eminem did not blow up cuz he's white. he blew up because white people love him...

[super pimp trillionaire]

...because he's white.
Don't lie, dude kinda boody...

[Ghost1]

He had something new.

And we were hype to finally have one of our own.

But there wasnt anybody mainstream sayin what he was sayin, it was fresh.

[Witty]

He blew up because he was dope as fuck.

[Defiant]

why isit so cool to hate on eminem nowadays?

[Witty]

why isit so cool to hate on eminem nowadays?

Cuz he a cracka ass cracka

[trap.]

The best thing he ever did early in his career was not fuck with Cage.

[Ghost1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxMb_R77hgI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Wise Wiggles]

Quit being a piece of shit Naq.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Sick of eight mile. It's not as dope as ppl say.it's a rap movie with a white star. Out of like what five studio albums maybe two were good one was worth my money. Slim shady>marshall mathrrs>all his other shit.
Em isnt as good as buddens, and he damn sure ain't the best white rapper. Ask serch.
He is the longest running novelty act in hip hop.
Fuck ya hero.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Eight mile inadvertently destroyed rap on the internet

[Masaii]

NAQ grow up



































Literally. Youre short as fuck.

[Witty]

Sick of eight mile. It's not as dope as ppl say.it's a rap movie with a white star. Out of like what five studio albums maybe two were good one was worth my money. Slim shady>marshall mathrrs>all his other shit.
Em isnt as good as buddens, and he damn sure ain't the best white rapper. Ask serch.
He is the longest running novelty act in hip hop.
Fuck ya hero.

I'm sure he will read this and dry his tears with all that money he has from his 'novelty act'

[Ghost1]

Mc serch? Lol stop that.

I wouod prolly agree w trap tho an say i am/was always a bigger fan of cage. Sslp was a classic tho......how many rappers can boast even one classic in their catalogue ......not many.

[super pimp trillionaire]

If you buy every kool g rap and every em alb and shuffle them shits, G. rap will outshine em all day.
Do not disrespect serch. He is hiphop.

[bleak]

So you're saying if the main character in 8 mile had been a black guy, it wouldn't have gotten the same exposure? You're probably right. However, Em's career isn't a fucking movie, Naq. He's said things in songs that dudes today still wish they could write. You can't deny that he is a top 5 or 10 best rapper in the history of the game.

[Hush]

First 2 albums were fire, guess your too short sighted to realize that.

[trap.]

So you're saying if the main character in 8 mile had been a black guy, it wouldn't have gotten the same exposure? You're probably right. However, Em's career isn't a fucking movie, Naq. He's said things in songs that dudes today still wish they could write. You can't deny that he is a top 5 or 10 best rapper in the history of the game.

Eminem isn't even in the top ten.

[Witty]

Eminem isn't even in the top ten.

You say this as if it is fact lol

Go away please.

Also, this is inaccurate because the majority of people hating and protesting against Eminem were white people.

[trap.]

It IS fact. The only people that think Eminem is in the top ten of all time are kids 16-22 or so years old. All the folk who have listened to hiphop / rap music for the past 20+ years would say otherwise.

[TYSON]

Lol @ budden being better then Em. I agreed with u on him being as popular as he is because he is a good WHITE rapper but that shit was too far.

[veritas]

Hush is my new girlfriend

[Witty]

It IS fact. The only people that think Eminem is in the top ten of all time are kids 16-22 or so years old. All the folk who have listened to hiphop / rap music for the past 20+ years would say otherwise.

What does that prove other than the fact two generations disagree, which is the same in every genre of music because you like what you grew up with, how does being older make them right? That's a pretty flawed argument seeing as how most people decide on which kind of music they are really fans of during those years, so if there is a huge and talented rapper like Eminem that is who they will go to first if they are fans of hip hop. Just as how Pac used to have that sort of status, he was the face of the genre, like it or not, Em was out spitting everybody, the stories he was telling and the unheard of and socially unacceptable lyrics he was writing, mixed with honesty and admittedly a pretty interesting personality at least to the extent that was shown, all of these things are what made him stand out, I honestly don't think he gets nearly enough credit for what he did for Hip Hop...this more than makes him one of the all time greats.

[Seyance]

It IS fact. The only people that think Eminem is in the top ten of all time are kids 16-22 or so years old. All the folk who have listened to hiphop / rap music for the past 20+ years would say otherwise.

rofl, what a bullshit statement.. you have no idea of the opinions, so you cannot say IT IS FACT. simply because it's not.

[veritas]

All opinions all subjective
Prop 17

[super pimp trillionaire]

Everybody has the right to an opinion, but some choose to be wrong.
Singer s of my generation include whitney and mariah, does that mean I should think they are better than Aretha or Gladys just cause when iwas young they outsold their predecessors?
Eminem did not invent socially unacceptable rap. He spoke up for authentic hiphop but just happened to be white.
Everything else is what we did to him and how he reacted.
But why is it so hard to admit that eight mile made him like bel air made fresh prince?

[Scott Akers]

he blew up cus of dr dre, just like 50 blew up cus of em.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Good point what about missy. She was huge. And popular.
But as talented as tim is he couldnt help bubba.
Dre called em cuz he was dope. I dont like the symbol hes become. The two are unrelated. Dont try to cut down my points with irrelevant facts. Stay on theme.

[Fig]

I think its unfair to say that eminem was the only person rapping about that type of shit, but the same can be said of those that deny the fact that eminem did it with a unique and eccentric type of personality that actually made the abrasive popular in the mainstream. Who the fuck was rapping like em? It couldve been another rapper out there saying some crazy shit, but it wouldnt have passed for very long because they wouldnt have had anywhere near the style of em.

I determine GOAT's by style yes, but right alongside that, influence, and Eminem is that if nothing else. Influential. Go back in time and take away the SSLP and MMLP and see if the game is the same. Thats what makes those albums classics to me. Eminem is top 5 rappers of all time to me.

[Scott Akers]

Eight mile inadvertently destroyed rap on the internet

8 mile made rap on the internet lol.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Exactly.

[bleak]

It IS fact.

According to... what?

http://www.superteacherworksheets.com/causeeffectfactopinion/factopinion1_WBNNQ.pdf

This is due by the end of class.

[Anonymous]

Infinite, SSLP, MMLP are all classic.
Lyrically, eminem is more talented than any if the people this site loves.
More talented than 99% of the old school 80's & 90's rappers.
The only rapper I can think of from the 90's that is genuinely better than Em, is Big L

[super pimp trillionaire]

Infinite, SSLP, MMLP are all classic.
Lyrically, eminem is more talented than any if the people this site loves.
More talented than 99% of the old school 80's & 90's rappers.
The only rapper I can think of from the 90's that is genuinely better than Em, is Big L
Wow.

[Anonymous]

In terms of flow, schemes, wordplay, even the general themes in his songs. Not many are as good

[bleak]

I think you took it a bit far saying that L is the only rapper from the 90's who is better than Em. 7-9 of the top 10 rappers of all time were big in the 90's, depending on preference.

[Anonymous]

Well that's the thing, in the end it's all about preference.
My top 10 would probably only have 1-2 people from the 90's & probably only 4-5 US rappers

[bleak]

Let me guess, Macklemore is top 3?

[super pimp trillionaire]

This kind of explosive exaggeration is what I hate about ems fans...
not that all do it...cause if fight music or lose yourself or role model came on I'm jammin...
But I mean... you're including ghost, meth, big, doom, wayne, kane, slick rick, Jay, nas, Will, hammer, X, I mean did you think before you posted or did your love for eminem make you forget to think?

[Anonymous]

Let me guess, Macklemore is top 3?

Nah, I've been playing him heaps recently, but he wouldn't be worthy of top 10 of all time.

[Anonymous]

This kind of explosive exaggeration is what I hate about ems fans...
not that all do it...cause if fight music or lose yourself or role model came on I'm jammin...
But I mean... you're including ghost, meth, big, doom, wayne, kane, slick rick, Jay, nas, Will, hammer, X, I mean did you think before you posted or did your love for eminem make you forget to think?

I'm not even a huge eminem fan. I rarely listen to him. But honestly, he is better than most the people you listed. Jay z, Nas, Method Man & MF Doom are the only people you mentioned who could be better

[bleak]

This kind of explosive exaggeration is what I hate about ems fans...
not that all do it...cause if fight music or lose yourself or role model came on I'm jammin...
But I mean... you're including ghost, meth, big, doom, wayne, kane, slick rick, Jay, nas, Will, hammer

/thread

[Inno]

pun.

he he did get famous cuz he was a spic...the only platinum spic

[super pimp trillionaire]

My mp3 collection keeps me happy. If you can say the same then who gives a fuck.
Just surprised to see so many bad opinions.
Peace

[Anonymous]

With all that being said, it's not like eminem in the best white rapper, he probably wouldn't make my top 10 white rappers.

[Inno]

^^RA the rugged man

[super pimp trillionaire]

It must be an age thing.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Ra was nasty. the best emcees are still dope even tho they ain't radio friendly anymore... ppl forget that.

[Inno]

laugh if you want...everlast was dope

but yo...

top 5 no order

redman
em
pun,nas
bigge
pac

[uh-oh]

...because he's white.
Don't lie, dude kinda boody...
no doubt yo

little 13 year old white kids like myself supported him because his corniness was suited to that audience. his sing songy bullshit basically.

the dope depressing druggy tracks kept people around. and anymore he's just all around wack

[Malachi]

Lol @ eminem being wack

Tf outta here yo

[Anonymous]

Possessed = best white rapper/ best rapper of all time.

[Strikta]

His approach to the game today is wack.

He has no angle.

But lyrically he's gifted as fuck & should try & revert back to his style when he made Infinite.

Imo.

[Meth]

Rap sucks, lol

[Immaculate]

Comparing past artists to present artists causes conflict. Past artists were GREATS because they conquered that era in what they did best.

Every generation is different, with different tastes' of music. Em was great when he came out, he brought hope for aspiring white (hiphop) artists, thats truth. I'm not a huge fan of him, but I recognize what he's done & achieved, and that's what we have to realise is what happens behind closed doors, the hard work that EVERY artist has to go through.

[Allen Knight]

He had something new.

And we were hype to finally have one of our own.

But there wasnt anybody mainstream sayin what he was sayin, it was fresh.


hate to agree with this bitch ass but its true, and he was dope as fuck
dont hate naq he was ill nothing u say can change that

[super pimp trillionaire]

Not hate, opinion.

[Allen Knight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M38_Re9YNg

nasty as fuck

[super pimp trillionaire]

Need evidence from albs other than mm and ss.

[Witty]

It must be an age thing.

It is.

[Ghost1]

Need evidence from albs other than mm and ss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG6gMAkX5n4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Easy.


People dont like to vouge for the 3rd album but despite a few iffy tracks hes got sum jewels on it

[Ghost1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYhh6kObzw8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Anonymous]

Need evidence from albs other than mm and ss.

Cbf finding links.

Infinite - infinite
Infinite - 313
Infinite - tonight

[Ghost1]

Eh, infinite was boring as fuck to me. Every song sounds the same bleghck

[Anonymous]

Eh, infinite was boring as fuck to me. Every song sounds the same bleghck

I agree the cheap recording he used on all the tracks makes them sound similar. But the album has some of his best verses to date imo

[bleak]

I wanted an album so rugged, nobody could touch it.
Spend a million a track, and went over my budget.
Now how the fk am I supposed to get out of debt?
I can't rap anymore, I just murdered the alphabet.

Idk why the fuck I'm here in the first place
My worst day on earth was my first birthday.
Retarded? What did that nurse say?
Brain damage? Fuck, I was born during an earthquake.

yo

[super pimp trillionaire]

Soldier is dope. But I never bought a kiss album. And kiss is dope, but he doesn't have album burners that make me wanna keep the shit in repeat. I need at least two or three good singles before I check for an album. And when I check for it, it better have at least sixty per cent dope off rip. Otherwise I don't bother dlin and I never pay. Three good songs don't win an album imo, so em show don't count. And when I say an artist is good, I mean consistent quality and growth and its dope when an artist life changes are somewhat in time with mine... it personalized the music and em very rarely spoke my voice. And then when he did, it sometimes seemed disingenuous, too calculated... but sometimes he seemed like my nigga from back in the day. So to recap, I recognize ems skill and like a bunch of his shit. But he is undeniably overrated. Just like big and jay and nas, fans can't scrape the love out they ears and be rational. Dummies...
Anyway, em was boosted way too hard early on and that has helped him, and then eight mile...
Look its not a bad thing, if black people had my back like that I'd be coolin

[Dove Dozer]

people can bash on eminem all they want, but Rakim and tonnes of other great emcees give him his props and admit he's dope as fuck.. nobody wants beef with eminem, he's a beast on the mic.

youtube that shit. so many haters. regardless of skin tone and who did what when, eminem has got some serious talent and the top tier dogs in hip hop regcognize it. Funny how so many unfamous nobodies hate on him. Im not one of these 18-22 year old hip hoppers either. But you gotta recognize talent when you see it.

[Flow]

I only saw the first page of this but wtf!! Eminem is a beast. Salon shadly lp Marshall mathews lp recovery were great albums. The boy has taken to say some things that take some balls tonput out there on a major label, he can literally rhyme any word, has an array of amazing multis, subliminally insults artists he collabs with, has pretty much owned everyone he had beef with, has evolved his style with his aged and paid off, is an actually talented freestyler, fuck the fact he's White, who gives a fuck?! I ain't listening to his colour!

Friends are back stabbing ass snakes with friendly grins


Oh an I'm older 22 so does that give it more credit - fuck out of here

[super pimp trillionaire]

Hey you dumb fucks, I never said he was untalented. I said he blew up because of eight mile and that blew up cause of white folks. Stop crying.

[Ghost1]

lol so u mad at 8mile, i dont think that blew him up too much.... maybe a lil bit commercially, but he was already hyped as fuck b4 it came out, thats why it was so successful.......i never actually liked it, or him more because of it, but i watched and wanted too because of how much i already liked him/how hype he was prior

[super pimp trillionaire]

True, fuck eminem.

[Ghost1]

Lol,word.

[Split]

Lol,word.

Nice avy

Say what u want about Em, he fucking murders that verse in Dead Wrong

[uh-oh]

BAGS WE AINT COOL NIGGA

dont post that eminem bullshit and talk down on infinite

even tho infinite only had a few tracks

[~RustyGunZ~]

no doubt yo

little 13 year old white kids like myself supported him because his corniness was suited to that audience. his sing songy bullshit basically.

the dope depressing druggy tracks kept people around. and anymore he's just all around wack

word the fuck up

i stopped being able to tolerate most of his music by age 16, by now i can only listen to features and some of the really classic shit that wasn't to corny

overall i think he is nothing great

and @odbarqweaponarm i completely agree with 8 mile tainting raps image

as i've stated before i think 8 mile is a heap of shit that should be erased from history

[Badweather]

Em blew up because he harped on his subject matter in a completely zany and unheard of way (at the time), and listeners were shocked and curious about who he was. His ability to rhyme helped in his shock factor, 'cause not only was it outlandish, but it rhymed in a way we've never heard. His race may have been only slightly relevant, considering a white dude was ripping shit up, which added to the shock factor.

[Badweather]

I remember when I first saw "hi, my name is" on mtv, I wasn't sure if it was a joke or not....but his rhyming made me research him


I'm sure everyone who heard that shit had their ears perk up and go "whaaaaat?! Haahahaa what?!" And then look in to it

[Ghost1]

BAGS WE AINT COOL NIGGA

dont post that eminem bullshit and talk down on infinite

even tho infinite only had a few tracks

Lol, i still have no idea or read.on what exactly ur taste is......just when i think i know....u just.....u just ...i dont even know...... plus eminem was white when he made infinite so according to ur backwards uncle toming u were not a fan of the album. Point bags.

[uh-oh]

good POINT

but yea my taste is retarded.

i like depressed em. i meant to say that "eminem show shit" im just buzzed up.

anything post marshall mathers lp was depressing. the 8 mile soundtrack had some shit tho. that I JUST WANNA LOVE YOU. FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. or whatever the hook went, with obie and 50 da god. fireeee

im just a fan of good music. infinite was some classic hip hop shit. alot of weirdo shit, but all em's shit had weirdo shit.

[Ghost1]

I only posted those cuz naq said it couldnt be from sslp or mmlp

But word

[Malachi]

aye, can someone explain why 8 mile was so bad?

[Ghost1]

Lmfao.naq back to thread.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Because of the same reason masai hates last samurai. imo, I think it was prolly one of the best rap movies ever made, rap movie... It was the retarded fans that brought my wrath upon eminem.

[Flow]

8 Mile was in no way an increase in his popularity with people who listen to rap - it increased his popularity with middle aged people perhaps and parents who had spent years thinking he was some vermin damaging there childrens ears probably relaxed a little...

I personally thought 8 mile was aight, wasnt great but it was aight. I mean if you ever actually watched eminems battles when he was a young up and commer, they are alot better then anything in that movie, but I did like the extras to the film and the idea behind it. If it wasnt for 8 mile we would probably have less people interested in battling, an what fun is that, a hobby shared by an elitest group who without new tastes and flavors would eventually stand still in elevation. I know after watching that film the first thing I did was start freestyling again which I hadnt done in a while.

Don't know why the hate on Eminem is so popular these days. Also how can anyone say Recovery wasnt a sick album?!?!
I loved slim shady and marshall mathers lp's
I liked eminem show
Hated everything else
Until recovery...and even eminem wont listen to his shit post eminem show. He was strung out on drugs.. I am sure most of us have wrote some shit when we fucked...

Anyways the new Eminem I think is a beast, hes been killing it since Recovery and he is going to be different to who he was, his first album was in the 90s he has been a forfront figure in rap since like 1999, thats 3 decades. (dont be a clever dick you know what i mean) hes going to have matured and changed.

Fuck it thats my 2 cents on the matter

[Anonymous]

Don't know why the hate on Eminem is so popular these days. Also how can anyone say Recovery wasnt a sick album?!?!
I loved slim shady and marshall mathers lp's
I liked eminem show
Hated everything else
Until recovery...and even eminem wont listen to his shit post eminem show. He was strung out on drugs.. I am sure most of us have wrote some shit when we fucked...

Anyways the new Eminem I think is a beast, hes been killing it since Recovery and he is going to be different to who he was, his first album was in the 90s he has been a forfront figure in rap since like 1999, thats 3 decades. (dont be a clever dick you know what i mean) hes going to have matured and changed.

Fuck it thats my 2 cents on the matter

Recovery wasn't 'a sick album'.
Relapse and encore were both better.
And you can't honestly sit here and say he has been killing it since.
I think his verse on 'my life' gave me cancer and aids simultaneously.
The only good thing he's done is the shady cypher 2.0. That was fucking mental.

[Flow]

Anyone who thinks relapse was better then anything has 0 knowledge of music - that album fucking sucked saville dick

[dead man]

that I JUST WANNA LOVE YOU. FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. or whatever the hook went, with obie and 50 da god. fireeee
fuckk i forgot about that song

first track i ever heard 50 on

i thought r kelly was the shit
let me find out he fuckin round with bow wow bitch

[Anonymous]

Anyone who thinks relapse was better then anything has 0 knowledge of music - that album fucking sucked saville dick

When you look past his annoying-as-fuck accent. It was better than recovery.

[Witty]

Recovery wasn't 'a sick album'.
Relapse and encore were both better.
And you can't honestly sit here and say he has been killing it since.
I think his verse on 'my life' gave me cancer and aids simultaneously.
The only good thing he's done is the shady cypher 2.0. That was fucking mental.

Hell the sequel was pretty dope too imo.

[Anonymous]

Hell the sequel was pretty dope too imo.

Word. 'Welcome to hell' has one of his best verses of all time. HTS is his best tape since The eminem show IMO.

[Witty]

Word. 'Welcome to hell' has one of his best verses of all time. HTS is his best tape since The eminem show IMO.

I agree.

[Dove Dozer]

his shady 2.0 cypher verse was off the hook..

[veritas]

Cronus vs strikta: wigger death match

[super pimp trillionaire]

Laughed out loud.
V/strik tbh

[Ghost1]

canadiens called!