long live the idols may they never be your rivals

[Orc]

Pac was like Jesus, Nas wrote the Bible


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLVjxHYXlI8

[Fig]

How that sound? Heres the crown, pass it to you like nothing nigga u aint let nas down.

Im jealous of J.cole right about now

[God Of War]

lol I just can't think nas is dope im sorry

[Malachi]

smh

[Orc]

God Of War im nt even like that about Nas but this song is fucking dope

[Chyeahhh!!!]

lol I just can't think nas is dope im sorry

you sounding like one of them "I think the world is still flat in 2013" niggas right about now lol

[Maximus]

Nas is doper than jay @gow, dont front

[Philly]

God Of War
...get on AIM cuzz

[God Of War]

Nas is doper than jay @gow, dont front

where is the proof to that? over ten number 1 albums? no. i dont think nas has done that. stayed relevant? no i dont think he done that either

rofl even nas personal life fails to jay esp after getting that beyonce knock off kelis pregnant with a little gay baby

[Fig]

This debate. It melts my balls.

[Joe Metts]

Nas had like 3 years of irrelevant time. 97-00.

Dudes act like reasonable doubt and volume 1 were selling like hotcakes at the time.

Nas and Jay are both top 5 easily.

[Joe Metts]

Even I am... had hit songs though.

So when was Nas irrelevant at all lol Nastradamous, that's it.

[Joe Metts]

And shoot em up was a hit.

[God Of War]

Even I am... had hit songs though.

So when was Nas irrelevant at all lol Nastradamous, that's it.

are you kidding me ? when was he relevant other then illmatic and that stupid stillmatic shit rofl u act like nas puts out albums every year and when he does its talked bout for a week and thats it

nas is a fcking canibus he is big n great to a bunch of underground rapers or a bunch of hip hop fans who try to make people think there on a deeper level thats all

[Philly]

Oh cool... Just ignore me completely though

[God Of War]

lmao i jus got back my g im getting on aim now

[Joe Metts]

All that's from your perspective.

I hang with people that wouldn't know vinnie paz, brother ali or ab soul if they threw their albums in their faces. I hate all 3 of those guys too btw. And everyone i know likes nas. Black, white whatever..maybe its an east coast thing.

But you're opinion is always fact. Worst person to argue with in history.

Millions of records sold and nobody likes him and he's irrelevant.

I got a news flash for you gow. Unless your Em or NELLY then nobody compares to Jay is sales.

Is Rakim not nice cause his sales. Is Nelly better? Is Chingy better the sigel, jada, styles? He had more number 1 records.

Is Will Smith a top 10 rapper. Look at that soundscan.

You don't like him. Thats cool.

Pretending nobody else should is just dumb.

[Chyeahhh!!!]

you talk bars over bullshit but you steady saying shit like, "look at there personal lives, jayz wheres bigger shoes, he's left handed, he's the man, etc"

sounds more like bullshit over bars.

[Chyeahhh!!!]

that nigga GOW be like, "look, I'm at the music store, you finished that background check on young jeezy yet? I'm thinking about buying his new album but that new Rick Ross shit looks thowed...(lmao)... but I heard that nigga ate KFC the other night and that shit made me throw up a few years ago, fuck that nigga"

[Evolve]

So Orc do you still prefer Yeezus?

[Wise Wiggles]

All that's from your perspective.

I hang with people that wouldn't know vinnie paz, brother ali or ab soul if they threw their albums in their faces. I hate all 3 of those guys too btw. And everyone i know likes nas. Black, white whatever..maybe its an east coast thing.

But you're opinion is always fact. Worst person to argue with in history.

Millions of records sold and nobody likes him and he's irrelevant.

I got a news flash for you gow. Unless your Em or NELLY then nobody compares to Jay is sales.

Is Rakim not nice cause his sales. Is Nelly better? Is Chingy better the sigel, jada, styles? He had more number 1 records.

Is Will Smith a top 10 rapper. Look at that soundscan.

You don't like him. Thats cool.

Pretending nobody else should is just dumb.

QFT

[E-Thugs inc.]

Tonio bout titties nigga.

[Evolve]

Nas > Jay-Z

This is an opinion. Do not argue with an opinion. Only retards argue with opinions. You can not change my opinion. I will disregard your attempts. Nas.

[Chyeahhh!!!]

All that's from your perspective.

I hang with people that wouldn't know vinnie paz, brother ali or ab soul if they threw their albums in their faces. I hate all 3 of those guys too btw. And everyone i know likes nas. Black, white whatever..maybe its an east coast thing.

But you're opinion is always fact. Worst person to argue with in history.

Millions of records sold and nobody likes him and he's irrelevant.

I got a news flash for you gow. Unless your Em or NELLY then nobody compares to Jay is sales.

Is Rakim not nice cause his sales. Is Nelly better? Is Chingy better the sigel, jada, styles? He had more number 1 records.

Is Will Smith a top 10 rapper. Look at that soundscan.

You don't like him. Thats cool.

Pretending nobody else should is just dumb.

Get that nigga metts!!!

[PancakeBrah]

Metts just destroyed 99% of internet arguments.

Just substitute 'Nas'/'Jay'/'Sales',etc. with whatever argument you're in on the internet. You'll look smart.

Well done.

[God Of War]

everyone thinks there opinnion is truth if you don't you're a fucking moron. can your mind be changed in this arguement? if not then shut the fuck up because mine can't be. im the worst person to argue with because I refuse to agree with you? thats absurd not to mention millions of people like soulja boy doesnt mean he is one of the greatest. also i present facts. nas hasnt been relevant the past 20 years. he dropped when in 94? everything is personal opinion unless you are going by stats in which case points can be proven.

[God Of War]

also @j.metts i came in and said i didnt like the track cuz i dont like nas. someone hit me with "nas is better hten jay" and i proceeded to give my opinion on why not. it was ur ass who nosed his way into it so dont get whiney when you put your nose in the middle of someone elses discussion and gets told what someone else thinks its life

[Rawn M.D.]

God Of War...srs question...do u not like nas, because some ppl hold him in high if not higher esteem as jay, or do u not like nas, and cant respect him as a rapper?

like do u not like nas in comparison to jay,
like do u not like nas bc ppl pit jay vs nas; thereby equating them
or
do u not like nas, like he is not listenable to u, and u dont respect his msg n think he has no skill

cuz i get u think jay>nas...that i understand...but im trying to get a sense to the degree u dont like nas not in comparison...ya feel

[...the Nagger]

J Cole seems cool but he just too boring for me

I can't willingly listen to his songs

[God Of War]

God Of War...srs question...do u not like nas, because some ppl hold him in high if not higher esteem as jay, or do u not like nas, and cant respect him as a rapper?

like do u not like nas in comparison to jay,
like do u not like nas bc ppl pit jay vs nas; thereby equating them
or
do u not like nas, like he is not listenable to u, and u dont respect his msg n think he has no skill

cuz i get u think jay>nas...that i understand...but im trying to get a sense to the degree u dont like nas not in comparison...ya feel

I dont think his music is great in general I think he came out with a good album and everyone hyped him up to an insane point and he has failed to live up to the hype since his first album dropped. I think he has one classic album and possibly 2 in almost 20 years of music and gets compared with the greats when theres artists who has done so much more in that area and doesnt get considered along with his name.

but thats opinion and its mine and im going to present it like its a fact because its a fact to me and if i post in a thread saying i didnt like nas verse and some one says "blah blah but nas is better then jay z" im going to argue the point all day.

dudes like metts cried "u think your opinion is fact" well so do u motherfucker or when you said he only had 3 irrelevant years you would of said " i think he only had three irrelevant years"

[Rawn M.D.]

word i feel u...i pretty much prefer Nas to Jay, but thas my opinion...however I would say they both top 5 in the past 2 decades of hiphop n can respect both...

but i guess u would not rank nas up that high...and i get that, its how u feel...i just wanted ur outlook to see if it was comparative or cumulative.

[...the Nagger]

I think nas is overrated personally and Jay saved his career

Without Ether Nas would be NOTHING right now

[God Of War]

word i feel u...i pretty much prefer Nas to Jay, but thas my opinion...however I would say they both top 5 in the past 2 decades of hiphop n can respect both...

but i guess u would not rank nas up that high...and i get that, its how u feel...i just wanted ur outlook to see if it was comparative or cumulative.

its because i think alot of artists has droped way better albums then nas and has done a shitload more in that area in 20 years then he done and he has been way to inconsistent for me to even be considered top 5

[...the Nagger]

Nas' last two albums were his best two besides illmatic?

this is what I hear ppl say I wouldn't know

and he still ain't exactly relevant

[God Of War]

I think nas is overrated personally and Jay saved his career

Without Ether Nas would be NOTHING right now

thank you eddie thats what im saying

[God Of War]

Nas' last two albums were his best two besides illmatic?

this is what I hear ppl say I wouldn't know

and he still ain't exactly relevant

make sure everything you say you state like its not a fact or metts gon get mad

[...the Nagger]

he's only relevant to dudes sittin on the stoop talmbout "hip hop is dead word up" eating subway wit backpacks on bumpin a boombox

its time to move on the 90s is done they been done

[Chyeahhh!!!]

g dub doesn't like Nas cause Nas used ether to burn Jays soul slow.....just checked.


shits still burning

[Chyeahhh!!!]

Nas' last two albums were his best two besides illmatic?

this is what I hear ppl say I wouldn't know

and he still ain't exactly relevant

nigga don't you think Camron is like top 5 dead or alive or some shit like that??

get yah gully gum drop jolly rancher trolly dancer ass outta here lmao your cardigan collar is cutting off circulation to your brain for you to think that somehow your opinion matters on topics of this caliber.

[Hush]

Gay ass sig

[Chyeahhh!!!]

Gay ass sig

it applies to you gay text niggas

[God Of War]

nigga don't you think Camron is like top 5 dead or alive or some shit like that??

get yah gully gum drop jolly rancher trolly dancer ass outta here lmao your cardigan collar is cutting off circulation to your brain for you to think that somehow your opinion matters on topics of this caliber.


lmao cam is better then nas

[Chyeahhh!!!]

fluck outta here lol

[Hush]

it applies to you gay text niggas

Im pretty sure you write wayyy more txt verses than I have in the last yr. You also got double my posts

Gay ass MSG board nigga

[...the Nagger]

nigga don't you think Camron is like top 5 dead or alive or some shit like that??

get yah gully gum drop jolly rancher trolly dancer ass outta here lmao your cardigan collar is cutting off circulation to your brain for you to think that somehow your opinion matters on topics of this caliber.

Yo why don't u like cam?

Impact wise yes I think cam is top 3

Wayne uses the style he used in 03 right now for cryin out loud

He was very influencial on rap AND our culture as a whole.

Its not just who I think is the best spitter.

Its just that jay cam and jada in their own right are them niggas imo

[God Of War]

Yo why don't u like cam?

Impact wise yes I think cam is top 3

Wayne uses the style he used in 03 right now for cryin out loud

He was very influencial on rap AND our culture as a whole.

Its not just who I think is the best spitter.

Its just that jay cam and jada in their own right are them niggas imo

that would probably be in my top 3

jada is a monster, cam is a monster and jay is a monster

i for some reason think fab is a beast to //after all them girly hits he had int he begining lol

[...the Nagger]

nigga don't you think Camron is like top 5 dead or alive or some shit like that??

get yah gully gum drop jolly rancher trolly dancer ass outta here lmao your cardigan collar is cutting off circulation to your brain for you to think that somehow your opinion matters on topics of this caliber.

that would probably be in my top 3

jada is a monster, cam is a monster and jay is a monster

i for some reason think fab is a beast to //after all them girly hits he had int he begining lol

Mixxtape fab is a beast

More street dreams >

[God Of War]

Mixxtape fab is a beast

More street dreams >

i was gon say mixtape fab lol but yeah he got bars

he used to kill it i thought on the dj clue shit when he was just coming out, then he drop the album and im like yooo where is the shit from clue at lol

[God Of War]

@metts

In debating each team will present points in favour of their case. They will also spend some time criticising the arguments presented by the other team. This is called rebuttal. There are a few things to remember about rebuttal.


1. Logic - to say that the other side is wrong is not enough. You have to show why the other side is wrong. This is best done by taking a main point of the other side's argument and showing that it does not make sense. Because a lot of the thinking for this needs to be done quickly this is one of the most challenging and enjoyable aspects of debating.

2. Pick the important points - try to rebut the most important points of the other side's case. You will find that after a while these are easier and easier to spot. One obvious spot to find them is when the first speaker of the other team outlines briefly what the rest of the team will say. But do not rebut those points until after they have actually been presented by the other team.


3. `Play the ball' - do not criticise the individual speakers, criticise what they say. To call someone fat, ugly or a nerd does not make what they say wrong and it will also lose you marks.

[Rawn M.D.]

i cant agree that cam top 3...can't do that...i enjoy listening to cam, i think he funny af n can b dope at times, but na, not top 3...no way.

[God Of War]

i cant agree that cam top 3...can't do that...i enjoy listening to cam, i think he funny af n can b dope at times, but na, not top 3...no way.

so in your opinion cam has been less relevant then nas?

[Rawn M.D.]

i would word it as nas been more relevent then cam..but bro i really enjoy nas...so im biased as fuck there...

i think i enjoy cam more then u enjoy nas tho God Of War

[Maximus]

Yeah, even Trinidad James is top 3

[God Of War]

i would word it as nas been more relevent then cam..but bro i really enjoy nas...so im biased as fuck there...

i think i enjoy cam more then u enjoy nas tho God Of War

lmao i dont enjoy nas at all is probably why

i think he got 1 or 2 verses i enjoyed

[Chyeahhh!!!]

Im pretty sure you write wayyy more txt verses than I have in the last yr. You also got double my posts

Gay ass MSG board nigga

hmm, maybe my initial application of said quote was misworded. My mistake, please allow me to rephrase. It applies to gay niggas like you that text. Is that better?

[Chyeahhh!!!]

He was very influencial on rap AND our culture as a whole.



oh yeah he influenced the culture alright

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZe4EXslQZ3UUstfiZ3Ye5baa90W45b t87pXWJvJtkNPCoOsS-QQ

[Rawn M.D.]

Lol w the pink

[...the Nagger]

oh yeah he influenced the culture alright

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZe4EXslQZ3UUstfiZ3Ye5baa90W45b t87pXWJvJtkNPCoOsS-QQ

Lol w the pink

yall laughin but at the same time that is the case

you can't deny cam no matter how much you dont like him or any of his movements, styles etc

it just is what it is

[God Of War]

yall laughin but at the same time that is the case

you can't deny cam no matter how much you dont like him or any of his movements, styles etc

it just is what it is

i remember cam had everyone wearing pink tbh

[Hush]

hmm, maybe my initial application of said quote was misworded. My mistake, please allow me to rephrase. It applies to gay niggas like you that text. Is that better?

Word. The fact u had to explain it and it's still wack speaks volumes as to why u can't win

[...the Nagger]

i cant agree that cam top 3...can't do that...i enjoy listening to cam, i think he funny af n can b dope at times, but na, not top 3...no way.

in what sense are you talking about with your top 3? because I have explained this 1329002 times, but yet ppl like chyeah and you continuously fail to understand me

[Rawn M.D.]

Eddy just as far to listen or vibe to.. Not necessarily impact on music... Although if I were to list they all impact I sure... I aint got a list tho so I won't front.... But yo I aint hating on cam or jay tbc... Jus personal preference n that what I'm speaking on... I know u take ur tip to another Lvl... Sales.. # releases.. Fanbase... Expansion out of hip hop to other areas... But I'm talking strictly personal preference.

[God Of War]

Eddy just as far to listen or vibe to.. Not necessarily impact on music... Although if I were to list they all impact I sure... I aint got a list tho so I won't front.... But yo I aint hating on cam or jay tbc... Jus personal preference n that what I'm speaking on... I know u take ur tip to another Lvl... Sales.. # releases.. Fanbase... Expansion out of hip hop to other areas... But I'm talking strictly personal preference.


i mean based on personal preference gucci mane could be the best lol

[...the Nagger]

personal preference

I only look for A$ap now a days

everything else just sounds like a single in the club to me or just wack/boring

like j cole. dude is just mad talented but dumb boring. how is that possible?

idk what kendrick lamar be talkin about?

I can't relate to dudes idk. i don't try. i don't care

[Rawn M.D.]

Well longevity factors too... But not necessarily sales

[God Of War]

personal preference

I only look for A$ap now a days

everything else just sounds like a single in the club to me or just wack/boring

like j cole. dude is just mad talented but dumb boring. how is that possible?

idk what kendrick lamar be talkin about?

I can't relate to dudes idk. i don't try. i don't care

havent listened to a$ap but im the same way shit has gotten crazy boring to me cant find anything to change that

was feeling that white dudes 10 thousand hours track but he more of an internet fad then something huge i guess i dont know

[Rawn M.D.]

I guess the best way to put what I'm trying to say is most listenable while also having something I can connect with or appreciate.. But ya hip hop for the most part is Smh to me as well now

[Chyeahhh!!!]

Word. The fact u had to explain it and it's still wack speaks volumes as to why u can't win


your chin speaks volumes. If your chin were a library, it would be the library of congress

books....volumes....exp

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