Witt what is your opinion on...

[Masaii]

De-extinction? Scientists are able to bring currently extinct animals back to life using their DNA and a close living relative. Example: using DNA from a wooly mamoth skeleton and using an elephant to birth the wooly mamoth (being its closest living relative).

See this link for more info and animal candidates:
http://longnow.org/revive/
Witty

[Witty]

I say yes and then we can kill all the elephants because Mammoths are just a better version of Elephants.

I also say bring back dinosaurs, there aren't enough giant reptiles these days.

[Witty]

It is fascinating though, to think we can bring back animals that don't exist anymore, I'm not sure what the practical use would be, but it would be a pretty cool thing to see, I think it's still something that is in the future, it's still some time from being reality, or being a possible reality at least because they might never actually do it.

[Masaii]

They did it with a mountain goat or something similar recently, it died on birth but it was still considered a success cause they birthed an extinct animal so its not really that far off tbh

[Witty]

A mammoth tho.

[PancakeBrah]

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[Witty]

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[Sicc]

They are working on trying to bring back a dino.

[uh-oh]

why would we kill off elephants witty?????

theyre majestic beasts, way better than dumbass mammoths

do you think a bunch of native americans could run hundreds of elephants off a cliff? NAH they ain't having that. they'd go to war like HANNIBAL and fucking run RAMPANT through those stone age idiots

but dumbass mammoths used to do it all the time and they're like twice the size

but now that i think about it, if they're even half as intelligent as a modern elephant, there size mixed with there fur would make them deadly as fuck. modern elephants would take HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS of arrows, let alone javelins and spears before dying in battle. give them crazy WOOLY fur and its like extra armor.

just imagine for a second you and 79 other men in a roman century, all lined up shield to shield, to the right of your group is another century of 80 men, to the left is another and so on and so forth. but you got a fucking WAR ELEPHANT bearing down on your position, with a box on top of it with 3 of the greatest bowmen in the known world picking targets as fast as they can pull and shoot. meanwhile you got 3 javelins to throw, and a short sword and a shield. if you are rich you maybe got a helm, you might have some chainmail. and you got MANSANDALS

imagine how terrifying it would be trying to kill that elephant when one of your javelins is sticking out of each shoulder, one BOUNCED off of its skull and its 10 feet and closing and your left with your giant shield and a short sword, and the centurion commanding your unit tells you TO HOLD POSITION!!!!!!!!

THUNDER. DEATH

[Sicc]

Science has proven that Elephants are in fact bright animals. They are 1 of the closest too us humans, when it comes to emotion. They are passionate creatures and love their own/family/pride. When one of their own die, they morn just as we would.

Elephants > Mammoth

[Frank Metts]

This is the end of man... Man becomes to smart and too cocky and ends up creating something that will help spread disease and kill humans in mass without regret


Their dead for a reason, evolution happened for a reason


Never wake the dead

Next they will he reproducing loved ones whom are empty and soulless inside

[Sicc]

Zombie Apocalypse.



Imagine that... Real life walking dead.

[Witty]

Mammoths have fur and Massive tusks.

Idgaf which is smarter, I don't need animals to be smart, I need them to be cool to look at on tv when I'm high.

[SiK]

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if we brought back black people with power ^^ we can do anything

[Witty]

This is the end of man... Man becomes to smart and too cocky and ends up creating something that will help spread disease and kill humans in mass without regret


Their dead for a reason, evolution happened for a reason


Never wake the dead

Next they will he reproducing loved ones whom are empty and soulless inside

They aren't really dead for a reason tho, they're just dead because they aren't alive anymore.

Nature has no divine plan, shit just happens.

[Witty]

Did you know a species becomes extinct roughly every 20 minutes.

We only care about the ones that look appealing to us.

I approve of this.

Apart from the Panda, we need to let the fucking Panda die, it doesn't want to be alive.

If all an animal has to do is fuck to ensure survival, and that animal will not fuck even though we BRING IT OTHER PANDAS TO FUCK then that animal has given up on life and it needs to be allowed to die.

[Frank Metts]

They aren't really dead for a reason tho, they're just dead because they aren't alive anymore.

Nature has no divine plan, shit just happens.

This is opinion

Just like mine is


We dont know for sure

But I can tell you we wouldn't be living like we are today if dinosaurs were alive

We might not be alive at all

This isn't the flintstone or the croods if those beast were to adapt and begin to reproduce like a common animal of today then this conversation wouldn't of happened

[Witty]

This is opinion

Just like mine is


We dont know for sure

But I can tell you we wouldn't be living like we are today if dinosaurs were alive

We might not be alive at all

This isn't the flintstone or the croods if those beast were to adapt and begin to reproduce like a common animal of today then this conversation wouldn't of happened

To your first point, fair enough.

To your second point, that's why I said about the practical uses for doing this, I don't think it would be a good idea to actually reintroduce them to the world, but just bring one back so I can look at it and say 'Hey, cool'

[uh-oh]

YO

dinosaurs couldnt live today even if we brought one back, if they didnt die out from an asteroid, ALLEGEDLY, they would have shrunk along with the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere. the reason shit was so big is because the world had like 30x the oxygen

so basically what im getting at is killing a tiger would be more dangerous than taking on some stupid ass t-rex, it would basically be an ostrich with teeth

also

us bringing extinct species back is completely natural, because humans are natural beings, therefore anything we create is natural. i went over this on here before im pretty sure.

but we humans put ourselves on pedestals because i can get stoned make a ham and egg sandwich and get on the internet. but all of it is natural.

let nature take its course

[Witty]

YO

dinosaurs couldnt live today even if we brought one back, if they didnt die out from an asteroid, ALLEGEDLY, they would have shrunk along with the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere. the reason shit was so big is because the world had like 30x the oxygen

so basically what im getting at is killing a tiger would be more dangerous than taking on some stupid ass t-rex, it would basically be an ostrich with teeth

also

us bringing extinct species back is completely natural, because humans are natural beings, therefore anything we create is natural. i went over this on here before im pretty sure.

but we humans put ourselves on pedestals because i can get stoned make a ham and egg sandwich and get on the internet. but all of it is natural.

let nature take its course

This is what I'm saying, people seem to separate Humans from Nature...which is dumb, we are part of nature, everything is nature. We do things like this because it is in our nature, I don't even understand when people say something is against nature...I don't know what that means. Nature just happens, it doesn't have morals, it just is.

[Frank Metts]

To your first point, fair enough.

To your second point, that's why I said about the practical uses for doing this, I don't think it would be a good idea to actually reintroduce them to the world, but just bring one back so I can look at it and say 'Hey, cool'

Just watch Jurassic park in 3d

[SiK]

. the reason shit was so big is because the world had like 30x the oxygen

so basically what im getting at is killing a tiger would be more dangerous than taking on some stupid ass t-rex, it would basically be an ostrich with teeth


I need proof of this


You cant put the word 'Like' in front of a 'fact' and expect it to be accepted

[Frank Metts]

So uhoh

Why are humans getting bigger at rapid paces with less oxygen ??

They adapt

A dinosaur would be as big as it needed to be to maintain it's spot on the food chain,

Your theory holds weight until you look at nature around you and realize and some things become extinct others tend to grow ... Ants get bigger, bees get bigger and he slowly move up the food chain yet maintain their purpose in the cycle of life

It's the way it's always worked and will continue To work

[uh-oh]

So uhoh

Why are humans getting bigger at rapid paces with less oxygen ??

They adapt

A dinosaur would be as big as it needed to be to maintain it's spot on the food chain,

Your theory holds weight until you look at nature around you and realize and some things become extinct others tend to grow ... Ants get bigger, bees get bigger and he slowly move up the food chain yet maintain their purpose in the cycle of life

It's the way it's always worked and will continue To work

ants and bees have gotten smaller

humans get bigger through breeding, and plenty. i can eat anything i want. in ancient times you ate whatever you could get, which was largely grain based and veggie based

people who consumed lots of proteins were huge. the barbarians from the north, basically the ancestors of vikings and germans were giants compared to romans who ate fish figs, olives and egyptian grain. meanwhile they lived in dense forests and ate wild pigs, deers, fish, basically all protein

it has alot to do with everything

but we are mammals

reptiles need space, and oxygen. its the same principle as if you get an iguana, he only grows to the size of the cage. in the wild iguanas get giant, but they still aren't big enough for a human to not kill it with its bare hands

the closest we get are reptiles that dont depend on oxygen as much/can process it better, aka alligators and crocodiles, but even they are just a shadow of there former greatness

even the fish in the sea are smaller. there were dragonflies as big as eagles

but word a humans growth is miniscule in comparison to the size differential of dinosaurs and modern reptiles


but word this isnt MY theory, its the scientific consensus lol

[uh-oh]

also bigger doesnt mean better

there were DIREWOLVES

who died out because grey wolves were faster and killed more shit. direwolves were too big and retarded to compete with modern wolves for the same game, and they required more of it as fuel for there giant bodies

look at the giant bear, think it was a short snout bear or some shit. but it isnt around anymore for the same reason, there wasnt enough food to support it, and it was competing with its smaller cousins, grizzlies, black bears etc.

dinosaurs wouldve went the same route

except they have the benefit of shrinking/growing to what there enviornment supports alot more than a mammal does

[Frank Metts]

I didn't say bigger meant better

But humans getting bigger is also from adaption to survive not just food, in theory if they are what they could just to survive then humans would of consistently became smaller to adapt to continue existence ... On the early 1900s their weren't smorgasbords of food to eat yet humans still have gotten larger at very fast rates

I know every dinosaur wouldn't make it because by the end of their run they were getting smaller, quicker and smarter as they needed to to try and survive

How can you say ants and bees are getting smaller when it can't be proven, it was an observation but science really dont want to touch it but I have theory's ...but what has been proven is that beetles are evolving to get more oxygen into their body for larger frame


It's no doubt that back then their were insects the size of minivans and most want to point to oxygen as the reasoning and it's probably the easiest answer to come up with

But its only theory, no one can say for sure that's the beauty of life, it has so many unanswered questions that one can live with their own beliefs

[Rawn MD]

This is the end of man... Man becomes to smart and too cocky and ends up creating something that will help spread disease and kill humans in mass without regret


Their dead for a reason, evolution happened for a reason


Never wake the dead

Next they will he reproducing loved ones whom are empty and soulless inside

Frank is 100

Have u not seen pet cemetery?!?!?!

[Rawn MD]

uh-oh just bc it is natural does not make it good

Box jelly fish exists in nature

Doesnt meen u should put one in ur bath tub n bathe

There r parameters of nature, n then there is human intervention

Once something is moved from its original environment it is no longer how nature intended but how HUMAN NATURE did.

There is a large diff between the two.

[Masaii]

Not sure if anyone actually read the link, obv not, but it clearly says they will only bring back an animal if it is beneficial and not dangerous.

[Masaii]

After reading some posts itt, i am certain uh oh is a retarted troll.

[uh-oh]

explain

im pretty on point yo, like usual.

frank talking about people not eating as well in the early 1900's, well thats cool and does nothing to disprove my point considering when you google "average human height by century" (go ahead and do it) you will see that humans have grown on average 4 inches taller then they were 100 years ago

but word i'm wrong.

its not scientific consensus that dinosaurs and other animals weren't big because of the extra oxygen that was all over the earth.

your right masaii

[Sicc]

On R B, someone posted about an dino egg hatch.

[uh-oh]

i just googled to see if i was making a memory up, and seen that a relatively new study shows lower oxygen levels

which throws a wrench into what i was saying, but i guess its being criticised too

i just remember being high years ago watching a documentary on dinosaurs and elevated oxygen levels leading to their giganticness. so i regurgitate it as fact and stand BY IT

OXYGEN YO

FOOD

WATER

FUELS OF LIFE. MORE FUEL=BIGGER FIRE

[Rawn MD]

masaii

the real problem to the point is this.

ne time u introduce an animal to a new environment it out competes the species that already exist bc there are no natural predictor's to that new animal, or simply dies off bc it cant sustain itself.

does not have to be extinct to see this.

ie florida's everglades...recently snakes from asia/africa that were pets have been unleashed in the everglades. Now with the everglades being similar to their original environments the snakes are able to survive. Having no natural predators bc it is not their natural environment the snakes are able to strive. Now at the rate of reproduction, and lack of predation, the snakes are out competing animals that are native to the everglades, throwing off the entire ecosystem.

just bc something appears not to be a hazard on its own, does not negate possible detrimental implications that its reintroduction will have on everything else.

there is a reason why natural selection occurs.

[Masaii]

Can you guys just read the link please. It explains all this. It shows you what animals they want to, and can bring back. Most are birds.

Just read the damn link.

[Sick]

Nah

[Frank Metts]

After reading some posts itt, i am certain uh oh is a retarted troll.

Man uh-oh is far from retarded ... He's the guy in the corner smoking a Marlboro red down to the filter looking semi homeless but kicking straight knowledge to anyone who will listen

He just gets fixated on a point and even if he's wrong he's right lol

[Sick]

Man uh-oh is far from retarded ... He's the guy in the corner smoking a Marlboro red down to the filter looking semi homeless but kicking straight knowledge to anyone who will listen

He just gets fixated on a point and even if he's wrong he's right lol

Judging by his recent argument that planes are more dangerous than cars and constant babbling about ancient nonsense


No hes not the Will Hunting your making him out to be


He is smart tho and has some depth but hes too much small talk

[Zen]

Uh oh's arguments are the shit. Mainly because I'm a stoner and I can relate.

[Frank Metts]

Will hunting ... Uh oh looks nothing like Matt Damon

[Frank Metts]

Uh oh is that dude who failed every aspect of high school yet can argue with James carville