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Immaculate
03-08-2013, 07:54 PM
So I've been watching Raw lately and to my surprise, the latest Raw ep had some of the oldschool wrestlers return (either for the HOF induction or as a guest).

Some of them were:

Honkey Tonk Man
Ted Debease - Million Dollar Man
Rick Flair
Sgt. Slaughter
Hacksaw Jim Dugan
Dusty Rhodes

And a few others that I may have missed out, but lets not forget, the man himself, The Undertaker, whom I might add, is at a record of 28-0 wins at past Wrestlemanias.

I know some of you are like, "yo, wrestlings fake", but I am a loyal wrestling fan, so my reply to that would be....*in Rocks voice*


"IT DOESN'T MATTER!!".

It would be nice to know if any of you guys use to watch Superstars?


Where my fans at. Holler.

Witty
03-08-2013, 07:56 PM
Yeah, it was great...Undertaker came back and did....absolutely fucking nothing.

Scott Akers
03-08-2013, 07:56 PM
they where there because of the old school raw.

taker is 20-0 btw.

Badweather
03-08-2013, 08:06 PM
Jack Swagger is a lispy douche. Him and his handler Jeb are talking some ingorant shit right now.

bleak
03-08-2013, 08:19 PM
The characters in wrestling now are fucking stupid compared to the greats of the past. Let's look at John Cena. Wtf is his deal? He was a rapper, now he's what? Don't worry, I'll wait. Uh, how about CM Punk? The 'Straight Edge Superstar.' GAY STFU WITH THAT BULLSHIT.

I WANT BALD HEADS, BEERS CRUSHED, KENDO STICKS SWINGING, TABLES GOTTEN, AND FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE FAGGOTS TO GET STUNNERED STRAIGHT TO THE FUCKING D LEAGUE OF WRESTLING.

What happened to the Steve Austins, Rocks, MANKINDS, Tommy Dreamers, Tazs, or Sandmans? I'LL SETTLE FOR A KURT ANGLE RIGHT BOUT NOW. There's not even blood on this new PG wrestling. WHEN I WATCHED WRESTLING, THERE WERE FIRST BLOOD MATCHES. Now every match is a first blood, cause these pussies can't handle a cut. Dudes used to jump from 25 foot ladders, onto 2 people on separate tables, GET UP AND FINISH THE MATCH.

Tf happened to that shit?

Witty
03-08-2013, 08:27 PM
Jack Swagger is a lispy douche. Him and his handler Jeb are talking some ingorant shit right now.

Lol WWE are just trying to make an impact, shock tactics I believe they are called.

I call it desperation.

Badweather
03-08-2013, 08:28 PM
Cm punk is the best villain I've ever seen though. Like, not even trying to be funny.

Witty
03-08-2013, 08:28 PM
The characters in wrestling now are fucking stupid compared to the greats of the past. Let's look at John Cena. Wtf is his deal? He was a rapper, now he's what? Don't worry, I'll wait. Uh, how about CM Punk? The 'Straight Edge Superstar.' GAY STFU WITH THAT BULLSHIT.

I WANT BALD HEADS, BEERS CRUSHED, KENDO STICKS SWINGING, TABLES GOTTEN, AND FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE FAGGOTS TO GET STUNNERED STRAIGHT TO THE FUCKING D LEAGUE OF WRESTLING.

What happened to the Steve Austins, Rocks, MANKINDS, Tommy Dreamers, Tazs, or Sandmans? I'LL SETTLE FOR A KURT ANGLE RIGHT BOUT NOW. There's not even blood on this new PG wrestling. WHEN I WATCHED WRESTLING, THERE WERE FIRST BLOOD MATCHES. Now every match is a first blood, cause these pussies can't handle a cut. Dudes used to jump from 25 foot ladders, onto 2 people on separate tables, GET UP AND FINISH THE MATCH.

Tf happened to that shit?

I saw someone get slammed on a table, and the table didn't break...I was like...what the fuck is this shit?

Immaculate
03-08-2013, 08:29 PM
Lol @ Kurt Angle.

I think wrestlers these days are more commercial then of back then.

And I agree with you bleak.

Witty
03-08-2013, 08:30 PM
Cm punk is the best villain I've ever seen though. Like, not even trying to be funny.

Yeah I can agree with that, if not THE (cuz that's Vince Mcmahon imo) but definitely one of the all time greatest heels.

He thrives off being hated lol

Immaculate
03-08-2013, 08:30 PM
I love CM Punk and his whole straight edge attitude. He, is, in a way, a "son" version of Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Dope girl
03-08-2013, 08:33 PM
I love that show, so fabulous.

Dope girl
03-08-2013, 08:34 PM
I can't imagine me wresting people I'd probably break my bone. just say.

bleak
03-08-2013, 08:45 PM
I love CM Punk and his whole straight edge attitude. He, is, in a way, a "son" version of Stone Cold Steve Austin.

WOW

CM Punk, best heel ever, really?

How bout Hogan in nWo.

Or more recent, Edge as the R Rated Superstar?

Which, CM Punk is an Edge knockoff, he was brought in to replace him.

fuckin hell you guys just got under my skin.

THE KING JERRY LAWLER, PAUL HEYMAN, ERIC BISCHOFF, FUCKING BROCK LESNAR WAS A BETTER BAD GUY.

Scott Akers
03-08-2013, 08:54 PM
cm punk > edge

edge was a horrible heel imo.

cm punk is the best shit talker in the business, and hogan didn't have that much power on the mic people just hated him over the whole nwo bit. if you get this far in this business with words alone your doing something right.

Witty
03-08-2013, 09:00 PM
WOW

CM Punk, best heel ever, really?

How bout Hogan in nWo.

Or more recent, Edge as the R Rated Superstar?

Which, CM Punk is an Edge knockoff, he was brought in to replace him.

fuckin hell you guys just got under my skin.

THE KING JERRY LAWLER, PAUL HEYMAN, ERIC BISCHOFF, FUCKING BROCK LESNAR WAS A BETTER BAD GUY.

I'd say CM Punk is easily as good as any of those...both on the microphone and in the ring. the fact Undertaker wanted him to challenge for the streak at WM speaks volumes about how much he is respected in the locker room and by the oldest and most experienced wrestlers...he is carrying WWE on his back.

King Ra.
03-08-2013, 09:14 PM
Goldberg was my nigga. I first watched WCW back in the days when Sting, NWO, Harlem Heat, Lex Luger, DDP.... damn, all them niggas were doing the thing. Classic shit. Caught up with WWF in it's golden age. Kane vs Undertaker, Austins dominance, The Rock when he was with The Nation of Domination, DX... those were the days. Fuck that shit now.

Witty
03-08-2013, 10:01 PM
A few months ago I was telling my little brother about how the attitude era was so much better, and being the wise little faggot he is, he said something along the lines of 'yeah but sometimes people can glamorize the past, maybe you're just remembering something a lot better than what actually happened'....so after the customary punch to the ribs for back sass I admitted he was right about the past being overly glamorized a lot of the time, so I said fuck it and decided to watch as many old raw episodes as possible with him, when I had the time...anyway, long story short...it really was THAT much better and he agreed, and if you still watch WWE don't go back and watch attitude era episodes cuz you will just be left thinking....what the fuck happened?

El Muffin
03-08-2013, 10:03 PM
my fav dude was diamond dallas page

Scott Akers
03-08-2013, 10:08 PM
A few months ago I was telling my little brother about how the attitude era was so much better, and being the wise little faggot he is, he said something along the lines of 'yeah but sometimes people can glamorize the past, maybe you're just remembering something a lot better than what actually happened'....so after the customary punch to the ribs for back sass I admitted he was right about the past being overly glamorized a lot of the time, so I said fuck it and decided to watch as many old raw episodes as possible with him, when I had the time...anyway, long story short...it really was THAT much better and he agreed, and if you still watch WWE don't go back and watch attitude era episodes cuz you will just be left thinking....what the fuck happened?

see it had to change, back in the day only certain wrestlers could make it, nowadays there is a wide range of wrestlers than can succeed, and they can make more money now to. there wasn't to many people that could hang with the rock or stone cold, so it had to evolve. the same people that complain about the attitude era being gone, are the same ones that complain when a storyline lasts to long, it was great the attitude era ended with stone cold and the rock tbh. wrestlers are pose to be replaceable for a promotion, but back in those days, the good attitude era wrestlers where irreplaceable, there isn't a wrestler that can't be replaced now, and that's good for business.

Immaculate
03-08-2013, 10:29 PM
WOW

CM Punk, best heel ever, really?

How bout Hogan in nWo.

Or more recent, Edge as the R Rated Superstar?

Which, CM Punk is an Edge knockoff, he was brought in to replace him.

fuckin hell you guys just got under my skin.

THE KING JERRY LAWLER, PAUL HEYMAN, ERIC BISCHOFF, FUCKING BROCK LESNAR WAS A BETTER BAD GUY.

I never said anything about CM Punk being "the best", no I said I love his whole attitude persona he's got going.

The best of the best, are the Legends, which probably 80% of the wrestlers now days aren't, and I'm talking about wrestlers like Brett Hart, Undertaker, Stone Cold, Shawn Michaels, Hulk Hogan, etc.

The Edge, however, was another great and lovable wrestler, as much as he tried to "Act bad", he was still a sweetheart (in my eyes). That Lita romance was funny as fuck though lmao.

Immaculate
03-08-2013, 10:34 PM
Goldberg was my nigga. I first watched WCW back in the days when Sting, NWO, Harlem Heat, Lex Luger, DDP.... damn, all them niggas were doing the thing. Classic shit. Caught up with WWF in it's golden age. Kane vs Undertaker, Austins dominance, The Rock when he was with The Nation of Domination, DX... those were the days. Fuck that shit now.

OH EM GEE! you read my mind, lol @ Nation of Domination haha, they had everyone doing the whole "black power" movement during their song, I must admit, it was catchy, FAROOQ and his crew.

Few of my oldschool tag team champs were:

The Rockers (Shawn Michaels and Marty Jennedy)
Legion of Doom
The Hardy Boys (they imo brought in the extreme high flying manouvres for a tag team)
Hulk Hogan and Macho Man - while it lasted lol

Dope girl
03-08-2013, 10:34 PM
I'd Remembered Paul I felt sad when hear Paul died.

bleak
03-08-2013, 10:40 PM
Few of my oldschool tag team champs were:

The Hardy Boys

You have redeemed yourself.

Immaculate
03-08-2013, 10:41 PM
see it had to change, back in the day only certain wrestlers could make it, nowadays there is a wide range of wrestlers than can succeed, and they can make more money now to. there wasn't to many people that could hang with the rock or stone cold, so it had to evolve. the same people that complain about the attitude era being gone, are the same ones that complain when a storyline lasts to long, it was great the attitude era ended with stone cold and the rock tbh. wrestlers are pose to be replaceable for a promotion, but back in those days, the good attitude era wrestlers where irreplaceable, there isn't a wrestler that can't be replaced now, and that's good for business.

Have you watched Brett Hart's documentary?

And speaking of The Rock and Stone Cold, I remember the match that they had, and The Rock won, and I remember this interview they had with Stone Cold Steve Austin, he said that right after The Rock had pinned him down, The Rock whispered in his ear "it was a honour fighting you man, I love you" (they even showed that part where he said it).......and that's when Stone Cold's respect for The Rock grew much more then just a "wrestling friend", that's when he (Steve) knew that The Rock was real genuine.

I don't know if this is even relevant to your quoted post lmao.

bleak
03-08-2013, 10:42 PM
sounds like gay love tbh

Immaculate
03-08-2013, 10:45 PM
Not really, sometimes men can say that shit without having to be homo.

Take notes.

bleak
03-09-2013, 12:52 AM
Take notes? I don't think that is relevant to what you told me.

Considering that I have traversed the internet, and know what is gay and what isn't.

Dwayne Johnson is homo.

Immaculate
03-09-2013, 01:26 AM
Now your just being a douche.

King Ra.
03-09-2013, 02:35 AM
Word.

~RustyGunZ~
03-09-2013, 02:49 AM
It was my understanding that only poor people watch the wwe

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 03:37 AM
Have you watched Brett Hart's documentary?

And speaking of The Rock and Stone Cold, I remember the match that they had, and The Rock won, and I remember this interview they had with Stone Cold Steve Austin, he said that right after The Rock had pinned him down, The Rock whispered in his ear "it was a honour fighting you man, I love you" (they even showed that part where he said it).......and that's when Stone Cold's respect for The Rock grew much more then just a "wrestling friend", that's when he (Steve) knew that The Rock was real genuine.

I don't know if this is even relevant to your quoted post lmao.

i have it downloaded haven't got around to watching it yet.

Immaculate
03-09-2013, 07:18 AM
Diasik, you just might change your mind of how you see McMahon when you watch that doco.

Anonymous
03-09-2013, 11:59 AM
Y'all are acting like this is boxing or some real sport.
It's an entertainment show, not a competitive sport.

That said
Jeff Hardy > everyone

Zen
03-09-2013, 12:07 PM
Honestly haven't watched wrestling in a very long time. Just doesn't feel the same to me anymore. But I do remember waiting all week when I was in school for Raw and Smackdown and even the shitty Heat show that came on Sunday. Ah...I just got nostalgic for a second.

bleak
03-09-2013, 12:54 PM
That said
Jeff Hardy > everyone

fuckin cosign

Who was that guy he used to be tag team partners wit? Dude's irrelevant.

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 02:15 PM
Y'all are acting like this is boxing or some real sport.
It's an entertainment show, not a competitive sport.

That said
Jeff Hardy > everyone
who said it was a real sport? that's not the reason I watch.

meth hardy is a faggot.

Immaculate
03-09-2013, 02:23 PM
Y'all are acting like this is boxing or some real sport.
It's an entertainment show, not a competitive sport.

That said
Jeff Hardy > everyone

This is a competitive sport to them dude, its their profession, that being said, you should try watching their personal doco's just to get a little jist of what wrestling means to them. At first I was small minded and thought, "oh yeah a bunch of guys just jumping into a ring pounding the fuck outta eachother for entertainment", but as soon as I got hooked, I learned that its waaay much more to them, alot of time, commitment and passion goes into this, alot of training & pereseverance goes in too, so in saying that this isn't a competitive sport? It really is. They are pretty much fighting for their careers aswell as their lives.

Immaculate
03-09-2013, 02:25 PM
fuckin cosign

Who was that guy he used to be tag team partners wit? Dude's irrelevant.

Matt Hardy.

When The Hardy Boys were happening, it was FTW.

Split
03-09-2013, 02:44 PM
Have you watched Brett Hart's documentary?

And speaking of The Rock and Stone Cold, I remember the match that they had, and The Rock won, and I remember this interview they had with Stone Cold Steve Austin, he said that right after The Rock had pinned him down, The Rock whispered in his ear "it was a honour fighting you man, I love you" (they even showed that part where he said it).......and that's when Stone Cold's respect for The Rock grew much more then just a "wrestling friend", that's when he (Steve) knew that The Rock was real genuine.

I don't know if this is even relevant to your quoted post lmao.

http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-04-02/1238680593763.jpg

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 02:46 PM
people who say it's not a sport are the same ones that couldn't handle it tbh.


I was actually going to train back when john cena started training in ovw. so I would have been on the main wwe roster by now if I did it.

I was neighbors with Eugene who helped train everyone back then.

Skunk
03-09-2013, 02:53 PM
it's not a sport, it's a show/ongoing acting and stunts

anyway, watchable wresting left when Austin left

Split
03-09-2013, 02:57 PM
NAMES DROPPED

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 03:04 PM
none of you all could last 5 minutes in the ring. rofl.

Skunk
03-09-2013, 03:15 PM
lol, even if that were true to some ppl, what does that have to do with it?

WWE is a show/soap opera/series/whatever u wanna call it

yes it requires skill, but it's still not a sport

olympic wrestling/college wrestling/REAL wrestling is a sport

dummies

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 05:14 PM
thanks for telling me that wrestling is fake Skunk

did not know that.

Witty
03-09-2013, 05:21 PM
lol, even if that were true to some ppl, what does that have to do with it?

WWE is a show/soap opera/series/whatever u wanna call it

yes it requires skill, but it's still not a sport

olympic wrestling/college wrestling/REAL wrestling is a sport

dummies

Oh for realz...I didn't know that in 2013, nobody knows that...YOU SHOULD MAKE THIS KNOWN!!!!!

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 05:31 PM
Oh for realz...I didn't know that in 2013, nobody knows that...YOU SHOULD MAKE THIS KNOWN!!!!!
thats what im saying, i been watching wrestling for 28 years and just now finding out its fake

holy shit.

Witty
03-09-2013, 05:33 PM
thats what im saying, i been watching wrestling for 28 years and just now finding out its fake

holy shit.

He's been sent from heaven, he is a prophet.

Damn these trickster wrestlers *shakes fist*

Hollywood
03-09-2013, 05:35 PM
LOL @ wrastlin

been whack for years now

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 05:41 PM
hey guys UFC is real.

Skunk
03-09-2013, 06:19 PM
my point was it's not a sport, lol

keep going tho

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 06:39 PM
so its not a sport, neither is csi but people watch it.

Witty
03-09-2013, 06:45 PM
I get confused when people say it is wack and has been for years....does that mean you watch it even though you don't like it? Or are you just saying it is wack because you didn't enjoy it the last time you did, so you stopped and don't know what it is like now? Cuz both of those statements are sort of retarded.

The Shield are fucking awesome, when it comes to what they do in the ring there is literally no other group that is better. I hope they will add some more credibility, Dean Ambrose is an attitude era-esque guy...entertaining and original, they all are but he stands out the most. Randy Orton turns that shit into an art form, Punk is great all round, Sheamus brings something different and is just a beast in the ring. Cena, whether you like his character or not will go down as one of the all time greats, and deservedly so. Things are actually getting a lot better with WWE, they still have some way to go but this year looks like a promising start.

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 06:47 PM
I get confused when people say it is wack and has been for years....does that mean you watch it even though you don't like it? Or are you just saying it is wack because you didn't enjoy it the last time you did, so you stopped and don't know what it is like now? Cuz both of those statements are sort of retarded.

The Shield are fucking awesome, when it comes to what they do in the ring there is literally no other group that is better. I hope they will add some more credibility, Dean Ambrose is an attitude era-esque guy...entertaining and original, they all are but he stands out the most. Randy Orton turns that shit into an art form, Punk is great all round, Sheamus brings something different and is just a beast in the ring. Cena, whether you like his character or not will go down as one of the all time greats, and deservedly so. Things are actually getting a lot better with WWE, they still have some way to go but this year looks like a promising start.

dude ambrose from the shield is one of the best promo guys in the business you should see his shit from the indies. I put him up there with cm punk.

Skunk
03-09-2013, 06:49 PM
so its not a sport, neither is csi but people watch it.
it's like 90% kids n bitches who watch it now, the other 10% being fat no-lifers

and Witty, I just know the attitude era was a million times better than that crap they air now

Witty
03-09-2013, 06:50 PM
dude ambrose from the shield is one of the best promo guys in the business you should see his shit from the indies. I put him up there with cm punk.

Yeah I heard from a few people that he really made a name for himself on the indie scene cutting promos, and from what he has shown so far he's exceeding any expectation I already had for him, I'd say he could be better than Punk, and Punk is maybe the greatest promo guy ever, but time will tell.

It seems like WWE are picking their up and coming talent a lot more carefully than they have in recent years, which is good.

Witty
03-09-2013, 06:52 PM
it's like 90% kids n bitches who watch it now, the other 10% being fat no-lifers

and Witty, I just know the attitude era was a million times better than that crap they air now

How do you know if you don't watch it? Are you the guy who takes other peoples opinions on things as fact, even if you know nothing about it?

Don't be that guy.

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 06:53 PM
Yeah I heard from a few people that he really made a name for himself on the indie scene cutting promos, and from what he has shown so far he's exceeding any expectation I already had for him, I'd say he could be better than Punk, and Punk is maybe the greatest promo guy ever, but time will tell.

It seems like WWE are picking their up and coming talent a lot more carefully than they have in recent years, which is good.

thank hhh for that all vince cared about was the body builder type

Skunk
03-09-2013, 07:04 PM
How do you know if you don't watch it? Are you the guy who takes other peoples opinions on things as fact, even if you know nothing about it?

Don't be that guy.
lmao are u really that simple minded/defensive about this?

how do I know u ask? because I TRIED to stay watching wrestling, n I watched it go to shit. I used be a huge fan, and every now n then I try to watch it again

no dice, it's horrible now

Witty
03-09-2013, 07:06 PM
lmao are u really that simple minded/defensive about this?

how do I know u ask? because I TRIED to stay watching wrestling, n I watched it go to shit. I used be a huge fan, and every now n then I try to watch it again

no dice, it's horrible now

That's all you had to say, I don't know why it took you so long.

I have a very complex mind, I would invite you inside but your shoes look dirty.

Immaculate
03-09-2013, 07:07 PM
none of you all could last 5 minutes in the ring. rofl.

^^

Witty
03-09-2013, 07:08 PM
I definitely could.

You didn't say anything about being against a wrestler.

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 07:09 PM
That's all you had to say, I don't know why it took you so long.

I have a very complex mind, I would invite you inside but your shoes look dirty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4FkP822POU

fast forward to 2:00 rofl

Immaculate
03-09-2013, 07:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4FkP822POU

fast forward to 2:00 rofl

LMAOOO

Scott Akers
03-09-2013, 07:28 PM
"I shot her dog, and all the sudden, I'm the bad guy... rofl"

Immaculate
03-09-2013, 07:42 PM
Hahaa dude was hardout talking it up in the beggining...*fast forward up to 2:00mins* he's a whole different person lolol.

I shouldn't really be laughing, this shit happens for real lol. So is wrestling fake now? LMAO.

Immaculate
03-09-2013, 07:45 PM
it's like 90% kids n bitches who watch it now, the other 10% being fat no-lifers

and Witty, I just know the attitude era was a million times better than that crap they air now

Do you not look in the crowd while watching wrestling? You got 30-40 year old men wearing "you cant see me tshirts" and some celebrities popping in now and then, including Military and Naval forces, and not to mention a couple of recognised sports athletes.