and with this one it worked so its all good

i got you on the vid for sure tho, i just gotta get some batteries for my headphones i can't record the audio with it playing through my speakers. this week tho

because all you really need now is the inner workings of the program and more advanced little tweaking type aspects

along with more indepth chopping but thats not always needed, where as the tweaking and rough mixing helps alotttt

[Malachi]

nah, but i got the next 8 days off so its coming

the intro was cool a bit lengthy tho, the beat was dopeee tho. drums worked. wasnt the biggest fan of the hook section but it vibes. the main verse sections are dope

im happy that i dont have to critique your SOUNDS. its just the placement and with this one it worked so its all good

i got you on the vid for sure tho, i just gotta get some batteries for my headphones i can't record the audio with it playing through my speakers. this week tho

because all you really need now is the inner workings of the program and more advanced little tweaking type aspects

along with more indepth chopping but thats not always needed, where as the tweaking and rough mixing helps alotttt

wordd thanks man, wym u dont gotta critique my sounds tho?
ight mann uve gotten me like 4 times hope u can come thruu

[uh-oh]

i mean the drum sounds you use. most people pick sounds that dont vibe with samples/beats, or stuff that doesnt go together, like terrible stock drum sounds

i know i uploaded my drum kit but its not all gold alot are terrible by themselves without layering other drums with them lol

but your picking good snares, and good kicks.

basically nothing corny, alot of new dudes don't have the ear for picking drums. i havent had to touch your drum SOUNDS at all. its more just placement, which is good.

i recorded something earlier, for sampling the bass seperately i'll try and upload tonight

[Malachi]

word word

[uh-oh]

https://www.mediafire.com/?69dc35k2z835gb2

just realized i didnt show how to actually move sounds into the mixer

upped that anyways to show i did it tho lol

i got you on some more shit tho, i tried going with recent project files to show shit and failed. i'll have to just do a long vid start to finish and try and touch every aspect involved.

[Malachi]

https://www.mediafire.com/?69dc35k2z835gb2

just realized i didnt show how to actually move sounds into the mixer

upped that anyways to show i did it tho lol

i got you on some more shit tho, i tried going with recent project files to show shit and failed. i'll have to just do a long vid start to finish and try and touch every aspect involved.

word man this was great. i was thinking u put samples n drums in a seperate pattern to get them in the mixer? cause i uslaly have te sample in the pattern then add the drums to the same

but word this is helpfull ill be studying this n the first one till the next ones come

yo beats u was workin on was alsoo niceee

[Malachi]

uh-oh what's good ?

[uh-oh]

word man this was great. i was thinking u put samples n drums in a seperate pattern to get them in the mixer? cause i uslaly have te sample in the pattern then add the drums to the same

yea that didnt have to do with the mixer tho. i did that strictly for laziness/shortcut purposes

i do it how you do too, i did this one that way as well. the first file i load was just a quick thing i did recently, it was only that one pattern initially.

what i did tho, was deleted the sample from the MAIN pattern. the one with the drums. that made pattern 1, only drums. i then laid out the sample in pattern 2, for the main part, and in pattern 3 the sample changeup. so pattern 2 and 3 had no drums, just sample. pattern 1 was drums.

it has nothing to do with the mixer tho, thats just for arrangement of the final beat purposes.

that way i can use the same 4 bar loop of drums, over two different 4 bar sample patterns. the sample change is enough, sometimes.

in this case i had the sample play without drums for the intro, i forget without watching it again, but for example, pattern 2 followed by pattern 3. so 8 bar intro, and then i put pattern 2, and pattern 1 in, so they play together, and pattern 1 being drums. i used pattern 1 with the changeup pattern 3 again, then after sixteen bars can do just pattern 2 followed by pattern 3 with no drums again, for 8 bars, which is like a hook, and back into the drums

but word to get it in the mixer so you can control stuff is different. there are a couple ways, the easiest of which is probably the send to option or whatever.

when you click something to timestretch for example, that window or whatever that shows the sound file or chops sound waves with all the knobs

in the top right there is a little box, if you click it and hold the click down, you can then move the mouse up slowly while holding it and change the number

that number represents mixer channels. so every sample chop, you can set it to 01. for every kick drum, you can send it to 02. for every snare to 03. hihats to 04. bass to 05. percussive elements and cymbals or whatever to 06, so on and so forth

you can put them in any order you like

but the benefits of using the mixer is it makes stuff universal, like instead of adjusting the volume of each chop, it turns them all down, or up. when you do effects and stuff, like if you put an equaliser, or compression, or reverb or whatever, it wont just do it to one individual sound, it will put it on every sound you link to that channel.

its basically needed. you don't need to be an audio engineer. you make beats. mixing comes with time tho, its stupid easy to overdo anything. most of the time i'm turning knobs down, instead of turning knobs up. but an example of a genius with mixing is dr dre. his shit always hits perfect, no sounds compete. like a glimpse into serious mixing is like, take kicks and bass for example. a bassline is a prolonged type of deep sound, where a kick gets in and out its a quick stab of low frequency. they both occupy the lower frequencies. think about it like PIPES YO. plumbing or something.

lets say you have 3 pipes. one has high pitched sounds, one middle range, and one lows. these 3 pipes all meet and combine their contents at the end of their journey. mixing is controlling the levels of water or whatever going through so its even.

but this IS hip hop. lows dominate. so there will be slightly more lows, but the mids and highs never get DROWNED OUT they have to be clearly present too.

but not only are you mixing these 3 kinds of sounds/frequencies/fluids, but each individual pipe is a mixture

so the low end, with the bass and the kick, when your filling that pipe with fluid, you dont

wait, let me get away from the metaphor.

in frequencies you don't want your sounds COMPETING with eachother, you want them to compliment eachother. with kicks and bass, they both live in the low frequencies. they are low deep sounds. now if you got a deep kick, and a deep bass, they can try to take the same frequency and one of them will lose.

the bassline might muddy the kick drum up. so it doesnt PUNCH through and KNOCK like it should. the bass is drowning it, its there but it aint crisp, so you might have to turn some of the highs and mids up in the kick drum to get it to poke through

or vice versa

and that goes with EVERY SOUND. the snare lives in the mid range, its gonna compete with mid range sounds. the hihat live in the high frequencies, so on and so forth

mixing is the art of combining sounds, where everything is clear and coherent. you bass is HITTING. your kick is HITTING. the snare is SMACKING, nothing is too loud or too quiet, and its CLEAR.

the key to alot of it is just turning stuff DOWN.

you are going to want to turn stuff up. if your kick aint loud enough, turn everything else down till its at the level you want

at the END, you can turn the MASTER track up, and make the whole beat louder

the master controls every sound at once, every other track you send something to in the mixer can be customised to control individual sounds

but yea man its too much to type really i gotta go more indepth

i basically made a vid showing you how to do a single advanced thing in the mixer, instead of just showing you how to use the mixer in general

[Malachi]

Word at uh-oh that should be good for now, when u gon post it?
Ill be using it now tho

[Malachi]

workin on this triphop beat , also downloadin some steviee

u ever try doin a trapbeat uh-oh

[uh-oh]

yea im wack at it tho

i can lay dope drums down, but i suck at playing catchy melodies, and i don't have the proper vst's and keyboards to make that type of stuff even if i did

you can sort of make trap beats sampling, my dude poet is nice with it, but they aint really trap beats. its like what im teaching you, just with trap drums, he's got a good ear for samples that work with them

but yea drumwise its basically an 808 kit for every trap beat ever, just with the drums tweaked, and layered.

different types of claps. instead of the big gunshot sounding snares or boom bap its the quick slappy snares. instead of the realistic hihat drums, they are the loud computerised hihats moving fast driving the beat, with a simple booming 808 type kick keeping it knocking

but yea trap beats like using alot of "minor" snares i'll call them. i think in drumming they'd be referred to as "ghost notes", where you hit a softer snare alot inbetween the main 1-2

[uh-oh]

also everything is quantised, there is no swing

alot of what you hear is mpc note repeat

like im trying to think of a beat. im sure lil waynes shit, a milli, 6 ft. all of that uses note repeat, a feature on the mpc, you can draw sounds in like that in fl's piano roll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPki_kZrqEo

thats a bangladesh beat. he's a monster. no bassline, just an 808 kick (provides the bass, deep booming kicks), a soft 808 snare, and a snare/clap. no hats. no sounds even, just the a milli vocal sample looped. notice how plain the drums are tho, less is more.

that was a bad example of what i was looking for but its an example of the drums used

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKavIdN1jL0

this is extremely random i just typed in 2 chainz instrumental and this is what popped up.

listen to the hihats. hear how they speed up and stutter? thats an mpc's note repeat function. you literally just hold down a pad, and you can adjust how fast they trigger while you hold it while hitting another button.

in FL you have to draw them in so its more complicated but once you know how to place them its easy.

also notice the kicks, again those are 808 kicks. deep booming kicks, but in this beat they actually use different keys. the main 808 would be c5 basically. like in the piano roll of FL, it would be the middlemost key, but every now and then they trigger a key or two higher, so its like BA BA boom. the boom, is just the regular kick. the BA BA is the same kick, they're just hitting it so it plays at a higher note.

also listen to the snare, its an 808 snare, little weak and slappy. but they put a finger cymbal over it as well.

if you want, post a song/beat you have in mind when your thinking of a trap beat, and i will deconstruct it and show you how to do the drums at least, and what kind of sounds were involved

usually with beats you want to stay away from premade drumkits, but with trap/southern/banger type beats they are kind of what you want. doesnt work the same with a grimey kick and snare, you need the cleaner sounds that dont sound as good over an old grittty sample

[Malachi]

yea im wack at it tho

i can lay dope drums down, but i suck at playing catchy melodies, and i don't have the proper vst's and keyboards to make that type of stuff even if i did

you can sort of make trap beats sampling, my dude poet is nice with it, but they aint really trap beats. its like what im teaching you, just with trap drums, he's got a good ear for samples that work with them

but yea drumwise its basically an 808 kit for every trap beat ever, just with the drums tweaked, and layered.

different types of claps. instead of the big gunshot sounding snares or boom bap its the quick slappy snares. instead of the realistic hihat drums, they are the loud computerised hihats moving fast driving the beat, with a simple booming 808 type kick keeping it knocking

but yea trap beats like using alot of "minor" snares i'll call them. i think in drumming they'd be referred to as "ghost notes", where you hit a softer snare alot inbetween the main 1-2

how do you know like if wanna layer drumss like on top of each other

i been kinda put back by school but ima be back on this harder

[Malachi]

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/trippinsnip

da gawd been workin on this triphop fyah. the drums kinda been like the trap shit i got em from yo 808 drum kit

[Malachi]

uh-oh how u usually like when u got a nice ass sample but at the beggining niggas is talking .

[uh-oh]

it all depends really, if i can chop around it, or not.

using smaller chops sometimes you can rebuild whats behind talking by taking every open moment where they aint talking.

alot of times you can't tho.

the same with singing, there is no real way to just take vocals off of something and get the music behind it.

but lets say its a 1 bar chop you want. in the sample it keeps looping over but people are talking over it.

well in one instance the first beat is open, so you can take that, then in another segment the second beat is open so you take that, so on and so on until you find the 4 one beat chops to make that 1 bar loop.

you can also get smaller and take half beat chops

but i didnt show the half beat chops yet, or 1 beat chops. thats next on the agenda i've just been busy as shit

[Malachi]

it all depends really, if i can chop around it, or not.

using smaller chops sometimes you can rebuild whats behind talking by taking every open moment where they aint talking.

alot of times you can't tho.

the same with singing, there is no real way to just take vocals off of something and get the music behind it.

but lets say its a 1 bar chop you want. in the sample it keeps looping over but people are talking over it.

well in one instance the first beat is open, so you can take that, then in another segment the second beat is open so you take that, so on and so on until you find the 4 one beat chops to make that 1 bar loop.

you can also get smaller and take half beat chops

but i didnt show the half beat chops yet, or 1 beat chops. thats next on the agenda i've just been busy as shit

what? like when u say in another segments its open u mean in the song?

[Malachi]

uh-oh

just made this garbagee

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/pray

[Malachi]

upp uh-oh

[uh-oh]

my bad man i just got my internet back for my computer, been stuck using my phone

checking now. its pretty cool man, the sounds were a little weird but it all vibes. im impressed by how quick you got all this tho the structure and everything was solid. good shit man.

[Malachi]

bruh i got my computer restarted wit everything deleted.

anyone know where to get a good recent version of Fl?

[uh-oh]

do you torrent?

http://kickass.so/fl-studio-producer-edition-11-1-1-32-64-bit-reg-r2r-chingliu-t9562801.html

i don't know where to find a normal download link, but if you got utorrent that will work

[Malachi]

thanks bruh

[Malachi]

will be starting on this again soon

[El Muffin]

my nigga kd in my hood has mastered fl

very trap music style.

[Sharp]

yoooo I just signed up to do a demo of FL for my music education technology class. project is to demonstrate uses of the software in a pedagogical setting. I'm tryna use the way fl lays out subdivisions to teach duple rhythm (meaning shit divides by 2 - quarter notes, eighth notes, sixteenths - which is what fl does by default I think)

prolly just gonna demonstrate edison for sampling, and stick like 2 samples into a basic 4/4 beat. unless you experts got any ideas?

[uh-oh]

i have no idea what you even said bro

im illiterate/self taught.

i can teach you how to timestretch chops in dagodical settings tho

[Malachi]

i have no idea what you even said bro

im illiterate/self taught.

i can teach you how to timestretch chops in dagodical settings tho

yo uh-oh u know any legit sites to get good free drumkits?

i picked ur up in this thread again but i had more

i think u just get your kits from real instruments tho

[uh-oh]

yea i have no idea i havent looked for/got drumkits since like 08. i can upload this kit i got for free with my mpc if you want tho. its got some stuff in it

[Malachi]

yea i have no idea i havent looked for/got drumkits since like 08. i can upload this kit i got for free with my mpc if you want tho. its got some stuff in it

thatd be cool

is that your new mpx u had bought wit all that money u got

how is it?

[uh-oh]

DOPE

still can't make a finished product yet haha. like all i can figure out is how to make one sequence/pattern so far but i dig it. its cool to play with. feels kind of like a step backward from FL tho, as far as what all i can do with it. mainly in the mixing and just ease of controlling little stuff. but its fun chopping and playing around with it

[Malachi]

wordd

i want one too

not sure what or how id do anything but shit

i want it

[uh-oh]

https://www.mediafire.com/?ujng3sxv2kw538m

there you go

i was gonna say i can upload the mpc drumkits too if you want, but you can probably find those on google easy enough, and they are too big to do as one big file so fuck that lol

[uh-oh]

wordd

i want one too

not sure what or how id do anything but shit

i want it

word man, how old are you now? i was 17 when i started making beats, well trying to, and i wanted one forever. took me till i was 25

it isnt needed, you can do anything in FL anyone can do with one of these, but hearing that never made me not want one lol

[Malachi]

word man, how old are you now? i was 17 when i started making beats, well trying to, and i wanted one forever. took me till i was 25

it isnt needed, you can do anything in FL anyone can do with one of these, but hearing that never made me not want one lol

15, word the hands on type shit looks cool tho. u can actually tap the thing to put down the drums right instead of placing them wit a mouse right?

also i see fl studio aint even free, i thought thats why people used it lmao id think theyd just find a way to illegally download the best shit lol

[uh-oh]

yea nah FL aint free lol, think its like 300 for the full edition

FL is the best shit in my opinion, software wise its all preference tho. some people like REASON, some like ABLETON, so on and so forth.

FL is my shit tho

[Malachi]

uh-oh
started workin on sum

tips on like choppin drums or like sounds that are one beat? and how to know where to put emm?

what makes u decide to layer your drums?

[uh-oh]

i pretty much always layer my drums. mainly because its rare that i ever hear a single drumsound and feel its complete enough. i might like a kick, thats deep and boomy, but it might not have enough initial punch, so i'll put a punchy one with it, and have a beefier kick sound.

same with snares, i might like the back end of a snare, like the "air" reverberating after the initial smack, but i might not like the smack, or i might want it to smack harder, or vice versa, i might have one with a dope smack, but no tail end. so i'll put two or more together for the desired thickness and sound

for instance lets look at a classic premier beat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKjj4hk0pV4

the drums he took from this track (skip to 5:28)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c6LSLjMpGc

premier sampled one shots and the quick, snare-kick-snare, for the little change in his pattern. those drums are much busier than the ny state of mind drums, but they are the same sounds. the difference is preme layered a kick over the kick to give it more of a thump, the punch was already relevant in that sample. with the snare he gave it more of a mid to low smack, while preserving the high crack

now, he might not have layered drums over it, he very well could have just eq'ed and mixed them to beef them up. i've just read in interviews with him he likes to layer stock sounds (from mpc's and sp1200's etc, not stock computer sounds) with his sampled drums.

so im guessing he just put an mpc kick and snare in with them and mixed it a little for desired effect.

either way word. you just kind of layer to make it sweet.

now alot of drums you'll find in kits are already layered sounds, but they are layered how whoever made them wants them. you don't need to layer sounds. i just like to it makes it more custom and shit

[uh-oh]

also notice how low premier's hihats are in his mix compared to how loud they are in the sample

a big thing that alot of people mess up with is they got them loud ass hihats. its works in some beats. if you're doing a southern banger type beat they are cool turned up moving quick, but boom bap east coast shit, they're just there to keep the kicks boomin and the snares bappin. they just hold it together. they aren't there to be the main attraction.

now with that same beat, premier has a phrase you can timestretch basically, the , duh duduh duhduh duh or whatever, but then he has that one shot, piano roll thing. thats one sound basically he sampled. the quick three piano keys or whatever. the BRRRIING or whatever haha.

im not gonna lie, it was hard for me to do any type of stab/one shot type chops in FL. i know a ton of people who can, i just couldn't transfer it from my brain to the program. since getting the mpc, its stupid easy for me. literally every beat i begin to make now sounds like some knockoff wannabe premier stuff lol. and its not even the pads as much as how the machine can auto chop stuff. i think FL's slicer is similair. i just never messed with it and i don't have FL anymore

but yea man its all a science. just gotta play around with arrangements, i'd just recommend laying some drums first, if you wanna go the one shot/sample stab route. that way you can figure out where to put it by playing along with the drums

so its like the opposite of time stretching something long and playing along with the sample, you are getting the sample to play along with you.

[Malachi]

but yo thats so dope to me tho

like how do they know they wanna chop drums from on sample and then put it from another like how do you know yeaa thats shits gon fit or is it just like a matchin game.
ALways choppin out drum hits or whatever n then keepin em to use? like idk even shit like that piano bring u was talkin bout its creative

lol i have know idea how those beat machines work though u can chop on them too?

ill work on layering snares also i only got one of your beatkits

but yo uh-oh one thing bout soul shit maybe not even soul samples idkk man when i do get one bar chops n shit it be feelin mad basic nahmeann. i feel like the best beat usually got shorter stuff than that...

okay i was bout say something like xplose by dr dre but maybe not maybe its the songs im samplin. maybe i should speed it up cause the tempo be mad low? lol this prolly not makin sense but like sometimes on a chop the beginning of the chop this big noise to like an arrival noise but when u got the repeat the sample twice it just sound ugly cause that arrival noise is repeated in the middle not the begginning yknow or maybe its just me

alsoo

does 808 drums can go wit other drums

[uh-oh]

as far as chopping for drums, you basically just hear a break, and chop the sounds individually, don't worry about measures/time with them. like take the initial impact as the start of the chop and end it before the next drum, so you have all the air and tail end from it.

but yea its not really about knowing to do it, as much as just wanting to. you never have to chop a drum break there are enough drumsounds out there, but in them old songs, specifically between like 67 and 73 the way music was recorded, the mixing boards, the mics, and all that just captured it different. they smack right. for boom bap purposes.

you could absolutely layer them with any drum, 808's you can layer with anything. there are no real rules as far as layering, you're just trying to create the desired drum sound. like if you got a deep booming 808 like the kicks in this beat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vYnas6q3Sg


beat drops at 32-33 seconds. the kick drum is a huge 808 layered with a normal punchy kick.

then at :49 seconds the 808 keeps playing. still booming, but the punchy kick was taken off.

then at 1:04/1:05 the punchy kick comes back in, like the beat drops more official.

so basically you can use layering also as a way to change it up a little while keeping everything else the same. the listener pulls back like aight, its still banging, and then BOOM BOOM its back and your back up and next thing you know you're busta rhymesing head first off a stage hype as shit

[Izzy Reef]

Niggas said Audacity

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[Malachi]

uh-oh did u say u can take off the instruments from the vocals and vice versa if they together on a chop?
ima look that up
id think that thing to get the bassline would help to a certain extentt

theres this part at the end also its fading out but ima try n put the volume up on it to see if that works loll

and if like i wanted a certain part of my chop to be louder or bigger what do i use for that

[uh-oh]

heres a ton of drums if you wanted to find more

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/25-gb-drum-collection.268138/

my problem with having so many drums tho, is it can take away from ACTUALLY making something, because your auditioning a million sounds to find the "right" kick or snare etc.

but word

as far as taking instruments off of, or vocals off of chops, you can't do it. you can chop around stuff.

like for example if someone is singing over a part of something you want to chop, all you can really do is chop around the vocals, and search the song for parts where the music in the back, is the same, but they aren't singing. most of the time you wont, because they will sing over the same parts but it works sometimes.

you can take away some elements by filtering, but at the detriment of sound quality. and its not like you can hone in on anything really. you can filter out the high fidelity sounds or whatever you call it. like hihats/tamborines/cymbals. you can filter it so all you hear is the mids and lows. or you can filter out the highs and mids, so all you hear is the lows/bass.

i only ever really do it to isolate basslines, so if you want to do drops or something, you can drop out the mids and highs and just leave your drums and the bass knocking

and it also lets you control the bass sound itself, so you can turn it up, without eq'ing which sucks usually.

like make your whole beat, from start to finish, then mute everything but the sample chops, and then filter it so its only the LOWS, so its just the bass, and save it as an mp3 or wav, and then unmute everything, take the filters off so its back to normal

and then drag and drop the bass mp3/wav into the song, and you can basically control the bass outside of the main sample

if that makes sense

[uh-oh]

also when something is fading out you can raise the volume as well

i'm not sure if FL has a plugin, i'm sure you can do it through automation

i know in sound forge, you can do "fades" and actually assign how it does it. like you can control the volume by drawing a line. i'm sure you can do it in FL as well. in the playlist using automation

basically you want to start where its loud, with it being low, and gradually raising the "line" up as the sample gets quieter. its kind of impossible to explain in text tho

go to youtube and search automation in fl and im sure someone covers it, or you will at least see how automation works and know how to do it from there

whenever you are bored just watch youtube tutorials on everything, even if its something you don't know what it is or whatever because it could shine light on something you didnt think of.

[Malachi]

think ima start tryna make my own collection of sounds