had a Roy Jones vs Bruce Lee argument and it pissed me off

[...the Nagger]

Roy Jones would wash Bruce Lee son

[super pimp trillionaire]

stay pissed.

[God Of War]

Roy Jones would get broken by Bruce Lee, It isn't even a question of if it would or would not happen but more of a how bad would it happen type question.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Roy Jones would get broken by Bruce Lee, It isn't even a question of if it would or would not happen but more of a how bad would it happen type question.

^.

[...the Nagger]

how so @gow?

Bruce Lee wasn't a fighter.

Roy jones beat 50 FREAKIN PPL IN A ROW SON, GROWN MEN, WITHOUT GETTIN TOUCHED

Roy Jones, would without question, wash Bruce Lee

[...the Nagger]

House is a great show, but House would never do my surgery

Enter the Dragon was a classic. like seriously, one of the greatest kung fu flicks ever
but cmon son, bruce lee weighed 130 lbs soakin wet. he was in shape, and did pretty moves on camera

but we talking about a prize fighter who is a hall of fame boxer in (one of the) best eras in boxing

no, bruce doesn't win

he didn't even compete. he just made movies?

Its a difference between doing scripted beautiful kung fu moves on camera, and going out in a field and fightin yo

[God Of War]

Bruce Lee was a fighter though bro. He had to fight to get his martial arts to become an actual style. Bruce Lee fought his entire life and just check this out my G

7. Want to challenge Bruce Lee? Just tap your foot on the ground!
After he got famous, a lot of people thought they could beat Bruce - they would walk up to him, tap their foot on the ground (symbolizing a challenge) and then proceed to attack him! Well... maybe not that literal, but Bruce's popularity certainly attracted a lot nutcase trying to prove they're better than him.

One day, while filming Enter the Dragon, an extra taunted Bruce Lee and challenged him to fight. The whole thing went on like this:

"This kid was good. He was no punk. He was strong and fast, and he was really trying to punch Bruce's brains in. But Bruce just methodically took him apart."

"I mean Bruce kept moving so well, this kid couldn't touch him...Then all of a sudden, Bruce got him and rammed his ass into the wall and swept him, he proceeded to drop his knee into his opponent's chest, locked his arm out straight, and nailed him in the face repeatedly."

Typical of Bruce Lee, after the fight he didn't fire the extra - he actually gave his challenger lesson on how to improve!

8. Bruce Lee was Strong
In 1964, Bruce was invited to a karate championship in Long Beach, California. There he performed his famous "One Inch Punch," where he would deliver a devastating blow from only an inch away, sending his opponent flying back!


[YouTube Link]

Bob Baker of Stockton, whom Bruce hit, said "I told Bruce not to do this type of demonstration again. When he punched me that last time, I had to stay home from work because the pain in my chest was unbearable."

... and Fast!
Most martial art films are sped up to make fighting scenes appear fast, but not Bruce Lee's. His moves were too fast to be captured on the regular 24 frames per second film - so they had to film him at 32 fps, and run the film slower so you can see his moves.

[trap.]

I don't know why I'm going to explain to you why Bruce Lee would win but it's based on one thing. Roy Jones fought his whole career defending himself from someone's hands. Bruce Lee does more than that. He could wax Roy just with a kick. Unless you want to further explain your statement with "in a boxing ring" but even then, Bruce's hands were quicker than Roy's.

Plus man, he beat Chuck Norris and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. C'mon son.

[uh-oh]

bruce lee fought a bunch of martial arts dudes

bruce lee would probably get him. i dont think it would be a one sided slaughter tho. prime roy jones was an animal. not sure about bruce lees grapple game. it would come down to bruce lees feet.

if he could keep away for A LONG TIME. then bruce lee could probably nitpick him

but i dunno YO

roy jones was one of the nastiest most efficient boxers of all time. im pretty sure he holds the record for NEVER being punched in a whole round of boxing. when he fought vinnie pazienza, vinnie was throwing at air for a whole round, while getting WORKED

roy jones is nasty

if bruce lee is efficient at grappling it could be alot different

but i could see both arguments

roy jones is also a giant compared to bruce lee.

[...the Nagger]

Bruce Lee was a fighter though bro. He had to fight to get his martial arts to become an actual style. Bruce Lee fought his entire life and just check this out my G

7. Want to challenge Bruce Lee? Just tap your foot on the ground!
After he got famous, a lot of people thought they could beat Bruce - they would walk up to him, tap their foot on the ground (symbolizing a challenge) and then proceed to attack him! Well... maybe not that literal, but Bruce's popularity certainly attracted a lot nutcase trying to prove they're better than him.

One day, while filming Enter the Dragon, an extra taunted Bruce Lee and challenged him to fight. The whole thing went on like this:

"This kid was good. He was no punk. He was strong and fast, and he was really trying to punch Bruce's brains in. But Bruce just methodically took him apart."

"I mean Bruce kept moving so well, this kid couldn't touch him...Then all of a sudden, Bruce got him and rammed his ass into the wall and swept him, he proceeded to drop his knee into his opponent's chest, locked his arm out straight, and nailed him in the face repeatedly."

Typical of Bruce Lee, after the fight he didn't fire the extra - he actually gave his challenger lesson on how to improve!

8. Bruce Lee was Strong
In 1964, Bruce was invited to a karate championship in Long Beach, California. There he performed his famous "One Inch Punch," where he would deliver a devastating blow from only an inch away, sending his opponent flying back!


[YouTube Link]

Bob Baker of Stockton, whom Bruce hit, said "I told Bruce not to do this type of demonstration again. When he punched me that last time, I had to stay home from work because the pain in my chest was unbearable."

... and Fast!
Most martial art films are sped up to make fighting scenes appear fast, but not Bruce Lee's. His moves were too fast to be captured on the regular 24 frames per second film - so they had to film him at 32 fps, and run the film slower so you can see his moves.

What does this prove?

we know he's fast. the moves are scripted tho. even if they aren't scripted all the way thru, they're scripted to the point that you can't interrupt Bruce?

imagine Roy Hittin a speed bag? he would look mighty fast bro

and that extra wasn't on the level of Roy Jones Jr? If he was, we'd prolly at least know his name

[Joe Metts]

Yall treating Roy like he's pernell whitaker tho.

He had offense and the quickest hands since ali.

[EtH]

I think you guys need to take into account that not only can prime Roy Jones really knock out any man with a perfectly placed punch, but that prime Roy Jones was MUCH heavier than Bruce Lee. Lee could win because it's a kickboxing match, but Jones only has to land one clean shot to win the fight.

I don't get all the hype on Bruce Lee. He's a beast martial artist, but Bren Foster has probably more martial arts credentials right off the bat. Bruce Lee was only as popular as he was through the movies. None of you know his fighting ability. Tony Jaa can rainbox kick about 3 times his height, can he use that in a fight? Probably not. Lee COULD have been the greatest fighter of all time, based on his work rate though. People always say "An MMA fighter could just take Bruce down and beat him up". 100% true, but that's because Bruce Lee wasn't an MMA fighter. You'd struggle to find anyone in the world with the training regime and ethic of Lee, so give him that specific style to train in, and he kills it.

Roy Jones wins by KO for me though. Size difference is too much.

[trap.]

Metts, no-one is treating him that way. Roy Jones is the greatest .. at boxing. Bruce Lee was the greatest in martial arts, which encompasses boxing (in a variation) and MUCH more. Bruce Lee was the best, if not one of the best, in any form of fighting he tried.

[God Of War]

man no one was as quick as bruce lee ever, and not to mention bruce lee was trained in grappling, and by one fo the best martial arts teachers there was then proceeded to dominate it. lee also fought in boxing tournaments and martial art tournaments when he was young. bruce lee stopped ebcause he loved the art of fighting and focused on it and didnt like to be pinned with rules. roy jones is no where near as trained as bruce lee was. nor as skillful

[God Of War]

I think you guys need to take into account that not only can prime Roy Jones really knock out any man with a perfectly placed punch, but that prime Roy Jones was MUCH heavier than Bruce Lee. Lee could win because it's a kickboxing match, but Jones only has to land one clean shot to win the fight.

I don't get all the hype on Bruce Lee. He's a beast martial artist, but Bren Foster has probably more martial arts credentials right off the bat. Bruce Lee was only as popular as he was through the movies. None of you know his fighting ability. Tony Jaa can rainbox kick about 3 times his height, can he use that in a fight? Probably not. Lee COULD have been the greatest fighter of all time, based on his work rate though. People always say "An MMA fighter could just take Bruce down and beat him up". 100% true, but that's because Bruce Lee wasn't an MMA fighter. You'd struggle to find anyone in the world with the training regime and ethic of Lee, so give him that specific style to train in, and he kills it.

Roy Jones wins by KO for me though. Size difference is too much.


thats a comment from someone who has no idea what he is talking about to be completely honest. sorry bro but your fucking full of shit.

[...the Nagger]

I don't know why I'm going to explain to you why Bruce Lee would win but it's based on one thing. Roy Jones fought his whole career defending himself from someone's hands. Bruce Lee does more than that. He could wax Roy just with a kick. Unless you want to further explain your statement with "in a boxing ring" but even then, Bruce's hands were quicker than Roy's.

Plus man, he beat Chuck Norris and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. C'mon son.

no disrespect but chuck norris and kareem aren't 20% of Roy Jones put together

and no, I'm talking about outside in the street, like they got in an argument somehow and decided to throw down

Roy would wash Bruce. Bruce would get a few kicks in tho

but imagine that one time when he kicks his leg up and counters Bruce right in his DOME

[...the Nagger]

bruce lee fought a bunch of martial arts dudes

bruce lee would probably get him. i dont think it would be a one sided slaughter tho. prime roy jones was an animal. not sure about bruce lees grapple game. it would come down to bruce lees feet.

if he could keep away for A LONG TIME. then bruce lee could probably nitpick him

but i dunno YO

roy jones was one of the nastiest most efficient boxers of all time. im pretty sure he holds the record for NEVER being punched in a whole round of boxing. when he fought vinnie pazienza, vinnie was throwing at air for a whole round, while getting WORKED

roy jones is nasty

if bruce lee is efficient at grappling it could be alot different

but i could see both arguments

roy jones is also a giant compared to bruce lee.

yea, Bruce was only 130 man smh. he would LITERALLY get his head punched off

[EtH]

thats a comment from someone who has no idea what he is talking about to be completely honest. sorry bro but your fucking full of shit.

I've watched the same Bruce Lee films that you have. You must have watched his millions of well documented fights.

[Joe Metts]

Dumbest argument ever honestly.

So im out.

But idk who id pick. I know jack shit about bruce lee. Never seen a movie.

[trap.]

no disrespect but chuck norris and kareem aren't 20% of Roy Jones put together

and no, I'm talking about outside in the street, like they got in an argument somehow and decided to throw down

Roy would wash Bruce. Bruce would get a few kicks in tho

but imagine that one time when he kicks his leg up and counters Bruce right in his DOME

I was fucking with you on that Norris / Jabbar shit.

I could see Roy winning every one to two times out of ten that they fought. I'll give Roy that, just because once in a while, he has to get lucky / catch him off guard, especially if this is a street fight.

Here's where we go into all these "what-if's" though..

[...the Nagger]

I think you guys need to take into account that not only can prime Roy Jones really knock out any man with a perfectly placed punch, but that prime Roy Jones was MUCH heavier than Bruce Lee. Lee could win because it's a kickboxing match, but Jones only has to land one clean shot to win the fight.

I don't get all the hype on Bruce Lee. He's a beast martial artist, but Bren Foster has probably more martial arts credentials right off the bat. Bruce Lee was only as popular as he was through the movies. None of you know his fighting ability. Tony Jaa can rainbox kick about 3 times his height, can he use that in a fight? Probably not. Lee COULD have been the greatest fighter of all time, based on his work rate though. People always say "An MMA fighter could just take Bruce down and beat him up". 100% true, but that's because Bruce Lee wasn't an MMA fighter. You'd struggle to find anyone in the world with the training regime and ethic of Lee, so give him that specific style to train in, and he kills it.

Roy Jones wins by KO for me though. Size difference is too much.

thank you. this was starting to get ridiculous

you tellin me this little dude can beat HOF Boxers of our generation???

like cmon yall sound silly.

y'all need top get off his D

[...the Nagger]

Metts, no-one is treating him that way. Roy Jones is the greatest .. at boxing. Bruce Lee was the greatest in martial arts, which encompasses boxing (in a variation) and MUCH more. Bruce Lee was the best, if not one of the best, in any form of fighting he tried.

1. aren't you metts?

2. Boxing > Martial arts (opinion of most active fighters regardless of style)

3. Bruce Lee was not the greatest Martial Artist ever, man, he ain't even close

4. RJJ was not the greatest boxer ever

[God Of War]

I've watched the same Bruce Lee films that you have. You must have watched his millions of well documented fights.

no its because i know what im talking aboutt, bruce lee had tons of fights, not to mention trained with some of the best grapplers there ever was. even people like bill superfoot wallace and shit still say bruce lee was the best fighter they ever seen because he was trained in so many different styles and he constantly had to fight.

roy jones can box thats it and thats all he would do. size has nothing to do with your ability as a fighter i dont give a fuck what yall say thats dumb as shit, speed, strength etc has much more to do with it then your size.

if you don't know what the dude done or accomplished how could you actually speak on it like you do know?

[God Of War]

I was fucking with you on that Norris / Jabbar shit.

I could see Roy winning every one to two times out of ten that they fought. I'll give Roy that, just because once in a while, he has to get lucky / catch him off guard, especially if this is a street fight.

Here's where we go into all these "what-if's" though..

I don't even give himt hat bro cuz lee was much more of a street fighter,

[EtH]

You guys aren't taking in account the RIDICULOUS strength of a professional boxer either. There's a reason people said if James Toney, one of the worse current popular boxers in the world, landed on Randy Couture, it was over. Jones lands ONE punch on Lee, Lee is out.

[EtH]

no its because i know what im talking aboutt, bruce lee had tons of fights, not to mention trained with some of the best grapplers there ever was. even people like bill superfoot wallace and shit still say bruce lee was the best fighter they ever seen because he was trained in so many different styles and he constantly had to fight.

roy jones can box thats it and thats all he would do. size has nothing to do with your ability as a fighter i dont give a fuck what yall say thats dumb as shit, speed, strength etc has much more to do with it then your size.

if you don't know what the dude done or accomplished how could you actually speak on it like you do know?

Gene LeBell would have been the grappler to mention. But you really think Bruce Lee would want to grapple with a man twice his size, and a man who could knock him out in one punch? Show me ANY proof that Bruce Lee was a big time successful fighter, beyond speculation. He diffidently had a few fights. A few fights Vs one of the best prime boxers of all time.

[God Of War]

bullshit, lee was known as a combat fighter, fought in tons and tons of exhibitions around the world and etc. jones wouldnt even hit lee

[...the Nagger]

I was fucking with you on that Norris / Jabbar shit.

I could see Roy winning every one to two times out of ten that they fought. I'll give Roy that, just because once in a while, he has to get lucky / catch him off guard, especially if this is a street fight.

Here's where we go into all these "what-if's" though..

well these aren't what ifs:

- Bruce Lee has 0 professional experience fighting

- Roy is a HOF professional boxer

- Roy Jones Jr's first 50 fights he finished 49-1, with the 1 loss coming when he wouldn't stop punchin someone. that means he fought 50 other professional fighters, like you kno, not extras on a movie set, but grown men looking to win money, he beat all of em with no problem

- Roy would have 30-40 pounds over Lee

- Roy would have several inches of Reach over Bruce

- Roy would be in better FIGHTING (notice I said fighting) shape than Lee

- Roy Jones would be the fastest competitor Bruce Lee ever saw irl

- Roy won a belt 20 different times in his career, ranging through different weight classes, fighting all different sizes and speeds/strengths present in one of the most competitive eras of boxing



there's no way that this guy who is over matched and did mostly movie kung fu, would "destroy" one of the greatest fighters ever in the world, simply because he made Enter the Dragon

Metts seems to acknowledge his lack of fighting experience but for some reason doesn't see that as a factor when comparing the two?

[God Of War]

Gene LeBell would have been the grappler to mention. But you really think Bruce Lee would want to grapple with a man twice his size, and a man who could knock him out in one punch? Show me ANY proof that Bruce Lee was a big time successful fighter, beyond speculation. He diffidently had a few fights. A few fights Vs one of the best prime boxers of all time.

Bruce lee had hundred of exhibition fights, nto to mentionw hy would dudes like superfoot,chuck norris, etc say that bruce lee was the best fighter they ever seen? wtf would they have to lie for.

superfoot himself said that bruce lee studied and knew many different ways to fight a man that he was a combat fighter

[God Of War]

well these aren't what ifs:

- Bruce Lee has 0 professional experience fighting

- Roy is a HOF professional boxer

- Roy Jones Jr's first 50 fights he finished 49-1, with the 1 loss coming when he wouldn't stop punchin someone. that means he fought 50 other professional fighters, like you kno, not extras on a movie set, but grown men looking to win money, he beat all of em with no problem

- Roy would have 30-40 pounds over Lee

- Roy would have several inches of Reach over Bruce

- Roy would be in better FIGHTING (notice I said fighting) shape than Lee

- Roy Jones would be the fastest competitor Bruce Lee ever saw irl

- Roy won a belt 20 different times in his career, ranging through different weight classes, fighting all different sizes and speeds/strengths present in one of the most competitive eras of boxing


thats wrong, jeet kun do fighters is known to have the fastest speeds in professional fighting including boxing. plus lee was alot faster then jones

[...the Nagger]

bullshit, lee was known as a combat fighter, fought in tons and tons of exhibitions around the world and etc. jones wouldnt even hit lee

nigga that sounds insae. yes he would hit lee


and where are these exhibitions? you're making stuff up gow

[Joe Metts]

Im not trap man.

Just cause were from md?

Aren't you butler, fake frac and richard corey.

Y'all are black. Makes sense.

[Evolve]

thank you. this was starting to get ridiculous

you tellin me this little dude can beat HOF Boxers of our generation???

like cmon yall sound silly.

y'all need top get off his D

Okay, I'm going to pick out some flaws in your theory here.

Roy Jones was strictly a boxer. He could punch, yes but he wasn't versatile.
Your opinion really comes out from the fact being Roy Jones was 'Bigger' than Bruce Lee... and yes, he was. However, Bruce Lee WAS versatile. He trained martial arts in a way that could defend him from the BIGGEST of opponent. Size wouldn't matter because he was trained to stand up to ANYONE. Technique plays a big part in a fight.. If you haven't got technique then 9 times out of 10 you will lose. You can't charge into an army of soldiers without a shield and expect to NOT get stabbed. Bruce Lee HAD technique and he also had MORE speed than Roy Jones in his prime. Bruce Lee holds a record of punching faster and kicking faster in 1967 than ANY man on the planet. It was recorded that his famous 'One Inch Punch' was three times more fatal than a 30mph head-on car crash. That IS fact. Roy Jones' accolades doesn't even start to compare to Bruce Lee's.

Any man can punch and knock someone out if they hit the right spot. Not every man is versatile ontop of being able to punch three times harder than a 30MPH head-on car crash.

ALSO - you say Bruce Lee wasn't a fight... he was just in movies...

Think to yourself... Why was he in movies? Why did people want him to star in movies? How did he get noticed?

Because of his fighting and incredible combat/fighting techniques/style.

[uh-oh]

no its because i know what im talking aboutt, bruce lee had tons of fights, not to mention trained with some of the best grapplers there ever was. even people like bill superfoot wallace and shit still say bruce lee was the best fighter they ever seen because he was trained in so many different styles and he constantly had to fight.

roy jones can box thats it and thats all he would do. size has nothing to do with your ability as a fighter i dont give a fuck what yall say thats dumb as shit, speed, strength etc has much more to do with it then your size.

if you don't know what the dude done or accomplished how could you actually speak on it like you do know?

GoW, eddies obviously trollin somewhat

but if you honestly believe bruce lee could just handle roy jones like its nothing you are fooling yourself or dont know roy jones

granted if bruce lee knows judo or whatever which im sure he does, it could be a quick fight. but striking wise you could give bruce his speed quickness etc. roy's speed SIZE strength, REACH and quickness would body him.

roy jones would look like a giant next to him, and he is extremely quick and agile

if bruce lee was leg kicking and shit and locking up to throw him then word he'd probably get him. but he'd have to get close to roy. which he probably could lets be real. he's a little dude probably shoots quick as fuck

if it was a standup match tho i'd bet the house on roy, even knowing all he has in his repertoire is his hands

[Joe Metts]

Jackie Chan had slick movies. He'd beat Vlladamir Klitschko i bet.

[God Of War]

GoW, eddies obviously trollin somewhat

but if you honestly believe bruce lee could just handle roy jones like its nothing you are fooling yourself or dont know roy jones

granted if bruce lee knows judo or whatever which im sure he does, it could be a quick fight. but striking wise you could give bruce his speed quickness etc. roy's speed SIZE strength, REACH and quickness would body him.

roy jones would look like a giant next to him, and he is extremely quick and agile

if bruce lee was leg kicking and shit and locking up to throw him then word he'd probably get him. but he'd have to get close to roy. which he probably could lets be real. he's a little dude probably shoots quick as fuck

if it was a standup match tho i'd bet the house on roy, even knowing all he has in his repertoire is his hands

but you forget he may not of been a professional boxer but lee studied boxing also for many years, bruce lee had speed and power. as evolve said roy jones would get fucked up

u can knock roy jones out so saying "if he hit him right" like everyone else said is crazy cuz if any one hits anyone right there done for lol

[uh-oh]

yo to be honest

im terrified of black people from florida

[...the Nagger]

thats wrong, jeet kun do fighters is known to have the fastest speeds in professional fighting including boxing. plus lee was alot faster then jones

I ain't saying he wasn't, pay attention

Roy jones had without doubt one of the fast set of hands, period. that we can't argue

without gloves on he would be faster. Lee might edge him out, but it ain't like it would be a drastic difference in a street fight

I think you confuse shadow boxing and kicking dudes while they're standing there holding pillows as having fast hands during combat.

But let's say Lee is faster. that is LITERALLY the only advantage?

Jones would have size, strength, and experience by a long shot.

and to really think Roy wouldn't even hit him? really? someone who is a HOF box, middle weight mind you, won;t have the craftiness to hit someone with no hands

and Bruce Lee had no hands/guard. I've seen ton of vids with him on a heavy bag

he's only gonna be able to lean and twist but so much and having a disadvantage in size and strength I see him gettin gassed first too, noticeably

[EtH]

Bruce lee had hundred of exhibition fights, nto to mentionw hy would dudes like superfoot,chuck norris, etc say that bruce lee was the best fighter they ever seen? wtf would they have to lie for.

superfoot himself said that bruce lee studied and knew many different ways to fight a man that he was a combat fighter

Show me some proof of the exhibition fights.

Ali would probably say Frazier was the best fighter he's ever seen. What difference does that make?

thats wrong, jeet kun do fighters is known to have the fastest speeds in professional fighting including boxing. plus lee was alot faster then jones

No it doest. Speed can be trained, but is also relative. When you take Capoeira and Tae Kwon Do, and even some more abstract arts like Snake style into account, many of the trainers would be faster than Bruce Lee. That's not trying to discredit Jeet Kun Do or Lee, he was insanely fast. It's just not as concrete as you make it sound. Yeah, Lee was MUCH faster than Jones, and for his weight class, Jones was one of the fastest of all time (another size thing though).

Bruce Lee COULD win. A side kick to the stomach would be hard as fuck for Jones to defend, given that he never has had to, and with the speed and power Lee puts into it, Jones might be in trouble. The problem is though, Lee was a small guy. To land his side kick, he's have to be pretty close. Jones would land the overhand right and probably take it.

Actually, Lee would almost def with. I think it would be one technique that would take it without too much effort, the knee strike. Jones, like all boxers, has small legs. Lee could cover up, throw in a knee stomp or side kick, and probably break or at least hyper extend it.

[uh-oh]

but you forget he may not of been a professional boxer but lee studied boxing also for many years, bruce lee had speed and power. as evolve said roy jones would get fucked up

u can knock roy jones out so saying "if he hit him right" like everyone else said is crazy cuz if any one hits anyone right there done for lol
nah i get it and like i said earlier i think bruce lee would win just because he could control where the fight goes

if it was a standing striking match, i don't care if bruce lee was a quadruple black belt in every martial art there is, roy jones would body him.

but bruce lee would dominate everywhere else. from the clinch, judo throws, from the ground etc.

so in a street fight, bruce would probably win. he'd get on him like clay quida, stick to him and put him out.

in a sanctioned kickboxing type match that allows knees elbows, headbutts basically everything BUT grappling. i got roy jones all day, somewhat easily.

im sure bruce lee was strong, but he'd be the one in need of that lucky punch or kick

[...the Nagger]

GoW, eddies obviously trollin somewhat

but if you honestly believe bruce lee could just handle roy jones like its nothing you are fooling yourself or dont know roy jones

granted if bruce lee knows judo or whatever which im sure he does, it could be a quick fight. but striking wise you could give bruce his speed quickness etc. roy's speed SIZE strength, REACH and quickness would body him.

roy jones would look like a giant next to him, and he is extremely quick and agile

if bruce lee was leg kicking and shit and locking up to throw him then word he'd probably get him. but he'd have to get close to roy. which he probably could lets be real. he's a little dude probably shoots quick as fuck

if it was a standup match tho i'd bet the house on roy, even knowing all he has in his repertoire is his hands

your hands/arms are you most valuable asset

you legs kick hard but if the most you can do is kick the next person's leg and the next person is a HOF boxer who greatly outmatches your size and is fats enough to catch wreck

I think I'd put my money on the boxer. its just common sense. Only little kids should believe that Bruce Lee has super powers, gow

[EtH]

nah i get it and like i said earlier i think bruce lee would win just because he could control where the fight goes

if it was a standing striking match, i don't care if bruce lee was a quadruple black belt in every martial art there is, roy jones would body him.

but bruce lee would dominate everywhere else. from the clinch, judo throws, from the ground etc.

so in a street fight, bruce would probably win. he'd get on him like clay quida, stick to him and put him out.

in a sanctioned kickboxing type match that allows knees elbows, headbutts basically everything BUT grappling. i got roy jones all day, somewhat easily.

im sure bruce lee was strong, but he'd be the one in need of that lucky punch or kick

Grappling in street fighting is a TERRIBLE idea. It doesn't take too much training to eye gouge and grab someone's groin. Mix in that Bruce Lee trained grappling, but wasn't a trained grappler, and the fact that Jones hits so hard and that he's so much bigger, Bruce would be best to avoid that area.

[God Of War]

Show me some proof of the exhibition fights.

Ali would probably say Frazier was the best fighter he's ever seen. What difference does that make?



No it doest. Speed can be trained, but is also relative. When you take Capoeira and Tae Kwon Do, and even some more abstract arts like Snake style into account, many of the trainers would be faster than Bruce Lee. That's not trying to discredit Jeet Kun Do or Lee, he was insanely fast. It's just not as concrete as you make it sound. Yeah, Lee was MUCH faster than Jones, and for his weight class, Jones was one of the fastest of all time (another size thing though).

Bruce Lee COULD win. A side kick to the stomach would be hard as fuck for Jones to defend, given that he never has had to, and with the speed and power Lee puts into it, Jones might be in trouble. The problem is though, Lee was a small guy. To land his side kick, he's have to be pretty close. Jones would land the overhand right and probably take it.

Actually, Lee would almost def with. I think it would be one technique that would take it without too much effort, the knee strike. Jones, like all boxers, has small legs. Lee could cover up, throw in a knee stomp or side kick, and probably break or at least hyper extend it.



so let me guess, your more knowing on the issue then a fucking 100 other professionals who has said the same thing?

not to mention bruce lee was in amateur boxing championships and won them

[uh-oh]

Actually, Lee would almost def with. I think it would be one technique that would take it without too much effort, the knee strike. Jones, like all boxers, has small legs. Lee could cover up, throw in a knee stomp or side kick, and probably break or at least hyper extend it.


yo i used to think the same thing, but it doesnt work in the ufc, so therefor i discredit it entirely. lol. the knee kicks/stomps. a regular leg kick is much more effective. to execute the regular leg kick lee would put himself in range for 5 punches in quick succession

[EtH]

so let me guess, your more knowing on the issue then a fucking 100 other professionals who has said the same thing?

not to mention bruce lee was in amateur boxing championships and won them

You're acting like you too are also more knowing. Some of the guys Roy Nelson has knocked out would say he's the hardest puncher they've ever felt. It doesn't mean he's the hardest puncher ever.

And show me proof of these amateur boxing championships. I think ALL Lee fighting credentials are all speculation.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Eddie is bored. he aint got no bby foxes burrowing under his office he aint riding a ten speed covered in wave cream and he wanted some excitement. he is NOT serious talkighting experience. if he is I hope the ghost of bruce lee armbars him into submission and then two inch punches his neighbors voicebox crooked. Bruce Lee has definitely influenced this generation of fighters and yes they grew off of his work, but we're talking about roy, not chan. Bruce is famous for his movies because he was famous for developing jeet kune do in america. he was also famous for REFUSING to fight Ali. out of respect? maybe, I believe the interview where he predicted a loss to Ali can readily be found on youtube. but roy is not Ali any more than he is Jacky. Ali woulda dusted roy he demolished monsters in his time. idk. seeing as BRUCE IS DEAD, this is more speculation and imagination than roy v manny, but imo, lee all day, with roy gettin a couple luck wins by sheer number of attempts. niggas act like bruce never whupped nobody bigger than he was... EVERYBODY was bigger than bruce. his wife was bigger than he was. EDDIE is bigger than he was. but he's dead. so all we have is a tale of the tape thats decades separated; do the math, the student of ip man teacher of chan and orginator of jeet kune do is not losing to this celebrated boxer. not on paper, not no way.

ppl say somebodys on lees nuts, I say get off roys nuts... bruces final style was a style without form, he woulda danced on roy. bruce had no fighting experience.... obv a slow day at work troll. good job Munster

[EtH]

yo i used to think the same thing, but it doesnt work in the ufc, so therefor i discredit it entirely. lol. the knee kicks/stomps. a regular leg kick is much more effective. to execute the regular leg kick lee would put himself in range for 5 punches in quick succession

Guys in the UFC have trained hyper extensions for a long time, not to mention that they've got built up as fuck legs. A lot of stuff doesn't work in UFC, but they are always martial artist vs martial artist, where as this would be martial artist vs boxer.

Yeah if Lee doesn't take the leg out, he's completely opened to a complete massacre of punches from Jones. In ANY form of close range, Jones beats Lee.

[uh-oh]

Grappling in street fighting is a TERRIBLE idea. It doesn't take too much training to eye gouge and grab someone's groin. Mix in that Bruce Lee trained grappling, but wasn't a trained grappler, and the fact that Jones hits so hard and that he's so much bigger, Bruce would be best to avoid that area.

everything about this statement is just wrong lol

roy would be lost on the ground, bruce lee would punish him and break his bones. probably choke the life from him.

grappling in a street fight is 99 percent of street fights

and by street fights i mean fights that last past the point of the sucker punch

[God Of War]

You're acting like you too are also more knowing. Some of the guys Roy Nelson has knocked out would say he's the hardest puncher they've ever felt. It doesn't mean he's the hardest puncher ever.

And show me proof of these amateur boxing championships. I think ALL Lee fighting credentials are all speculation.

go find it yourself its called the internet dumb ass

you do realise that back then not every one had iphoens and shit right/

also he won amateur boxing championships in hong kong

not to mention it was said that jeet kun do has the fastest hands out of all fighting styles. didnt say speed couldnt be trained but there obviously trained more

also you do realise back then you had to do exhibitions and shit at martial art exhibits for your art? or do you think he could just say hey im bruce lee i am creating a new style and they said BOOM U WIN AND U GOT IT

[super pimp trillionaire]

yo to be honest

im terrified of black people from florida

sigged.

[...the Nagger]

Okay, I'm going to pick out some flaws in your theory here.

Roy Jones was strictly a boxer. He could punch, yes but he wasn't versatile.
Your opinion really comes out from the fact being Roy Jones was 'Bigger' than Bruce Lee... and yes, he was. However, Bruce Lee WAS versatile. He trained martial arts in a way that could defend him from the BIGGEST of opponent. Size wouldn't matter because he was trained to stand up to ANYONE. Technique plays a big part in a fight.. If you haven't got technique then 9 times out of 10 you will lose. You can't charge into an army of soldiers without a shield and expect to NOT get stabbed. Bruce Lee HAD technique and he also had MORE speed than Roy Jones in his prime. Bruce Lee holds a record of punching faster and kicking faster in 1967 than ANY man on the planet. It was recorded that his famous 'One Inch Punch' was three times more fatal than a 30mph head-on car crash. That IS fact. Roy Jones' accolades doesn't even start to compare to Bruce Lee's.

Any man can punch and knock someone out if they hit the right spot. Not every man is versatile ontop of being able to punch three times harder than a 30MPH head-on car crash.

ALSO - you say Bruce Lee wasn't a fight... he was just in movies...

Think to yourself... Why was he in movies? Why did people want him to star in movies? How did he get noticed?

Because of his fighting and incredible combat/fighting techniques/style.

the reason why a lot of this is irrelevant to me is because his stuff didn't translate into fighting

he just doesn't have the experience fighting. he has experience performing and making movies.

all that stuff you said is pretty, but he didn't catch wreck and all of his exhibits was him doing stuff to ppl that weren't fighting him

Roy Jones fought for money. he beat fools in their heads. it just isn't the same thing

ppl sleep on boxers like they can't brawl outside the ring. remember, this is all fighting, and being able to punch like Roy would be the determining factor in this match-up

its not just his size, but his size is an advantage, idc if he "trained" to fight bigger ppl or not

he didn't even fight

size
strength
experience

besides the kicks to the legs I don;t see bruce effectively hittin roy either

he'd get maybe one punch in if Roy was being cocky, but let's be real

the only thiing Bruce would do is kick Roy's legs. that could work tho

but I got Roy winning 8/10 times

[...the Nagger]

go find it yourself its called the internet dumb ass

you do realise that back then not every one had iphoens and shit right/

also he won amateur boxing championships in hong kong

not to mention it was said that jeet kun do has the fastest hands out of all fighting styles. didnt say speed couldnt be trained but there obviously trained more

also you do realise back then you had to do exhibitions and shit at martial art exhibits for your art? or do you think he could just say hey im bruce lee i am creating a new style and they said BOOM U WIN AND U GOT IT

Bruce Lee has only won one recorded amateur tourny in his entire life yo

and I'm being serious. I thought it was common knowledge that he never competed

[...the Nagger]

everything about this statement is just wrong lol

roy would be lost on the ground, bruce lee would punish him and break his bones. probably choke the life from him.

grappling in a street fight is 99 percent of street fights

and by street fights i mean fights that last past the point of the sucker punch

if they squared off, Lee would get punched hard before he got to grapple Roy

[God Of War]

Bruce Lee has only won one recorded amateur tourny in his entire life yo

and I'm being serious. I thought it was common knowledge that he never competed

HE never competed in tournaments here but he did tons of exhibitions. not to mention he would have the edge in every aspect on jones ACCEPT size which is pretty irrelevant

[EtH]

everything about this statement is just wrong lol

roy would be lost on the ground, bruce lee would punish him and break his bones. probably choke the life from him.

grappling in a street fight is 99 percent of street fights

and by street fights i mean fights that last past the point of the sucker punch

Bruce Lee has NO experience in wrestling. He done some slight grappling every now and again, but he isn't a takedown artist. How does he even get in close to go for it? Goes he literally just cuddle Jones? Does ANYONE try and get close to one of the best boxers of all time?

It depends on what you mean grappling. If you're talking going for a triangle, then it's better to avoid it. Grapple defence if important as fuck in a street fight, because you don't want to get dumped on your head. But you don't want to shoot in for a takedown because the chances of going head first into the concrete is HUGE.

Haha yeah street fights usually end with one dude throwing a punch the other dude doesn't expect.

[...the Nagger]

Roy Jones won 18 belts, Bruce lee won 0

[...the Nagger]

HE never competed in tournaments here but he did tons of exhibitions. not to mention he would have the edge in every aspect on jones ACCEPT size which is pretty irrelevant

exhibitions mean what?

and no he wouldn't

you can't show anything to back that up

[EtH]

go find it yourself its called the internet dumb ass

you do realise that back then not every one had iphoens and shit right/

also he won amateur boxing championships in hong kong

not to mention it was said that jeet kun do has the fastest hands out of all fighting styles. didnt say speed couldnt be trained but there obviously trained more

also you do realise back then you had to do exhibitions and shit at martial art exhibits for your art? or do you think he could just say hey im bruce lee i am creating a new style and they said BOOM U WIN AND U GOT IT

I could show you proof of fighters from before Lee fighting.

It is said, but it is said by Lee fans. I don't really think you can say any martial art is faster than others, because it's all comes down to the person demonstrating it.

Why is there not really ANY video taped exhibition of Lee then? And yes, you can just make up a martial art on your own with no merit. Check ANY of the no touch knockout guys.

[God Of War]

Bruce Lee has NO experience in wrestling. He done some slight grappling every now and again, but he isn't a takedown artist. How does he even get in close to go for it? Goes he literally just cuddle Jones? Does ANYONE try and get close to one of the best boxers of all time?

It depends on what you mean grappling. If you're talking going for a triangle, then it's better to avoid it. Grapple defence if important as fuck in a street fight, because you don't want to get dumped on your head. But you don't want to shoot in for a takedown because the chances of going head first into the concrete is HUGE.

Haha yeah street fights usually end with one dude throwing a punch the other dude doesn't expect.

thats absurd yet again, bruce lee has more grappling experieince then jones. jones can throw a punch so can alot of dudes, he can throw fast punches so can alot of dudes. theres tons of fighters out there right now that would break roy jones to pieces without it being a boxing match

also steven segal would fucking rape roy jones so why does this shit even need to mention bruce lee

[...the Nagger]

Bruce Lee has speep

skill is up for debate but I think the Professional Boxer has more skill than the person who never really fought for real

which brings you to experience

all of those are important in fighting. not just pretty moves against no one

you see lee on a bag, you laugh out loud

he got the kicks tho, I give him that

but with him having no guard with his hands (i've seen it before) he runs the risk of dying, forget about winning for a minute

[God Of War]

so etH your saying he didnt beat wong j man either?

all these accounts from well known sources saying bruce lee bashed people is fake?

[super pimp trillionaire]

cause segal is alive and roy would duck like donald

[God Of War]

eddie you do realise that a big part of bruce lee's style had to do with evading and blocking punches right?>

[...the Nagger]

thats absurd yet again, bruce lee has more grappling experieince then jones. jones can throw a punch so can alot of dudes, he can throw fast punches so can alot of dudes. theres tons of fighters out there right now that would break roy jones to pieces without it being a boxing match

also steven segal would fucking rape roy jones so why does this shit even need to mention bruce lee

lol @ so can a lot of dudes

thats why he basically started 50-0 in one of the greatest eras of boxing

keep discrediting his hands, it makes u look knowledgable (not really)

and we're talkin prime roy obv, not roy today

even tho roy today would still body most them fools

[uh-oh]

judo gene labell choked out steven seagal and made him shit on himself.

just a random rumor/fact that circulates the internet.

[God Of War]

lol @ so can a lot of dudes

thats why he basically started 50-0 in one of the greatest eras of boxing

keep discrediting his hands, it makes u look knowledgable (not really)

and we're talkin prime roy obv, not roy today

even tho roy today would still body most them fools

roy was good in ONE ring in ONE sense

thats it


as i said people liek steven segal and shit would body roy jones and have him drooling out his mouth

[...the Nagger]

roy was good in ONE ring in ONE sense

thats it


as i said people liek steven segal and shit would body roy jones and have him drooling out his mouth

based off what? cuz he knew karate

only little kids think karate owns everything

I have punched black belts in the face before. I have beat one before in particular, and I ain't even an amateur boxer

you learn an awfuly lot more than throwing a jab when you take up boxing too ya know

i could only imagine the tricks a HOF like Roy knows

experience in fighting is the greatest advantage to have

[God Of War]

based off what? cuz he knew karate

only little kids think karate owns everything

I have punched black belts in the face before. I have beat one before in particular, and I ain't even an amateur boxer

you learn an awfuly lot more than throwing a jab when you take up boxing too ya know

i could only imagine the tricks a HOF like Roy knows

experience in fighting is the greatest advantage to have

only in a boxing ring with there rules could jones have a small chance of beating lee


boxers are dumb lmao

[...the Nagger]

only in a boxing ring with there rules could jones have a small chance of beating lee


boxers are dumb lmao

once again, you have nothing to back this up

"in a ring" I could say the same about that goofy box they stand in during competitions.

look at one sparrin session in a boxing gym with ppl training and then go look at a karate exhibition with ppl training

My best friend gave up one of those kwon do craps and took up boxing because he wanted to get more physical and actually fight

I know a lot of ppl who fight for a living, including ppl in my family who take up martial arts

You just seem like you watch movies and believe that ppl who do martial arts have super powers

who do you think rocky can beat?

[super pimp trillionaire]

obv clubber Lang, Ivan Drago... giants in the game
duh

[Fig]

Bruce lee fucked up chuck Norris

That is all

[God Of War]

once again, you have nothing to back this up

"in a ring" I could say the same about that goofy box they stand in during competitions.

look at one sparrin session in a boxing gym with ppl training and then go look at a karate exhibition with ppl training

My best friend gave up one of those kwon do craps and took up boxing because he wanted to get more physical and actually fight

I know a lot of ppl who fight for a living, including ppl in my family who take up martial arts

You just seem like you watch movies and believe that ppl who do martial arts have super powers

who do you think rocky can beat?

i know alot of fighters also, people who practice muay thai , people that have boxed for over 20 years that never amounted to shit but they still did it. ive met superfoot, simple because when iw as a kid i was obsessed with competiiton martial arts, never did it myself just thought it was fucking bad ass. i took boxing for a bit when i was an early teen never did anything or tried to or wanted to just wanted an activity to do but i get my knowledge from a good bit more then t.v.

[...the Nagger]

i know alot of fighters also, people who practice muay thai , people that have boxed for over 20 years that never amounted to shit but they still did it. ive met superfoot, simple because when iw as a kid i was obsessed with competiiton martial arts, never did it myself just thought it was fucking bad ass. i took boxing for a bit when i was an early teen never did anything or tried to or wanted to just wanted an activity to do but i get my knowledge from a good bit more then t.v.

so you should understand what I mean about exp

yea, most ppl amount to nothing, you're right.

but the ppl who go on to be 50-0 are legends

they do it for a reason

and I don't see any of the legends of our generation losing to a 130 lb martial artist who didn't actively fight. that would just be asinine

[detour]

Bruce lee would beat shit down Roy jones leg

[...the Nagger]

[insert "hey I logged on" pointless response to thread here]

[Meth]

Lol at this argument.

Bruce Lee would win.

[EtH]

Stephen Segal can kick Roy Jones Jr's ass? Lmao

I mean, you guys REALLY have to stop watching movies to get your opinion. I'm a huge martial arts movie fan, and I'm a martial artist myself, but you need to stop romancing the notion that just because Bruce Lee was an ass kicker in a movie, that he's the greatest fighter of all time. I seen someone posting a thread on a site saying Bruce Lee could beat any MMA fighter ever. Bruce Lee is fucking with Cain Velasquez, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva? He wouldn't even be allowed in the cage with those guys (not that he COULDNT have been better, just different training).

[EtH]

judo gene labell choked out steven seagal and made him shit on himself.

just a random rumor/fact that circulates the internet.

I seen a video on MMAForum of Seagal confirming it. Weird as fuck story.

[God Of War]

Stephen Segal can kick Roy Jones Jr's ass? Lmao

I mean, you guys REALLY have to stop watching movies to get your opinion. I'm a huge martial arts movie fan, and I'm a martial artist myself, but you need to stop romancing the notion that just because Bruce Lee was an ass kicker in a movie, that he's the greatest fighter of all time. I seen someone posting a thread on a site saying Bruce Lee could beat any MMA fighter ever. Bruce Lee is fucking with Cain Velasquez, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva? He wouldn't even be allowed in the cage with those guys (not that he COULD have been better, just different training).

i could tell you think your a martial artist u know why? because you think you know every fucking thing.

[EtH]

i could tell you think your a martial artist u know why? because you think you know every fucking thing.

No martial artist knows everything. I'm a green belt in my first martial art. A long long way to go.

I just think you guys are being taken in by stories about Bruce Lee and his popularity. No bad word can be said about Bruce Lee, even though his entire "best fighter in the world" legacy is based on movies, stories and demonstrations.

He might well have been as good as people think, but because it's "think", you can't draw everything down to that.

The idea that Bruce Lee was an elite grappler is ridiculous also. Bruce Lee never actually trained grappling, he played around with it (based on what I read anyways). Sure that's a bit more than Jones Jr. did, but it's not enough to think Bruce Lee could have shot in for a TD, grappled Jones up against a car door and then landed a throw. The idea that Bruce Lee tries to grapple with a world champion (light)heavyweight boxer is ridiculous. I swear people think Bruce Lee would gogoplata Magalhaes in 3 seconds.

[...the Nagger]

No martial artist knows everything. I'm a green belt in my first martial art. A long long way to go.

I just think you guys are being taken in by stories about Bruce Lee and his popularity. No bad word can be said about Bruce Lee, even though his entire "best fighter in the world" legacy is based on movies, stories and demonstrations.

He might well have been as good as people think, but because it's "think", you can't draw everything down to that.

The idea that Bruce Lee was an elite grappler is ridiculous also. Bruce Lee never actually trained grappling, he played around with it (based on what I read anyways). Sure that's a bit more than Jones Jr. did, but it's not enough to think Bruce Lee could have shot in for a TD, grappled Jones up against a car door and then landed a throw. The idea that Bruce Lee tries to grapple with a world champion (light)heavyweight boxer is ridiculous. I swear people think Bruce Lee would gogoplata Magalhaes in 3 seconds.

for real, they're acting like little kids lol

now if we were talkin Bruce Leroy......

[super pimp trillionaire]

ha ha bruce leroy good joke.!!!
(is it done?)
cause nobody said all that other shit.
you want a fucking opinion? cause thats ALL ANYONE CAN GIVE YOU.
until you go down the frankenhole, we will never know cause the niggas dead.
put ya tits away, and go hug ya roy jones skin tone body pillow until you calm down.
bring back my friend the munster. dont make me call intervention on you

[detour]

Bruce lee damn near invented the idea of mixed martial arts in the modern world...he fought in mixed martial arts full contact competitions...dude would likely beat the fuck out of all those dudes y'all listed...

but remember also that cain valasquez an all them are in way higher weight classes than Bruce lee...he weighed less than 150 lbs if I remember correctly...anyone sayin Bruce lee was just a movie martial artist obviously knows NOTHIN about the man or his history as both a martial artist an a fighter...

Bruce lee would smash Roy jones, an all ur favorite mixed martial artists...he basically invented the sport they train in an his training methods were not only up to par with what kats do nowadays but were arguable tougher an more demanding...

kats always wanna discredit the legends of the past like "oh but we do it so much better nowadays" but that's bullshit...how ignorant u gotta be to believe that shit?

NOT TO MENTION there's quite a bit of martial arts techniques that are illegal in mma fighting today...small joint manipulation an pressure point strikes for instance...UFC likes to pretend they have proven traditional martial arts can't compare but they did that by banning many of the techniques that a traditional martial artist would use...

that's like putting a kick boxer in a professional boxing match an sayin u proved boxing is better when he loses...of course he lost, he couldn't kick or knee or elbow or throw...

the UFC an mma as a whole is a slap in the face of martial arts an is far more about pushing an Americanized agenda that Dana white can make money off of than it is about developing the effectiveness of martial arts training...do ur research before u log on netcees an start talkin out ur ass...

[detour]

yeah an all those joint submissions u guys sayin bruce lee wasn't an expert in (which he was far better with than u give him credit for) are null an void if ur allowed to use wrist an finger locks...

they go for an arm bar, bruce breaks his finger...fight over lol...smh I love watchin american mma fans cling to a desperately misguided hope that they actually are better at martial arts fighting knowledge cuz of 20 years of UFC than the Asian cultures that spent hmmmm, I dunno, thousands of years developing their shit in real wartime combat situations...

western arrogance at it's finest...

[EtH]

Completely agree with the finger breaking thing. That's basically the fundamentals of martial arts these days because so many crusade against MMA lol.

Bruce Lee wouldn't beat the likes of Anderson Silva though. The majority of MMA fighters did martial arts, and mastered their style long before they ever joined an MMA class. We're only just started to get into the generation where guys looked up to Royce Gracie etc. growing up, as guys like Belfort etc. were probably already martial arts experts before Gracie even won UFC 1. Anderson is not only a master of the stand up game, with I think Tae Kwon Do, Capoeira, Judo, Muay Thai and maybe more mastered, he is also a high level BJJ fighter along with all round training in MMA. Although not the best, you can't also deny that he was a professional boxer too, and I'm not 100% sure, but he may also have been a Vale Tudo fighter, which is no rules combat. With 39 professional fights, and however many unprofessional (he WAS a member of Chute Boxe after all), I think you can also give an experience edge to Anderson also. Mix that with reach and size advantages, I think saying that Bruce Lee can beat ANY MMA fighter is completely nullified on paper right there.

[PancakeBrah]

lol @ this even being a debate.

Roy Jones would murder Bruce Lee. Literally murder him.

[Dope girl]

Awesome!

[Split]

how so @gow?

Bruce Lee wasn't a fighter.

Roy jones beat 50 FREAKIN PPL IN A ROW SON, GROWN MEN, WITHOUT GETTIN TOUCHED

Roy Jones, would without question, wash Bruce Lee

Bruce Lee grew up street fighting in Hong Kong. he then moved on to train with a martial arts master who revolutionized the art. he then dominated International Karate Championships

Bruce Lee would break Roy Jones into smithereens

[God Of War]

No martial artist knows everything. I'm a green belt in my first martial art. A long long way to go.

I just think you guys are being taken in by stories about Bruce Lee and his popularity. No bad word can be said about Bruce Lee, even though his entire "best fighter in the world" legacy is based on movies, stories and demonstrations.

He might well have been as good as people think, but because it's "think", you can't draw everything down to that.

The idea that Bruce Lee was an elite grappler is ridiculous also. Bruce Lee never actually trained grappling, he played around with it (based on what I read anyways). Sure that's a bit more than Jones Jr. did, but it's not enough to think Bruce Lee could have shot in for a TD, grappled Jones up against a car door and then landed a throw. The idea that Bruce Lee tries to grapple with a world champion (light)heavyweight boxer is ridiculous. I swear people think Bruce Lee would gogoplata Magalhaes in 3 seconds.



his entire world was not based on movies, u have some of the best fighters ever that will tell you that bruce lee was a fucking monsster, why are they liars? they was there dude. plus i read and investigate shit i always have

chuck norris said this

However, many today don’t realize he never competed professionally. If he had, I believe he would have been a world champion.


he also said he wasnt the fastest man he ever seen and was insanely strong for his size

[Beyond]

Hate these arguments. I remember one on the old NC.

roflz @ Detour. Never taking anything serious from him ever again (not that I did before).

Pretty much any UFC fighter would wax the movie actor that was Bruce Lee.

Roy Jones is a bit different, tbh, because he doesn't train in kicks/defending kicks, etc. That'd be a harder fight against Lee than people who train Mixed Martial Arts every day.

I'd say in a boxing ring boxing rules (no kicks, just punches) Roy Jones by massacre. But it's too unpredictable otherwise. He does have massive size/reach etc advantage, though. And ridiculous hand speed, reflexes, defense as well.

[Wise Wiggles]

Lee started mma idiots.

He also invented the untelegraphed punch.
he was well versed in western boxing and fencing so he knew to stay out of your critical distance.

But honestly. Bruce is way too dead defend himself against any punch.

[...the Nagger]

he then dominated International Karate Championships


ummmm... no he didn't??

and he grew up in San Fransisco

[...the Nagger]

Hate these arguments. I remember one on the old NC.

roflz @ Detour. Never taking anything serious from him ever again (not that I did before).

Pretty much any UFC fighter would wax the movie actor that was Bruce Lee.

Roy Jones is a bit different, tbh, because he doesn't train in kicks/defending kicks, etc. That'd be a harder fight against Lee than people who train Mixed Martial Arts every day.

I'd say in a boxing ring boxing rules (no kicks, just punches) Roy Jones by massacre. But it's too unpredictable otherwise. He does have massive size/reach etc advantage, though. And ridiculous hand speed, reflexes, defense as well.

I can accept this answer, because it involved you using common sense

[...the Nagger]

funny

I googled "Bruce Lee dominates international tournaments" to see what came up and this was the first link

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=258854&page=4

[...the Nagger]

and then the videos of these "tournaments" is dude shadow boxing and stuff

like, not fighting

[God Of War]

eddie what i find funny is you go around what the real cats say like whys ways. a dude who obviously knows what he is talking bout probably more then you do ont he subject because he hits with facts, yet you focus on shit like split said,


beyond has no idea what he is talking bout lool beyond you my dude but you clearly are going by opinion and not knowing what bruce lee done or etc. who would win is all opinion but your theory is based on no facts period

[...the Nagger]

eddie what i find funny is you go around what the real cats say like whys ways. a dude who obviously knows what he is talking bout probably more then you do ont he subject because he hits with facts, yet you focus on shit like split said,


beyond has no idea what he is talking bout lool beyond you my dude but you clearly are going by opinion and not knowing what bruce lee done or etc. who would win is all opinion but your theory is based on no facts period

gow you have a problem debating (just from observing you over the years)

ww said somebody that lee taught teaches karate in the military


I didn't go around him at all and responded to every one of his posts until he left the thread forever proving nothing

my point is, that has nothing to do with Roy Jones Jr washing Bruce Lee if he were alive

also, if you click on the link I posted, you will see plenty of ppl LAUGHING at the question presented (would bruce lee have dominated MMA today?)

a lot of them are convinced that midtier fighters would have thrashed him in his natural weight class and some are also confused as to why some of their members on that board think otherwise

[...the Nagger]

and then also God Of War when you have ppl who just drop in and say stuff like

BRUCE LEE WOULD KILL HIM

it makes it really easy to not respond to everything

BRUCE LEE OWNED INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENTS

no he didn't

its hard to definitively respond to every post when you have ppl trolling and making stuff up

[...the Nagger]

and apparently since ppl aren't getting taught how to fight like Roy Jones that means something?

you can't teach the military to box like Roy dog, or any other hof

but you can teach them karate, the father-style of self-defense

thats why I say you guys lack common sense sometimes. this stuff is a mixture of knowledge/common sense

Roy Jones Jr, nor his trainer, nor anyone he may train down the future, will be teaching boxing in the military. that's common sense

[Rawn M.D.]

yo Srs Bruce would beast Roy...

like i dont even think itd b a fight really..

hand to hand...Bruce takes it

throw in kicks n holds...he dominates...

and I like Roy Jones as a boxer

[Joe Metts]

So what if he invented the sport.

James Naismith would get destroyed by Earl Boykins.

Id tear Milton and Bradley up in a game of Sorry.

Things evolve.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Milton and bradley, roftf

[Split]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/d9eb44a4e794a10674d2f04610bb505a/tumblr_mguhnvoByV1rd2ff1o3_400.jpg

[Witty]

Dunno if its been asked but are we talking boxing here or what?

Or just like, if they threw hands in a bar?

Cuz if so, Lars would win.

Really though...what sort of fight?

[Meth]

Just like they met in an alley and decided to throw

[...the Nagger]

imagin roy givin that fool overhand rights

while he's tryna get close and set up for a 3 in punch

[...the Nagger]

seriously, the question should be whether Roy would kill him or not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIPAvP-dAFs

[Witty]

Ehhh.

I'd probably lean towards Roy Jones for that tbh.

One punch.

[...the Nagger]

man I'm still tryna find that one clip where Roy punched the dude so fast he was on the ground like

http://imageshack.us/a/img151/4940/scaledphpserver705filen.png

J. Metts might know what I'm talmbout

[super pimp trillionaire]

Cute babies will not win you this argument.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Reminds me of the snl Ditka skit...
Roy jones junior vs god...
But roy jones junior is blindfolded -to make it more fair...

[PancakeBrah]

Just to reiterate, Roy Jones would kill Bruce Lee dead.

[God Of War]

eddie you act like roy could do more then punch, thats it thats all he can do.. he can hit fast. bruce lee could hit fast and hard.

[PancakeBrah]

eddie you act like roy could do more then punch, thats it thats all he can do.. he can hit fast. bruce lee could hit fast and hard.


Literally one of the worst arguments I've read on the internet.

Bruce Lee is a fabrication of space and time and asians. He is 50% aura, 40% myth, and 10% Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

Roy Jones fought for a living and was one of the better boxers in history. Bruce Lee made movies. He is an action figure. His kung-fu grip is all puppetry.

[Boredom]

munster your sounding daf right now tbh..

it's like putting a boxer against an mma fighter.... what happened when that went down? exactly..

bruce lee is much more diverse and fluent in fighting than a boxer is

bruce lee has an EXPANSIVE background in martial arts where as a boxer is trained only in one specific style.. i.e boxing.

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[God Of War]

Literally one of the worst arguments I've read on the internet.

Bruce Lee is a fabrication of space and time and asians. He is 50% aura, 40% myth, and 10% Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

Roy Jones fought for a living and was one of the better boxers in history. Bruce Lee made movies. He is an action figure. His kung-fu grip is all puppetry.

so what 100 legends of martial arts says is false?

some of th ebest ever says bruce lee was a bad ass dude

but i guess there false? why because you can pick up a bar bell? gtfo of here with that.

[Wise Wiggles]

No, because he protected his tootsie rolls against vagrant forces.. Now he's end all, know all.

[PancakeBrah]

GoW that is an ad hominem and would be thrown out of any formal debate.

[God Of War]

GoW that is an ad hominem and would be thrown out of any formal debate.


any thing in this thread is simply speculation as to who would win. but as far as ability it isnt

plus this arguement is as dumb as the jordan/bryant arguement or even worse the text worlds shortbar /longbar arguement

its all personal opinion.

[PancakeBrah]

Jordan/Kobe isn't an argument.

[Meth]

Jordan/Kobe isn't an argument.

^ That, though.

[God Of War]

Jordan/Kobe isn't an argument.

you wouldnt believe how many people think kobe is as good/better then jordan

[PancakeBrah]

Oh I know they're out there. I try not to associate with them.

[God Of War]

me either, but every time im on a basketball forum or a basketball page on facebook theres a few dudes who try to bring up that arguement and it ends up going for 100 comments cuz people are retarded as shit lmao

[Meth]

Cake's sig. Wow. I remember when I saw that play the first time... And just being stunned at the ability to do that.

[PancakeBrah]

Kobe fans are some of the most adamant people on the planet. It gets ridiculous.

[Meth]

I consider myself a fan of Kobe. I enjoy watching him play and his demeanor, but in no way would I ever say he is better than Mike. That's just ridiculous.

[God Of War]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/367827ad4ee4a9988fb40c55a9e61395/tumblr_mny2gwKZVs1rfimo0o3_400.gif


a bad fucking dude thats for sure

[Beyond]

eddie what i find funny is you go around what the real cats say like whys ways. a dude who obviously knows what he is talking bout probably more then you do ont he subject because he hits with facts, yet you focus on shit like split said,


beyond has no idea what he is talking bout lool beyond you my dude but you clearly are going by opinion and not knowing what bruce lee done or etc. who would win is all opinion but your theory is based on no facts period

I'm not even going to read the rest of the replies where I left off, just going to go in on this one as it's complete hogwash on the level of the whole 'Kreayshawn sounds like creation' fiasco.

Whys Ways is the furthest thing from real you can get. ill nik-A will cosign me on that.

Him and you have absolutely no idea what you are typing about whatsoever.

Whys Ways did not lay out a single fact in this thread. Not a one.

I'm going off of pure facts and facts alone.

Bruce Lee has not done anything but made movies.

roflz @ my post not being based on any facts. It's based off the fact that Bruce Lee was not a grappler and MMA fighters today train in grappling. He'd just get taken down and pounded out or submitted ala every legendary boxer/striker that tries MMA.

I didn't even say Roy Jones would beat Bruce Lee. I just said Lee would lose to most MMA fighters because he would. A boxer would be a more favorable match up for him though, obviously. That's just common sense.

You aren't doing anything in this thread but looking like a kid who still believes in Santa Claus. He don't exist, man. It's just hype. He was never this unbeatable fighter or anything. He ducked plenty of actual great fighters in his day. Do your research next time instead of approaching your betters on this subject.

[ill nik-A]

Oh shizznizzo

[oats]

I'm a Kobe fan, and think he's attained the closest position behind MJ that anyone can claim thus far, but yeah, nobody touches Mike.

[EtH]

Lee started mma idiots.

He also invented the untelegraphed punch.
he was well versed in western boxing and fencing so he knew to stay out of your critical distance.

But honestly. Bruce is way too dead defend himself against any punch.

No he didn't. The idea of mixing martial arts together is the sole philosophy of martial arts, and martial arts competing against different martial arts have happened almost since their existence.

"Well versed". Well, Roy Jones Jr, once of the greatest ever, was a little bit better than "well versed". Also, he knew how to stay out of distance. So does every one of Klitschko's opponents.

[uh-oh]

the more i think about it the more i lean in roy jones' favor

[Geno]

Man. Bruce lee the god. Untouchable in a one on one. In or around his weight class at least. Roy would get the buisiness

[Geno]

But yo, kobe the god tho oats

[oats]

"If I ain't better than Mike, then I'm the closest one."

Kobe the HOV to MJ's Biggie.

[uh-oh]

i hate kobe

but from a realistic standpoint

jordan>kobe

10 years from now?

LEBRON>JORDAN>KOBE>KARL MALONE DA UNDERRATED MAILMANGOD

[oats]

Lebron will end his career with 4 rings tops. You heard it here first.

[EtH]

I HATE basketball, but those GIFs are OUTSTANDING.

[God Of War]

I'm not even going to read the rest of the replies where I left off, just going to go in on this one as it's complete hogwash on the level of the whole 'Kreayshawn sounds like creation' fiasco.

Whys Ways is the furthest thing from real you can get. ill nik-A will cosign me on that.

Him and you have absolutely no idea what you are typing about whatsoever.

Whys Ways did not lay out a single fact in this thread. Not a one.

I'm going off of pure facts and facts alone.

Bruce Lee has not done anything but made movies.

roflz @ my post not being based on any facts. It's based off the fact that Bruce Lee was not a grappler and MMA fighters today train in grappling. He'd just get taken down and pounded out or submitted ala every legendary boxer/striker that tries MMA.

I didn't even say Roy Jones would beat Bruce Lee. I just said Lee would lose to most MMA fighters because he would. A boxer would be a more favorable match up for him though, obviously. That's just common sense.

You aren't doing anything in this thread but looking like a kid who still believes in Santa Claus. He don't exist, man. It's just hype. He was never this unbeatable fighter or anything. He ducked plenty of actual great fighters in his day. Do your research next time instead of approaching your betters on this subject.



thats absurd, i can quote almost a 100 martial art legends saying bruce lee was the real deal. u cant prove nathan you said bro. jeet kun do is a mixed fighting style to be exact

yall need to get ur facts straight and actually research.

[VividEnds]

If u think modern martial artists aren't trained in grappling, ur a fool

[EtH]

^This. Martial arts today actually teach 'counter MMA', as a way to feel that they have "one upped" the new sport (although, when you've got an elite grappler/wrestler, who is also a professional athlete, it's a different story all together).

[Wise Wiggles]

If you know how to break small joints its all good.

[EtH]

If you know how to break small joints its all good.

I would love to see a fight take place with small joint locks involved. I train them, but at my level it's just "building blocks". We learn the techniques in a broken up way, so that by the time we reach black belt, we'll be ready to put everything together in a fluid movement. I've seen the black belts using the moves at a seminar, two 3rd Dans as well, but again it was still controlled sparring. I'd like to see how effective they really are when the fight comes up.

[Beyond]

i hate kobe

but from a realistic standpoint

jordan>kobe

10 years from now?

LEBRON>JORDAN>KOBE>KARL MALONE DA UNDERRATED MAILMANGOD

LeBronze is already disqualified for the 2011 finals. Doubt he wins this year without Stern's help.

[Cakedout]

I think Bruce lee would lose, You can't believe what a television shows you. They make it seem like ppl who know kung-fu are the smartest & best fighters. Remember it only takes 1 punch to lead to a knock out.

[God Of War]

are you pancake brah if your not your name is misleading and there for it should be changed

[Cakedout]

I would love to see a fight take place with small joint locks involved. I train them, but at my level it's just "building blocks". We learn the techniques in a broken up way, so that by the time we reach black belt, we'll be ready to put everything together in a fluid movement. I've seen the black belts using the moves at a seminar, two 3rd Dans as well, but again it was still controlled sparring. I'd like to see how effective they really are when the fight comes up.

boring

[Beyond]

I think Bruce lee would lose, You can't believe what a television shows you. They make it seem like ppl who know kung-fu are the smartest & best fighters. Remember it only takes 1 punch to lead to a knock out.

Pretty much.

There's a reason no one's done well with Bruce Lee's martial art in MMA.

In fact, very few have done well with traditional kung fu/Karate/etc.

Only 2 in the sport of MMA that come close are Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida, and Silva is Muay Thai which transitions a lot better than the others.

A more interesting match up would be Ando vs Bruce Lee. Now that fight I think Ando wins 100 times out of 100.

[Cakedout]

i hate kobe

but from a realistic standpoint

jordan>kobe

10 years from now?

LEBRON>JORDAN>KOBE>KARL MALONE DA UNDERRATED MAILMANGOD

Pardon me, But did you just say Jordan > Kobe? Oh I get it, it's all a big joke because you also put Lebron in the same sentence with not only M.j but Kobe.Well I have news for you buddy, You think Jordan got on the phone with Larry and magic back in the day discussing to team up? Nooooo and that's why he will always be considered better than lebron.

[Cakedout]

Pretty much.

There's a reason no one's done well with Bruce Lee's martial art in MMA.

In fact, very few have done well with traditional kung fu/Karate/etc.

Only 2 in the sport of MMA that come close are Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida, and Silva is Muay Thai which transitions a lot better than the others.

A more interesting match up would be Ando vs Bruce Lee. Now that fight I think Ando wins 100 times out of 100.
You don't say, The commander Ando. What about a lil Jet Li vs Bruce lee action?

[Beyond]

I could care less who would win out of those two.

Battle of the overrated movie actors.

Throw in Jackie Chan and Tony Jaa for a fatal four way, WWE style.

[God Of War]

beyond you should do a bit of research

jet li actuall won a good amount of things when he was young

[Fart]

Movie actors? lol Bruce wasn't an active fighter?
lol what?!? must be troll

[Beyond]

God Of War

So did Joe Rogan.

Don't mean either one could compete with the likes of Anderson Silva or George St. Pierre.

[super pimp trillionaire]

ngga MMA didnt exist when Lee was sonnin niggas.
Neither was BOXING anything like the shit we know now.
the question is if instead of being a father to the style suppose Bruce had the advantage of jumping off the shoulders of people like Bruce Lee.

you want to time displace someone.

If you say Bruce at his prime without time displacement then Jones is a non-issue 4 year old. vice versa Bruce is 20-30 years too dead to matter.

stupid right? just as stupid as saying Bruce at his nastiest versus other people at their nastiest who were probably taught by people who were trained by people who were trained by Bruce Lee, and refusing to recognize what you're really looking at. admit it and I'll play time travel make believe time with you. But the nigga is not just famous for saying woooaaaaah. Trainers create trainers, some people in this thread understand that they benefit from Bruce's teachings
kinda like me, ya hero's idol's teacher


aight ya boy is nasty, but he's from a different time.
if your time machine dumped Roy in a sandlot where Bruce was meditating
and God commanded them both to scrap.
Roy is not winning.

BUT ALSO
on the other hand if the time machine dumped Bruce in the middle of a cook-out or whatever junior does to relax... and God said Get em! Roy is not winning.

plus, by 33 bruce was super retired, by 33 roy was absolutely no comparison...

ray used to pay to smack roy around

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=sugar+ray+leonard+bruce+lee&view=detail&mid=9EE779081619385D31649EE779081619385D3164&first=0&FORM=NVPFVR


oh and heres something I didnt know...
Lee was trained in Wu Tai Chi Chuan (also known as Ng-ga) and Jing Mo Tam Tui for the twelve sets. Lee was trained in the martial arts Choy Li Fut, Western Boxing, Épée fencing, Judo, Praying Mantis Kung-fu, Hsing-I, and Jujitsu.
When Bruce arrived in the US he (already) had training in Wu Style Tai Chi, sometimes in Hong Kong called Ng-ga. And he had of course training in western boxing. He had training in fencing from his brother, that's Epee, that goes from toe to head. He had training obviously in Wing Chun. And the other area was the training he had received in Buk Pie, or Tam Toi, he was twelve sets in Tam Toi. And I believe he had traded with a Choy Li Fut man.
—Danny Inosanto
Lee, Linda (1989). The Bruce Lee Story. United States: Ohara Publications. ISBN 0-89750-121-7.
and don't forget this.
http://www.proboxing-fans.com/the-legacy-of-bruce-lee-and-jeet-kune-do-in-the-worlds-of-boxing-and-mma_040811/

lmao at this interview dude fuckin up @1:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgQ4h4snjSI


bruce a mop roy if he wanted to, and if we had a time machine and God was a stoned college douche and made them fight

[God Of War]

ngga MMA didnt exist when Lee was sonnin niggas.
Neither was BOXING anything like the shit we know now.
the question is if instead of being a father to the style suppose Bruce had the advantage of jumping off the shoulders of people like Bruce Lee.

you want to time displace someone.

If you say Bruce at his prime without time displacement then Jones is a non-issue 4 year old. vice versa Bruce is 20-30 years too dead to matter.

stupid right? just as stupid as saying Bruce at his nastiest versus other people at their nastiest who were probably taught by people who were trained by people who were trained by Bruce Lee, and refusing to recognize what you're really looking at. admit it and I'll play time travel make believe time with you. But the nigga is not just famous for saying woooaaaaah. Trainers create trainers, some people in this thread understand that they benefit from Bruce's teachings
kinda like me, ya hero's idol's teacher


aight ya boy is nasty, but he's from a different time.
if your time machine dumped Roy in a sandlot where Bruce was meditating
and God commanded them both to scrap.
Roy is not winning.

BUT ALSO
on the other hand if the time machine dumped Bruce in the middle of a cook-out or whatever junior does to relax... and God said Get em! Roy is not winning.

plus, by 33 bruce was super retired, by 33 roy was absolutely no comparison...

ray used to pay to smack roy around

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=sugar+ray+leonard+bruce+lee&view=detail&mid=9EE779081619385D31649EE779081619385D3164&first=0&FORM=NVPFVR


oh and heres something I didnt know...
Lee was trained in Wu Tai Chi Chuan (also known as Ng-ga) and Jing Mo Tam Tui for the twelve sets. Lee was trained in the martial arts Choy Li Fut, Western Boxing, Épée fencing, Judo, Praying Mantis Kung-fu, Hsing-I, and Jujitsu.
When Bruce arrived in the US he (already) had training in Wu Style Tai Chi, sometimes in Hong Kong called Ng-ga. And he had of course training in western boxing. He had training in fencing from his brother, that's Epee, that goes from toe to head. He had training obviously in Wing Chun. And the other area was the training he had received in Buk Pie, or Tam Toi, he was twelve sets in Tam Toi. And I believe he had traded with a Choy Li Fut man.
—Danny Inosanto
Lee, Linda (1989). The Bruce Lee Story. United States: Ohara Publications. ISBN 0-89750-121-7.
and don't forget this.
http://www.proboxing-fans.com/the-legacy-of-bruce-lee-and-jeet-kune-do-in-the-worlds-of-boxing-and-mma_040811/

lmao at this interview dude fuckin up @1:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgQ4h4snjSI


bruce a mop roy if he wanted to, and if we had a time machine and God was a stoned college douche and made them fight



damn naq just SHUT the thread down