Once the Origin is seen.

[UnbornBuddha]

I wanted to give you a Parting Gift, but instead here's a Parlor Trick!
I Offer This simple advice "be an Honest Man, but that's Common Sense"
I don't have any birthday cake Candle Wish.
My Party Is basically the Wondrous voice I heard as I Sought Abyss.
My true love is so Out of This world, and yet it's still Part of It.
My Heart was Ripped when I began to understand the Dao De Jing.
I was Glad I Did, but a part of me was deeply saddened by the Amount I Did.
Having Comprehended the compendium I had to abandon Complex Friendships,
So as to pursue and Connect Senses of mine to the Guardian Essence,
The Grand Innocence that Grants Amidst Us humble servants sermons on eternal life carried in the Palms of Mystics.
With it pay witness when I Banish the Sadistic, the Anguish of Statistics; the Language of Cynicism Administering In Us sclerotic perceptions that Hold us Prisoners.
The Abode of Genesis has cleansed & burned my Soul of Fetishes.
The Golden Helixes of this cylindrical cyclical dimension is Mostly Endless. So instead of sulking drink this Gnosis Elixir.
One of my Homies Missing I only hope the Holiest Spirit gets him,
instead of the Omens In Him.
Poisoned by the strongest Focused Venom I detoxify by contemplating the Role of my Kingdom.
A Lowly Minion I've been given the eye to Know inner Being, and so helpless Ghosts come for Wisdom, some for Hope and other Reasons.
Every Instant your Pensive trying to Diminish the Limits constructed by that which believes Witnesses its Thinking is time wasted defeating a non-Existent Behemoth.
It'll serve you well to listen to the Idiom of this Idiot it'll purge the most Insidious Nemesis hiding in your Limbs and Appendages.
My Wit is Unrelenting, yet it yields for there's no need to be Swift and Defensive.
People's nervous System are Precious, so why are they so Quick to get Tension.
Maybe they want a Bit of Attention, but I know a Better Medicine Instead of Adrenaline
To Rid the Infections that fester and cause the need for bacterial Resistant Penicillin.
I'm building a true weapon against pestilent Bacterial Species.
Lately I've been having Malaria's Symptoms, a true Pathogenesis
That metaphorically is representing the Path I'm Heading.
Because all sickness is symbolic that the Body Cleansing of Toxic Resins.
Experiences that Linger cause a Seriousness that Bewilder even the most Privileged Physician.
The Pivot of Significant nourishment comes when one let's go, but that's Risking Everything you thought Glistened your Minutes In this Physical Existence.
But that's just temporary happiness, a Visual Efficient of a Distal Fruition.
Sinister Conditions cause Myriads of Petitions, the most Curious of Volition to rise in Areas of Division.
But with this madness Delirium is the Tuition.
But this sword of wisdom of Manjusri's has an incision of precision that causes oblivion to demons living in your innards which are keeping you from a Blissful Admission into the most Peaceful of Missions, seeing Into your Origin.

[brokenhal0]

you know what time it is good stuff peace

[dead man]

I feel as though we've met before...

What are your past aliases?

[veritas]

But this sword of wisdom of Manjusri's has an incision of precision that causes oblivion to demons living in your innards which are keeping you from a Blissful Admission into the most Peaceful of Missions, seeing Into your Origin.


hmmm...........I will keep the council informed of your progress.

[UnbornBuddha]

Well I'm also known by very few individuals as Childrenguild. But that's just a name, an idea of transforming back to the childlike wonder that once contained the pristine innocent pure mind. I've also gone by the names of Apocalypse, and Empty Cloud. But anyways, I don't believe we've met before considering that I only posted once in this site long ago with another name I can't remember for the life in me.

[UnbornBuddha]

But this sword of wisdom of Manjusri's has an incision of precision that causes oblivion to demons living in your innards which are keeping you from a Blissful Admission into the most Peaceful of Missions, seeing Into your Origin.


hmmm...........I will keep the council informed of your progress.

I am not interested in notions such as progress. But thank for your volunteering to do so.

[veritas]

I am not interested in notions such as progress. But thank for your volunteering to do so.

I find your condescending mendacity makes me say pshaw.


Pshaw.

[UnbornBuddha]

I find your condescending mendacity makes me say pshaw.


Pshaw.

You can think or perceive what I say as you wish, it's your own inner world after all. But like the Daoist so called immortals proclaim "an angry person lives in angry world, a sad person lives in a sad world, and a loving person lives in a loving world.
When once condescends one looks down upon others, thus the very meaning proclaims some kind of self superiority. But I'm the lowliest of the lowly with nothing special to brag about. I only try to see the inner light in others, not their faults because the indescribable heavenly mind is innate in all things, sentient or not.
Also untruthfulness is not the conduct of how I proceed in this world. But again, you are free to feel, see, hear as you wish. Even though animosity, disdain, contempt block the unconditional heart from shining its majestic brilliance. Good day.

[veritas]

Hey buddy,

I see thru this. Let me ask you: Who is Jesus Christ>?

[DexLabb]

holy fuck dude this guy thinks he;s a priest. weirdo alert send the dogs.. someone take that one girl that posts here off her leash!

[UnbornBuddha]

holy fuck dude this guy thinks he;s a priest. weirdo alert send the dogs.. someone take that one girl that posts here off her leash!

You can say whatever you wish of me. You can call me stupid, weird, moronic, insane, and any other plethora of insults you can conjure up. You don't really effect me. But I do know this one thing, those who spent time insulting, and trying to hurt others are only doing so because they themselves are hurting. Anyways I wish you health and happiness.

[Witty]

I like you.

We are friends now.

Veritas smells like poop irl.

[DexLabb]

dont act like u wish me piece and hapiness. ur the type of guy to front like their happy then shoot up the batman theatre

[PancakeBrah]

This dude is the biggest blowhard. Full stop

Wow.

[big baby]

I find your condescending mendacity makes me say pshaw.


Pshaw.

ever since you googled mendacity to pretend to prove you know a lot of words you've used it three times on this website. new word please.

[UnbornBuddha]

dont act like u wish me piece and hapiness. ur the type of guy to front like their happy then shoot up the batman theatre

Believe it or not, there are beings in this world who have transformed their heart so as to show unconditional love. To exemplify virtue, compassion, mercy, kindness, and benevolence. For there is suffering in this world, but there's also paradise in this world.
You also accuse me of harboring a hidden intent using a false pretense of happiness so as to masquerade a maliciousness brewing inside. But this are simply your fabrications because you still are trying to get a reaction from others, and so your more like the psychopath you accuse me to be.
Your the one masquerading your innate goodness with this upholding of what you believe yourself to be.
Seeing the world with one's own mental perversities then the world will be perceived turbid and perverse. But if you changed your portals, your sensory orifices, then you too can pierce into the dimensions beyond the malignancies you have grasped on to, as normal sight, hearing, touch, and smell. Wholeheartedly believing so and so must be like this or that is due to conditioning. I believe in innate goodness, and so I know your words come from a place of not knowing who you are. But beyond this unresolved exterior you are still innately but unknowingly powered, and moved by the same force that is omnipresent in all.

[UnbornBuddha]

This dude is the biggest blowhard. Full stop

Wow.

Thank you for your feedback. I will keep it mind. But on the other hand, I suggest you to pay heed to what's in front of your eyes. Then you'll understand, then we could laugh together, and write peacefully together.

[PancakeBrah]

lol this nigga trollin

or he dumb af cuz

[UnbornBuddha]

lol this nigga trollin

or he dumb af cuz

I can see you haven't opened your eyes. But it's okay, and no my intent was not for trollin it was to get feedback on a forum that I was told had open minded writers. But instead I find arrogant prideful men who haven't understood the essence of writing, some are very nice I may add. But some only understand the technicalities, but do not know the transmission and the power words hold in being able to refine, and nurture one's connection to one's spirit. Sometimes some write to vent out the emotional stagnation, such as frustration so as to feel better almost like a medicine. Others write for fun, or even a good old spar. Others write directly as a means to communicate what paradoxically cannot be communicated about. In this case their transmitting a resonance. Others write to heal themselves, to communicate a certain perspective, or realization. But all of these and more are from a place of lightheartedness, or one's attempt to reach it at least. But the burdens that lie heavy in the heart still weight you I see. If not you'll understand how you should take each person that talks to you with open arms, and with gratitude.

[DexLabb]

THIS GUY IS A FUCKING LEGEND!!!!! I LOVE THIS GUY!!!!!

[PancakeBrah]

I can see you haven't opened your eyes. But it's okay, and no my intent was not for trollin it was to get feedback on a forum that I was told had open minded writers. But instead I find arrogant prideful men who haven't understood the essence of writing, some are very nice I may add. But some only understand the technicalities, but do not know the transmission and the power words hold in being able to refine, and nurture one's connection to one's spirit. Sometimes some write to vent out the emotional stagnation, such as frustration so as to feel better almost like a medicine. Others write for fun, or even a good old spar. Others write directly as a means to communicate what paradoxically cannot be communicated about. In this case their transmitting a resonance. Others write to heal themselves, to communicate a certain perspective, or realization. But all of these and more are from a place of lightheartedness, or one's attempt to reach it at least. But the burdens that lie heavy in the heart still weight you I see. If not you'll understand how you should take each person that talks to you with open arms, and with gratitude.

so the second option?

duly noted nigga

[DexLabb]

One of my Homies Missin,
I only hope the Holiest Spirit gets him,instead of the Omens In Him.

[Zen]

I hate the fact that the majority of the most replied threads in the om are noobs arguing in their own threads. For someone who's at peace with himself you sure do try real hard to make sure everyone knows it, which says to me that you're not. Especially since you got mad at one person who said nothing to you. I'll let you figure out which person that was since you still don't know lol

This verse was cool though.

[PancakeBrah]

http://web.yesnetwork.com/images/announcers/th_mkay_160x191.jpg

[UnbornBuddha]

I hate the fact that the majority of the most replied threads in the om are noobs arguing in their own threads. For someone who's at peace with himself you sure do try real hard to make sure everyone knows it, which says to me that you're not. Especially since you got mad at one person who said nothing to you. I'll let you figure out which person that was since you still don't know lol

This verse was cool though.

First of all I thank you humbly for the message, and your observations.
And I'm definitely not mad my friend, I speak due to my vows to help sentient beings remember the wordless perfected state beyond sickness, death, misfortune, and even the temporary happiness and peace most settle for, though like this life they have a fleeting nature.
Why do I speak then? Because like I said many will ostracize me, but even if just one will understand the pathless viewless wordless kingdom that is innate then I will continue speaking to others in diligence of its eternal presence.
The tongue under the auspice of the heart is the sword of wisdom that cuts through the veil of ignorance in this age of darkness, though I admit sometimes it may appear as if swung with more ferocity than the wielder intended. But the delusions in this age of darkness are strong, and one must learn to use everything possible even verbose to cut through the miasma that is tarnishing the soul. Though that too is a belief, and view that is easily dismissible once one understands and sees for oneself that one's true heart cannot be tainted.
As for having hate I would think this man named Zen would have comprehended the statement of being in the state beyond progress and regression. It was mind assassin who did not understand the statement about the attribute less Unborn, deathless uncreated mind, and took it as if I condescended him.

Those who know themselves, but also humble themselves in the acknowledgement of knowing nothing speak from the heart, speak even if it rattles others cages. I take it you are not part of the Mahayana path, and do not understand what is skillful means. I would think a person named Zen would know what Chan is about.

[veritas]

I can see you haven't opened your eyes. But it's okay, and no my intent was not for trollin it was to get feedback on a forum that I was told had open minded writers. But instead I find arrogant prideful men who haven't understood the essence of writing, some are very nice I may add. But some only understand the technicalities, but do not know the transmission and the power words hold in being able to refine, and nurture one's connection to one's spirit. Sometimes some write to vent out the emotional stagnation, such as frustration so as to feel better almost like a medicine. Others write for fun, or even a good old spar. Others write directly as a means to communicate what paradoxically cannot be communicated about. In this case their transmitting a resonance. Others write to heal themselves, to communicate a certain perspective, or realization. But all of these and more are from a place of lightheartedness, or one's attempt to reach it at least. But the burdens that lie heavy in the heart still weight you I see. If not you'll understand how you should take each person that talks to you with open arms, and with gratitude.


do you sin?

[Zen]

First of all I thank you humbly for the message, and your observations.
And I'm definitely not mad my friend, I speak due to my vows to help sentient beings remember the wordless perfected state beyond sickness, death, misfortune, and even the temporary happiness and peace most settle for, though like this life they have a fleeting nature.
Why do I speak then? Because like I said many will ostracize me, but even if just one will understand the pathless viewless wordless kingdom that is innate then I will continue speaking to others in diligence of its eternal presence.
The tongue under the auspice of the heart is the sword of wisdom that cuts through the veil of ignorance in this age of darkness, though I admit sometimes it may appear as if swung with more ferocity than the wielder intended. But the delusions in this age of darkness are strong, and one must learn to use everything possible even verbose to cut through the miasma that is tarnishing the soul. Though that too is a belief, and view that is easily dismissible once one understands and sees for oneself that one's true heart cannot be tainted.
As for having hate I would think this man named Zen would have comprehended the statement of being in the state beyond progress and regression. It was mind assassin who did not understand the statement about the attribute less Unborn, deathless uncreated mind, and took it as if I condescended him.

Those who know themselves, but also humble themselves in the acknowledgement of knowing nothing speak from the heart, speak even if it rattles others cages. I take it you are not part of the Mahayana path, and do not understand what is skillful means. I would think a person named Zen would know what Chan is about.

I hate it when people say that. I was a Buddhist for several years, but not anymore. One thing I never noticed another Buddhist do is to say that someone else was wrong and that their own beliefs were the right way. I don't see that in you. You never said that explicitly, but it was implied in everything you said. I don't doubt your beliefs one bit, but they seem to be misguided. Buddha says to walk the middle path. You're going over the deep end with each post trying to convince everyone to think just like you, or to give the appearance that you're enlightened and the rest of us are ignorant. Especially with your last sentence you typed towards me in a very non-buddhist tone (lol @ tone through text). Zen is to be impartial to other people's beliefs and only care on what you think because reality is subjective to the person experiencing it. All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become. I'm no more Zen than anyone else here just as you are no more Zen than anyone else. Like I said, you seem sincere but very misguided. I say this because you speak for a wordless kingdom.

[UnbornBuddha]

I hate it when people say that. I was a Buddhist for several years, but not anymore. One thing I never noticed another Buddhist do is to say that someone else was wrong and that their own beliefs were the right way. I don't see that in you. You never said that explicitly, but it was implied in everything you said. I don't doubt your beliefs one bit, but they seem to be misguided. Buddha says to walk the middle path. You're going over the deep end with each post trying to convince everyone to think just like you, or to give the appearance that you're enlightened and the rest of us are ignorant. Especially with your last sentence you typed towards me in a very non-buddhist tone (lol @ tone through text). Zen is to be impartial to other people's beliefs and only care on what you think because reality is subjective to the person experiencing it. All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become. I'm no more Zen than anyone else here just as you are no more Zen than anyone else. Like I said, you seem sincere but very misguided. I say this because you speak for a wordless kingdom.

Right or wrong both miss the mark. Not right or wrong misses the mark too. And I employ Buddhist terminology but I'm not a Buddhist. To brand oneself and categorize oneself is already to step away from that which is without name. The mystical unnameless is the same for all, no matter the religion. So to me Buddhism is irrelevent.
But you haven't studied well, I can tell by your notions of such a relative thing called enlightenment, and the way you present your understanding.
I can tell you weren't a very studious Buddhist because when the Buddha speaks of mind he is not speaking of the mind that thinks. He was speaking of the mind, the supreme self, which is not an entity yet an awareness that pervades all, and transcends all turbid, and pure, all spiritual, and wordly.
Christian mystics and saints, Sikhs, Muslim Sufis, Hindu mystics, Buddhists mahasiddhas and reishis describe it as undescribable, wordless yet it is the one that spontaneously hears, sees, speaks, smells all without the rising of a single thought. Good is done effortlessly. Though in truth, there is no good in this uncreated awareness.
And it is truly wordless even the Buddha could not describe it, and yet this Buddha mind, God Mind, the Dao, Allah whatever you call it moves those very fingers you are typing this message with. It animates your vessel.
As for your statement of being misguided you state this because you have a preconception of what certain people with certain beliefs should act, "non buddhist tone" I'm sure you have heard of Ksitigarbha the saint that went to hell to save others. Hell to him was not hell, it became a paradise. Have you also heard of Nagarjuna who debated countless of others in theological debates, not for the sake of proving himself right, but to speak of that which has no view because no attribute can fully elucidate it.
You still live in the world of misguidedness and of righteousness, of enlightenment, and of delusion. Take away both notions, all notions and views, and it appears right before your very eyes, no need to follow rules. Rules, commandments and precepts are made for those who do evil. Commit no more evil, and there's no need to follow any more rules.
As for Zen it means to be neither impartial or partial, partial yet impartial, impartial yet partial, and both impartial and partial. To contain the whole universe in your heart, yet not hold on to anything. To know and sit in one's true nature.

[Split]

Don't capitalize your rhymes

[UnbornBuddha]

do you sin?

To simply answer your question: yes and no.
When one lives from habitual impulses this so called sin is inevetible. It almosts seems impossible to break away from, even if one gave their best effort, and so one reverts back to it believing that one cannot escape from it, so why even try? But there is also a purity so pure that no sin can enter. When one becomes one with this uncreated primordial will then one has access to its boundless wisdom. This wisdom, one not born out from anything of this world or other, empowers and enables you to distinguish between the true and the false in any given place or age. Hence you are liberated, free from any further suffering born out of ignorance and error, including sin. Though one still has to go through the consequences of their actions. This isn't antinomianism what I'm speaking of, where one does all kinds of atrocious acts and one believes salvation to be at hand. But rather that sin cannot sully one anymore, but also one doesn't have the urge to eliminate it from one's heart because one doesn't follow it nor even try to purify it because it is not real. In other words, to speak from a Abrahamic perspective and what they call the divine. Once one merges with the divine then one becomes one with it. A mystic named Meister Eickhart said "the same eye that sees God is the same eye that God sees me" one in the same being. Thus, since God cannot sin when merged with it one cannot sin either, and only goodness sprouts from, though truly it is not good in the normal sense because it is beyond both good and evil.
Though if one keeps misidentifying as impure then one will always feel the need to purify, though intrinsically there is nothing to alleviate. The true imageless spirit, whatever one calls it, is already healed.

[UnbornBuddha]

Don't capitalize your rhymes

OK. It's more to keep track of them for me. But I'll just lowercase everything when I'm finished. Thank you.

[Zen]

Right or wrong both miss the mark. Not right or wrong misses the mark too. And I employ Buddhist terminology but I'm not a Buddhist. To brand oneself and categorize oneself is already to step away from that which is without name. The mystical unnameless is the same for all, no matter the religion. So to me Buddhism is irrelevent.
But you haven't studied well, I can tell by your notions of such a relative thing called enlightenment, and the way you present your understanding.
I can tell you weren't a very studious Buddhist because when the Buddha speaks of mind he is not speaking of the mind that thinks. He was speaking of the mind, the supreme self, which is not an entity yet an awareness that pervades all, and transcends all turbid, and pure, all spiritual, and wordly.
Christian mystics and saints, Sikhs, Muslim Sufis, Hindu mystics, Buddhists mahasiddhas and reishis describe it as undescribable, wordless yet it is the one that spontaneously hears, sees, speaks, smells all without the rising of a single thought. Good is done effortlessly. Though in truth, there is no good in this uncreated awareness.
And it is truly wordless even the Buddha could not describe it, and yet this Buddha mind, God Mind, the Dao, Allah whatever you call it moves those very fingers you are typing this message with. It animates your vessel.
As for your statement of being misguided you state this because you have a preconception of what certain people with certain beliefs should act, "non buddhist tone" I'm sure you have heard of Ksitigarbha the saint that went to hell to save others. Hell to him was not hell, it became a paradise. Have you also heard of Nagarjuna who debated countless of others in theological debates, not for the sake of proving himself right, but to speak of that which has no view because no attribute can fully elucidate it.
You still live in the world of misguidedness and of righteousness, of enlightenment, and of delusion. Take away both notions, all notions and views, and it appears right before your very eyes, no need to follow rules. Rules, commandments and precepts are made for those who do evil. Commit no more evil, and there's no need to follow any more rules.
As for Zen it means to be neither impartial or partial, partial yet impartial, impartial yet partial, and both impartial and partial. To contain the whole universe in your heart, yet not hold on to anything. To know and sit in one's true nature.
For someone who claims to know nothing, you act like you know more.

[Mitch]

Yo Buddha I got some wisdom. I'm not saying anything, but i'm saying a lot. Believing reality is an illusion is dangerous and unhealthy. Overthinking philosophy about the nature of reality isn't good, one minute you can be fine, the next you could be suicidal, if you 'understood' reality as an illusion, that is. That understanding is bad, especially for people who aren't strong in their brain wave voodoo power radial spectrum vacuum cups. Overthinking this stuff is walking a thin line, dangling on the precipice of insanity, one slip, one wrong thought, you could do damage, tread carefully grass hopper.

[UnbornBuddha]

For someone who claims to know nothing, you act like you know more.

That's because what I know more of is nothing but that which cannot be known, the light that never dims and shines in the abyss.
To know nothing does not mean to not know anything, but to return to the selfless abode so that one's beloved fills this emptiness, the void. Losing everything one gains everything. The role we play in this life are myriad, but your heartbeart and mine are not different in essence. We do drink from the same ambrosia, but unfortunately not everyone sees the miracle that is happening before them, but everyone is entitled to the same miracle, and in an instant one can realize it, and heal because miracles transcend all time. Peace, and goodnight my bretheren.

[UnbornBuddha]

Yo Buddha I got some wisdom. I'm not saying anything, but i'm saying a lot. Believing reality is an illusion is dangerous and unhealthy. Overthinking philosophy about the nature of reality isn't good, one minute you can be fine, the next you could be suicidal, if you 'understood' reality as an illusion, that is. That understanding is bad, especially for people who aren't strong in their brain wave voodoo power radial spectrum vacuum cups. Overthinking this stuff is walking a thin line, dangling on the precipice of insanity, one slip, one wrong thought, you could do damage, tread carefully grass hopper.

Yes I wholeheartedly agree. But insanity in this quest comes only due to being ungrounded from reality wanting to escape from it, and ascend. But one who endures, stays in this world to help, and sees the heavenly wonder that is already inherent everywhere you go. And by illusion it is said to mean the world to be dream like, spontaneously happening like magic. And so one laughs joyously at the interconnected concatenation of it all. Illusion does not mean false or nothing at all, that is the doctine of the nihilists. But instead magic like, and dream like appearing, moving and dissapearing like clouds and all other phenomena. But what witnesses the clouds is a mind, a spirit that can not dissapear, appear, die, or be created. And so in truth awaken your not susceptible to the comings and goings of this dream.

Alchemy is the redemption of the spirit from matter. So one can discard all suffering in this very life. One can go to the movies, have a nice wife hopefully a not bickering one, and have a good night sleep. One is completely ordinary, the only thing is Whatever you say, whatever you do, all is the truth. You again find yourself in dusty world and cross rivers and lakes as you will and please. You are not a Great Holy Sage, but an ordinary common folk. There are tears of wonder even if you are looking as average tramp and nobody recognizes or respects you. Anyway such a respect and recognition are a laughing stock for your free mind of true master. You welcome all events with an open heart and peaceful mind. Before you knew nothing and nothing you know now. Only difference is you are an original man who accomplished his task and has nothing else to seek, With nothing to do, you pass over worlds of universe with a smile and satisfaction. Being ordinary you pass water and move your bowels without any hindrance.
Whatever you do, you don't lose a bit of happiness and your luck grows endlessly. Now you are a Man who has 10 000 pieces of gold to spend each and every day without ever emptying your treasure house. It is completely up to you where you want to go or where you want to stay. You are no more a subject for others to direct you and all dangers of the world cannot imprison you through fear or starvation. Your plate overflows with food and your eyes meet only friends everywhere they turn.

Although it is only you who is free, there are multitudes of those undergoing great suffering. Once you realize you are the truth and you are One universe and the universe is already the truth. Everything in the universe is the truth then as it is. Then you too can help those around you.

[DexLabb]

somebody needs to get this guy some pussy. the moment he ejaculates into a sweet blossom flowerer or w.e. hell start screaming out wocka flocka

[DexLabb]

KEEP IT REAL N DONT LIE SMOKE BLUNTS TILL I DIE... IN THE TRAP W THE HIT SQUADS KILLERS SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE TO BRICK SQUAD NIQQQQQQQA

[UnbornBuddha]

somebody needs to get this guy some pussy. the moment he ejaculates into a sweet blossom flowerer or w.e. hell start screaming out wocka flocka

Bwahaha if your going to insult me be creative, instead you use your own debuachery, and your love failures and try to latch them onto me as comedic value.
Whatever you resonate is what you attract, and with that kind of attitude I bet you cannot keep a good woman by your side. But if you do, and I hope you do you should learn from her sweet blossom, and perhaps some of its sweetness would replace some of that bitterneess because right now you sound like a grumpy old man who gets no action himself!

[veritas]

To simply answer your question: yes and no.
When one lives from habitual impulses this so called sin is inevetible. It almosts seems impossible to break away from, even if one gave their best effort, and so one reverts back to it believing that one cannot escape from it, so why even try? But there is also a purity so pure that no sin can enter. When one becomes one with this uncreated primordial will then one has access to its boundless wisdom. This wisdom, one not born out from anything of this world or other, empowers and enables you to distinguish between the true and the false in any given place or age. Hence you are liberated, free from any further suffering born out of ignorance and error, including sin. Though one still has to go through the consequences of their actions. This isn't antinomianism what I'm speaking of, where one does all kinds of atrocious acts and one believes salvation to be at hand. But rather that sin cannot sully one anymore, but also one doesn't have the urge to eliminate it from one's heart because one doesn't follow it nor even try to purify it because it is not real. In other words, to speak from a Abrahamic perspective and what they call the divine. Once one merges with the divine then one becomes one with it. A mystic named Meister Eickhart said "the same eye that sees God is the same eye that God sees me" one in the same being. Thus, since God cannot sin when merged with it one cannot sin either, and only goodness sprouts from, though truly it is not good in the normal sense because it is beyond both good and evil.
Though if one keeps misidentifying as impure then one will always feel the need to purify, though intrinsically there is nothing to alleviate. The true imageless spirit, whatever one calls it, is already healed.


OK so to summarize ....you get in the God eye and then you no longer sin right?

[Witty]

This guy said he employs Buddhist terminology but is not a Buddhist.

Don't be using their fucking terminology then, why would you do that if you don't prescribe to the belief?

You're a fraud, in other words...you have convinced yourself you have all the answers, you are arrogant and cover it with modesty...that is the worst kind of arrogance. talking about being all about love and peace but can't even find the peace inside to not react angrily or follow insults with insults...you want to believe what you say you believe, you want to have the appearance and the personality of someone who is completely at peace with themselve and who knows how to live life happily, but your words of condescension and arrogance prove the opposite to be true.

You are just as sad and unhappy inside as anyone, and you know it...so stop preaching dude, write your shit and stfu.

You're a fraud and you know little about which you speak.

[Kin]

best section for me

Having Comprehended the compendium I had to abandon Complex Friendships,
So as to pursue and Connect Senses of mine to the Guardian Essence,
-That was Gravy...niiice

about half way thru' the lines started stretching longer in order to fit all your thoughts into them...made it more of a poem to me as I read...

liked the 1st quarter the most... the rest was juz a deep reading...but it was well written...lotta insight here

HoLLa

[dead man]

This thread became very tiresome and blowhard very quickly.

Stahp

[gitto138]

There is a god

[dull boy]

What's a blowhard?

[Zen]

This guy said he employs Buddhist terminology but is not a Buddhist.

Don't be using their fucking terminology then, why would you do that if you don't prescribe to the belief?

You're a fraud, in other words...you have convinced yourself you have all the answers, you are arrogant and cover it with modesty...that is the worst kind of arrogance. talking about being all about love and peace but can't even find the peace inside to not react angrily or follow insults with insults...you want to believe what you say you believe, you want to have the appearance and the personality of someone who is completely at peace with themselve and who knows how to live life happily, but your words of condescension and arrogance prove the opposite to be true.

You are just as sad and unhappy inside as anyone, and you know it...so stop preaching dude, write your shit and stfu.

You're a fraud and you know little about which you speak.

This was my point but I had a feeling I was being trolled right after I sent it so I stopped lol. Happy late birthday btw.

[DexLabb]

besides, buddhism is simply a coping mechanism. ur basically letting go of ur ego which is effectively a rationalization anyway. if anything, u were forced into these buddhist teachings because u were alone and helpless and picked up on it because it psychologically allowed you to be a loser. u basically empowered urself instead of going out going to the gym, learning to talk to people and improving ur life. buddhism and all religions are a social construct anyway. look at the monks, they have a shit life with no internet. if i didnt have internet ur damn right i would go bat shit crazy

[UnbornBuddha]

besides, buddhism is simply a coping mechanism. ur basically letting go of ur ego which is effectively a rationalization anyway. if anything, u were forced into these buddhist teachings because u were alone and helpless and picked up on it because it psychologically allowed you to be a loser. u basically empowered urself instead of going out going to the gym, learning to talk to people and improving ur life. buddhism and all religions are a social construct anyway. look at the monks, they have a shit life with no internet. if i didnt have internet ur damn right i would go bat shit crazy

You may not believe it now, and you can convince yourself subconsciously that life's corporeality are the only pleasantries, but there will come the time when you will find a need to praise those you humiliate, and those with shit lives will become your hero's. As for the social construct, all that which you have been speaking from has been an archetype of social construction. In truth, you will not lose anything having let go of the tangible aspects of existence that you convince yourself are life's joyous aspects. One cannot escape suffering in this life, and one can temporarily numb it and subdue it, but it will only become latent, and since the psycho-neuro- immunological aspects of the body mind spirit complex are connected, one's ignoring of one body (the spirit, one's emotions, what one hasn't let go of, the traumas) is bound to affect the other. You speak of helplessness because you have experienced it, but instead of being empowered by acknowledging your frailty you became scared of it, and build a barricade against it. Sometimes we need to go through helplessness to discover help. Sometimes we go through hopelessness to discover hope.

[UnbornBuddha]

This guy said he employs Buddhist terminology but is not a Buddhist.

Don't be using their fucking terminology then, why would you do that if you don't prescribe to the belief?

You're a fraud, in other words...you have convinced yourself you have all the answers, you are arrogant and cover it with modesty...that is the worst kind of arrogance. talking about being all about love and peace but can't even find the peace inside to not react angrily or follow insults with insults...you want to believe what you say you believe, you want to have the appearance and the personality of someone who is completely at peace with themselve and who knows how to live life happily, but your words of condescension and arrogance prove the opposite to be true.

You are just as sad and unhappy inside as anyone, and you know it...so stop preaching dude, write your shit and stfu.

You're a fraud and you know little about which you speak.

Buddhism may have rituals of religious liturgies, and religious hierarchies. But that is simply to establish and keep the lineage going under a social disguise, so to help those who are entrapped in suffering. In truth, it is a inner science and like other mystical arts not content with theories, but actual results. It only adapted to such order (the Sangha) so to help adherents find it easier to transition into that which has no order. So one can hone and keep a calm tide even among a tsunami, or the worse of storms, symbolized by chaos. Being able to emanate light, even when confronting hellish situations. It's terminology is not something exclusive to it, it does a good job though at describing the changes that goes about when one transforms oneself into gold.
I point to man's true nature in his heart, and sometimes that barrier of resistance is protected by their inner demons, and fortified by their pestilent emotions, thought patterns, and addictions that create resistance. I do not seek peace nor love because the more one seeks for them the less one has them. Peace and love are already intrinsic, but not superficial peace and love that dissipates and scatters when the going gets rough, and the comfortable things in life fade. But a peace as deep and hardened as one's bones in their youth, able to withstand and transform even the worse of conditions, all sickness, and upheaval and still maintain a calm heart.
Also you haven't really counteracted any of what I've said, and only pick and choose statements, nitpicking as they call it. I acknowledge I bring challenge out of people, and many here reject me because I speak of things many don't speak of, and that brings out a resistance I fully understand. When some other person insults you you insult them back with usual verbose you are used to. But you cannot insult that which you do not understand, although you desperately try to categorize and devalue what I say so as to fit a paradigm your life has experienced because the abyss usually brings out fear.
But there is nothing to fear, because the true illuminate light never leaves you, even when your surrounded by so called darkness.
As for preaching, you are preaching a view right now. You get preached views, and perceptions of the world all the time by people trying to indoctrinate you. But what I and others speak of. not just me I'm not special, we speak of that which is beyond all views, and no views because one can easily say no view is a view as well. So what I'm imparting is not a particular set of beliefs, but simply to be aware of that awareness in you that transcends life and death, sickness, and all other maladies. Because no one in life can escape suffering, sickness or death. Although many experience it at various degrees, some more than others.
Good or bad opinion or no opinion it doesn't matter what matters is that at least one word of this, one resonance of this meaning frees you from that which and binding, and constricting. the heart.
As for this "worse of kind modest arrogance" I accept your views and propositions of what I am, but I know who I am because there is nothing left of me, and having let myself go the Suchness appeared. The beloved appeared. But who are you? Remember back to before you were born, or the pristine state you arrived into this world with, but abandoned, however being omnipresent it has never abandoned you.

[Split]

I like your wording/ the technicality of your writing. Everything is stitched together well. I think presentation could be better (capitalizing rhymes, thread title choice).

The rhymes were nonstandard and flowed together well.


The intro was rough.. you didn't provide any motivation/ reasoning for "seeking abyss" and the frame story of the birthday party felt forced. Just let it come across as a philosophical treatise a la Coup or Veritas.

This was an "enlightenment flex" almost. Cool. You have a scholarly, abstract style that relies a lot on the reader's dissection of your collected themes. A mosaic/ modular narrative method. In places I was a tad lost in the references, more like a museum at night rather than a forest at dawn.

Favorite line-

"Every Instant your Pensive trying to Diminish the Limits constructed by that which believes Witnesses its Thinking is time wasted defeating a non-Existent Behemoth."

conceptually sound & very rhythmic, though very dense. Looking forward to reading one of your stories/ "show, don't tell" type drops

[DexLabb]

Sometimes we need to go through helplessness to discover help. Sometimes we go through hopelessness to discover hope

how can i even respond to that? you talk alot of nonsense but sometimes its not nonsense.. that shit was the realest talk i have read on this website for some time.

i will say tho, you cant browbeat people for finding meaning in pursuing success and valuable things. because life is intrinsically pointless, the only purpose of life is to extend the living potential of our species...staying alive and setting up a better life for our kids and their kids. success ties straight into that. and dont try to tell me that the meek will inherit the earth. cause aside from alien intervention (lol) and a mass catastrophic event, the meek will be weeded out through natural selection

[Witty]

Buddhism may have rituals of religious liturgies, and religious hierarchies. But that is simply to establish and keep the lineage going under a social disguise, so to help those who are entrapped in suffering. In truth, it is a inner science and like other mystical arts not content with theories, but actual results. It only adapted to such order (the Sangha) so to help adherents find it easier to transition into that which has no order. So one can hone and keep a calm tide even among a tsunami, or the worse of storms, symbolized by chaos. Being able to emanate light, even when confronting hellish situations. It's terminology is not something exclusive to it, it does a good job though at describing the changes that goes about when one transforms oneself into gold.
I point to man's true nature in his heart, and sometimes that barrier of resistance is protected by their inner demons, and fortified by their pestilent emotions, thought patterns, and addictions that create resistance. I do not seek peace nor love because the more one seeks for them the less one has them. Peace and love are already intrinsic, but not superficial peace and love that dissipates and scatters when the going gets rough, and the comfortable things in life fade. But a peace as deep and hardened as one's bones in their youth, able to withstand and transform even the worse of conditions, all sickness, and upheaval and still maintain a calm heart.
Also you haven't really counteracted any of what I've said, and only pick and choose statements, nitpicking as they call it. I acknowledge I bring challenge out of people, and many here reject me because I speak of things many don't speak of, and that brings out a resistance I fully understand. When some other person insults you you insult them back with usual verbose you are used to. But you cannot insult that which you do not understand, although you desperately try to categorize and devalue what I say so as to fit a paradigm your life has experienced because the abyss usually brings out fear.
But there is nothing to fear, because the true illuminate light never leaves you, even when your surrounded by so called darkness.
As for preaching, you are preaching a view right now. You get preached views, and perceptions of the world all the time by people trying to indoctrinate you. But what I and others speak of. not just me I'm not special, we speak of that which is beyond all views, and no views because one can easily say no view is a view as well. So what I'm imparting is not a particular set of beliefs, but simply to be aware of that awareness in you that transcends life and death, sickness, and all other maladies. Because no one in life can escape suffering, sickness or death. Although many experience it at various degrees, some more than others.
Good or bad opinion or no opinion it doesn't matter what matters is that at least one word of this, one resonance of this meaning frees you from that which and binding, and constricting. the heart.
As for this "worse of kind modest arrogance" I accept your views and propositions of what I am, but I know who I am because there is nothing left of me, and having let myself go the Suchness appeared. The beloved appeared. But who are you? Remember back to before you were born, or the pristine state you arrived into this world with, but abandoned, however being omnipresent it has never abandoned you.

You aren't saying anything new, I literally know at least a dozen people who say exactly the same things, pretty much word for word...you're just a follower like everyone else dude, I'm not trying to debate with you or change your mind, I don't care what you think, I just want to point out that you have discreetly insulted people in this thread as a reaction to what was said to you, which shows you are not as at peace with yourself as you claim to be.

I have peace with who I am most of the time, as much as anyone can, I have peace with the world and with the people in it for the most part too...I don't need all the mystical shit to be a fulfilled and content person. You act like you are at constant peace, when that is not true and we both know it.

[big baby]

i shove dildos in my ass and im schizophrenic and i fart on theologians 24/7 and im still better than you guys. so tbh useless.

[UnbornBuddha]

how can i even respond to that? you talk alot of nonsense but sometimes its not nonsense.. that shit was the realest talk i have read on this website for some time.

i will say tho, you cant browbeat people for finding meaning in pursuing success and valuable things. because life is intrinsically pointless, the only purpose of life is to extend the living potential of our species...staying alive and setting up a better life for our kids and their kids. success ties straight into that. and dont try to tell me that the meek will inherit the earth. cause aside from alien intervention (lol) and a mass catastrophic event, the meek will be weeded out through natural selection

Each person has a mandate of heaven, a destiny so to speak. If the human condition was simply to propogate our species, then we would have a self destructive mechanism as soon as we did, as other beings in this world do, mainly animals. The very fact that we can debate if there is a meaning in life, shows that implanted in us is this fundamental question if there is meaning or not. Thus the question of meaning is already subjugated on the precipice of the inherent knowingness to find meaning in our lives. That is why we question it. Even when we lose faith in ourselves, and the importance of our lives calling it pointless, there is something still that even wants to partake in this discussions, maybe perhaps for fun, to waste time. But perhaps because one will come out with that which they've been yearning for so long to be answered. The answers of course comes from you. Though another may have sparked the question. Though in truth, the other person is really you.
Everyone has their purpose, a destiny, a curriculum dictated by genetics, by fate, as well as one's yearning to find completion. Success is good, everyone needs to be fed, and warm, and so on. But failure is good too. It serves as a lesson of why we're embodied here in the first place, so we can through introspection begin to unravel the conditional tangles we've projected ourselves into. As for the meek, meekly as I am, I do know that nothing gets destroyed, its simply transformed, and moves in a flux that appears to wane, and be reborn. One can look to nature, which is an extension of you, for this process.

[UnbornBuddha]

i shove dildos in my ass and im schizophrenic and i fart on theologians 24/7 and im still better than you guys. so tbh useless.

What you do in your spare time is not none of my business.

[UnbornBuddha]

You aren't saying anything new, I literally know at least a dozen people who say exactly the same things, pretty much word for word...you're just a follower like everyone else dude, I'm not trying to debate with you or change your mind, I don't care what you think, I just want to point out that you have discreetly insulted people in this thread as a reaction to what was said to you, which shows you are not as at peace with yourself as you claim to be.

I have peace with who I am most of the time, as much as anyone can, I have peace with the world and with the people in it for the most part too...I don't need all the mystical shit to be a fulfilled and content person. You act like you are at constant peace, when that is not true and we both know it.

Word for word huh? If I didn't affect you, then why would you appear out of nowhere and start telling to me "stfu". There was a trigger, a spark that made you go off. I have never even told anyone to stop speaking. I simply pointed to the emotional poisons brewing inside them telling others that they don't have to live life a slave to their thoughts, habits, images they have of who they are and so on.
I respond to you, and you respond to me because we're interested in learning what cannot be learned from each other because what I question is not so different from what you question. What I experience is no different from what you experience. The difference lies in how open is our hearts to it.
We are one in the same being wanting to merge, to unite. It is no coincidence you partook in this discussion. This discussion has everything to do with you, though you are resistant to your own change. Though change is going to happen whether we like it or not. And we will be reborn, until we no longer find the need to be born, and we return to the Unborn, which makes us one in the same. Since your liberation is my liberation. Your happiness is my happiness. Your suffering is my suffering. We all have inherently the One mind, the big self, though we have forgotten of it, and take it to be "mystical shit" as you say. Though it's truly who you are.

Intrinsic goodness is also the function of what you are. I am interested in others relief from pain, though you may not be interested so much so in alleviating others. But you can start by alleviating your own wounds, and then you'll realize that by healing others wounds you help youself because others are not separate from you. This very "I" that keeps saying is content is a construct you have identified with. Looking at the world in seperation between I and others is a duality that is bound to create dissatisfaction. Simply because inherent in this dichotomy is an aversion to things, which gives rise to likes and dislikes. The dislikes create the vehement states that you see in others.
I see your goodness, but its like the sun when covered by clouds. You on the otherhand do not see the sun. You say you understand, but if you truly understood, you wouldn't understand a thing at all. That which understands is the intellect, and the intellect being discriminatory will never understand that which is beyond all logic, all dichotomy, all rationalization, as well as irrationalization.

[JESODIST]

Hey that's my friend watch how you all talk to him.