best producer/beatmaker of all time

[uh-oh]

name yours

i will neg incorrect answers, because yes, there is a correct answer

GO

[Fig]

Madlib

But I already know you kinda don't like him

[Certain]

DJ Premier.

Mods, close this thread.

[Mike Wrecka]

DJ Premier.

Mods, close this thread.

[THE PUZZLEMASTER]

Large Professor.

[uh-oh]

i can't neg fig i need to spread it around?

but i negged naq.

i cant rep certain, but i repped wrecka

PREMIER

CLOSE THREAD THANKS FOR PLAYING

[Fig]

I would neg people but I can't on my phone

I can only rep

But someone should link some premier shit

[Ghost1]

I been told stupid frank metts the answer wqs premo 2 years ago

Neg urself negger

[THE PUZZLEMASTER]

Premo is dope, but if he learned from large pro, what does that say? Lp is one of the most prolific and most slept on, but whatever, neg me some more. Peace

[uh-oh]

YEA WELL if frank metts is in a music discussion i try to avoid it. he probably would say eminem

and fig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF7AU12LMB0

this came up randomly in my music folder shuffle thing this morning and i forgot about it and it spiraled into a premier appreciation morning

he's been as dope as he's always been since he PREMIERED

he still makes BANGERS in 2014. still with the same format

NEVER evolved, same stlye of beats, same chopping style, same everything

still consistent.

there are others who stuck to their original format, but they'll never be better than they were, and don't maintain that level. dudes like alchemist fell off, them falling off is still better than most

but premo never fell off, and never will.

[uh-oh]

Premo is dope, but if he learned from large pro, what does that say? Lp is one of the most prolific and most slept on, but whatever, neg me some more. Peace

i love you and glad you are back.

singletary coached ray lewis

but ray lewis is the GOAT.

[THE PUZZLEMASTER]

That was the only acceptable answer. Cool... still, maybe one these days go see what large pro dud for hip-hop. Still want you to write for me bro... Peace

[Fig]

Oh yeah that's the 25th hour. That shit is hot. I forgot about Reks

[Ghost1]

Frqnk said dre

Which is probably as close to em as he couod get within reason lol

[oats]

Premier is obvious top choice. Dr. Dre isn't far behind IMO.

[uh-oh]

That was the only acceptable answer. Cool... still, maybe one these days go see what large pro dud for hip-hop. Still want you to write for me bro... Peace

i know about large pro. he's da god

i just try and judge dudes on there actual music, and no ones catalog touches premiers

if i was to base it on impact and influence and everything like that i would probably put marley marl above everyone, but i do put large pro in that category, same with finesse and pete and showbiz and diamond and all them dudes

legends.

premier just has the mass appeal and has been great forever and still is great, and i admire how he can keep it so simple, yet every time it loops around i still gotta grind my teeth with the i smell shit face cuz its so nasty

[uh-oh]

dre is dope but he's like top 20 for me, mostly because of his lack of output

and because im hating cuz people over the years are all like YO I WAS AT DRE'S THE SHIT HE PLAYED THO!!!

and then nothing ever comes out so apparently dre is sitting on thousands of bangers but produces like 1 track every 4 years. yawn

[oats]

Pete rock is up there as well

[Certain]

When did Large Professor "train" DJ Premier? Premier was active years before and is six years older than and was ahead of LP from the get-go.

My five favorite DJ Premier beats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mnyBp4FzzI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjckjX13Nvk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QznoTgWVo_E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKjj4hk0pV4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK6-dN1ldQE

[uh-oh]

When did Large Professor "train" DJ Premier? Premier was active years before and is six years older than and was ahead of LP from the get-go.

My five favorite DJ Premier beats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mnyBp4FzzI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjckjX13Nvk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QznoTgWVo_E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKjj4hk0pV4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK6-dN1ldQE

i think professor put him on to the mpc60, which he used for like 20 years

he started on the sp1200 im pretty sure, then went to the mpc60 or mpc60II or whatever, now he's on the mpcrenaissance

but yea he basically showed premier how to use the mpc. he didnt give him his sound or nothing tho or teach him how to chop or anything

[uh-oh]

also certain get out of the 90's bro

i love all those beats with the fires of a million nukes

but he's got so much shit after all that to love too

[Certain]

also certain get out of the 90's bro

i love all those beats with the fires of a million nukes

but he's got so much shit after all that to love too

Yeah, I know. I love plenty of his stuff from the 2000s. I thought he did a good job with Papoose last year. This beat is good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t94LapLehak

Also, that makes sense regarding Large Professor's influence. But let's not pretend like he invented DJ Premier. This isn't some RZA/Mathematics relationship.

[El Muffin]

Dilla , stoupe..9th wonder

Premo obv choice but yea

[THE PUZZLEMASTER]

Lol, idk who taught who I was just talking shit. But I did say IF... lol

[Malachi]

be hearin alot of people give Dilla the title tho

but word ion knoww bout best but my fav gotta be Kanye tbh

[uh-oh]

kanye is dope for sure

as is dilla, but dilla gets alot of love cuz he's dead. you'd be hardpressed to find a dilla fan before he died

but now watch a bunch of people act like slum village was relevant and the 6 beats he did for common changed there live lmao

but word dilla was dope.

[THE PUZZLEMASTER]

Dilla did maaaad work tho,idgaf if a hipster noob wants to act like fila is a founding father, it won't change my opinion of him, besides, really, there is no "best" producer. Too subjective. Example, is dre a dope producer? No doubt. A dope beatmaker? Prolly just better than average imo...

[Ghost1]

Dilla shit is too sloppy for me

His g9od shit is great

But sometimes im like....wtf r u doin weirdo?

Never really liked to lqbel sum1 the goat of anythin tho....agree w naq on that

Specially on here.....it starts w whos the goat....every1 is right....an then it breaks down into....lets just name a bunch of people who r good

[uh-oh]

yea except premier is the GOAT

/closethread

[El Muffin]

I like madlibs work too
Alchemist

Just blaze fell off lol

[Fig]

Madlib and dilla are like the same dude

[Ghost1]

Just blaze fell off?!?!?

Foh

[THE PUZZLEMASTER]

Madlib and lord quas are like the same dude, get it right yo. And there's a taste for every tongue. I'm the goat.

[oats]

Timbaland is dope too, always makes hits.

Jim blaze > just blaze

[Jim Blaze]

One time i made a beat and batman died.

[Certain]

kanye is dope for sure

as is dilla, but dilla gets alot of love cuz he's dead. you'd be hardpressed to find a dilla fan before he died

but now watch a bunch of people act like slum village was relevant and the 6 beats he did for common changed there live lmao

but word dilla was dope.

All of this is accurate.

Nobody loved JayDee. Everybody loves Dilla, like he somehow got great at the exact moment he died.

[THE PUZZLEMASTER]

I still can't name one slum village song. So what? If you ain't down from the jump you can't recognize later? I kept hearing about this dilla guy so I have him a shot. Didn't know he was shit down till after I heard some instrumentals. Wtf/e. Your early adopter status can't stop me from appreciating dope shit. RIP

[trap]

New Primo is just as good as the 90's shit.

The beat he gave Vinnie Paz for The Oracle is killer.

Still, I'd say Pete Rock. Personal preference. Primo is super close though.

[trap]

I still can't name one slum village song. So what? If you ain't down from the jump you can't recognize later? I kept hearing about this dilla guy so I have him a shot. Didn't know he was shit down till after I heard some instrumentals. Wtf/e. Your early adopter status can't stop me from appreciating dope shit. RIP

Revisit ATCQ's Beats, Rhymes, & Life.

[oats]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDUKKypMb3Q

Always liked this beat

[Joe Metts]

SWIZZ BEATS


nah premo is the goat.


Ruben deserves some love. Sorry Jimbo I know he's white.

[Destroyer]

I'm going with kanye cause fuck you that's why

[THE PUZZLEMASTER]

Rick is def boss status

[Malachi]

why do beats rarely catch my attention

like sometimes theres just dope ass ones that i cant not be noddin my head too
but other than that they just be there to me. to be rhymed over

thats why i said kanye my fav cause alot of his beats are just amazing to me, and i never really care bout them.

I like shit wit that soul in it

[Ghost1]

I used to feel like that when i first found rap too tbh

I was so enthralled and intrigued with the writing and storytelling rarely did a beat matter to me

Nearly 20 years later ive heard everything they have to say...to an extent....so the beats are what really keep my attention anymore....especially seeing certain rappers approaches to different melodies and breaks

Honestly .....if the beat is even mildly mediocre at this stage that songs gettin cut the fuck off i dont care if they spit the meaning of life.

[Certain]

Revisit ATCQ's Beats, Rhymes, & Life.

Terribly boring album.

[THE PUZZLEMASTER]

^ bold statement. write for me.

[trap]

Terribly boring album.

You're an idiot.

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

i dont think real heads really have one producer over the rest

mean, push come to shove a muhfucka could say, but whats the point?

long as a nigga covers the essentials, preem, pro, early rza & havoc etc...its all good

also, im inclined to throw the alchemist name in this muhfucka...feel the nigga gets slept on something stupid, i'd easliy put him up there.

[Neighbor]

Stoupe

[Neighbor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvLX1-FBqao