Best NBA draft class?

[oats]

84, 96, or 03?

[Strikta]

This is tough, but I'ma say 96.

[Philly]

I was talkin about this just a few hours ago... that's crazy.

I'm goin 96 too though

[Meth]

Tough between 84-96

03 is just top heavy

[oats]

Tough between 84-96

03 is just top heavy

yeah that's how I feel. 84 and 03 had a cluster of great players, whereas 96 had a handful of great players plus a bunch more above average talents (I consider Ben Wallace part of that draft even though he was undrafted).

[Philly]

AI, Kobe, Nash, Marbury, Ray Allen, Peja Stojakovic, Camby, Antoine Walker, Shareef Abdur-Raheem,
Ilgauskas, Jermaine O'Neal, Kittles, D-Fish.

...goddamn

[hotdogvendorman]

im going with 03 ... bosh wade hinrich james dwest melo a few others. .. n only cuz kobe the only one outta his draft that really won titles.... i hate miami but at least they winning ships now

[hotdogvendorman]

and ray ray won his 2nd shows his longevity but also the leadership of the newer generation

[...the Nagger]

im going with 03 ... bosh wade hinrich james dwest melo a few others. .. n only cuz kobe the only one outta his draft that really won titles.... i hate miami but at least they winning ships now

kobe, no he isn't the only one yo? there's at least like five ppl, off the top of my head ray allen, derek fisher, kobe

[...the Nagger]

and ray ray won his 2nd shows his longevity but also the leadership of the newer generation

man all of the 03 class plays for the same team??

[Rawn M.D.]

tough but imma say 96

03 was good for my team (heat) but 96 was better overall i feel

[...the Nagger]

the 96 draft class made jordan retire

[God Of War]

id say 84


and age made jordan retire

[Strikta]

Word^^

Them knees couldn't keep going.

He made the All Star team in 02 as a starter, at 40 years old.

C'mon w/ that bullshit.

[Inno]

03.

Career of most not over.

Who knowd how many rings bron ends up with.

And melo aswell its only a matter of time

[PancakeBrah]

1984

[...the Nagger]

03.

Career of most not over.

Who knowd how many rings bron ends up with.

And melo aswell its only a matter of time

96 draft class still gettin rings too....

[Inno]

96 draft class still gettin rings too....

True..but not that many.

03 changed the game...small ball baby

[Joe Metts]

85 wasn't no joke either especially depth wise all through the draft.


84 tho.

[God Of War]

85 wasn't no joke either especially depth wise all through the draft.


84 tho.

see and joe gon be a sports writer so 84 wins lol

[...the Nagger]

True..but not that many.

03 changed the game...small ball baby

oh you mean AI?

cmon dog, 96 > the miami heat

[...the Nagger]

only reason I can't say 84 is how tf would I kno?

metts is 8 years older so yea, he saw them dudes ball from that draft class

all I know is jordan tho wtf I was ten in 97

[Joe Metts]

We're the same age eddie lol close. Im 28.

[...the Nagger]

so who is trap then??

[God Of War]

trap is some dude from that one board i think urbanprowlers or some shit

[Joe Metts]

Yo you been asking that for 4 years now. Been told 35 times me and trap ain't the same. Troll not working anymore homie

[...the Nagger]

Yo you been asking that for 4 years now. Been told 35 times me and trap ain't the same. Troll not working anymore homie

for real, like for real for real, why did I think you were trap?

I'm honestly not trollin... what are all your aliases?

I thought they were:

(trap)
One Man Gang


and it was one more too right?

[...the Nagger]

yall must write very similiar and both be from bmore or something

[oats]

84 is typically considered the best draft class of all time: Hakeem, MJ, Barkley, Stockton, and a handful of modest all-stars.

But when I look at it, I think 96 just has MORE talent. Of course there's no MJ caliber players, or even Barkley or Olajuwon caliber, but still: Kobe, Nash, AI, Ray Allen, plus a handful of above-average all-stars like Marbury, Jermaine O'neal and Starbury. To me, it's between those two years, unless more of the 03 players turn in phenomenal careers (Melo has it in him to get some rings, which would help the case).

[Chyeahhh!!!]

94-95

you had Webber the year before I think but check it:

Eddie Jones, Juwan Howard, Glenn Robinson, Grant Hill, Jason Kidd, Jalen Rose

end thread

[ill nik-A]

03

[trap.]

Mets is not me. He's a fat, jolly fellow and I'm a buff, badass, big nosed Soldier. Both from the city though. Mets is RM and some other sites, I'm Sethro's / UPN.

[SpookyDeep]

Melo has it in him to get some rings, which would help the case).

Melo can't lead a team himself to a championship, he just ain't that type of player

[oats]

he already did that at Syracuse. I think he has it in him. Knicks looking close to contention.

[SpookyDeep]

College is a lot different to NBA though homie ... Other then scoring 30 points what does he contribute to his team? He doesn't pass well, terrible defender and is an average rebounder at best...dude is just a scorer, nothing more...

That's why I think Paul George will be better than Carmelo Anthony next season

[Philly]

He's top 5 in player efficiency rating though...
And 7 rebounds a game for a small forward is good.

I agree with the defense and passing though

...still one of the most fun to watch

[SpookyDeep]

Carmelo is a beast but he doesn't have the leadership skills (on and off the court) to take his team to the finals...he needs another superstar on his team for that to happen

[Loast]

Word^^

Them knees couldn't keep going.

He made the All Star team in 02 as a starter, at 40 years old.

C'mon w/ that bullshit.

actually Jordan made the allstar team but not as a starter.. Vince Carter gave up his spot on the starting roster to Jordan in respect of His Airness..

[Loast]

True..but not that many.

03 changed the game...small ball baby

please explain to me how 03 changed the game... I was just thinking bout this the other day.. Did they change it by having people who are athletic, can high fly but can't shoot worth a damn...
the whole finals they gave lebron and dwade 5 ft. worth of space to shoot and they were scared to pull...


now tell me in the 84 or 96 class.., Name 1 motherfucker from the 84 or 96 class that you would give 3 ft of space to shoot...?
i remember when you had to have the full package to make it to the league.. ur Chris Webbers, Charles Barkleys, Hakeem, Karl Malone, Bird, MAgic..
Shaq is just way too big.. he dnt have to shoot..
but now, if your a quick guard that dunk... u'll make it
russel westbrooks, john walls, derek rose(freakish game but can't shoot) list goes on..

but if i chose it would be the 96 class all around.. but 84 class had better Talent wise

[...the Nagger]

please explain to me how 03 changed the game... I was just thinking bout this the other day.. Did they change it by having people who are athletic, can high fly but can't shoot worth a damn...
the whole finals they gave lebron and dwade 5 ft. worth of space to shoot and they were scared to pull...


now tell me in the 84 or 96 class.., Name 1 motherfucker from the 84 or 96 class that you would give 3 ft of space to shoot...?
i remember when you had to have the full package to make it to the league.. ur Chris Webbers, Charles Barkleys, Hakeem, Karl Malone, Bird, MAgic..
Shaq is just way too big.. he dnt have to shoot..
but now, if your a quick guard that dunk... u'll make it
russel westbrooks, john walls, derek rose(freakish game but can't shoot) list goes on..

but if i chose it would be the 96 class all around.. but 84 class had better Talent wise

I like this guy

[Inno]

please explain to me how 03 changed the game... I was just thinking bout this the other day.. Did they change it by having people who are athletic, can high fly but can't shoot worth a damn...
the whole finals they gave lebron and dwade 5 ft. worth of space to shoot and they were scared to pull...


now tell me in the 84 or 96 class.., Name 1 motherfucker from the 84 or 96 class that you would give 3 ft of space to shoot...?
i remember when you had to have the full package to make it to the league.. ur Chris Webbers, Charles Barkleys, Hakeem, Karl Malone, Bird, MAgic..
Shaq is just way too big.. he dnt have to shoot..
but now, if your a quick guard that dunk... u'll make it
russel westbrooks, john walls, derek rose(freakish game but can't shoot) list goes on..

but if i chose it would be the 96 class all around.. but 84 class had better Talent wise

You said it. They gave them 5 ft of room, like it or not thats what is now.

Although people like curry and thompson along with gearge kyrie Erving.
Are not part of that draft class, They are the result of that foundation.

Carmelo.

The ball is being scored AND handle by the perimeter players now.

Lebron an wade though fhey dont shoot amazingly...they change the defense.

[God Of War]

id like to of seen cats like lebron play against the likes of laimbeer n shit back in the day it'd be a different ball game

[...the Nagger]

You said it. They gave them 5 ft of room, like it or not thats what is now.

Although people like curry and thompson along with gearge kyrie Erving.
Are not part of that draft class, They are the result of that foundation.

Carmelo.

The ball is being scored AND handle by the perimeter players now.

Lebron an wade though fhey dont shoot amazingly...they change the defense.
that doesn't make much sense tho, because dudes played like this before LeBron

Lebron is 69 270 and moves like a pg. cool. but Shaq didn't "change the game" did he?

Penny didn't neither. and wouldn't have had he stayed healthy

its just sometimes you have freakish athlete's, but not necessarily changing the game

Allen Iverson changed the game yes or no? and he isn't even the best from his own draft class




And if LeBron was drafted in 96 he would have never been MVP, not with his skill set

he actually doesn't know how to play basketball imo, you'll see it more as he gets older

[Inno]

Your probably right about the 84 class I might of picked to quickly.

But.

03 came along and reinvented how the game was played.

There is a reason that bigs are disapearing.

That ahit is boring

[Inno]

id like to of seen cats like lebron play against the likes of laimbeer n shit back in the day it'd be a different ball game

You cabt judge that shit tho..it was a different game

Much rougher, more physical..lebron now wasnt taught to play the game that way..so of course people like barkley lambirt would dominanted him.

Now if lebron would of beeb born/drafted in that era, with the same skill set.
He would still be lebron

[...the Nagger]

with the same skill set.


LeBron has little skill set outside of athleticism imo

[Inno]

that doesn't make much sense tho, because dudes played like this before LeBron

Lebron is 69 270 and moves like a pg. cool. but Shaq didn't "change the game" did he?

Penny didn't neither. and wouldn't have had he stayed healthy

its just sometimes you have freakish athlete's, but not necessarily changing the game

Allen Iverson changed the game yes or no? and he isn't even the best from his own draft class




And if LeBron was drafted in 96 he would have never been MVP, not with his skill set

he actually doesn't know how to play basketball imo, you'll see it more as he gets older

Shaq dominated the game.

He changed how they defended him because he couldnt free throws for shit.

Come on penny? His injuries leave him out this convo.

Ypu saying lebron couldnt play im that era?

His a great post up player..a staple of 90s ball

[God Of War]

You cabt judge that shit tho..it was a different game

Much rougher, more physical..lebron now wasnt taught to play the game that way..so of course people like barkley lambirt would dominanted him.

Now if lebron would of beeb born/drafted in that era, with the same skill set.
He would still be lebron


I don't think he'd still be lebron at all. not a superstar like he is today.

[Inno]

LeBron has little skill set outside of athleticism imo

I honestly think hes better made for post up basketball.
One on one against the basket like jordan used to do and so
Many others from that era.

Hes big strong and best of all fast...come on man u honestly think
Penny could hold down lebron?

[God Of War]

I actually got to agree with Eddie here about lebron

[God Of War]

I honestly think hes better made for post up basketball.
One on one against the basket like jordan used to do and so
Many others from that era.

Hes big strong and best of all fast...come on man u honestly think
Penny could hold down lebron?

penny was dope when he played

[Inno]

Penny was the shit.

But lebron would of been a force.

[God Of War]

Penny was the shit.

But lebron would of been a force.

i dont know man a different time. I dont think lebrons game would of brought him to the level he is now if it was then tbh

[Inno]

So it goes back to my point.

You xabt compare different eras.

Perfect example.

Hibbert and Randolph.

Now are above average players.

If they would played in that era they would be sick.
But thats only because thats the style they play now.
They where taught to play like that.

Lebron is new era..fast break era. ..its a different game bro

Different skill sets for each era.

But honestly believe lebrons physical would carry him through

[God Of War]

So it goes back to my point.

You xabt compare different eras.

Perfect example.

Hibbert and Randolph.

Now are above average players.

If they would played in that era they would be sick.
But thats only because thats the style they play now.
They where taught to play like that.

Lebron is new era..fast break era. ..its a different game bro

Different skill sets for each era.

But honestly believe lebrons physical would carry him through


I agree its a different game. I ain't disputing your entire arguement tbh. I know its hard to say who would actually be what in a different time zone but shit speculation is a great thing lol


imo its alot more sensative n sisified now. I was watching an old school game the other day it was with isaiah and laimbeer when detroit won there titles and basketball was so much doper then

[Inno]

I agree its a different game. I ain't disputing your entire arguement tbh. I know its hard to say who would actually be what in a different time zone but shit speculation is a great thing lol


imo its alot more sensative n sisified now. I was watching an old school game the other day it was with isaiah and laimbeer when detroit won there titles and basketball was so much doper then

Dont get me wrong dude..I hate the fucking foul callimg.

Unless your left alone to the basket its never clean lol.

I agree basketball was tougher back then..but better?

Thats ups for interpretation.

Some say todays game is more exciting

Old scholl heads says.

Like eddie said lol..these players cant play real basketball.

So I mean lol it us what it is

[God Of War]

Dont get me wrong dude..I hate the fucking foul callimg.

Unless your left alone to the basket its never clean lol.

I agree basketball was tougher back then..but better?

Thats ups for interpretation.

Some say todays game is more exciting

Old scholl heads says.

Like eddie said lol..these players cant play real basketball.

So I mean lol it us what it is



it's more exciting because theres less touching imo. back then when u went to the basket to dunk you EARNED THAT SHIT lol michael earned every dunk he got and got the fuck hacked out of him more then a few times. now the wind from your arm breezes a player you get a call so eryone scared to get near the other player. of course its more exciting when you aint got to work as hard to score your points

[Inno]

But is it bad basketball?

I think its the evolution of the game with society

Back im the 80s niggas wasnt politically correct
People where gritty and more jobs where still here in america
So had more hardworkinh people....

Now a days niggas is soft and can make money sitting behind a comp.
Not saying people like that dont earn they're way.
But its a different mentality.

[God Of War]

But is it bad basketball?

I think its the evolution of the game with society

Back im the 80s niggas wasnt politically correct
People where gritty and more jobs where still here in america
So had more hardworkinh people....

Now a days niggas is soft and can make money sitting behind a comp.
Not saying people like that dont earn they're way.
But its a different mentality.

yeah but it makes it alot harder to compare a with b. i think the 96 class had a bit of both worlds but the 03 class def doesn't. I dont know I just don't see players today fucking with players back then though i'm sure there's a trillion different opinions. My favorite player of all time is pistol pete so I am nostalgic with basketball.

[...the Nagger]

I'm not sayin Penny can guard LeBron

I'm saying Penny had waaaaay more skill than LeBron, and I'm saying LeBron has little basketball skill

Hack a Shaq? dog, ppl are doing that right now are they? and did they do it outside of Shaq?

I don't think you know the definition of "changing the game" Innovator

[Inno]

Lol so ur saying hack a shaq is a good thing for the game?

And I know they applied it to others..I never denied that he didnt chamge the game.

But so did the small era..witch in my opinion started around 02 03.


Carmelo is the penny of today.

With better defense.

Point is...

You xant compare eras.

Outside of
Jordan
Magic
And lebron.

I think those players could play in each others eras

[Strikta]

Melo will win atleast 1 ring before he retires, & it will be in the next 4 years.

Even if he has to superteam it like LeBitch did.

[Inno]

Lol u know kevin garnett did it first.

No one dislikes him infact hes a "warrior" fuck outchea

[Strikta]

Garnett didn't do it the same way James did tho.

& u might as well say the Lakers did it before Boston.

[...the Nagger]

Lol so ur saying hack a shaq is a good thing for the game?

And I know they applied it to others..I never denied that he didnt chamge the game.

But so did the small era..witch in my opinion started around 02 03.


Carmelo is the penny of today.

With better defense.

Point is...

You xant compare eras.

Outside of
Jordan
Magic
And lebron.

I think those players could play in each others eras

Lebron can't

Shaq DID NOT CHANGE THE GAME, you obv don't know what the phrase means

nor did hack a shaq

Carmello is a WHAT to penny?

I think you need to leave the thread

[...the Nagger]

Lol u know kevin garnett did it first.

No one dislikes him infact hes a "warrior" fuck outchea

no one mentions garnett allen and peirce doing it as a bad thing because they're past their prime when they did it

leBron and the 03 gang were/are in their prime

[God Of War]

I have to agree with Eddie yet again man I don't think Lebron could travel in any generation and be a factor.

[God Of War]

@eddie btw who is your favorite team as of now?

[...the Nagger]

the warriors were always my team

[God Of War]

Atleast you are not one of them band wagoner ass fucks

[...the Nagger]

but I will say Innovator that sig is pretty funny

[Beyond]

I knew as soon as I seen the thread title it would be mostly cHeat fans riding the '03 class.

LOL @ the Melo hype in this thread. He's made it out of the first round ONE TIME in his career.

Stop it.

I think I seen some cHeat fan say Bronze is a good post up player, LMAO. He only really posted up one game in these whole play offs well against Paul George because the Pacers were letting him go one on one and giving him 20 dribbles. After that game, he was a complete non-threat in the post for the remainder of the post season.

Leonard and Diaw bodied him in the finals for most of the games. Only reason he was even averaging 17 PPG is because he would go to work in garbage time after the Spurs pulled their starters. SMH. Dude was really averaging 13 PPG without all that garbage time work.

What an embarrassment.

[Inno]

I knew as soon as I seen the thread title it would be mostly cHeat fans riding the '03 class.

LOL @ the Melo hype in this thread. He's made it out of the first round ONE TIME in his career.

Stop it.

I think I seen some cHeat fan say Bronze is a good post up player, LMAO. He only really posted up one game in these whole play offs well against Paul George because the Pacers were letting him go one on one and giving him 20 dribbles. After that game, he was a complete non-threat in the post for the remainder of the post season.

Leonard and Diaw bodied him in the finals for most of the games. Only reason he was even averaging 17 PPG is because he would go to work in garbage time after the Spurs pulled their starters. SMH. Dude was really averaging 13 PPG without all that garbage time work.

What an embarrassment.


@eddie

@strickta

Its yhe same thing tho..everyone hates becuase he left cleveland.

So did shaq in orlando.
So did howard in orlando
So did garnett

And shaq did it before his prime....you cant deny me that.


Beyond.

A week later an u got the same bullshit arguement
..stfu

An the hack a shaq made couches switch up shit...sub for him
During crucial moments....prepare for the hack a shaq

How is that not changing the game eddie?

Tovmany things at once lol


All I knoe is ive been a fan ofvthe heat since rony seikly so pleasr dont come at me
With ban wagon shit.

[Inno]

Fuck beyond.

[...the Nagger]

Neither Shaq nor Hack a Shaq changed the game

stop using the phrase please

[Strikta]

Dude I'm a Wizards fan.

There's other reasons I hate that crybaby faggot.

[Inno]

Your crazy if you think shaq didnt have a big enough impact to do that.

Either way lebron will end up with 8 rings.

Strck

I feel you lol.

Wall lookimg good tho

[...the Nagger]

Your crazy if you think shaq didnt have a big enough impact to do that.

Either way lebron will end up with 8 rings.

Strck

I feel you lol.

Wall lookimg good tho

WHAT DID HE CHANGE EXACTLY?

[Inno]

His diminance demanded coaches to change how they approached him.

He was so dominant they haf to foul him cuz he was a shitty free throw shooter.

Then.

Yhey took that and applied to EVERYONE WHO CANT SHOOT FREETHROWS.

WAS THAT A STRATAGY BEFORE HIM?

WAS THERE A HACK A MAGIC?

OR HOW BOUT A POKE KAREEM?

come on man

[Philly]

I agree with most of what the old schoolers are sayin...
but Shaq definitely changed the game.
Or if that's some sacred term, had a huge impact on how it was played, then and in the future.
They use the hack-a-shaq on Dwight now, and reference Shaq.
He was one of, if not the most dominant players to ever play...
that sheer size, weight, and strength. Mixed with great footwork, moves, and IQ.

Why don't we all hate on Greg Ostertag or something?
Shaq is a legend

[...the Nagger]

His diminance demanded coaches to change how they approached him.

He was so dominant they haf to foul him cuz he was a shitty free throw shooter.

Then.

Yhey took that and applied to EVERYONE WHO CANT SHOOT FREETHROWS.

WAS THAT A STRATAGY BEFORE HIM?

WAS THERE A HACK A MAGIC?

OR HOW BOUT A POKE KAREEM?

come on man
my point is, Hack a Shaq didn't start with Shaq

it started way before him bro

it was coined because of the clutch situation it was used in, it was a key moment in the playoff. the media nicknamed it

but it wasn't invented with Shaq

Shaq shot under 50 % from the line, Of course there was no hack a Magic? why would there be? wasn't he +80 career from the line? Why would you foul him?

Shaq came in the league when bigs dominated. He was the most dominate during his time for sure, but bigs already were dominate, and he only played around the rim.

he was just a freak of nature thats all.

changing the game is like when AI made combo guards the popular thing to do, from a personnel and strategical standpoint.

[Inno]

my point is, Hack a Shaq didn't start with Shaq

it started way before him bro

it was coined because of the clutch situation it was used in, it was a key moment in the playoff. the media nicknamed it

but it wasn't invented with Shaq

Shaq shot under 50 % from the line, Of course there was no hack a Magic? why would there be? wasn't he +80 career from the line? Why would you foul him?

Shaq came in the league when bigs dominated. He was the most dominate during his time for sure, but bigs already were dominate, and he only played around the rim.

he was just a freak of nature thats all.

changing the game is like when AI made combo guards the popular thing to do, from a personnel and strategical standpoint.

True..i might of been around before him.

But it was used differently with him is all im sayimg.
He took something that already existed and changed the use of it in terms of strategy
Because of his play.

I agree with your last post tho

[...the Nagger]

True..i might of been around before him.

But it was used differently with him is all im sayimg.
He took something that already existed and changed the use of it in terms of strategy
Because of his play.

I agree with your last post tho

lol, no it wasn't diff.

Man what is Hack a Shaq. Maybe the problem is your perception. What is your perception of Hack a Shaq?

I can tell you mine first if you want

[...the Nagger]

I consider Shaq and Jordan to be ones who played the game right and won

While I put Jordan as #1 I don't think he changed the game he played in.

[Beyond]

Innovator

I've never argued that point before you brought it up in this thread and judging by your lack of rebuttal, it's clear that I'm obviously correct in that notion.

Either way, you're clearly not a real NBA fan and have no idea with what you type of.

LeFraud Shames leaving Cleveland is just one of MANY reasons why he has so much hate, but the list is limitless.

He will not get 8 rings. I'd be surprised if he got even one more after how close he came to losing multiple series this season with 3 other future HOF'ers on his squad.

[God Of War]

I consider Shaq and Jordan to be ones who played the game right and won

While I put Jordan as #1 I don't think he changed the game he played in.

pistol pete changed the game CHANGED IT

[God Of War]

Innovator

I've never argued that point before you brought it up in this thread and judging by your lack of rebuttal, it's clear that I'm obviously correct in that notion.

Either way, you're clearly not a real NBA fan and have no idea with what you type of.

LeFraud Shames leaving Cleveland is just one of MANY reasons why he has so much hate, but the list is limitless.

He will not get 8 rings. I'd be surprised if he got even one more after how close he came to losing multiple series this season with 3 other future HOF'ers on his squad.


lmfao @lefraud shames, nice bey nice

[Inno]

Innovator

I've never argued that point before you brought it up in this thread and judging by your lack of rebuttal, it's clear that I'm obviously correct in that notion.

Either way, you're clearly not a real NBA fan and have no idea with what you type of.

LeFraud Shames leaving Cleveland is just one of MANY reasons why he has so much hate, but the list is limitless.

He will not get 8 rings. I'd be surprised if he got even one more after how close he came to losing multiple series this season with 3 other future HOF'ers on his squad.

What exactly warrants him the hate then?

His countless charities in akron his his hometown?

Is complete team player (magics words)?

The fact that he donated all the earnings from the decison to charity?


What is it about lebrons charactet that warrants the hate?

Its obviously not his game right?


Its gotta be that right?

Becuase see the difference between you and eddie is.

Eddie is presenting facts in a respectable manner..telling his side of the issue.

You.

Come with made up names and anger.

You yourself said u are biasd.

So your not looking at this from "real NBA fans" lol eye.

More like a peephole in your basement.

[God Of War]

Lebron needs to be mentioned int he ai thread because lebron is easily the most over hyped nba player ive ever seen in my life tbh

[Inno]

Lebron needs to be mentioned int he ai thread because lebron is easily the most over hyped nba player ive ever seen in my life tbh

Dude I can, agree with that somewaht.

Im honestly not a homer or some bandwagon guy.

I love sports

My background music during sex is sprtscenter.


All im sayimg is..lebron deserves critism like all playrrs.

He doesnt deserve the hate he gets.

[God Of War]

what do you think of bill russell innovator? you think he is top 10?

[Inno]

11 rings

Averaged 22 rebounds for a career..id say yeah

[God Of War]

where would you put him in your top ten?

[Inno]

Prolly...I mean he only averaged 15 points fpr hos career.

But I put him in my top 10 at 8-10

Mainly cuz of the rings that shit is undeniable

[God Of War]

Prolly...I mean he only averaged 15 points fpr hos career.

But I put him in my top 10 at 8-10

Mainly cuz of the rings that shit is undeniable

he also got like 50 rebounds in one game or 49 or some shit lmao his boarding was insane and his defense literally changed the game

[Inno]

He, was also on those great celtic teams.

Dude wasca beast...but see hoe rings dont translate to whos great.

By the kobe vs bron vs jordan logic.

Bill russell is the greatest.

And dr j is jesus

[God Of War]

He, was also on those great celtic teams.

Dude wasca beast...but see hoe rings dont translate to whos great.

By the kobe vs bron vs jordan logic.

Bill russell is the greatest.

And dr j is jesus

you wouldnt beleive(or u might) how many people argue with me about bill russell though , them claiming he is the greatest because of his rings.

[Inno]

Hahahahah those are typical bystander fans lol.

Quick google search..

11 rings gotta be the greatest.

"Yo gow let holla...thay nigga got 11 rings yo"

[Beyond]

What exactly warrants him the hate then?

His countless charities in akron his his hometown?

Is complete team player (magics words)?

The fact that he donated all the earnings from the decison to charity?


What is it about lebrons charactet that warrants the hate?

Its obviously not his game right?


Its gotta be that right?

Becuase see the difference between you and eddie is.

Eddie is presenting facts in a respectable manner..telling his side of the issue.

You.

Come with made up names and anger.

You yourself said u are biasd.

So your not looking at this from "real NBA fans" lol eye.

More like a peephole in your basement.

He's a chronic flopper, he cries after every no call (to the point of letting the other team play 5 on 4 and score against his team), he talks shit to his fans, he's a huge choker, he's a stat padder, "The Decision," 'not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7,' "I'm taking my talents to South Beach," he's VERITAS balding, he gets ref assistance, it's never his fault when his team loses and he always needs more help whenever he's playing poorly, by contrast whenever his team wins even if he was horrible he's always the reason they won, he had to collude with 2 other superstars to win titles, etc etc etc ad infinitum.

You're a complete homer and fanboy. You went into the AI thread and when someone commented on how Wade didn't win his '06 title alone, you begrudgingly got angry for no reason and fanboyed your precious cHeat squad.

I have little (no) respect for LeTots and cHeat fanboys like you. Someone said the cHeat have the worst fans and you prove that notion true every time you post in one of these basketball threads.

Now do us both a favor and stop posting/responding to anything I say, you dick riding little peasant.

[Inno]

He's a chronic flopper, he cries after every no call (to the point of letting the other team play 5 on 4 and score against his team), he talks shit to his fans, he's a huge choker, he's a stat padder, "The Decision," 'not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7,' "I'm taking my talents to South Beach," he's VERITAS balding, he gets ref assistance, it's never his fault when his team loses and he always needs more help whenever he's playing poorly, by contrast whenever his team wins even if he was horrible he's always the reason they won, he had to collude with 2 other superstars to win titles, etc etc etc ad infinitum.

You're a complete homer and fanboy. You went into the AI thread and when someone commented on how Wade didn't win his '06 title alone, you begrudgingly got angry for no reason and fanboyed your precious cHeat squad.

I have little (no) respect for LeTots and cHeat fanboys like you. Someone said the cHeat have the worst fans and you prove that notion true every time you post in one of these basketball threads.

Now do us both a favor and stop posting/responding to anything I say, you dick riding little peasant.

First off I honestly believe wade flops more.

Complains more..see no ones asked me how I feel about my team.

Omly about bron.

Yes.

Yhe heat flop from time to time.

But eho doesn't

Genobli is the king of flops..its documented.
Yet you dont mention him

Second.

Bron and jordan @28

Bron
4 mvps
2 titles
2 finals mvps

Jordan
2 mvps I beleive
1 title
1 mba finals mvp

How is he a choker whem he took his team to 3 straight nba finals?

And your mentioning of the decison, u base ypur hate solely on that fact

Which is mind blowing to me...you realise that was ment tp hype the crowd.

Tge problem is.


That u know its a possibility thats why u hang on that.

How dare he say that lol.

Third.

How did I come back angrly...I asked Allen Knight a question he answerd it
I gave him respect for that answer.

Did I miss anything?

[Loast]

What exactly warrants him the hate then?

His countless charities in akron his his hometown?

Is complete team player (magics words)?

The fact that he donated all the earnings from the decison to charity?


What is it about lebrons charactet that warrants the hate?

Its obviously not his game right?


Its gotta be that right?

Becuase see the difference between you and eddie is.

Eddie is presenting facts in a respectable manner..telling his side of the issue.

You.

Come with made up names and anger.

You yourself said u are biasd.

So your not looking at this from "real NBA fans" lol eye.

More like a peephole in your basement.
plz... plz.. I got this!!


Put it like this, your the best SO CALLED played in the NBA.. and the heat sign D. Wade - Olympic talent than Chris Bosh (contrary to what people believe he has Olympic talent) and has been on several Olympic teams just not in the last yr. because i believe he had a child he had newborn he wanted to be with.. Chris Bosh is one of the Best shooting Big Men in the league...

Now as Lebron the heat sign 2 Olympians and your gonna join them as the SO CALLED best player in the league proves how scary and how much he is unsure of his talent... when Jordan was the best, he Told CHARLES BARKLEY "as long as i'm in the league, u'll never get a ring".. LOL, Jordan didn't wanna Play with the Best he wanted to beat the best to prove he was the Best..
Lebron on the other hand is not that great of a player besides the fact he can lay the ball up like a mother fucker.. 6,9 - body of a strong forward, speed of a guard, elevation of a freak human, and can't drop 40 over night is sad... he should be able to do what he wants when he wants on that court....

go to youtube and see what NBA players say about Kobe and Lebron who would win one on one.. they say Kobe cuz he can't shoot.. 1 outta 10 said lebron if he uses size but everyone said when it comes to downright who HAS GAME gave it to Kobe...

in conclusion, Lebron is a Bitchass for going to the Heat.. if i was Lebron i would sit Mello, Kobe, Kevin Durant, D. Wade, Derek Rose, Kyrie, Chris Paul, and the other greats in a Room in a big ass circle... Stand in the Middle and look all them in the eyes and say "My name is Lebron James, as long as I can run up and down that court.. Yall will Never get a Ring." and walk slam the fuck out..!
i wouldn't do it to be cocky.. YEah, i would.. but it would also be to make them step their games up and play harder, and that would make me step my game up and work ethic up more.. plus, if Lebron did that u know how much fear that would put in their hearts when they step on the same court as him.. . they have no choice but to think.. that niggas great..

[Inno]

plz... plz.. I got this!!


Put it like this, your the best SO CALLED played in the NBA.. and the heat sign D. Wade - Olympic talent than Chris Bosh (contrary to what people believe he has Olympic talent) and has been on several Olympic teams just not in the last yr. because i believe he had a child he had newborn he wanted to be with.. Chris Bosh is one of the Best shooting Big Men in the league...

Now as Lebron the heat sign 2 Olympians and your gonna join them as the SO CALLED best player in the league proves how scary and how much he is unsure of his talent... when Jordan was the best, he Told CHARLES BARKLEY "as long as i'm in the league, u'll never get a ring".. LOL, Jordan didn't wanna Play with the Best he wanted to beat the best to prove he was the Best..
Lebron on the other hand is not that great of a player besides the fact he can lay the ball up like a mother fucker.. 6,9 - body of a strong forward, speed of a guard, elevation of a freak human, and can't drop 40 over night is sad... he should be able to do what he wants when he wants on that court....

go to youtube and see what NBA players say about Kobe and Lebron who would win one on one.. they say Kobe cuz he can't shoot.. 1 outta 10 said lebron if he uses size but everyone said when it comes to downright who HAS GAME gave it to Kobe...

in conclusion, Lebron is a Bitchass for going to the Heat.. if i was Lebron i would sit Mello, Kobe, Kevin Durant, D. Wade, Derek Rose, Kyrie, Chris Paul, and the other greats in a Room in a big ass circle... Stand in the Middle and look all them in the eyes and say "My name is Lebron James, as long as I can run up and down that court.. Yall will Never get a Ring." and walk slam the fuck out..!
i wouldn't do it to be cocky.. YEah, i would.. but it would also be to make them step their games up and play harder, and that would make me step my game up and work ethic up more.. plus, if Lebron did that u know how much fear that would put in their hearts when they step on the same court as him.. . they have no choice but to think.. that niggas great..



Lol so your saying no one in the nba can play with heat?

Your sayimg its not fair? Lol really?

Did the pacer and spurs not take us to 7?

And evrry both of you are sayimg are so called character flaws
.nothing to fo with his actual game.

So let me ask u this.

Kobe raped a girl.

Why is lebron morw hated than a rapist?

See the biased view?

Jordan is known gambler and an all around piece shit as a person
.thats fact...yet jordan is loved.


See what i mean?

If you hate lebron solely on what hes dome of the court.

Then jordam and kobe must be cotton picking niggers to you to

[Loast]

First off I honestly believe wade flops more.

Complains more..see no ones asked me how I feel about my team.

Omly about bron.

Yes.

Yhe heat flop from time to time.

But eho doesn't

Genobli is the king of flops..its documented.
Yet you dont mention him

Second.

Bron and jordan @28

Bron
4 mvps
2 titles
2 finals mvps

Jordan
2 mvps I beleive
1 title
1 mba finals mvp

How is he a choker whem he took his team to 3 straight nba finals?

And your mentioning of the decison, u base ypur hate solely on that fact

Which is mind blowing to me...you realise that was ment tp hype the crowd.

Tge problem is.


That u know its a possibility thats why u hang on that.

How dare he say that lol.

Third.

How did I come back angrly...I asked Allen Knight a question he answerd it
I gave him respect for that answer.

Did I miss anything?
YES, u missed everything... What u said bout Jordan 1 mvp, 1 finals mvp.. you r fucking stupid.. i'm not even gonna tell u bout his 6 rings, 3 mvps, 6 finals mvps, only player to win rookie of the year, league mvp, finals mvp, allstar mvp, defensive player of the year
one of 3 players to sweep the MVPS in 1 season, NBA, Allstar, and Finals

u must be out ur fucking mind disregarding Jordans talent behind lebron..
u gotta be what 16 and never seen jordan play...


do this.. go to youtube look at lebrons highlights, than look at jordans.. i guarantee u'll change your whole outlook on who is better...
the BEATINGs JORDAN took.. leaving games with bloody noses and bruises cuz they actually played HARD back than.. the athleticism he had and skill level in the air to make them amazing shots...
how the Detroit Pistons actually had a PLAY called KILL JORDAN which means when he elevates u put an elbow in his chest or face or anywhere to put him back on the ground cuz he wasn't gonna beat them with his high flying acrobatics.. and thats when Jordan decided he had to become a better shooter and thats what he did...
u actually think Lebron could play in the Kill Jordan era and take the same beating Mike took and still be great.. .seriously.. the kid cries when he drops his shoulder in some1's chest and they tap his arm slightly but he's trying to run them over...

like i say.. the games changed alot.. made it alot softer to accommodate players like bron and mello..

if you really watched the Finals Kawhi Leonard was killing lebron on 1-on-1 situations on offensive and defensive the whole series.. and never cried about a foul or anything just kept playing ball... His respect level just went up in my book alot.. that boy has game

[God Of War]

Lol so your saying no one in the nba can play with heat?

Your sayimg its not fair? Lol really?

Did the pacer and spurs not take us to 7?

And evrry both of you are sayimg are so called character flaws
.nothing to fo with his actual game.

So let me ask u this.

Kobe raped a girl.

Why is lebron morw hated than a rapist?

See the biased view?

Jordan is known gambler and an all around piece shit as a person
.thats fact...yet jordan is loved.


See what i mean?

If you hate lebron solely on what hes dome of the court.

Then jordam and kobe must be cotton picking niggers to you to


wtf kobe didnt rape a bitch and lebron will never ever be the player jordan is and lebron will never be better then bryant. u do sound like a fanboy bro

[Inno]

YES, u missed everything... What u said bout Jordan 1 mvp, 1 finals mvp.. you r fucking stupid.. i'm not even gonna tell u bout his 6 rings, 3 mvps, 6 finals mvps, only player to win rookie of the year, league mvp, finals mvp, allstar mvp, defensive player of the year
one of 3 players to sweep the MVPS in 1 season, NBA, Allstar, and Finals

u must be out ur fucking mind disregarding Jordans talent behind lebron..
u gotta be what 16 and never seen jordan play...


do this.. go to youtube look at lebrons highlights, than look at jordans.. i guarantee u'll change your whole outlook on who is better...
the BEATINGs JORDAN took.. leaving games with bloody noses and bruises cuz they actually played HARD back than.. the athleticism he had and skill level in the air to make them amazing shots...
how the Detroit Pistons actually had a PLAY called KILL JORDAN which means when he elevates u put an elbow in his chest or face or anywhere to put him back on the ground cuz he wasn't gonna beat them with his high flying acrobatics.. and thats when Jordan decided he had to become a better shooter and thats what he did...
u actually think Lebron could play in the Kill Jordan era and take the same beating Mike took and still be great.. .seriously.. the kid cries when he drops his shoulder in some1's chest and they tap his arm slightly but he's trying to run them over...

like i say.. the games changed alot.. made it alot softer to accommodate players like bron and mello..

if you really watched the Finals Kawhi Leonard was killing lebron on 1-on-1 situations on offensive and defensive the whole series.. and never cried about a foul or anything just kept playing ball... His respect level just went up in my book alot.. that boy has game



Lol look again.

I said lebron and jordan @28 year's of age

Jordan had 1 ring @28 years of age...ofcourse I lbpe jordan, has 6 rings morron.

This proves ypu dont read my post and go directly to spewing hate.

[Loast]

Lol so your saying no one in the nba can play with heat?

Your sayimg its not fair? Lol really?

Did the pacer and spurs not take us to 7?

And evrry both of you are sayimg are so called character flaws
.nothing to fo with his actual game.

So let me ask u this.

Kobe raped a girl.

Why is lebron morw hated than a rapist?

See the biased view?

Jordan is known gambler and an all around piece shit as a person
.thats fact...yet jordan is loved.


See what i mean?

If you hate lebron solely on what hes dome of the court.

Then jordam and kobe must be cotton picking niggers to you to
let me kill you one more time...

U actually think that kobe really raped her? be real a basketball playing multi millionaire who is the best at that time really had to rape someone.. be real with yaself.. or she screamed rape and he payed her to shut up because he has a status to maintain.......

what does gambling have to do with ball.. were talking about on the court situations ur talking about off the court to back up a point of view that clearly u dnt even see clearly...
and do u know jordan how do u know he is a piece of shit person cuz of what u heard or when u become famous EVERY1 has their handout or is trying to manipulate you in some type of way would make me bitter too... Ex. Magic Johnson.. reason why he got taken for his gwap...

but ur argument is not valid were talking about ball ur talking about lifestyles u lose again sir

[God Of War]

Lol look again.

I said lebron and jordan @28 year's of age

Jordan had 1 ring @28 years of age...ofcourse I lbpe jordan, has 6 rings morron.

This proves ypu dont read my post and go directly to spewing hate.

how many more years has bron played at 28 then jordan did?

[Inno]

wtf kobe didnt rape a bitch and lebron will never ever be the player jordan is and lebron will never be better then bryant. u do sound like a fanboy bro

How when I agreed he flops

Agreed hes over ratef at times

And never ment to compare them im thay fashion just pointing out facts.

Jordan is the best evrr no doubt.

Im rrally not a fanboy lol

Ur heat hate clouds ur eys

[oats]

It's not that it's not fair for Bron to go to the Heat, it's just that it proves he's mentally weak. He's not a leader like Kobe and Mike, he defers his greatness when the pressure is on. Plus, the manner in which he left his HOMETOWN TEAM was narcissistic and disrespectful, to a state plagued by horrible sports franchises (oh and he also promised to bring the championship to Cleveland).

Lebron is too talented for his own good in that regard - he plays like an average Joe would if they got to borrow the most athletically gifted body for a day. People don't like him for that. In sports, we want the great ones to be great, and assert their greatness. Despite the repeat, it'll always be seen as a bit of an asterisk because he's playing with two all stars (one an MVP caliber player in his own right). It's just how people said Kobe's first three with Shaq didn't count cuz those were Shaq's rings. Kobe had to get his own. And he didn't rape that chick, don't be naive.

[Inno]

Im driving I eill respond to u fags soon enough

[oats]

Plus Kobe and MJ were never floppers. Lebron has publicly stated that it's an effective way to play, and flops in almost every game. Not becoming of someone who has KING JAMES tattooed on them.

[Loast]

It's not that it's not fair for Bron to go to the Heat, it's just that it proves he's mentally weak. He's not a leader like Kobe and Mike, he defers his greatness when the pressure is on. Plus, the manner in which he left his HOMETOWN TEAM was narcissistic and disrespectful, to a state plagued by horrible sports franchises (oh and he also promised to bring the championship to Cleveland).

Lebron is too talented for his own good in that regard - he plays like an average Joe would if they got to borrow the most athletically gifted body for a day. People don't like him for that. In sports, we want the great ones to be great, and assert their greatness. Despite the repeat, it'll always be seen as a bit of an asterisk because he's playing with two all stars (one an MVP caliber player in his own right). It's just how people said Kobe's first three with Shaq didn't count cuz those were Shaq's rings. Kobe had to get his own. And he didn't rape that chick, don't be naive.
i couldn't say it any better... u said that perfect my man.. i like you now

[Inno]

It's not that it's not fair for Bron to go to the Heat, it's just that it proves he's mentally weak. He's not a leader like Kobe and Mike, he defers his greatness when the pressure is on. Plus, the manner in which he left his HOMETOWN TEAM was narcissistic and disrespectful, to a state plagued by horrible sports franchises (oh and he also promised to bring the championship to Cleveland).

Lebron is too talented for his own good in that regard - he plays like an average Joe would if they got to borrow the most athletically gifted body for a day. People don't like him for that. In sports, we want the great ones to be great, and assert their greatness. Despite the repeat, it'll always be seen as a bit of an asterisk because he's playing with two all stars (one an MVP caliber player in his own right). It's just how people said Kobe's first three with Shaq didn't count cuz those were Shaq's rings. Kobe had to get his own. And he didn't rape that chick, don't be naive.

See I canxrespect that.

So the oats y o u feel the same way about kevin garnett?

What im saying is.

I understand, but to be honest if your goimg that route the only people
Who should fell like that is Cleveland. .which is understandable.

Also.

You guys are attacking him about the decison like he sat at home and plotted
Yhe entire thing.

You guyd honeslty beleive that? Espn had nothing to do with that?

Shaq and howard left orlando in their prime..also promised rings.

You hold them in the same light?


Gary payton had to come down here to win one, is he the same?

Ray allen hadcto join up with pierce and garnett to winn one

Pierce never took his teams far until he HAD to join other hall of famers.

But lebron is the evil guy lol come on man.

You guys talk about lebron is shitty to fans.

Metta world piece fights them

Reggie miller was the king ofvthat shit.
And prolly one of the dirtiest playrrs in the nba.

Yet lebron is dirty playrr who flops and cheats.

Jordan used to get calls all the fucking time..blatant none fouls giving
Solely on his name.

But when it happens to bron its his doing.

You guys come at with conspiracy theories and ohh the refs cheat for them and this and that
You guys honestly beleive the refs ate in favor of heat? Srsly?

Ill admitt the heat got calls...but so did the spurs..the spurs went to line more
Than the heat in this series..yeah real conspiracy guys.

You talk about leaning greatness.

No one simgle super star aside from maybe dr j won a championship alone.

Jordan had pippen
Magic had kareem
Bird had mchale and others
Kobe had shaq
Later on gasol
Russell had boston lol

I mean I might be wrong but give examples of a single star team
That one the tittle?

Ohh yeah..barkley. hmm look at that.

Malone had stockton but still couldnt win it.

My point is when did winning championships become an individual award?
Why did lebrwhen it comez to lebron its only him...its his fault and no one elses.
And then u guys there and accuse the guy of plotting the decison lol.

[Inno]

Plus Kobe and MJ were never floppers. Lebron has publicly stated that it's an effective way to play, and flops in almost every game. Not becoming of someone who has KING JAMES tattooed on them.

But it was a different game tho.

They teach players to flop...its a stratagy every one uses but u pin it on lebron lol
Every player foes this every player.

Chris paul is famous for it..no hate for him

Genobli has been fined cointles times for flopping.

No hate for him.

[Philly]

Remember when Lebron got pissed and tried to drop boozer?
and looked like a huge pussy....hahahah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFnmJgxft_s

[Philly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgbHF5qKXTo

Or this one...

[Philly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8rGCH_HRdQ

this is a huge part of why I don't respect him as much.
That and his classless way of leaving Cleveland...not that Cleveland doesn't suck

[Inno]

word man he flops.

that shit is crazy...he should of got ejected in that first clip.


but heres a video proving my point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I65Lqjh4fo

see that...every single team every single player flops.

yet you guys pit that shit to LeBron

ok