FOLLOWING PPL GET BETTER AT VOTING ON TEXT

[Split]

IamBenT
Buddha (mostly there, break shit down more)
Cereal_Killa (99% there you know whats up but also put too much value on flow/ rhythym)
Flo Real u just lazy son



Aero the apex slay goat slay text pex



with the exception of aero who simply doesnt have good voting in his genes, just break down every bar for a few weeks. also, sign into the NBL now if ur not already

look more in depth at verse until you become a good enough battler/ get a good voter rep to just do quotes vs. quotes or a lazy breakdown like everyone else. your standard should be a Sharp Nine vote.

sidenote- dont look at flow, look at wording.. try to appreciate wordplay/ flips too, not just personals

we good, every1?

good

go do big things

[Geno]

Good speech. Encore

[~RustyGunZ~]

i approve this message

[Allen Knight]

i approve that all the ppl u named are not allowed to vote on my battles

[ill nik-A]

Smh

[Ghost1]

My hero<33

[Split]

lmao

[Utmost]

lol. what was the poor vote that brought about this?

[TYSON]

TYSON...nigga u need to start voting mothafucka

[Cereal_Killa]

Ahh I've only voted on two text battles here u schumck..

N flow, rythmn comes into play..

Look at the lyrics off bizzy bone, busta, tech 9, twista..

They are always tight, extremely tight..

U have to have certain sucture to make it flow..

So wen we say flow or rhythm it's to do with each lines structure..

We don't just say structure cause most good writers don't stick to the same structure every line..

Look it b.i.g classed one of greatest at flow, his short lines and internals did that.. Ofcourse his presence was a massive part but without the line structure there wld be no flow..

Pun omg another cat with a mammoth flow.. Look at his lyrics..

Nas n aesop rock are two prime examples where every track of there's can b spat fast or slow.. N both have done so..

One mic
The substance

But these two in the general pop culture off wannabe hip hop artist consider them to have horrid flow cause their lyrics are too important for ppl to miss them if they spit them how they're intended..

U dig..

Anywhoot u children run along, hide in a hole til tomo wen u come at us with another case of retardation..

I can do this all day, erry day pimpin..

[~RustyGunZ~]

Cereal_Killa battling is not the same lmao

the sooner u realize that, the better

[Sharp]

im finna recycle that flyting wikipedia page for the mazillionth time

[Ghost1]

U just compared making dope tracks to writing winning text battles..........wrong

[~RustyGunZ~]

DEAD@Flyting wiki

this isn't real... right?

[Split]

Ahh I've only voted on two text battles here u schumck..

N flow, rythmn comes into play..

Look at the lyrics off bizzy bone, busta, tech 9, twista..

They are always tight, extremely tight..

U have to have certain sucture to make it flow..

So wen we say flow or rhythm it's to do with each lines structure..

We don't just say structure cause most good writers don't stick to the same structure every line..

Look it b.i.g classed one of greatest at flow, his short lines and internals did that.. Ofcourse his presence was a massive part but without the line structure there wld be no flow..

Pun omg another cat with a mammoth flow.. Look at his lyrics..

Nas n aesop rock are two prime examples where every track of there's can b spat fast or slow.. N both have done so..

One mic
The substance

But these two in the general pop culture off wannabe hip hop artist consider them to have horrid flow cause their lyrics are too important for ppl to miss them if they spit them how they're intended..

U dig..

Anywhoot u children run along, hide in a hole til tomo wen u come at us with another case of retardation..

I can do this all day, erry day pimpin..
nah man... text battles, at least shortbar, can barely be considered rap... like battle rap and normal rap shouldnt even been put against one another

I feel you about lyricism, agree with you on those rappers mostly, but it's like completely backseat'd in text battles. at least here.

two sides of a coin

[Sharp]

DEAD@Flyting wiki

this isn't real... right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyting

[Fig]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyting

dead

[TYSON]

Man I learn something new everyday. Fucking flyting

[Split]

yo i found a book on text battle theory
http://www.jstor.org/stable/1772505?seq=7

[Sharp]

god damn this is dry

but at least im using jstor for the first time since getting to college lol

[~RustyGunZ~]

it is probably written by Richard Corey

[Cereal_Killa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-z2hxXxKg

who do you think has the better flow..

and wen calicoe has good flow, listen to his lyrics.. carefully
..

To me you wee tackers get the gist of battling, but dont understand writing or lyrics how they play the most important part in hip hop.. but we cool..

its all learning..

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/c0.215.851.315/p851x315/616675_518849441465838_1838932628_o.jpg

[Sharp]

The thing is text battling is more like joke telling, wordplay and insults than it is rapping. Rap battles are something else entirely that are in and of themselves entire productions and performances.

What we put out is just some words. shit has to be able to stand alone to do damage without all the theatrics behind it.

[TYSON]

The thing is text battling is more like joke telling, wordplay and insults than it is rapping. Rap battles are something else entirely that are in and of themselves entire productions and performances.

What we put out is just some words. shit has to be able to stand alone to do damage without all the theatrics behind it.

Pretty much

[Cereal_Killa]

So by using more advanced writing techniques in text battling or battling in general.. Is more of a handicap on ur self and shouldn't be commented on let alone praised..

Yes - yes..

[Sharp]

There's a placed for technical writing, its more swag/flow battles. If you can integrate it into a regular battle good on you but at the end of the day its more about being able to deliver a clever hit through a concept.

[Split]

So by using more advanced writing techniques in text battling or battling in general.. Is more of a handicap on ur self and shouldn't be commented on let alone praised..

Yes - yes..

some people pull it off. GOW and Orc both have very smooth wording with well-placed inner rhymes and consonance

the thing is, if you're insulting someone saying it pretty doesn't help if it doesn't CONNECT. clever/ witty shit's always gonna have that upper edge, when the idea is to beat ur opponent into the ground with words

[Cereal_Killa]

I get this.. But ahh u r doing text battles not audio battles so way u write ur lines does matter..

Otherwise you are just writing insults with an end rhyme.. N to me u gotta b pretty fucken funny to have a stretched out line with one rhyming syllable at the end..

But that is me, n y'all guys do wat u do..

[Cereal_Killa]

Wats funny bout all this, is I'm a content man.. Always, so this is like WOAH.. Flow n rhythm are only a small part to me but.. It is in there n I WILL comment on it..

U damn bafoon..

[Sharp]

as a general rule i make sure my end rhyme is at least 2-3 syllables, and you can always do inner shit if you like

but at the end of the day if you're all flash and no substance that's a lot less effective than funny concepts told in a joke format

[PancakeBrah]

Otherwise you are just writing insults with an end rhyme...


You've got it!

Now shut the fuck up with everything else you type.

[Cereal_Killa]

https://soundcloud.com/jonny-knows-candy/04-joint-custody-puss-say

oh btw.. ur sig dope ;0

[StarFaggot]

My votes are just fine.

[Cereal_Killa]

i vote - AERO..

[Flow]

Split no offence chap but I do a breakdown on 70 percent of battles here whether I'm in the league that week or not. This week my feed was shit an I told everyone it was, an I told em I'd get em back with more detail next time but rl issues.

Don't be coming in here for the first week in god knows how long an tellin me im lazy. Always get to people with a break down most the time, send mails to anyone who leaves me with decent feed in preciation an helped out on the mag during the move here cus I knew knuck was struggling... So don't think I meet the lazy criteria

[Obey]

On behalf of lurkers I'd be more worried about everything else

at least niggaz iz still votin

[Flow]

On behalf of lurkers I'd be more worried about everything else

at least niggaz iz still votin

When did you return?

[Split]

Split no offence chap but I do a breakdown on 70 percent of battles here whether I'm in the league that week or not. This week my feed was shit an I told everyone it was, an I told em I'd get em back with more detail next time but rl issues.

Don't be coming in here for the first week in god knows how long an tellin me im lazy. Always get to people with a break down most the time, send mails to anyone who leaves me with decent feed in preciation an helped out on the mag during the move here cus I knew knuck was struggling... So don't think I meet the lazy criteria

Really just threw you in tbh

[Flow]

Really just threw you in tbh

Lol fair enough

[IamBenT]

man gtfoh with that flyting shit.

man CK been voting on battles longer than half of yall knew what a battle board was.

Same goes for me tbh, good lyrics is good lyrics. if your shit sounds wack don't get mad at me for it.

Watch some damn KOTD battles, even that new shit can still be dropped to a beat if needed.

"This cat blah blah blah multie.... cuz his multi blah blah bblah punchline multi"

Watch most battles, they use variation on this scheme. Im not expecting any of yall to use that specifically but listen to the shit, they use multis and flow. its not just wack multi - long ass bar of text then wack multi trying to be a punchline.

plus if your whole damn verse is inside jokes i.e. "personals" that's wack. you don't who the fuck is reading the battle so your shit should have a modicum of dopeness to it regardless. a good personal here and there will win you the battle, good on you when used right of course, but not the whole damn verse.

any battle verses I vote on here im doing yall a favor. if the shit don't flow, learn how to write.

Beyond was one of the greatest text heads around, his shit flowed. Alvin Karpis too.

I could go even further back to RM days, cats like Revanon and Jowelz ripped the shit out of people with dope punchlines and shit that FLOWED.

Flyting is just an excuse for poor lyricism.

[Split]

IamBenT yo dude I believe you.. I think youre a thoughtful voter and CK too, just show your thoughts a little more b/c people wanna see your feed

wasnt supposed to be about what type of battling we support, this thread was to get ppl to show their decision makin process in votes

like

a pretty good battle here.

Obama - Kinda funny reading gun lines from someone as straight laced as the president. Pretty gangsta as well. Loved that

Bin Laden - i like the flow in this plus you had some funny one liners, the cousins line was lol

Vote-Bin Laden was a little more interesting of a read for me

yo you pick a winner but you dont really show why. you coulda made your vote for Obama w/out changing anything at all


(I'm the Bomb cuz I snort in the Whitehouse & party w/ locals
You're the Bomb too. Strapped up with over 5kilo's of Kamikaze explosives)
I got my Swat Teamz onya. This shit will get buck quick
The beams got you 'Covered Head to Toe' like those uptight Bitches you fuck with

The bomb was corny as fuck, only quoted it cause this wasn't too high standards battle. Jihad/G had was a good idea but executed poorly



(SO let me give ya this work. N while we're at it a fashion lesson
Only thing Obama's 'Changed' is unemployment rates in bad directions.)
Barack is mad, but test us. You'll see your cities leveled, then ur runnin.
He don't have to be so hostile. You have the same name as like 7 of my cousins.
(We drop atomic shit. Abombination that's rainin blows that stain sand.
Know the only people screamin Obama help is when these planes ovr the mainland.)


wtf @ fashion lesson lol. Cousins was lolz. Obama name flip was basic but cool

Okay battle, thought al quieda hit harder, had more quoteables.

V/Al

Sharp really couldnt a changed his vote, you see exactly what hes looking at

to be honest, I dont give half a fuck what you put in your vote so long as you explain it/ give some advice on why one person won over the other, tell them what they coulda done to have won the battle in YOUR eyes, whatever that includes. even if its just pointing out which bars hit and which didnt


1

[Ghost1]

U said alvin karpis had flow. Ur entire post is null and void

[Orc]

sharp nines vote was also obviously wrong

[IamBenT]

IamBenT yo dude I believe you.. I think youre a thoughtful voter and CK too, just show your thoughts a little more b/c people wanna see your feed

wasnt supposed to be about what type of battling we support, this thread was to get ppl to show their decision makin process in votes

like


yo you pick a winner but you dont really show why. you coulda made your vote for Obama w/out changing anything at all



Sharp really couldnt a changed his vote, you see exactly what hes looking at

to be honest, I dont give half a fuck what you put in your vote so long as you explain it/ give some advice on why one person won over the other, tell them what they coulda done to have won the battle in YOUR eyes, whatever that includes. even if its just pointing out which bars hit and which didnt


1

I feel you on that. im really just enjoying the whole Quick and The Dead, this week looks like it will be tougher to judge so Imma put more into those votes.

[Split]

I feel you on that. im really just enjoying the whole Quick and The Dead, this week looks like it will be tougher to judge so Imma put more into those votes.

im more pumped for the AOWL matches this week tbh. dope rivalries atm

[Allen Knight]

Lolll at ppl talking about flow in a txt battle smh

[Cereal_Killa]

IamBenT loves u cutie ;)
Split if u check our votes for the story league they are a min paragraph long.. Up to half a page.. Cause there are more elements to compliment on..

We don't blast a cat for their faults, we encourage wats good so they do more of it..

After a long time voting you learn that it's a much better method of help, rather than rip someone apart and call it "constructive criticism"

On top of that, in the alias battle did u peep all sharp nines votes..

Pretty much every vote was one line from everyone, except the dudes u mentioned..

N the only dif is we only said positive things.. Instead of saying "this is less shit, so it wins"

[Cereal_Killa]

And wen u have ignorant cats like Bags and Allen why wld we want to break it down prop, wen they aren't rdy to learn..

All that will happen is this exact same thread but we wld have wasted MORE of our time..

Yah dig..

[Split]

IamBenT loves u cutie ;)
Split if u check our votes for the story league they are a min paragraph long.. Up to half a page.. Cause there are more elements to compliment on..

We don't blast a cat for their faults, we encourage wats good so they do more of it..

After a long time voting you learn that it's a much better method of help, rather than rip someone apart and call it "constructive criticism"

On top of that, in the alias battle did u peep all sharp nines votes.. Pretty much every vote was one line except the dudes u mentioned..

N the only dif is we only said positive things.. Instead of saying "this is less shit, so it wins"
smh

idk why this is an argument mayne... I made this thread because people are bitching about vote quality, notably towards the people mentioned. Now I am telling you why: it is because you do not pick a clear winner.

it may or may not because your text-battle voting method is one big analytical fallacy.. it might be because you believe constructive criticism implies negative reinforcement.. I'm not sure.

If you want your text-battle votes counted, please do one of the following:
1) quotes vs. quotes
2) construct some sort of logical argument that compares the verses on concrete evidence. and by logical, I'm not taking a shot at you, I'm saying:
- summarize the verses according to some premises/ conditions
- use some method to determine which verse is the winner based on these premises
- write a brief conclusion, showing which writer you picked
3) bar by bar breakdown

compliment niggas all day. pass attaboys round the campfire til the sun comes up. If youre not gonna look at this like a competition, and grade it like a 7th grade art project instead, keep it to PMs

[~RustyGunZ~]

lmao split going iin

[Cereal_Killa]

smh

idk why this is an argument mayne... I made this thread because people are bitching about vote quality, notably towards the people mentioned. Now I am telling you why: it is because you do not pick a clear winner.

it may or may not because your text-battle voting method is one big analytical fallacy.. it might be because you believe constructive criticism implies negative reinforcement.. I'm not sure.

If you want your text-battle votes counted, please do one of the following:
1) quotes vs. quotes
2) construct some sort of logical argument that compares the verses on concrete evidence. and by logical, I'm not taking a shot at you, I'm saying:
- summarize the verses according to some premises/ conditions
- use some method to determine which verse is the winner based on these premises
- write a brief conclusion, showing which writer you picked
3) bar by bar breakdown

compliment niggas all day. pass attaboys round the campfire til the sun comes up. If youre not gonna look at this like a competition, and grade it like a 7th grade art project instead, keep it to PMs

do you seriously want me to go cpy and paste every vote made in the alias battle..

and show you whos vote is who, even though it says our name in the post..

of course the 3 mainly complained about where story writers.. ahh if you havent notice the battlers here think the on a demi god type shit..

[Split]

do you seriously want me to go cpy and paste every vote made in the alias battle..

and show you whos vote is who, even though it says our name in the post..

of course the 3 mainly complained about where story writers.. ahh if you havent notice the battlers here think the on a demi god type shit..

CK. listen yo. just because they got it out for you, doesnt make your votes any more valid

if you'd like you can post every vote from the alias battle here and I'll tell you why it is or is not logically sound

it will not go as you planned, trust

[Cereal_Killa]

SWEEETT

..

ARt:
Lol, internet connection line vs flexs pretty much.. Not many connections
Gamble's got this easy

knuckle:

after the fight, rear naked was ok

vs

drag was eh

bad wording all around, mediocre concepts but vince had better attempts

v/vince

Bleak:

after the fight

vs.

on the block

best lines from both, Vince also had rear naked choke that was decent. Really close, I could go either way, but i enjoyed Vince's verse more

v/Vince

Sharp Nine:

Opener, street boss, overall wack

V

Nothing really


Walt bodied Tony tbh. He got it pretty easily

V/Walter


Allen:


You're both skinny as fuck. Prolly got AIDS...but who can blame ya
Sex for you two was like rubbing sticks together...it's no wonder Snoop's a flamer
The Grandpa goes after chicks...when he tries they lose a few tears
Trust me...Anne Frank wasn't the only girl to hide from you for two years

Vs

when you say your underground, its not cause of unpublicized rap tours,
its cause at the first sight of a german, you hide under the floor boards/


V/Knucklehead grandparents, snoops grandparents verse had some good
concepts but the wording came off weak tbh i think knucks grandparents took this by a little imo, cool battle

Split:

notsureifsrs

Snoops grandparents had an okay line in there, I am sure.

Knuckleheads grandparents were not much better but definitely connected more of all fronts. Better wording. A little corny. Doesn't matter, ethered

V/Knucks grandparents

...

OK so you prolly think there is nothing wrong with that.. yall just qouted there verse.. and said one thing about the actual verse..

ie..
concept is good
concept is bad
concept is constant
constant is concept..

The rest of the shit is just like "ohh didnt feel it.."

...............

Are You ready..

IAMBENT:

Knuck's - Funny, relevant, personal, and pretty dope.. I like the style too,easy to read.

Snoops - Wow some funny lines in here, the closer was nice, but the opener was not so great, but understated in an original way.

I think snoop's was more original but Knuck's was harder hitting.

Vote -Knuck's Grandparents

CEREAL:

Kim - this was sick, well structured with a good rhythm to it.. Knowledge of opponent and just all round nice..

That union line was ill :)

John - dude this was cool, i mean you had standard anonymous punchlines that where cool, some witty wordplay.. but no personals, not one.. But your style was still cool..

vote = kimJong Un

BUDDAH:

Obama had the screaming at church line which was pretty funny and the head to toe line was good.

Al Qaeda had unemployment line and the 7 cousins line was lotb imo.

I gotta give this Al Qaeda though. Their lines hit harder imo.

...

If yall seriously just wanted us to quote lines and say they wack.. buddah did that and his name still got brought up..

[Split]

werd
will be back after class to break this down for ya

[Cereal_Killa]

Take ur time dude.. I know yah good for it :)

[StarFaggot]

I think it's good that you're encouraging textcees to vote better. It makes people more enthusiastic to write.

[Just Write]

Split hows my votes bro?

[Zen]

Why was I put in this lol

[IamBenT]

Why was I put in this lol

because you are a storyteller lol naw.


Split just wants us to step our game up. Say it with our chests.

[Zen]

Well fuck it I'll let the text battlers vote.

[~RustyGunZ~]

lmao cereal u picked the ONE lazy vote of mine, go look at all my other ones

that was on my phone cus defiant told me to vote on those battles

[StarFaggot]

Who complained about quality of votes? Should be happy that people are voting at this point.

[Allen Knight]

And wen u have ignorant cats like Bags and Allen why wld we want to break it down prop, wen they aren't rdy to learn..

All that will happen is this exact same thread but we wld have wasted MORE of our time..

Yah dig..

Stfu u faggot....i call it how it is....ur a dumb fuck for the way u vote
Its a text battle not a track the way u vote is retarded

[Sharp]

sharp nines vote was also obviously wrong

tbh yeah

i voted for like all those alias battles in one sitting. I think that bomb line just tainted everything for me. I'm pretty sure this was the only bad vote I've given in awhile tho.

but it was tied when i voted, everyone hoped on al queida after that and they really shouldnt have.

That last alias tourney i think it was Personal Jesus who in one round voted first and for every dude that everyone else thought was losing, luckily the voting pool (myself included) intervened with good votes. The point is this voting pool was shitty and seems to have hopped on a train of poorly justified votes against you.

If they rode my vote specifically then I am sorry Orc.

But no one has said "the bomb" un-ironically for about 10-15 years

[Zen]

I didn't hop on board at all. I enjoyed bleak's verse more simple as that and now my votings being called into question lol. This is why this is an alias tourney and it would've passed without any problems until bleak made a thread out of it. But I'm done voting on yalls shit. Beggars can't be choosers.

[Sharp]

Sharp Nine:

Opener, street boss, overall wack

V

Nothing really


Walt bodied Tony tbh. He got it pretty easily

V/Walter




this is how i quote lines if im voting from my phone

its not 6 lines of text, but it represents that much a like a dollar bill represents actual value.

The issue is you guys are more focused on things like flow and rhythm



Kim - this was sick, well structured with a good rhythm to it.. Knowledge of opponent and just all round nice..


dis is not greet

[Flow]

Agree with sharp, clearly it has to rhyme but like I just said in another thread flow is a bonus and if done with good punches concepts etc then it adds weight but it is in no way the priority. I prefer a bar by bar breakdown but the way sharp votes on his phone should take kudos, it shows he read all your bars an is critiquing you on them all. As someone on my phone most the time even that takes some effort I think.

I think the major problem is sheep voting!! An by bar by bar break downs you are essentially making it harder for someone to just sheep vote.

Sharp has already given a good example of this I think, but seriously sheep voting is becoming a major piss take around here, especially with some of the guys with lower post counts.

[Zen]

I used to battle on ihh and hf so I know how to vote. I know that in text battles flow isn't a factor at all it's all about creativity of the punch and how hard the punch hits. If flow was a factor noone would've won any battles on ihh and those guys were the best battlers I've ever read lol

[Split]

I used to battle on ihh and hf so I know how to vote

http://thegboatdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/8p10n.gif

[Zen]

lol

[Immaculate]

Lol you guys are getting waaay to picky now...keep this up & yal have no one voting on anything. Just be thankful that people are actually taking time out to fucking read these battles and putting in a vote in the first place.

[~RustyGunZ~]

I used to battle on ihh and hf so I know how to vote. I know that in text battles flow isn't a factor at all it's all about creativity of the punch and how hard the punch hits. If flow was a factor noone would've won any battles on ihh and those guys were the best battlers I've ever read lol

who were u there

[Inno]

I predict the "go vote" threads will rise drastically

[dead man]

txt battle votes are the laziest shit

quote

vs.

quote



v/ longer quote

stay up

[~RustyGunZ~]

i hated the quote vs quote when i joined nc tbh

was used to years of full breakdowns otherwise ur vote didn't count

that's why i do break downs under each set of quotes usually

[Chyeahhh!!!]

http://thegboatdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/8p10n.gif

the nicholas cage gifs get me every time lmao

[Cereal_Killa]

Ahhhh man its a text battle.. I have no problem with they way you all vote..

i am just bringing it to attention..

that we were singled out for no reason.. as usual and we are all in the same boat..

tis all good, though keep it TRILL

[Zen]

who were u there
ZenLand. I was there from like 06-08

[~RustyGunZ~]

u battled? were u any good?

name kindd of sounds familiar

[Zen]

No I was just decent I'd say and that's me being generous to myself lol. I was in a few leagues but I didn't do anything big on there. I was Malachi's age in those days.

[~RustyGunZ~]

word

miss that place

pretty similiar to what lama did to NC, doesn't give me much faith in all vets getting here tbh

many were lost in the death of IHH