Harvard Science just took a deuce on your religion

[Swerve]

http://gizmodo.com/astronomers-discover-first-direct-proof-of-the-big-bang-1545525927?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_faceboo k&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Cool stuff.

[veritas]

So where did the big bang come from?

[Swerve]

Doesn't disclaim God.

Disclaims creation theory.

[veritas]

No it doesnt.

[Frank Metts]

To bible thumpers this does indirectly disprove the theory that god create all that was see in 7 days

[PancakeBrah]

lol this needed proving still?

brb harvard being dumb af wasting money

"earth is round, says new harvard study"

[oats]

I was reading about this yesterday, glad someone posted it. Definitely an exciting find, and one of the more interesting corners of astrophysics (early universe theories). It's fascinating to me because on earth, things erode, decay, and altogether disappear due to atmospheric interferences, but in space there are still possibilities to discover direct remnants from the beginning of the universe. Even when they're as small as gravitational waves.

These small gravitational variances, by the way, are the reason why any life is able to exist. Without them, all matter would be uniformly distributed over the expanse of space, making it impossible for any matter to congregate close enough to a star to sustainably exist. In terms of pure science (not considering religious implications, that is), it's a really exciting discovery if it continues to check out, which all sources seem to suggest it will.

[veritas]

You all err.

There was a gap of indeterminate time in between genesis 1:1 amd 1:2.

Big bamg amd genesis do not contradict. There was a world on earth before the garden of eden.

Does anyone of you care? Or is your mind made up?

[oats]

Veritas, is your mind made up?

[Destroyer]

veritas, you're dumb as fuck if you can't see that Christianity is a straight manufactured religion to keep the weak in line

that said, this does nothing to disprove god
the infinite expansion that occurred in virtually no time at all does little to disprove it, and almost, does more to prove gods existence than the opposite.

[Neighbor]

"earth is round, says new harvard study"

*spherical

[ill nik-A]

u guys not believing in God proves why society is the way it is

Listen to me my children

Harvard is the devil

[Hush]

Lol at believing in god


Fuck him and u u bald faggot

[PancakeBrah]

*spherical

No I meant round.

Thanks for trying to help, though, Neighbor.

[Inno]

veritas, you're dumb as fuck if you can't see that Christianity is a straight manufactured religion to keep the weak in line

that said, this does nothing to disprove god
the infinite expansion that occurred in virtually no time at all does little to disprove it, and almost, does more to prove gods existence than the opposite.


Only sane post in here. Was thinking the same thing.

[veritas]

Jesus is God.

[Rawn MD]

knuck killed jesus tho

[NYCSPITZ]

You all err.

There was a gap of indeterminate time in between genesis 1:1 amd 1:2.

Big bamg amd genesis do not contradict. There was a world on earth before the garden of eden.

Does anyone of you care? Or is your mind made up?

wow

I recently started avoiding conflict of any kind...

but you are an ignorant dumb sheep faggot. Stop reading period unless it's hemingway my nigga

[NYCSPITZ]

veritas, you're dumb as fuck if you can't see that Christianity is a straight manufactured religion to keep the weak in line

that said, this does nothing to disprove god
the infinite expansion that occurred in virtually no time at all does little to disprove it, and almost, does more to prove gods existence than the opposite.

thank u

[NYCSPITZ]

Lol at believing in god


Fuck him and u u bald faggot

thank u

[NYCSPITZ]

Veritas, is your mind made up?

thank u

[NYCSPITZ]

Doesn't disclaim God.

Disclaims creation theory.

thank u

[NYCSPITZ]

To bible thumpers this does indirectly disprove the theory that god create all that was see in 7 days

thank u

[NYCSPITZ]

lol this needed proving still?

brb harvard being dumb af wasting money

"earth is round, says new harvard study"

thanks

[NYCSPITZ]

I was reading about this yesterday, glad someone posted it. Definitely an exciting find, and one of the more interesting corners of astrophysics (early universe theories). It's fascinating to me because on earth, things erode, decay, and altogether disappear due to atmospheric interferences, but in space there are still possibilities to discover direct remnants from the beginning of the universe. Even when they're as small as gravitational waves.

These small gravitational variances, by the way, are the reason why any life is able to exist. Without them, all matter would be uniformly distributed over the expanse of space, making it impossible for any matter to congregate close enough to a star to sustainably exist. In terms of pure science (not considering religious implications, that is), it's a really exciting discovery if it continues to check out, which all sources seem to suggest it will.

TYVM

[NYCSPITZ]

u guys not believing in God proves why society is the way it is

Listen to me my children

Harvard is the devil

lmfao thank u

[NYCSPITZ]

Only sane post in here. Was thinking the same thing.

me too thank u

Veritas kill yourself you ignorant faggot

[veritas]

Lol at believing in god


Fuck him and u u bald faggot

You believe in a god and I can prove it...I can even tell u its name.

[veritas]

me too thank u

Veritas kill yourself you ignorant faggot

You are the ignorant one....and willfully so.

[NYCSPITZ]

You are from the south willfully

[NYCSPITZ]

the devil has u my nigga

[veritas]

he tried to get me to sell him my soul a few months back, I wouldn't.

[uh-oh]

the thing humans struggle with the most, is the man made idea of a thing called "TIME"

when in reality it doesnt exist. everything is happening right now. everything you ever did is happening right this instant. so is everything you will ever do.

there is no time. its just something human brains perceiver to explain everything not happening at once

i try to tell people but they dont get it

wer'e just the fires of the all

[oats]

This thread took a sharp turn to stupid

[Sicc]

In the name of the,

Father

Son

& Holy spirit.

May the lord be with you all.

/blessed

[Destroyer]

oh Christ

[namix]

"Hi, my name is God, but some of you might know me as the big bang"

In the end we'll probably just see that science and faith were both looking at and describing the same thing but calling them different names.

Seek and ye shall find --- perception is reality... read more about those universal truths in the Bible if you're religious, or in the "Uncertainty Principle" if you favor science.

At some point, something served as an "initial impetus" --- and we’re too busy dissecting the differences to see the similarities.

Whether it was the Big Bang, God, or both:

-- it was all that was, is and could be --- the beginning and end, literally the Alpha & Omega.
-- Whatever created creation co-created the idea of a Creator.
-- From the Alpha & Omega.... BANG, let there be light.
-- from all that was, is, and could be --- it expanded, separated, and allowed matter to individuate -- creation through division..
-- and thus, we were literally created in it's image...


...and now we create in our image; our cells replicate themselves in their image, we reproduce and pass on genetics in our image, we invent and advance technology in our image.

Then we use our creations to support or contend the existence of God or the big bang.... and coming full circle, we simultaneously want to be a part of something bigger than ourselves yet contradictorily want to be the end all be all… s’how we were created, Alpha & omega... from need God to be God and everything in between.

[namix]

In the beginning:
a man of faith looked up, a man of science looked down; they were far too busy debating the truths they found, but would have seen the same thing in a different way had they looked around.

[Fig]

Lol at shits on religion

I have all the things to say...

rationalizing your faith away

[namix]

the thing humans struggle with the most, is the man made idea of a thing called "TIME"

when in reality it doesnt exist. everything is happening right now. everything you ever did is happening right this instant. so is everything you will ever do.

there is no time. its just something human brains perceiver to explain everything not happening at once

i try to tell people but they dont get it

wer'e just the fires of the all

i hear you... i can see why saying it like that would overwhelm some people --- but you can definitely support the idea that time is "perceived"...since time is literally 'relative', no different than the distance between two objects (hence space being relative, and time and space being intertwined)

time exists in the minds of those perceiving it, but word, it is definitely a subjective measure of the "space" between two points.

in terms of it all happening at once... the best way i try to explain your point is through a dreams... it feels like you are experiencing time 'relatively' normally until you actually look back on it, and there's no reason we won't look back on our lives like a dream...

In a world of polarity, time can only exist with timelessness.. so i do think what you said makes sense, for what its worth lol.

[Rust Cohle]

the thing humans struggle with the most, is the man made idea of a thing called "TIME"

when in reality it doesnt exist. everything is happening right now. everything you ever did is happening right this instant. so is everything you will ever do.

there is no time. its just something human brains perceiver to explain everything not happening at once

i try to tell people but they dont get it

wer'e just the fires of the all

I tried tellin' these niggas but they aint wanna hear it.

[big baby]

so that means big baby had sex with own big baby mOM???????? -____________-

NOT AGAIN

[PancakeBrah]

This thread took a sharp turn to stupid

lol'd

[Inno]

In the beginning:
a man of faith looked up, a man of science looked down; they were far too busy debating the truths they found, but would have seen the same thing in a different way had they looked around.

did you make this up...or this a quote from some one?

either way profound stuff right here.

[namix]

did you make this up...or this a quote from some one?

either way profound stuff right here.

yea i just made that up for this post brudda :)

its just troof though for real, took me a long time before i saw both sides

[Split]

lmao so hard @ time doesn't exist

[namix]

time is relative, just like space.

measures the distance between two points based on our subjective perception.

a "day" is long or short depending on your relative perspective...

saying 'time does not exist' is a bit bold for most people to digest, but it is subjective for sure -- a week to live is different for a 90 yr old than for a 10 yr old....

hard to say it doesn't exist, because so many people are trapped by it.

timelessness exists too.

[Split]

yeah! you could even exist in total timelessness every day for the rest of your life.

[Ghost1]

So Harvard science spent their extremely valuable time, money & resources to basically tell religious believers.....na na nabooboo stick ur head in doodoo

Thanks Harvard faggots

Don't worry about cancer

It's not really killing that many people

[Neighbor]

The "H" is silent

[...the Nagger]

I been made a thread discussing how time doesn't exist and u all said I was crazy

I realized this on my own then looked up shit and google and found theories which further explain what I cannot put into words

Ppl still ain't here me

Fuck y'all

Oh yea I read pg 2 only and explain to me how jesus being married (which I'm assuming this thread is about since I read an article on bx stating that they claim the have scriptures which are authenticated and speak upon jesus' wife) means that he doesn't exist or that religion is wrong somehow?

Cuz for one, if he has a marriage record wouldn't that further prove his existence

And also, if the bible encourages marriage and jesus was a human who lived a perfect life then why wouldn't he be married?

I will say that there are several pastors who believe jesus never married since he was perfect

Which I understand, but I also always believed he was married just for the sim?ple fact that he was living a "perfect" life that man was to follow. If man followed the path of not marrying where would man be after said generation?

It always made perfect sense for jesus to be married

[Split]

Time exists.

[veritas]

Time exists.

only in time it does.

[Split]

Time is unidirectional.

[PancakeBrah]

Ppl still ain't here me

[uh-oh]

time doesnt exist, eddie is right, i don't remember his thread but i've been preaching it for years after i stole it from the ramblings of an insane character from a fantasy book.

[Split]

brb checking my opinion again


Bad news bro


it says I'm right and also that uh-oh is a fuckhead

[veritas]

brb checking my opinion again


Bad news bro


it says I'm right and also that uh-oh is a fuckhead

Let me tell you something, which needs to be said, and of which you need to hearken:

You are a novice. You have been rolling around with the psuedo-intellectual gig for a minute now, but the truth is that you lack experience in life. You are still in the classroom both metaphorically, and literally. There is no combat against these words, just heed them and learn. You are all theory. You are not trully an intellect....yet. At this rate, you will never be unfortunatly. You have dove off the high dive into the pancakebrah pool of intellectual hipsterism...which will culminate in you one day saying: "We are nihilists Lebowski, we believe in nothing". I advise that you stop acting like a veteran when you are still a novice...a rookie really.

you know nothing of the universe, the self's depths, principles, manliness, or virtue.

Good day kid.

[Witty]

HEARKEN.

[THE REAL CAPTAIN OBVIOUS]

Let me tell you something, which needs to be said, and of which you need to hearken:

You are a novice. You have been rolling around with the psuedo-intellectual gig for a minute now, but the truth is that you lack experience in life. You are still in the classroom both metaphorically, and literally. There is no combat against these words, just heed them and learn. You are all theory. You are not trully an intellect....yet. At this rate, you will never be unfortunatly. You have dove off the high dive into the pancakebrah pool of intellectual hipsterism...which will culminate in you one day saying: "We are nihilists Lebowski, we believe in nothing". I advise that you stop acting like a veteran when you are still a novice...a rookie really.

you know nothing of the universe, the self's depths, principles, manliness, or virtue.

Good day kid.

.................................................. .......................

[Split]

I'm more of an absurdist. I skim experiences, ideas, theories, knowledge off of the surface of scholasticism until I begin to understand it, then I stop. It's really all I have time for. It's really all anyone has time for. I only seek to truly understand the things I want to understand, of which the first few layers are not enough.

[PancakeBrah]

Well that was just mean Veritas

[veritas]

I'm more of an absurdist. I skim experiences, ideas, theories, knowledge off of the surface of scholasticism until I begin to understand it, then I stop. It's really all I have time for. It's really all anyone has time for. I only seek to truly understand the things I want to understand, of which the first few layers are not enough.

shine on you crazy diamond.

[veritas]

Well that was just mean Veritas


ooooh girl u supa sassy today!

[namix]

So Harvard science spent their extremely valuable time, money & resources to basically tell religious believers.....na na nabooboo stick ur head in doodoo

Thanks Harvard faggots

Don't worry about cancer

It's not really killing that many people

haha

[namix]

only in time it does.

^^^ Veritas nailed it.




Taking the stance of "time exist" or "doesn't exist" is just as absurd as both sides of the extreme :)

WE EXIST IN A WORLD OF POLARITY YO.... what the fuck is light, without dark,..... or high without low...

All things we experience as "a something" also have their opposite.


So whether or not you think time exists... there is no right or wrong... it always just 'was' :)

[namix]

You can exist in this world and escape time, however.

and we do it on a nightly basis in our dreams. or in meditation. or in moments where "the game seemed to slow down".

just to defend the lesser stood-by stance

[Split]

http://replygif.net/i/1474.gif

You are confusing the relativity of perception with the relativity of measurable quantities.


time will exist if I believe it doesnt. time will exist if i believe it does. Two different shades of truth and established harmony might give a scientist and a theologist the same sense of self-satisfied complacence but that doesn't mean either of them they have found TRUTH let alone the same truth. The universe doesn't exist independent of us, just independent of our perception of the universe. Time would STILL exist if life never existed because the definition of time is not directly tied into people observing time. It is tied to experimental observations that people were able to record as a result of them being alive.


Everything is experimental. That is the bridge between your mind and the world.

You cannot escape time. You can forget about it.

[namix]

http://replygif.net/i/1474.gif

You are confusing the relativity of perception with the relativity of measurable quantities.


time will exist if I believe it doesnt. time will exist if i believe it does. Two different shades of truth and established harmony might give a scientist and a theologist the same sense of self-satisfied complacence but that doesn't mean either of them they have found TRUTH let alone the same truth. The universe doesn't exist independent of us, just independent of our perception of the universe. Time would STILL exist if life never existed because the definition of time is not directly tied into people observing time. It is tied to experimental observations that people were able to record as a result of them being alive.


Everything is experimental. That is the bridge between your mind and the world.

You cannot escape time. You can forget about it.


I can only imagine you subscribe to the "big bang theory", correct?

If not - what do you subscribe to?

if so -- did time exist before the big bang first occurred?

[Split]

A variation of the Big Bang Theory, yeah. Only because of how many different facets of the universe are mathematically consistent within the theory// correlate with observational data in the past and the future.

We don't know the original zeroth state of the universe. The Big Bang Theory as it stands says it began as a singularity, but most of the modern theories use quantum mechanics that are not properly integrated into the BBT to elaborate on the beginnings of the universe



The one that I believe explains the origins of the universe best is the Bubble Universe theory



We know that before the Big Bang (according to the theory) there was homogeneity. Singularity as a point mass, or singularity as nothingness. In the Bubble Universe Theory, when enough of this homogeneity is present (i.e. a true vacuum of all but quantum matter) the presence of those quantum particles within this vacuum determines whether or not this separated region can give rise to a universe AND what the physical laws of this universe are. Further explained by string theory.

But the cool thing is, it allows for multiple universes within the same framework of a multiverse. And it gives a reasonable explanation for how nothing arises from something.
It is very fractal. If you're interested, read Michio Kaku.




CLIFFS.


Time exists where matter exists in spacetime. Time is a function of existence. If nothing exists there is no time.

[PancakeBrah]

ooooh girl u supa sassy today!

You mistake my intent.

[Swerve]

What a great thread.

Whoever made this thread must be awesome and handsome.

Science ho, chums!

[maths debate]

If nothing exists there is no time.

timeless

[timeless]

Look no furthe r

[namix]

Time exists where matter exists in spacetime.


^word

so where space is not a constraint, neither is time

do you believe that existence in the beta state is superior than the other 3 or 4 frequencies?

we only perceive time in one frequency... the rest, space and time don't matter.