a 4 yr old boy who plays with little girls toys..

[Geno]

..is that normal, or nah?

Cause I met this chick the other night, her son has dora the damn explorer. The littlemermaid and all different kinds of girls toys. Wtf @ the selection I saw. And of course the mom puts it off on him, but maybe she had more to do with it than she let on -rite? I mean I don't know yo.

Thoughts?

[Meth]

I don't think it's a huge deal.

I think trying to get him off of them would be good, and if he refuses any "boy" toys or to give up the "girl" toys than you may want to revisit the problem later.

[veritas]

I would not have him continue in it.....or elst effiminate later.

[Boredom]

VERITAS

[Geno]

You might be right, but still, when I was four dog, I wanted to be he-man and shit, not fucking my little pony. I had the damn toys, the sword and shit. I was he man for real. This lil niggah is a red headed irish boy running around with dora in his hands, and little purple dora scarfs on his neck. Iono. Ill let it slide for now, maybe mom pushed his attention the wrong way to though. Right? Like I mean, single mom. Only child is a boy, mom likes dora right? Fuck it. Its late, I dnt even know why this shit just crossed my mind lol

[Rawn M.D.]

does this boy have an older sister?
just read the above post...first off why tf is mom purchasing female toys..or is she being gifted them?
and i agree w Veritas. VERITAS at what age does the genital and phalic phase begin again?
i think the prior is around that age...he houldstart identifying w male figures...esp w a single mom imo.

[Dominate]

He's four.

Unless the mum is actually pushing these kinds of toys on him I don't see a problem, - let him play with w/e the fuck toys he wants to. It doesn't make him "pre-gay"

I got a cousin that's 15 now I think, when she was like 8-10 she was theeee biggest tomboy. She was never into barbies and my little pony and all that. Used to play with like GI Joe and lego and shit. She dressed up in superman costumes lol. Now she's past puberty and she's a very girly girl. It's just phases kids go through. it means shit for what they're gonna do later in life

[Meth]

Was basically getting at what Dom said, tbc.

[Dominate]

Was basically getting at what Dom said, tbc.

Been meaning to work this out for the longest. WTF is "tbc"?

[Meth]

to be clear.

[Dominate]

thanks

[Rawn M.D.]

i thought it was 2 b certain...anyways

girls exhibit tom boy behavior, especially if they have older or similiar aged male syblings...then males showing effiminant behavior and later deviating from that behavior as females do.

genetically speaking xy is a mutation (or recessive - depending how u look at it) of an x chromosome...and estrogen is present in both males n femles while testosterone is not produced to the same degree if sexual activity is at normal lvls

clarify: females have more estrogen, yes but males produce like 20x testosterone of females.

[Dominate]

Well, that was just something from my experience, but I'm guessing I could google this shit and find dozens of parents who had a boy that played with girl toys and turned out fine

[Rawn M.D.]

im sure, everything is truely bio-psycho-social

[NYCSPITZ]

The youth may very possibly turn into a fagget. Super glue him to a chair and put him through countless dragon ball z marathons to cure this faggetry.

[Meth]

DBZ is dope though. For real.

[NYCSPITZ]

^^^LOL word i can't wait until they dub the new movie looks flames tbreal

[Rawn M.D.]

i think i seen one dbz movie when i was like really mest up...lol...im like a generation above that whole dbz craze...

[God Of War]

a 4 year old don't gender relate toys. he/she sees a toy thinks its interesting and plays with it.

its really nothing to worry about.

[Rawn M.D.]

i think thats around the age where sexual identity begins @ gow...but like i said begins...and oppertive word is think cuz im not sure, thats why i tagged veritas with my question about phases.

[God Of War]

there sexual awareness begins like in there first year and by a couple years old they know if there a boy or girl or etc but it still doesnt mean they register that its not ok to play with certain toys then with others lol a toy is a toy to a child


Also I know they claim it does but i seen kids who played with every toy possible that didnt end up fucked up

[Rawn M.D.]

word ur right 97% of the time i say... still this particular situ is odd bc lil man is the only child...id understand more if he had like an older sister n those toys were handed down...but being the only child why is mom doing that to lil man...she like conducting an experiment or suttin'...shts just weird.

when i was 4 i was playin with teenage mutant ninja turtles, he-man swords n action figures and t-rex toys...my sister whose a yr n half younger then me had barbies and like betty boop dolls n sht...i played with mine, she played with hers, or i destroyed hers...i dont recall ever actively playing with her sht cept 4 destructive purposes...however my sister would play with my sht...same with clothing...i would NEVER wear her clothing, but she would like rock my shirts n sht...thats just the way it works.

[Strikta]

He'll be a Packer when he gets older, & it won't be in Green Bay my g.

[super pimp trillionaire]

a 4 year old don't gender relate toys. he/she sees a toy thinks its interesting and plays with it.

its really nothing to worry about.

lol @ dbz cures gayness...

kids will play with rocks and empty milk boxes...
they don't give a fuck.

if shorty exhibits feminine sexuality in other forms like an exaggerated switch when hes walking, or female mannerisms likely picked up from his mother then you can do like I would do and just hang out with moms more often around the kid. maybe he just doesnt know what a man is supposed to do. to be cautious I'd get what I want out of moms, and then barbeque in public with my fam-friendly niggas, to be clean, and show lil man what it is ta be manly, fire-grilled steaks, fat blunts, and beer. to be positive...

[God Of War]

lol @ dbz cures gayness...

kids will play with rocks and empty milk boxes...
they don't give a fuck.

if shorty exhibits feminine sexuality in other forms like an exaggerated switch when hes walking, or female mannerisms likely picked up from his mother then you can do like I would do and just hang out with moms more often around the kid. maybe he just doesnt know what a man is supposed to do. to be cautious I'd get what I want out of moms, and then barbeque in public with my fam-friendly niggas, to be clean, and show lil man what it is ta be manly, fire-grilled steaks, fat blunts, and beer. to be positive...

this is real shit lol

[Witty]

Me and my friends used to attach barbies to fireworks...it was a great fun. Although one day a dog ran over and lifted the firework in its mouth and everyone thought his face was gonna explode but I guess he sensed something was not right and dropped it before it went off.

The End.

P.S. - Is say give the kid a year or so, to see if he grows out of it, may just be a phase

[super pimp trillionaire]

yep,the old "ignore it until it gets better but if it gets worse in the meantime then at least nobody saw me talking to it so we can just deny knowledge of it" tactic... very good sir (not)

[Witty]

You're talking like there's a chance this will lead to him being a serial killer lol worst case scenario he turns out gay. No need to get all obsessive about the shit...let him be himself, young kids are the only people who can pretty much do whatever. the fuck they want, let him enjoy that shit.

[Rawn M.D.]

Genocide just by Lil man some g. I. Joes it's a win win... Kid benefits n mom's will appreciate ur interest n will reciprocate

[Rawn M.D.]

Serial killer or gay lineage i unno which is worse

[super pimp trillionaire]

some say that sexual confusion leads to much worse things than the original ailment suggests. Witty you can't cure gay away. with the subjects help it can be trained into hiding but you can't really cure out gayness, it's not a disease so much as an appetite...
hard to explain in simple sentences the varied opinions that lead to my beliefs...
but if sexual identity is genetic and independant of sexual organs, then none of us can say one is right and the other is wrong. I am not here to do that.

but in the case of exactly what I said when I said wtf I said, I am a hunnid percent correct bitch. some lil niggas just don't know how big niggas act. children learn from their environments and if momma doesnt have niggas around he aint gone see niggas to emuilate thus he acts like momma.
don't mean he wants dudes, just means he doesnt know how to act like anything else.
duh.

[Witty]

For sure, and you know much more than me on this subject, fuck do I know about kids lol So I'll concede to your argument.

Call me a bitch again tho

See what happen

DOOOO ITTTT

[veritas]

4-6 years......with a second cycle from 12-18 from my experience.

The point is this: if this effeminancy is not corrected it can make the boy a queer or at very least a sissy.

[God Of War]

4-6 years......with a second cycle from 12-18 from my experience.

The point is this: if this effeminancy is not corrected it can make the boy a queer or at very least a sissy.

so your saying toys can make a kid gay?

[Meth]

Nah dude.

Stop it.

For a kid, playing is playing, toys are toys.

Whether its with barbie and ken, dora, diego or the ninja turtles.

it doesnt matter.

Playing with Barbie ain't gonna make u think Ken's hot? lol wtf

[Split]

didn't read anything except title ur kids a homo

[...the Nagger]

its not a big deal

esp dora dog are you crazy?? she is ill for a little kid

[...the Nagger]

Nah dude.

Stop it.

For a kid, playing is playing, toys are toys.

Whether its with barbie and ken, dora, diego or the ninja turtles.

it doesnt matter.

Playing with Barbie ain't gonna make u think Ken's hot? lol wtf

lol

kids have imagination too he's gonna just imagine that its a chick from preschool that he doesn't like and go to WAR with her

[Objective]

You're talking like there's a chance this will lead to him being a serial killer lol worst case scenario he turns out gay. No need to get all obsessive about the shit...let him be himself, young kids are the only people who can pretty much do whatever. the fuck they want, let him enjoy that shit.

This motherfucker and that Dominate dude speaks the truth.

Not to mention, if ya'll try telling a kid to not do this'n'that and he/she doesn't understand wtf is going on most of the time the chances are bigger that they'll turn out to be nervous motherfuckers and self conscious as fuck later in their life. Which I believe often leads to a ''side-effect'' and reasons to why some kids gets experimental with both sexes throughout their teens. So; If you're a homophobe you're better off letting him play with that girly shit instead of raising the chances of him becoming an emo/goth with horrible self confidence cuz you were afraid he was gay at age 4.

Let the kids do whatever the fuck they want and figure out who they are without you questioning them like you don't love your kids unconditionally or some shit.

[...the Nagger]

My little cuz was obsessed with dora when he was 3-4

dog he be having gfs now and he's like 9 years old

it probably helped him

[veritas]

so your saying toys can make a kid gay?

I am saying that if it appears to be his natiral nature to be feminine is his likes you do not want to reinforce amd solidify that.

Simple.

[Objective]

I am saying that if it appears to be his natiral nature to be feminine is his likes you do not want to reinforce amd solidify that.

Simple.

That's fucking bullshit. It's worse trying to hide shit or take away toys from the kids cuz of your own insecurities. Kids will pick up on that which might help to undermine identity issues later in life. You being the therapist and all is giving terribad advice in this matter. You should probably read up a bit about psychology in children and/or stick to what you know.

Some kids that are feminine ''in nature'' is mostly just insecure about themselves and try to do shit the right way by being gentle and careful. Give them some fucking confidence and they start tearing shit up, play soccer with the other kids and peeing on toys. I've seen that kind of development with my own eyes.

[Chyeahhh!!!]

get that lil nigga some GI Joe's and let him watch The Expendables or something. If you come back in the room and see Hawk hitting Ariel from the back, then you'll know eything is good. Then go do the same thing to his mom *daps*

[veritas]

That's fucking bullshit. It's worse trying to hide shit or take away toys from the kids cuz of your own insecurities. Kids will pick up on that which might help to undermine identity issues later in life. You being the therapist and all is giving terribad advice in this matter. You should probably read up a bit about psychology in children and/or stick to what you know.

Some kids that are feminine ''in nature'' is mostly just insecure about themselves and try to do shit the right way by being gentle and careful. Give them some fucking confidence and they start tearing shit up, play soccer with the other kids and peeing on toys. I've seen that kind of development with my own eyes.

You are wrong.

[Split]

That's fucking bullshit. It's worse trying to hide shit or take away toys from the kids cuz of your own insecurities. Kids will pick up on that which might help to undermine identity issues later in life. You being the therapist and all is giving terribad advice in this matter. You should probably read up a bit about psychology in children and/or stick to what you know.

Some kids that are feminine ''in nature'' is mostly just insecure about themselves and try to do shit the right way by being gentle and careful. Give them some fucking confidence and they start tearing shit up, play soccer with the other kids and peeing on toys. I've seen that kind of development with my own eyes.

I'd agree with Veritas on this. Showing your kid what to do is parenting

[God Of War]

I'd agree with Veritas on this. Showing your kid what to do is parenting

lol no

guiding your child is parenting

[Split]

lol no

guiding your child is parenting

Obv meant the same thing...

[Mr. J]

get him an easy bake...

[Dominate]

Just so everyone is on the same page, can we confirm:

- does the kid play EXCLUSIVELY with girl toys, or does he play with both girl and boy toys indiscriminately?

And

- HOW does he play with his toys? I mean playing with a Dora the explorer if she's on a rescue mission or a treasure hunt or some shit is more manly than playing with a GI Joe if he's at a tea party


I think both of these Qs are very relevant

[Evolve]

when my son was 5 he picked up a barbie doll.....
















...she's now on maternity leave.

[Objective]

Obv meant the same thing...

Well, tell me how removing your kids toys because you think they're for faggots is guiding your child at all? That's taking choices for him and deciding how he shall live life, and what kind of stuff he's allowed to have fun with. There is absolutely NO reason to do so except for egotistical insecurity reasons.

VERITAS: I'm willing to challenge you on this subject and perhaps we can get a good debate going. Go ahead and tell me how my previous post was wrong.

[TYSON]

Damn too much to read when high. The mama needs to be checked imo. She should be teaching him boys play with boy's toys and girls play with girls toys. Instead she supplying the boy with the shit. Wow its crazy but I agree the morals are dwindling thru the generations. Yes I agree that its not that big a deal on the child if a phase but if she feeds it beyond his age then she should be suplexed.

[Geno]

Lmao @ toys for knucks. Damn, this thread got more live than I expected

-pats own back

[Geno]

And oh ya, about that suplex.. I'm waiting for her to call. Finna go try and suplex that pussy tonight! Bangbang. I should let little man watch -show him what's really good

[veritas]

Before I debate I must know:

Does he only play with girl toys or does he play with both?

If offered a boy toy and a girl toy which will he prefer?

Thank you.

Dsm code 302.6

[Geno]

Well @ veritas.

From what I've seen he'd go for the dora toy stronger.
But I do believe he has both. I will know more after the night is over, and I shall return with info.

[TYSON]

And oh ya, about that suplex.. I'm waiting for her to call. Finna go try and suplex that pussy tonight! Bangbang. I should let little man watch -show him what's really good

Lol u sure? He might be looking at u instead....lmao

[Split]

Well, tell me how removing your kids toys because you think they're for knucks is guiding your child at all? That's taking choices for him and deciding how he shall live life, and what kind of stuff he's allowed to have fun with. There is absolutely NO reason to do so except for egotistical insecurity reasons.

VERITAS: I'm willing to challenge you on this subject and perhaps we can get a good debate going. Go ahead and tell me how my previous post was wrong.

teach your kid how you think and your values, its up to him to make whatever he wants out of them. I never said censor his thoughts. if I was playing with a car as a kid and my dad gave me a truck and said try this instead, I'd be like "ok"

[Geno]

Lolololololol. You might be right, in that case ill just toss him a dora the explorer doll to divert his attention. Should go over like a dog on some steak during a burlgary

[Ghost1]

to be clear.



No its not.


And that kids a fagget. Ah well.

[Mike Wrecka]

this can lead to all types of problems. the mother is a moron for buying him the toys.

he will be socially awkward and have trouble making friends once school starts. boys will shun him and he will be an outcast. he will then become friends with girls because they have the same likes and interests. he will identify as a female soon after. where is the father?

[Objective]

Before I debate I must know:

Does he only play with girl toys or does he play with both?

If offered a boy toy and a girl toy which will he prefer?

Question nr.1: He plays with both. No natural favourite between toys for girls/boys. Just does whatever the fuck he wants.

Q2: Depends on the toy and what he wanna do that day. No real fav over the other.

[Split]

inb4 objective starts white knighting all over the place

[Objective]

teach your kid how you think and your values, its up to him to make whatever he wants out of them. I never said censor his thoughts. if I was playing with a car as a kid and my dad gave me a truck and said try this instead, I'd be like "ok"

Sure, ofc. But if you wanted to play with your hypothetical sisters dolls and you was refused because it was for knucks, it'd be wrong tho'? And shut up about whiteknighting, I'm simply debating this ish. I'm not telling ya'll to change opinions.

However, I'd never buy my son dolls n shit for no reason. I'm simply talking about playing with that stuff with friends or whatever in the playground and perhaps buying the son a doll or whatever if he wanted one. I mean, who gives a fuck? It's not like his room will be filled with toys for girls.

[Geno]

@ mike wrecka

Father ain't around. Has never seen the kid according to her. But I agree with everything you said there. Its all psychological

[veritas]

Common sense question which ends all this nonsense: would you buy your son a dress if he wanted to wear one?

[veritas]

Question nr.1: He plays with both. No natural favourite between toys for girls/boys. Just does whatever the fuck he wants.

Q2: Depends on the toy and what he wanna do that day. No real fav over the other.


That is by far less of a problem....but still a problem. There is the psychological concept of gender identofication.

And whatever parent says *we just let him find himself/herself* is a moron.

[Dominate]

Geno,

Answer my question about how does he play with them

[Objective]

That is by far less of a problem....but still a problem. There is the psychological concept of gender identofication.

And whatever parent says *we just let him find himself/herself* is a moron.

There will be no psychological concept of gender identification if you raise your child right. Being refused to play with shit ''no, you're a boy, you play with this shit'' creates more confusion than you'll probably ever agree with. Why? I'll tell you why.

A kid aint judgmental until you learn it to be. All a kid knows is what it likes and what it doesn't like. This boils down to the same arguement I make for people that agrees with slapping/hitting the child to make it understand the difference between right/wrong. It will NEVER understand why he can't play with a certain toy or what he did wrong unless it's explained to him why and he sincerely understands it. Just saying ''no'' doesnt work, and saying ''no'' to something that doesn't really have a real answer to begin with (playing with girls toys) will confuse the child. He'll nod and say he understands, but in actuality he doesn't. He just understands he can't play with it cuz he got a dick.

Now, if you can properly explain to a child why he can't play with gender specific toys without making him somewhat judgmental towards other kids that do; Good luck man, I salute you.

You're there to guide the kid, if he wonder about the gender specific toys, what/why other kids picks on it etc. THIS IS WHERE YOU CHIP IN to talk about how society works and how skewed it is. How people and kids do stuff they don't want to just because of social pressure. Do we really want our kids to be just another clone of the society we live in so they can be another prime example of a law abiding citizen that doesn't question anything about life? A protected facility called school with obligatory PARENTAL BEHAVIOUR EDUCATION between homework assignment and classes so they can get through first grade? Are you fucking kidding me dude? I'mma teach my kid to do whatever the fuck he wants, whenever he wants, however he wants and if someone picks on him I'll teach him how to hit people properly.

If you can properly learn your child how to hit a person that picks on it for playing with dolls, not only are you learning him to stand up for himself and what he believes is right, but you also learn him that he shouldn't give a fuck about what others think about the shit he does unless they start degrading him to his face. He's taking a stand. THAT'S how you raise a man and not another clone people kinda gives a shit about. That's how you raise someone that isn't afraid of making mistakes because he'll always have people that supports him. If you want to raise a person that believes in himself you don't conform the kid to society, you back him up no matter what he wants to do with his life. Fuck outta here with that weak shit ''nah man, my kid aint a knuck, my kid aint this, my kid aint that, fuck your kid if he's raised to become another clone of society that looks over his shoulder before he purchase his next set of nothing with personality.

Fuck this shit, ya'll are weak minded beings that's afraid of your own shadows and what your neighbours might think.

[veritas]

Who raised you? Amd how?

[Ghost1]

Lol....

Good...gooood.

[Mike Wrecka]

guaranteed Objective doesn't have a kid. and when he does, the second the kid wants to join ballet guaranteed he goes out and buys him hockey equipment

[Objective]

Who raised you? Amd how?

Half of the time I raised myself. Aint going to go into details about my childhood as it would detract from the debate and have nothing to do with it. This isn't the time for psyche evaluations of a persons opinion on a specific topic. Stick to the debate. I could use a different approach if you want to if my way of talking made your therapy senses tingle.

But truth be told; I've worked in a daycare a few years, been to several presentations about the psychology in kids, group psychology and psyche development throughout childhood years along with a few presentations on gender specific toys and what sort of impact they do on kids. Take what I said with a grain of salt, by all means, I did infact tell ya'll to teach your kids how to punch someone. But word, the shit above is what I believe in.

[Objective]

guaranteed Objective doesn't have a kid. and when he does, the second the kid wants to join ballet guaranteed he goes out and buys him hockey equipment

I don't have a kid, but whatever you say bro. If that makes me unfit to join the discussion I'll be happy to talk about it with ya in 10 years or so.

[Ghost1]

Honestly...yes. i personally feel like it does make ur oppinions invalid.

[Objective]

*Objective reserves this spot so he can fill in when he gets a kid in 10 years time.*

You better not fuck up this site Knuck. I want to discuss this shit some time in the future when my opinions are deemed valid and the same people are still posting on this shit. I know ya'll wont change much in 10 years anyways. So ye, see ya then.

Also, VERITAS: You a parent?

[veritas]

I have two children.

My whole debate is this amd it ends the matter:

Objective......your son wants to wear a pink frilly dress to his first day of school....do you let him?

[Dominate]

Of course not.

That's not nearly in the same realm as a kid playing with a Dora the explorer

Besides the fact that Dora IS a girl there's nothing inherently "girly" about that franchise - it's rescue missions and animals and treasure hunts and learning spanish.

It's how the kid plays with the toy, not the toy itself. Case in point: would you rather your son played with a Dora doll as described above, or with a GI Joe but doing tea parties and shit?

[Ghost1]

Whys mom buying young fagget da gawd girl toys to begin wit.....they shouldnt even be venturing down those aisles tho fohReal

[Destroyer]

get this kid a copy of yeezus stat

[veritas]

So you would not let him wear the dress right? I was looking for an answer to my question but didnt see it sorry?

[NYCSPITZ]

lmao @ fagget the gawd