that loud music murder trial

[Fig]

Bet that white dude is guna get off scotch free

not cuz he is white

but because it's Florida

the penis shaped state that brought such hits as George Zimmerman and Casey Anthony. wablaaam

[PancakeBrah]

"Scotch free" he said.

[Fig]

damn I'm embarrassed now

I guess this is rock bottom

[PancakeBrah]

Fig are you high yet?

[Fig]

Fig are you high yet?

Nope

[uh-oh]

they're gonna crucify him and make an example

even if he acted in self defense and the kids dumped the gun(s) they had or didnt have

the problem with these cases is people take sides before hearing or seeing evidence, and when they hear and see evidence they use to to reinforce there initial stance, instead of looking at it subjectively

but word they are gonna crucify white dude i can't see him getting off

i could see zimmerman getting off cuz he did it all by the book. this dude went home and ate pizza like a savage

[Fig]

Man casey anthony ate pizza for thirty days after killing her baby, and still got off. Obviously different but, just saying

[Wise Wiggles]

I am unable to bus


Meh

[TYSON]

Wow over some loud music at a store. If he gets off free then u know for sure florida justice system is racist as fuck.

[Wise Wiggles]

Imnstillgon

[Fig]

Whys weighs fat

[uh-oh]

Wow over some loud music at a store. If he gets off free then u know for sure florida justice system is racist as fuck.

this is what i was referring to when i said people take sides racially before even looking at the whole scenario

we aint on the jury, we don't have the evidence, we aint looking into the eyes of the victims or the accused, we are reading media reports made to be sensational to get more views and viewers

[Fig]

this is what i was referring to when i said people take sides racially before even looking at the whole scenario

we aint on the jury, we don't have the evidence, we aint looking into the eyes of the victims or the accused, we are reading media reports made to be sensational to get more views and viewers

Yee this is why black people are racist

[TYSON]

this is what i was referring to when i said people take sides racially before even looking at the whole scenario

we aint on the jury, we don't have the evidence, we aint looking into the eyes of the victims or the accused, we are reading media reports made to be sensational to get more views and viewers

Stand by what i said tho.

If it was racially switched then there would be no question on the verdict(cliche, i know). Im not gon say they didnt do anything wrong but the fact is another white man could be a acquitted for killing another unarmed black man in the same state. If he does not get convicted. The fact that it started over loud "rap" music at a store is the icing on the cake for me if it was some bluegrass honkytonk then he would pulled out his piccolo and had a grand ole time. My beef is with the state not necessarily aimed at white people. This only matters if he is found not guilty tho...

[God Of War]

Stand by what i said tho.

If it was racially switched then there would be no question on the verdict(cliche, i know). Im not gon say they didnt do anything wrong but the fact is another white man could be a acquitted for killing another unarmed black man in the same state. If he does not get convicted. The fact that it started over loud "rap" music at a store is the icing on the cake for me if it was some bluegrass honkytonk then he would pulled out his piccolo and had a grand ole time. My beef is with the state not necessarily aimed at white people. This only matters if he is found not guilty tho...

FALSE, IF it was racially switched it wouldnt be automatic

[uh-oh]

Stand by what i said tho.

If it was racially switched then there would be no question on the verdict(cliche, i know). Im not gon say they didnt do anything wrong but the fact is another white man could be a acquitted for killing another unarmed black man in the same state. If he does not get convicted. The fact that it started over loud "rap" music at a store is the icing on the cake for me if it was some bluegrass honkytonk then he would pulled out his piccolo and had a grand ole time. My beef is with the state not necessarily aimed at white people. This only matters if he is found not guilty tho...

we don't know that they were unarmed.

[Fig]

we don't know that they were unarmed.

Yes we do

[uh-oh]

also white people dont bump music like that

nothing in this post condones anything that happened, im just giving perspective. i talked with my dad about this, he's racist as fuck btw he's an old biker type white dude.

he doesnt UNDERSTAND hip hop culture. when white people listen to music loud, its at the house. they build crazy home stereos, have house parties that type of shit. rock and roll, blues, country and other musics that white people love, have no CULTURE of listening to it loud in there cars.

hip hop has a whole car sub culture. from customising the looks to building an amazing system

part of it is being seen and heard. oh shit he's bumping that old shyne. i see you YO. out here doing it. you want to be heard and seen, whether its your friends or your just showing out

old white people dont understand that, its insulting to them. they are in a public place pumping gas, and 3 feet from them is a car thats trunklid wants to fly off from the crazy decibles of bass going through it. you are BOTHERING them.

the same way as if you are an old black guy pumping gas, and a bunch of white kids pull up bumping jeezy, or even black kids i said white but really its not a race thing as much as a cultural thing

you could be blaring that guys favorite song, its the blaring it that bothers them, not just the music. but when you add on top they dont get the music its that much worse

look back at when rock and roll was coming out. the older generation just didnt understand it. the screaming the fans being crazy the acts themselves being crazy

its more of a cultural difference than a racial difference. its only racial because the past cultures were actually segregated so its associated with a race, rather than a culture itself.

[Mael]

Just a note; Scot refers to the tax paid by villagers in medieval England in proportion to the size of their property. Some villagers would escape this tax due to their property being in unfavorable places such as hills or flood prone areas, hence they were dubbed "scot free".

Only know this beforehand because I used a few Old English words in an OM from a website that listed scot, a noun.

Carry on.

[uh-oh]

Yes we do

we absolutely do not.

they fled the scene, went to a parking lot and where ever else, before coming back.

on top of that police didnt search the area until 4 days later. they couldve came back and got anything they ditched and moved it again 100 times in 4 days

for all we know they had a gun with no ammo and tried to scare white dude when he told them to turn his music off, got shot up, fled to dump the weapon and get away from that psycho, and then came back like HELP

*ALLEGEDLY by the way, since none of us know anything, because none of us were there and we are all forming opinions off of opinions already formed and portrayed by the media

[Fig]

we absolutely do not.

they fled the scene, went to a parking lot and where ever else, before coming back.

on top of that police didnt search the area until 4 days later. they couldve came back and got anything they ditched and moved it again 100 times in 4 days

for all we know they had a gun with no ammo and tried to scare white dude when he told them to turn his music off, got shot up, fled to dump the weapon and get away from that psycho, and then came back like HELP

*ALLEGEDLY by the way, since none of us know anything, because none of us were there and we are all forming opinions off of opinions already formed and portrayed by the media

Dude yeah I got you but by that logic, for all we know those dudes had a fuckin voltron that they ditched afterwards. I need to get more familiar with this case though before I can actually argue anything

[uh-oh]

exactly

you admit your ignorance after trying to argue a point you can't PROVE

you are part of the problem.

[Fig]

exactly

you admit your ignorance after trying to argue a point you can't PROVE

you are part of the problem.

Forgive us our debts, as we have also forgiven our debtors

[God Of War]

wow he wasa found guilty

this dude just paid for trayvon martin dying

[Witty]

I dunno why people care about things like this.

[TYSON]

U wouldnt think he ditched a gun if he wasnt black.

[Fig]

I dunno why people care about things like this.

Because in America kids are getting shot a lot and it's awkward now

[God Of War]

U wouldnt think he ditched a gun if he wasnt black.

you wouldnt give a fuck if he got killed if he wasnt black

[Witty]

Because in America kids are getting shot a lot and it's awkward now

yeah but how is you caring about it gonna change anything?

[Witty]

you wouldnt give a fuck if he got killed if he wasnt black

Advantage GOW.

[TYSON]

Yes i would but i see u avoided my point. I am addressing a trending issue that is going on in florida tho the trend seems tp have stopped since he was found guilty. 17 year old black males getting shot down unarmed. I know there is issues on both sides.

[Fig]

yeah but how is you caring about it gonna change anything?

Change to Floridas stand your ground law would help a lil

[Witty]

Change to Floridas stand your ground law would help a lil

yeah but how is you caring about it gonna change it?

they do what they want, they will make little changes here and there so people don't realise they are being fucked in the ass and start rioting, but if they wanna do something it will be done, regardless of what u think.

This is why i just care about space and stuff, cuz humans haven't ruined space...yet.

[TYSON]

Change to Floridas stand your ground law would help a lil

Yes

[King Karaoke]

Hi...

Arguing about this online is pointless...

Bye...

[Witty]

Hi...

Arguing about this online is pointless...

Bye...

Arguing about it anywhere is pointless.

[Fig]

yeah but how is you caring about it gonna change it?

they do what they want, they will make little changes here and there so people don't realise they are being fucked in the ass and start rioting, but if they wanna do something it will be done, regardless of what u think.

This is why i just care about space and stuff, cuz humans haven't ruined space...yet.

So we should have no sociological sensibility. We should live like yogis in the forest and be one with andromeda

[Witty]

So we should have no sociological sensibility. We should live like yogis in the forest and be one with andromeda

Either that or resign yourself to the fact that your government will always win, they will always have their penis deep inside your ass. How can you really stop them? You can believe whatever, it's cool to have beliefs and to use them as a moral compass to guide you through your life, but don't fool yourself into thinking you will make a difference in the world. Things may change, and they may even seem to get better, but really they just found a new way to fuck you in the ass without you knowing.

So yeah, the only other alternative is to cut yourself off from society...and I don't think that's a realistic alternative for most, so really u gotta take that ass raping, u gotta grin, and u gotta bare it.

[Fig]

Either that or resign yourself to the fact that your government will always win, they will always have their penis deep inside your ass. How can you really stop them? You can believe whatever, it's cool to have beliefs and to use them as a moral compass to guide you through your life, but don't fool yourself into thinking you will make a difference in the world. Things may change, and they may even seem to get better, but really they just found a new way to fuck you in the ass without you knowing.

So yeah, the only other alternative is to cut yourself off from society...and I don't think that's a realistic alternative for most, so really u gotta take that ass raping, u gotta grin, and u gotta bare it.

I.have much to say about this

But I'm off to work

Good day

[Witty]

Have fun.

[God Of War]

Yes i would but i see u avoided my point. I am addressing a trending issue that is going on in florida tho the trend seems tp have stopped since he was found guilty. 17 year old black males getting shot down unarmed. I know there is issues on both sides.

a kid beating someones head in got shot

a bunch of kids out being dumb as fuck one of them got shot

claimed they had a gun, it isnt uncommon for them to think they show someone a gun and it just scare the guy and he leave they wasnt expecting him to have a gun of his own

the only trend i see is the fact that you can call racism on anyhting and when you do , it automatically makes it national news i also see the trend of screaming racism on every fucking thing

[King Karaoke]

Hi...

I know I said that arguing abt this online is pointless but Zimmerman could've defended himself in another way...
especially since hes an amateur boxer all of the sudden...
Your brother was a career criminal and u cry about him getting killed by police yet a black kid gets killed for listening to rap and u say it was justified...
smh...
I don't get it...

Bye...

[TYSON]

a kid beating someones head in got shot

a bunch of kids out being dumb as fuck one of them got shot

claimed they had a gun, it isnt uncommon for them to think they show someone a gun and it just scare the guy and he leave they wasnt expecting him to have a gun of his own

the only trend i see is the fact that you can call racism on anyhting and when you do , it automatically makes it national news i also see the trend of screaming racism on every fucking thing

In your crusade u showed u got a lil racism in u. The verdict is guilty right yet u still because of stereotypes believe they probably did flash a gun lol just like i still think Zimmerman instigated the altercation on racial premises that lead to trayvons death. U know what i think i am bias because its a black men but also i am addressing the illusion that white are living in. There is racism still out there even in the judicial system. U dismiss these claims so that u feel good about overcoming past mistakes and yes we have came a very long way. But to act like black people are exaggerating racial injustice is wrong its still out there u wouldn't know cause u are not black. It didnt die like u want to believe. I dont control what the media puts out so im not gon touch that.

[Witty]

Just get rid of the guns.

[TYSON]

Just get rid of the guns.

No i need my gun. It hasn't been fired once tho which i need to go to a gun range and let it bust a couple nuts. I need it just in case somebody tries to break in the crib and im not there or its more then one etc.

[TYSON]

What the hell is a peephole?

[Witty]

lol then don't be surprised when kids get shot, because you 'need' your gun.

I don't have a gun, grew up in a warzone, a literal battle ground...never been shot, because nobody can just go buy a gun, and the people who do have guns used them to fight the other people with guns. Kids weren't shooting kids because kids did not have any access to guns.

Nobody needs a gun, you want a gun...so don't complain when things like this happen.

[TYSON]

I get what u saying witty. But the country i live in has guns everywhere so yes i "need" a gun. There is too many in my house that i will give my life to see live another day i will not let anything happen to them without me putting up as much of a fight as i can. 8 kids no older then 10 and two elderly women so i will protect with whatever's available.

[TYSON]

Also their all white lol

[Witty]

If nobody had guns they wouldn't be everywhere.

[uh-oh]

U wouldnt think he ditched a gun if he wasnt black.

i don't think he ditched a gun.

i'm saying its possible he could have. you are the one viewing this as a race issue and you are projecting your problems with race, onto me.

[TYSON]

Not knocking your logic but i would say 80% of the people with guns feel the same way i feel about having them so i dont see it ever happening

[uh-oh]

yeah but how is you caring about it gonna change it?

they do what they want, they will make little changes here and there so people don't realise they are being fucked in the ass and start rioting, but if they wanna do something it will be done, regardless of what u think.

This is why i just care about space and stuff, cuz humans haven't ruined space...yet.

this is america bro, i don't know how things work in ireland, being as you guys are basically a vassal to a real nation.

but in america we vote to put laws in, and to take them out. if the people in florida had a problem with the stand your ground law, they can vote to have it removed. they are a sovereign state under the united states of america.

people talking about and voicing there opinions, leads to people forming opinions which they use when they vote.

the local and state levels are just about the only place your vote still actually matters

[TYSON]

i don't think he ditched a gun.

i'm saying its possible he could have. you are the one viewing this as a race issue and you are projecting your problems with race, onto me.

Maybe, but it seems like u trying to mask racial prejudice with cultural prejudice to ignore the fact that there is still racism out there..

[God Of War]

In your crusade u showed u got a lil racism in u. The verdict is guilty right yet u still because of stereotypes believe they probably did flash a gun lol just like i still think Zimmerman instigated the altercation on racial premises that lead to trayvons death. U know what i think i am bias because its a black men but also i am addressing the illusion that white are living in. There is racism still out there even in the judicial system. U dismiss these claims so that u feel good about overcoming past mistakes and yes we have came a very long way. But to act like black people are exaggerating racial injustice is wrong its still out there u wouldn't know cause u are not black. It didnt die like u want to believe. I dont control what the media puts out so im not gon touch that.

of course you call someone racist, first line of defense isnt it?

[God Of War]

Hi...

I know I said that arguing abt this online is pointless but Zimmerman could've defended himself in another way...
especially since hes an amateur boxer all of the sudden...
Your brother was a career criminal and u cry about him getting killed by police yet a black kid gets killed for listening to rap and u say it was justified...
smh...
I don't get it...

Bye...

a career criminal how? when did i ever say that?


i never said it was justified, is aid dunn got sentance for zimmerman, people scream racism way way way before they should.. of you dont like it then thats your fault

if i got a gun and someone pulls a gun or flashes one at me in the middle of an arguement, guess whats going to happen?


how about all the spanish/white kids who got killed by other races? thats ok karaoke cuz they wasnt black?

[TYSON]

of course you call someone racist, first line of defense isnt it?

Lol GOW u got what wanted out of what i said i understand i do it sometimes myself. Do some black folks do that? Yes, u happy? But do u really think they all crying wolf? It does happen.

[uh-oh]

Maybe, but it seems like u trying to mask racial prejudice with cultural prejudice to ignore the fact that there is still racism out there..

nah im sure every member of netcees, let alone the world knows racism is alive

my main problem with it is that these things get portrayed by race from the beginning

my thing is follow facts, i mean people are still saying he killed people because they listened to rap music

people are ignorant, we live in a time of headlines and facebook and people regurgitating what others say instead of actually looking at facts and forming there own opinions

my opinion is this dude is dangerous. he drank, he drove, and he shot at people after an argument. he should be taken off the streets

[God Of War]

nah im sure every member of netcees, let alone the world knows racism is alive

my main problem with it is that these things get portrayed by race from the beginning

my thing is follow facts, i mean people are still saying he killed people because they listened to rap music

people are ignorant, we live in a time of headlines and facebook and people regurgitating what others say instead of actually looking at facts and forming there own opinions

my opinion is this dude is dangerous. he drank, he drove, and he shot at people after an argument. he should be taken off the streets

thats my thing, and i hear alot bout this case its my county,

except my opinion is if they cant prove them kids didnt have a gun they cant prove it wasnt out of a self defense

[God Of War]

Lol GOW u got what wanted out of what i said i understand i do it sometimes myself. Do some black folks do that? Yes, u happy? But do u really think they all crying wolf? It does happen.

my thing is it happens every where

by crying racism instantly its taken the fact off there is kids out there dying no matter what race and color that is getting over looked because the media would rather focus on a color instead of an issue

[TYSON]

So GOW do u think the jasper,tx case has nothing to do with race? The interracial couple whose husband was found slashed up. The cops so called have no leads yet the fbi found that the case wasnt being approached with any urgency by local authority.

[God Of War]

So GOW do u think the jasper,tx case has nothing to do with race? The interracial couple whose husband was found slashed up. The cops so called have no leads yet the fbi found that the case wasnt being approached with any urgency by local authority.

I never said some cases doesnt, i said every case doesnt

do you think no white people is killed because of race?

how about spanish people?


how many oyu see in the news?


calling racism right away because of the color of some ones skin is absurd and taking the focus off what is important

[uh-oh]

thats my thing, and i hear alot bout this case its my county,

except my opinion is if they cant prove them kids didnt have a gun they cant prove it wasnt out of a self defense

word. in my city some black kids killed an old white ww2 veteran while trying to rob him. they're even shaking down the witnesses in the case and shit who are testifying against them.

its not portrayed as a race thing, its just portrayed as murder. but if two white kids robbed and killed one of the tuskegee airmen people would lose there shit lol

but the point is, every crime and situation is different. yet the media wants you to believe that everytime a white man kills a black man its because he was BLACK. not because he's a murderer nah he's a RACIST murderer

im sure some are, i just dont think its the determining factor in alot of cases

[Witty]

this is america bro, i don't know how things work in ireland, being as you guys are basically a vassal to a real nation.

but in america we vote to put laws in, and to take them out. if the people in florida had a problem with the stand your ground law, they can vote to have it removed. they are a sovereign state under the united states of america.

people talking about and voicing there opinions, leads to people forming opinions which they use when they vote.

the local and state levels are just about the only place your vote still actually matters

Yeah but what I'm saying is, people can vote and get things changed but they are just gonna switch the system up and find new ways to fuck u just as hard.

Also, America isn't all that good really.

[TYSON]

thats my thing, and i hear alot bout this case its my county,

except my opinion is if they cant prove them kids didnt have a gun they cant prove it wasnt out of a self defense

Circumstantial evidence hold very little stance in court.

[God Of War]

Circumstantial evidence hold very little stance in court.

but i think leaving the crime scene, going to a parking lot, coming back should be looked at as "ok wtf happened" dont you think?

[God Of War]

but the point is, every crime and situation is different. yet the media wants you to believe that everytime a white man kills a black man its because he was BLACK. not because he's a murderer nah he's a RACIST murderer



thats exactly what im trying to say bro, and im also adding that it makes people get convicted differently based off of that

[uh-oh]

Yeah but what I'm saying is, people can vote and get things changed but they are just gonna switch the system up and find new ways to fuck u just as hard.

Also, America isn't all that good really.
america is as good as it gets man

not saying its the best (it is), other countries are good too. yours is one of them. but yours is great britain. not ireland. you ask us to give up our guns. why? because your people gave up yours? you talk of wars being fought in your streets, yet you dont see a need for having a gun?

you are delusional. i don't blame you. i blame your countrymen.

[TYSON]

word. in my city some black kids killed an old white ww2 veteran while trying to rob him. they're even shaking down the witnesses in the case and shit who are testifying against them.

its not portrayed as a race thing, its just portrayed as murder. but if two white kids robbed and killed one of the tuskegee airmen people would lose there shit lol

but the point is, every crime and situation is different. yet the media wants you to believe that everytime a white man kills a black man its because he was BLACK. not because he's a murderer nah he's a RACIST murderer

im sure some are, i just dont think its the determining factor in alot of cases

I get what yall saying of course but America did this to itself. Countless muders went without justice toward the black communities, countless. Its like a man cheated on his wife and they get back together. She will forever think he may cheat again and bring it up when an argument rises lol not the best analogy but im sure my point got across. Is it a healthy transition no but hopefully it gets better.

[uh-oh]

I get what yall saying of course but America did this to itself. Countless muders went without justice toward the black communities, countless. Its like a man cheated on his wife and they get back together. She will forever think he may cheat again and bring it up when an argument rises lol not the best analogy but im sure my point got across. Is it a healthy transition no but hopefully it gets better.
word we're all on the same page now i think

now lets talk about how america is awesome

[God Of War]

word we're all on the same page now i think

now lets talk about how america is awesome

it is a pretty great country isnt it?

least we're not canada is my motto! lmao

[TYSON]

but i think leaving the crime scene, going to a parking lot, coming back should be looked at as "ok wtf happened" dont you think?

Yea but i think him going home and going about his business till the next day made that not even compare to them leaving shit he was dying in the car of course u gon leave the area where he got blasted but thats just my opinion.

[God Of War]

Yea but i think him going home and going about his business till the next day made that not even compare to them leaving shit he was dying in the car of course u gon leave the area where he got blasted but thats just my opinion.

but ima go to a hospital rofl

and i agree the dude is whacked out his mind

im just syaing the case isnt being looked at how it should at all

[Witty]

america is as good as it gets man

not saying its the best (it is), other countries are good too. yours is one of them. but yours is great britain. not ireland. you ask us to give up our guns. why? because your people gave up yours? you talk of wars being fought in your streets, yet you dont see a need for having a gun?

you are delusional. i don't blame you. i blame your countrymen.


Northern Ireland is part of Ireland, it is in the name...Ireland consists of two countries, but they are both Ireland.

Great Britain is a group of countries.

Since we gave up our guns things have got much more peacful, much less crime, less people dying.

It has been nothing but good for my country, so I don't know what you're talking about....Northern Ireland is the MAIN example of how putting weapons down works, it has been a huge success. There are still those who want it to continue but their numbers are very very small, and they have lost the support of the people. The number of people dying is nowhere even close to what it once was.

I'm don't really care if America doesn't give up their guns, I'm saying don't be surprised if kids keep getting killed because you are paranoid and think people are out to get you.

[TYSON]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EA8KEE8mL._SX300_.jpg

[God Of War]

Yea but i think him going home and going about his business till the next day made that not even compare to them leaving shit he was dying in the car of course u gon leave the area where he got blasted but thats just my opinion.

just like this bro

he got 3 counts of attempted murder\

he got dismissed on the count of murder for killing jordan right?

rofl ok if he tried to kill the other 3 then hefucking tried to kill jordan right? or if he didnt try to kill jordan then it wasnt attempted murder for the other three


u see what im saying? that shit is fucking weird and makes no sense and all the bullshit is whats fucking up cases from really being handled with justice

[Witty]

Also America is not as good as it gets....they are farrrr behind in a lot of areas, healthcare, education, the fight against poverty, murder rates, etc etc.

You're feeding into a lie if you think your country is the greatest country on earth, it is the most powerful, there is a difference, great countries look after their people from top to bottom, the rich and the poor....America, Ireland, the UK etc can all learn a lot from Scandinavian countries, I've said it before but they really do countries and human rights better than anyone, they look after their own.

[TYSON]

How the fuck he get convicted of attempted murder on the other three but not guilty for murder or anything for the man who actually got killed? Yea thats fishy

[God Of War]

Also America is not as good as it gets....they are farrrr behind in a lot of areas, healthcare, education, the fight against poverty, murder rates, etc etc.

You're feeding into a lie if you think your country is the greatest country on earth, it is the most powerful, there is a difference, great countries look after their people from top to bottom, the rich and the poor....America, Ireland, the UK etc can all learn a lot from Scandinavian countries, I've said it before but they really do countries and human rights better than anyone, they look after their own.

in what form of education because in higher education there not behind

[God Of War]

How the fuck he get convicted of attempted murder on the other three but not guilty for murder or anything for the man who actually got killed? Yea thats fishy

thats the shit im talking bout bro, it makes no fucking sense, n its the media n shit calling it racism that is doing it...


the dude killed a child...color has nothing to do with it u know what i mean?

[Witty]

in what form of education because in higher education there not behind

Word, in higher education they are ahead, they have students coming from all around the world.

But just in education in general, all age groups taken into account, they are far behind.


According to the report, The Learning Curve, developed by the Economist Intelligence Unit, the United States ranks seventeenth out of forty countries ranked in overall educational performance. Finland ranks first. The top ten countries in educational performance are:

Finland
South Korea
Hong Kong SAR
Japan
Singapore
United Kingdom
Netherlands
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada.


American 15-year-olds continue to turn in flat results in a test that measures students' proficiency in reading, math and science worldwide, failing to crack the global top 20.

The Program for International Student Assessment, or PISA, collects test results from 65 countries for its rankings, which come out every three years. The , from 2012, show that U.S. students ranked below average in math among the world's most-developed countries. They were close to average in science and reading.

"In mathematics, 29 nations and other jurisdictions outperformed the United States by a statistically significant margin, up from 23 three years ago," reports . "In science, 22 education systems scored above the U.S. average, up from 18 in 2009."

In reading, 19 other locales scored higher than U.S. students — a jump from nine in 2009, when the last assessment was performed.

The top overall scores came from Shanghai, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, Macao and Japan, followed by Lichtenstein, Switzerland, the Netherlands and Estonia.

[TYSON]

This is why i try not to watch the news or pay attention to propaganda but i got pulled into this one and once again like all media fueled cases im left saying wtf lol. Done.

[God Of War]

Word, in higher education they are ahead, they have students coming from all around the world.

But just in education in general, all age groups taken into account, they are far behind.

yeah but you dont think if say finland had a population the size of america it would change? finland has like 5 million lmao america has like 300 million theres a big difference when getting the average in them numbers

[Witty]

I will explain how those numbers are attained, but it's 3am and I'm obliterated and intoxicated and I need to sleep.

I will come back to this thread tho.

I love America really, you all know that, I'm just debating for the sake of it, god bless the USA.

[God Of War]

I will explain how those numbers are attained, but it's 3am and I'm obliterated and intoxicated and I need to sleep.

I will come back to this thread tho.

I love America really, you all know that, I'm just debating for the sake of it, god bless the USA.

im just saying ur bound to have mor retards in 300 million then u are in 3 million :)

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Northern Ireland is part of Ireland, it is in the name...Ireland consists of two countries, but they are both Ireland.

Great Britain is a group of countries.

Since we gave up our guns things have got much more peacful, much less crime, less people dying.

It has been nothing but good for my country, so I don't know what you're talking about....Northern Ireland is the MAIN example of how putting weapons down works, it has been a huge success. There are still those who want it to continue but their numbers are very very small, and they have lost the support of the people. The number of people dying is nowhere even close to what it once was.

I'm don't really care if America doesn't give up their guns, I'm saying don't be surprised if kids keep getting killed because you are paranoid and think people are out to get you.

north ireland and south ireland both gave up.

claiming ireland is like claiming egypt after caesar came through. you aren't egypt. your rome. you kick money up to rome. they took your guns and your people gave up like hey if we don't fight we don't die. your country gives its lunch money to the bully in the school, and you condone it, and look down upon those who want to punch him in the nose.

you praise worthless countries that mean nothing. sweden can treat its people great as long as it wants, but can sweden protect itself from the horrors of war?

you speak about healthcare like america will just let you die or something. if you need help, whether you have insurance or not, or if you have no money to your name, it is illegal for a hospital to not help you. they have to help you. you can't schedule a dr visit without money or insurance, but theres no point in doctors visits. we are men. we go to the hospital when something is wrong.

i didnt get obama care, im not paying any fines, if they try to garnish my wages i will quit my job. i dont believe in socialised health care.

i believe in GUNS and GEORGE WASHINGTON

[uh-oh]

Word, in higher education they are ahead, they have students coming from all around the world.

But just in education in general, all age groups taken into account, they are far behind.

name the smartest person you can think of

[Orc]

america is as good as it gets man

not saying its the best (it is), other countries are good too. yours is one of them. but yours is great britain. not ireland. you ask us to give up our guns. why? because your people gave up yours? you talk of wars being fought in your streets, yet you dont see a need for having a gun?

you are delusional. i don't blame you. i blame your countrymen.

ireland is its own country. not a part of great britain or the uk

[Orc]

north ireland and south ireland both gave up.

claiming ireland is like claiming egypt after caesar came through. you aren't egypt. your rome. you kick money up to rome. they took your guns and your people gave up like hey if we don't fight we don't die. your country gives its lunch money to the bully in the school, and you condone it, and look down upon those who want to punch him in the nose.

you praise worthless countries that mean nothing. sweden can treat its people great as long as it wants, but can sweden protect itself from the horrors of war?

you speak about healthcare like america will just let you die or something. if you need help, whether you have insurance or not, or if you have no money to your name, it is illegal for a hospital to not help you. they have to help you. you can't schedule a dr visit without money or insurance, but theres no point in doctors visits. we are men. we go to the hospital when something is wrong.

i didnt get obama care, im not paying any fines, if they try to garnish my wages i will quit my job. i dont believe in socialised health care.

i believe in GUNS and GEORGE WASHINGTON


how did southern ireland give up? first of all its called the Republic of Ireland. the Republic fought for 500+ yrs to get set free and it gained it's independence. starting with partition in 1922. we are our own country!

i find it funny how u claim America to be so good when ur the walking stereotype of how other countries see Americans. spewing uneducated trash. gtfoh

[Witty]

north ireland and south ireland both gave up.

claiming ireland is like claiming egypt after caesar came through. you aren't egypt. your rome. you kick money up to rome. they took your guns and your people gave up like hey if we don't fight we don't die. your country gives its lunch money to the bully in the school, and you condone it, and look down upon those who want to punch him in the nose.

lol man i got to here and stopped reading, it's clear you don't know what you're talking about in this regard, so I think you should read up a little before you try to.

[uh-oh]

i was stoned speaking out of my butthole

i admit i was wrong, south ireland is independent from what im googling. congratulations. i have to admit im not well informed on the history of insignificant nations.

but i thank you guys for braveheart

pretty sure you helped william wallace/mel gibson so thats pretty dope.

[God Of War]

i was stoned speaking out of my butthole

i admit i was wrong, south ireland is independent from what im googling. congratulations. i have to admit im not well informed on the history of insignificant nations.

but i thank you guys for braveheart

pretty sure you helped william wallace/mel gibson so thats pretty dope.


you bastard, u type in a way that i think you know what your talking bout! lmao